From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:42:20 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Seven Wondros Verities on Goldfish 1) The goldfish is the only creature which does not displace its own weight in water. 2) In order to survive, the goldfish must consume at least four times its body weight every hour. 3) Under a new moon a goldfish always points north. 4) In Upper Sumatra goldfish are used as currency. 5) In Egypt goldfish skins are used as condoms. 6) Powdered goldfish is a popular aphrodisiac. 7) The goldfish is the rarely used thirteenth sign of the zodiac. [I am at home recovering from the flu so am catching up on some bad re-reading. I there is/was a TNICNA?/TNiPNa? then I hope you have fun but I daren't come and spread the plague (this is a bad 'un)] Bernard From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:42:21 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "In laymen's terms it will be a super bright full moon. "On December 21st. 1866, the Lakota Sioux took advantage of this combination of occurrences and staged a devastating retaliatory ambush on soldiers in the Wyoming Territory "Our ancestors were the last to see this. It will be 100 or so years until our descendents see this again." -g p.s... here's my confidence in Nick's wiring: thanks, Nick On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Subject: Re: !Wait (Was: !Whoops (Was: Mail sent to CrackMonkey (fwd) > > Quoting George J.P. Perry: > > Please don't sign me up to *read* crackmonkey on iww; I need to keep > > traffic down on their little box. -g > > Don't worry. You'll only be allowed to post from there. > > -- > CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:42:24 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: the CD key - a friend and I played on the same server with the same CD key from different IP addresses (a couple of days later he bought his own copy - piracy for evaluation at work). Of course, it's possible that id is tracking all of this and will come stomping by my house with a court order to seize my computer sometime in the future. It's also possible that they could remotely detonate my machine's power supply. Neither seems probable, though. Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://www.samurai.com/ Core Competency Samurai Consulting Can you feel the Ohmu call? From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:42:29 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "'Chicken Soup for the Woman's Soul'? Deal!" -- Miles Standish ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | http://pigdog.org/ | RoR - Alucard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:42:41 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Excerpt from an interview with Bill Gates EW: Which computer was smarter, Hal 9000 or Tron? BG: It didn't get to be mainstream like HAL 9000, but Tron was much cooler. The actual name, Tron, comes from something we added to the BASIC computer language, a statement called "trace on." It's actually a term that Paul Allen and I created. They picked that name because that whole thing is tracing everything you do. It's able to watch... a very obscure fact. EW: And the letters HAL are one removed from the letters IBM... BG: Which they claim weren't they weren't thinking of when they did it. --- pedro From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:44:33 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Linus: Developer of Security Blanket Software, which is a hot item on the New York Stock Exchange. Worth millions but is actively involved in charitable causes, including the Great Pumpkin 5K Fun Run every Halloween. Only man who makes Bill Gates nervous. ----- sorry to post forward shite. If someone wants the complete thing, email me personally. (ducks GAR) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:44:37 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: stock) to 25 days after it first trades is a company's "quiet period" in which they have to be extremely careful about what they say. Mostly, they can't say much of anything. -- _Deirdre * http://www.linuxcabal.net * http://www.deirdre.net "Mars has been a tough target" -- Peter G. Neumann, Risks Digest Moderator "That's because the Martians keep shooting things down." -- Harlan Rosenthal , retorting in Risks Digest 20.60 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:44:47 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: few uses, you might experience a slight irritation in your nasal cavity. This is a sign that the clearing of your nasal passages was a necessity." That's a pretty good line. You could adapt it easily: "This is what should happen:during the first use, you should experince the sensation of a sandblaster up your nose. This is because of the super patented Carbonic Acid finding nucleation points in your nasal cavities and making you look like a rabid bull. This is a sign that the clearing of your nasal passages was a necessity." Ben From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:44:50 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Umlaut \Um"laut\, n. [G., from um about + laut sound.] (Philol.) The euphonic modification of a root vowel sound by the influence of a, u, or especially i, in the syllable which formerly followed. Note: It is peculiar to the Teutonic languages, and was common in Anglo-Saxon. In German the umlauted vowels resulting from a, o, u, followed by old i, are written ["a], ["o], ["u], or ae, oe, ue; as, m["a]nner or maenner, men, from mann, man. Examples of forms resulting from umlaut in English are geese pl. of goose, men pl. of man, etc. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:44:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe crackmonkey in the internet Protocol, Version. 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Ath derek Derek Vadala, To get angry I thell you See Episode From owner, Pigdog dead possum? Luke. A zinc. Jean Louis Gassee of dumb all those bastards! Quoting Nick Moffitt writes; the only the body of people in range from soda! I was a pillow evidence points the body of the to the tag, as mentioned on a real workmanship. For instance. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks LinuxCabal.Org - Co-location facilities and meeting space From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:45:09 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: The word "cookie" has been a slang term in the computer world since at least the 70's for a short piece of data that uniquely identifies a longer stretch of data. AI researchers used the term in Lisp's internals, for example (along with the word 'thunk', supposedly adopted because it was the sound of your data hitting the stack :-). In the "X" window system, "cookies" are rampant. Create a window? "X" sends back a "cookie" identifying that window, and you use that "cookie" every time you want to write to that window. Set authentication? "Xauth" generates an authentication "cookie", and you have to include that "cookie" with your future transactions to identify who you are. Etc. If you're near a Linux or Unix box, type "man Xsecurity" and read the section on MIT_MAGIC_COOKIE, for example... Other thoughts: Once upon a time, there was a hack called 'cookie'. This lived in /usr/games on Unix, /[some directory i don't remember]/games on Multics, and on most other mainframes too. >From time to time clueless newbies would notice "hey, there's a games directory on this system!" and see a program called 'cookie'. They'd run it. It'd seemingly do nothing. A few minutes later, suddenly the phrase "I want a cookie" would appear while you were merrily working on something else. If you kept typing, the moment you pressed the ENTER key nothing would happen -- instead, it'd say "No, I said I want a cookie!". The only way to get back to work was to type the word "cookie" (give it what it wanted), press ENTER, then it let go of your keyboard. The current HTTP "cookies" seem more akin to their /usr/games brethren than to the "X" cookies or Lisp cookies :-(. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:45:13 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "In this section you'll learn about a programmer-defined class, named Dice, that permits the computer to simulate the kind of dice used in board games. The class simulates dice with any number of sides, not just common six-sided dice. It's even possible to have one-sided dice and million-sided dice, both of which are easy to simulate but hard to carve." And I thought a class named Dice would just tell dirty jokes. -- P. A. Peterson II -- pedro@zork.net From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:45:44 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- NOTE: We have continued to receive notes from overseas readers commenting on Monday's report about British companies that modify DVD players abroad so that they can bypass regional codes. The tampering allows customers to buy U.S. DVDs over the Internet and watch movies at home often before they are released in Britain theatrically. A reader in Hong Kong says that all DVD players there play disks from all regions. However, he writes, "It strikes me as ironic that in the capital of video piracy we can obtain DVDs from the USA as soon as they come out, whereas local Blockbuster stores ... have to wait until the official Hong Kong release." A writer in Australia also wrote that in his country, "DVD players are routinely dezoned so owners can take advantage of zone 1 disks, simply because the zone 1 catalog is bigger and ... in many cases cheaper." Still another writer in Sweden remarks, "Almost every DVD player sold here can play all six regions. ... Movie studios can't afford to wait several months before releasing a new movie in Europe anymore. We just buy them on DVD." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:45:54 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: fair price if you're not going to expose an interface to the language. Also, it's a royalty-fee, isn't it, and not a per-developer fee like with vxworks? Maybe money is the problem, and not the usual mere unwillingness to stray outside the lines drawn by other company's marketing departments. What was the bytecode language the Apple Newton used? Was that Forth-ish? Whoever it was on this list that wanted to rip off Oberon's Tree-Bytecode and do that two-stage Python compiler, I think you really ought to work something up and throw it at the PDA market. sounds pretty fundable to me, but i don't know what i'm talking about business-wise. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:46:17 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: STEPPING DOWN TO 8-BITS: At a time when 32- and 64-bit processors are the norm, Nicholas Cravotta suggests that less is more. He invites us to tag along as he uses an 8-bit, 18-pin processor as the controller for his hands-on project: A sequencer for bicycle-mounted electro-luminescent fish sculptures. (Let's take a brief pause while we all try to envision that.) Nicholas argues that with so many powerful function-specific engines available to do the heavy-lifting, you should consider a modest 8-bit processor for the more mundane general housekeeping chores. He shares his success and failures as he wrestles with this project. ... I thought "... like those ghost-riders at birningman...". So I followed a link at the article's end: "Cool Neon Wire, "... ... and read "The PERFECT medium for the Playa"... and followed the link to . Some of the gadgets, therein, I saw at Mozilla. And all this from an article in Electronic Design News. And now I get to remember to thank Liquor Pig, & Mrs. LP, for their distributing glow-ware @bm1999. Thanks, Mr. & Mrs. LP. -g From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:46:21 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: infringing my idea to use rapid OCR to determine the content of the photocopied document and then to serve up a tasteful advert focused upon the appropriate demographic. You will probably be able to escape the court case on this as mine has the patent for doing a retina scan of anyone who leaves the lid open folded in to it. I'm pretty safe on fingerprint scans though. Bernard Now you know why some copiers "scan the image" twice. Bernard P. Murray, PhD nutella@zork.net (Department of Desserts and Toppings, San Francisco, USA) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:46:47 