From brian at 8ball.wox.org  Wed Jan  1 05:16:10 2003
From: brian at 8ball.wox.org (Brian Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
Message-ID: <20030101131610.GA1982@8ball.wox.org>

In honor of Mailman Day, here's a joke:

One day a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel
attached to his crotch. So the bartender says to him,
"You know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?"

And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!"




From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan  1 11:48:12 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030101194812.GV11839@zork.net>

One twitswap and one vanity domain.  Still, the first mailman day of
2003 is bound to shake loose some of the dross.

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From thaytan at mad.scientist.com  Wed Jan  1 12:14:51 2003
From: thaytan at mad.scientist.com (Jan Schmidt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030101194812.GV11839@zork.net>
References: <20030101194812.GV11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030101201451.GB28859@oven>

<quote who="Nick Moffitt">
> One twitswap and one vanity domain.  Still, the first mailman day of
> 2003 is bound to shake loose some of the dross.
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----
> 
> thaytan@bigpond.net.au has been removed from CrackMonkey.
> 
> thaytan@mad.scientist.com has been successfully subscribed to
> CrackMonkey.
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> 

It was my new year resolution to GTFOML

Unfortunately, the list sucks so hard lately, it automatically dragged 
me back in.

Happy New Mailman Year!
-- 
Jan Schmidt                                  thaytan@mad.scientist.com

<stibbons> Yeah.  The whole climax thing would make much more sense
           if I'd paid attention.


From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan  1 13:58:16 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] 2003
Message-ID: <20030101215816.GC31081@zork.net>

The tagline for 2002 was "Dude, where's my T'Khasi Orion?"

In light of http://sc2.sourceforge.net/ the official tagline for 2003
is as follows:

12:22 <@Octal> I, for one, welcome our Ur-Quan Masters.

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From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan  1 14:02:58 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030101220258.GE31081@zork.net>

Goddammit.  We have rules here, and rule #4 or so is no arbitrary
mention of Hitler or Nuasis.  

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From joseph at nuasis.com  Wed Jan  1 16:27:31 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (joseph@nuasis.com)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription
 notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030101220258.GE31081@zork.net>
References: <20030101220258.GE31081@zork.net>
Message-ID: <3E138773.7070000@nuasis.com>

Nick Moffitt wrote:

>Goddammit.  We have rules here, and rule #4 or so is no arbitrary
>mention of Hitler or Nuasis.  
>  
>
Should I have used my godwin.ca account instead?
Or is arbitrary mention of Canadia also forbidden?




From carton at Ivy.NET  Wed Jan  1 17:03:37 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20030101042836.GD1690@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
 (Jeff Waugh's message of "Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:28:36 +1100")
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
 <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net>
 <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
 <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org>
 <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net> <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org>
 <20030101041029.GA27646@pug.chroot.net> <20030101041854.GD11745@oven>
 <20030101042106.GS11839@zork.net>
 <20030101042836.GD1690@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
Message-ID: <oqd6ngjrbq.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "jw" == Jeff Waugh <jdub@perkypants.org> writes:

    jw>   :0 fBw * ^--$ | $SED -e 's/^--$/-- /'

There's the VActive BASICscript solution for you.

Similarly, I've noticed people often make errors of the fashion 'THe'
when they mean to write 'The'.  The following sed filter corrects
these errors so that you need never bother with them again.

sed -e 's/^[{]\(..\)[}]$/{es}\1/' -e 's/$/\
{NL}/' -e 's/ /\
/g'  | sed -e '/^{NL}$/b' -e '/^[A-Z][A-Z][a-z]/!b' -e h -e 's/^.\(.\).*/\1/' -e 'y/ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz/' -e x -e G -e 's/^\(.\).\(.*\)\n\(.*\)/\1\3\2/' | sed -e :start -e N -e 's/\n/ /' -e '/ [{]NL[}]$/!bstart' -e 's/ [{]NL[}]$//' | sed 's/^[{]es[}]\(..\)$/{\1}/'

Haven't you ever thought that maybe the reason sig delimiters are the
way they are, is because someone might want to write '--' in the body
of his or her mail on a line by itself without signaling a
machine-readable signature beginning?  You are a poor architect,
Waugh.

-- 
The army and people of the DPRK led by Kim Jong-il, the invincible
commander, will rise up to mete out determined and merciless
punishment to the US imperialist aggressors
		-- Defence Minister Kim Il-chol


From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan  1 17:24:38 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20030102012438.GG31081@zork.net>

Happy mailman day 2003!

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From mikael at pawlo.com  Wed Jan  1 17:32:37 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] se.fan.rick-moen
In-Reply-To: <20021227071926.GE30256@zork.net>
Message-ID: <v03007800ba394727db84@[10.0.1.2]>

At 23.19 -0800 02-12-26, Nick Moffitt wrote:
>----- Forwarded message from LiquorPig <liquor.pig@pigdog.org> -----
>
>Rick Moen was interviewed recently, and a link to the interview is
>Slashdot's top story at the moment.

What?! No pirate jokes!?

M


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From mikael at pawlo.com  Wed Jan  1 17:38:53 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Only for the wicked
Message-ID: <v03007801ba3948371b46@[10.0.1.2]>

http://god.jul.och.gott.nytt.ar.onskar.nic-se.se/

The infamous pawal - not to be confused with pawlo - wishes you a merry one
(back row, black sweater and steamy smile).

M


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From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan  1 18:20:32 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dr. Evil
Message-ID: <20030102022031.GH31081@zork.net>

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-01/nsf-bbl123102.php
> The achievement is based on a new structure called a "waveguide,"
> ...

I can just imagine a bald laser scientist with a monocle using his
fingers to describe the scare-quotes in the air.

Yeah, waveguides are such fancy new technology I can't wait to MAKE
MINE OUT OF A GODDAMN PRINGLES CAN AND SOME WASHERS.

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From mikael at pawlo.com  Thu Jan  2 05:59:21 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] In the media
Message-ID: <v0300780cba39f636f787@[10.0.1.2]>

Not only Rick Moen gets around these days:
http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/01/01/2336222.shtml?tid=19

"Jay Sulzberger is a high-profile Free Software advocate, best known as Secretary of LXNY."



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From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan  2 12:03:50 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>

DIRECT TO VIDEO

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From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan  2 12:04:03 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030102200403.GO31081@zork.net>

NO THEATRICAL RELEASE

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From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Thu Jan  2 12:48:27 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>
Message-ID: <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>:

> DIRECT TO VIDEO

But I *want* TIVO!

I want all of those Duckman and Larry Sanders re-runs, plus BUFFY! And Will
& Grace. And MST3K!!!!!!

Anyone using Tivo? Any hints?


-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From mikael at pawlo.com  Thu Jan  2 12:58:52 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
 unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>
 <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>
Message-ID: <v03007808ba3a58795cfa@[10.0.1.2]>

At 15.48 -0500 03-01-02, Bob Bernstein wrote:
>Quoting Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>:
>> DIRECT TO VIDEO
>But I *want* TIVO!
>I want all of those Duckman and Larry Sanders re-runs, plus BUFFY! And Will
>& Grace. And MST3K!!!!!!
>Anyone using Tivo? Any hints?

Larry Sanders is really strange, Tivo or not.

Mikael


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From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Thu Jan  2 13:16:53 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <1041542213.3e14ac4552fa2@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Mikael Pawlo <mikael@pawlo.com>:

> Larry Sanders is really strange, Tivo or not.

Strange is funny.

btw, there's no need to cc me. I'm on the list. 


-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From mikael at pawlo.com  Thu Jan  2 13:28:17 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
 unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041542213.3e14ac4552fa2@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net>
 <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>
 <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <v03007809ba3a5f58fa11@[10.0.1.2]>

At 16.16 -0500 03-01-02, Bob Bernstein wrote:
>Quoting Mikael Pawlo <mikael@pawlo.com>:
>> Larry Sanders is really strange, Tivo or not.
>Strange is funny.
>btw, there's no need to cc me. I'm on the list.

That is indeed strange!

M


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From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Thu Jan  2 13:40:21 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041542213.3e14ac4552fa2@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041542213.3e14ac4552fa2@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Mikael Pawlo <mikael@pawlo.com>:

> >btw, there's no need to cc me. I'm on the list.
 
> That is indeed strange!

