From brian at 8ball.wox.org Sat Mar 1 05:22:18 2003 From: brian at 8ball.wox.org (Brian Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day! Message-ID: <20030301132217.GA11245@8ball.wox.org> In honor of Mailman Day, here's a joke: One day a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel attached to his crotch. So the bartender says to him, "You know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?" And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!" From alchemist at darkcanvas.com Sat Mar 1 04:08:41 2003 From: alchemist at darkcanvas.com (Kevin Sonney) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day! Message-ID: <20030301070841.366c43db.alchemist@darkcanvas.com> In honor of Mailman Day, here's a joke: One day a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel attached to his crotch. So the bartender says to him, "You know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?" And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!" -- ---------------------------------- -- Kevin Sonney -- -- ICQ: 4855069 AIM: ksonney -- ---------------------------------- 320C 0336 3BC4 13EC 4AEC 6AF2 525F CED7 7BB6 12C9 The weakest link in any civil rights case is always the defendant. Imagine being a lawyer and getting a call from me. That's why I try to, uh, behave myself. -- Hunter S. Thompson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://frotz.zork.net/pipermail/crackmonkey/attachments/20030301/a9856b23/attachment.pgp From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Sat Mar 1 13:01:37 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy fun ball? Message-ID: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> http://muse.linuxmafia.org/: > gShield in no way taunts Happy Fun Ball, and is released > under the GNU General Public License (GPLv2). Oh, I see it's in the "Saturday Night Live FAQ". Just more television. From squinky at dasbistro.com Sat Mar 1 15:19:57 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy fun ball? In-Reply-To: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:01:37PM -0800, J. M. Brenner wrote: > Oh, I see it's in the "Saturday Night Live FAQ". > > Just more television. Wow, your disdain for television is about the second coolest thing I've ever heard! Thanks for sharing! -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From simm at zork.net Sat Mar 1 15:35:49 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy fun ball? In-Reply-To: <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> References: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030301233549.GB18732@zork.net> begin Not Erik quotation: > On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:01:37PM -0800, J. M. Brenner wrote: > > Oh, I see it's in the "Saturday Night Live FAQ". > > > > Just more television. > > Wow, your disdain for television is about the second coolest thing > I've ever heard! Thanks for sharing! > I tell you what, ever since I got rid of the TeeVee in my home, all my wife, kids and I discuss is how we great life is since we got rid of the TeeVee. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Sat Mar 1 16:02:46 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy fun ball? In-Reply-To: Message from Not Erik of "Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:19:57 PST." <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> References: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <200303020002.h2202hZ85532@mail0.rawbw.com> > Wow, your disdain for television is about the second coolest thing > I've ever heard! Thanks for sharing! But I have been totally aced by your disdain for my disdain! (You have a bot that generates these things, right?) From squinky at dasbistro.com Sat Mar 1 16:13:18 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy fun ball? In-Reply-To: <200303020002.h2202hZ85532@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> <200303020002.h2202hZ85532@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030302001318.GB19039@dasbistro.com> On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 04:02:46PM -0800, J. M. Brenner wrote: > But I have been totally aced by your disdain for my disdain! Great! It's an aloof superiority wrestling match! Like a circle-jerk without all the messy clean-up! > (You have a bot that generates these things, right?) Yes, and it spits acid, too. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Mar 1 17:17:03 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy fun ball? In-Reply-To: <20030301233549.GB18732@zork.net> References: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> <20030301233549.GB18732@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303012017.03829.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: | I tell you what, ever since I got rid of the TeeVee in my home, all | my wife, kids and I discuss is how we great life is since we got | rid of the TeeVee. wow. watching teevee or talking about how much fun it is not to watch teevee. tough choice there. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From nick at zork.net Sat Mar 1 17:53:58 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 Message-ID: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> http://xfree86.org/4.3.0/RELNOTES4.html > 4.13. xedit > > Xedit has several new features, including: > > * An embedded lisp interpreter that allows easier extension of the > editor. > * Several new syntax highlight modes, and indentation rules for C > and Lisp. > * Flexible search/replace interface that allows regex matches. > * Please refer to xedit(1) for more details. Look out GNOME and KDE! Athena's BACK baby! From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Sat Mar 1 18:44:37 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Nick Moffitt of "Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:53:58 PST." <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303020244.h222iYZ19217@mail0.rawbw.com> Nick Moffitt wrote: >> Xedit has several new features, including: >> >> * An embedded lisp interpreter that allows easier extension of the >> editor. >> * Several new syntax highlight modes, and indentation rules for C >> and Lisp. >> * Flexible search/replace interface that allows regex matches. >> * Please refer to xedit(1) for more details. So, this is really alias xedit="emacs" Right? From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Sat Mar 1 18:56:28 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy fun ball? In-Reply-To: <200303012017.03829.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> <20030301233549.GB18732@zork.net> <200303012017.03829.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <871y1qlbmr.fsf@valhalla.odinnet> dep writes: > begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: > > | I tell you what, ever since I got rid of the TeeVee in my home, all > | my wife, kids and I discuss is how we great life is since we got > | rid of the TeeVee. > > wow. watching teevee or talking about how much fun it is not to watch > teevee. tough choice there. They should make a show about that. -- erik bourget | "emacs outshines all other editing software in ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | approximately the same way that the noonday sun ---------------------/ does the stars. It is not just bigger and brighter; it simply makes everything else vanish." - Neal Stephenson From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Sat Mar 1 18:59:27 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> Message-ID: <87y93yjwxc.fsf@valhalla.odinnet> Nick Moffitt writes: > http://xfree86.org/4.3.0/RELNOTES4.html >> 4.13. xedit >> >> Xedit has several new features, including: >> >> * An embedded lisp interpreter that allows easier extension of the >> editor. >> * Several new syntax highlight modes, and indentation rules for C >> and Lisp. >> * Flexible search/replace interface that allows regex matches. >> * Please refer to xedit(1) for more details. > > Look out GNOME and KDE! Athena's BACK baby! Good thing we finally have an editor that has an embedded LISP interpreter and supports syntax highlighting! I feel inspired to make an editor called simply 'edit', which is exactly the same as xedit, but requires that all contributors sign their first-born over to me. -- erik bourget | "[edit] outshines all other editing software in ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | approximately the same way that the noonday sun ---------------------/ does the stars. It is not just bigger and brighter; it simply makes everything else vanish." - Neal Stephenson From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Mar 1 19:37:46 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> Message-ID: <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> Nick Moffitt blabbed out loud: > > * An embedded lisp interpreter that allows easier extension of > > the editor. Here's Nick, spending every spare moment, and some not-so-spare, pounding out Google searches on every conceivable concatenation of (L * I * S * P). -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From wcshafer at cablespeed.com Sat Mar 1 19:03:47 2003 From: wcshafer at cablespeed.com (Chris Shafer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Dude gets an ingrown hair. [Possibly offensive: GV]] In-Reply-To: <20030301014805.GC18272@laviola.org> References: <20030301014805.GC18272@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030302030347.GA3788@cablespeed.com> On 0, Carlos Laviola wrote: > When they say the pics are gross, you better believe it. I know I > should have. :< These pics are worse than both tubgirl.com and goatse.cx imo. Some seriously bad juju. ~Chris > > ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- > > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:59:20 -0800 > To: 0xdeadbeef@petting-zoo.net > From: gkm@petting-zoo.net (glen mccready) > Subject: Dude gets an ingrown hair. [Possibly offensive: GV] > > > [This is very disturbing; if you don't have a strong stomach, don't > look. -gkm] > > Forwarded-by: nev@bostic.com > Forwarded-by: "Rob 'Commander' Pike" > > Dear Friends - > > Since there seemed some interest and amazement at the story of the > ingrown-hair-gone-bad which came to the Stanford ER, I have attached for > your viewing pleasure (?!?!) the relevant photos. They are reasonably > disturbing. People really do this, and only a human being would or > could. This gentleman *walked* in to the ER. > > The first photo (eroded-cranial-wound.jpg) gives you a perspective view, > and the second (maggots-in-brain.jpg) shows our white larva friends > going to work on his cerebrum. > > Dude gets an ingrown hair. It gets infected, now he has a boil. Ought > to go to the doc and get it lanced, but he doesn't. Weeks pass. The boil > grows, eroding downward toward his skull. Ought to go to the hospital > in a jiffy, but he doesn't. Weeks pass. The infection reaches his skull. > Bone, once infected, presents little barrier to spread of infection to > contiguous bone, and so it spreads within his skull. Ought to spend a > good long time in the hospital, but he doesn't. The bone dies, and > begins to erode. Weeks pass. At some point, the smell attracts flies, > which begin to lay eggs in his festering wound, and maggots take hold. > Weeks pass. The infection breaches the inner layer of his skull, and > reaches the meninges. Weeks pass. Though their tensile strength is > impressive, the meninges are quite thin, and the infection breaches > them. Now, infection and maggots set to work on his brain. Your brain > just isn't supposed to be on your outside, and presents almost no > barrier to anything when exposed. Infection and maggots get to work on > his brain. This makes him feel a little wobbly on his feet, and so, what > do you know, he decides to see the doctor. He walks in to the Stanford > ER, where these photos were taken, just as you see him here. > > The pix: > > http://gelatinous.com/danh/temp/Absolute_Worst_Thing_Ever/eroded-cranial-wound.jpg > http://gelatinous.com/danh/temp/Absolute_Worst_Thing_Ever/maggots-in-brain.jpg > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Carlos Laviola > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Embrace the scheme: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2003.02.24.15.25.41.618145%40abstractnonsense.com -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From carlos at laviola.org Sun Mar 2 06:56:13 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [danh@gelatinous.com: Re: About the dude with maggots in his brain] Message-ID: <20030302145612.GA1807@laviola.org> Followup. ----- Forwarded message from danh ----- Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 04:28:04 -0800 To: Carlos Laviola From: danh Subject: Re: About the dude with maggots in his brain User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 02:30:17AM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > Hey, > > I just saw the story and, unfortunately, the pics. Do you have any idea > of what happened to the guy after the surgery? he walked out of the hospital eventually he did live i know the surgeon because of patient confidentiality rules he won't release the guys name or anything he says they took more photos and movies of the guy in the ER it's all really gross and I feel itchy just thinking about it. i notice some urban legends sites think it's all fake, I wonder what sort of proof would satisfy them? -- Dan Holliman | danh at gelatinous.com | AOL-IM ID - danhccs "Vengeance is mine!" - Hello Kitty ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Carlos Laviola From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Sun Mar 2 09:51:45 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: Message from Sam Phillips of "Sun, 02 Mar 2003 03:08:23 PST." <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <200303021751.h22HpgZ72775@mail0.rawbw.com> Sam Phillips wrote: > Embrace the scheme: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2003.02.24.15.25.41.618145%40abs > tractnonsense.com Schemix? I think this has already been done already, more or less: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?LispOs From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Sun Mar 2 11:58:54 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why waste your telnet port? Message-ID: <200303021958.h22JwqZ98276@mail0.rawbw.com> On freshmeat today: > blinkperl is a telnet server (written in Perl) which plays a > random (ASCII-Art) Blinkenlights-Movie if a telnet client connects. In > a properly configured system, you do not need a 'usual' telnet server > (because of the plaintext password transmission, ssh is better and > uses another port), so why not play ASCII-Art Movies on the telnet > port? They have a point. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sun Mar 2 12:01:40 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> Sam Phillips blabbed out loud: > Embrace the scheme: > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2003.02.24.15.25.41.618145%40abstractnonsense.com Yoicks! Exelsior! But, clearly, lisp seems to have gained the upper hand in Nick's current struggles, yet he is not forthcoming about it at all. As a friend, shouldn't I be concerned? -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sun Mar 2 12:53:11 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why waste your telnet port? In-Reply-To: <200303021958.h22JwqZ98276@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <200303021958.h22JwqZ98276@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <1046638391.ddd7d3f6763fa@webmail.spamcop.net> "J. M. Brenner" blabbed out loud: > They have a point. HEY! The point is that if you're taking up space at freakin' Stanford far more is expected of you around here than, "Gee, don't use telnet." Duh. -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Mar 2 14:26:33 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:10 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > But, clearly, lisp seems to have gained the upper hand in Nick's > current struggles, yet he is not forthcoming about it at all. As a > friend, shouldn't I be concerned? http://zork.net/motd/nick From dep at linuxandmain.com Sun Mar 2 17:04:07 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] a 404 for the wwp Message-ID: <200303022004.08121.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://www.infoshop.org/texts/wwp.html -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From carlos at laviola.org Sun Mar 2 17:29:20 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] a 404 for the wwp In-Reply-To: <200303022004.08121.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200303022004.08121.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030303012920.GA14415@laviola.org> On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 08:04:07PM -0500, dep wrote: > http://www.infoshop.org/texts/wwp.html That page exists! -- Carlos Laviola From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Sun Mar 2 18:10:47 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why waste your telnet port? In-Reply-To: Message from Bob Bernstein of "Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:53:11 EST." <1046638391.ddd7d3f6763fa@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <200303021958.h22JwqZ98276@mail0.rawbw.com> <1046638391.ddd7d3f6763fa@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <200303030210.h232AjZ71778@mail0.rawbw.com> Bob Bernstein wrote: > HEY! The point is that if you're taking up space at freakin' Stanford > far more is expected of you around here than, "Gee, don't use telnet." Is there any point in pointing out that the actual point is that since telent is pointless, you might as well put some pointless information out on the telent port, which might have a pointed effect on the pointy-headed that rattle that particular doorknob? No, I didn't think so. From radix42 at cox.net Sun Mar 2 22:40:28 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why waste your telnet port? In-Reply-To: <200303030210.h232AjZ71778@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <1046638391.ddd7d3f6763fa@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303021958.h22JwqZ98276@mail0.rawbw.com> <1046638391.ddd7d3f6763fa@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030302233914.00b4bea8@pop.west.cox.net> At 07:10 PM 3/2/2003, J. M. Brenner wrote: >Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > HEY! The point is that if you're taking up space at freakin' Stanford > > far more is expected of you around here than, "Gee, don't use telnet." > >Is there any point in pointing out that the actual point >is that since telent is pointless, you might as well put >some pointless information out on the telent port, which >might have a pointed effect on the pointy-headed that >rattle that particular doorknob? > >No, I didn't think so. Precisely, you have now drawn attention to yourself as interesting.... might be good, might be VERY VERY bad From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Mar 3 11:19:28 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> Message-ID: <1046719168.418fd8b96501d@webmail.spamcop.net> Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco blabbed out loud: > http://zork.net/motd/nick The wind bloweth where it lispeth. -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 3 14:31:49 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030303223149.GD2514@zork.net> So most of these spammers have been subscribing from hotmail accounts and THEN spamming. It's pretty interesting to watch. Fortunately, this list is immune to that domain. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- pete_bleix@hotmail.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- From apost at recalcitrant.org Mon Mar 3 16:26:40 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030304002640.GA20342@recalcitrant.org> * monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org [030302 14:32]: > > http://zork.net/motd/nick So why should I use scheme instead of ocaml? From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 3 16:44:50 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20030304002640.GA20342@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> <20030304002640.GA20342@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <20030304004450.GF2514@zork.net> begin Alan Post quotation: > So why should I use scheme instead of ocaml? What am I, Guy Kawasaki? Do your own goddamn research. From radix42 at cox.net Mon Mar 3 16:47:35 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20030304002640.GA20342@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030303174512.01b2a850@pop.west.cox.net> At 05:26 PM 3/3/2003, Alan Post wrote: >* monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org [030302 14:32]: > > > > http://zork.net/motd/nick > >So why should I use scheme instead of ocaml? Because a camel is too large to fit inside of your computer. A scheme, or plan as they are also known, is composed of information, which as you may be aware, can be expressed in bits, which your computer can hold plenty of. Now, a camel (that one you're talking about sounds Irish, no?) needs stables, stable boys (oh, you've already got those in there, huh), straw, etc., all of which probably won't fit inside of your computer. Now, maybe a midget pygmy o'caml, but that's just getting sick.... From sam at dasbistro.com Mon Mar 3 19:52:34 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030303174512.01b2a850@pop.west.cox.net> References: <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030303174512.01b2a850@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030304035233.GV10424@dasbistro.com> On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 05:47:35PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > Now, maybe a midget pygmy o'caml, but that's just getting sick.... M0D TH!$ UP!!!! -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 4 11:31:48 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] too much unstructured free time Message-ID: <20030304193147.GM2514@zork.net> http://freshmeat.net/projects/muzcat/?topic_id=42 > muZCat is Flate uncompression filter that can uncompress GZIP, ZIP, > and ZLIB (PS/FlateEncoded) files and concatenations of those. muZCat > is implemented in ANSI C, K&R C, Java, OC, Perl, Ruby, Python, ISO > Standard Pascal and PostScript. No external libraries (such as zlib) > are required. From aaronl at vitelus.com Tue Mar 4 11:53:43 2003 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] too much unstructured free time In-Reply-To: <20030304193147.GM2514@zork.net> References: <20030304193147.GM2514@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030304195343.GW9624@vitelus.com> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 11:31:48AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://freshmeat.net/projects/muzcat/?topic_id=42 > > muZCat is Flate uncompression filter that can uncompress GZIP, ZIP, > > and ZLIB (PS/FlateEncoded) files and concatenations of those. muZCat > > is implemented in ANSI C, K&R C, Java, OC, Perl, Ruby, Python, ISO > > Standard Pascal and PostScript. No external libraries (such as zlib) > > are required. It isn't available in scheme. Something is wrong. From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Tue Mar 4 13:50:14 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] too much unstructured free time In-Reply-To: <20030304193147.GM2514@zork.net> References: <20030304193147.GM2514@zork.net> Message-ID: <1046814613.2771.6.camel@biznatch> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 11:31, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://freshmeat.net/projects/muzcat/?topic_id=42 > > muZCat is Flate uncompression filter that can uncompress GZIP, ZIP, > > and ZLIB (PS/FlateEncoded) files and concatenations of those. muZCat > > is implemented in ANSI C, K&R C, Java, OC, Perl, Ruby, Python, ISO > > Standard Pascal and PostScript. ^^^^^^^^^^ That is great! Now I can use all those wasted cycles on my HP laserjet to do something useful. -tduffy -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 4 13:58:28 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] too much unstructured free time In-Reply-To: <1046814613.2771.6.camel@biznatch> References: <20030304193147.GM2514@zork.net> <1046814613.2771.6.camel@biznatch> Message-ID: <20030304215828.GB32419@zork.net> begin Tom Duffy quotation: > That is great! Now I can use all those wasted cycles on my HP > laserjet to do something useful. Self-decompressing postscript isn't such a bad idea, you know. From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 4 14:05:26 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20030304220526.GC32419@zork.net> He couldn't take the scheme. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- mukesh@random.engmath.dal.ca has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 4 20:02:46 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme Message-ID: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> Once you get good enough at scheme, you can do the "Lambda Burst": http://douglas.min.net/arcadia/lambdaburst.jpg From radix42 at cox.net Tue Mar 4 20:28:18 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme In-Reply-To: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030304212613.022d8ff8@pop.west.cox.net> At 09:02 PM 3/4/2003, Nick Moffitt wrote: >Once you get good enough at scheme, you can do the "Lambda Burst": > > http://douglas.min.net/arcadia/lambdaburst.jpg It's felt like that picture back in the day before decent editors, tracking down an unbalanced parenthesis in lisp (in the dark days before Scheme...or Christ even Common Lisp). From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Mar 5 05:38:48 2003 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (mr.bad@pigdog.org) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <1046719168.418fd8b96501d@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> <1046719168.418fd8b96501d@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <20030305133848.GA5128@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 02:19:28PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco > blabbed out loud: > > > http://zork.net/motd/nick > > The wind bloweth where it lispeth. ha ha blogger. ~Mr. Bad From zen at zork.net Wed Mar 5 07:02:18 2003 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme In-Reply-To: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> References: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030305150218.GA2050@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt uuencoded stream: > Once you get good enough at scheme, you can do the "Lambda Burst": > > http://douglas.min.net/arcadia/lambdaburst.jpg I'm SO glad you don't have a sound clip. -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 5 07:33:38 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] xedit in 4.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20030305133848.GA5128@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20030302015358.GA29650@zork.net> <1046576266.75ce264c4e83f@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302110823.GR10424@dasbistro.com> <1046635300.187d615bfdc0b@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030302222633.GD29650@zork.net> <1046719168.418fd8b96501d@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030305133848.GA5128@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20030305153338.GP32419@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > ha ha blogger. You are mistaken. THIS is a weblog: http://flynn.zork.net/cl/?showtime=yes&tz=PST8PDT&limit=150 motd is just a diary/BBS. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 5 07:34:20 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme In-Reply-To: <20030305150218.GA2050@zork.net> References: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> <20030305150218.GA2050@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030305153420.GQ32419@zork.net> begin Zen-O-Phobia quotation: > begin Nick Moffitt uuencoded stream: > > Once you get good enough at scheme, you can do the "Lambda Burst": > > > > http://douglas.min.net/arcadia/lambdaburst.jpg > > I'm SO glad you don't have a sound clip. http://douglas.min.net/arcadia/horteka.mp3 From zen at zork.net Wed Mar 5 08:11:54 2003 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme In-Reply-To: <20030305153420.GQ32419@zork.net> References: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> <20030305150218.GA2050@zork.net> <20030305153420.GQ32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030305161154.GA16448@zork.net> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco uuencoded stream: > > I'm SO glad you don't have a sound clip. > > http://douglas.min.net/arcadia/horteka.mp3 I am equally grateful that my sond all of a sudden stopped working, with no explanation or solution in sight. I am also grateful that that is one of the two or three pleasant sounds in Skies of Arcadia, as opposed to Aika saying "Lambda Burst", which is rather like having an eight-year-old spit pudding into your ear. -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From bker at yage.net Wed Mar 5 06:20:28 2003 From: bker at yage.net (bker@yage.net) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] too much unstructured free time In-Reply-To: <20030304215828.GB32419@zork.net> References: <20030304193147.GM2514@zork.net> <1046814613.2771.6.camel@biznatch> <20030304215828.GB32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030305142028.GA973@localhost.localdomain> Jah Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Self-decompressing postscript isn't such a bad idea, you know. It is when your printer only has two or three MB's of RAM. -- "When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist." -- Archbishop Helder Camara, Brazilian liberation theologist From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 5 13:08:31 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme In-Reply-To: <20030305161154.GA16448@zork.net> References: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> <20030305150218.GA2050@zork.net> <20030305153420.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030305161154.GA16448@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030305210831.GR32419@zork.net> begin Zen-O-Phobia quotation: > I am also grateful that that is one of the two or three > pleasant sounds in Skies of Arcadia, as opposed to Aika saying > "Lambda Burst", which is rather like having an eight-year-old spit > pudding into your ear. ((lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))) (quote (lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))))) From neale at woozle.org Wed Mar 5 13:32:43 2003 From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme In-Reply-To: <20030305210831.GR32419@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's message of "Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:08:31 -0800") References: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> <20030305150218.GA2050@zork.net> <20030305153420.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030305161154.GA16448@zork.net> <20030305210831.GR32419@zork.net> Message-ID: Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: > ((lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))) > (quote (lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))))) Uh-huh. And exactly what about scheme makes it a bitchin' language, again? -- If you continue to eat meat, then the carnivores have already won. -- #2 of Berkeley From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 5 13:38:00 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme In-Reply-To: References: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> <20030305150218.GA2050@zork.net> <20030305153420.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030305161154.GA16448@zork.net> <20030305210831.GR32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030305213759.GT32419@zork.net> begin Neale Pickett quotation: > Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco > writes: > > > ((lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))) > > (quote (lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))))) > > Uh-huh. And exactly what about scheme makes it a bitchin' language, > again? For starters, the fact that that's about as obfuscated as it gets -- that's just a quine, after all. From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Wed Mar 5 15:29:20 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (CEO of Brooklyn) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com>; from SoleFounderofNYFairUsehttp on Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 17:56:59 -0500 References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/05/international/middleeast/05CND-ARAB.html Arab Conference Degenerates Into a Shouting Match By JANE PERLEZ DOHA, Qatar, March 5 ? A conference of Muslim nations hastily called for what was described as a last attempt by the Islamic world to help avert a war against Iraq degenerated into a shouting match today. The leaders failed to publicly reconsider a proposal calling on Saddam Hussein to go into exile, although the idea first broached several days ago by the United Arab Emirates was the buzz of the corridors. At the end of the conference, the Emirates Information Minister, Sheik Abdullah Zayed al-Nahyan, who was informally pushing the exile idea today, said in an interview, "Unless the Iraqis come up with a miracle, we don't think we can avert war." The underlying tensions erupted in the elegant Ritz Carlton hotel ballroom when the vice chairman of Iraq's Revolutionary Command Council, Izzat Ibrahim, told the Kuwaiti minister of state for foreign affairs, Mohammed Sabah al-Salem al-Sabah, to "shut up, you monkey." The Iraqi followed up with an Arab epithet, "Curse be upon your mustache, you traitor." Sole Founder of NY Fair Use and NYLXS -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 5 15:37:51 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030305233751.GV32419@zork.net> begin Rubn I Safir quotation: > Arab Conference Degenerates Into a Shouting Match Oh look, my giveashit just snapped in two. Try later. From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Wed Mar 5 15:41:34 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030305234134.GA14266@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I just can't ...believe.... that they would curse like that at the Ritz Carlton.... I mean - what is wrong with them! Ruben > > The underlying tensions erupted in the elegant Ritz Carlton hotel > ballroom when the vice chairman of Iraq's Revolutionary Command Council, > Izzat Ibrahim, told the Kuwaiti minister of state for foreign affairs, > Mohammed Sabah al-Salem al-Sabah, to "shut up, you monkey." > > The Iraqi followed up with an Arab epithet, "Curse be upon your > mustache, you traitor." > > > Sole Founder of NY Fair Use and NYLXS > -- > __________________________ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > __________________________ > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and > articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown > Brooklyn.... > > 1-718-382-0585 > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From squinky at dasbistro.com Wed Mar 5 16:18:42 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why you should learn scheme In-Reply-To: <20030305213759.GT32419@zork.net> References: <20030305040246.GM32419@zork.net> <20030305150218.GA2050@zork.net> <20030305153420.