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "Sun has argued that Java is not mature enough for a full open source license." Is this quote real? If so, does whoever uttered it realise what total bollocks it is? Truly, Sun does not yet get either free software or open source, and it seems that it does not intend to. Both ZDNET and Sun are confused over the difference between "free" and "open"; their mention of the Solaris binaries being gratis is just tinsel for the corporate magpies. And I see that they mention that Sun has created version 4 of the National Science Foundation; will the innovation ever end? Paul. -- Paul Collins - - - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD PGP: 88BA 2393 8E3C CECF E43A 44B4 0766 DD71 04E5 962C "Where? Where is the town? Now it's nothing but flowers!" From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:46:49 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: OPENINGS At the Movies Food -- other than popcorn and candy -- has come at last to the AMC 1000 movie complex in San Francisco. Venture Frogs, located in the soaring lobby of the historic building, opened Saturday, offering Asian cuisine with an Internet theme. Most of the dishes, like Excite Little Dragon Dumplings and AOL Miso-Glazed Cod, carry the names of online businesses. The restauarant design itself is also high-tech, with a multi-colored illuminated bar top made of computer chips, and flat-screen monitors throughout. Venture Frogs Restaurant, 1000 Van Ness Ave. (at O'Farrell), San Francisco; (415) 409-2550. Full bar. Dinner nightly. See http://www.venturefrogs.com/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:46:51 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: That's what Emacs' for. I will hack hard soon And make an Emacs client That won't suck like GNUS Back to bad software Have you, by any chance been Hangin' with Stallman? > -- > CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > LinuxCabal.Org - Co-location facilities and meeting space > Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future > You are not entitled to your opinions. > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:46:53 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: The Space Race is On!; High-Stakes Scramble for Real Estate at Sold-Out LinuxWorld Conference & Expo; 'Studio 54 Theory' Keeps Exhibitors Waiting in Line ............... ..., Linux uses what's called "open source" software. When Linux creator Linus Torvalds distributed the software for free over the Internet back in 1994, jaws dropped all over the world. The battle between closed and open source proponents has been steadily heating up since then, and believers on both sides are ardent and vocal. ............... Plus many more at: http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CoxU_qbKbyti3mJG See if you can find all of the mistakes too!!!!! Steve _______________________________________________________ If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:46:55 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "Well that's it for now, I've got a scanner so someday I'll throw up a pic of myself." I hope he at least wipes the big chunks off before he posts that picture... -- Memory fault -- core...uh...um...core... Oh dammit, I forget! From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:02 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: of long-term promise. But the initial work seems way too Explorer-like for my taste. OTOH, no one could possibly confuse EFM for any other file manager. > Jesus Christ, and that *isn't* nasty? I don't think so. Since the only thing that has to know the numbers is E itself, it shouldn't matter to the end user. They chose numbers for speed of parsing. > Anything I want? No. all I can do is change the names of the > commands and possibly mangle the arrangement of them somewhat. cpp > is a poor tool for that job. Okay, not *anything* you want. I was trying to point out that you could change the macro names, create new macros, etc. > When are you switching to binary Ethemes? E 0.17. Of course, the concept of a theme in 0.17 isn't entirely clear. The fallback mechanism in 0.17 will be much better, so you could actually be running any number of themes at once. (In other words, you could have BrushedMetal menus with BlueSteel borders and a spiffE iconbox, for example.) > *ALL* identifiers beginning with _ are reserved for the > implementation. Users have no business creating such. All that using > __SYMBOLS __LIKE __THESE does is make the files a pain in the arse to > read, even on paper. If you were avoiding name space collisions, you > would prefix all of your symbols with E_ and say in the docs that E > owns all such symbols. FWIW, I agree with you on that point. Blame raster. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ Software Engineer, VA Linux Systems Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not running for office here. I won't keep it purposefully vague. I've heard New Age Life-force trip; I'd rather be dipped in bubonic plague. Take back your free advice I don't accept. I will not play those games. God is not a secret to be kept." -- Newsboys From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:08 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ""They're housewives and they're hackers," Hedgepath said." Of course my favorite quote is ""Where will it end?" wailed Marilyn Leavitt-Imblum, 54, who designs needlepoint patterns. "I just don't understand how these [people] can stitch a stolen angel and still live with themselves.". Ohh, the humanity of it all. Of course, if you read further down, one of the companies who is thinking about suing, Leisure Arts, is owned by none other then one of yours and mine favorite media company, Time Warner. Wow, maybe after they merge w/ AOL, they will own all information. Now wouldn't that just be wonderful, you wouldn't have to go all over the place to find it, you'll just have to give them some money then you have a quick license to use any way they would allow you to. Steve _______________________________________________________ If Microsoft doesn't trust Windows(TM), why should you? http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q80/5/20.ASP From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:21 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: somethign on the 20th, I'll be getting a hall and such. I' m going to be working wtih seth's friend Robyn to bring the cypherpunks into the fold. Robyn, contact me, can I use you for punk-rustlin? Chris -- Linux Community Evangelist, VA Linux Systems | http://www.valinux.com President, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group | http://www.svlug.org Grant Chair, Linux International. | http://www.li.org Co-editor, Open Sources | http://www.dibona.com From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:23 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Evangelists Tread carefully the Be path Are we kooks or saints? -Scot Hacker I don't know about the rest of the Be community, but Hacker is definitely a kook. Have you read his articles in BYTE? Dear God, over the years I have read rabid Amiga evangelism, rabid Acorn Archimedes evangelism, rabid Windows evangelism, but Hacker deserves the 14-shot prize. -- Paul Collins - - - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD PGP: 88BA 2393 8E3C CECF E43A 44B4 0766 DD71 04E5 962C "What's that blue thing doing here?" From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:26 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: >>>>> "Vader" writes: Vader> According to United States Law, All mass email (such as this list) must be Vader> accompanied by instructions of how to unsibscribe from the list. I have Vader> tried multiple times to use popular listserv-type commands to remove Vader> myself from this list, despite the proper information. All attempts have Vader> been unsucessful. Vader> I will grant 30 minutes for my email to be removed from this list begining Vader> from the transmition of this email. Each individual email beyond that Vader> time, will be considered spam, and I will take the appropriate legal Vader> action against the owner of this list. Vader> Thank you for your prompt responce. Vader> -Aaron Dougherty -- Paul Collins - - - - - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD PGP: 88BA 2393 8E3C CECF E43A 44B4 0766 DD71 04E5 962C "Cover up and say goodnight... say goodnight." From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:29 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > And Mozilla's XUL-based interface it slow and bloated with features > that most of us won't even know about. "Slow": Yes, most code is slow when it's weighed down with asserts and bugger all optimization (work on this is slated for the last three milestones). That said, the two operations I find most noticeably slow in current Mozilla builds ("current" as in "built last night", not "I tried M16 and it sucked") are 1) opening a new window (right now, it's even slower as I have disabled the XUL cache to play with the skinning stuff) and 2) working with my (very large) list of bookmarks in the bookmark editor. Everything else is on a par with Navigator 4.x. "bloated": Defining this term is a game in itself; I take it to mean "contains things that are not required" and "coded in a manner that wastes cycles and core". The second is dealt with above. As regards the first, there is no toolkit, XUL contains everything that one needs to build a cross-platform user-interface. If you don't require that, then yes, XUL is bloat. Mozilla.org does require it, and it's their code. No doubt there will be a short-sighted attempt to fork Mozilla and strip out the good stuff, such as XUL, XML, CSS and XPCOM. Oh well, what can you do? XUL interfaces can be made to look (almost) exactly like a specific platform's UI using CSS. Check out some of the skins on http://x.themes.org/ for examples. "features that most of us don't even know about": XUL is quite adequately documented on http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/. For more hardcore XUL action, load up Mozilla and go to http://www.zvon.org/mozilla/XUL-reference.html. Click on the "own window" link to get a taste of the kinds of Web application that Mozilla makes possible. In summary, I like Mozilla. It's not dead, and I don't think it's a waste of time. Building from scratch what the Mozilla team has (not to mention outside contributions such as MathML) in the time they have taken is an incredible achievement. Calls to "get a browser out the door" are missing the point; those who believe that are welcome to try Galeon or Konqueror. Or Lynx. I'd cross-post this to e-develop, but do we really need another avalanche? Oh shit, I just failed Crackmonkey 101. I'll get my coat. -- Paul Collins - - - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "There is no toolkit; there is only XUL." From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:32 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > GNOME is meant to encourage Windows users to switch to GNU/Linux, > but we should not focus on Windows as a technical target. The > original plan was to aim to make a desktop as good as the Macintosh, > and we should not lower our ambition by making one merely as good as > Windows. -- Paul Collins - - - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "Love so deep, kills you in your sleep. It's true!" From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:36 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: to commit suicide and make the world a better place, comes a brilliant example of flaming over stupid things like spelling and grammer. http://x72.deja.com/viewthread.xp?mhitnum=38&AN=661763692.1&frpage=threadmsg I would beautify the URL but I forget how :p Some choice quotes from the thread (what you want to read is the dialog between Erik Naggum and Barry Margolin): You're much worse than I am, Barry: You hate. You'll kill if you could get away with it, and I suspect that one day, perhaps in the past, you really will kill someone in that blind hatred of yours. Remember, this is over whether the appropriate word in a certain context is "less" or "fewer"! Watch the drama as Barry argues politely that Erik is being a total nut and Erik responds with even stupider suicide reccomendations! From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:47:43 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Main