What's strange and rather disturbing is that I pointed that out to you with
no recourse whatsoever to invective, vitriol, disdain or derision. I need a
drink or a damn cigarette or something. Christ almighty, fuck this.


-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Thu Jan  2 13:38:19 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] lawrence welk was right
Message-ID: <200301021638.19799.dep@linuxandmain.com>

he predicted today: 01 02 03.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From pawal at blipp.com  Thu Jan  2 15:03:01 2003
From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] lawrence welk was right
In-Reply-To: <200301021638.19799.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301021638.19799.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030102230301.GB21142@vic20.blipp.com>

On Thu, 02 Jan 2003, dep wrote:

> he predicted today: 01 02 03.

That is a fucked up way of writing dates.

-- 
patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-733173956
                `-> http://www.gnuheter.com/


From neale at woozle.org  Thu Jan  2 16:24:19 2003
From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] lawrence welk was right
In-Reply-To: <20030102230301.GB21142@vic20.blipp.com> (Patrik Wallstrom's
 message of "Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:03:01 +0100")
References: <200301021638.19799.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20030102230301.GB21142@vic20.blipp.com>
Message-ID: <w53d6nfytak.fsf@woozle.org>

Patrik Wallstrom <pawal@blipp.com> writes:

> On Thu, 02 Jan 2003, dep wrote:
>
>> he predicted today: 01 02 03.
>
> That is a fucked up way of writing dates.

Not to mention a completely non-funny joke.

If I say '01 03 03', have I succesfully predicted tomorrow?  Will dep
post another idiotic joke about it?  And how exactly is saying a date
"predicting" a day?


The joke would have been much funnier like this:

    So Lawrence Welk walks into a bar, and says "a one and a two and a
    three".  The bartender asks, "did you realize that was today's date?"

    And Lawrence Welk says, "Arrr!  It's driving me nuts!"



From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com  Thu Jan  2 18:43:17 2003
From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (Matthew W. Miller)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Declan uses generic prefab SSL-less lynx
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030102143310.01affec8@mail.well.com>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030102143310.01affec8@mail.well.com>
Message-ID: <20030103024317.GC1834@columbus.rr.com>

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:35:47PM -0800, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>My version of lynx doesn't support https URLs

... the poor sap.
-- 
Matthew W. Miller
mwmiller@columbus.rr.com


From mikael at pawlo.com  Thu Jan  2 20:44:28 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] lawrence welk was right
In-Reply-To: <20030102230301.GB21142@vic20.blipp.com>
References: <200301021638.19799.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 <200301021638.19799.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <v03007804ba3ac589a719@[10.0.1.2]>

At 00.03 +0100 03-01-03, Patrik Wallstrom wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Jan 2003, dep wrote:
>> he predicted today: 01 02 03.
>That is a fucked up way of writing dates.

Hey, you are the guy in the santa cap!

M


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From pawal at blipp.com  Thu Jan  2 22:06:58 2003
From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] lawrence welk was right
In-Reply-To: <w53d6nfytak.fsf@woozle.org>
References: <200301021638.19799.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030102230301.GB21142@vic20.blipp.com> <w53d6nfytak.fsf@woozle.org>
Message-ID: <20030103060657.GC21142@vic20.blipp.com>

On Thu, 02 Jan 2003, Neale Pickett wrote:

> >> he predicted today: 01 02 03.
> >
> > That is a fucked up way of writing dates.
> 
> Not to mention a completely non-funny joke.

Well, it was my birthday.

> If I say '01 03 03', have I succesfully predicted tomorrow?  Will dep
> post another idiotic joke about it?  And how exactly is saying a date
> "predicting" a day?

If you're psychic you can call it a prediction. But you have to
combine it with something else, like, 01 03 03 I will order a beer and
tell you all a bad pirate joke.

> The joke would have been much funnier like this:
> 
>     So Lawrence Welk walks into a bar, and says "a one and a two and a
>     three".  The bartender asks, "did you realize that was today's date?"
> 
>     And Lawrence Welk says, "Arrr!  It's driving me nuts!"

Oh.

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                `-> http://www.gnuheter.com/


From nick at zork.net  Fri Jan  3 09:30:45 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030103173045.GD331@zork.net>

ALL HAIL BT AND VERIZON, THE PASTY VASSALS OF THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS
INDUSTREE.

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From nick at zork.net  Fri Jan  3 22:49:35 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030104064935.GN331@zork.net>

Denied.

NO HOTMAILS

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From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Fri Jan  3 23:52:22 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
 unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net> (Bob Bernstein's
 message of "Thu,  2 Jan 2003 16:40:21 -0500")
References: <1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net>
	<20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>
	<1041540507.3e14a59b7cc83@webmail.spamcop.net>
	<1041542213.3e14ac4552fa2@webmail.spamcop.net>
	<1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <87lm214aix.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "BB" == Bob Bernstein <rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us> writes:

    BB> I need a drink or a damn cigarette or something. Christ
    BB> almighty, fuck this.

Man, I love The Bob Bernstein Show.

It's like "Anna Nicole", except, y'know, more Rhode-Island-y.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From nick at zork.net  Sat Jan  4 10:37:15 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net>

KTHXBI

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

daemonguy@nc.rr.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Sat Jan  4 11:51:08 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
 unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of
 "Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:37:15 -0800")
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net>
Message-ID: <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:

    NM> KTHXBI

Ummm... don't you have some things to do today?

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Sat Jan  4 11:55:31 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030104195531.GR331@zork.net>

begin  The Mighty Silverback  quotation:
> Ummm... don't you have some things to do today?

	K IM BLOKIN U NOW

	LOLZ

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From montaigne at att.net  Sat Jan  4 12:55:06 2003
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:51:08AM -0800, Mister Bad wrote:

> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:
> 
>     NM> KTHXBI

That is SO valley-girl.

> Ummm... don't you have some things to do today?

Like ponder what he did to deserve this miserable list with its miserable
subsriber BASE?


-- 
montaigne


From montaigne at att.net  Sat Jan  4 12:55:06 2003
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:51:08AM -0800, Mister Bad wrote:

> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:
> 
>     NM> KTHXBI

That is SO valley-girl.

> Ummm... don't you have some things to do today?

Like ponder what he did to deserve this miserable list with its miserable
subsriber BASE?


-- 
montaigne


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Sat Jan  4 14:08:13 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] molehill oysters
Message-ID: <200301041708.13303.dep@linuxandmain.com>

http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5796227%5E1702,00.html

"MOUSE testicles have reportedly become a hot seller in Taiwan since 
five infertile couples said they conceived after eating dishes 
containing the organs. . . ."

which raises the question of what items were on the list before they 
got around to trying mouse balls.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From thesubjugator at subjugation.org  Sat Jan  4 14:23:25 2003
From: thesubjugator at subjugation.org (Subjugator of Pt Jeff and Conqueror of Long Island)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
	unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
	 <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante>

On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 15:55, Michel de Montaigne wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:51:08AM -0800, Mister Bad wrote:
> 
> > >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:
> > 
> > Ummm... don't you have some things to do today?
> 
> Like ponder what he did to deserve this miserable list with its miserable
> subsriber BASE?

Ha Ha. Someone's getting the stuff expelled by the dross filter.




From henrik at enberg.org  Sat Jan  4 14:30:20 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> (Michel de
 Montaigne's message of "Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:55:06 -0500")
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
	<20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org>

Michel de Montaigne <montaigne@att.net> writes:

> Like ponder what he did to deserve this miserable list with its miserable
> subsriber BASE?

You mean the tards who don't know how to use email and send duplicates?


From dsaklad at gnu.org  Sat Jan  4 16:40:35 2003
From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Temple of Hate  Guide to Problematical Don Saklad Use  http://templeofhate.com/users/rsocha/rant/dsaklad.php
Message-ID: <E18UyqB-00051N-00@fencepost.gnu.org>

Temple of Hate
Guide to Problematical Don Saklad Use 
http://templeofhate.com/users/rsocha/rant/dsaklad.php


From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Sat Jan  4 19:17:36 2003
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] 2003 AI Olympics at Hogwarts January 21 - January 30, 2003  http://www.ai.mit.edu/lab/olympics/03  http://www.ai.mit.edu/lab/olympics
Message-ID: <E18V1I8-0006nq-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

2003 AI Olympics at Hogwarts January 21 - January 30, 2003
http://www.ai.mit.edu/lab/olympics/03
http://www.ai.mit.edu/lab/olympics


From montaigne at att.net  Sat Jan  4 21:37:30 2003
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> <87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:30:20PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote:

> You mean the tards who don't know how to use email and send duplicates?