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030305161154.GA16448@zork.net> <20030305210831.GR32419@zork.net> <20030305213759.GT32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030306001842.GC18202@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:38:00PM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > For starters, the fact that that's about as obfuscated as it > gets -- that's just a quine, after all. I'll remember that next time I contract malaria. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Wed Mar 5 16:19:36 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: Message from Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco of "Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:37:51 PST." <20030305233751.GV32419@zork.net> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305233751.GV32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303060019.h260JbJ38168@mail0.rawbw.com> Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Rubn I Safir quotation: > > Arab Conference Degenerates Into a Shouting Match > > Oh look, my giveashit just snapped in two. Try later. Did you ever get the weird feeling that you're the last human being in a world inhabited by bots? From squinky at dasbistro.com Wed Mar 5 16:23:04 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: <200303060019.h260JbJ38168@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305233751.GV32419@zork.net> <200303060019.h260JbJ38168@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030306002304.GD18202@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 04:19:36PM -0800, J. M. Brenner wrote: > Did you ever get the weird feeling that you're the last > human being in a world inhabited by bots? Spare me your solipsism, you stupid bot. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Mar 5 16:40:00 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: <200303060019.h260JbJ38168@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305233751.GV32419@zork.net> <200303060019.h260JbJ38168@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030306004000.GD20781@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence J. M. Brenner quotation: > Did you ever get the weird feeling that you're the last > human being in a world inhabited by bots? Reply hazy, ask again later. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ZpjfjLHcIq3dHxYRAiwYAJ99fJ57d3tprmcWLQU5zmEhRCBABACgjlb0 6KpZJ7bA38ov5/etHfjGMWs= =mqtd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bker at yage.net Wed Mar 5 19:12:02 2003 From: bker at yage.net (bker@yage.net) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: <20030305233751.GV32419@zork.net> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305233751.GV32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030306031202.GB973@localhost.localdomain> Teh Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Oh look, my giveashit just snapped in two. Try later. I agree, Lisp is much more important. -- "When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist." -- Archbishop Helder Camara, Brazilian liberation theologist From simm at zork.net Wed Mar 5 21:07:41 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030306050741.GB5503@zork.net> begin CEO of Brooklyn quotation: > Arab Conference Degenerates Into a Shouting Match Uhh, this is neither news for nerds, nor stuff that matters. whats this mailing list coming to?! -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Wed Mar 5 21:13:36 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: Message from Simm Al-Aekrib of "Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:07:41 PST." <20030306050741.GB5503@zork.net> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030306050741.GB5503@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303060513.h265DfJ15763@mail0.rawbw.com> Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > begin CEO of Brooklyn quotation: > > Arab Conference Degenerates Into a Shouting Match > > Uhh, this is neither news for nerds, nor stuff that matters. > whats this mailing list coming to?! "shut up, you monkey." From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Mar 5 21:20:12 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: <20030306050741.GB5503@zork.net> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030306050741.GB5503@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030306052012.GA15093@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 09:07:41PM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > Uhh, this is neither news for nerds, nor stuff that matters. So? Slashdot it isn't, praise the Lord. -- Bob Bernstein From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Mar 5 22:05:30 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tuxedo junction Message-ID: <20030306060530.GB15093@localhost.localdomain> Gleaned from gnu.misc.discuss: (intelligent comments are always welcome) >From cbbrowne@acm.org Thu Mar 6 01:00:33 2003 Path: news2.east.cox.net!cox.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!hse-mtl-ppp75927.qc.sympatico.CA!not-for-mail From: Christopher Browne Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: [OT] What happened to tuxedo.org? Date: 2 Mar 2003 18:23:11 GMT Organization: cbbrowne Computing Inc Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: hse-mtl-ppp75927.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.214.180) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1046629391 60145959 64.229.214.180 (16 [125932]) X-Home-Page: http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/ X-Affero: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=cbbrowne X-Emacs-Acronym: Emacs May Alienate Clients and Supporters Microsoft: With our software, there's no limit to what you can't do! X-Uboat-Death-Message: BOMBED BY IRC SERVER. SINKING. U-463. X-Draft-From: ("nntp+chvatal:gnu.misc.discuss" 6974) Xref: cox.net gnu.misc.discuss:119541 X-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 13:23:12 EST (news2.east.cox.net) In an attempt to throw the authorities off his trail, "Aaron M. Renn" transmitted: > In article , Christopher > Browne wrote: >>> seraching the showkey source I wound up on tuxedo.org. But all it does is >>> randomly redirect to other free software sites regardless of the page >>> requested! No showkey, jargon file also gone. WTF?! >> >> Eric Raymond has moved his site to "catb.org," and has configured >> tuxedo.org to do the random redirects. (I don't understand why >> either.) >> >> tuxedo.org will expire next week, so the strangeness will go away, >> most likely to be replaced by tuxedo.org no longer resolving... > > Most likely replaced by tuxedo.org resolving to a pr0n site. One > would presume that erstwhile multi-mega-millionaire Raymond would > have socked enough away to pay his domain fees......... That's part of the "doesn't make sense." There's not so much money involved that this is a significant cost. Raymond has paid for "catb.org," so it's not as if he's too broke to pay for domain registration fees... I will be watching with keen interest to what happens because it is all pretty bizarrely curious. -- If this was helpful, rate me http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/unix.html `I am convinced that interactive systems will never displace batch systems for many applications.' - Brooks, _The Mythical Man-Month_ (And this does indeed seem true. MVS/CICS systems have *NOT* gone away...) -- Bob Bernstein From asf at acm.org Wed Mar 5 22:34:10 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030306050741.GB5503@zork.net> <200303060513.h265DfJ15763@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <87zno9xau5.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-05, J. M. Brenner wrote: >> Uhh, this is neither news for nerds, nor stuff that matters. >> whats this mailing list coming to?! > > "shut up, you monkey." "And praise your porn star haircut." -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Thu Mar 6 04:19:28 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diplomacy fails in the Middle East! In-Reply-To: Message from Andreas Fuchs of "Thu, 06 Mar 2003 07:34:10 +0100." <87zno9xau5.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <20030212215439.GE30713@zork.net> <1045091732.31844.11.camel@biznatch> <20030212232245.GA543@panax.com> <20030305175659.A13421@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030305182920.A14015@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030306050741.GB5503@zork.net> <200303060513.h265DfJ15763@mail0.rawbw.com> <87zno9xau5.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <200303061219.h26CJSJ06705@mail0.rawbw.com> Andreas Fuchs wrote: > J. M. Brenner wrote: > >> Uhh, this is neither news for nerds, nor stuff that matters. > >> whats this mailing list coming to?! > > > > "shut up, you monkey." > > "And praise your porn star haircut." Would that be the Kojack or the Hitler? From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Mar 6 13:53:02 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Read my lips Message-ID: Crackmonkey friends and Slashdot trolls, I don't know if the IP rights were cleared accordingly, but this is hilarious no matter the legal technicalities: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/bushblair_endlesslove.mov ...if you enjoyed that, here is some more: http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=3015 (Very talented young Swede makes them.) I especially recommend the Hitler clip .-) Regards, Mikael Pawlo _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 6 14:47:34 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents Message-ID: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> http://www.ssc.com/pipermail/atc/2003-March/000034.html > Novell has assigned away only seven patents since 1980, when the > CASSIS2 records begin: two to Corel, one to Interlogis Inc. and > three to Volera Inc. Caldera has never had a patent assigned to it. > > So, if SCO is interested in throwing the first stone in a licensing > war, all they have to play with is copyright on UNIX source code. > The only people who won't have to worry are GNU and Linux > developers, distributors and users. The GNU Project has kept itself > scrupulously clean of UNIX source code "taint" since the beginning, > and Linux is a rewrite from scratch, not a direct descendant of > UNIX, as is almost every other common OS. The threat to Linux from > this SCOsource deal would have been patents, because a patent holder > can sue someone who independently arrived at the same idea. The real question now is what SCO *actually* plans to do. From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Mar 6 13:53:02 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Read my lips Message-ID: Crackmonkey friends and Slashdot trolls, I don't know if the IP rights were cleared accordingly, but this is hilarious no matter the legal technicalities: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/bushblair_endlesslove.mov ...if you enjoyed that, here is some more: http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=3015 (Very talented young Swede makes them.) I especially recommend the Hitler clip .-) Regards, Mikael Pawlo _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 6 15:56:05 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Read my lips In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030306235604.GD32419@zork.net> Your goddamn dutch mail relay is sending shit out twice. From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Mar 6 15:59:29 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030306235928.GB17927@zgp.org> begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:47:34PM -0800: > The real question now is what SCO *actually* plans to do. Look for loopholes in the Novell/UCB settlement? http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/1994/02/06/0006.html -- Don Marti Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly http://zgp.org/~dmarti demanding DMCA reform is going to get the dmarti@zgp.org injustice of the DMCA in front of the next KG6INA jury. Make noise. It counts. From asf at acm.org Thu Mar 6 15:59:12 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Read my lips References: Message-ID: <87fzq0xd0v.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-06, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > Subject: Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Read my lips As you can see from previous threads, this should be labeled "Read my lisp" to attract wide attention. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Mar 6 16:50:52 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Read my lips In-Reply-To: <87fzq0xd0v.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <87fzq0xd0v.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <1046998252.685fd32fc3c78@webmail.spamcop.net> Andreas Fuchs blabbed out loud: > As you can see from previous threads, this should be labeled "Read my > lisp" to attract wide attention. "...use The Lisp Luke." -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Mar 6 19:19:28 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <20030306235928.GB17927@zgp.org> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> <20030306235928.GB17927@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20030307031928.GJ17927@zgp.org> begin Don Marti quotation of Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:59:29PM -0800: > begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:47:34PM -0800: > > > The real question now is what SCO *actually* plans to do. > > Look for loopholes in the Novell/UCB settlement? > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/1994/02/06/0006.html So I was wrong... http://www.forbes.com/home_asia/2003/03/06/cs_qh_0306unix.html -- Don Marti Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly http://zgp.org/~dmarti demanding DMCA reform is going to get the dmarti@zgp.org injustice of the DMCA in front of the next KG6INA jury. Make noise. It counts. From dep at linuxandmain.com Thu Mar 6 19:33:00 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:11 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <20030307031928.GJ17927@zgp.org> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> <20030306235928.GB17927@zgp.org> <20030307031928.GJ17927@zgp.org> Message-ID: <200303062233.00145.dep@linuxandmain.com> didja see this shit? from infoworld. http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/03/06/HNsco_1.html Unix developer The SCO Group has filed a law suit against IBM, charging it with misappropriation of trade secrets, unfair competition and other illegal actions related to IBM's Linux business. The suit seeks at least US$1 billion in damages. IBM obtained its Unix license in 1985 from AT&T, which developed the operating system, SCO said in a statement. In 1995 SCO purchased the rights and ownership of Unix and so became the successor to the Unix licenses doled out by AT&T to IBM, Hewlett-Packard and others, SCO said. In its suit filed Thursday in the State Court of Utah, SCO alleges that IBM tried to destroy the economic value of Unix, particularly Unix on Intel-based servers, in order to benefit its own Linux services business. The suit charges IBM with misappropriation of trade secrets, tortious interference, unfair competition and breach of contract, SCO said. SCO, in Lindon, Utah , also said it sent a letter to IBM demanding that it cease its allegedly anticompetitive practices. If IBM doesn't met it's demands within 100 days of receiving the letter, SCO said it has a right to revoke IBM's license for AIX Unix operating system. IBM could not immediately be reached for comment late Thursday. SCO claims in its suit to have been injured in the marketplace by IBM?s actions and has asked the court for damages of at least $1 billion, with the amount to be proven at a trial. SCO announced in January that it had hired a law firm to investigate possible violations of its intellectual property. ?SCO is in the enviable position of owning the UNIX operating system,? Darl McBride, president and CEO of SCO, said in the company's statement. The company believes it has "a compelling case against IBM," he said. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From monkey at someplace.us Thu Mar 6 20:00:29 2003 From: monkey at someplace.us (Monkey from the other side of the jungle) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <200303062233.00145.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> <20030306235928.GB17927@zgp.org> <20030307031928.GJ17927@zgp.org> <200303062233.00145.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <1047009628.3096.25173.camel@dante> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 22:33, dep wrote: > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/03/06/HNsco_1.html > The suit seeks at least US$1 billion in damages. > > ?SCO is in the enviable position of owning the UNIX operating system,? > Darl McBride, president and CEO of SCO, said in the company's > statement. The company believes it has "a compelling case against > IBM," he said. Who was SCO again? I've got a dollar, isn't that enough to buy what's left of them and euthanize it? Boies also has a mixed track record; while he nailed Microsoft, he also represented Napster in its failed attempt to distribute copyrighted music. He also worked for Al Gore in the former vice president's failed effort to contest the results of the 2000 presidential election. Choose your own ending! A. Ha ha. David Boies. Yeah, he nailed Microsoft all right. B. Who was Boies again? From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Mar 6 20:20:45 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <1047009628.3096.25173.camel@dante> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> <20030306235928.GB17927@zgp.org> <20030307031928.GJ17927@zgp.org> <200303062233.00145.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1047009628.3096.25173.camel@dante> Message-ID: <1047010845.f957459eb94aa@webmail.spamcop.net> Monkey from the other side of the jungle blabbed out loud: > Ha ha. David Boies. davidboies A nice word to add to hangman. -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Thu Mar 6 22:55:12 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Read my lips In-Reply-To: <20030306235604.GD32419@zork.net> References: <20030306235604.GD32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <87y93rzmwf.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: > Your goddamn dutch mail relay is sending shit out twice. In accordance with the rest of this thread, it's appropriate to point out that thanks to Lisp (gnus) I have not seen the double post. - erik -- erik bourget | "Sleep! That's where I'm a viking!" ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | From junasts at subdimension.com Fri Mar 7 02:37:56 2003 From: junasts at subdimension.com (junasts@subdimension.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Yay JOAP Yay! Message-ID: <20030307103756.GA6491@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Yay! http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0075.html Beaujolais! ~LJS From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Fri Mar 7 06:16:41 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Yay JOAP Yay! In-Reply-To: <20030307103756.GA6491@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20030307103756.GA6491@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <877kbb2ree.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> junasts@subdimension.com writes: > Yay! > > http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0075.html > > Beaujolais! > > ~LJS Here at McGill, we've got a class that is working on having a separate classroom that watches a projector screen that mimics the display of the main computer in the main classroom (displaying biology slides or whatever). The duo hired to make it happen glossed over VNC and decided to use what they knew best ... ... MSN Messenger. Apparently it's been over-engineered to the point that you can share desktops with it. The cool thing about that is that when MSN service is poor (as happens every few days), the class cannot continue. Hopefully, JOAP can promote more of this kind of square-peg-in-round-hole systems design. Go JOAP! -- erik bourget | "Sleep! That's where I'm a viking!" ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Fri Mar 7 15:05:30 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The Ring of the War Lords Message-ID: <1047078330.8436.5.camel@biznatch> http://winstars.free.fr/english/images/bush/RingLords2b_lg_qual60.jpg -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From jdub at perkypants.org Sat Mar 8 05:01:07 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Pitbull on the pantleg... Message-ID: <20030308130107.GA23924@lazarus> PITBULL ON THE PANTLEG OF PEACE http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/random/pitbull-of-peace.jpg - Jeff -- "When's the last time you heard of the police having to intervene at an antiquarian book riot?" - Raph Levien From ageddyn at minitru.org Sat Mar 8 13:54:21 2003 From: ageddyn at minitru.org (Dkr. Armand Geddyn) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <1047010845.f957459eb94aa@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> <1047009628.3096.25173.camel@dante> <1047010845.f957459eb94aa@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <20030308215421.KWKZ20598.fe3@there> Wait, what's this about SCO not wearing pants? I don't get it. -- "On the moon, we have evolved beyond rules... and manners." The Ministry of Truth, Austin, TX | http://www.minitru.org From carlos at laviola.org Sat Mar 8 14:08:39 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Yay JOAP Yay! In-Reply-To: <877kbb2ree.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> References: <20030307103756.GA6491@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <877kbb2ree.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Message-ID: <20030308220839.GA828@laviola.org> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:16:41AM -0500, Erik Bourget wrote: > Hopefully, JOAP can promote more of this kind of square-peg-in-round-hole > systems design. Go JOAP! You can't local run MSN servers, but you can run Jabber servers. If VNC is the best alternative for sharing desktops, then we're all doomed, because it sucks. -- Carlos Laviola From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Sat Mar 8 14:52:23 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Yay JOAP Yay! In-Reply-To: <20030308220839.GA828@laviola.org> References: <20030307103756.GA6491@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <877kbb2ree.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030308220839.GA828@laviola.org> Message-ID: <87isutv5co.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> Carlos Laviola writes: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:16:41AM -0500, Erik Bourget wrote: >> Hopefully, JOAP can promote more of this kind of square-peg-in-round-hole >> systems design. Go JOAP! > > You can't local run MSN servers, but you can run Jabber servers. > > If VNC is the best alternative for sharing desktops, then we're all > doomed, because it sucks. Over a 100mbit link, it's not so bad. And this is one room to the next so that's not really a problem. -- erik bourget | "Sleep! That's where I'm a viking!" ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | From carlos at laviola.org Sat Mar 8 18:23:23 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Yay JOAP Yay! In-Reply-To: <87isutv5co.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> References: <20030307103756.GA6491@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <877kbb2ree.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030308220839.GA828@laviola.org> <87isutv5co.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20030309022323.GA7399@laviola.org> On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:52:23PM -0500, Erik Bourget wrote: > Carlos Laviola writes: > > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:16:41AM -0500, Erik Bourget wrote: > >> Hopefully, JOAP can promote more of this kind of square-peg-in-round-hole > >> systems design. Go JOAP! > > > > You can't local run MSN servers, but you can run Jabber servers. > > > > If VNC is the best alternative for sharing desktops, then we're all > > doomed, because it sucks. > > Over a 100mbit link, it's not so bad. And this is one room to the next so > that's not really a problem. Yeah, I suppose. I still can't believe I said "local run", though. -- Carlos Laviola From joseph at nuasis.com Sat Mar 8 18:42:57 2003 From: joseph at nuasis.com (joseph@nuasis.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <20030308215421.KWKZ20598.fe3@there> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> <1047009628.3096.25173.camel@dante> <1047010845.f957459eb94aa@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030308215421.KWKZ20598.fe3@there> Message-ID: <3E6AAA31.5090500@nuasis.com> Dkr. Armand Geddyn wrote: >I don't get it. > That's pretty obvious. From ageddyn at minitru.org Sat Mar 8 19:38:11 2003 From: ageddyn at minitru.org (Dkr. Armand Geddyn) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <3E6AAA31.5090500@nuasis.com> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> <20030308215421.KWKZ20598.fe3@there> <3E6AAA31.5090500@nuasis.com> Message-ID: <20030309033811.NKSK17738.fe1@there> joseph@nuasis.com wrote: > Dkr. Armand Geddyn wrote: > >I don't get it. > > That's pretty obvious. You wound me. -- "On the moon, we have evolved beyond rules... and manners." The Ministry of Truth, Austin, TX | http://www.minitru.org From joseph at nuasis.com Sun Mar 9 01:51:00 2003 From: joseph at nuasis.com (joseph@nuasis.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SCO Has no Patents In-Reply-To: <20030309033811.NKSK17738.fe1@there> References: <20030306224734.GA32419@zork.net> <20030308215421.KWKZ20598.fe3@there> <3E6AAA31.5090500@nuasis.com> <20030309033811.NKSK17738.fe1@there> Message-ID: <3E6B0E84.8010304@nuasis.com> Dkr. Armand Geddyn wrote: >joseph@nuasis.com wrote: > > >>Dkr. Armand Geddyn wrote: >> >> >>>I don't get it. >>> >>> >>That's pretty obvious. >> >> > >You wound me. > That's what you get for not wearing pants. From sam at dasbistro.com Sun Mar 9 16:56:59 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Yay JOAP Yay! In-Reply-To: <20030307103756.GA6491@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20030307103756.GA6491@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20030310005659.GB17469@dasbistro.com> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:37:56AM -0800, junasts@subdimension.com wrote: > Yay! > > http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0075.html Dude, when will you realize that jabber is just real bad xml-pr0n. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Mar 10 08:32:16 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check Message-ID: <20030310163216.GA27910@localhost.localdomain> Ok. It's Monday, which sucks. I'm cranky, and I'm not afraid to let everyone and anyone know about it. So here goes: Identify the author of these words: "What if [Saddam] fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction? ... Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal." Jeff Waugh, because of his handicap, will receive extra credit if he can get it right! That's only fair, right? -- Bob Bernstein From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Mar 10 08:34:14 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 Message-ID: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> Oh, I almost forgot: exactly what is it I need Gnome for? I mean, all these crappy-ass little libs and stuff allow me to do just what, that I could not do without them? Is it the cool apps? The cool interface? What? -- Bob Bernstein From necco at relst8.net Mon Mar 10 08:56:27 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:34:14AM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Oh, I almost forgot: exactly what is it I need Gnome for? I mean, all > these crappy-ass little libs and stuff allow me to do just what, that > I could not do without them? > > Is it the cool apps? The cool interface? What? > Noone really needs GNome, howver, GTK+ (the gimp toolkit and what gnome is based on) is required for abunch of programmes. Gnome, the desktop environment is too bloated and bulky, IMO. (only slightly better than KDE becuase it's built with pride in C) Fluxbox is my personal weapon of choice when i'm forced to get out of CLI -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- Necco and the Loup - http://www.relst8.net | From radix42 at cox.net Mon Mar 10 09:03:46 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check In-Reply-To: <20030310163216.GA27910@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030310100317.025166d8@pop.west.cox.net> At 09:32 AM 3/10/2003, Bob Bernstein wrote: >Ok. It's Monday, which sucks. I'm cranky, and I'm not afraid to let >everyone and anyone know about it. So here goes: > >Identify the author of these words: > > "What if [Saddam] fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take > some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities > to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction? ... Well, > he will conclude that the international community has lost its > will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to > rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some > way, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal." > >Jeff Waugh, because of his handicap, will receive extra credit if he >can get it right! That's only fair, right? That would be Bill Clinton around 1998, no? From monkey at someplace.us Mon Mar 10 09:04:38 2003 From: monkey at someplace.us (Monkey from the other side of the jungle) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1047315877.23713.77.camel@dante> On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 11:34, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Oh, I almost forgot: exactly what is it I need Gnome for? I mean, all > these crappy-ass little libs and stuff allow me to do just what, that > I could not do without them? Did your duck rupture again this morning? From henrik at enberg.org Mon Mar 10 09:08:42 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:34:14 -0500") References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <878yvn409x.fsf@enberg.org> Bob Bernstein writes: > Oh, I almost forgot: exactly what is it I need Gnome for? I mean, all > these crappy-ass little libs and stuff allow me to do just what, that > I could not do without them? > > Is it the cool apps? The cool interface? What? The primary function of GNOME is to make kewl-azz screenshotz to impress your IRC buddies. The secondary function is to let programming nerds who knows less about the human psyche than a 14 yro girl become usability experts overnight. From apost at recalcitrant.org Mon Mar 10 09:19:55 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030310171955.GE14368@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030310 08:40]: > Oh, I almost forgot: exactly what is it I need Gnome for? I mean, all > these crappy-ass little libs and stuff allow me to do just what, that > I could not do without them? You need gnome so you can embed SPREADSHEETS in your EMAIL MESSAGES!!! From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Mar 10 09:59:14 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <878yvn409x.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <878yvn409x.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030310175914.GB309@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:08:42PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote: > The primary function of GNOME is to make kewl-azz screenshotz to impress > your IRC buddies. ha ha IRC. > The secondary function is to let programming nerds who knows less about > the human psyche than a 14 yro girl become usability experts overnight. Just as I suspected. -- Bob Bernstein From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Mon Mar 10 10:03:15 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: reality check 2 In-Reply-To: Message from Henrik Enberg of "Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:08:42 +0100." <878yvn409x.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <878yvn409x.