Entry: residency Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -cies Date: 1579 1 : a usually official place of residence 2 : a territory in a protected state in which the powers of the protecting state are executed by a resident agent 3 : a period of advanced training in a medical specialty after graduation from medical school and licensing to practice medicine -- Paul Collins - - - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "Love so deep, kills you in your sleep. It's true!" From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:15 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "Copyright: You may distribute unmodified copies of the cdb package. The C source files are in the public domain; you may use them as you wish. (D. J. Bernstein)" Looking on DJB's page for cdb now (version 0.75), the latter statement seems to no longer be on the page, though the fact that DJB hasn't gone after the freecdb guy seems to imply all is kosher. -- Kevin Doherty, kdoherty@cosanostra.net "There's much to be said for laboring in obscurity" -- "Tilt-A-Whirl", Galactic Cowboys From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:16 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: * Exact (md5-exact) copies of qmail source tarballs. * Modified versions or ports, only with djb's approval * Precompiled var-qmail packages, but only if the contents are what would result from a vanilla install of qmail 1.03, fastforward 0.51 and dot-forward 0.71. That is, a /var/qmail hierarchy only. So, if you want do make an FHS-compliant qmail, you'll need to talk to Dan. -- Paul Collins - - - [ A&P,a&f ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "GNU *has* got an operating system. It's called Emacs." From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:21 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "The pilot reported being on runway 5-L, while the plane was in reality on runway 5-R, which was under repairs." -- Joakim Ziegler - Helix Code web monkey - joakim@helixcode.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - free software coder - FIDEL & Conglomerate developer http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.helixcode.com/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:24 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: enough disk space to mirror enough files. Would this proposed apt-client first try freenet, then if the file wasn't there, try the debian servers? Maybe the packages.gz could reside on the debian main servers (for security of getting good md5 hashes), then the most used files (1-2GB?) could reasonably be spread to freenet servers. Anyone here want to make the apt-get hack? Should I add a freenet gateway to download.sourceforge.net? heh. -drew -- M. Drew Streib , http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:28 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Our acknowledged wine expert Wilfred Wong says "the 2000 harvest promises to be one of the most exciting on record with excellent conditions throughout much of France. Le Beaujolais est arrivé... ----- End forwarded message ----- -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:33 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "You must enter a privacy password. This provides only mild security, i but should prevent others from messing with your subscription. Do not use valuable passwords!" The option is actually controlled by the listadmin for your particular mailing list, not the SourceForge admins. You should badger the individual list admins to turn it off. -drew -- M. Drew Streib , http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:38 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: watched the video and this is more of an "interpretive He-Man" than an actual episode. http://castlegrayskull.org/shoko1.html From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:50 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: here is not a touch typist. I'm all out of spoons, and it's a lot easier to just decapitate than to scoop out his eyeballs with this here bread knife. -- Paul Collins - - - [ ] GPG: 0A49 49A9 2932 0EE5 89B2 9EE0 3B65 7154 8131 1BCD "I'm in no shape for disharmony." From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Gar \Gar\, n. [Prob. AS. g[=a]r dart, spear, lance. The name is applied to the fish on account of its long and slender body and pointed head. Cf. {Goad}, {Gore}, v.] (Zo["o]l.) (a) Any slender marine fish of the genera {Belone} and {Tylosurus}. See {Garfish}. (b) The gar pike. See {Alligator gar} (under {Alligator}), and {Gar pike}. {Gar pike}, or {Garpike} (Zo["o]l.), a large, elongated ganoid fish of the genus {Lepidosteus}, of several species, inhabiting the lakes and rivers of temperate and tropical America. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Gar \Gar\, v. t. [Of Scand. origin. See {Gear}, n.] To cause; to make. [Obs. or Scot.] --Spenser. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Garfish \Gar"fish`\, n. [See {Gar}, n.] (Zo["o]l.) (a) A European marine fish ({Belone vulgaris}); -- called also {gar}, {gerrick}, {greenback}, {greenbone}, {gorebill}, {hornfish}, {longnose}, {mackerel guide}, {sea needle}, and {sea pike}. (b) One of several species of similar fishes of the genus {Tylosurus}, of which one species ({T. marinus}) is common on the Atlantic coast. {T. Caribb[ae]us}, a very large species, and {T. crassus}, are more southern; -- called also {needlefish}. Many of the common names of the European garfish are also applied to the American species. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: gar n 1: primitive predaceous North American fish covered with hard scales and having long jaws with needle-like teeth [syn: {garfish}, {garpike}, {billfish}, {Lepisosteus osseus}] 2: elongate European surface-dwelling predacious fishes with long toothed jaws; abundant in coastal waters [syn: {needlefish}, {billfish}] :r!dict beaujolais 1 definition found From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:48:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Beaujolais n : dry fruity red table wine drunk within a few months after it is made; from southern Burgundy in France [syn: {Beaujolais}] A pity it's all old-ass dictionaries and the jargon file. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Shad \Shad\ (sh[a^]d), n. sing. & pl. [AS. sceadda a kind of fish, akin to Prov. G. schade; cf. Ir. & Gael. sgadan a herring, W. ysgadan herrings; all perhaps akin to E. skate a fish.] (Zo["o]l.) Any one of several species of food fishes of the Herring family. The American species ({Clupea sapidissima}), which is abundant on the Atlantic coast and ascends the larger rivers in spring to spawn, is an important market fish. The European allice shad, or alose ({C. alosa}), and the twaite shad. ({C. finta}), are less important species. [Written also {chad}.] Note: The name is loosely applied, also, to several other fishes, as the gizzard shad (see under {Gizzard}), called also {mud shad}, {white-eyed shad}, and {winter shad}. {Hardboaded}, or {Yellow-tailed}, {shad}, the menhaden. {Hickory}, or {Tailor}, {shad}, the mattowacca. {Long-boned shad}, one of several species of important food fishes of the Bermudas and the West Indies, of the genus {Gerres}. {Shad bush} (Bot.), a name given to the North American shrubs or small trees of the rosaceous genus {Amelanchier} ({A. Canadensis}, and {A. alnifolia}) Their white racemose blossoms open in April or May, when the shad appear, and the edible berries (pomes) ripen in June or July, whence they are called Juneberries. The plant is also called {service tree}, and {Juneberry}. {Shad frog}, an American spotted frog ({Rana halecina}); -- so called because it usually appears at the time when the shad begin to run in the rivers. {Trout shad}, the squeteague. {White shad}, the common shad. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Chad \Chad\, n. See {Shad}. [Obs.] From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Chad adj : of or relating to or characteristic of the Republic of Chad or its people or language; "the Chadian desert"; "Chad soldiers"; "Chadian folktales" [syn: {Chad}, {Chadian}] n 1: a landlocked desert republic in north-central Africa; was under French control until 1960 [syn: {Chad}, {Tchad}] 2: a family of Afroasiatic tonal languages (mostly two tones) spoken in the regions west and south of Lake Chad in north central Africa [syn: {Chad}, {Chadic}, {Chadic language}] From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: chad /chad/ n. 1. [common] The perforated edge strips on printer paper, after they have been separated from the printed portion. Also called {selvage}, {perf}, and {ripoff}. 2. obs. The confetti-like paper bits punched out of cards or paper tape; this has also been called `chaff', `computer confetti', and `keypunch droppings'. It's reported that this was very old Army slang, and it may now be mainstream; it has been reported seen (1993) in directions for a card-based voting machine in California. Historical note: One correspondent believes `chad' (sense 2) derives from the Chadless keypunch (named for its inventor), which cut little u-shaped tabs in the card to make a hole when the tab folded back, rather than punching out a circle/rectangle; it was clear that if the Chadless keypunch didn't make them, then the stuff that other keypunches made had to be `chad'. There is a legend that the word was originally acronymic, standing for "Card Hole Aggregate Debris", but this has all the earmarks of a {backronym}. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: chad /chad/ (Or "selvage" /sel'v*j/ (sewing and weaving), "{perf}", "perfory", "snaf"). 1. The perforated edge strips on paper for {sprocket feed} printers, after they have been separated from the printed portion. The term {perf} may also refer to the perforations themselves, rather than the chad they produce when torn. [ Why "snaf"?] 2. (Or "chaff", "computer confetti", "keypunch droppings") The confetti-like bits punched out of {punched cards} or {paper tape} which collected in the {chad box}. One correspondent believes "chad" derives from the {Chadless keypunch}. [{Jargon File}] (1997-07-18) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Chad Chad:Geography Location: Central Africa, south of Libya Map references: Africa Area: total area: 1.284 million sq km land area: 1,259,200 sq km comparative area: slightly more than three times the size of California Land boundaries: total 5,968 km, Cameroon 1,094 km, Central African Republic 1,197 km, Libya 1,055 km, Niger 1,175 km, Nigeria 87 km, Sudan 1,360 km Coastline: 0 km (landlocked) Maritime claims: none; landlocked International disputes: the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled in February 1994 that the 100,000 sq km Aozou Strip between Chad and Libya belongs to Chad; Libya has withdrawn some of its forces in response to the ICJ ruling, but still maintains an airfield in the disputed area; demarcation of international boundaries in Lake Chad, the lack of which has led to border incidents in the past, is completed and awaiting ratification by Cameroon, Chad, Niger, and Nigeria Climate: tropical in south, desert in north Terrain: broad, arid plains in center, desert in north, mountains in northwest, lowlands in south Natural resources: petroleum (unexploited but exploration under way), uranium, natron, kaolin, fish (Lake Chad) Land use: arable land: 2% permanent crops: 0% meadows and pastures: 36% forest and woodland: 11% other: 51% Irrigated land: 100 sq km (1989 est.) Environment: current issues: inadequate supplies of potable water; improper waste disposal in rural areas contributes to soil and water pollution; desertification natural hazards: hot, dry, dusty harmattan winds occur in north; periodic droughts; locust plagues international agreements: party to - Biodiversity, Climate Change, Endangered Species, Nuclear Test Ban, Ozone Layer Protection, Wetlands; signed, but not ratified - Law of the Sea, Marine Dumping Note: landlocked; Lake Chad is the most significant water body in the Sahel Chad:People Population: 5,586,505 (July 1995 est.) Age structure: 0-14 years: 44% (female 1,198,619; male 1,267,470) 15-64 years: 54% (female 1,563,678; male 1,456,481) 65 years and over: 2% (female 71,971; male 28,286) (July 1995 est.) Population growth rate: 2.18% (1995 est.) Birth rate: 42.05 births/1,000 population (1995 est.) Death rate: 