See the pinhead leap to erroneous conclusion! 

Ha ha indeed.

-- 
montaigne


From thesubjugator at subjugation.org  Sat Jan  4 21:37:40 2003
From: thesubjugator at subjugation.org (Subjugator of Pt Jeff and Conqueror of Long Island)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Temple of Hate  Guide to Problematical Don
	Saklad Use  http://templeofhate.com/users/rsocha/rant/dsaklad.php
In-Reply-To: <E18UyqB-00051N-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
References: <E18UyqB-00051N-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
Message-ID: <1041745060.1877.13169.camel@dante>

On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 19:40, Don Saklad wrote:
> Temple of Hate
> Guide to Problematical Don Saklad Use 
> http://templeofhate.com/users/rsocha/rant/dsaklad.php

How very typical of Robin, mincing words and not making his feelings
clear.  I do wish he'd say what's on his mind...

It's a recurring problem for him.
  
  http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2002/06/msg00336.html




From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Sat Jan  4 22:12:00 2003
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> <87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org> <20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030105061200.GA847@8ball.wox.org>

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> Ha ha indeed.

Are you STILL here?
- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
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From jeremym at loonix.org  Sat Jan  4 22:51:38 2003
From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Temple of Hate blah blah blah
In-Reply-To: <1041745060.1877.13169.camel@dante>
References: <E18UyqB-00051N-00@fencepost.gnu.org> <1041745060.1877.13169.camel@dante>
Message-ID: <20030105065138.GA31848@pug.chroot.net>

On Sun Jan 05, 2003 at 12:37:40AM -0500, Subjugator of Pt Jeff and Conqueror of Long Island wrote:
> It's a recurring problem for him.

I thought Robin was a girl.

-- 
Jeremy McLeod
jeremym@loonix.org


From montaigne at att.net  Sat Jan  4 23:16:08 2003
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030105061200.GA847@8ball.wox.org>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> <87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org> <20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain> <20030105061200.GA847@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <20030105071608.GC3294@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 12:12:00AM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote:

> Are you STILL here?

Work with me baby. Work with me.

Ya gotta give action ta get action...

-- 
montaigne


From henrik at enberg.org  Sun Jan  5 05:44:42 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain> (Michel de
 Montaigne's message of "Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:37:30 -0500")
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org>
	<20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>
	<87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org>
	<20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <87znqfsoc5.fsf@enberg.org>

Michel de Montaigne <montaigne@att.net> writes:

> See the pinhead leap to erroneous conclusion! 

Ha ha the old "I made a mess and try to pretend it was intentional"
gambit. 

Fuck, even 3rd-rate trolls ought to know better.  Shape up or get the
fuck off my internet.


From montaigne at att.net  Sun Jan  5 11:31:40 2003
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <87znqfsoc5.fsf@enberg.org>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> <87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org> <20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain> <87znqfsoc5.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <20030105193139.GD3294@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:44:42PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote:

> Ha ha the old "I made a mess and try to pretend it was intentional"
> gambit. 

You are wrong again camel-dung breath. I am merely following, with due
poetic license (something that is clearly lost on you) the spirit of this
maginficent thread as it unfolds in wondrous cyberspace. Nitwit.

> Fuck, even 3rd-rate trolls ought to know better.  Shape up or get the
> fuck off my internet.

Wheee! This easier than shooting fish in a barrel!

-- 
montaigne


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Sun Jan  5 11:41:56 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My Friends Got Married...
Message-ID: <87bs2vjse3.fsf@pigdog.org>

...and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From montaigne at att.net  Sun Jan  5 11:31:40 2003
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <87znqfsoc5.fsf@enberg.org>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> <87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org> <20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain> <87znqfsoc5.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <20030105193139.GD3294@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:44:42PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote:

> Ha ha the old "I made a mess and try to pretend it was intentional"
> gambit. 

You are wrong again camel-dung breath. I am merely following, with due
poetic license (something that is clearly lost on you) the spirit of this
maginficent thread as it unfolds in wondrous cyberspace. Nitwit.

> Fuck, even 3rd-rate trolls ought to know better.  Shape up or get the
> fuck off my internet.

Wheee! This easier than shooting fish in a barrel!

-- 
montaigne


From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Sun Jan  5 17:35:08 2003
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] A study in kibology
Message-ID: <E18VMAW-0002Ek-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

A study in kibology
[ http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=socha%20saklad&safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&lr=&num=100&as_scoring=d&hl=en ]


From nick at zork.net  Sun Jan  5 19:58:58 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20030106035858.GA331@zork.net>

HOW WILL WE SUCCEED IN THE MARKETPLACE WITHOUT THE VALUABLE UNIX
TRADEMARK??????

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

jesux@unix.tm has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From lists at kassube.de  Sun Jan  5 09:45:43 2003
From: lists at kassube.de (Larry Ists)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Temple of Hate  Guide to Problematical Don
 Saklad Use  http://templeofhate.com/users/rsocha/rant/dsaklad.php
In-Reply-To: <1041745060.1877.13169.camel@dante> (Subjugator of Pt Jeff and
 Conqueror of Long Island's message of "05 Jan 2003 00:37:40 -0500")
References: <E18UyqB-00051N-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
	<1041745060.1877.13169.camel@dante>
Message-ID: <81isx3ebi0.fsf@darwin.lan.kassube.de>

Lots of English language insults to learn for our 
foreign subscribers: 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/worst_of_qmail/





From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu  Sun Jan  5 15:51:34 2003
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST."
             <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> 
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>
            <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <200301052351.h05NpY33028108@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST, Subjugator of Pt Jeff and Conqueror of Long Island <thesubjugator@subjugation.org>  said:
> Ha Ha. Someone's getting the stuff expelled by the dross filter.

Either the damned thing got installed backward, or the technical term
for the "someone" is "subscribers".

We're obviously well past the point where dross burnout sets in:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:40:21 EST, Bob Bernstein <rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us>  said:
> What's strange and rather disturbing is that I pointed that out to you with
> no recourse whatsoever to invective, vitriol, disdain or derision. I need a
> drink or a damn cigarette or something. Christ almighty, fuck this.

Obviously either severe burnout or upper management allowed him to have his
gruntle surgically re-implanted.



From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Sun Jan  5 21:04:49 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST."             <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>            <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net> Your message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST."             <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante>
Message-ID: <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu:

> Obviously either severe burnout or upper management allowed him to have
> his gruntle surgically re-implanted.

I need a frontal gruntlectomy. Who's got the icepick?

-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From joseph at nuasis.com  Sun Jan  5 21:07:14 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (joseph@nuasis.com)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe
 notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>            <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net> Your message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST."             <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <3E190F02.6000205@nuasis.com>

Bob Bernstein wrote:

>I need a frontal gruntlectomy. Who's got the icepick?
>  
>
If you can get it out from my forehead, it's yours.

- Joe



From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Sun Jan  5 21:34:13 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>            <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net> Your message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST."             <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <1041831253.3e1915550e0c7@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting joseph@nuasis.com:

> If you can get it out from my forehead, it's yours.

There's no "if" about it; two words: Makita pneumatic.


-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From jdub at perkypants.org  Sun Jan  5 21:39:48 2003
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My Friends Got Married...
In-Reply-To: <87bs2vjse3.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <87bs2vjse3.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030106053948.GN11642@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>

<quote who="Mister Bad">

> ...and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

I refuse to believe until I see pictures!

- Jeff

-- 
                              Acts of random.                               


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Sun Jan  5 22:56:10 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My Friends Got Married...
In-Reply-To: <20030106053948.GN11642@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
References: <87bs2vjse3.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030106053948.GN11642@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
Message-ID: <20030106065610.GF331@zork.net>

begin  Jeff Weff  quotation:
> <quote who="Mister Bad">
> > ...and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
> 
> I refuse to believe until I see pictures!