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200303101802.h2AI2rT73615@mail0.rawbw.com> Henrik Enberg wrote: > The primary function of GNOME is to make kewl-azz > screenshotz to impress your IRC buddies. > > The secondary function is to let programming nerds who > knows less about the human psyche than a 14 yro girl > become usability experts overnight. There are some 14 year old girls out there you'd best keep your psyche away from, or you'll learn something about "usability". From aelmore at interwoven.com Mon Mar 10 11:17:43 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> Message-ID: <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:56:27AM -0500, Loki Ambrodious von Esling wrote: > (only slightly better than KDE becuase it's built with pride in C) Nothing is more fun than learning Yet Another Object Model in C. Why *is* Gnome written in C anyway? From sayler at speedsite.com Mon Mar 10 12:20:25 2003 From: sayler at speedsite.com (Matthew Sayler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <20030310202025.GB1231@cesum.speedsite.com> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:17:43AM -0800, Andrew Elmore wrote: > > (only slightly better than KDE becuase it's built with pride in C) > > Nothing is more fun than learning Yet Another Object Model in C. > > Why *is* Gnome written in C anyway? Because assembler isn't portable? Matt -- /* Matt Sayler -- Sr. Network Engineer, Speedsite Online * (773) 324-2954 -- sayler@speedsite.com */ From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Mon Mar 10 12:42:10 2003 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:17:43 PST." <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <200303102042.h2AKgAMn007809@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:17:43 PST, Andrew Elmore said: > Why *is* Gnome written in C anyway? Because the Scheme and Java compilers sucked even worse, and they couldn't find an open-source Jovial compiler. From jazze at mail.fairfield.edu Tue Mar 11 13:16:48 2003 From: jazze at mail.fairfield.edu (Jason Azze) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? Message-ID: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> This is a message from a long-time lurker who has noticed a drop in the quality of the list's chit-chat of late. It is not meant to improve the quality of said chit-chat. In fact it is a blatant troll, in which I make reference to people that I don't know and things that I don't fully understand in order to sound smart and fit in. I like to hear the sound of my own typing. Please ignore me. Which one would win in a fight? RMS vs. ESR Mr. Bad vs. Steven Hawking Folk Dancing vs. Aikido Rick Moen vs. DJB OSPF vs. RIP Phil Collins vs. Peter Gabriel Perl vs. Python Don Saklad vs. Any BPL Reference Librarian Lojban vs. Esperanto Apples vs. Oranges Miles Nordin vs. A Model M Keyboard Frame Lock vs. Liner Lock Blog vs. Diary Thanks for your time. -- Jason Azze From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 10 13:25:05 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> begin Andrew Elmore quotation: > Nothing is more fun than learning Yet Another Object Model in C. JWZ once described C++ as "The PDP-11 assembler that thinks it's an object system!" From thesubjugator at subjugation.org Mon Mar 10 13:25:53 2003 From: thesubjugator at subjugation.org (Subjugator of Port Jefferson and Conqueror of Long Island) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? In-Reply-To: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> Message-ID: <1047331552.23712.8954.camel@dante> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 16:16, Jason Azze wrote: > This is a message from a long-time lurker who has noticed a drop in the > quality of the list's chit-chat of late. > Which one would win in a fight? This is why you're not on the replacement list. From jays at panix.com Mon Mar 10 13:43:04 2003 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? In-Reply-To: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> Message-ID: <20030310214303.GA21742@panix.com> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:16:48PM -0500, Jason Azze wrote: < ... /> > Which one would win in a fight? > > RMS vs. ESR > Mr. Bad vs. Steven Hawking > Folk Dancing vs. Aikido > Rick Moen vs. DJB > OSPF vs. RIP > Phil Collins vs. Peter Gabriel > Perl vs. Python > Don Saklad vs. Any BPL Reference Librarian I think that Don Saklad would never "fight" any librarian over any policy unless the librarian were the Head Librarian and the policy lay within the sphere of final unappealable decision by the Head Librarian alone. Don Saklad and the BPL have appeared in several score legal actions versus each other. I am not sure of the final disposition of all filings today, but a few years ago, in the cases then abjudicated, Don Saklad had prevailed entirely, except for one action. The one action was a lesser action and I believe that no harm came to Don Saklad nor to any librarian nor to any patron nor to any citizen as a result of the decision. oo--JS. From necco at relst8.net Mon Mar 10 14:10:41 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? In-Reply-To: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> Message-ID: <20030310221041.GA26899@relst8.net> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:16:48PM -0500, Jason Azze wrote: > Which one would win in a fight? > > RMS vs. ESR I imagine RMS's endless political banter would bore even ESR to death. Or he'd probably meditate through it. > Mr. Bad vs. Steven Hawkinga Robots win every time > Phil Collins vs. Peter Gabriel well... Collins' last album sucked alot more than Gabriel's. > Perl vs. Python Camel squases snake, +2 experiance! > Apples vs. Oranges a fight like that is just like comparing INTERCAL to Visual Basic... > Miles Nordin vs. A Model M Keyboard MOdel M > *... this is an easy fight > Blog vs. Diary > livejournal? -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- Necco and the Loup - http://www.relst8.net | From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Mon Mar 10 14:15:30 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:12 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <200303102042.h2AKgAMn007809@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > Because the Scheme and Java compilers sucked even worse, and they couldn't > find an open-source Jovial compiler. http://www.go-mono.com/c-sharp.html -- "If there's something wrong, I'm outraged by it, but if there is nothing wrong, then I have no problem with it." -- Gavin Newsom From sam at dasbistro.com Mon Mar 10 14:35:35 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <878yvn409x.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <878yvn409x.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030310223535.GD17469@dasbistro.com> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:08:42PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote: > The primary function of GNOME is to make kewl-azz screenshotz to impress > your IRC buddies. d00d those aren't your IRC buddies! They're DDOS zombies! And they're behind you! Right now! http://zork.net/pipermail/lnx-bbc-devel/2003-March/003068.html -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Mar 10 15:33:07 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? In-Reply-To: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> Message-ID: <20030310233307.GA25957@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Jason Azze quotation: > Which one would win in a fight? > > RMS vs. ESR > Mr. Bad vs. Steven Hawking Neither, their acid-spitting giant robots would fight to a draw. > Folk Dancing vs. Aikido Well, the folk dancing would be all "Paranaue, paranaue, parana." and the Akido would just be standing there laughing, but then it would turn out that that the folk dancing in question was actually the Brazilian art of Capoeira and it would whip out monkey flips and Ponteiras and Armadas and Rasteras and then the Akido would be like "Holy Shit!" and run away. > Rick Moen vs. DJB Didn't Rick Moen already win? > OSPF vs. RIP > Phil Collins vs. Peter Gabriel > Perl vs. Python apt-get install ruby > Don Saklad vs. Any BPL Reference Librarian > Lojban vs. Esperanto First Lojban would be all like "I've got predicate logic!", and then Esperanto would be like "I'm based on a variety of European languages!" and then Lojban would be all "Oh yeah? Well I'm based of six different languages from around the world!" And then Esperanto would be all "Only your gismu!" and then Klingon would show up and Lojban and Esperanto would put their differences aside and kick Klingon's ass. > Apples vs. Oranges In a tussle, the Orange's thick skin would give it the extra edge needed to emerge victorious. > Miles Nordin vs. A Model M Keyboard No contest. > Frame Lock vs. Liner Lock > Blog vs. Diary ha ha ha ha - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+bSBfjLHcIq3dHxYRAkfcAKDLvJ6bFMsa8l03N8pB2+rLzNm9RgCePjB5 H1e/swGQo83fpVT4d9ChP6w= =lhkS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From aelmore at interwoven.com Mon Mar 10 16:00:18 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 01:25:05PM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > JWZ once described C++ as "The PDP-11 assembler that thinks > it's an object system!" > Some of the things that JWZ has written about are very interesting, even funny. And I'm very thankful to have Mozilla, which probably has some of the code that he touched along the way. But I really don't give a rat's patootie what he thinks about c++. From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Mar 10 17:03:00 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check In-Reply-To: <20030310163216.GA27910@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030310163216.GA27910@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030311010300.GS1140@lazarus> > Identify the author of these words: > > "What if [Saddam] fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take > some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities > to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction? ... Well, > he will conclude that the international community has lost its > will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to > rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some > way, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal." > > Jeff Waugh, because of his handicap, will receive extra credit if he > can get it right! That's only fair, right? A: Your mum. - Jeff -- No clue is good clue. From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Mon Mar 10 17:06:08 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] jwz-ess Message-ID: <200303110105.h2B15gT11179@mail0.rawbw.com> On jwz's site, I see no C++ dissing, but I noticed he was taking on Mailman: http://www.jwz.org/doc/mailman.html I thought this was great: "You can argue that this is the user's fault, but I argue that good software does not encourage naive users to do stupid things." Maybe's he's been getting tons of html mail with megabyte-scale jpeg attachments, too. From aelmore at interwoven.com Mon Mar 10 17:36:08 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] jwz-ess In-Reply-To: <200303110105.h2B15gT11179@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <200303110105.h2B15gT11179@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030311013608.GA22311@interwoven.com> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:06:08PM -0800, J. M. Brenner wrote: > > On jwz's site, I see no C++ dissing, but I noticed he > was taking on Mailman: I really don't care about his take on Mailman, either, but I did find the following rather interesting, and particularly apropos as Mr Rogers recently passed away: > He started screaming and swearing. Now it's bad enough for a teenager > to be interrupted in a compromising position like that by an irate > parent, but when Mister Rogers Himself walks in http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/rogers.html From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Mar 10 18:49:51 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check In-Reply-To: <20030311010300.GS1140@lazarus> References: <20030310163216.GA27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030311010300.GS1140@lazarus> Message-ID: <1047350991.9c0a1cfd86a3f@webmail.spamcop.net> Jeff Waugh blabbed out loud: > A: Your mum. Dead. ha ha you. Hey! How's that 33.6K modem treating you? -- Bob Bernstein I would have a man's wit rather like a at fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, Esmond, Rhode Island than a river, that is supplied by several USA streams from abroad. (Swift) From jordanb at hafd.org Tue Mar 11 07:16:47 2003 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <55511.163.191.24.14.1047395807.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> Andrew Elmore said: > But I really don't give a rat's patootie what he thinks about c++. I don't put much stock in JWZ's technical opinions ether, just read his ignorant, self absorbed rant about linux video. I think these are much better C++ quotes: If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargill C++ will do for C what Algol-68 did for Algol. -- David L. Jones I absolutely fail to see how we can keep our growing programs firmly within our intellectual grip when by its sheer baroqueness the programming language -our basic tool, mind you!- already escapes our intellectual control. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra And my favorite: Another lesson we should have learned from the recent past is that the development of "richer" or "more powerful" programming languages was a mistake in the sense that these baroque monstrosities, these conglomerations of idiosyncrasies, are really unmanageable, both mechanically and mentally. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra Granted, Dijkstra was actually referring to PL1, but I think his point still applies to this generation's big mistake as well. -- Jordan Bettis "Congestion is the only form of traffic management that works in a democratic society," -- Vancouver City Councilor Gordon Price From wcshafer at cablespeed.com Mon Mar 10 16:06:21 2003 From: wcshafer at cablespeed.com (Chris Shafer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? In-Reply-To: <20030310221041.GA26899@relst8.net> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> <20030310221041.GA26899@relst8.net> Message-ID: <20030311000621.GA20286@cablespeed.com> On 0, Loki Ambrodious von Esling wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:16:48PM -0500, Jason Azze wrote: > > Which one would win in a fight? > > > > RMS vs. ESR > > I imagine RMS's endless political banter would bore even ESR to death. > Or he'd probably meditate through it. ESR is know to pack heat and RMS is a big target... > > > > > Mr. Bad vs. Steven Hawkinga > > Robots win every time Yep > > > Phil Collins vs. Peter Gabriel > > well... Collins' last album sucked alot more than Gabriel's. > > > > > Perl vs. Python > > Camel squases snake, +2 experiance! Python. I can look at my code a day later and know what it does, and there is not any of the $ & @ shit laying around. > > > Apples vs. Oranges > > a fight like that is just like comparing INTERCAL to Visual Basic... Intercal hands down everytime. > > > > Miles Nordin vs. A Model M Keyboard > > MOdel M > *... this is an easy fight > > > > Blog vs. Diary > > > > livejournal? webcam Chris Shafer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://frotz.zork.net/pipermail/crackmonkey/attachments/20030310/64fb886f/attachment.pgp From asf at acm.org Tue Mar 11 11:43:55 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> <55511.163.191.24.14.1047395807.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> Message-ID: <87wuj5k7t0.fsf@eris.void.at> Today, Jordan Bettis wrote: > I don't put much stock in JWZ's technical opinions ether, just read > his ignorant, self absorbed rant about linux video. Oh yes, and while we're at it, let me too demonstrate my mental superiority by stating that nobody gives a rat's ass about anyone's opinions on jwz's opinions. (And yes, we too can run fortune -m) dumdidum, -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From jordanb at hafd.org Tue Mar 11 12:09:52 2003 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <87wuj5k7t0.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> <55511.163.191.24.14.1047395807.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <87wuj5k7t0.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <61887.163.191.24.14.1047413392.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> Andreas Fuchs said: > Today, Jordan Bettis wrote: >> I don't put much stock in JWZ's technical opinions ether, just read >> his ignorant, self absorbed rant about linux video. > > Oh yes, and while we're at it, let me too demonstrate my mental > superiority by stating that nobody gives a rat's ass about anyone's > opinions on jwz's opinions. (And yes, we too can run fortune -m) I doubt that those are in fortune. I got the first two from a rather good book[1] about C. The two quotes were in the introduction to the C++ chapter (I'd like to especially recommend the "If I was going there, I wouldn't start from here" section of the same chapter). The Dijkstra quotes were transcribed by me from the original source,[2] Also highly recommended. [1] http://www.sun.com/books/catalog/vanderlinden/ [2] "The Humble Programmer" by Edsger W. Dijkstra. I have a printout of a PostScript facsimile, but I no longer have a URL to it. Ask google. -- Jordan Bettis The economy is doing fine, but the people aren't. -- General Emelio Medici, head-of-state of Brazil, 1971 From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Tue Mar 11 12:26:03 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? In-Reply-To: <20030311000621.GA20286@cablespeed.com> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> <20030310221041.GA26899@relst8.net> <20030311000621.GA20286@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <87u1e9hcpw.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Chris Shafer writes: > On 0, Loki Ambrodious von Esling wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:16:48PM -0500, Jason Azze wrote: >> > Which one would win in a fight? > Python. I can look at my code a day later and know what it does, and there is not any of the $ > & @ shit laying around. > Yes, but as a python programmer you've obviously found that it's easier to keep under 80 columns with perl. - erik -- erik bourget | "Sleep! That's where I'm a viking!" ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | From squinky at dasbistro.com Tue Mar 11 14:21:55 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <61887.163.191.24.14.1047413392.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> <55511.163.191.24.14.1047395807.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <87wuj5k7t0.fsf@eris.void.at> <61887.163.191.24.14.1047413392.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> Message-ID: <20030311222154.GH4868@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:09:52PM -0600, Jordan Bettis wrote: > I doubt that those are in fortune. I got the first two from a rather > good book[1] about C. The two quotes were in the introduction to the > C++ chapter (I'd like to especially recommend the "If I was going > there, I wouldn't start from here" section of the same chapter). I'm suddenly almost overcome with the urge to write a book about some language that does little more than attempt to talk the reader out of it. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From zen at zork.net Tue Mar 11 16:36:20 2003 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] rms wud so win esr is l3m3 *NT* In-Reply-To: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> Message-ID: <20030312003620.GB21741@zork.net> begin Jason Azze uuencoded stream: > This is a message from a long-time lurker who has noticed a drop in the > quality of the list's chit-chat of late. It is not meant to improve the > quality of said chit-chat. In fact it is a blatant troll, in which I make > reference to people that I don't know and things that I don't fully > understand in order to sound smart and fit in. I like to hear the sound of my > own typing. Please ignore me. > > Which one would win in a fight? > > RMS vs. ESR > Mr. Bad vs. Steven Hawking > Folk Dancing vs. Aikido > Rick Moen vs. DJB > OSPF vs. RIP > Phil Collins vs. Peter Gabriel > Perl vs. Python > Don Saklad vs. Any BPL Reference Librarian > Lojban vs. Esperanto > Apples vs. Oranges > Miles Nordin vs. A Model M Keyboard > Frame Lock vs. Liner Lock > Blog vs. Diary > > Thanks for your time. > > -- > Jason Azze > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From asf at acm.org Wed Mar 12 00:46:34 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> <55511.163.191.24.14.1047395807.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <87wuj5k7t0.fsf@eris.void.at> <61887.163.191.24.14.1047413392.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <20030311222154.GH4868@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <87of4hj7kl.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-11, Not Erik wrote: > I'm suddenly almost overcome with the urge to write a book about some > language that does little more than attempt to talk the reader out of > it. Yay! Let's all get famous by rewriting Dijkstra quotes to diss different languages! Javur is mine! -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From jdub at perkypants.org Wed Mar 12 02:16:39 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <87of4hj7kl.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> <55511.163.191.24.14.1047395807.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <87wuj5k7t0.fsf@eris.void.at> <61887.163.191.24.14.1047413392.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <20030311222154.GH4868@dasbistro.com> <87of4hj7kl.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <20030312101639.GH19569@lazarus> > On 2003-03-11, Not Erik wrote: > > I'm suddenly almost overcome with the urge to write a book about some > > language that does little more than attempt to talk the reader out of > > it. > > Yay! Let's all get famous by rewriting Dijkstra quotes to diss different > languages! You first. - Jeff -- "But in the software world, that's daily business." - Kent Beck "That's pissing money away and leaving scar tissue." - Alan Cooper From dep at linuxandmain.com Wed Mar 12 05:24:47 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] security council to give up windows? Message-ID: <200303120824.10774.dep@linuxandmain.com> bill buckley, yesterday, misspelling the alternative: "What will follow is castration of the Security Council, whose swaggering permanent members will have the voices of eunuchs." -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From asf at acm.org Wed Mar 12 06:01:27 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> <55511.163.191.24.14.1047395807.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <87wuj5k7t0.fsf@eris.void.at> <61887.163.191.24.14.1047413392.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <20030311222154.GH4868@dasbistro.com> <87of4hj7kl.fsf@eris.void.at> <20030312101639.GH19569@lazarus> Message-ID: <87k7f4k7k8.fsf@eris.void.at> Today, Jeff Waugh wrote: >> Yay! Let's all get famous by rewriting Dijkstra quotes to diss >> different languages! > > You first. Age before beauty. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs And pearls before swine. From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Wed Mar 12 08:11:55 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] security council to give up windows? In-Reply-To: <200303120824.10774.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200303120824.10774.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <1047485514.1819.3.camel@biznatch> On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 05:24, dep wrote: > bill buckley, yesterday, misspelling the alternative: > > "What will follow is castration of the Security Council, whose > swaggering permanent members will have the voices of eunuchs." Oh, boy, that is hee-larr-ee-uss. He said "castration." -tduffy -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From aelmore at interwoven.com Wed Mar 12 08:39:43 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <87k7f4k7k8.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> <20030310212505.GQ32419@zork.net> <20030311000018.GB273@interwoven.com> <55511.163.191.24.14.1047395807.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <87wuj5k7t0.fsf@eris.void.at> <61887.163.191.24.14.1047413392.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <20030311222154.GH4868@dasbistro.com> <87of4hj7kl.fsf@eris.void.at> <20030312101639.GH19569@lazarus> <87k7f4k7k8.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <20030312163943.GG22311@interwoven.com> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:01:27PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > > Age before beauty. > Death before unconsciousness. From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Mar 12 09:25:28 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? In-Reply-To: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> Message-ID: <20030312172528.GJ17469@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:16:48PM -0500, Jason Azze wrote: > Perl vs. Python Tolkien Pr0n vs. Language Boy Scouts. Tell me why I should care. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Wed Mar 12 12:38:42 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Which one would win? In-Reply-To: Message from Chris Shafer of "Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:06:21 EST." <20030311000621.GA20286@cablespeed.com> References: <200303111616.48109.jazze@mail.fairfield.edu> <20030310221041.GA26899@relst8.net> <20030311000621.GA20286@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <200303122038.h2CKcaT99436@mail0.rawbw.com> > Python. I can look at my code a day later and know what it > does, I think it's great the way Python programmer's are willing to admit up front that they never document their code. > and there is not any of the $ & @ shit laying around. But maybe whitespace fascists shouldn't be tossing stones at other people's little (syn)tactical quirks. From apost at recalcitrant.org Wed Mar 12 12:54:32 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] reality check 2 In-Reply-To: <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> References: <20030310163414.GB27910@localhost.localdomain> <20030310165627.GA25885@relst8.net> <20030310191743.GA91817@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <20030312205432.GP14368@recalcitrant.org> * Andrew Elmore (aelmore@interwoven.com) [030310 11:27]: > > Nothing is more fun than learning Yet Another Object Model in C. > > Why *is* Gnome written in C anyway? Yeah, they should have used ocaml... From nick at zork.net Wed Mar 12 15:41:15 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FUN NEW CLASSES Message-ID: <20030312234115.GK7499@zork.net> http://web.csuchico.edu/~ka58/dwsm/classes.html From jv at zork.net Wed Mar 12 16:21:39 2003 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: The Bends (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] FUN NEW CLASSES) In-Reply-To: <20030312234115.GK7499@zork.net> References: <20030312234115.GK7499@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030313002139.GF21347@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://web.csuchico.edu/~ka58/dwsm/classes.html CSUC Underwater Basket Weaving Department. Not underwater-baskets. Baskets woven underwater. Excellent. -jv From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Mar 12 17:37:40 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FUN NEW CLASSES In-Reply-To: <20030312234115.GK7499@zork.net> References: <20030312234115.GK7499@zork.net> Message-ID: <1047519460.07f7756304c5d@webmail.spamcop.net> Nick Moffitt blabbed out loud: > http://web.csuchico.edu/~ka58/dwsm/classes.html Let's not omit: UBW 332: Radical Approaches To Deap Sea Underwater Basket Weaving: Deconstructing the Patriarchal Myth -- I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness starving hysterical naked dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix From jdub at perkypants.org Wed Mar 12 18:15:47 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Notes client remote exploits Message-ID: <20030313021547.GL1879@lazarus> Have fun with these ones... - Jeff ----- Forwarded message from chesty@argus.net.au ----- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:12:26 +1100 From: chesty@argus.net.au Since we are talking about notes... There are a few tricks to annoy notes users (like they aren't already annoyed enough for having to use notes in the first place :), similar to the X-Message-Flag for outlook. Form: Notice header tells notes to display the email as a meeting notice. I guess if you set all the required headers, you'd be able to set times and rooms and have it displayed in the calendar, but that would take about 300 odd headers. Notes loves its headers. Form: Task does a similar thing but makes notes display the message as a to do. It might be possible to create a to do with a reminder notice every 5 minutes, but, 300 odd headers... Importance: 1 Makes your message "important". It puts an "!" next to the message, not sure what else it does. But that header might trip spam filters. If you wanted to annoy yourself, you could add the request return receipt header.:) I'm sure there would be more interesting notes tricks out there. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- 100% Pure Slashdot Wisdom: "Source code gives a whole new meaning to free software." From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu Thu Mar 13 06:35:31 2003 From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Software Vendors Say to Public: "You Have No Rights." Message-ID: 1. How do our North American cities' public libraries protect circulation records with regard to the software companies access to these records? 2. How do our North American cities' public libraries protect other library records from software companies access to these records?... Via http://www.kuro5hin.org http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/11/124732/806 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 Kuro5hin.org: technology and culture, from the trenches Software Vendors Say to Public: "You Have No Rights." (Internet) By Dragomire Wed Mar 12th, 2003 at 06:04:52 PM EST Spyware. Adware. Back doors. We all know about them. We most likely all hate them. Many popular 'free' programs come with spyware and/or adware that must be installed for the programs to work. These extra programs report back to the parent company users' web surfing preferences, what music/movie/other entertainment files might be on their hard drive, as well as any other information they are programmed to retrieve (email addresses, messenger clients, etc). A bigger problem, however, might come in the form of back doors to popular programs, which may give software vendors complete access, and in some cases complete control, to an end user's system. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Spyware Spyware is loosely defined as any program that monitors a user's activities on a computer, that then sends that information to a company so that they may then re-use, or re-sell, that information to try and advertise to the user (usually through spam email). Spyware is almost universally reviled. Many people consider it an invasion of privacy, and I agree with them. To me what is on my computer, and to what degree I use my computer for my own uses, is no one else's business. Many popular P2P programs, such as Kazaa, contain spyware, unbeknownst to many naive users. Many 'download accelerator' programs contain spyware as well. Even Microsoft's Windows Media Player contains spyware within it. Unfortunately, installing the programs that contain the spyware installs the spyware itself. And, by agreeing to the licensing terms within these programs, many people have agreed to let the spyware programs be installed. Even uninstalling the offending program that a user originally downloaded often does not remove the spyware from the user's machine. Adware Adware is a form of spyware that afflicts the user with enormous amounts of pop-up and pop-under ads while the user surfs the web, or uses the program that contains it. These ads become tailored to the types of web sites that the user visits/uses of the program originally downloaded. For example: if a user likes to visit porn sites, they will get ads for penis enlargement, or viagra-type sexual enhancers, or even porn sites themselves. If a user likes to visit computer hardware pages, they will get ads for computer upgrades and monitors. Etc. Like normal spyware, many users do not realize that the 'free' program they have downloaded contains the adware. And, like normal spyware, the clickable license that the user agrees to states they agree to have this software installed. Again, uninstalling the program that contained the adware often does not remove the adware itself. Kazaa is a program that actually uses normal spyware, as well as adware. The ads become tailored to the type of files the user downloads the most, as well as the types of web sites the user visits. Even web pages that don't have pop-up/pop-under ads will begin having them for users with Kazaa installed. Many vendors defend the use of spyware and adware as a source of potential revenue. Some also say that in order to release the programs for free, they must allow the makers of the spy/adware to add these programs to their software; since the makers of the spy/adware programs often help to cover costs by contributing (sometimes large) sums of money to the development of the programs. Back Doors While spyware and adware are bad enough, there is actually a worse problem to worry about. Back doors left in programs that allow the software vendor complete access, if not complete control of a user's computer. Microsoft is at the forefront of this movement. When a user installs Windows XP on their system, upgrades their Windows 2000 to Service Pack 3, or even just upgrades their Windows Media Player to version 9, they all agree-- through a clickable license-- to let Microsoft have unrestricted access to their computer's hard drive. This isn't just for seeing what is on the drives, either; Microsoft has every right to change the user's hard drive contents as it sees fit, and with no liability to themselves for any damages this may cause to an end user's computer. Part of the license agreement reads, emphasis mine: "You acknowledge and agree that Microsoft may automatically check the version of the Product and/or its components that you are utilizing and may provide upgrades or fixes to the Product that will be automatically downloaded to your Workstation Computer." Source. Many businesses are refusing to upgrade to Service Pack 3 precisely for this reason. Businesses, however, are really the only users that read software licenses, especially clickable ones. They fear that Microsoft may use this ability to harm their business in some way, especially if they put forth a possibly competing product to one Microsoft makes (such as web browsers, email clients, user authentication software, media players, etc.) Some businesses are actively looking for alternative networking solutions to Microsoft's products. They do not want Microsoft to have access to their networks, and as a result, their IP, customer database, and financial records. Others are just going to stay at Service Pack 2, even though SP3 fixes many possible security threats in Windows 2000. General consumer end users, however, normally don't read these clickable licenses. It is the general consumer end user who is at most risk from Microsoft, and any other company that decides to add such a term to their license (as well as a back door into their programs). Clickable Licenses At this point, we've all seen them. Generally from downloads of updates from Microsoft, but also upon the instillation of many types of software from office suites to games. Most of the consumers, however, don't read them. They simply click the "I Agree", or whatever term is used for the license in question (varies from publisher to publisher). However, this is why consumers stand to lose the most freedom and personal privacy. So far, clickable licenses have held up in court as valid. No signature is required, but the licenses stand as long as you click the appropriate agreeing choice. Most software with such licenses will not install itself if the licenses are refused. Even console games have similar licenses, but they are printed in the back of the instruction manual. These are considered binding as soon as you open the package. Because most consumers don't read the licenses they are legally agreeing to, software vendors can put many things within these licenses that the consumer would most likely object to if they had read them. Back doors in programs (Windows XP, Windows 2000 SP3, Windows Media Player 9 for all versions of Windows), spyware (Kazaa, download accelerators, etc.), and adware (Kazaa, download accelerators, etc.) would normally not be agreed upon should these licenses be read. Of course, being as the licenses are often written in legal terms, they may be somewhat hard for the average user to understand, even if they did read them. Microsoft has stated that these wordings are purely to comply with future DRM agreements and to protect the IP of whoever owns it. The possibilities, however, are far more onerous. Digital Rights Management DRM is the new buzzword around corporate headquarters around the world. With the popularity of file sharing not dwindling down, content owners are ever increasing their desire to strictly control their property. And end user be damned if necessary. The Recording Industry Association of America, or the RIAA for short, recently tried to get a proposal passed that would allow them to do almost anything short of sending computer viruses to users computers, to try and stop the use of file sharing programs. The proposal asked for the right to send Denial of Service attacks against file sharing networks (DoS); posting false MP3 files with no sound, or corrupted data, with the hopes that people would end up downloading them instead of the real MP3s of the songs; or even programs that would allow the RIAA access to people's computers to erase the traded MP3s. Microsoft has been another leader in arguing that DRM protocols must be put in place in order to allow copyright holders the ability to control who uses their copyrighted content, where, and when. The Windows Media Player has, since version 7, stored a file that it periodically sends to Microsoft's servers informing Microsoft of what DVDs, and CDs an end user uses with the program. It also uses an early form of DRM protocols which disable the use of WMA files ripped with the player to work on another computer (files may be re-burned onto CD for use in audio CD players, however). With the release of Windows XP, Microsoft went a few steps further. Using the new Product Activation feature in Windows XP, Microsoft has the ability to deny users the right to even boot up their own computer. Should you make a certain amount of hardware changes to your computer (for the purpose of upgrades, for example), then Windows XP will simply not boot up. Instead, you must contact Microsoft and get a new product activation code to allow the software to work. The stated reason for this is to keep users bound to the 1 machine per license Microsoft strongly enforces; if you make too many hardware changes, Windows XP assumes you have tried to put it on a second computer without buying a new license. If you are connected to the Internet while using Windows XP, the OS tries to contact Microsoft's servers whenever you open a file or program. The purpose of this is to allow Microsoft to see what files or programs you are opening. It doesn't send a copy of the file, but it informs Microsoft of the file name and extension (.exe, .jpg, .mov, .mp3, etc.). Adding this to their back door, and Microsoft now has the ability to enforce DRM upon consumers. Whether the consumer wants it or not. Using their proprietary DRM protocol, Palladium, Microsoft hopes to entrench all users in the use of DRM signed media. This has content holders overjoyed, while privacy and fair use rights, and other civil rights activists outraged. Part of the problem comes from the potential for Palladium to be used to further Microsoft's own agenda. Through the use of Palladium, it has been theorized that Microsoft could lock users out of their own created content. And Microsoft wouldn't be the only ones doing so. Possible harmful uses for Palladium include: Locking of all office suite documents so that only a Microsoft made office suite program will open them. Allowing remote deletion of files deemed 'inappropriate' by corporations and/or the government. Censorship of the public through remote deleting of files criticizing the government, Microsoft, or any other company that wishes to do so. Locking out of third party programs so that only Microsoft, or their partners' versions will work. Disabling of firewalls and other network protection resources to allow Microsoft, its partners, or the government access to the computer in order to check for Palladium compliance and to check for offensive files/material. And many others. Some people have theorized that Palladium may be one reason the Bush Administration Department of Justice backed off of the anti-trust case. It is, according to the theory, entirely possible that Microsoft has given the federal government the full use of the features of Palladium in order for Department of Homeland Security to effectively work. In other words, the theory is that Microsoft has basically sold the federal government the ability to spy on its citizenry whenever it wishes, and in a way they might not have easily been able to do before. Other countries have also theorized this, hence the apparent large undertaking by many foreign governments to remove all versions of Windows from their official computers and networks. These governments include Peru, China, Germany, and France. They figure that if the US government can use Windows to spy on its own citizens, then surely the US government could do the same to them? They also aren't exactly excited at the prospect of Microsoft also having free access to their governments' official computers. Microsoft's next operating system, currently code named Longhorn, will be a fully Palladium compliant OS. In order to utilize this OS, businesses and consumers must purchase Palladium compliant motherboards, which contain an extra chip to utilize Palladium, currently called "Fritz". Microsoft is also heavily lobbying for a bill called the UCITA (The Uniform Computer Information Transactions Act), which would make software licenses binding, even if the end user is not allowed to see them. The UCITA could then be used to allow program vendors to insert clauses in the license making it a violation of the license to even criticize the program or company in print or in public; allow vendors to change the terms of the license and make it retroactively take effect; or install backdoors into programs that would allow the vendor to be able to seize control of the end users computer whenever they wish. See links at the bottom of this article for more information on the UCITA. It should be noted, however, that many groups oppose the UCITA, including the American Bar Association, The American Library Association, and the Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility. The bill has also failed to pass in many states; only Virginia and Maryland have passed versions of it. 26 State Attourney Generals also oppose the bill. Possible Solutions Install a firewall, and not the one found in Windows XP, on your computer or network. Zone Alarm offers free simple firewalls to use, as well as more robust ones for purchase, as do other vendors. A Google search will find you more vendors. A firewall can be configured to alert you every time something tries to transmit data from your computer or network to something on the Internet. This can be used to block spyware, adware, and Windows XP's attempts to contact Microsoft. You may also set a firewall to ask your permission when something does want to transmit to an outside source. Deny this permission if you do not know what the program is, or do not want it to send the information even if you do know what it is. Run an older version of Windows (95, 98, Me, 2000 up to SP2), do not download any security patches, and do not upgrade to Windows Media Player 9. If you do not upgrade your OS, download any security patches for the OS, nor install WMP9, then the new EULA found with these upgrades is not in effect for you. Change computer's operating system. Switch to Apple Computer's Macintosh platform. As far as is known, Apple does currently not have these licensing terms in effect, nor has any plans to add them. Switch to a Sun Microsostems solution. Switch to an open source operating system. Linux, FreeBSD (and other BSD variants) and other open source operating systems do not have such infringing licenses upon them. Their source code is freely available, and able to be checked at will, as well as free to be modified to suit end users needs (provided the user has adequate knowledge to do so). These operating systems, however, do not carry a warranty. If switching, try and find a distribution house that will offer technical support for free or a small fee if problems arise. Switch business servers over to Macintosh, UNIX, or an open source operating system for the same reasons listed above. Contact your representatives. Contact your representatives, and demand, in a tact manner, that they oppose any action taken by a company to infringe upon your rights to privacy, and free speech. Inform them that should they not do so, that you will organize voter rallies to support a candidate that will support your rights. Politicians want votes. If enough people are informed that representative X is supporting corporate or government agendas to limit voter's rights, then that representative will not become re-elected. More links on the subject of backdoors in programs: The Register The Register www.lugod.org (Multiple links within) InfoWorld InfoWorld Google can also find many more articles. More info on the UCITA: InfoWorld (Multiple links within) Affect Americans for Fair Electronic Commerce Transations ALA The American Library Association CPSR Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility Google Links to multiple references of the UTICA and articles about it. Related Links o Kazaa o Microsoft o license o Source. o Recording Industry Association of America o Palladium o privacy o activists o Zone Alarm o Apple Computer o Sun Microsostems o The Register o www.lugod.org o InfoWorld o Affect o ALA o CPSR o Google o More on Freedom o Also by Dragomire View: [Mixed (default)] Display: [Threaded........] Sort: [Ignore Ratings.......] [Newest First] Set Software Vendors Say to Public: "You Have No Rights." | 151 comments (120 topical, 31 editorial, 0 hidden) Put this in the fiction section (3.00 / 2) (#124) by interjay on Wed Mar 12th, 2003 at 09:46:40 PM EST This article is filled with so much false or misleading information that I hardly know where to start. Some examples: 1. You say Microsoft grants itself unlimited access to the user's harddrive. However, your quote from the license agreement only says MS can check and update the version of Windows and its components, not other software. 2. Windows Media Player sends information about the CDs you play in order to receive the names of the artist, album, and the tracks. The same is done by most major media players. If you think this compromises your privacy, you can turn it off in WMP's privacy settings (which are automatically displayed on installation). 3. Your claim that Windows XP sends information about any file or program that is opened is completely unfounded. 4. It's true that Palladium can be used for DRM and copy protection. However, I don't see how it has anything to do with remote deletion of files or disabling firewalls. There is some valid information mixed in between the falsities. Unfortunately, articles such as this can only hurt the credibility of more truthful anti-spyware arguments. * Actually no by salsaman, 03/12/2003 11:22:33 PM EST (5.00 / 3) * Prove MS is called when you open a file or program by bsimon, 03/13/2003 05:13:23 AM EST (5.00 / 1) * OK, I admit point 3 may be an exaggeration by salsaman, 03/13/2003 07:07:44 AM EST (none / 0) more... http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/11/124732/806 From zen at zork.net Thu Mar 13 06:52:58 2003 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Software Vendors Say to Public: "You Have No Rights." In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030313145258.GA19023@zork.net> begin Don Saklad uuencoded stream: > 1. How do our North American cities' public libraries protect circulation > records with regard to the software companies access to these records? > > 2. How do our North American cities' public libraries protect other library > records from software companies access to these records?... > > Via > http://www.kuro5hin.org > http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/11/124732/806 When you clicked that "e-mail this story to a friend!" link, you must have forgotten that nobody here is your friend. God, even the weird kids have weird friends. Not having ANY friends just isn't human. -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu Thu Mar 13 07:28:15 2003 From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Which one would win? Message-ID: Are public records appeals considered to be legal actions?... FOI freedom of information principles allow for public records appeals http://www.state.ma.us/sec/pre/prelaw/lawfaq.htm Weblog A guide to problematical library use. Boston Public Library. http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.blog-city.com From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Thu Mar 13 07:42:43 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FUN NEW CLASSES In-Reply-To: <20030312234115.GK7499@zork.net> References: <20030312234115.GK7499@zork.net> Message-ID: <1047570162.3188.19.camel@biznatch> On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 15:41, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://web.csuchico.edu/~ka58/dwsm/classes.html When I was in school, we had The Department of Psychoceramics, better know as the study of cracked pots. -tduffy -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Mar 13 14:41:45 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Qmail Message-ID: Are there any news on the Qmail licensing policy horizon or is Rick Moen still an idiot? Regards, Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu Thu Mar 13 14:43:37 2003 From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:13 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letter q. qmail. Message-ID: What does the letter q represent mnemonically?... in qmail From dsaklad at gnu.org Thu Mar 13 14:44:52 2003 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letter q. qmail. Message-ID: What does the letter q represent mnemonically?... in qmail From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Thu Mar 13 15:04:49 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letter q. qmail. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Don Saklad wrote: > What does the letter q represent mnemonically?... in qmail I'd guess "queue" -- "If there's something wrong, I'm outraged by it, but if there is nothing wrong, then I have no problem with it." -- Gavin Newsom From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 13 15:08:20 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letter q. qmail. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030313230820.GQ7499@zork.net> begin #2 of Berkeley quotation: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Don Saklad wrote: > > > What does the letter q represent mnemonically?... in qmail > > I'd guess "queue" I would have assumed "quick", but your guess sounds more reasonable. qmail makes use of several different queues to hand off data between the privilege partition walls. postfix does something similar. From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Mar 13 15:28:35 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Qmail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030313232834.GM1120@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Mikael Pawlo (mikael@pawlo.com): > Are there any news on the Qmail licensing policy horizon or is Rick Moen > still an idiot? Nothing but idiocy in all directions. Carry on! -- Cheers, Founding member of the Hyphenation Society, a grassroots-based, Rick Moen not-for-profit, locally-owned-and-operated, cooperatively-managed, rick@linuxmafia.com modern-American-English-usage-improvement association. From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Mar 13 15:33:08 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letter q. qmail. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 17.43 -0500 03-03-13, Don Saklad wrote: >What does the letter q represent mnemonically?... in qmail Maybe it's short for "I am an annoying and obnoxious person". qMikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Thu Mar 13 15:27:39 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: Re: plot thickens [jam@rm-cpa.com] In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313182245.03aaeab0@mail.rm-cpa.com>; from jam@rm-cpa.com on Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 18:22:58 -0500 References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313181235.03aac410@mail.rm-cpa.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20030313181235.03aac410@mail.rm-cpa.com> <20030313231108.GA11525@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20030313182245.03aaeab0@mail.rm-cpa.com> Message-ID: <20030313182739.A12594@www2.mrbrklyn.com> On 2003.03.13 18:22 Joseph A. Maffia wrote: i say let's not. At 06:11 PM 03/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Good > >Let's ROLL this into court > >Ruben > > >On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:15:07PM -0500, Joseph A. Maffia wrote: > > I just got a voice mail from Brett. > > Brett has informed me that " in as much as NYLXS has refused to stop > > identifying itself and its actions as New Yorkers for fair use and NY fair > > use actions. NYFU has been forced into the position to file an order to > > show cause to prevent us from speaking as NYFU including our planned > ralley > > on Monday. > > > > > > > > Mr. Joseph A. Maffia, CPA > > Rosenzweig & Maffia LLP > > 845 Third Ave. #1300 > > New York, NY 10022 > > 212-980-2470 x16 > > 212-980-2177 fax > > www.rm-cpa.com > > > > > > E-MAIL NOTICE > > This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is for the sole use of > > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged > > information. Any review, use, disclosure or distribution by persons or > > entities other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If > > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply and > > destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you for your cooperation > > in this matter. > >-- >__________________________ >Brooklyn Linux Solutions >__________________________ >DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com > >http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting >http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients >http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software >http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and >articles from around the net >http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... > >1-718-382-0585 Mr. Joseph A. Maffia, CPA Rosenzweig & Maffia LLP 845 Third Ave. #1300 New York, NY 10022 212-980-2470 x16 212-980-2177 fax www.rm-cpa.com E-MAIL NOTICE This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any review, use, disclosure or distribution by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Thu Mar 13 15:28:06 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com] In-Reply-To: <20030313181849.A11599@www2.mrbrklyn.com>; from ruben@mrbrklyn.com on Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 18:18:49 -0500 References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313181235.03aac410@mail.rm-cpa.com> <20030313181849.A11599@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030313182806.C12594@www2.mrbrklyn.com> On 2003.03.13 18:18 Ruben I Safir wrote: NY Fair Use is rolling out on Sunday at 4AM in order to be on time for the Conference on Monday in Washington DC. Everyone who is coming should be ready. Dave Williams is helping to write up our paperwork. Good Work NY Fair Use Members and NYLXS! Ruben On 2003.03.13 18:15 Joseph A. Maffia wrote: > I just got a voice mail from Brett. > Brett has informed me that " in as much as NYLXS has refused to stop > identifying itself and its actions as New Yorkers for fair use and NY fair > use actions. NYFU has been forced into the position to file an order to > show cause to prevent us from speaking as NYFU including our planned ralley > on Monday. > > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 To stop the messages from coming see http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/appl/fairuse/gone.html ____________________________ New Yorkers for Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Thu Mar 13 15:40:23 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Brett Wynkoop threatens to sue NYLXS for use of our own organizations [ruben@mrbrklyn.com] In-Reply-To: <20030313183809.A12858@www2.mrbrklyn.com>; from ruben@mrbrklyn.com on Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 18:38:09 -0500 References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313181235.03aac410@mail.rm-cpa.com> <20030313183809.A12858@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030313184023.G12858@www2.mrbrklyn.com> On 2003.03.13 18:15 Joseph A. Maffia wrote: > I just got a voice mail from Brett. > Brett has informed me that " in as much as NYLXS has refused to stop > identifying itself and its actions as New Yorkers for fair use and NY fair > use actions. NYFU has been forced into the position to file an order to > show cause to prevent us from speaking as NYFU including our planned ralley > on Monday. > > > > Mr. Joseph A. Maffia, CPA > Rosenzweig & Maffia LLP > 845 Third Ave. #1300 > New York, NY 10022 > 212-980-2470 x16 > 212-980-2177 fax > www.rm-cpa.com > > > E-MAIL NOTICE > This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged > information. Any review, use, disclosure or distribution by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply and > destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you for your cooperation > in this matter. > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 To stop the messages from coming see http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/appl/fairuse/gone.html ____________________________ New Yorkers for Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 13 15:43:11 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com] In-Reply-To: <20030313182806.C12594@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313181235.03aac410@mail.rm-cpa.com> <20030313181849.A11599@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030313182806.C12594@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030313234310.GR7499@zork.net> Ruben, you're not NYFU, and you fucked up every chance of being a part of it. Just give up and pick a new goddamn name. Posting as "NYFU NYFU " to nylug just makes everyone wish you would STFU. From dep at linuxandmain.com Thu Mar 13 15:43:59 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: Re: plot thickens [jam@rm-cpa.com] In-Reply-To: <20030313182739.A12594@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313181235.03aac410@mail.rm-cpa.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20030313182245.03aaeab0@mail.rm-cpa.com> <20030313182739.A12594@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <200303131843.30982.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Ruben I Safir's quote: | On 2003.03.13 18:22 Joseph A. Maffia wrote: you hired a fucking lawyer named *maffia*? why? were nazzi and peddophile too expensive? -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From helpdesk at fuck-everything.org Thu Mar 13 16:14:58 2003 From: helpdesk at fuck-everything.org (Reference Desk) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com] In-Reply-To: <20030313234310.GR7499@zork.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313181235.03aac410@mail.rm-cpa.com> <20030313181849.A11599@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030313182806.C12594@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030313234310.GR7499@zork.net> Message-ID: <1047600898.1082.323.camel@dante> On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 18:43, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Ruben, you're not NYFU, Actually, he is. -- Fortune: It's going to get real lively in here real soon. From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Thu Mar 13 17:54:36 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (CEO of NY Fair Use) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]] In-Reply-To: <1047602258.1082.361.camel@dante>; from ron@vnetworx.net on Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 19:37:38 -0500 References: <1047602258.1082.361.camel@dante> Message-ID: <20030313205436.A14543@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Oh Well not according to our Lawyer - Oh Well. I started NY Fair Use, I have EVERY SINGLE Message NY Fair Use was ever involved in. Jay has abused on the phone every member to convince folks otherwise...and nearly every other organization. He's busting up on NYLUG right this minute. Too Bad. NY Fair Use votes 12 - 0 and Jay is Banned from NYFU (as well as Brett) LOOKING FORWARD to a Day in Court of that. And we are waiting for that WONDERFUL testimony, so bad, and so aweful testimony that Jay and Brett says will just "Blow NYLXS UP". Hey - Jay has made this threat so many times that NYLXS has begun to informally nick named him "Mr September 11". Personally, I think he resembles more the guy from Taxi, Jim Ignorkowki. There can be only one CEO of Brooklyn! MRBRKLYN - Grooowwwlll Ruben On 2003.03.13 19:37 Ron Guerin wrote: > By order of the Reference Desk. ;) > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > From: Reference Desk > To: crackmonkey @ crackmonkey . org > Subject: Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com] > Date: 13 Mar 2003 19:14:58 -0500 > > On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 18:43, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San > Francisco wrote: > > Ruben, you're not NYFU, > > Actually, he is. > > -- > Fortune: It's going to get real lively in here real soon. > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From pgl at yoyo.org Thu Mar 13 19:35:59 2003 From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy fun ball? In-Reply-To: <871y1qlbmr.fsf@valhalla.odinnet> References: <200303012101.h21L1ZZ47404@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030301231957.GA19039@dasbistro.com> <20030301233549.GB18732@zork.net> <200303012017.03829.dep@linuxandmain.com> <871y1qlbmr.fsf@valhalla.odinnet> Message-ID: <20030314033559.GB17268@yoyo.org> On Mar 02, Erik Bourget wrote: > They should make a show about that. ,--------------------------. | | | _| _| _| | | _|_| _| _| _| _| | | _| _| _| _| _| | | _| _| _| _| _| | | _| _| _| _| | | | `--------------------------' | | | | | | | | | | \__/ -- A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? -- Nick Moffitt From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 13 21:18:27 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]] In-Reply-To: <20030313205436.A14543@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <1047602258.1082.361.camel@dante> <20030313205436.A14543@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030314051827.GU7499@zork.net> begin Rubn I Safir quotation: > I started NY Fair Use, I have EVERY SINGLE Message NY Fair Use was > ever involved in. Yeah, but you're all super-crazy loony tunes and shit. > Jay has abused on the phone every member to convince folks > otherwise...and nearly every other organization. He's busting up on > NYLUG right this minute. Dude, he's totally kept his head down on NYLUG and let you shoot yourself in the foot with your loud obnoxious ramblings. He's admittedly gotten himself embroiled in an "am not, are too" quibble with a "BOTH OF YOU GO TO YOUR ROOMS AND SHUT UP" list moderator, but for the most part he's let you say your piece. > There can be only one CEO of Brooklyn! Right. Stick to what you're good at. From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Thu Mar 13 21:29:55 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]] In-Reply-To: <20030314051827.GU7499@zork.net> References: <1047602258.1082.361.camel@dante> <20030313205436.A14543@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030314051827.GU7499@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030314052955.GF8712@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Oh no he hasn't, and NYLUG is not the only list he's abused. > > Dude, he's totally kept his head down on NYLUG and let you > shoot yourself in the foot with your loud obnoxious ramblings. Dude - he burried himself so much on HANGOUT that our lawyer is using his statements currently now for the Trademark lawsuit and waved his down paymenet because of the ease of the case. We are all waiting for the Great Sulzberger to pull the trigger on his threat to "Blow up NYLXS". You are SO out of the loop, you can't even SEE the loop. CEO of Brooklyn -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Mar 13 22:02:17 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]] In-Reply-To: <20030314052955.GF8712@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <1047602258.1082.361.camel@dante> <20030313205436.A14543@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030314051827.GU7499@zork.net> <20030314052955.GF8712@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <1047621737.7f85e0cd39a90@webmail.spamcop.net> Ruben Safir blabbed out loud: > You are SO out of the loop, you can't even SEE the loop. Fuck you and your loop. Get the fuck off this list and stay the fuck off it. No one _cares_ about this stupid fucking mess you got yourself into. Grow up. Go away. Now. -- I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness starving hysterical naked dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix From ron at vnetworx.net Thu Mar 13 21:54:20 2003 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Ron Guerin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]] In-Reply-To: <20030314051827.GU7499@zork.net> References: <1047602258.1082.361.camel@dante> <20030313205436.A14543@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030314051827.GU7499@zork.net> Message-ID: <1047621260.1083.673.camel@dante> On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 00:18, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Dude, he's totally kept his head down on NYLUG and let you > shoot yourself in the foot with your loud obnoxious ramblings. You must be on the bizarro NYLUG list. You're sure not on the one I'm on. From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 14 00:02:39 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030314080239.GW7499@zork.net> I feel so chaotic. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- kayos@genetikayos.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 14 13:45:48 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cal Message-ID: <20030314214548.GC11347@zork.net> http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/news/iraq/images/0305activism.jpg Good to see that UC Berkeley is continuing its tradition of hiring the best and the brightest. From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Fri Mar 14 14:04:11 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cal In-Reply-To: <20030314214548.GC11347@zork.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/news/iraq/images/0305activism.jpg > > Good to see that UC Berkeley is continuing its tradition of hiring the > best and the brightest. Yeah, like Michael Nacht, the Dean of UC Berkeley's Public Policy Department, who is pro-war. -- "If there's something wrong, I'm outraged by it, but if there is nothing wrong, then I have no problem with it." -- Gavin Newsom From jdub at perkypants.org Fri Mar 14 17:12:18 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: plot thickens [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]] In-Reply-To: <20030314051827.GU7499@zork.net> References: <1047602258.1082.361.camel@dante> <20030313205436.A14543@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030314051827.GU7499@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030315011218.GM28890@lazarus> > Yeah, but you're all super-crazy loony tunes and shit. So, there is no love at NYLUG? Sounds like there's always crazy loony tunes and shit going on. EXTERIOR Beach at sunset, Bill Gates is laughing maniacally. BILL: "Ah ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha hahahah ha ha." - Jeff -- What does an underage calf drink? Long Island Iced Teats. From apost at recalcitrant.org Sat Mar 15 11:03:28 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cal In-Reply-To: <20030314214548.GC11347@zork.net> References: <20030314214548.GC11347@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030315190328.GB417@recalcitrant.org> * Nick Moffitt (nick@zork.net) [030314 13:54]: > http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/news/iraq/images/0305activism.jpg "Educator's for activism" Ít's called a contraction -- that is, "[This] educator is for activism." From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Mar 15 13:08:18 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cal In-Reply-To: <20030315190328.GB417@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030314214548.GC11347@zork.net> <20030315190328.GB417@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <200303151608.18692.