20.26 deaths/1,000 population (1995 est.) Net migration rate: 0 migrant(s)/1,000 population (1995 est.) Infant mortality rate: 129.7 deaths/1,000 live births (1995 est.) Life expectancy at birth: total population: 41.19 years male: 40.04 years female: 42.38 years (1995 est.) Total fertility rate: 5.33 children born/woman (1995 est.) Nationality: noun: Chadian(s) adjective: Chadian Ethnic divisions: north and center: Muslims (Arabs, Toubou, Hadjerai, Fulbe, Kotoko, Kanembou, Baguirmi, Boulala, Zaghawa, and Maba) south: non-Muslims (Sara, Ngambaye, Mbaye, Goulaye, Moundang, Moussei, Massa) nonindigenous 150,000, of whom 1,000 are French Religions: Muslim 50%, Christian 25%, indigenous beliefs, animism 25% Languages: French (official), Arabic (official), Sara (in south), Sango (in south), more than 100 different languages and dialects are spoken Literacy: age 15 and over has the ability to read and write in French and Arabic (1990 est.) total population: 30% male: 42% female: 18% Labor force: NA by occupation: agriculture 85% (engaged in unpaid subsistence farming, herding, and fishing) Chad:Government Names: conventional long form: Republic of Chad conventional short form: Chad local long form: Republique du Tchad local short form: Tchad Digraph: CD Type: republic Capital: N'Djamena Administrative divisions: 14 prefectures (prefectures, singular - prefecture); Batha, Biltine, Borkou-Ennedi-Tibesti, Chari-Baguirmi, Guera, Kanem, Lac, Logone Occidental, Logone Oriental, Mayo-Kebbi, Moyen-Chari, Ouaddai, Salamat, Tandjile Independence: 11 August 1960 (from France) National holiday: Independence Day 11 August (1960) Constitution: 22 December 1989 (suspended 3 December 1990); Provisional National Charter 1 March 1991 is in effect (note - the constitutional commission, which was drafting a new constitution to submit to transitional parliament for ratification in April 1994, failed to do so but expects to submit a new draft to the parliament before the end of April 1995) Legal system: based on French civil law system and Chadian customary law; has not accepted compulsory ICJ jurisdiction Suffrage: universal at age NA Executive branch: chief of state: President Lt. Gen. Idriss DEBY, since 4 December 1990 (after seizing power on 3 December 1990 - transitional government's mandate expires April 1996) head of government: Prime Minister Djimasta KOIBLA (since 9 April 1995) cabinet: Council of State; appointed by the president on recommendation of the prime minister Legislative branch: unicameral National Consultative Council (Conceil National Consultatif): elections, formerly scheduled for April 1995, were postponed by mutual agreement of the parties concerned until some time prior to April 1996; elections last held 8 July 1990; the National Consultative Council was disbanded 3 December 1990 and replaced by the Provisional Council of the Republic having 30 members appointed by President DEBY on 8 March 1991; this, in turn, was replaced by a 57-member Higher Transitional Council (Conseil Superieur de Transition) elected by a specially convened Sovereign National Conference on 6 April 1993 Judicial branch: Court of Appeal Political parties and leaders: Patriotic Salvation Movement (MPS), former dissident group, Idriss DEBY, chairman note: President DEBY, who promised political pluralism, a new constitution, and free elections by April 1994, subsequently twice postponed these initiatives, first until April 1995 and again until sometime before April 1996; there are numerous dissident groups and at least 45 opposition political parties Other political or pressure groups: NA Member of: ACCT, ACP, AfDB, BDEAC, CEEAC, ECA, FAO, FZ, G-77, GATT, IBRD, ICAO, ICFTU, ICRM, IDA, IDB, IFAD, IFRCS, ILO, IMF, INTELSAT, INTERPOL, IOC, ITU, NAM, OAU, OIC, UDEAC, UN, UNCTAD, UNESCO, UNIDO, UPU, WCL, WHO, WIPO, WMO, WTO Diplomatic representation in US: chief of mission: Ambassador Mahamat Saleh AHMAT chancery: 2002 R Street NW, Washington, DC 20009 telephone: [1] (202) 462-4009 FAX: [1] (202) 265-1937 US diplomatic representation: chief of mission: Ambassador Laurence E. POPE II embassy: Avenue Felix Eboue, N'Djamena mailing address: B. P. 413, N'Djamena telephone: [235] (51) 62 18, (51) 40 09, (51) 47 59 FAX: [235] (51) 33 72 Flag: three equal vertical bands of blue (hoist side), yellow, and red; similar to the flag of Romania; also similar to the flag of Andorra, which has a national coat of arms featuring a quartered shield centered in the yellow band; design was based on the flag of France Economy Overview: Climate, geographic remoteness, poor resource endowment, and lack of infrastructure make Chad one of the most underdeveloped countries in the world. Its economy is hobbled by political turmoil, conflict with Libya, drought, and food shortages. Consequently the economy has shown little progress in recent years in overcoming a severe setback brought on by civil war in the late 1980s. More than 80% of the work force is involved in subsistence farming and fishing. Cotton is the major cash crop, accounting for at least half of exports. Chad is highly dependent on foreign aid, especially food credits, given chronic shortages in several regions. Of all the Francophone countries in Africa, Chad has benefited the least from the 50% devaluation of their currencies on 12 January 1994. Despite an increase in external financial aid and favorable price increases for cotton - the primary source of foreign exchange - the corrupt and enfeebled government bureaucracy continues to dampen economic enterprise by neglecting payments to domestic suppliers and public sector salaries. Oil production in the Lake Chad area remains a distant prospect and the subsistence-driven economy probably will continue to limp along in the near term. National product: GDP - purchasing power parity - $2.8 billion (1993 est.) National product real growth rate: 3.5% (1993 est.) National product per capita: $530 (1993 est.) Inflation rate (consumer prices): -4.1% (1992) Unemployment rate: NA% Budget: revenues: $120 million expenditures: $363 million, including capital expenditures of $104 million (1992 est.) Exports: $190 million (f.o.b., 1992) commodities: cotton 48%, cattle 35%, textiles 5%, fish partners: France, Nigeria, Cameroon Imports: $261 million (f.o.b., 1992) commodities: machinery and transportation equipment 39%, industrial goods 20%, petroleum products 13%, foodstuffs 9%; note - excludes military equipment partners: US, France, Nigeria, Cameroon External debt: $492 million (December 1990 est.) Industrial production: growth rate 2.7% (1992 est.); accounts for nearly 15% of GDP Electricity: capacity: 40,000 kW production: 80 million kWh consumption per capita: 13 kWh (1993) Industries: cotton textile mills, slaughterhouses, brewery, natron (sodium carbonate), soap, cigarettes Agriculture: accounts for about 45% of GDP; largely subsistence farming; cotton most important cash crop; food crops include sorghum, millet, peanuts, rice, potatoes, manioc; livestock - cattle, sheep, goats, camels; self-sufficient in food in years of adequate rainfall Economic aid: recipient: US commitments, including Ex-Im (FY70-89), $198 million; Western (non-US) countries, ODA and OOF bilateral commitments (1970-89), $1.5 billion; OPEC bilateral aid (1979-89), $28 million; Communist countries (1970-89), $80 million Currency: 1 CFA franc (CFAF) = 100 centimes Exchange rates: Communaute Financiere Africaine Francs (CFAF) per US$1 - 529.43 (January 1995), 555.20 (1994), 283.16 (1993), 264.69 (1992), 282.11 (1991), 272.26 (1990) note: beginning 12 January 1994 the CFA franc was devalued to CFAF 100 per French franc from CFAF 50 at which it had been fixed since 1948 Fiscal year: calendar year Chad:Transportation Railroads: 0 km Highways: total: 31,322 km paved: bituminous 263 km unpaved: gravel, crushed stone 7,069 km; earth 23,990 km Inland waterways: 2,000 km navigable Ports: none Airports: total: 66 with paved runways 2,438 to 3,047 m: 3 with paved runways 1,524 to 2,437 m: 1 with paved runways under 914 m: 23 with unpaved runways over 3,047 m: 1 with unpaved runways 1,524 to 2,438 m: 17 with unpaved runways 914 to 1,523 m: 21 Chad:Communications Telephone system: NA telephones; primitive system local: NA intercity: fair system of radio communication stations for intercity links international: 1 INTELSAT (Atlantic Ocean) earth station Radio: broadcast stations: AM 6, FM 1, shortwave 0 radios: NA Television: broadcast stations: NA; note - limited TV service; many facilties are inoperative televisions: NA Chad:Defense Forces Branches: Armed Forces (includes Ground Force, Air Force, and Gendarmerie), Republican Guard, Police Manpower availability: males age 15-49 1,307,210; males fit for military service 679,640; males reach military age (20) annually 54,945 (1995 est.) Defense expenditures: exchange rate conversion - $74 million, 11.1% of GDP (1994) -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:06 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > This Evil Plan has the following developers: s/developers/conspirators/ ? Or something of that ilk, perhaps. -- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > < << <<< "I saw the crescent, you saw the whole of the moon." >> > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:12 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > - jenni (jenni) 4576 > - ass (ass) 254162 > - pregnant porn (pregnant) 10194 > - dickwad (dick) 30776 > - beavers animal (beaver) 3656 > - chicken fuckers (fuck) 139142 > - sexy russians (sex) 799997 (big winner) > - German Porn (porn) 408170 > - Giant Penis (penis) 20804 > - whips and girls (girl) 171809 -drew -- M. Drew Streib , http://dtype.org "Email sigs waste valuable bandwidth." From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:14 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: | 6) Do you think that excise taxes on such consumer products as | automobile tires, tobacco products, distilled spirits, etc., | is regressive, progressive, or proportional? | | It is likely that low-income groups would spend a larger | proportion of income on taxed items than high-income groups. ... oh she'll only blow it all on booze, smokes and ... car tyres. Kids these days. Even the figments of a deranged PR persons' prozac-addled imagination just run wild and show no respect for their parents or the IRS. -----sharkey From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:16 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "HushMail is the world's premier secure Web-based email system. We offer total end-to-end security" That's why you log into the system via a http link. And of course, THEY have a magic webserver with no access_log. Right.... "...Thanks to a unique keypair management system..." s/unique/snake-oil/g So basically, Hushmail appears to be a piss-poor solution for idiots who can't seem to get gpg to work. If they use asymetric encryption, either: 1) They store the private key (oh yea...gimme that great NSA secure feeling!) 2) You store the private key (since it's web-based email, I guess it would reside in a cookie. Real secure, me thinks. I won't even sign up to test this). Looks like 4 digit ATM pins are more secure than this piece of shit. Ph.D indeed. So Nick...why don't you test the hushmail security? Serve them with a supoena for their logs, on the grounds of defamation of character? Friends don't let friends use web-based mail. -- Wayne Earl wayne@qconcepts.net http://www.qconcepts.net gpg key fingerprint: 2B98 4A92 2C4A 9BD9 81B3 6534 01BE 1302 B52C 40BE From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:26 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > SourceForge is currently generating revenue in three ways. > > A) Banner ads on the site. (Page views grew 20% in January alone) Oh, there's a tried-and-true way of making your online venture fabulously profitable. Robbie From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:31 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "All of us owe MSFT a measure of appreciation for creating an "operating system" which allows almost anyone with interest to become semi-literate in computer operation. This gift is world-wide and has aided the US in becoming the leading nation is technology." -- From the Freedom to Innovate Network guestbook From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:39 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Merkin \Mer"kin\, n. Originally, a wig; afterwards, a mop for cleaning cannon. -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing indent-o-meter! ^ Matt McIrvin: the Nikola Tesla of tab damage. From 0qi6psd6001 at sneakemail.