	You would.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From joseph at nuasis.com  Sun Jan  5 23:29:41 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (joseph@nuasis.com)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe
 notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041831253.3e1915550e0c7@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>            <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net> Your message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST."             <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041831253.3e1915550e0c7@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <3E193065.6050908@nuasis.com>

Bob Bernstein wrote:

 >Quoting joseph@nuasis.com:
 >
 >>If you can get it out from my forehead, it's yours.
 >
 >There's no "if" about it; two words: Makita pneumatic.

... nail gun?

If you have one of those, then why bother with the ice pick?

- Joe




From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu  Mon Jan  6 07:21:46 2003
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2003 23:29:41 PST."
             <3E193065.6050908@nuasis.com> 
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net> "Your message of Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST." <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041831253.3e1915550e0c7@webmail.spamcop.net>
            <3E193065.6050908@nuasis.com>
Message-ID: <200301061521.h06FLl33001152@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 23:29:41 PST, joseph@nuasis.com  said:

> ... nail gun?
> 
> If you have one of those, then why bother with the ice pick?

Even in this day and age of power paint sprayers, artists insist on
using the small hand-held variety.


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Mon Jan  6 10:32:23 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041831253.3e1915550e0c7@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain>            <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net> Your message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST."             <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041831253.3e1915550e0c7@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041831253.3e1915550e0c7@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <1041877943.3e19cbb79df69@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting joseph@nuasis.com:

> ... nail gun?
> 
> If you have one of those, then why bother with the ice pick?

My bad. I had a hammer (put a chisel in that bad boy) in mind, but all of
Makita's are electric. (As you note, they do make pneumatic nailers...)

-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Mon Jan  6 10:35:55 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2003 23:29:41 PST."             <3E193065.6050908@nuasis.com>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041543621.3e14b1c57dbe3@webmail.spamcop.net> "Your message of Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:23:25 EST." <1041719005.1877.384.camel@dante> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041829489.3e190e71b50a5@webmail.spamcop.net> <1041831253.3e1915550e0c7@webmail.spamcop.net>            <3E193065.6050908@nuasis.com> Your message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2003 23:29:41 PST."             <3E193065.6050908@nuasis.com>
Message-ID: <1041878155.3e19cc8b1ed82@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu:


> > ... nail gun?
> >
> > If you have one of those, then why bother with the ice pick?
> 
> Even in this day and age of power paint sprayers, artists insist on
> using the small hand-held variety.

Yes, which is why I want to power-chisel his out of his forehead! There
should be minimal collateral damage, and perhaps too the added fringe
benefit of an impromptu trepanning.

-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From nick at zork.net  Mon Jan  6 10:55:12 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20030106185512.GK331@zork.net>

Bubye Vernon.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

vmarshall@linuxfreemail.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From nick at zork.net  Mon Jan  6 13:50:34 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Behold the Philippine law enforcement
Message-ID: <20030106215034.GS331@zork.net>

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/021222/170/2wwc9.html&e=8&ncid=996
> The Philippine police has enhanced security in shopping malls and
> other public places to counter the threats of terrorist attacks or
> bombings this holiday season. Selected police officers were tasked
> to wear mascot costumes as they patrol the shopping malls in the
> capital to make their presence less obtrusive and more friendly. 

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From nick at zork.net  Mon Jan  6 14:07:18 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net>

Fuck, not YOU again.

	LEARN PROCMAIL

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

crackmonkey@bb-zone.com has been successfully subscribed to
CrackMonkey.



----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From squinky at dasbistro.com  Mon Jan  6 14:13:16 2003
From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030105193139.GD3294@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20030104183715.GQ331@zork.net> <87u1gok82b.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030104205505.GA3294@localhost.localdomain> <87hecopmyr.fsf@enberg.org> <20030105053730.GB3294@localhost.localdomain> <87znqfsoc5.fsf@enberg.org> <20030105193139.GD3294@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030106221316.GB8662@dasbistro.com>

On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Michel de Montaigne wrote:
> Wheee! This easier than shooting fish in a barrel!

HA HA YHBT I GET IT

-- 
not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/


From crackmonkey at bb-zone.com  Mon Jan  6 14:41:58 2003
From: crackmonkey at bb-zone.com (me again)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
	subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net>
References: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net>
Message-ID: <1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux>

On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 14:07, Nick Moffitt wrote:

> Fuck, not YOU again.
    
Hey, now that I have the shirt, I need the scoop ...

> LEARN PROCMAIL

I did, years back when I still was able to pick up new things. Now I use
it every day, sometimes I get up at night just to change some settings,
it's soooo much fun!

BB





From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Mon Jan  6 14:48:52 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux>
References: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net> <1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux>
Message-ID: <20030106224852.GU331@zork.net>

begin  Kaiser of the Nine Krautscapes  quotation:
> Hey, now that I have the shirt, I need the scoop ...

	LIMITED EDITION SHIRT I MIGHT ADD!

> > LEARN PROCMAIL
> 
> I did, years back when I still was able to pick up new things. Now I
> use it every day, sometimes I get up at night just to change some
> settings, it's soooo much fun!

	So why the hell do you have to set up a new address just for
this list?

Consider:


:0:
* ^(X-list: |Sender: owner-|X-BeenThere: |Delivered-To: mailing list |X-(Mailing-)?List: <|X-Loop: )\/[-A-Za-z0-9_+]+
inboxes/$MATCH


> BB

	I COULD TELL BY YOUR BEADY LITTLE EYES

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From crackmonkey at bb-zone.com  Mon Jan  6 15:12:21 2003
From: crackmonkey at bb-zone.com (me again)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
	subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030106224852.GU331@zork.net>
References: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net>
	<1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux>  <20030106224852.GU331@zork.net>
Message-ID: <1041894741.1733.25.camel@bodolinux>

On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 14:48, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San
Francisco wrote:
> begin  Kaiser of the Nine Krautscapes  quotation:
> > Hey, now that I have the shirt, I need the scoop ...
>
>	LIMITED EDITION SHIRT I MIGHT ADD!
    
Which I'm very thankful for, a nice surprise.

> > > LEARN PROCMAIL
> > 
> > I did, years back when I still was able to pick up new things. Now I
> > use it every day, sometimes I get up at night just to change some
> > settings, it's soooo much fun!
>
>	So why the hell do you have to set up a new address just for
> this list?
>

Because I can :) And who says it's just for this list? Seems like the
address of choice to order all kind of drugs online, just in case I
don't feel like stepping out in front of my house and talk to those
PEOPLE. It also helps my aging brain to keep track of whom I met where
just by my email address, you should give it a shot.

> Consider:
>
> :0:
> * ^(X-list: |Sender: owner-|X-BeenThere: |Delivered-To: mailing list |X-(Mailing-)?List: <|X-Loop: )\/[-A-Za-z0-9_+]+
> inboxes/$MATCH
    
Actually I lied, I'm using sieve with my IMAP server these days. Server
side filters have their advantage if you want to read your mail from a
variety of locations (work/home/Web/...). And no need to send me a
filter expression, I already installed one...

If it really bothers you I can resubscribe using my regular address, but
why would YOU mind? I think everybody on the list should subscribe as
crackmonkey... Don't be so difficult damn it!

Need to go...




From carton at Ivy.NET  Mon Jan  6 15:57:40 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>
 (Nick Moffitt's message of "Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:03:50 -0800")
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net>
Message-ID: <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "mm" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:

    mm> tduffy@directvinternet.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.

They just changed their AUP, so over the next few weeks you'll see
their outraged subscribers flock to speakeasy by the thousands.

-- 
The army and people of the DPRK led by Kim Jong-il, the invincible
commander, will rise up to mete out determined and merciless
punishment to the US imperialist aggressors
		-- Defence Minister Kim Il-chol


From carton at Ivy.NET  Mon Jan  6 16:10:24 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:51 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Behold the Philippine law enforcement
In-Reply-To: <20030106215034.GS331@zork.net>
 (Nick Moffitt's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:50:34 -0800")
References: <20030106215034.GS331@zork.net>
Message-ID: <oqptr9akgf.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "mm" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:

    mm> Selected police officers were tasked to wear mascot costumes

``Ping'' Lacson's so-called Anti-organized-crime Task Force was
notorious for kidnapping Chinese-Filipinos for ransom, collecting,
then pretending to heroically find the kidnapee.