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Alan Post's quote: | * Nick Moffitt (nick@zork.net) [030314 13:54]: | > http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/news/iraq/images/0305activism.jpg | | "Educator's for activism" | | ?t's called a contraction -- that is, "[This] educator is for | activism." it's not a contraction, but your attempt to swab its butt is a stretch. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From magnus at bodin.org Sat Mar 15 13:14:28 2003 From: magnus at bodin.org (Magnus Bodin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letter q. qmail. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030315211427.GG17746@bodin.org> Le Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 05:44:52PM -0500, Don Saklad ?crivait: > What does the letter q represent mnemonically?... in qmail quorn From jdub at perkypants.org Sat Mar 15 16:12:01 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letter q. qmail. In-Reply-To: <20030315211427.GG17746@bodin.org> References: <20030315211427.GG17746@bodin.org> Message-ID: <20030316001201.GI28890@lazarus> > Le Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 05:44:52PM -0500, Don Saklad ?crivait: > > What does the letter q represent mnemonically?... in qmail > > quorn No, you ninny. It's "quine", and nothing else. Dullard *and* a ninny. - Jeff -- "The Motif interface, with chunkier controls, felt more like a ghetto blaster." - Liam Quin From dsaklad at gnu.org Sat Mar 15 16:46:20 2003 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letters e, x, i, m in exim Message-ID: Thank you for the ideas about the meaning of letter q in qmail folks! What do the letters e, x, i and m represent mnemonicaly?... in exim From sam at dasbistro.com Sat Mar 15 17:09:23 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letters e, x, i, m in exim In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030316010922.GL17469@dasbistro.com> On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 07:46:20PM -0500, Don Saklad wrote: > Thank you for the ideas about the meaning of letter q in qmail folks! > > > What do the letters e, x, i and m represent mnemonicaly?... in exim Many things: http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-19981102/009817.html -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From helpdesk at fuck-everything.org Sat Mar 15 17:19:24 2003 From: helpdesk at fuck-everything.org (Reference Desk) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letters e, x, i, m in exim In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1047777564.1074.10222.camel@dante> On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 19:46, Don Saklad wrote: > What do the letters e, x, i and m represent mnemonicaly?... in exim http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.00/doc/html/FAQ_19.html Q5013: What does ``Exim'' stand for? A5013: Originally, it was ``EXperimental Internet Mailer'', which was the best I could come up with when I was starting out. At that point it was experimental - I wanted to see if the ideas I had for extending Smail's approach actually worked. Then somebody discovered about it and wanted to start using it, and told other people about it... From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Mar 15 17:24:42 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letters e, x, i, m in exim In-Reply-To: <20030316010922.GL17469@dasbistro.com> References: <20030316010922.GL17469@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <1047777882.a7fb4acd3834b@webmail.spamcop.net> Sam Phillips let it be known that: > http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-19981102/009817.html "University of Lincolnshire & Humberside" Ah... -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Mar 15 18:40:42 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letters e, x, i, m in exim In-Reply-To: <1047777564.1074.10222.camel@dante> References: <1047777564.1074.10222.camel@dante> Message-ID: <20030316024041.GG21406@zork.net> begin Reference Desk quotation: > On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 19:46, Don Saklad wrote: > > What do the letters e, x, i and m represent mnemonicaly?... in > > exim > > http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.00/doc/html/FAQ_19.html Okay, so now you need to become belligerent and sue Don for using your handy-dandy Reference Desk services. From simm at zork.net Sat Mar 15 21:11:02 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letters S, a, k, l, a, d in Saklad Message-ID: <20030316051102.GE30244@zork.net> What do the letters S, a, k, l, a, and d represent mnemonically? ... in Saklad? -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From helpdesk at fuck-everything.org Sat Mar 15 21:41:57 2003 From: helpdesk at fuck-everything.org (Reference Desk) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:14 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letters e, x, i, m in exim In-Reply-To: <20030316024041.GG21406@zork.net> References: <1047777564.1074.10222.camel@dante> <20030316024041.GG21406@zork.net> Message-ID: <1047793317.8240.11566.camel@dante> On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 21:40, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Reference Desk quotation: > > On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 19:46, Don Saklad wrote: > > > What do the letters e, x, i and m represent mnemonicaly?... in > > > exim > > > > http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.00/doc/html/FAQ_19.html > > Okay, so now you need to become belligerent and sue Don for > using your handy-dandy Reference Desk services. The reference services provided by the Reference Desk are henceforth free under the FDL version 1.2 or later. The Reference Desk assigns copyright of the message to the Free Software Foundation. From helpdesk at fuck-everything.org Sat Mar 15 21:51:47 2003 From: helpdesk at fuck-everything.org (Reference Desk) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letters S, a, k, l, a, d in Saklad In-Reply-To: <20030316051102.GE30244@zork.net> References: <20030316051102.GE30244@zork.net> Message-ID: <1047793907.8240.11631.camel@dante> On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 00:11, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > What do the letters S, a, k, l, a, and d represent mnemonically? ... > in Saklad? Socha- Annoying, Kibology-topic, Library- Accusing Don From jays at panix.com Sat Mar 15 22:43:37 2003 From: jays at panix.com (jays@panix.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Multics TECO Message-ID: <200303160643.h2G6hbU27015@panix2.panix.com> >Path: reader2.panix.com!panix!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!priapus.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail >NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:28:31 -0600 >From: Tom Van Vleck >Newsgroups: alt.os.multics,alt.lang.teco >Subject: Multics TECO >Organization: Multicians >User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:28:19 -0500 >Message-ID: >Lines: 12 >NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.46.140.196 >X-Trace: sv3-1Zk3yDtVzU6UxYmzmf2P3/IqtSbUgYFFipBWcNfAolQ+cWhsj83Ee8aTZBjTtmTfIcJCi3jVcAEjNdg!3QNt1Nvy+BsezhhbJoW6kdFmnrNEO5+YGXIU8i0CeiJd3WV1KiSg5WmVGSnWme7fulIquuZXfWkq!Aigk81rb4w== >X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net >X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net >X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers >X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly >X-Postfilter: 1.1 >Xref: panix alt.os.multics:6344 alt.lang.teco:1846 (from a discussion in alt.folklore.computers) The source for the Multics version of TECO is online. It was written in 1971 in Multics version 1 PL/I by Rick Gumpertz. Peter Bishop and David Levin did further improvements. http://www.mit.edu/afs/net/reference/multics/ldd/tools/source /bound_teco_.s.archive (The online file contains NUL chars that may mess up the display of the file for older browsers, beware.) From magnus at bodin.org Sun Mar 16 12:10:30 2003 From: magnus at bodin.org (Magnus Bodin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The letter q. qmail. In-Reply-To: <20030316001201.GI28890@lazarus> References: <20030315211427.GG17746@bodin.org> <20030316001201.GI28890@lazarus> Message-ID: <20030316201030.GB14380@bodin.org> On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 11:12:01AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Le Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 05:44:52PM -0500, Don Saklad ?crivait: > > > What does the letter q represent mnemonically?... in qmail > > > > quorn > > No, you ninny. It's "quine", and nothing else. Dullard *and* a ninny. I was thinking about quorn because it's non-opensource fungus. /magnus -- http://x42.com From dep at linuxandmain.com Sun Mar 16 16:58:10 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] and they said there were no linux apps . . . Message-ID: <200303161958.10233.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e73e455%240%2412404%2479c14f64%40nan-newsreader-01.noos.net&output=gplain "Manifesto Study is a KDE application that allow to read the Communist Manifesto in almost 30 languages, it is based on the marxists.org internet archive. The eventual goal is to create libs and modules that could be read by all kind of applications." -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Mar 17 09:44:02 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] CAPPS II Message-ID: <20030317174402.GE15934@zgp.org> (please feel free to forward to appropriate fora.) Californians for Responsible Airline Security Who: Concerned citizens and airline passengers What: Planning meeting to understand the risks of CAPPS II Where: Dana Street Roasting Company 744 Dana Street Mountain View When: Tuesday, March 18, 8pm Why: CAPPS II poses security threats as well as privacy risks Reasonable people can disagree on the balance between security and privacy. But when an extreme privacy intrusion actually hurts security and introduces new risks, everyone can agree that it's a bad idea. As recently reported in the New York Times and USA Today, Delta Air Lines is participating in a test of a experimenta project called CAPPS II, which uses personal data including passenger credit reports to assign a threat level to each passenger. Although this is intended as a security measure, an MIT study showed that this method of selecting passengers for "yellow" screening is much riskier than random screening, because it unavoidably leaks information to terrorists attempting to penetrate the system. Captain Robert Cox, former Special Projects Officer for the National Security Committee of the Airline Pilots Association, wrote, "The CAPPS II program is extremely intrusive and does not address the real problems of aviation security. In fact, it creates a number of other problems by virtue of sharing the information garnered with just about anyone." A false sense of security doesn't work. It's time for Delta to abandon this dangerous, expensive experiment. Please join us for an intial planning meeting, and for more information, see http://www.boycottdelta.com/ From neale at woozle.org Mon Mar 17 15:31:42 2003 From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Loquatus Interruptus Message-ID: How many Don Saklads does it take to disrupt a newsgroup? Mailing list? What is the smallest interval between list creation and Saklad invasion? The longest? -- If you continue to eat meat, then the carnivores have already won. -- #2 of Berkeley From andy at strugglers.net Mon Mar 17 15:48:28 2003 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Loquatus Interruptus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030317234828.GZ21363@lug.org.uk> On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:31:42PM -0800, Neale Pickett wrote: > How many Don Saklads does it take to disrupt a newsgroup? Mailing list? > What is the smallest interval between list creation and Saklad invasion? > The longest? How many Saklads can problematically use the head of a pin? From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Mar 17 16:06:29 2003 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Loquatus Interruptus In-Reply-To: <20030317234828.GZ21363@lug.org.uk> References: <20030317234828.GZ21363@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20030318000629.GX43824@trance.org> * andy@strugglers.net (Andy Smith) [Tue 18 Mar 2003, 00:52 CET]: > How many Saklads can problematically use the head of a pin? Sequentially or in parallel? -- Niels. -- subvertise me From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Mar 20 16:41:32 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] begin 600 Message-ID: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> Attention network security wiseasses and smug bastards. Please update your mail headers, attribution string, and .signature to address the following "Multiple vulnerabilities in Ximian's Evolution Mail User Agent". That is all. http://www.coresecurity.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=309 -- Don Marti Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly http://zgp.org/~dmarti demanding DMCA reform is going to get the dmarti@zgp.org injustice of the DMCA in front of the next KG6INA jury. Make noise. It counts. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Mar 20 18:04:42 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] begin 600 In-Reply-To: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> References: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> Message-ID: <1048212282.8d6eef1fc9be2@webmail.spamcop.net> Don Marti let it be known that: > http://www.coresecurity.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=309 ha ha evolution. Speaking of bloatware, where is the GTK'd version of mutt? -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From jdub at perkypants.org Thu Mar 20 19:12:48 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] begin 600 In-Reply-To: <1048212282.8d6eef1fc9be2@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> <1048212282.8d6eef1fc9be2@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <20030321031248.GJ2216@lazarus> > Don Marti let it be known that: > > > http://www.coresecurity.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=309 > > ha ha evolution. > > Speaking of bloatware, where is the GTK'd version of mutt? Balsa is widely regarded as the GTK+ version of mutt. - Jeff -- "'Cause remember, smug is beautiful." - Zachary Beane From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Mar 20 19:47:25 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] begin 600 In-Reply-To: <20030321031248.GJ2216@lazarus> References: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> <1048212282.8d6eef1fc9be2@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030321031248.GJ2216@lazarus> Message-ID: <1048218445.64ef361885004@webmail.spamcop.net> Jeff Waugh let it be known that: > > Speaking of bloatware, where is the GTK'd version of mutt? > > Balsa is widely regarded as the GTK+ version of mutt. I should have been more specific: where is the GTK "port" of (or "frontend" for) mutt? Besides, it seems to me that Balsa has only become at all useful within the past year or so, whereas mutt has from the first been ready-to-go. Just idle questions I suppose, to add to my now classic list of idle questions. . -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 20 19:53:48 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] begin 600 In-Reply-To: <1048218445.64ef361885004@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> <1048212282.8d6eef1fc9be2@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030321031248.GJ2216@lazarus> <1048218445.64ef361885004@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <20030321035348.GK21733@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > Jeff Waugh let it be known that: > > > Speaking of bloatware, where is the GTK'd version of mutt? > > > > Balsa is widely regarded as the GTK+ version of mutt. > > I should have been more specific: where is the GTK "port" of (or > "frontend" for) mutt? You're a damned fool. Balsa uses a library version of mutt. > Besides, it seems to me that Balsa has only become at all useful > within the past year or so, whereas mutt has from the first been > ready-to-go. That's pretty easy, considering the time it takes to get a graphical event-based system up as opposed to a curses interface. It's the same underlying engine, homeboy. -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Mar 20 20:14:13 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] begin 600 In-Reply-To: <20030321035348.GK21733@zork.net> References: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> <1048212282.8d6eef1fc9be2@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030321031248.GJ2216@lazarus> <1048218445.64ef361885004@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030321035348.GK21733@zork.net> Message-ID: <1048220053.7be0e64767d02@webmail.spamcop.net> Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco let it be known that: > You're a damned fool. Balsa uses a library version of mutt. SINCE WHEN? THESE DAMNED GERMANS! -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From jdub at perkypants.org Thu Mar 20 20:45:30 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] begin 600 In-Reply-To: <20030321035348.GK21733@zork.net> References: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> <1048212282.8d6eef1fc9be2@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030321031248.GJ2216@lazarus> <1048218445.64ef361885004@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030321035348.GK21733@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030321044530.GO2216@lazarus> > > I should have been more specific: where is the GTK "port" of (or > > "frontend" for) mutt? > > You're a damned fool. Balsa uses a library version of mutt. I find 'gnome-terminal -x screen mutt' to be highly comfortable and usable. Hooray for dingus clicking. Hope you are all celebrating mirthfully in a San Franciscan gaol. - Jeff -- Is Murphy's Law constitutional? From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Thu Mar 20 21:21:07 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] begin 600 In-Reply-To: <20030321044530.GO2216@lazarus> References: <20030321004132.GB20828@zgp.org> <1048212282.8d6eef1fc9be2@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030321031248.GJ2216@lazarus> <1048218445.64ef361885004@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030321035348.GK21733@zork.net> <20030321044530.GO2216@lazarus> Message-ID: <87bs051eik.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Jeff Waugh writes: > > >> > I should have been more specific: where is the GTK "port" of (or >> > "frontend" for) mutt? >> >> You're a damned fool. Balsa uses a library version of mutt. > > I find 'gnome-terminal -x screen mutt' to be highly comfortable and usable. > Hooray for dingus clicking. > Or the gtk+ port of emacs21 running mutt inside M-x ansi-term. - erik -- erik bourget | "Sleep! That's where I'm a viking!" ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 21 15:22:08 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Closed captioning rules Message-ID: <20030321232208.GP21733@zork.net> 15:01 <+feed> Microsoft missiles hit the sprawling republican palace complex that contains several presidential palaces. 15:01 <+feed> They also hit targets in kirkuk and mosul. [from a CNN caption feed being directed into slashnet IRC] -- end From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Mar 21 15:47:12 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Closed captioning rules In-Reply-To: <20030321232208.GP21733@zork.net> References: <20030321232208.GP21733@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303211847.12402.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Moffitt's quote: | 15:01 <+feed> Microsoft missiles hit the sprawling republican | palace complex that contains several presidential palaces. if that's the case, one must wonder what they were aimed at. or maybe they were microsoft airplanes. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 21 16:14:53 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Closed captioning rules In-Reply-To: <20030321232208.GP21733@zork.net> References: <20030321232208.GP21733@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030322001453.GQ21733@zork.net> 16:10 <+feed> [explosions] [explosions] [speaking in foreign language] [speaking in foreign language] [speaking in foreign language] [explosions] [speaking in foreign language] [explosions] [explosions] [speaking in foreign language entrepreneur [ [speaking in foreign language. 16:10 <+feed> >> hundreds of tom hack cruise missiles and satellite guided bombs, 2,000-pound bombs hitting targets in baghdad. I wonder if Tom Hack speaks a foreign language. -- end From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sat Mar 22 00:49:19 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Closed captioning rules In-Reply-To: <20030322001453.GQ21733@zork.net> References: <20030321232208.GP21733@zork.net> <20030322001453.GQ21733@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030322084919.GA6274@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > 16:10 <+feed> [explosions] [explosions] [speaking in foreign language] > [speaking in foreign language] [speaking in foreign > language] [explosions] [speaking in foreign language] > [explosions] [explosions] [speaking in foreign language > entrepreneur [ [speaking in foreign language. > 16:10 <+feed> >> hundreds of tom hack cruise missiles and satellite > guided bombs, 2,000-pound bombs hitting targets in baghdad. Didn't the Church of Scientology sue somebody for joking about Tom Hack Cruise Missiles? - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+fCOEjLHcIq3dHxYRAiZPAJ9rgUCVQFrmrbKOD5e3FUVPyo33vwCff6L6 9iyaSplnpjH2GPhC2e/jL8w= =/Alp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sat Mar 22 00:50:05 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Closed captioning rules In-Reply-To: <20030321232208.GP21733@zork.net> References: <20030321232208.GP21733@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030322085005.GB6274@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Nick Moffitt quotation: > 15:01 <+feed> Microsoft missiles hit the sprawling republican palace > complex that contains several presidential palaces. > 15:01 <+feed> They also hit targets in kirkuk and mosul. > > [from a CNN caption feed being directed into slashnet IRC] (music) (music) - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+fCO7jLHcIq3dHxYRAnMqAKD7p/dv3I+egl8LSyXSIaEAGsQDIQCggoHX CcT/Sy+mAFdjsXRCNNiAtUc= =H+KN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Mar 22 11:48:53 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! Message-ID: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter than Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with me whenever she wants! -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Mar 22 14:09:11 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <200303221709.11185.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter than Fox's? I | mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with me whenever she wants! sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding machine. she is now ohm slaw. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Mar 22 14:14:09 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303221709.11185.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221709.11185.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <200303221714.09155.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin dep's quote: | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter than Fox's? I | | mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with me whenever she wants! | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding machine. she | is now ohm slaw. the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar was spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy god!" -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Mar 22 14:18:13 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303221714.09155.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221709.11185.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200303221714.09155.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <200303221718.13976.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin dep's quote: | begin dep's quote: | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter than Fox's? I | | | mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with me whenever she wants! | | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding machine. she | | is now ohm slaw. | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar was | spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy god!" oddly, she put up no resistance. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Mar 22 14:20:51 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303221718.13976.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221714.09155.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200303221718.13976.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <200303221720.51216.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin dep's quote: | begin dep's quote: | | begin dep's quote: | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter than Fox's? | | | | I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with me whenever she | | | | wants! | | | | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding machine. | | | she is now ohm slaw. | | | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar was | | spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy god!" | | oddly, she put up no resistance. the choir director, though, did. but he was a semi-conductor. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Mar 22 14:41:55 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303221720.51216.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221714.09155.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200303221718.13976.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200303221720.51216.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <1048372915.33664fb40dc28@webmail.spamcop.net> dep let it be known that: > begin dep's quote: > | begin dep's quote: > | | begin dep's quote: > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter than Fox's? > | | | | I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with me whenever she > | | | | wants! > | | | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding machine. > | | | she is now ohm slaw. > | | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar was > | | spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy god!" > | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. > > the choir director, though, did. but he was a semi-conductor. He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Mar 22 14:48:46 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <1048372915.33664fb40dc28@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221720.51216.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1048372915.33664fb40dc28@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <200303221748.46807.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | dep let it be known that: | > begin dep's quote: | > | begin dep's quote: | > | | begin dep's quote: | > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter than | > | | | | Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with me | > | | | | whenever she wants! | > | | | | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding | > | | | machine. she is now ohm slaw. | > | | | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar was | > | | spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy god!" | > | | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. | > | > the choir director, though, did. but he was a semi-conductor. | | He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! revolting, isn't it. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Mar 22 15:03:34 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303221748.46807.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221720.51216.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1048372915.33664fb40dc28@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221748.46807.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <1048374214.7a6e6401db25e@webmail.spamcop.net> dep let it be known that: > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | dep let it be known that: > | > begin dep's quote: > | > | begin dep's quote: > | > | | begin dep's quote: > | > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter than > | > | | | | Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with me > | > | | | | whenever she wants! > | > | | | > | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding > | > | | | machine. she is now ohm slaw. > | > | | > | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar was > | > | | spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy god!" > | > | > | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. > | > > | > the choir director, though, did. but he was a semi-conductor. > | > | He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! > > revolting, isn't it. It's like the good old BBS days when we would try to fill up messages with quoting to ridiculous depths! -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Mar 22 15:20:19 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <1048374214.7a6e6401db25e@webmail.spamcop.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221748.46807.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1048374214.7a6e6401db25e@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <200303221820.19446.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | dep let it be known that: | > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | > | dep let it be known that: | > | > begin dep's quote: | > | > | begin dep's quote: | > | > | | begin dep's quote: | > | > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | > | > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter | > | > | | | | than Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with | > | > | | | | me whenever she wants! | > | > | | | | > | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding | > | > | | | machine. she is now ohm slaw. | > | > | | | > | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar | > | > | | was spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy god!" | > | > | | > | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. | > | > | > | > the choir director, though, did. but he was a semi-conductor. | > | | > | He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! | > | > revolting, isn't it. | | It's like the good old BBS days when we would try to fill up | messages with quoting to ridiculous depths! true. that sort of thing has fallen out of fashion, though, and this list is nothing if not current. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From necco at relst8.net Sat Mar 22 18:04:20 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303221820.19446.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221748.46807.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1048374214.7a6e6401db25e@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221820.19446.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030323020420.GA29412@relst8.net> On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 06:20:19PM -0500, dep wrote: > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | dep let it be known that: > | > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | > | dep let it be known that: > | > | > begin dep's quote: > | > | > | begin dep's quote: > | > | > | | begin dep's quote: > | > | > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | > | > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter > | > | > | | | | than Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way with > | > | > | | | | me whenever she wants! > | > | > | | | > | > | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding > | > | > | | | machine. she is now ohm slaw. > | > | > | | > | > | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar > | > | > | | was spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy god!" > | > | > | > | > | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. > | > | > > | > | > the choir director, though, did. but he was a semi-conductor. > | > | > | > | He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! > | > > | > revolting, isn't it. > | > | It's like the good old BBS days when we would try to fill up > | messages with quoting to ridiculous depths! > > true. that sort of thing has fallen out of fashion, though, and this > list is nothing if not current. Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net | From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Mar 22 18:47:31 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030323020420.GA29412@relst8.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221748.46807.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1048374214.7a6e6401db25e@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221820.19446.