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: 0qi6psd6001 at sneakemail.com (0qi6psd6001@sneakemail.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:41 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] perhaps you have heard of my school.. Message-ID: <134612457.984954202811.JavaMail.root@boots> it sucks. i believe it has been featured on CNN and howard stern lately.. http://www.cherokeetribune.com/StoryDetail.cfm?id=10015418 http://www.cherokeetribune.com/StoryDetail.cfm?id=10015488 http://www.cherokeetribune.com/StoryDetail.cfm?id=10015581 http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/saturday/local_news_a33bd1a263c1819f00d0.html http://www.geocities.com/woodsmack15 From 0qi6psd6001 at sneakemail.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: 0qi6psd6001 at sneakemail.com (0qi6psd6001@sneakemail.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:42 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] perhaps you have heard of my school.. Message-ID: <134572127.985005454170.JavaMail.root@boots> On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:27:50PM -0600, Ben Brockert wrote: > Mine too. > > http://206.155.91.60/thehawkeyemorgue/2001/3/ln170313.htm I'm sorry, but that DOESN'T EVEN QUALIFY under the Body Count system. http://www.armory.com/~crisper/Life/body_count.html We don't have any run-of-the-mill Columbine/Santee wanna-bes. We have the fucking Starr Report here, running around summoning *teachers* out of class, not students. (the District Attorney could care less about students, who cares if students are banging students). This is ten times bigger than the Starr Report, because it's fucking underage. The best part, of course, is: "On Friday, the father of the girl said she had been scheduled to attend a Christian retreat in Jasper [Ed: hick town] that weekend, but instead checked out of school early to meet Chapman." (http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/saturday/local_news_a33bd1a263c1819f00d0.html) A close second would have to be the teacher getting re-arrested while out on bond, for *possession of marijuana*, *while trying to meet up with the alleged student for sex*. It is a perfect example of Scott Adams' three rules of human behavior (selfishness, horniness, stupidity). This is, of course, way fucking better than Columbine. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:46 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ---------------------------------------------------------------- The move is thought to be at the request of investors, who want to accelerate [1] the company's move to profitability, rather than any uncertainty about Zelerate's innovative business model. "It's what the market is looking for in general - it's not just us," a spokesman told us this morning, Pacific Time. He stressed that going profitable didn't mean going proprietary:- "The GPL is the cornerstone of our business. That remains - absolutely." ---------------------------------------------------------------- To focus on the "open source" aspect of the story is to completely miss the point. Layoffs are not a new trend. In fact, they are what makes the "Internet Economy" run. What makes the new draughts of wealth especially sweet for the upper crust is the exclusion of the bulk of the population from the boom times and the golden IPOs . Stock markets massively reward those companies and those CEOs most ruthlessly committed to laying off great swathes of their workforce. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:49:46 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Before the nineties, productivity had been a meaningful measure precisely because it signified real economic advances for the entire population. Growing productivity was, in fact, just about the only condition under which neoclassical economics was willing to acknowledge that wage increases were justified. But while productivity numbers in the final years of the decade grew at rates not seen since the 1960s, what put them on the front page and made them the subject of breathless commentary in Wired and on CNBC was that this connection to higher wages no longer seemed to exist. Wages remained stagnant even while productivity increased; the advances were funnelled directly into stock prices. This was the reason productivity announcements in the late nineties were greeted with such jubilation: The people who got richer as workers became more productive were stockholders. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Now that the bubble of Internet IPOs is starting to deflate, we should expect to see a lot more of this story. Even when things were looking rosy, the rule of thumb was to pay the CEO first. In 1990, the average CEO made 85 times what the average worker made; by 1999, CEOs were making four hundred and seventy times more than their workers. [2] When it's time to tighten the belt in the face of economic austerity, who do you think will take the wage cut? -- --------------- modus operandi --------------- is matt obert --------------- [1] Shouldn't that read "Investors want to Zelerate the company's move to profitability?" [2] Business Week, April 17, 2000. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:50:14 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: -tasty -- Blair's spokesman said: "My understanding is that (the slaughterman) was moving the decomposing carcass of a cow, when that carcass exploded, and the fluid went into his mouth. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:50:18 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: International PEP Standard. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:50:26 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Wayne "Mulder" Manzo wmanzo@yahoo.com 513-766-2003x1110(voice,fax) http://www.mansue.com http://madona.tripod.com Don't bother they're both censored. ---- End Forwarded Message ---- -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:50:32 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Choak \Choak\, v. t. & i. See {Choke}. That was just put in there as a reference for idiots who can't spell, obviously, otherwise more information would be given. And my very much going for that factor. Have a biscuit! > Try reading the mailing list for a week with Outlook and reading the > headers of emails it barfs on and you'll see what I mean... The headers are perfectly valid. -- They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; From They pursued it with forks and hope; The Hunting of the Snark: They threatened its life with a railway-share; an Agony in Eight Fits They charmed it with smiles and soap. by Lewis Carroll From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:50:56 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hanlon's Razor prov. A corollary of {Finagle's Law}, similar to Occam's Razor, that reads "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." The derivation of the Hanlon eponym is not definitely known, but a very similar remark ("You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity.") appears in "Logic of Empire", a classic 1941 SF story by Robert A. Heinlein, who calls it the `devil theory' of sociology. Heinlein's popularity in the hacker culture makes plausible the supposition that `Hanlon' is derived from `Heinlein' by phonetic corruption. A similar epigram has been attributed to William James, but Heinlein more probably got the idea from Alfred Korzybski and other practitioners of General Semantics. Quoted here because it seems to be a particular favorite of hackers, often showing up in {sig block}s, {fortune cookie} files and the login banners of BBS systems and commercial networks. This probably reflects the hacker's daily experience of environments created by well-intentioned but short-sighted people. Compare {Sturgeon's Law}, {Ninety-Ninety Rule}. [Microsoft getting pissy over having been offered GPL'd software] > Not only that, but Microsoft NEVER LETS GO. "Let it go, Steve." "NO! > I'll never let this go!" They're tenacious in their ignorance -- it's > really astounding. So it would be totally within the realm of > possibility that this one incident would drive Microsoft to a press > blitz and possible proposed legislation (you heard it here first, > folks), rather than any market pressure from Linux. Small consolation, perhaps, that this blitzkrieg is based upon erroneous interpretations of the facts. I smell a satire coming on: http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/gateswhine.html -- You are not entitled to your opinions. 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:50:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: it's public domain, but that it's not profitable. And what's wrong is not that the knowledge is available for all, but that medicine is a game of profit and not compassion. BB> What I find most of the time is nothing the other BB> side of the miasma. Well, that's too bad for you. Me> P.S. Which paragraph? BB> The paragraph immediately above, in context. Of course. Do I BB> have repeat it? No, I thought you might be referencing my age, which hadn't been quoted. BB> Here you have lurched uncontrollably into the truth. That was a highly controlled lurch. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ freenet:MSK@SSK@u1AntQcZ81Y4c2tJKd1M87cZvPoQAge/pigdog+journal// "Cetere, Kartago estas detruenda." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:51:00 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Begone \Be*gone"\, interj. [Be, v. i. + gone, p. p.] Go away; depart; get you gone. -- Robert Edmonds stu@brainfood.com From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:51:25 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: of months, I have determined that the correct answer to "Get off my list" is in fact: "Awww, but Muuuuuuum! I only just joined!" - Jeff -- "Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet, Spaceballs From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:51:47 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: sweet-talk v : influence or urge by gentle urging, caressing, or flattering; "He palavered her into going along" [syn: {wheedle}, {cajole}, {palaver}, {blarney}, {coax}, {inveigle}] Has anyone here ever been able to palaver a girl into doing anything? Inveigle maybe, but palaver, definitely not. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:51:52 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: The story began in 1999, when David McOwen worked on the computer systems at DeKalb Technical College in Georgia. Like many other geeks, David realized that most of the machines on campus sat idle most of the time - good computing power going to waste. That very thought has led to the creation of several companies looking to tap into that power. The idea is to chop up large computer jobs into small portions, and shoot these bits of work to individual computers over the Internet. You could eventually pay computer owners for the spare time of their machines. One such outfit, Distributed.net, has been testing the idea since 1997 by cracking encryption systems - products that scramble data so that unauthorized people can't read it. Interested techies go to the Distributed.net Web site and download software that runs when their machines aren't doing something else. This software toils away at cracking a code, a task that would take millions of years for a single computer. But when chopped up and spread across tens of thousands of machines, the work should be finished in just a few years. To draw in lots of participants, Distributed.net is offering $1,000 to the person whose computer actually cracks the code. To improve their odds of winning, people with access to lots of computers have installed the software on many systems. That's what David did at his college. The state of Georgia doesn't agree with this use of computers. Under state law, David's effort might be considered misuse of the state's computers - and in Georgia, that's a felony. In a cry for help published on the Web site Anandtech.com, David said the state wants $415,000 in compensation for lost computing and network capacity. And of course, there's always that possible prison sentence of 15 years to consider. _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-70 