-- 
Is this one of those ``double-sided'' records?
		-- Jo


From squinky at dasbistro.com  Mon Jan  6 16:40:14 2003
From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Behold the Philippine law enforcement
In-Reply-To: <oqptr9akgf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <20030106215034.GS331@zork.net> <oqptr9akgf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20030107004014.GF8662@dasbistro.com>

On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 07:10:24PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote:
> ``Ping'' Lacson's so-called Anti-organized-crime Task Force was
> notorious for kidnapping Chinese-Filipinos for ransom, collecting,
> then pretending to heroically find the kidnapee.

...all while dressed like Mister Peanut.

-- 
not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/


From kra at monkey.org  Mon Jan  6 18:09:28 2003
From: kra at monkey.org (Karl Anderson)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:48:52 -0800"
References: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net> <1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux> <20030106224852.GU331@zork.net>
Message-ID: <m3k7hhyalj.fsf@localhost.localdomain>

Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes:

> :0:
> * ^(X-list: |Sender: owner-|X-BeenThere: |Delivered-To: mailing list |X-(Mailing-)?List: <|X-Loop: )\/[-A-Za-z0-9_+]+
> inboxes/$MATCH

Suboptimal, causes too much confusion on Mailman Day.

-- 
Karl Anderson      kra@monkey.org           http://monkey.org/~kra/


From tomduffy at dslextreme.com  Mon Jan  6 18:15:16 2003
From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey	unsubscribe
 notification]
In-Reply-To: <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <1041905716.13211.9.camel@ovid.eng.sun.com>

On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 15:57, Miles Nordin wrote:
> >>>>> "mm" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:
> 
>     mm> tduffy@directvinternet.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.
> 
> They just changed their AUP, so over the next few weeks you'll see
> their outraged subscribers flock to speakeasy by the thousands.

Yeah, their new AUP is:

- You are not allowed to open any ports to any other machine either as a
server or as a client.

That is why I switched.

-tduffy



From Edward.Lang at anu.edu.au  Mon Jan  6 18:24:27 2003
From: Edward.Lang at anu.edu.au (Edward C. Lang)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Can Rob Levin actually get a life?
In-Reply-To: <20021231084849.GA891@panax.com>
References: <20021231084849.GA891@panax.com>
Message-ID: <1041906266.26420.0.camel@protein>

On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 19:48, Patrick McFarland wrote:
> Seriously, is it actually possible for lilo to get a life? I think it may be
> possible, if he gets his head out of his ass, and quits with the *sighgrin*
> shit. 

Why don't you ask him what the status is?

-- 

http://www.tsumakin.net/



From dep at linuxandmain.com  Mon Jan  6 18:21:57 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo hosts "poison the infidel"
Message-ID: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com>

http://www.geocities.com/ithap2002/poisons.pdf

"As I was learning from people whose first language was not English, 
some of the names of chemicals, properties, etc., are  wrong. (So) Be 
very careful when preparing poisons. It is much, much more dangerous 
than when preparing explosives. I know several Mujahids whose bodies 
are finished due to poor protection etc. On the positive side, you 
can be confident that the poisons have actually been tried and tested 
(successfully, he he!)"
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From Edward.Lang at anu.edu.au  Mon Jan  6 18:26:28 2003
From: Edward.Lang at anu.edu.au (Edward C. Lang)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
	 <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net>
	 <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
	 <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <1041906388.26428.2.camel@protein>

On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 06:07, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San
Francisco wrote:
> 	A Web log is like the old public bookmark files on the
> exturnet.  It's a collection of links with commentary.  A diary is
> just writing about your day, your life, your experiences.  

I'm not taking your word for it until I see your article in print,
Mister.

-- 

http://www.tsumakin.net/



From rick at linuxmafia.com  Mon Jan  6 18:57:18 2003
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey	unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041905716.13211.9.camel@ovid.eng.sun.com>
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat> <1041905716.13211.9.camel@ovid.eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting Tom Duffy (tomduffy@dslextreme.com):

[DirecTV Internet:]

> Yeah, their new AUP is:
> 
> - You are not allowed to open any ports to any other machine either as a
> server or as a client.

I'm idly curious as to whether that will be enforced against customers
who leave MS-Windows File Sharing enabled.  Ideally, organisational
stupidity should be consistently applied.

-- 
Cheers,                                      "My file system's got no nodes!"
Rick Moen                                    "How does it shell?"
rick@linuxmafia.com  


From carlos at laviola.org  Mon Jan  6 19:14:14 2003
From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <m3k7hhyalj.fsf@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net> <1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux> <20030106224852.GU331@zork.net> <m3k7hhyalj.fsf@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030107031414.GA2009@laviola.org>

On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 06:09:28PM -0800, Karl Anderson wrote:
> Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes:
> 
> > :0:
> > * ^(X-list: |Sender: owner-|X-BeenThere: |Delivered-To: mailing list |X-(Mailing-)?List: <|X-Loop: )\/[-A-Za-z0-9_+]+
> > inboxes/$MATCH
> 
> Suboptimal, causes too much confusion on Mailman Day.

:0
* !^From: .*mailman-owner@
* !^Subject: .* mailing list memberships reminder
* !^List-Id: Multiple lists at
* ^(X-list: |Sender: owner-|X-BeenThere: |Delivered-To: mailing list |X-(Mailing-)?[lL]ist: <?|X-Loop: )\/[-A-Za-z0-9_+]+
{
        :0wic
        | mkdir -p lists
        :0w: .lists.lock
        lists/$MATCH/
}

:0
* ^Sender: \/[-A-Za-z0-9_+]+-(request|approval|owner)
* MATCH ?? ()\/[^-@]+
{
        :0wic
        | mkdir -p lists
        :0w: .lists.lock
        lists/$MATCH/
}

kthx

-- 
Carlos Laviola <carlos@laviola.org>


From carton at Ivy.NET  Mon Jan  6 19:36:47 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey	unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com>
 (Rick Moen's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:57:18 -0800")
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat>
 <1041905716.13211.9.camel@ovid.eng.sun.com>
 <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <oqk7hhaawg.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "rm" == Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes:

    rm> I'm idly curious as to whether that will be enforced against
    rm> customers who leave MS-Windows File Sharing enabled.  

Yeah, they like, went out of business or something.  As usual, without
giving their subscribers any warning.  I guess that's what
``competition'' is all about---the only way to get reliable long-term
service is to bend over and ally yourself with the most evil sodomist
Keiretsu you can find, and then hope you get lucky.  Long live Covad
and all, but, shit.

    rm> Ideally, organisational stupidity should be consistently
    rm> applied.

dude.

-- 
Ignorance is always brave.


From simm at zork.net  Mon Jan  6 19:53:09 2003
From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo hosts "poison the infidel"
In-Reply-To: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030107035309.GB26452@zork.net>

begin  dep  quotation:
> http://www.geocities.com/ithap2002/poisons.pdf

uhh, how is this any different than the crap found in the anarchist's
cookbook? Do i need to find geocities websites that are hosting it?
will i then be as cool as you? 
Subject: Yahoo hosts "how to poison the government supporters :)))))"





-- 
Simm Al-Aekrib                          |   Optical Illusion Fun!!
"I have a prodigious quantity of mind;  |        )----------(
it takes me as much as a week           |        (----------) 
sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain |  Which line is longer???





From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Jan  7 09:09:43 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041894741.1733.25.camel@bodolinux>
References: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net> <1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux> <20030106224852.GU331@zork.net> <1041894741.1733.25.camel@bodolinux>
Message-ID: <20030107170943.GW331@zork.net>

begin  Kaiser of the Nine Krautscapes  quotation:
> I think everybody on the list should subscribe as crackmonkey...

	Forfiku vin, trolo!

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Jan  7 09:10:07 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <m3k7hhyalj.fsf@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net> <1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux> <20030106224852.GU331@zork.net> <m3k7hhyalj.fsf@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030107171007.GX331@zork.net>

begin  Karl Anderson  quotation:
> Suboptimal, causes too much confusion on Mailman Day.

	I have a rule before that to catch mailman day announcements.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From carton at Ivy.NET  Tue Jan  7 10:48:12 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo hosts "poison the infidel"
In-Reply-To: <20030107035309.GB26452@zork.net>
 (Simm Al-Aekrib's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:53:09 -0800")
References: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 <20030107035309.GB26452@zork.net>
Message-ID: <oqel7o23v7.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "sa" == Simm Al-Aekrib <simm@zork.net> writes:

    sa> how is this any different than the crap found in the
    sa> anarchist's cookbook?