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030323020420.GA29412@relst8.net> Message-ID: <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> Loki Ambrodious von Esling let it be known that: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 06:20:19PM -0500, dep wrote: > > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > > | dep let it be known that: > > | > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > > | > | dep let it be known that: > > | > | > begin dep's quote: > > | > | > | begin dep's quote: > > | > | > | | begin dep's quote: > > | > | > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > > | > | > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter > > | > | > | | | | than Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way > with > > | > | > | | | | me whenever she wants! > > | > | > | | | > > | > | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding > > | > | > | | | machine. she is now ohm slaw. > > | > | > | | > > | > | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar > > | > | > | | was spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy > god!" > > | > | > | > > | > | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. > > | > | > > > | > | > the choir director, though, did. but he was a > semi-conductor. > > | > | > > | > | He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! > > | > > > | > revolting, isn't it. > > | > > | It's like the good old BBS days when we would try to fill up > > | messages with quoting to ridiculous depths! > > > > true. that sort of thing has fallen out of fashion, though, and > this > > list is nothing if not current. > > Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? Yes! -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From asf at acm.org Sun Mar 23 14:31:37 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221748.46807.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1048374214.7a6e6401db25e@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303221820.19446.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030323020420.GA29412@relst8.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-22, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Loki Ambrodious von Esling let it be known that: >> On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 06:20:19PM -0500, dep wrote: >> > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: >> > | dep let it be known that: >> > | > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: >> > | > | dep let it be known that: >> > | > | > begin dep's quote: >> > | > | > | begin dep's quote: >> > | > | > | | begin dep's quote: >> > | > | > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: >> > | > | > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much hotter >> > | > | > | | | | than Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can have her way >> > | > | > | | | | with me whenever she wants! >> > | > | > | | | >> > | > | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge shredding >> > | > | > | | | machine. she is now ohm slaw. >> > | > | > | | >> > | > | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the altar >> > | > | > | | was spattered, causing the priest to exclaim, "ohmy >> > | > | > | | god!" >> > | > | > | >> > | > | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. >> > | > | > >> > | > | > the choir director, though, did. but he was a >> > | > | > semi-conductor. >> > | > | >> > | > | He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! >> > | > >> > | > revolting, isn't it. >> > | >> > | It's like the good old BBS days when we would try to fill up >> > | messages with quoting to ridiculous depths! >> > >> > true. that sort of thing has fallen out of fashion, though, and >> > this list is nothing if not current. >> >> Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? > > Yes! Your mailer doesn't fill quoted paragraphs correctly. You have lost. You must now invade a third-world country of your choice. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From dep at linuxandmain.com Sun Mar 23 14:50:08 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Andreas Fuchs's quote: | On 2003-03-22, Bob Bernstein wrote: | > Loki Ambrodious von Esling let it be known that: | >> On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 06:20:19PM -0500, dep wrote: | >> > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | >> > | dep let it be known that: | >> > | > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | >> > | > | dep let it be known that: | >> > | > | > begin dep's quote: | >> > | > | > | begin dep's quote: | >> > | > | > | | begin dep's quote: | >> > | > | > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: | >> > | > | > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much | >> > | > | > | | | | hotter than Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can | >> > | > | > | | | | have her way with me whenever she wants! | >> > | > | > | | | | >> > | > | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge | >> > | > | > | | | shredding machine. she is now ohm slaw. | >> > | > | > | | | >> > | > | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the | >> > | > | > | | altar was spattered, causing the priest to | >> > | > | > | | exclaim, "ohmy god!" | >> > | > | > | | >> > | > | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. | >> > | > | > | >> > | > | > the choir director, though, did. but he was a | >> > | > | > semi-conductor. | >> > | > | | >> > | > | He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! | >> > | > | >> > | > revolting, isn't it. | >> > | | >> > | It's like the good old BBS days when we would try to fill up | >> > | messages with quoting to ridiculous depths! | >> > | >> > true. that sort of thing has fallen out of fashion, though, | >> > and this list is nothing if not current. | >> | >> Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? | > | > Yes! | | Your mailer doesn't fill quoted paragraphs correctly. You have | lost. You must now invade a third-world country of your choice. hey, bob -- bermuda? -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Mar 24 17:35:28 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 05:50:08PM -0500, dep wrote: > begin Andreas Fuchs's quote: > | On 2003-03-22, Bob Bernstein wrote: > | > Loki Ambrodious von Esling let it be known > that: > | >> On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 06:20:19PM -0500, dep wrote: > | >> > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | >> > | dep let it be known that: > | >> > | > begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | >> > | > | dep let it be known that: > | >> > | > | > begin dep's quote: > | >> > | > | > | begin dep's quote: > | >> > | > | > | | begin dep's quote: > | >> > | > | > | | | begin Bob Bernstein's quote: > | >> > | > | > | | | | How come MSNBC's network babes are so much > | >> > | > | > | | | | hotter than Fox's? I mean, Jeannie Ohm can > | >> > | > | > | | | | have her way with me whenever she wants! > | >> > | > | > | | | > | >> > | > | > | | | sadly, this afternoon she fell into a huge > | >> > | > | > | | | shredding machine. she is now ohm slaw. > | >> > | > | > | | > | >> > | > | > | | the machine, strangely, was in a church, and the > | >> > | > | > | | altar was spattered, causing the priest to > | >> > | > | > | | exclaim, "ohmy god!" > | >> > | > | > | > | >> > | > | > | oddly, she put up no resistance. > | >> > | > | > > | >> > | > | > the choir director, though, did. but he was a > | >> > | > | > semi-conductor. > | >> > | > | > | >> > | > | He's gone 'round the bleepin' bend!! > | >> > | > > | >> > | > revolting, isn't it. > | >> > | > | >> > | It's like the good old BBS days when we would try to fill up > | >> > | messages with quoting to ridiculous depths! > | >> > > | >> > true. that sort of thing has fallen out of fashion, though, > | >> > and this list is nothing if not current. > | >> > | >> Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? > | > > | > Yes! > | > | Your mailer doesn't fill quoted paragraphs correctly. You have > | lost. You must now invade a third-world country of your choice. > > hey, bob -- bermuda? Naw...I've always kinda thought that might be an interesting place to retire after I hit the Powerball. What I don't understand is that, if we are now the amoral, rogue, out-of-control-bully lone superpower, why are we limited to "third world" countries? Why not invade some two-for-a-nickel tin-horn European countries? I mean, they'll certainly put up less of a fight than Iraq! And, it'll give the UN something to talk about!! Sounds like win-win to me! -- Bob Bernstein No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. From henrik at enberg.org Mon Mar 24 17:58:36 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:15 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:35:28 -0500") References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> Bob Bernstein writes: > What I don't understand is that, if we are now the amoral, rogue, > out-of-control-bully lone superpower, why are we limited to "third > world" countries? Why not invade some two-for-a-nickel tin-horn > European countries? I mean, they'll certainly put up less of a fight > than Iraq! And, it'll give the UN something to talk about!! Sounds > like win-win to me! It's too dangerous. Unlike Iraq, some of the European countries actually have weapons of mass destruction. From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Mon Mar 24 18:27:06 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GUESS WHAT!! Message-ID: <877kaow58l.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> I was poking around the bottom of the slashdot page to see if any trolls were passably amusing when I saw ... http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=58306&cid=5587892 > We have our finger on the pulse of Slashdot, (Score:-1, Offtopic) > by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 24, @08:30PM (#5587892) > We have our finger on the pulse of Slashdot, Crackmonkey, the Internet, and > the world. We know how and when you think, and when you don't. We are in > charge, we have the power, and never forget that. But... be nice to us and > we'll be nice to you. Usually. Just for reference, here's a list of the > people on this list who DON'T SUCK: 1. Mae Ling Mak 2. Kieran John Hervold > 3. Open Source Man 4. Nick Moffit The following people *DO* suck: 1. Rick > Moen (on and off) 2. Deirdre only-a-moron-would-remember-her-last-name If > you're not on either list, that means you're not important enough for me to > remember. Sorry. Better luck next time! Good luck to all. He loves you, Nick. That makes you gay. - erik -- erik bourget | "Sleep! That's where I'm a viking!" ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | From dep at linuxandmain.com Mon Mar 24 18:41:19 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | It's too dangerous. Unlike Iraq, some of the European countries | actually have weapons of mass destruction. making it all the odder that whenever they get in trouble, they come and try to suck us off to get 'em out of it. which we do, without their chiraqian french whore blowjob, thanks. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Mon Mar 24 18:45:43 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GUESS WHAT!! In-Reply-To: <877kaow58l.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> References: <877kaow58l.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Message-ID: <200303242145.43626.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Erik Bourget's quote: | I was poking around the bottom of the slashdot page to see if any | trolls were passably amusing when I saw ... | | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=58306&cid=5587892 | | > We have our finger on the pulse of Slashdot, (Score:-1, Offtopic) | > by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 24, @08:30PM (#5587892) | > We have our finger on the pulse of Slashdot, Crackmonkey, the | > Internet, and the world. We know how and when you think, and when | > you don't. We are in charge, we have the power, and never forget | > that. But... be nice to us and we'll be nice to you. Usually. | > Just for reference, here's a list of the people on this list who | > DON'T SUCK: 1. Mae Ling Mak 2. Kieran John Hervold 3. Open Source | > Man 4. Nick Moffit The following people *DO* suck: 1. Rick Moen | > (on and off) 2. Deirdre only-a-moron-would-remember-her-last-name | > If you're not on either list, that means you're not important | > enough for me to remember. Sorry. Better luck next time! Good | > luck to all. | | He loves you, Nick. That makes you gay. or narcissistic. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 24 18:48:03 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GUESS WHAT!! In-Reply-To: <877kaow58l.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> References: <877kaow58l.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Message-ID: <20030325024803.GF12871@zork.net> begin Erik Bourget quotation: > > Just for reference, here's a list of the people on this list who > > DON'T SUCK: 1. Mae Ling Mak 2. Kieran John Hervold 3. Open Source > > Man 4. Nick Moffit > He loves you, Nick. That makes you gay. Oh. -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Mar 24 18:59:27 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <1048561167.f0e3fc71209d8@webmail.spamcop.net> Henrik Enberg let it be known that: > It's too dangerous. Unlike Iraq, some of the European countries > actually have weapons of mass destruction. Ze bombe de atom francais? C'est une joke, n'est-ce pas? Ze gonades de frogie? C'est une joke grande!!! -- Bob Bernstein Is this retched demi-bee, at half asleep upon my knee, Esmond, Rhode Island some freak from a menagerie? USA No! It's Eric the half a bee. From henrik at enberg.org Mon Mar 24 19:34:57 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:41:19 -0500") References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> dep writes: > begin Henrik Enberg's quote: > > | It's too dangerous. Unlike Iraq, some of the European countries > | actually have weapons of mass destruction. > > making it all the odder that whenever they get in trouble, they come > and try to suck us off to get 'em out of it. which we do, without > their chiraqian french whore blowjob, thanks. Maybe in the past, todays US soldiers just don't cut it. A fucking Battle Helicopter defeated by a framer with a rifle. Todays generation of US soldiers are weaklings. From aelmore at interwoven.com Mon Mar 24 20:53:04 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GUESS WHAT!! In-Reply-To: <877kaow58l.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> References: <877kaow58l.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Message-ID: <20030325045304.GR70086@interwoven.com> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:27:06PM -0500, Erik Bourget wrote: > > I was poking around the bottom of the slashdot page to see if any trolls were > passably amusing when I saw ... > > http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=58306&cid=5587892 > > > We have our finger on the pulse of Slashdot, (Score:-1, Offtopic) > > by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 24, @08:30PM (#5587892) > > We have our finger on the pulse of Slashdot, Crackmonkey, the Internet, and > > the world. We know how and when you think, and when you don't. We are in > > charge, we have the power, and never forget that. But... be nice to us and > > we'll be nice to you. Usually. Just for reference, here's a list of the > > people on this list who DON'T SUCK: 1. Mae Ling Mak 2. Kieran John Hervold > > 3. Open Source Man 4. Nick Moffit The following people *DO* suck: 1. Rick > > Moen (on and off) 2. Deirdre only-a-moron-would-remember-her-last-name If > > you're not on either list, that means you're not important enough for me to > > remember. Sorry. Better luck next time! Good luck to all. > I modded it up, to "4, Funny". Gotta use those mod points for sumpin'. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Mar 24 21:37:23 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Lightning War Message-ID: <20030325053723.GB13772@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think it's great that GWB is trying to downplay the Hitler angle by engaging in a blitzkrieg. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+f+sPjLHcIq3dHxYRAvQKAKDt2SRedU95Nr8k9TK93+dohB5O/wCfXlmw 1KHS2ac31cpSwNkxtx8s91o= =ielj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Mar 24 21:41:07 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030325054106.GI1330@lazarus> > Maybe in the past, todays US soldiers just don't cut it. A fucking Battle > Helicopter defeated by a framer with a rifle. Todays generation of US > soldiers are weaklings. I just *knew* the US military forces were framed. It's not their doing at all! - Jeff -- From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 04:11:49 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200303250711.49635.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | Maybe in the past, todays US soldiers just don't cut it. A fucking | Battle Helicopter defeated by a framer with a rifle. Todays | generation of US soldiers are weaklings. bzzzzt. thanks for playing. broken jesus nut lube system according to the transmissions on the way down. still, it's nice to know that you believe any damn thing somebody says. i guess you'll be getting those nigerian millions real soon now. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From henrik at enberg.org Tue Mar 25 05:37:46 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303250711.49635.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:11:49 -0500") References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> <200303250711.49635.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87znnj4led.fsf@enberg.org> dep writes: > broken jesus nut lube system according to the transmissions on the way > down. My, you are one gullible babykiller lover. I bet you think CNN qualifies as an independent news-source too. From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 05:39:01 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > > What I don't understand is that, if we are now the amoral, rogue, > out-of-control-bully lone superpower, why are we limited to "third > world" countries? Why not invade some two-for-a-nickel tin-horn > European countries? I mean, they'll certainly put up less of a fight > than Iraq! And, it'll give the UN something to talk about!! Sounds > like win-win to me! > WHAT?! And kill white people?!? YOU SO CRAZY! -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From jason at sopko.net Tue Mar 25 05:40:07 2003 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> Henrik Enberg wrote: > Maybe in the past, todays US soldiers just don't cut it. A fucking > Battle Helicopter defeated by a framer with a rifle. Todays generation > of US soldiers are weaklings. The same US soldiers that removed the Taliban from power in Afghanistan in a matter of months, when the Soviets tried for more than 10 years with no success? If those guys are weaklings, I wonder what adjectives you'd use to describe other country's armed forces. I'd love to see the Swedish armed forces try to assault Iraq. Armed with dark chocolate and licorice, half of them pushing their viking canoes across the sand while the other half sat in the canoes, masturbating to IKEA's latest catalog. Taking turns pushing, onward they'd trudge to Baghdad. ///Jason From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 05:47:35 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> Message-ID: <20030325134735.GC24306@zork.net> begin Jason Sopko quotation: > Henrik Enberg wrote: > > >Maybe in the past, todays US soldiers just don't cut it. A fucking > >Battle Helicopter defeated by a framer with a rifle. Todays generation > >of US soldiers are weaklings. > > The same US soldiers that removed the Taliban from power in Afghanistan > in a matter of months, when the Soviets tried for more than 10 years > with no success? If those guys are weaklings, I wonder what adjectives > you'd use to describe other country's armed forces. I'd love to see the > Swedish armed forces try to assault Iraq. Armed with dark chocolate and > licorice, half of them pushing their viking canoes across the sand while > the other half sat in the canoes, masturbating to IKEA's latest catalog. > Taking turns pushing, onward they'd trudge to Baghdad. > I think you misspelled "Northern Alliance" -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 05:48:22 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87znnj4led.fsf@enberg.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303250711.49635.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87znnj4led.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200303250848.22699.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | My, you are one gullible babykiller lover. I bet you think CNN | qualifies as an independent news-source too. al jazeera west? hardly. you must be very afraid. good. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 05:49:52 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303250849.52940.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: | WHAT?! And kill white people?!? YOU SO CRAZY! yup. beginning with hans blixlixiraxdix. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 06:05:45 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303250848.22699.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303250711.49635.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87znnj4led.fsf@enberg.org> <200303250848.22699.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030325140545.GD24306@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > begin Henrik Enberg's quote: > > | My, you are one gullible babykiller lover. I bet you think CNN > | qualifies as an independent news-source too. > > al jazeera west? hardly. > Oh, you're the guy who thinks Fox news is too liberal. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Tue Mar 25 08:15:55 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GUESS WHAT!! In-Reply-To: <20030325045304.GR70086@interwoven.com> References: <877kaow58l.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030325045304.GR70086@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <1048608954.2231.73.camel@biznatch> On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 20:53, Andrew Elmore wrote: > I modded it up, to "4, Funny". http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=58306&cid=5587892 > Moderation 0 > 50% Funny > 50% Offtopic You taking lessons from Shrub now? -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Tue Mar 25 08:55:15 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> Message-ID: <20030325165515.GA22934@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:40:07AM -0500, Jason Sopko wrote: > Armed with dark chocolate and licorice, half of them pushing their > viking canoes across the sand while the other half sat in the canoes, > masturbating to IKEA's latest catalog. (Psst....hey, uh, where can I get one of those catalogs?) -- Bob Bernstein No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Tue Mar 25 08:57:53 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 05:39:01AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > WHAT?! And kill white people?!? Wait! You mean....gulp....that it's NOT "all about oil?" That it's....gulp...."all about slaughtering non-white races?" Wow! -- Bob Bernstein No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 09:15:24 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 05:39:01AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > > > WHAT?! And kill white people?!? > > Wait! You mean....gulp....that it's NOT "all about oil?" That > it's....gulp...."all about slaughtering non-white races?" > > Wow! > Not at all. But we can all agree it is certainly easier using the american moral compass to go to war with a non-white group of people than it is to war with whites. Don't fool yourself. If you read the headline: "5000 dead in British $natural_disaster" you'd be a lot more shocked than if you read "5000 dead in African/chinese/indian/arab/south american $natural_disaster" The value american society places on human life is greatly affected by the color and culture of the life. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 09:26:42 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303251226.42425.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: | Not at all. But we can all agree it is certainly easier using the | american moral compass to go to war with a non-white group of | people than it is to war with whites. is that right? how, then, do your explain our destruction of the aryan master race? easy: you can't. you're just babbling braindead inanities. so: shut your goddammed yap. read this: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12773688&method=full&siteid=50143 and then get the fuck off my planet. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From adam at flounder.net Tue Mar 25 09:16:50 2003 From: adam at flounder.net (Adam McKenna) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325171650.GB28044@flounder.net> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:15:24AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > The value american society places on human life is greatly affected by the > color and culture of the life. I think in general, people place more value on the lives of those that they care about and who care about them, as opposed to the people who want to kill them. Even if what you say is true, Americans as a society still place a much greater value on human life than most, if not all other societies, past and present. --Adam From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 09:38:02 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303251226.42425.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <200303251226.42425.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: > > | Not at all. But we can all agree it is certainly easier using the > | american moral compass to go to war with a non-white group of > | people than it is to war with whites. > > is that right? how, then, do your explain our destruction of the aryan > master race? easy: you can't. you're just babbling braindead Aryan master race? Whats that have to do with the value present day america places on human life? I doubt your freerepublic style of debate is going to work here... -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 25 09:39:06 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325171650.GB28044@flounder.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325171650.GB28044@flounder.net> Message-ID: <20030325173906.GM12871@zork.net> begin Adam McKenna quotation: > Even if what you say is true, Americans as a society still place a > much greater value on human life than most, if not all other > societies, past and present. "Boo-yeah" There is no one American society. Go back to Canadia! -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Tue Mar 25 10:03:13 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325180313.GB22935@callisto.jtan.com> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:15:24AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > Not at all. But we can all agree it is certainly easier using the > american moral compass to go to war with a non-white group of people > than it is to war with whites. Just as we can all agree that it is certainly easier for Saddamite Baathists to hide among women and children after doffing their uniforms! Please, let's keep this discussion this side of the blatantly hallucinatory! -- Bob Bernstein From henrik at enberg.org Tue Mar 25 10:09:32 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> (Jason Sopko's message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:40:07 -0500") References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> Message-ID: <87u1drwc6b.fsf@enberg.org> Jason Sopko writes: > I'd love to see the Swedish armed forces try to assault Iraq. Armed > with dark chocolate and licorice, half of them pushing their viking > canoes across the sand while the other half sat in the canoes, > masturbating to IKEA's latest catalog. Taking turns pushing, onward > they'd trudge to Baghdad. Why the fuck would they want to? Most Swedes are not thugs willing to kill babies just to make some drunk from Texas richer. From andy at strugglers.net Tue Mar 25 10:10:51 2003 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:15:24AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > Don't fool yourself. If you read the headline: "5000 dead in British > $natural_disaster" you'd be a lot more shocked than if you read "5000 > dead in African/chinese/indian/arab/south american $natural_disaster" I certainly would. Last time I looked, Britain was not well known for its volcanoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, tidal waves etc. etc. You'll only be happy when California falls into the ocean! From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 10:14:43 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303251226.42425.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303251314.43355.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: |Whats that have to do with the value present day | america places on human life? you're right. so here's proof: you're still otherwise inexplicably alive. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 10:15:39 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87u1drwc6b.fsf@enberg.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> <87u1drwc6b.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200303251315.39235.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | Why the fuck would they want to? Most Swedes are not thugs willing | to kill babies just to make some drunk from Texas richer. no, they do it so that they can go out and fuck some more in exchange for money. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 10:21:48 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> begin Andy Smith quotation: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:15:24AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > > Don't fool yourself. If you read the headline: "5000 dead in British > > $natural_disaster" you'd be a lot more shocked than if you read "5000 > > dead in African/chinese/indian/arab/south american $natural_disaster" > > I certainly would. Last time I looked, Britain was not well known > for its volcanoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, tidal waves > etc. etc. > Don't make your case to me. I really don't care how you rationalize your (quite possibly unconcious) racism using dodgy misrepresentations of my basic premise. Try to work it out with your own conscience not with me. Thats where it counts. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Mar 25 10:26:05 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <87he9s8awj.fsf@enberg.org> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> Message-ID: <20030325182605.GC13772@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Jason Sopko quotation: > Henrik Enberg wrote: > > >Maybe in the past, todays US soldiers just don't cut it. A fucking > >Battle Helicopter defeated by a framer with a rifle. Todays generation > >of US soldiers are weaklings. > > The same US soldiers that removed the Taliban from power in Afghanistan > in a matter of months, when the Soviets tried for more than 10 years > with no success? Taking Afghanistan is nothing, keeping it is where you get in the sticky wicket. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gJ87jLHcIq3dHxYRAqj2AKDBCS3y+z6OJjiN7U87KpchS7VcDQCfa5+O /tqx1RC1aQB4oks/7Xq6PC0= =Ey8k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From andy at strugglers.net Tue Mar 25 10:32:05 2003 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:21:48AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > begin Andy Smith quotation: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:15:24AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > > > Don't fool yourself. If you read the headline: "5000 dead in British > > > $natural_disaster" you'd be a lot more shocked than if you read "5000 > > > dead in African/chinese/indian/arab/south american $natural_disaster" > > > > I certainly would. Last time I looked, Britain was not well known > > for its volcanoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, tidal waves > > etc. etc. > > > > Don't make your case to me. I really don't care how you rationalize > your (quite possibly unconcious) racism using dodgy misrepresentations of > my basic premise. > Try to work it out with your own conscience not with me. Thats where > it counts. So are you saying that if 5000 people die in an earthquake centred on Buckingham Palace, and I express more shock over this than when 5000 people die in an earthquake in northern Turkey, that means I'm racist and I have to apologise for it? Come back mcmahon, all is forgiven! As for misrepresentation, how exactly did I do that? Seems that "$natural_disaster" were the exact words used by you, and so I'd be interested to know when the last $natural_disaster that killed 5000+ people in the UK was. Great Fire of London? National Health Service? Tooth decay? From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Mar 25 10:33:06 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325180313.GB22935@callisto.jtan.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325180313.GB22935@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030325183306.GD13772@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Bob Bernstein quotation: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:15:24AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > > > Not at all. But we can all agree it is certainly easier using the > > american moral compass to go to war with a non-white group of people > > than it is to war with whites. > > Just as we can all agree that it is certainly easier for Saddamite > Baathists to hide among women and children after doffing their uniforms! Sir, the Helms amendment and NSC order 725 both specifically prohibit the use of Omega Force against Caucasians. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gKDhjLHcIq3dHxYRAt81AKDNXWI4w1Lsx/Yids/sC4AZ2+dwIQCePVa/ euQLrKEOa874kSmh5glPEuA= =gRLq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 10:36:49 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> References: <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20030325183649.GH24306@zork.net> You are focusing solely on the UK. It doesnt matter that I happened to use that country as an example, any traditionally white country will do. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 10:40:07 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> References: <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20030325184007.GI24306@zork.net> begin Andy Smith quotation: > > So are you saying that if 5000 people die in an earthquake centred > on Buckingham Palace, and I express more shock over this than when > 5000 people die in an earthquake in northern Turkey, that means I'm > racist and I have to apologise for it? > Oh and like I said, don't discuss the gaps in your moral system with me. Don't apologise. Work it out with yourself. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From andy at strugglers.net Tue Mar 25 10:42:48 2003 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325183649.GH24306@zork.net> References: <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325183649.GH24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325184248.GW21363@lug.org.uk> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:36:49AM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > You are focusing solely on the UK. Apologies for responding to what you actually said. Next time I will know better and will respond to the kook inside your head that is pressing the buttons instead! -- "I am the permanent milk monitor of all hobbies!" -- Simon Quinlank From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Tue Mar 25 10:46:23 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325183649.GH24306@zork.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > You are focusing solely on the UK. It doesnt matter that I happened to > use that country as an example, any traditionally white country will > do. Yugoslavia is white. -- "If there's something wrong, I'm outraged by it, but if there is nothing wrong, then I have no problem with it." -- Gavin Newsom From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Mar 25 11:02:56 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20030325190256.GQ26169@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Andy Smith (andy@strugglers.net): > Last time I looked, Britain was not well known for its volcanoes, > earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, tidal waves etc. etc. But a man can dream, can't he? -- Cheers, "That scruffy beard... those suspenders... that smug ex- Rick Moen pression.... You're one of those condescending Unix users!" rick@linuxmafia.com "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a real computer." -- Dilbert From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 11:13:59 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325182605.GC13772@8ball.wox.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> <20030325182605.GC13772@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <200303251413.59670.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Brian Danger Hicks's quote: | Taking Afghanistan is nothing, keeping it is where you get in the | sticky wicket. your dimwitted definition of "nothing" notwithstanding, we've never said we *want* to keep it; indeed, we have endlessly specified that we do not want to keep it. which is what separates our history from that of europe and, really, the rest of the world. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 11:16:14 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200303251416.14565.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin #2 of Berkeley's quote: | Yugoslavia is white. well, on some maps. on newer maps it's not there at all. not long ago, we sent some of our people there to keep some of the locals from killing some of the other, moslem, locals. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 11:23:03 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303251413.59670.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> <20030325182605.GC13772@8ball.wox.org> <200303251413.59670.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030325192303.GJ24306@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > begin Brian Danger Hicks's quote: > > | Taking Afghanistan is nothing, keeping it is where you get in the > | sticky wicket. > > your dimwitted definition of "nothing" notwithstanding, we've never > said we *want* to keep it; indeed, we have endlessly specified that > we do not want to keep it. which is what separates our history from > that of europe and, really, the rest of the world. But its what ties us to the philipines and puerto rico and the virgin islands and hawaii (until it it got bombed and we decided we might as well make it a state) -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Tue Mar 25 11:25:41 2003 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:16:14 EST." <200303251416.14565.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200303251416.14565.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <200303251925.h2PJPfV7003707@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:16:14 EST, dep said: > well, on some maps. on newer maps it's not there at all. not long ago, > we sent some of our people there to keep some of the locals from > killing some of the other, moslem, locals. Of course. Killing Muslim locals is something that can't be trusted to the non-Muslim locals. Only outside help like the US can be trusted to be moral enough to do it right. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 25 11:38:02 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325192303.GJ24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> <20030325182605.GC13772@8ball.wox.org> <200303251413.59670.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325192303.GJ24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325193802.GQ12871@zork.net> begin Simm Al-Aekrib quotation: > But its what ties us to the philipines and puerto rico and the virgin > islands and hawaii (until it it got bombed and we decided we might as > well make it a state) GUAM -- end From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Tue Mar 25 12:43:56 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: Message from Andy Smith of "Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:32:05 GMT." <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1048387651.3b114167c1299@webmail.spamcop.net> <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> I dunno why some folks are having so much trouble understanding Simm Al-Aekrib's point. Try and imagine that the Vietnam war took place some place like France. Would our tactics have been the same? Would we have been defoliating the countryside, burning the villages? "We had to destroy Paris in order to save it." "That's not a *man*, that's a *frog*!" There's a component of racism in American foreign policy. It's not the sole determinant but it's pretty clearly there. From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 12:55:28 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> begin J. M. Brenner quotation: > > I dunno why some folks are having so much trouble > understanding Simm Al-Aekrib's point. My understanding is that they aren't having any trouble with my point. They just refuse to acknowledge thats it is true and instead try to force the discussion into irrelevant things like arguments about whether Colonel Sanders was white and if so, why was he so good at making fried chicken. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 13:00:19 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <200303251600.19993.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin J. M. Brenner's quote: | Try and imagine that the Vietnam war took place some place | like France. Would our tactics have been the same? Would | we have been defoliating the countryside, burning the | villages? "We had to destroy Paris in order to save it." | "That's not a *man*, that's a *frog*!" | | There's a component of racism in American foreign policy. | It's not the sole determinant but it's pretty clearly there. tell it to the residents of dresden. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 13:01:37 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> References: <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303251601.37175.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: | My understanding is that they aren't having any trouble with my | point. They just refuse to acknowledge thats it is true and instead | try to force the discussion into irrelevant things like arguments | about whether Colonel Sanders was white and if so, why was he so | good at making fried chicken. and you're good at making chickenshit. the reason we're not accepting what you're saying is that it is not true and all that remains to be seen is if it's because you're an asshole or merely an ass. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 13:09:32 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:16 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <200303251601.37175.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> <200303251601.37175.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030325210932.GL24306@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: > > | My understanding is that they aren't having any trouble with my > | point. They just refuse to acknowledge thats it is true and instead > | try to force the discussion into irrelevant things like arguments > | about whether Colonel Sanders was white and if so, why was he so > | good at making fried chicken. > > and you're good at making chickenshit. the reason we're not accepting > what you're saying is that it is not true and all that remains to be > seen is if it's because you're an asshole or merely an ass. SOMEBODY FEELS GUILTY :)))))) dep, your apology is accepted. I hope your conscience is at ease. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From radix42 at cox.net Tue Mar 25 13:44:49 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325144410.00bd54a8@pop.west.cox.net> At 06:39 AM 3/25/2003, you wrote: >begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > > > > What I don't understand is that, if we are now the amoral, rogue, > > out-of-control-bully lone superpower, why are we limited to "third > > world" countries? Why not invade some two-for-a-nickel tin-horn > > European countries? I mean, they'll certainly put up less of a fight > > than Iraq! And, it'll give the UN something to talk about!! Sounds > > like win-win to me! > > > > >WHAT?! And kill white people?!? YOU SO CRAZY! Hey, we Americans have killed more white people than anyone but Stalin! From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Mar 25 14:01:59 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325144410.00bd54a8@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325144410.00bd54a8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030325220159.GX26169@linuxmafia.com> Quoting David Mercer (radix42@cox.net): > Hey, we Americans have killed more white people than anyone but Stalin! And when we run out of white people to kill, there are large inventories of white paint on stock with the quartermaster corps. We'll win yet! -- Cheers, "I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate Rick Moen those who do. And, for the people who like country music, rick@linuxmafia.com denigrate means 'put down'." -- Bob Newhart From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 13:57:24 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] saddam's little-known son, ebay, opens fire on canadia Message-ID: <200303251657.24135.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://hb.lycos.com/header?LHS=2&VID=5102&LHM=0&m_PR=49&m_APPID=0 David Ingram received notification that his winning bid of $24.50 had been canceled, along with this message: "At the present time, we do not ship to, or accept bids from, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany or any other country that does not support the United States in our efforts to rid the world of Saddam Hussein. If you are not with us, you are against us." Ingram's .ca address sparked the notice from CompAtlanta, based in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Canada is one of a number of countries that said it would not support an American invasion of Iraq without United Nations' approval. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Mar 25 13:13:14 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <200303251600.19993.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <200303251600.19993.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030325211314.GE13772@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence dep quotation: > tell it to the residents of dresden. http://www.revisionism.nl/Dresden/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gMZojLHcIq3dHxYRAhL1AKDtPtPwUNwjARjdSO4OnTZzIw4O2gCfWHEW L8BHkzwc/SCTILJjfH+tetA= =4PWU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jv at zork.net Tue Mar 25 14:38:27 2003 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: If only... (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] saddam's little-known son, ebay, opens fire on canadia) In-Reply-To: <200303251657.24135.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200303251657.24135.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030325223827.GH7270@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > http://hb.lycos.com/header?LHS=2&VID=5102&LHM=0&m_PR=49&m_APPID=0 > David Ingram received notification that his winning bid of $24.50 had > been canceled, along with this message: "At the present time, we do > not ship to, or accept bids from... country that does not support the > United States in our efforts to rid the world of Saddam Hussein. If > you are not with us, you are against us."... Would only that ebay hasten from pre-eminence into ir-relevance... hurrah for meta-bidding engines. -jv From squinky at dasbistro.com Tue Mar 25 14:42:19 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030325211314.GE13772@8ball.wox.org> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <200303251600.19993.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325211314.GE13772@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030325224219.GB29954@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:13:14PM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > http://www.revisionism.nl/Dresden/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm Take that, Kurt Vonnegut! -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From adam at flounder.net Tue Mar 25 14:27:04 2003 From: adam at flounder.net (Adam McKenna) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> References: <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325222704.GH28044@flounder.net> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 12:55:28PM -0800, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > My understanding is that they aren't having any trouble with my point. > They just refuse to acknowledge thats it is true and instead try to > force the discussion into irrelevant things like arguments about > whether Colonel Sanders was white and if so, why was he so good at > making fried chicken. I believe that your point is true but I don't believe that it's specific to any one particular nation. Every nation places a high importance on its own best interests, and the best interests of its friends and allies. The USA's best friends and allies tend to be mainly white european nations, for many geo-political and historical reasons, and to call that 'racism' is really a gross oversimplification. --Adam From radix42 at cox.net Tue Mar 25 14:58:04 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325220159.GX26169@linuxmafia.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325144410.00bd54a8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030325144410.00bd54a8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325155542.026c9eb8@pop.west.cox.net> At 03:01 PM 3/25/2003, you wrote: >Quoting David Mercer (radix42@cox.net): > > > Hey, we Americans have killed more white people than anyone but Stalin! > >And when we run out of white people to kill, there are large inventories >of white paint on stock with the quartermaster corps. We'll win yet! And after white people, I believe American's have killed more yellow ones that anything else. I think the brown people are secretly jealous over not having nearly so many of them killed by the grinding American War Machine, and just want more attention. Their mommies didn't give them enough when they were little, and all that. From asf at acm.org Tue Mar 25 15:07:15 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <200303251600.19993.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87he9ravvh.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-25, wrote: >| villages? "We had to destroy Paris in order to save it." >| "That's not a *man*, that's a *frog*!" >| >| There's a component of racism in American foreign policy. >| It's not the sole determinant but it's pretty clearly there. > > tell it to the residents of dresden. Or Hiroshima, for that matter. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From asf at acm.org Tue Mar 25 15:09:34 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <200303251226.42425.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <87d6kfavrl.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-25, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: >> is that right? how, then, do your explain our destruction of the >> aryan master race? easy: you can't. you're just babbling braindead > > Aryan master race? That would be the inhabitants of Iraq, last time I looked. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From asf at acm.org Tue Mar 25 15:13:46 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303242141.20141.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87el4w86fy.fsf@enberg.org> <200303250711.49635.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <878yv3avkl.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-25, wrote: > it's nice to know that you believe any damn thing somebody says. It's always good to see someone whose propaganda machine does not lie. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Mar 25 15:15:46 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <87he9ravvh.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <200303251600.19993.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87he9ravvh.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <20030325231546.GF13772@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Andreas Fuchs quotation: > On 2003-03-25, wrote: > >| There's a component of racism in American foreign policy. > >| It's not the sole determinant but it's pretty clearly there. > > > > tell it to the residents of dresden. . <-- the point You - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gOMgjLHcIq3dHxYRAjewAJwJVmDQD0ydmSUUmijuSXxckdKwtQCghI23 CWHGIRW7KdvPKhtr4VoKf0I= =p4sa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 15:15:48 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87d6kfavrl.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> <87d6kfavrl.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Andreas Fuchs's quote: | That would be the inhabitants of Iraq, last time I looked. are you just selecting random words and typing them in, or is there something you're trying but failing to say? -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From asf at acm.org Tue Mar 25 15:27:38 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <200303251600.19993.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87he9ravvh.fsf@eris.void.at> <20030325231546.GF13772@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <87ptof9gd1.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-25, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > commence Andreas Fuchs quotation: >> On 2003-03-25, wrote: >> >| There's a component of racism in American foreign policy. >> >| It's not the sole determinant but it's pretty clearly there. >> > >> > tell it to the residents of dresden. > > . <-- the point That's a period. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Mar 25 15:35:21 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> <87d6kfavrl.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030325233521.GG13772@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence dep quotation: > begin Andreas Fuchs's quote: > > | That would be the inhabitants of Iraq, last time I looked. > > are you just selecting random words and typing them in, or is there > something you're trying but failing to say? Yeah, this guy is totally shithouse crazy, it's the Iranians, not the Iraqis. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gOe4jLHcIq3dHxYRAl1TAJ9s2xKY9+nri+fwmlcdgU5PvyCtQQCgqiCy u9hQ0sz2GLgLrQAjF72obVE= =44fJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From asf at acm.org Tue Mar 25 15:37:20 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> <87d6kfavrl.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87llz39fwv.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-25, wrote: > begin Andreas Fuchs's quote: > >| That would be the inhabitants of Iraq, last time I looked. > > are you just selecting random words and typing them in, or is there > something you're trying but failing to say? It's you having insufficient geographical and historical knowledge. Don't worry, maybe Fox will feature a documentary on that some day. But in the meantime, this should be sufficient: "Arier" was not a word the Nazis chose because it contained so few different consonants. There is an actual tribe of people with that name, who inhabit the arabic peninsula; (parts of) Iraq, to be precise. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From asf at acm.org Tue Mar 25 15:42:18 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> <87d6kfavrl.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325233521.GG13772@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <87he9r9fol.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-25, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: >> are you just selecting random words and typing them in, or is there >> something you're trying but failing to say? > > Yeah, this guy is totally shithouse crazy, it's the Iranians, not the > Iraqis. Damn, you're right. I will never be able to keep these two apart. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Tue Mar 25 15:43:26 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325193802.GQ12871@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> <20030325182605.GC13772@8ball.wox.org> <200303251413.59670.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325192303.GJ24306@zork.net> <20030325193802.GQ12871@zork.net> Message-ID: <1048635805.2231.104.camel@biznatch> On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 11:38, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > GUAM American Samoa, Baker Island, Guam, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Johnston Atoll, Kingman Reef, Midway Islands, Navassa Island, Northern Mariana Islands, Palmyra Atoll, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands (US) and Wake Island And of course, The District of Columbia. -tduffy -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 15:49:37 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87llz39fwv.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87llz39fwv.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <200303251849.37555.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Andreas Fuchs's quote: | "Arier" was not a word the Nazis chose because it contained so few | different consonants. There is an actual tribe of people with that | name, who inhabit the arabic peninsula; (parts of) Iraq, to be | precise. yes, and the navajo live in arizona. your point? -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 16:03:37 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303251849.37555.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87llz39fwv.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303251849.37555.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030326000337.GM24306@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > begin Andreas Fuchs's quote: > > | "Arier" was not a word the Nazis chose because it contained so few > | different consonants. There is an actual tribe of people with that > | name, who inhabit the arabic peninsula; (parts of) Iraq, to be > | precise. > > yes, and the navajo live in arizona. your point? that the aryanians and the ayatollah are coming to eat your liver!!! THE MASTER RACE!!!! Dun dun duuuuunn -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 16:20:44 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030326000337.GM24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303251849.37555.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030326000337.GM24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303251920.44737.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: | that the aryanians and the ayatollah are coming to eat your | liver!!! THE MASTER RACE!!!! Dun dun duuuuunn good. bring 'em on. ain't dinged a diaperhead for nigh onto 9 years. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 16:38:59 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] of course, here it'll be blamed on the trilateral commission Message-ID: <200303251938.59964.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_764488.html?menu=news.latestheadlines UFO could have been electrocuted cat Experts say a reported UFO sighting in Norway was probably an electrocuted cat. People in Lardal reported seeing a fire ball explode in the night sky and fall slowly down to earth. But investigators think they've solved the mystery after the charred body of a cat was found at the foot of an electrical mast. They believe the unlucky cat climbed up the mast and touched a live wire, reports Aftenposten. Lars Helge Sogn says what people saw was the cat exploding and falling off the mast. Story filed: 15:58 Tuesday 25th March 2003 -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From aelmore at interwoven.com Tue Mar 25 16:53:03 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] of course, here it'll be blamed on the trilateral commission In-Reply-To: <200303251938.59964.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200303251938.59964.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030326005303.GV70086@interwoven.com> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:38:59PM -0500, dep wrote: > http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_764488.html?menu=news.latestheadlines > > UFO could have been electrocuted cat > > Experts say a reported UFO sighting in Norway was probably an > electrocuted cat. This is so CLEARLY a coverup! The government of Norway doesn't want YOU to know about UFO feline abduction. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 25 18:24:05 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <87he9r9fol.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> <87d6kfavrl.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325233521.GG13772@8ball.wox.org> <87he9r9fol.fsf@eris.void.at> Message-ID: <20030326022405.GA12871@zork.net> begin Andreas Fuchs quotation: > > Yeah, this guy is totally shithouse crazy, it's the Iranians, not > > the Iraqis. > > Damn, you're right. I will never be able to keep these two apart. You tell me which sounds more like "aryan" to your ear: 1. Iraq 2. Iran Thank you for playing. -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 25 18:26:58 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325155542.026c9eb8@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325144410.00bd54a8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030325144410.00bd54a8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030325155542.026c9eb8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030326022658.GB12871@zork.net> I DEMAND EXPIATION FOR WAR ATROCITIES AGAINST LITTLE GREEN MEN. Damn you and your pulsars. It's an SOS! -- end From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Mar 25 18:26:10 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] San Francisco Message-ID: <20030326022610.GB7095@zgp.org> We don't get cultural opportunities like this in Mountain View. http://www.preventcancer.org/colossalcolon/Tour/sanfrancisco.htm -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti dmarti@zgp.org KG6INA From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 25 18:27:23 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030326022723.GC12871@zork.net> One more ham-faced goon to add to the lovefest. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- matias@k-bell.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 25 18:34:05 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] San Francisco In-Reply-To: <20030326022610.GB7095@zgp.org> References: <20030326022610.GB7095@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20030326023404.GD12871@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > We don't get cultural opportunities like this in Mountain View. > > http://www.preventcancer.org/colossalcolon/Tour/sanfrancisco.htm Sweet. I am so there. -- end From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 18:59:01 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303251920.44737.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030326000337.GM24306@zork.net> <200303251920.44737.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <200303252159.01016.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin dep's quote: | begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: | | that the aryanians and the ayatollah are coming to eat your | | liver!!! THE MASTER RACE!!!! Dun dun duuuuunn | | good. bring 'em on. ain't dinged a diaperhead for nigh onto 9 | years. actually, i should explain the above, which happened, actually, closer to 10 years ago. i was in kuwait, working to help the ministry of information get their television news on the air and their production running smoothly. one bright november afternoon we were driving from the ministry to the hotel, the safir, when i noticed a guy in a car behind and to the right of us sticking the barrel of an ak-47 out the window. i hollered to the driver to step on it, and he did. following a pretty high-speed chase -- difficult in kuwait city, downtown -- and ending up way around on gulf road before some interior ministry guys got the idea there was a problem and, um, solved it. guy turned out to be a pissed-off iranian. when i got back to the hotel, there was a warden message under my door saying that the iranians were all pissed off because rushdie was in the u.s. the iranians take their literary criticism very seriously. i take my dislike of such persons very seriously as well. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 25 19:23:32 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303252159.01016.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030326000337.GM24306@zork.net> <200303251920.44737.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200303252159.01016.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030326032332.GI12871@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > begin dep's quote: > | good. bring 'em on. ain't dinged a diaperhead for nigh onto 9 > | years. > > actually, i should explain the above, which happened, actually, > closer to 10 years ago. No really. You shouldn't. Just get the fuck off my list. -- end From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 19:28:03 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030326032332.GI12871@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303252159.01016.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030326032332.GI12871@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303252228.03485.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's quote: | No really. You shouldn't. Just get the fuck off my list. entirely right. don't know what got into me. send 'em round -- exploding the heads off a couple of islamofascists would be soothing. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From carlos at laviola.org Tue Mar 25 19:32:25 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] saddam's little-known son, ebay, opens fire on canadia In-Reply-To: <200303251657.24135.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200303251657.24135.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030326033225.GA10186@laviola.org> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 04:57:24PM -0500, dep wrote: > http://hb.lycos.com/header?LHS=2&VID=5102&LHM=0&m_PR=49&m_APPID=0 There's nothing on the URL above. -- Carlos Laviola From simm at zork.net Tue Mar 25 19:40:42 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303252159.01016.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030326000337.GM24306@zork.net> <200303251920.44737.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200303252159.01016.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030326034042.GN24306@zork.net> > begin dep's quote: > | begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: > | | that the aryanians and the ayatollah are coming to eat your > | | liver!!! THE MASTER RACE!!!! Dun dun duuuuunn > | > | good. bring 'em on. ain't dinged a diaperhead for nigh onto 9 > | years. You're finally being honest with yourself. Your story was beautiful and poignant, especially when Vin Diesel whot the bad guy. I now completely understand why you harbor hatred for all people of color. Once again, I accept your apologies. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 25 19:45:33 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030326034532.GK12871@zork.net> ____ _ _ / ___| ___| |_ ___ _ _| |_ | | _ / _ \ __| / _ \| | | | __| | |_| | __/ |_ | (_) | |_| | |_ _ \____|\___|\__| \___/ \__,_|\__(_) ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- krylenko@arbornet.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 25 19:48:06 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [carrie@stayfreemagazine.org: [monkeywire] Morocco offers US monkeys to detonate mines] Message-ID: <20030326034806.GL12871@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Carrie McLaren ----- Courtesy of Andrew Hund: Morocco offers US monkeys to detonate mine http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030324-064259-1443r RABAT, D.C., Morocco, March 24 (UPI) -- A Moroccan publication accused the government Monday of providing unusual assistance to U.S. troops fighting in Iraq by offering them 2,000 monkeys trained in detonating land mines. The weekly al-Usbu' al-Siyassi reported that Morocco offered the U.S. forces a large number of monkeys, some from Morocco's Atlas Mountains and others imported, to use them for detonating land mines planted by the Iraqis. The publication quoted a highly-informed source as saying, "that is not a scientific illusion but a well-known military tactic." _______________________________________________ The #1 source for news about monkeys and apes http://www.monkeywire.