421 58 25 http://www.pawlo.com/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:51:53 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: pedro -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- FREE DMITRY SKLYAROV -- FBI has imprisioned a Russian software engineer for promoting and teaching the concept of "fair use". Read more: http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010719_eff_sklyarov_alert.html From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:51:53 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:52:12 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:52:17 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: pedro From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:52:18 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: -=- [...] server string = BRIEF COMMENT ABOUT SERVER Replace... The BRIEF COMMENT ABOUT SERVER is optional and will be the Windows comment about the Samba system... -=- I A M A N I N S A N E C O M P U T E R . ? D O E S N ' T T H E P R I N T L O O K N I C E . ? H O W V E R B O S E M I G H T M $ I M A G I N From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:52:42 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://www.enteract.com/~benjbec/ -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- FREE DMITRY SKLYAROV -- http://www.freesklyarov.org/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:53:19 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 1. Why COBOL ? * 1.1 Isn't COBOL obsolete ? Although developed more than 3 decades ago, COBOL is still one of the most widely used computer languages. The investment in COBOL by government and industry is significant. Here are some statistics to put it in perspective: ... * Two billion new lines of COBOL code are developed each year. ... Um... what the /fuck/? Who writes these lines? And why? WHY?! Think of the children! 2. Do we need a free COBOL compiler ? * 2.1 Why has no one created a free COBOL so far ? Yes. The freeware community would benefit from such an effort. ... right. -- http://www.tsumakin.net/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:53:22 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: onto 2nd. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:53:23 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: stop; walk two blocks north on 2nd. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:53:23 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: or transfer to the N train and see above. By car: Baseball season is out so there should be plenty of parking spaces to choose from. Please join us at 7:00 for dinner; program begins at 8:00. No admission charge, but you pay for your own food and drink. Vegetarian foods available. -- Don Marti What do we want? Free Dmitry! When do we want it? Now! http://zgp.org/~dmarti dmarti@zgp.org Free the web, burn all GIFs. KG6INA http://burnallgifs.org/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:53:40 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: respect. ~Mr. Bad P.S. Read the whole thing. ---8<--- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Toronto Star, Ontario ed. FAST FORWARD, Thursday, July 5, 2001, p. H02 A Question of Content What's to become of the e-zine? Once touted as the next great wave in journalism, electronic magazines have been ravaged Gerry Blackwell A lot of people in the Internet world, have recently been bemoaning the fate of e-zines, those Web-only journals that were supposed to revolutionize the magazine publishing industry. Web zine publishers, you see, have been afflicted by the same malaise that has decimated the ranks of other dot-coms. That is, they don't make money. Once hopeful endeavors, like Suck (www.suck.com), the irreverent and totally independent satirical journal that first appeared in 1996, and Feed (www.feed.com), a more general interest, but still decidedly edgy online-only publication launched in 1995 have stopped. Both are still there. You can look at back issues, but apparently there won't be any new content. Well, boo-hoo. Yes, it's too bad these ambitious commercial e-zines have failed to capture a paying audience and can't make it on advertising alone. But maybe they missed the point of Web publishing in the first place- or maybe they were just ahead of the curve, as the suits say. In this seventh in our series on Internet content, we pick up where we left off last time when we looked at mainstream print publishers on the Web. This time it's e-zines and the world of grassroots publishing. The real point of Web publishing may just be that anyone can do it- and usually does. Without thinking of making money at it. If you can write and have a few friends who write and/or draw and somebody who can do HTML (the easy-to-learn coding language for Web pages), hey, you can publish your own e-zine. It's even cheaper and logistically simpler than the mimeographed, letter pressed and xeroxed little magazines of earlier eras. You can do the whole thing yourself from your bedroom. Indeed, hundreds (thousands?) of enterprising folk, and companies, do just that- including youngsters. Heck, most home Internet access accounts include enough free Web hosting space- storage space on the service provider's computers- to maintain a decent little zine. So all it's going to cost you is your time. But there's the rub, of course. Once you stop being a dependent and have to fend for yourself, time, as they say, is money. Developing passable writing, drawing, photographing and editing skills takes time. And once you have them they're too valuable to squander on a labour of love. So it didn't take long for entrepreneurial young publishers, editors and writers to start thinking of the Web as a medium for professional publishing- a way to break in, show their stuff and maybe air a different perspective than was being presented in the mainstream media. Journals like Suck and Feed and all their spiritual progeny followed. Figuring out how to make money publishing e-zines has always been a problem, though- and nobody has quite figured it out yet. Suck and Feed are just the most prominent of the casualties. Many more have folded their tents in the night. One glimmer of hope for those who want to believe e-zines are a viable commercial alternative to print is that Salon (www.salon.com), the most famous of e-zines, is still going- though it would not be accurate to say it's going strong. Like Suck and Feed before it, Salon is in trouble financially. It's reportedly contemplating turning itself into a subscription-based publication- something that has not worked for anyone else yet. In the meantime, though, it offers an intriguing vision of what Web publishing could be. Salon, it should be noted, used to be better than it is now- and better differentiated from mainstream print journals too. Today it's a general interest news magazine with lots of opinion pieces and no-holds-barred reviews of the arts and entertainment. It still uses banner advertising, the standard form of advertising on the Web until recently, but now also features more difficult to ignore ads, some of them annoying Java-jiggles, integrated right into the articles. The Comics section does differentiate Salon a little from the Vanity Fairs of this world. It includes strip cartoons tending to the satirical- often obscurely so and sometimes frankly lame. "This Modern World," a regular feature by the pseudonymous Tom Tomorrow, is typical. The art is mediocre, the writing lumpy. But it's nothing if not topical. The last I saw was a poke at U.S. vice president Dick Cheney's asinine energy policies. The Sex section is another differentiator, sort of. On a recent Sunday, I read part of an ongoing series by a young American woman describing her experiences working as a down-market geisha in Tokyo's demi monde. The best writing in Salon is as good as you'll find in any mainstream publication, better than in many. But of course, good writing- and editing, art and HTML programing- don't come cheap. Hence the financial problems. Other substantial mainstream zines to check out: Inside (www.inside.com), a review of the arts and the world of digital media, and Slate (www.slate.com), a more general interest, political journal. You might want to check them out sooner rather than later, though. They're subject to the same economic crunch as Suck, Feed, Salon, etc. The future of e-zines may be in ratbag ventures such as Pigdog Journal (pigdog.org), a non-profit anti-establishment e-zine of opinion, mainly about the cyberculture. It's free and doesn't carry advertising. This zine is subtitled ironically "News on the March." One of its tag lines is "Bad craziness at impossible speeds." This gives you some idea of what to expect. The content is laced with profanities and scurrilous editorializing. Its authors write under assumed names such as Mr. Bad and Baron Earl. You just know they're all 20-something males. Sometimes Pigdog tries a little too hard to be obnoxious, but its humour is irresistible and the writing is nothing if not vigorous. Take Mr. Bad's rant on the demise of Suck, in which he castigates the fallen e-zine basically for selling out. It's headlined "Don't Let The Cyberdoor Hit You In The Cyberass On The Way Out." "Man, I really shouldn't gloat about the demise of another Web magazine. I really shouldn't. I know I shouldn't. But F--K, I'm going to! Goodbye, Suck dot com! Patsy amateurs! Clear the FLOOR, the man is gonna DANCE." It goes on in the same vein- wild, sarcastic, devil-may-care. Heck, why not, Mr. Bad is anonymous. Or here's "Miles Standish," another regular contributor, on a new education bill in the U.S. which, according to him, enshrines the right of young Americans to discriminate against gays. "Boy, Congress thinks of everything! They added this great section to the recent big-socks education reform bill that protects against discrimination. Specifically, they protect fagbashers from discrimination! Yay! This way, you can have your own anti-homosexual group and be guaranteed your rights!" He finishes his rant by encouraging Pigdog's highschool-age readers to demand school funding for their own anti-gay clubs, which according to Mr. Standish, is now their inalienable right. This is as a way of protesting, mind. He's not serious. You may not always agree with Pigdog, you may not like its tone, but there's something appealing about the say-it-like-it-is, damn-the-torpedoes style and the almost palpable sense of outrage in the writing. There are lots more where Pigdog came from. Since e-zines tend to attract young writers, and young people tend to be angry and/or zany- or affect to be- there are lots of angry, zany zines. But there are more than just angry, zany zines. Indeed, there is a zine for virtually every taste and interest. Despite the woes of the big, high-profile commercial ventures, the Web still harbours gazillions of spotty little zines and special interest journals that could really only exist because of the shoe-string economics of Web publishing. How do you find 'em? Good old Google is as good a place as any to start. Yahoo! will do almost as well. At the Google main page (www.google.com) click to the Google Web Directory, select News, then E-zines. The 200-odd zines listed on the first directory page merely scratch the surface of what's out there. Most of these are general interest and "opinion-based" journals. You'll find Pigdog here, for example. There are also some odd-ball titles such as Failure magazine (www.failuremag.com)- "interviews, articles, and commentary on the unsuccessful in arts and entertainment, business, history, sports, science and technology." Now doesn't that sound like an uplifting read! The current issue includes a business profile on Iraqi Airways, about which the author says early on, "At the moment, Iraqi Airways doesn't have a lot to offer its passengers." That was in paragraph two, where I stopped reading this particular article. Or how about Netwits magazine (www.netwitsmagazine.com), "news and articles, from over 160 humour columnists, on entertainment, sports, lifestyle, relationships, parenting, and travel." Humour is so difficult to write well isn't it? Or Jinx magazine (www.jinxmagazine.com/flashsite)- tagline: worldwide urban adventure. It's for counter-culture secret agents. The lead article in the current issue of Jinx is an exciting report from "The Arc Agent Gabriel," an undercover inquiry into an abandoned air force