Don't have a cow, man.  

He was just being patriotic.  

Do you live in New York?  Then you wouldn't understand.

-- 
Over the last 200 years, the United States acquired a considerable
amount of ideological credit. But these days, the United States is
running through this credit even faster than it ran through its gold
surplus in the 1960s.		-- Immanuel Wallerstein


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Tue Jan  7 11:06:00 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey	unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> (Rick Moen's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:57:18 -0800")
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat> <1041905716.13211.9.camel@ovid.eng.sun.com> <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> (Rick Moen's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:57:18 -0800")
Message-ID: <1041966360.3e1b251835457@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Miles Nordin <carton@Ivy.NET>:

> sodomist

Sodomite is to be preferred, as exemplified by Webster's Unabridged:

$ dict sodomist
1 definition found

From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Tue Jan  7 11:42:50 2003
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [alt.religion.kibology] Re: Dear Kibo
Message-ID: <y44u1gkbvb9.fsf@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

 Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
 http://groups.google.com

 From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
 Subject: Re: Dear Kibo
 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:29:58 GMT
 Organization: http://www.kibo.com

Warning:  Rant ahead.

Lots42 (lots42@aol.com) wrote:
>
>  Please understand that the library internet terminals have rules that
>  apply to you, yes you. Sitting at the fifteen minute one for an hour at
>  a time, having to go through it rebooting every fifteen minutes is silly. 
>  
>  Sincerly.
>  Crazy Library Volunteer Person

At the Boston Public Library, I think a lot of people head right
to the card-catalog computers ("NO INTERNET ON THIS COMPUTER") which
are running a Web browser in "Kiosk mode" (i.e. with all the controls
hidden so you can't leave the card catalog site) but usually you can
just press Alt-Tab because someone left a real Internet Explorer running
behind it, and if there's not already an Internet Explorer you can
switch to, select "Print..." then click the "Help" button and then tell
it you want the latest "Online Help" from Microsoft's Web site and bingo,
Internet Explorer will ask "Where do you want to go today?"

I get the feeling that everyone at the Boston Public Library has figured
this out except for the librarians and the people who wait in line for hours
to use the "public" computers, because if you walk down the long line of
card catalog computers and press Alt-Tab on each of them, people have
already spawned Internet Explorers on most of them via the "Print..."
help system.

And it's not like any of this is a big secret -- anyone who sets up
computers for a living will know that if you put a computer in the public
place, especially if it has a free high-speed Internet connection,
people will try certain simple things to use it the way the use it at
home, so you need to restrict access to absolutely everything people
aren't supposed to have access to instead of just assuming they won't
have read a Windows instruction manual.  People will press Alt-Tab,
they will see if they can get to the "Run..." prompt, they will try
to reboot while pressing "F8", they will download and install programs,
they will do all sorts of things to get around the restrictions.
In the same way that a door that says "DO NOT ENTER" should actually
be locked, a computer that says not to misuse it needs to be thoroughly
secured so it's very, very hard to misuse.

People SHOULD follow the rules when using the library's computers, but
also the library should have more "public" computers because when the
card catalog computers nobody uses outnumber the few "public" ones
everyone wants to use, many people WON'T follow the rules.  People
like free high-speed Internet access, and of course jerks such as people
who want a way to send out spam anonymously aren't going to care about
what a sign says.

The librarians might also consider asking someone how to remove
Internet Explorer from the computers, how to prevent people from
re-installing Internet Explorer, or how to configure the firewall
not to allow the computers to connect to sites the library doesn't
operate (if they have a firewall, they're bozos for not setting it
up to block the sorts of access they don't want you to have, and
if they don't have a firewall, they're mega-bozos.)  A paper sign
saying "NO INTERNET ON THIS COMPUTER" is not the same as actually
flipping the switch that makes there be no Internet on this computer.

Not that I would ever need to use any of their computers, of course,
because I almost always have my laptop with me, and Newbury Open.Net
(a wireless Internet gateway that advertises that anyone's allowed to
use it) is just around the corner.  (And there's no way I'd ever do
anything like sending mail through a Web browser that's shared with random
other people, because you never know if someone's installed a keystroke-logger
or packet-sniffer that will snoop on you.)  But when I was spending some
time in the library lobby last month (waiting to meet friends) of course
I glanced at the screens of the unoccupied computers and most of them had
a Taskbar tile marked "Internet Explorer: Yahoo" or whatever people had
been surfing.

I have no idea if the librarians (or security personnel) stroll by
every once in a while to keep people from misusing those computers --
of course, the card catalog is a Web browser window that looks more
or less like a lot of other sites, and I would assume people could
just type Alt-Tab whenever anyone's coming.  But like I said, if the
library were really concerned about this (and they should be), the easiest
solution for them would be to just configure their network so that those
computers COULDN'T connect to the rest of the Internet.

                                      -- K.

                                         The question is, will Don Saklad
                                         disappear when the librarians
                                         get a clue and switch this off?


From kra at monkey.org  Tue Jan  7 13:38:45 2003
From: kra at monkey.org (Karl Anderson)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey	unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: Bob Bernstein's message of "Tue,  7 Jan 2003 14:06:00 -0500"
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat> <1041905716.13211.9.camel@ovid.eng.sun.com> <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> <1041966360.3e1b251835457@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <m3znqcwsgq.fsf@localhost.localdomain>

Bob Bernstein <rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us> writes:

> Quoting Miles Nordin <carton@Ivy.NET>:
> 
> > sodomist
> 
> Sodomite is to be preferred...

Whatever drives ye nuts.

-- 
Karl Anderson      kra@monkey.org           http://monkey.org/~kra/


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Tue Jan  7 12:40:21 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo hosts "poison the infidel"
In-Reply-To: <oqel7o23v7.fsf@balthasar.nat> (Miles Nordin's message of "Tue,
 07 Jan 2003 13:48:12 -0500")
References: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20030107035309.GB26452@zork.net> <oqel7o23v7.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <87of6selsa.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MN" == Miles Nordin <carton@Ivy.NET> writes:

    sa> how is this any different than the crap found in the
    sa> anarchist's cookbook?

    MN> Don't have a cow, man.

    MN> He was just being patriotic.

    MN> Do you live in New York?  Then you wouldn't understand.

THIS IS WHY IT IS OKAY TO BOMB THOSE FUKKERS!!1!

     http://september11fund.org/

SODOM HUSAYN MUST PAY!!!1! FOR THE BOMBINGG OF KINTERGARDEN KIDS IN
OKLHOMA CITY!1!!!

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Mon Jan  6 20:24:02 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Who will response for the Simcities game ?
Message-ID: <8765t1fuzh.fsf@pigdog.org>

Sweet-ass psychotic spam. This is also a first for me.

Either that, or some real, real, real weird stego stuff.

~Mr. Bad

---8<---
Message-ID: <3E191AF4.2060608@netscape.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 13:58:12 +0800
From: twist4corrupt <twist4corrupt@netscape.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
Subject: Why did I become IBn & M$ "experiment" ? Who will response for the
 Simcities game ?
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 05:43:55.0670 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A0D5B60:01C2B546]
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.392343, version=0.9.1.2
Lines: 127

IT IS A (REAL LIFE ) SHOW

    *  SHOWING HOW HIGH (DENIABLE) TECHNOLOGY CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE
    *  SHOWING WHAT IS A GLOBAL VILLAGE ( SURVEILLANCE IN YOUR COUNTRY)
    *  SHOWING WHAT IS (DOUBLE) STANDARD HUMAN RIGHT
    *  SHOWING HOW YOU CAN MASTER YOUR LIFE (AS THEIR SLAVE)
    *  SHOWING HOW TO ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL (REVERSELY ) :-[
    *  SHOWING HOW MANY PERSPECTIVE WE CAN HAVE (BEND TO FIT)


I was the first one who promoted virtual enterprise here. They didn't 
want me have a real life.