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Tue Mar 25 19:59:06 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030326034042.GN24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030325225752.H89843-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > > > You're finally being honest with yourself. > Your story was beautiful and poignant, especially when Vin Diesel whot > the bad guy. I now completely understand why you harbor hatred for all > people of color. > > Once again, I accept your apologies. > Speaking of colour: I got banned from #tron, in part because I interupted emad's coloured figlet. From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 19:58:07 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] saddam's little-known son, ebay, opens fire on canadia In-Reply-To: <20030326033225.GA10186@laviola.org> References: <200303251657.24135.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030326033225.GA10186@laviola.org> Message-ID: <200303252258.07386.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Carlos Laviola's quote: | On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 04:57:24PM -0500, dep wrote: | > http://hb.lycos.com/header?LHS=2&VID=5102&LHM=0&m_PR=49&m_APPID=0 | | There's nothing on the URL above. hmmm. works fine here. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 25 20:00:49 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030325225752.H89843-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030326034042.GN24306@zork.net> <20030325225752.H89843-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030326040049.GM12871@zork.net> begin Nikolai Krylenko quotation: > Speaking of colour: I got banned from #tron, in part because I > interupted emad's coloured figlet. Take it up with Dumont. -- end From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 20:00:40 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030326034042.GN24306@zork.net> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <200303252159.01016.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030326034042.GN24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303252300.40856.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Simm Al-Aekrib's quote: | You're finally being honest with yourself. never have been anything but, thanks. your amateur psychiatry is touching, though. | Your story was beautiful and poignant, especially when Vin Diesel | whot the bad guy. I now completely understand why you harbor hatred | for all people of color. actually, this guy was pretty pale. even paler when most of his blood ran out. and a whole lot paler than the gents who altered his perspective. | Once again, I accept your apologies. good. then i get to unload on you twice without apologizing either time. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From radix42 at cox.net Tue Mar 25 20:12:47 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325211239.025a8de8@pop.west.cox.net> At 09:00 PM 3/25/2003, you wrote: >begin Nikolai Krylenko quotation: > > Speaking of colour: I got banned from #tron, in part because I > > interupted emad's coloured figlet. > > Take it up with Dumont. Isn't Dumont still strapped into that spinny chair thing waiting for the MCP to zap him...oh wait, Tron saved him already, or did he die first? From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 25 20:23:29 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325211239.025a8de8@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325211239.025a8de8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030326042329.GO12871@zork.net> begin David Mercer quotation: > Isn't Dumont still strapped into that spinny chair thing waiting for > the MCP to zap him...oh wait, Tron saved him already, or did he die > first? No, you're thinking of Farscape. -- end From radix42 at cox.net Tue Mar 25 20:31:39 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <20030326042329.GO12871@zork.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325211239.025a8de8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030325211239.025a8de8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325213026.0266d1d0@pop.west.cox.net> At 09:23 PM 3/25/2003, you wrote: >begin David Mercer quotation: > > Isn't Dumont still strapped into that spinny chair thing waiting for > > the MCP to zap him...oh wait, Tron saved him already, or did he die > > first? > > No, you're thinking of Farscape. No, haven't had TV in quite a long time, I have no idea which 'Dumont' you were initially referring to, I just threw out a Tron reference on general principle. From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Mar 25 20:37:16 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325213026.0266d1d0@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325211239.025a8de8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030325213026.0266d1d0@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <200303252337.17026.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin David Mercer's quote: | No, haven't had TV in quite a long time, I have no idea which | 'Dumont' you were initially referring to, I just threw out a Tron | reference on general principle. dumont was only on the air from 1946 to 1956, anyway. its big show was "cavalcade of stars." -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From sam at dasbistro.com Tue Mar 25 21:37:59 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! In-Reply-To: <200303251413.59670.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <3E805C37.3060704@sopko.net> <20030325182605.GC13772@8ball.wox.org> <200303251413.59670.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030326053759.GV5420@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:13:59PM -0500, dep wrote: > your dimwitted definition of "nothing" notwithstanding, we've never > said we *want* to keep it; indeed, we have endlessly specified that > we do not want to keep it. I've heard that some people can't get enough of it. And when they do they get sick of it. And then it sits on the shelf and starts to grow green fuzz on the side of it. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From asf at acm.org Tue Mar 25 23:28:43 2003 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babes! References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325173802.GF24306@zork.net> <87d6kfavrl.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303251815.48736.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325233521.GG13772@8ball.wox.org> <87he9r9fol.fsf@eris.void.at> <20030326022405.GA12871@zork.net> Message-ID: <87adfia8no.fsf@eris.void.at> On 2003-03-25, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > You tell me which sounds more like "aryan" to your ear: > > 1. Iraq > 2. Iran 1., Iran. > Thank you for playing. Twas more fun than having a cat chase a laser pointer dot. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From radix42 at cox.net Wed Mar 26 02:49:09 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hot babes! Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030326034858.01771c60@pop.west.cox.net> At 10:37 PM 3/25/2003, you wrote: >On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:13:59PM -0500, dep wrote: > > your dimwitted definition of "nothing" notwithstanding, we've never > > said we *want* to keep it; indeed, we have endlessly specified that > > we do not want to keep it. > >I've heard that some people can't get enough of it. And when they do >they get sick of it. And then it sits on the shelf and starts to grow >green fuzz on the side of it. I happen to agree with both of you, taking Afghanistan is nothing, holding it is the bitch, we don't really want it, and we DO set them free after defeat, if we were really an empire, Germany and Japan WOULD be paying the US VAT. But I do like the bit about green fuzz especially though. From junasts at subdimension.com Wed Mar 26 10:37:08 2003 From: junasts at subdimension.com (junasts@subdimension.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Concern, Worry Message-ID: <20030326183708.GA14774@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> I'm worried that someone is going to actually disprove the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, but by that point everyone's bogofilter will send the results into info hell. -LJS From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Mar 26 11:17:42 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Concern, Worry In-Reply-To: <20030326183708.GA14774@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20030326183708.GA14774@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20030326191742.GM7095@zgp.org> begin junasts@subdimension.com quotation of Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:37:08AM -0800: > I'm worried that someone is going to actually disprove the Heisenberg > Uncertainty Principle, but by that point everyone's bogofilter will send the > results into info hell. Only Mutt users can save Physics now! my_hdr X-Heisenberg: Somebody please think of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle -- Don Marti Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly http://zgp.org/~dmarti demanding DMCA reform is going to get the dmarti@zgp.org injustice of the DMCA in front of the next KG6INA jury. Make noise. It counts. From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Wed Mar 26 12:01:25 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:17 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Those silly Austrians... Message-ID: <1048708884.13971.26.camel@biznatch> ...and their propaganda: http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/03/26/1048354635257.html -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From henrik at enberg.org Wed Mar 26 12:20:16 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Concern, Worry In-Reply-To: <20030326191742.GM7095@zgp.org> (Don Marti's message of "Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:17:42 -0800") References: <20030326183708.GA14774@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20030326191742.GM7095@zgp.org> Message-ID: <87of3xx4lb.fsf@enberg.org> Don Marti writes: > Only Mutt users can save Physics now! Are you implying that only mutt users can add stupid headers? From nick at zork.net Wed Mar 26 14:02:26 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030326220226.GW12871@zork.net> Jennings again? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- nkj@iaminsane.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From aelmore at interwoven.com Wed Mar 26 14:29:05 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030326220226.GW12871@zork.net> References: <20030326220226.GW12871@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030326222905.GC70086@interwoven.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Jennings again? No, no, I think you mean lemmings. From nkj at iaminsane.com Wed Mar 26 14:50:06 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030326222905.GC70086@interwoven.com> References: <20030326220226.GW12871@zork.net> <20030326222905.GC70086@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <20030326225006.GD3284@namodn.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:29:05PM -0800, Andrew Elmore wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > > Jennings again? > > > No, no, I think you mean lemmings. Are you trying to imply I would blindly follow you off a cliff or something? That's quite absurd. - Nick From nick at zork.net Wed Mar 26 15:30:09 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20030326233009.GE12871@zork.net> Ha ha I just rejected his little snively apple mail post, and now he unsubscribes! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- matias@k-bell.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From dep at linuxandmain.com Wed Mar 26 15:29:04 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030326225006.GD3284@namodn.com> References: <20030326220226.GW12871@zork.net> <20030326222905.GC70086@interwoven.com> <20030326225006.GD3284@namodn.com> Message-ID: <200303261829.04395.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Jennings's quote: | Are you trying to imply I would blindly follow you off a cliff or | something? That's quite absurd. that's right. everything around here is eyes wide open. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Wed Mar 26 15:35:33 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030326225006.GD3284@namodn.com> Message-ID: <20030326183436.R33869-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Nick Jennings wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:29:05PM -0800, Andrew Elmore wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > > > > Jennings again? > > > > > > No, no, I think you mean lemmings. > > Are you trying to imply I would blindly follow you off a cliff or > something? That's quite absurd. > Anyone who believes ``The Lemming Myth'' is like a lemming. Why don't you do some research, instead of attacking the truthfullness, accuracy, and legitimacy of this list? From nkj at iaminsane.com Wed Mar 26 15:47:43 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030326183436.R33869-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030326225006.GD3284@namodn.com> <20030326183436.R33869-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030326234743.GE3284@namodn.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:35:33PM -0500, Nikolai Krylenko wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Nick Jennings wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:29:05PM -0800, Andrew Elmore wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:02:26PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > > Jennings again? > > > No, no, I think you mean lemmings. > > Are you trying to imply I would blindly follow you off a cliff or > > something? That's quite absurd. > Anyone who believes ``The Lemming Myth'' is like a lemming. Why don't you > do some research, instead of attacking the truthfullness, accuracy, and > legitimacy of this list? I _WOULD_ but _SOMEONE_ keeps distracting me with absurd and tasteless emails. God, the quality of the list has REALLY gone downhill since last I frequented this little corner of the internet. - Nick From squinky at dasbistro.com Wed Mar 26 15:52:14 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030326234743.GE3284@namodn.com> References: <20030326225006.GD3284@namodn.com> <20030326183436.R33869-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030326234743.GE3284@namodn.com> Message-ID: <20030326235213.GB17127@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 03:47:43PM -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > > I _WOULD_ but _SOMEONE_ keeps distracting me with absurd and tasteless > emails. God, the quality of the list has REALLY gone downhill since last I > frequented this little corner of the internet. 8=============D <-- you know what to do -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From nkj at iaminsane.com Wed Mar 26 16:05:13 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030326235213.GB17127@dasbistro.com> References: <20030326225006.GD3284@namodn.com> <20030326183436.R33869-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030326234743.GE3284@namodn.com> <20030326235213.GB17127@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030327000513.GF3284@namodn.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 03:52:14PM -0800, Not Erik wrote: > > 8=============D <-- you know what to do > |\ | \ | \ | \ | | | | | | yup... |___| [=======] | | | | | | (_) - Nick From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Wed Mar 26 16:12:35 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030327000513.GF3284@namodn.com> Message-ID: <20030326191209.C38453-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Nick Jennings wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 03:52:14PM -0800, Not Erik wrote: > > > > 8=============D <-- you know what to do > > > > > |\ > | \ > | \ > | \ > | | > | | > | | yup... > |___| > [=======] > | | > | | > | | > (_) > I am going to have to read all the archives. From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Mar 26 16:47:58 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030325224219.GB29954@dasbistro.com> References: <1048362533.7f53423c8a27a@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <200303251600.19993.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325211314.GE13772@8ball.wox.org> <20030325224219.GB29954@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030327004758.GW5420@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:42:19PM -0800, Not Erik wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:13:14PM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > > http://www.revisionism.nl/Dresden/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm > > Take that, Kurt Vonnegut! Everyone knows that Kurt Vonnegut is a liberal myth. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Wed Mar 26 17:30:07 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] San Francisco In-Reply-To: Message from Don Marti of "Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:26:10 PST." <20030326022610.GB7095@zgp.org> References: <20030326022610.GB7095@zgp.org> Message-ID: <200303270129.h2R1TeZ47188@mail0.rawbw.com> Don Marti wrote: > We don't get cultural opportunities like this in Mountain View. > > http://www.preventcancer.org/colossalcolon/Tour/sanfrancisco.htm Because it would be redundant. From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Wed Mar 26 17:43:23 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: Message from Simm Al-Aekrib of "Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:55:28 PST." <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> References: <87llz5hfzq.fsf@eris.void.at> <200303231750.08718.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> Message-ID: <200303270142.h2R1guZ51251@mail0.rawbw.com> > begin J. M. Brenner quotation: > > > > I dunno why some folks are having so much trouble > > understanding Simm Al-Aekrib's point. > > My understanding is that they aren't having any trouble with my point. > They just refuse to acknowledge thats it is true and instead try to > force the discussion into irrelevant things like arguments about > whether Colonel Sanders was white and if so, why was he so good at > making fried chicken. Well that's silly. The chicken is awful. The biscuits are okay, though. From squinky at dasbistro.com Wed Mar 26 17:52:50 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <200303270142.h2R1guZ51251@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <20030325013528.GA21198@localhost.localdomain> <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> <200303270142.h2R1guZ51251@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030327015250.GC17127@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 05:43:23PM -0800, J. M. Brenner wrote: > Well that's silly. The chicken is awful. > > The biscuits are okay, though. I always thought the chicken was pretty good, unless you're talking about extra crispy. The extra crispy is kind of yuck. Biscuits are hard to screw up. No points there. The real question lies in the mashed potatoes and gravy, though. The gravy is quite good in my opinion. Tasty, at least, although texture leaves something to be desired, but the mashed potatoes have an unflattering resemblance to, as Colonel Sanders himself put it, wallpaper paste. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From nkj at iaminsane.com Wed Mar 26 18:09:28 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030327015250.GC17127@dasbistro.com> References: <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> <200303270142.h2R1guZ51251@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030327015250.GC17127@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030327020928.GA11155@iaminsane.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 05:52:50PM -0800, Not Erik wrote: > The real question lies in the mashed potatoes and gravy, though. The > gravy is quite good in my opinion. Tasty, at least, although texture > leaves something to be desired, but the mashed potatoes have an > unflattering resemblance to, as Colonel Sanders himself put it, > wallpaper paste. Powder and hot water. The sad part is you can actually taste the hot water. - Nick From dep at linuxandmain.com Wed Mar 26 18:18:27 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030327020928.GA11155@iaminsane.com> References: <20030325133901.GB24306@zork.net> <20030327015250.GC17127@dasbistro.com> <20030327020928.GA11155@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200303262118.27967.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Jennings's quote: | Powder and hot water. The sad part is you can actually taste the | hot water. of course. it's there as flavoring. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From aelmore at interwoven.com Wed Mar 26 18:27:17 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030327020928.GA11155@iaminsane.com> References: <20030325165753.GB22934@localhost.localdomain> <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> <200303270142.h2R1guZ51251@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030327015250.GC17127@dasbistro.com> <20030327020928.GA11155@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030327022717.GD70086@interwoven.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:09:28PM -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > > leaves something to be desired, but the mashed potatoes have an > > unflattering resemblance to, as Colonel Sanders himself put it, > > wallpaper paste. > > Powder and hot water. The sad part is you can actually taste the hot > water. So they're using Hetch-Hetchy water? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/03/26/MN133504.DTL From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Mar 26 19:15:35 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030327022717.GD70086@interwoven.com> References: <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> <200303270142.h2R1guZ51251@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030327015250.GC17127@dasbistro.com> <20030327020928.GA11155@iaminsane.com> <20030327022717.GD70086@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <20030327031534.GX5420@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:27:17PM -0800, Andrew Elmore wrote: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/03/26/MN133504.DTL omigod! I have to write some smarmy article for work by tomorrow. I know! I'll make snooty people drink a bunch of expensive water. And then I'll poison it! -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From tduffy at sun.com Wed Mar 26 21:20:29 2003 From: tduffy at sun.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <20030327022717.GD70086@interwoven.com> References: <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> <200303270142.h2R1guZ51251@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030327015250.GC17127@dasbistro.com> <20030327020928.GA11155@iaminsane.com> <20030327022717.GD70086@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <20030327052029.GE30483@deedeed.eng.sun.com> In the wake of September 11th, Andrew Elmore wrote: > So they're using Hetch-Hetchy water? It all has to do with the switch from chlorine ot chloramine. -tduffy -- YOO-ESS-AYE! YOO-ESS-AYE! From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Thu Mar 27 13:17:54 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: Message from Tom Duffy of "Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:20:29 PST." <20030327052029.GE30483@deedeed.eng.sun.com> References: <20030325171524.GE24306@zork.net> <20030325181051.GU21363@lug.org.uk> <20030325182148.GG24306@zork.net> <20030325183205.GV21363@lug.org.uk> <200303252043.h2PKho861175@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030325205528.GK24306@zork.net> <200303270142.h2R1guZ51251@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030327015250.GC17127@dasbistro.com> <20030327020928.GA11155@iaminsane.com> <20030327022717.GD70086@interwoven.com> <20030327052029.GE30483@deedeed.eng.sun.com> Message-ID: <200303272117.h2RLHnt61457@mail0.rawbw.com> Tom Duffy wrote: > It all has to do with the switch from chlorine to chloramine. Is that why the kitchen sink is smelling like a public swimming pool now? I figured they'd just dumped some extra chlorine in it as a an anti-terrorist move. Guarding the aqueduct all the way from Yosemite probably isn't an option. From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Thu Mar 27 14:41:44 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hot babies on fire In-Reply-To: <200303272117.h2RLHnt61457@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, J. M. Brenner wrote: > > It all has to do with the switch from chlorine to chloramine. > > Is that why the kitchen sink is smelling like a public > swimming pool now? I figured they'd just dumped some > extra chlorine in it as a an anti-terrorist move. yep. The great thing about chloramine is that, unlike chlorine, it doesn't dissipate if you leave it standing overnight. Even boiling doesn't do anything about it. Only activated charcoal will take care of it. PROGRESS! -- "There was never a good war or a bad peace." --Ben Franklin From C.Moosh at rmt.flow.com.au Thu Mar 27 18:11:44 2003 From: C.Moosh at rmt.flow.com.au (C.Moosh@rmt.flow.com.au) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Yes Sir, Commander Howard. Message-ID: <20030328021144.GA18379@rmt.flow.com.au> Rumour is that Australia's tiny PM & some US generals are being considered for Military Governership of Iraq when it falls. Seems little Johnnie sees himself as a military leader: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/21/1047749940939.html I guess he's got to think about his career, now that Australians are realising that we'll be lumped with the bill for this war. Maybe he'll just up our GST to 15% (currently 10%, promise to not be raised) to cover the costs. Quick, to the Bush-bum Mobile! -- Street battles in Iraq - turban warfare. From dep at linuxandmain.com Thu Mar 27 18:27:43 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Yes Sir, Commander Howard. In-Reply-To: <20030328021144.GA18379@rmt.flow.com.au> References: <20030328021144.GA18379@rmt.flow.com.au> Message-ID: <200303272127.44061.dep@linuxandmain.com> it's all the fault of the tri-lateral commission: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=kde-cafe&m=104870620205766&w=2 "* TLC Control Confirmed: CNN Sacks Chung. As I reported yesterday, Phil Donahue was sacked by MSNBC for not being the patriot^Hidiot the Masters want all the media to be. Now it turns out Connie Chung has been sacked by CNN. Query: Does CNN's refusal to air her story on Yale's 'Order of Skull and Bones' (http://www.thememoryhole.org/media/cnn-skull.htm), which presumably would have revealed that Dubya is a member of a foreign-controlled secret society with links to Nazism, anything to do with this? Was she going to reveal that the same people that funded Hitler and Lenin funded Bush?" interesting article, by the chairman of the kde league. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From jmorris at intercode.com.au Sun Mar 30 17:39:39 2003 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Indiana Pi Message-ID: Crazy. -- James Morris From necco at relst8.net Sun Mar 30 20:49:43 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI Message-ID: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> Now really, is there any point of seti@home other than sucking bandwith and being in the "we use a super cool daemon!" club? Initially when I was given a description of seti@home it sounded like another windoez spy-ware scheme. meh -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net | From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sun Mar 30 21:00:23 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> Message-ID: <20030331050023.GJ13772@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Loki Ambrodious von Esling quotation: > Now really, is there any point of seti@home other than sucking bandwith > and being in the "we use a super cool daemon!" club? Initially when I > was given a description of seti@home it sounded like another windoez > spy-ware scheme. Of course it's spyware, except you're spying on our evil alien overlords! - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+h8tljLHcIq3dHxYRAqX/AJ4zN6KtxGfcEDtW9zO2uVPQZqOFQgCg9PKk 45RfFZK9pP0U37kHYIPAhTI= =E1Nn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From simm at zork.net Sun Mar 30 21:04:50 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> Message-ID: <20030331050450.GB13044@zork.net> begin Loki Ambrodious von Esling quotation: > Now really, is there any point of seti@home other than sucking bandwith > and being in the "we use a super cool daemon!" club? Initially when I > was given a description of seti@home it sounded like another windoez > spy-ware scheme. > > meh > > 21:03 <@emad> necco: seti@home would work a lot better if they would get around to making a version that runs on some of the more recently captured alien hardware -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From sam at dasbistro.com Mon Mar 31 10:37:15 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030331050023.GJ13772@8ball.wox.org> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> <20030331050023.GJ13772@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030331183715.GD17666@dasbistro.com> On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 11:00:23PM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > commence Loki Ambrodious von Esling quotation: > > Now really, is there any point of seti@home other than sucking bandwith > > and being in the "we use a super cool daemon!" club? Initially when I > > was given a description of seti@home it sounded like another windoez > > spy-ware scheme. > > Of course it's spyware, except you're spying on our evil alien > overlords! We must watch XENU so that we know if he is hoarding WMD. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Mar 31 11:11:40 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030331183715.GD17666@dasbistro.com> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> <20030331050023.GJ13772@8ball.wox.org> <20030331183715.GD17666@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030331191140.GK13772@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Sam Phillips quotation: > We must watch XENU so that we know if he is hoarding WMD. Free Xenu! He's done his time! - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+iJLrjLHcIq3dHxYRApSSAKCu5khQ/CNfFDm2IfUnZravLIfh0gCgr4z1 jgJLi5NIJbK3luu5Lule6Nc= =6tej -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Mon Mar 31 16:25:38 2003 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:11:40 CST." <20030331191140.GK13772@8ball.wox.org> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> <20030331050023.GJ13772@8ball.wox.org> <20030331183715.GD17666@dasbistro.com> <20030331191140.GK13772@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <200304010025.h310PcWc011632@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:11:40 CST, Brian Danger Hicks said: > Free Xenu! He's done his time! GPL or LGPL? From necco at relst8.net Mon Mar 31 16:58:37 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030331191140.GK13772@8ball.wox.org> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> <20030331050023.GJ13772@8ball.wox.org> <20030331183715.GD17666@dasbistro.com> <20030331191140.GK13772@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030401005837.GA2387@relst8.net> On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 01:11:40PM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > commence Sam Phillips quotation: > > We must watch XENU so that we know if he is hoarding WMD. > > Free Xenu! He's done his time! didn't Rush write a song about him? or isn't he the scientology alien guy? /me = missing #tron -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net | From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Mon Mar 31 17:07:20 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETITE In-Reply-To: <20030401005837.GA2387@relst8.net> Message-ID: <20030331200631.X94960-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Loki Ambrodious von Esling wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 01:11:40PM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > commence Sam Phillips quotation: > > > We must watch XENU so that we know if he is hoarding WMD. > > > > Free Xenu! He's done his time! > > didn't Rush write a song about him? or isn't he the scientology alien > guy? > > Copyright violation. > > > /me = missing #tron Me too. From necco at relst8.net Mon Mar 31 18:48:58 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [as-req'd] new kraftwerk album 99% done Message-ID: <20030401024858.GA2960@relst8.net> http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/interview_43.php few months old but still l33t and relevent -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net | From pabs at pablotron.org Mon Mar 31 11:05:23 2003 From: pabs at pablotron.org (Paul Duncan) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030331050450.GB13044@zork.net> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> <20030331050450.GB13044@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030331190523.GM27611@ns.snowman.net> * Simm Al-Aekrib (simm@zork.net) wrote: > begin Loki Ambrodious von Esling quotation: > > Now really, is there any point of seti@home other than sucking bandwith > > and being in the "we use a super cool daemon!" club? Initially when I > > was given a description of seti@home it sounded like another windoez > > spy-ware scheme. > > 21:03 <@emad> necco: seti@home would work a lot better if they would > get around to making a version that runs on some of the more recently > captured alien hardware I learned everything I know about captured alien hardware from Independence Day. Great GUI. Poor security. Mac-compatible interface. -- Paul Duncan pabs in #gah (OPN IRC) http://www.pablotron.org/ OpenPGP Key ID: 0x82C29562 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://frotz.zork.net/pipermail/crackmonkey/attachments/20030331/6a52853f/attachment.pgp