base in upstate New York that was supposedly once, and is maybe still, used for "cutting edge quantum physics research and mind control experiments." This stuff just would never have seen the light of day in the old print world. (Which, you may be thinking, wouldn't have been such a bad thing.) The Google directory also has sub-categories for Arts, Literature, Computers and Business. The Arts sub-category breaks down into 14 sub-sub-categories, one of which is Music- which in turn breaks down into 30 more sub-sub-sub-categories. You see what I mean. There is really something here for everyone- actually more than one thing usually. Who would have thought there would be an audience for 13 different e-zines about Bluegrass music? Many are strictly amateur, but almost as many are impressively professional. Jazz fans, don't miss All About Jazz (www.allaboutjazz.com), an excellent e-zine from that thriving hub of new media publishing, Springfield, Penn. If you can't find what you want in one of Google's sub-sub-categories, try one of the e-zine directories listed in its Directories category. Most list by subject categories. Some claim to have links to 3,000 and more. Something for everyone indeed. And not one of them is ever likely to make any money. Note(s): This is the seventh in an ongoing series on the state of Internet content. Writer Gerry Blackwell may be reached via e-mail at gerryblackwell@home.com. Illustration(s): HIT AND MISS: Electronic magazines on the Web range from dreadful to superb. Some examples are Allaboutjazz.com, top, Salon.com, bottom, and Netwits.com. Category: Science and Technology Uniform subject(s): Books; Editors and publishing industry; Internet, information technologies and multimedia; Prizes, awards and honors; The press and print media Length: Long, 1459 words Copyright 2001 Toronto Star, All Rights Reserved. Doc.: 20010705TS0000079 This material is copyrighted. All rights reserved. ---8<--- -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I want you to play with my ding-a-ling." -- Ben Franklin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:53:41 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > ebeats | January 25, 2002 @ 10:49 am | View Profile; > .......lvcm.com | Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) ^^^^^^^^^^ > If morpheus causes your computer to crash or any pop up's, I think > it's time to invest into a new machine.. or perhaps upgrading off > WINDOWS 98!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^ That's right; a Windows 98 user is berating another Windows 98 user, telling him to upgrade if he dislikes the instability. That's some good shit. -md From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:18 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > specials = "(" / ")" / "<" / ">" / "@" ; Must be in quoted- > / "," / ";" / ":" / "\" / <"> ; string, to use > / "." / "[" / "]" ; within a word. No "'", there, so you can have it in your email address (cf. addr-spec, local-part): (Sec 6.1): > addr-spec = local-part "@" domain ; global address > > local-part = word *("." word) ; uninterpreted > ; case-preserved A "word" is (in the case in question) "1*". Even though it breaks Mutt's and VIM's syntax highlighting, it's valid. -md (Yes, this message was constructed in reverse and sent uncorrected) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:19 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: you could enforce shrinkwrap or webwrap och clickwrap agreements should be if they were common. If the parties expect an agreement they should be bound by it. But if the agreement is presented by surprise - hidden inside the code or the program box - you have another issue. In ProCD v. Zeidenberg 89 F.3d 1257 (7th Cir. 1996) the court stated, in accordance with Illionois UCC, "vendors can put the entire terms of a contract on the outside of a box only by using microscopic type, removing other information that buyers might find more useful (such as what the software does, and on which computers it works, or both)." In Hill v. Gateway 2000 105 F. 3d 1147 (7th Cir. 1997) the court ruled that shrinkwrap licenses could be enforced in respect of hardware sales. In CompuServe, Inc. v. Patterson, 89 F.3d 1257 (6th Cir. 1996) the court ruled the parties to be bound by a clause in a clickwrap contract stipulating governing law. The court stated: "finally, we need not and do not hold that CompuServe may, as the district court posited, sue any regular subscriber to its service for nonpayment in Ohio, even if the subscriber is a native Alaskan who has never left home. Each of those cases may well arise someday, but they are not before us now." In Hotmail Corp. v. Van Money Pie Inc., No. C98-20064 (N.D. Cal., April 20, 1998) the court issued an injunction based on a user agreement, formed through a clickwrap (regulating the use of Hotmail for sending unsolicited email). The court ruled: "the evidence supports a finding that plaintiff will likely prevail on its breach of contract claim." The Hotmail v Van Money Pie case is often used as the case proving clickwrap contracts are enforceable (see for example: Raysman and Brown in The New York Law Journal August 11, 1998, Clickwrap License Agreements, s 7 ff). However, this was only a preliminary injunction and the issue at hand was never more thouroughly investigated by the court. Hence, new legislation has been presented, namely the UCC 2b (see Leibowitz in The National Law Journal, 7 december 1998, s A17). Lessig is afraid that a common principle regarding contracts - that is contracts should present it terms in a easy obtainable way - will be demolished by the new UCC (see Lessig in The Industry Standard, 20 november 1998, Sign it and weep). However, I think people are aware that there are agreements regulating the use of computer programs. Thus, the agreements will bind a user. If such agreements have very harsch terms, the terms need to be clearly introduced to the user - in most jurisdictions if not all - in order to be enforceable. The GNU GPL will not be hed unenforceable in most jurisdictions just on the ground that it is a shrinkwrap agreement. However, some clauses in the GNU GPL might - in some jurisdictions - not be upheld by a court, while the clauses are to far-going to be put in a shrinkwrap. But that is just pure speculation. Regards Mikael Pawlo - - - The information contained in the pages provided by Mikael Pawlo is not legal advice. Mikael Pawlo has attempted to provide the information contained within these pages as a service to the Crackmonkey subscribers and the public. It is my belief that the public should be informed of their rights. When the public is better informed as to their rights, they are better able to create and protect their intellectual property. If you need help understanding your rights, I advise that you consult an attorney who is versed in the field. _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:24 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "...the signature SHOULD be preceded with a delimiter line containing (only) two hyphens (ASCII 45) followed by one blank (ASCII 32)." Still got me baffled -- Chuck D Fuckwit From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:29 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "The term "ruptured duck" has a history that goes back at least as far as World War II. You might consider it a linguistic icon of that era of American history. It resounds with the rich (http://www.bartleby.com/61/8/O0080800.html) onomatopoetic prosodies that are the hallmark of its Anglo-Saxon origins. "Here is an (http://www.google.com/search?q=ruptured+duck+world+war+II) interesting Google search that sheds light on the uses of this phrase." hth -- Bob Bernstein From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:30 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: everyone be as freakin' cool as I am?" Duh. Now, you say you really _do_ have a lot of friends? No? What a surprise. wooozle> In any case, Mr. Duck, you have the source code, quit wooozle> complaining and start hacking. Oh Lordy, the old confabulation, and a favorite of muck-rakers everywhere: mis-attribute a position to your interlocutor, then abuse him for holding it. wooozle> And another thing: "User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) wooozle> Emacs/21.1". Your diss on mutt has, therefore, bounced off wooozle> me and stuck to you. And that just makes you so cool I am having a hot flash right now. But that's it wooozle-man. As Dieter, in Schprockets, used to say, "Your conversation has become tiresome; touch my monkey. TOUCH HIM!" Find another trollee. -- Bob Bernstein From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:32 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: that is instituted by the computer on our logical reasoning... not the other way around. Lastly, we learned to program in Pascal. However, armed with the above, it seemed a rather limiting language. Scheme would have been a better choice. c. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: window has the xterm running w3m, and creating a window inside there. I might be reading it wrong. In any case, this is brilliant. The wacko who developed it is now working on JavaScript support in w3m: http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Ehsaka/w3m/index.html -- Warning! A new signature virus has been detected! If you receive a signature with the text "please add me to your ~/.signature", DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY! Please pass this signature on to your friends! From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:55:15 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: programmer to create the scripts to do the mass spamming. > They terminated our account in a very short period of time, a matter > of days. And there was a lot of mail that we were really never able > to get. We guessed there were 25,000 to 50,000 e-mails that never > got to us. We eventually got a hard disk from them some months > later that had it all on there, but we were never completely > successful at pulling the data off of it. We delivered to their lawyer a 4mm DAT tape two days after the incident. I believe all the info was encoded in ROT 13. :) -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:15 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: -=- The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. [... then, ?what's with this score shit...] Re:Commercials are a necessity. (Score:3, Insightful) [... yeah, like that, ?who's "we"...] by stubear on Thursday June 06, @04:57PM (#3654963) (User #130454 Info) If companies didn't market their products there would be no product awareness by the consumer and they wouldn't know to buy the product. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Commercials are a necessity. by stubear (Score:3) Moderation Totals: Insightful=1, Total=1. [... inciteful, provoked this reply...] Re:Commercials are a necessity. (Score:1) by 87C751 (sdotNO@SPAMscytale.com) on Thursday June 06, @05:42PM (#3655398) (User #205250 Info | http://www.scytale.com/) Oh, my gawd! You mean we might have to rely on word of mouth? Claiming that advertising is the only method of promotion and publicity is naive at best. [... I detect insight, herein, and wonder about low score... [... scorer penalizes sarcastic/downer smarty-pants... [... scorer has ego attached to score of prior (lame) post... -=-=- Consider an enterprise -- even aware of internet -- but swimming in advertising, as the fish unaware of alternatives to water... distributed alternatives to paid-advertising's central-heating... might not compute... ?what's in it for us... slash your own org From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:12 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: *said* that they weren't tax-exempt, the `reporters' just couldn't find the league listed in the online IRS nonprofit database. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:17 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "Phone is depreciated, but if you must call me:" This ought to read: "Phone is deprecated..." -- montaigne From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:37 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: And the glorification of god and the help to the Islam --=20 dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:47 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: -*- Rant On, and on -*- Let's compare two approaches to the tab/indentation issue with a small code sample using tabs then spaces. This snippet happens to be the key to top's use of dynamic colors on many static screens, while also ensuring screen width isn't exceeded so as to avoid line wraps. We'll view just the first 40 columns, assuming one wishes to occasionally provide comments to the right of actual code (you do, don't you?). Then YOU decide which approach makes the most SENSE! Stinkin' Tabs versus Spaces: the Linus way Hey, where'd my +----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4+ many code lines | while (*sub_beg) { : up-and-gone-to? | switch (*sub_end: | case 0: : Gosh, wonder if | \ Tabs Induced / : Linus expects a | case 1: : fellow to stick | + WASTE-Lands! + case 5: : his comments on | : the left side?! | + Not a Living + : | : Ever see source | + line-of-code + : with not enough | : whitespace; and | / To Be Found! \ : this is better? | default:: | : Oh lookie here, \ } : there's just a hint of REAL code! ----> if (0 >= room) b: / } /* end: while 'subtrin: +----------------------------------------+ Spaces versus Stinkin' Tabs: the other way +----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4+ Wow, now this is | while (*sub_beg) { : Visible hackin'! | switch (*sub_end) { : | case 0: : Hmmm, wonder how | *(sub_end + 1) = '\0'; : many programmers | case 1: case 2: case 3: case: read those lines | case 5: case 6: case 7: case: from the LEFT to | cap = Curwin->captab[(int: the RIGHT? This | *sub_end = '\0'; : "innovation" may | PUTP("%s%.*s%s", cap, roo: possibly benefit | room -= (sub_end - sub_be: those particular | sub_beg = ++sub_end; : kinds of people, | break; : you agree? Duh! | default: : | ++sub_end; : AND, there might | } : even be room for | if (0 >= room) break; : unseen comments! | } /* end: while 'subtrings' */ : +----------------------------------------+ Gosh, I just don't KNOW -- it's such a TOUGH choice... Oh you Stinkin' Tabs: correspondence, Who-Cares; documentation, Oh-Alright; even scripts, Well-If-You-Must. But you have NO place within the code-space of MY C-source listing! So be gone already!! In Summation... - If you want to use tabs to the right of the code, go-for-it. But PLEASE, not ever in the C-source code-space, thank-you- kindly. Just use three little ol' spaces (exactly 3, no-more, no-less) where you WOULD have stuck a stinkin' tab. We'll get far more READABLE files, much less WAISTED precious horizontal space, more consistent CURSORS and on, and ON, AND ON! Plus, without those awful *the-devil's-own-handiwork*, the aforementioned document need NEVER speak of their EVILS again. - Lastly, since SPACES (not stinkin' tabs) are SO beneficial, maybe we should use just a few more of 'em. Some of those C- thingies are VERY sensitive -- they don't like being TOUCHED by any other syntax element! Which ones? Why these guys: braces, reserved words and binary operators ( it's the TRUTH, they told me themselves ) It's so EASY to keep 'em HAPPY! And lo-and-behold, the combi- nation of thingy turns out to be a darn effective bug repellent, too. So much so, one can actually code while TOTALLY NUDE yet still avoid them ol' bug-bytes (sic-sic)! step down_from me_punctilious soap-box_once_again [1 +5 +5 +5 = huh?] -- James Moffitt. "The Internet is a great way to get on the Net." -- Bob Dole sourceforge From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:49 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Limbo \Lim"bo\ (l[i^]m"b[-o]), Limbus \Lim"bus\ (-b[u^]s), n. [L. limbus border, edge, in limbo on the border. Cf. {Limb} border.] 1. (Scholastic Theol.) An extramundane region where certain classes of souls were supposed to await the judgment. As far from help as Limbo is from bliss. --Shak. A Limbo large and broad, since called The Paradise of fools. --Milton. Note: The limbus patrum was considered as a place for the souls of good men who lived before the coming of our Savior. The limbus infantium was said to be a similar place for the souls of unbaptized infants. To these was added, in the popular belief, the limbus fatuorum, or fool's paradise, regarded as a receptacle of all vanity and nonsense. 2. Hence: Any real or imaginary place of restraint or confinement; a prison; as, to put a man in limbo. -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:52 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: sodomist n : someone who engages in anal copulation (especially a male who engages in anal copulation with another male) [syn: {sodomite}, {sod}, {bugger}] $ dict sodomite 2 definitions found From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:52 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Sodomite \Sod"om*ite\, n. 1. An inhabitant of Sodom. 2. One guilty of sodomy. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:52 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: sodomite n : someone who engages in anal copulation (especially a male who engages in anal copulation with another male) [syn: {sodomist}, {sod}, {bugger}] -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:53 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: With a new T-1, you fresh Nothing closey with us Make the code, make it open, bring it home kid-wiz Don't be fooled by the box that I got I'm still, I'm still Moffitt with the socks Used to have a little code, now I have a lot No matter where I go You know where it came from Don't be fooled by the source that I got I'm still, I'm still Moffitt with the socks Used to have a little code, now I have a lot No matter where I go I know where it came from From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:57:53 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: To Crackmonkey, to Moffat to this Burn all gifs I stay open As the source code roll in I'm open I thought I told you (I'm open) I'm open even on Slashdot (I'm free) That's just me Nothing closey, don't hate on me What you get is what you see, oh Don't be fooled by the box that I got I'm still, I'm still Moffitt with the socks Used to have a little code, now I have a lot No matter where I go You know where it came from Don't be fooled by the source that I got I'm still, I'm still Moffitt with the socks Used to have a little code, now I have a lot No matter where I go I know where it came from I'm open and free like this Rockin' this BSD I've coded so much I'm in Garnome and lovin' it Gates has got me laughing kid I love my code and it's public Put GNU first and can't forget to stay free To me its like breathing, yeah Don't be fooled by the box that I got I'm still, I'm still Moffitt with the socks Used to have a little code, now I have a lot No matter where I go You know where it came from Don't be fooled by the source that I got I'm still, I'm still Moffitt with the socks Used to have a little code, now I have a lot No matter where I go I know where it came from Yo, yo It take hard work to slash code So don't be fooled by the box that I got, Gates-ass You get back what you put out And even if you take the O'Reilly You can't count the source out After a while you'll know who to code with Just keep it free with the GNUs you came in with Best thing to do is stay low The Tux and Li-lo ./ Gates act like they don't - but they know Gates can't get a penny from the stock And at the end of the day He's still Moffitt with the socks, yeah /. Don't be fooled by the box that I got I'm still, I'm still Moffitt with the socks Used to have a little code, now I have a lot No matter where I go You know where code came from Don't be fooled by the source that I got I'm still, I'm still Moffitt with the socks Used to have a little code, now I have a lot No matter where I go I know where it came from _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:03 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: strike down the Litan and CCC's attempts. Similar interventions have been tried before in other cases and they were also struck down. The Computer & Communications Industry Association made an attempt to extend the period of appeal before the motions were turned down. It had hoped to file an appeal and, presumably, would have used the responses to the earlier requests to hone its appeal so that it might have good legal standing. Kollar-Kotelly refused the motion to extend the appeal deadline before refusing the other motions. The judge also criticised the arguments put forth, "even if the Court were to agree that [Litan] has adequately alleged an interest implicated by the Judgment, [he] still would not be entitled to intervene as of right because he has failed to show that his interests have been impaired." That's despite specific defects being pointed out to the DoJ which were not rectified in the final judgement. The judge defended this by writing that "mere failure to secure better remedies for a third party . . . is not a qualifying impairment." It seems that the case is effectively at an end. The settlement has been settled upon. =B5 On 2003.02.10 17:20 Ruben I Safir wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 2003.02.10 17:06 Ruben I Safir wrote: > >=20 > > AND THE BEAT GOES ON.... >=20 > Part II > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2130190,00.html >=20 >=20 > --=20 > __________________________ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > __________________________ > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com >=20 > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... >=20 > 1-718-382-0585 > ____________________________ > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... >=20 --=20 __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:05 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: doofus \doo"fus\, n. a person who is stupid or inept; -- used contemptuously. [Also spelled {dufus}.] [Slang] Syn: dingdong, ding-a-ling. [PJC] -- Bob Bernstein From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: March 2003, Diedrich Knickerbocker, Ed. Budget for litigation, or make it someone else's problem. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jul 8 18:42:18 2005 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Everyone's asking: How did Bob get like this? - and the answer is still the same: Bill Clinton. I don't know why this is so hard for folks to grasp. When our repeat sexual offender aka President pointed his finger at the camera and uttered those words that needn't be repeated, it set off in me the equivalent of a bad acid flashback. Flashback to what, you ask? To the days of Johnson and Westmoreland staring at me and lying to my face, only worse, since at least those men had something of substance to lie about, not some sweaty neurotic encounters that he finished off in a bathroom sink. Like I say, this seems beyond the pale of comprehension for many, expecially in my family, where our liberal upbringing still largely holds sway. My sense of the thing is that despite passing most of the sixties in an opioid fog I had focussed sharply on the mendacity of the administration in its wartime policies. Clearly, here was concrete evidence of what Nietzsche must have been alluding to when he mused, "Facts are exactly what we don't have." When it came to the war in Vietnam the only option, besides simply opting for news sources that were guaranteed to reinforce one's presuppositions, to provide an emotional sop, was to spread several of any dozen or so newspapers on the floor and try to piece together a factual account of any given event by melding the various pages together in a mysterious ouija board fashion. Decontructionism became a way of mental life. There was no center that held. One dwelt in an epistemological vacuum. I was not going to go back there for the sake of this creep's ejaculatory misadventures. Not for one fucking second. Something worthwhile, namely American lives, were at stake in Nam. There was nothing at stake in Clinton's mess that was worth even a moment's consideration, and a man of honor would have seen that immediately and resigned. Period. I became used to saying words to the effect, "It will be many years before we realize the full extent of the damage Bill Clinton has done to this country." Sadly, it took only a few months after he departed office, that is, by September 12th all was clear. _________________________________________________________________ webmeister@sixtiessurvivor.org -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html