They bring me their subliminal torture game. Monitor my speech pattern, 
twist to fight against me. Annoy me with their midnight anchor calls. 
Making me live as a paranoia, of course I have no evidence. They are 
using "environmental signal" - very skillful and systematic - to alter 
my fate. How can I tell I have been chosen as an experiment to testify 
the fortune teller ? How can I tell I am being projected ? How can I 
tell they are killing me ? How can I tell it is "in and out" or "rapport 
and project" or "MKULTRA" ? No. I am already too lucky not to perceive 
as a God.

I really want to know who initiate the "Chaos experiment", what covert 
business did IBn, M$, MOTOROLb and ORANGf betting on me ( very important 
clue ). I really want to know what would happen without my tape and 
mail. I NEED YOUR WITNESSES.



Cliff
XPgod2seduce@netscape.net
Where do you want to go to date me ?
Serial killer manufacturer ?
Serial Monica manufacturer ?
Why are you related to the fishing game ?
Can you draw a complete outdated map of all "experiments" ?
When will we stop replay tragedy for the nobles, Elvis ?


---8<---

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Jan  7 16:10:31 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Who will response for the Simcities game ?
In-Reply-To: <8765t1fuzh.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <8765t1fuzh.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030108001031.GY331@zork.net>

begin  The Mighty Silverback  quotation:
> Sweet-ass psychotic spam. This is also a first for me.
> 
> Either that, or some real, real, real weird stego stuff.

	I almost suspect the latter, but I got one too.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From jv at zork.net  Tue Jan  7 16:21:34 2003
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: Ha ha, "he he" (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo hosts "poison the infidel")
In-Reply-To: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030108002134.GE3897@zork.net>

begin  dep quotation:
> http://www.geocities.com/ithap2002/poisons.pdf
[...]
> poisons... tested (successfully, he he!)"...

Yes, I'm mortally terrified, tee-hee.  -jv... nervous as dep



From jv at zork.net  Wed Jan  8 13:13:47 2003
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: ?Steak-o Saurus (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo hosts "poison the infidel")
In-Reply-To: <87of6selsa.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030107035309.GB26452@zork.net> <oqel7o23v7.fsf@balthasar.nat> <87of6selsa.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030108211347.GE28421@zork.net>

excerpting Mister Bad typography:
[...]
> THIS IS WHY IT IS OKAY TO BOMB THOSE FUKKERS!!1!
[...]
> SODOM HUSAYN MUST PAY!!!1! FOR THE BOMBINGG OF KINTERGARDEN KIDS IN
> OKLHOMA CITY!1!!!

an earlier l@me attempt at f0rgery:
    >> Smooches!!!!!!1!
    >> Flesh ;-*

I imagine an hop'd-up Mr. Bad maniacally stamping out exclamers by
simul-stabbing right-shift- & one-keys.  !Bang, "!Ha"... !bang,
!bang-bang, "!Ha"... 1click, "1Fuck it"...

... or ?is this deep-dish steganography... ?who will response.  -jv

p.s... ahhh, steak... ahi steak... she sells sushi by the seashore



From carton at Ivy.NET  Wed Jan  8 14:03:17 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: ?Steak-o Saurus
In-Reply-To: <20030108211347.GE28421@zork.net>
 (Juggler Vain's message of "Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:13:47 -0800")
References: <200301062121.57559.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 <20030107035309.GB26452@zork.net> <oqel7o23v7.fsf@balthasar.nat>
 <87of6selsa.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030108211347.GE28421@zork.net>
Message-ID: <oqsmw3z4d6.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "jv" == Juggler Vain <jv@zork.net> writes:

    jv> ... or ?is this deep-dish steganography... ?who will response.
    jv> -jv

    jv> p.s... ahhh, steak... ahi steak... she sells sushi by the
    jv> seashore

Witness Juggler Vain's advanced argument technique, a bleeding-edge
style known as _ad punius_:  Proof By Pun.

aaagh!  his puns are inescapeable!  I am drowning in them.  By Xanth,
save me O merciful lord; the puns are too plentiful to withstand.

-- 
In the hours preceding the U.S. bombing of Iraq in 1991, pizza
deliveries to the Pentagon increased one hundredfold.
		-- Bruce Schneier


From squinky at dasbistro.com  Wed Jan  8 17:38:20 2003
From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey	unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <1041966360.3e1b251835457@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat> <1041905716.13211.9.camel@ovid.eng.sun.com> <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> <1041966360.3e1b251835457@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <20030109013820.GL8662@dasbistro.com>

On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:06:00PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> $ dict sodomite

This is where I giggle like a schoolgirl.

-- 
not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/


From joseph at nuasis.com  Wed Jan  8 17:44:17 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (John W. Smokes Jr.)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe
 notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030109013820.GL8662@dasbistro.com>
References: <20030102200350.GN31081@zork.net> <oqsmw5al1n.fsf@balthasar.nat> <1041905716.13211.9.camel@ovid.eng.sun.com> <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> <20030107025718.GB15385@linuxmafia.com> <1041966360.3e1b251835457@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030109013820.GL8662@dasbistro.com>
Message-ID: <3E1CD3F1.9090706@nuasis.com>

Not Erik wrote:

 >On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:06:00PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote:
 >
 >>$ dict sodomite
 >
 >This is where I giggle like a schoolgirl.

A Japanese schoolgirl with long socks and short skirt?




From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan  8 18:29:55 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Emad and the Submarine
Message-ID: <20030109022955.GF331@zork.net>

http://ibiblio.org/gutenberg/etext04/bysct10.txt
> CONTENTS
> 
> I.     LOST ON AN OCEAN FLOOR
> II.    A CONFLICT OF AUTHORITY
> III.   "THE DANDY SUBMARINE"
> IV.    A WOLF ON THE TRAIL
> V.     TWO WOLVES IN A PEN
> VI.    NIGHT ON AN OCEAN FLOOR
> VII.   THE SECRET OF THE HOLD
> VIII.  ON GUARD UNDER THE SEA
> IX.    "JIMMIE'S FOOLISH--LIKE A FOX"
> X.     A CHASE ON THE OCEAN FLOOR
> XI.    JIMMIE GOES OUT HUNTING
> XII.   JACK MAKES A DISCOVERY
> XIII.  JIMMIE DEMANDS A MEDAL
> XIV.   A BOY SCOUT WITH A "PUNCH"
> XV.    A DESPERATE PRISONER
> XVI.   A BLUFF THAT DIDN'T WORK
> XVII.  BAD FOR THE SEA CREATURES
> XVIII. "MAKING A GOOD JOB OF IT"
> XIX.   ON THE EDGE OF DISASTER
> XX.    AN ENDING AND A BEGINNING
> 
> CHAPTER I
> 
> LOST ON AN OCEAN FLOOR
> 
> The handsome clubroom of the Black Bear Patrol, Boy Scouts of
> America, in the City of New York, was ablaze with light, and as
> noisy as healthy, happy boys could well make it.
> 
> "Over in the Chinese Sea!" shouted Jimmie McGraw from a table which
> stood by an open window overlooking the brilliantly illuminated
> city.  "Do we go to the washee-washee land this time?"
 (continued)

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan  9 14:24:29 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030109222429.GP331@zork.net>

Ph33r my magnetic throwing stars


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From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan  9 14:47:52 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030109224752.GR331@zork.net>

Denied.

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From Rob.Levin at dorkporn.com  Thu Jan  9 14:58:47 2003
From: Rob.Levin at dorkporn.com (Lilo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Please Give Me a Life
Message-ID: <20030109225847.GA3437@zork.net>

I need to learn how to live like a crackmonkey, cuz Crackmonkey is da 
bomb!!!

of course, in order to do that, I'll need some extra funds.  Please 
paypal me so I can get a life. thx.



From rob.levin at dorkporn.com  Thu Jan  9 15:04:38 2003
From: rob.levin at dorkporn.com (Lilo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20030109230437.GA5087@zork.net>

I need to learn how to live like a crackmonkey, cuz Crackmonkey is da
bomb!!!

of course, in order to do that, I'll need some extra funds.  Please
paypal me so I can get a life. thx.

-- 
Will suck Jane Goodall's Dick for a Life



From dep at linuxandmain.com  Thu Jan  9 15:29:49 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Please Give Me a Life
In-Reply-To: <20030109225847.GA3437@zork.net>
References: <20030109225847.GA3437@zork.net>
Message-ID: <200301091829.49853.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Lilo's  quote:
| I need to learn how to live like a crackmonkey, cuz Crackmonkey is
| da bomb!!!
|
| of course, in order to do that, I'll need some extra funds.  Please
| paypal me so I can get a life. thx.

lilo is dead. http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/Galante.html

come back when you're grub.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org  Thu Jan  9 16:15:13 2003
From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Please Give Me a Life
In-Reply-To: <200301091829.49853.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301091612040.22659-100000@vax.hanford.org>

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, dep wrote:

> lilo is dead. http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/Galante.html

Young Carmine Galante looks a bit like Mr. Bad.




From mikael at pawlo.com  Fri Jan 10 13:14:17 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Friday
Message-ID: <v03007802ba44e7fd38d0@[10.0.1.2]>

We just got this tip on Gnuheter
(http://www.gnuheter.com/article.php?sid=2132):
http://www3.hmc.edu/~bgreer/barmonkey/

Happy drinking fellas!

Mikael


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From nick at zork.net  Fri Jan 10 14:15:41 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:52 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20030110221540.GJ3496@zork.net>

Don't care.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

dlal@btinternet.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Fri Jan 10 15:05:24 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Friday
In-Reply-To: <v03007802ba44e7fd38d0@[10.0.1.2]>
References: <v03007802ba44e7fd38d0@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <200301101805.24668.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Mikael Pawlo's  quote:
| We just got this tip on Gnuheter
| (http://www.gnuheter.com/article.php?sid=2132):
| http://www3.hmc.edu/~bgreer/barmonkey/
|
| Happy drinking fellas!

yes, but be careful:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2023380
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From mikael at pawlo.com  Fri Jan 10 17:10:14 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked this up
Message-ID: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>

Seems like people consider the Moffit/Moffitt character quotable:

Nick Moffitt in an interview by Mikael Pawlo (gnuheter.com)::
-I want to see a future where when I buy something, I own it. I don't want
corporations and governments telling me how I may or may not use my own
private property in my own home or among my friends.



From:
Fr?n:Devlor Nakarti (nakartiFREE@SPAMyahoo.com)
?mne:Re: Why Linux?
View: Complete Thread (78 artiklar)
Original Format
Nyhetsgrupper:alt.linux
Datum:2002-07-21 08:32:56 PST


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From dmarti at zgp.org  Fri Jan 10 17:12:47 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked this up
In-Reply-To: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
References: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <20030111011247.GF11411@zgp.org>

begin Mikael Pawlo quotation of Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 02:10:14AM +0100:

> Nyhetsgrupper:alt.linux

se.fan.nick-moffitt not found in groupinfo file

Don't Swedish Fanboys(tm) know about newgroup?

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu  Fri Jan 10 17:23:59 2003
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked this up 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:12:47 PST."
             <20030111011247.GF11411@zgp.org> 
References: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
            <20030111011247.GF11411@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <200301110123.h0B1NxLK016893@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:12:47 PST, Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org>  said:

> Don't Swedish Fanboys(tm) know about newgroup?

It's right next to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.swedish.airconditioners


From mikael at pawlo.com  Fri Jan 10 17:32:54 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked this up
In-Reply-To: <20030111011247.GF11411@zgp.org>
References: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
 <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <v03007807ba45228c3620@[10.0.1.2]>

At 17.12 -0800 03-01-10, Don Marti wrote:
>begin Mikael Pawlo quotation of Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 02:10:14AM +0100:
>> Nyhetsgrupper:alt.linux
>se.fan.nick-moffitt not found in groupinfo file
>Don't Swedish Fanboys(tm) know about newgroup?

You should ask Pawal, he even reads news on a daily basis!

I am having rioja tonight, but beajoulais anyway .-)

Mikael


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From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Fri Jan 10 18:14:49 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked this up
In-Reply-To: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]> (Mikael Pawlo's message of
 "Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:10:14 +0100")
References: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <87smw0bffq.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MP" == Mikael Pawlo <mikael@pawlo.com> writes:

    MP> Seems like people consider the Moffit/Moffitt character
    MP> quotable: Nick Moffitt in an interview by Mikael Pawlo
    MP> (gnuheter.com):

He's quite quotable. This got me to go back and read the interview for
the first time (it's here, by the way:

    http://www.gnuheter.org/article.php?sid=1673&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

). Good show, both of you.

Hey, so, what does "Gnuheter" mean, anyways?

~Mr. Bad

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From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Fri Jan 10 18:37:07 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked this up
In-Reply-To: <87smw0bffq.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]> <87smw0bffq.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030111023707.GV3496@zork.net>

begin  The Mighty Silverback  quotation:
> Hey, so, what does "Gnuheter" mean, anyways?

	It's a pretty straightforward translation of "Gnus", only a
little smoother.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Fri Jan 10 18:47:22 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
Message-ID: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>

http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=306

A new policy instituted by Yahoo! employs single-pixel GIF files in 
combination with cookies to gather  information on users of Yahoo!.

The files, called "Web beacons" by Yahoo!, "allow a web site to count 
users who have visited that page or to access certain cookies,"
according to the company.

The company, it continues, "uses web beacons within the Yahoo! network 
of web sites in order to count users and to recognize users by 
accessing Yahoo! cookies."

Those who value their privacy, however, may be especially troubled by 
another use to which Yahoo! puts its "Web Beacons": "Being able to 
access Yahoo! cookies allows us to personalize your experience when 
you visit Yahoo! web sites that are located both on and off of the 
yahoo.com domain". (Emphasis added.)

Information gathered outside the Yahoo! network "is used to report 
aggregate information about Yahoo! users to our partners. This 
aggregate information may include demographic and usage information," 
says the company, which claims that "No personally identifiable 
information about you is shared with partners from this research." 
(Emphasis again added.)

The Yahoo! page describing "Web beacons" provides a link which enables 
Yahoo! users to opt out of "Web beacons." However, the lone button on 
that page, unless examined closely, is likely to lead users who 
believe they have opted out to opt back in.

The "Web beacons" are also included in HTML-formatted email 
originating from Yahoo! "or its agents," according to the company -- 
another argument in support of plain-text-only email.

The "Web beacons" user tracking system comes less than a year after 
Yahoo! was criticized for changes in its privacy policy which 
suggested that private information would become more readily 
available to third parties and which made it difficult for users to 
opt out of spam lists maintained by the company.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From zen at zork.net  Sat Jan 11 01:15:01 2003
From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030111091501.GA15410@zork.net>

begin  dep  uuencoded stream:
> Those who value their privacy, however, may be especially troubled by 
> another use to which Yahoo! puts its "Web Beacons": "Being able to 
> access Yahoo! cookies allows us to personalize your experience when 
> you visit Yahoo! web sites that are located both on and off of the 
> yahoo.com domain". (Emphasis added.)

	I always wondered what was up with those fucking exclamation
points.

-- 
http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff.
http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community.
http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation.
                george@georgebox.org


From mikael at pawlo.com  Sat Jan 11 05:06:37 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked this up
In-Reply-To: <87smw0bffq.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]> (Mikael Pawlo's message of
 "Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:10:14 +0100") <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <v03007806ba45c7478025@[10.0.1.2]>

At 18.14 -0800 03-01-10, Mister Bad wrote:
>Hey, so, what does "Gnuheter" mean, anyways?

It is Swedish for Jennifer Lopez.

M


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From mikael at pawlo.com  Sat Jan 11 08:59:29 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: The Moffitt Song (was:Re: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked
 this up)
In-Reply-To: <v03007806ba45c7478025@[10.0.1.2]>
References: <87smw0bffq.fsf@pigdog.org> <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
 (Mikael Pawlo's message of "Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:10:14 +0100")
 <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <v03007822ba45f2dabcca@[10.0.1.2]>

At 14.06 +0100 03-01-11, Mikael Pawlo wrote:
>At 18.14 -0800 03-01-10, Mister Bad wrote:
>>Hey, so, what does "Gnuheter" mean, anyways?
>It is Swedish for Jennifer Lopez.


The Moffitt Song


Melody: Jenny from the block
Not proprietor at all: Mikael Pawlo


T-U-X, yeah
Moffitt, yeah
Yeah, yo, yo
We opened the source this year
Went from a win to a tux on my Sun
Microsoft mad at the box that I run
I know what I'm coding and I know where its from
You hear 802 in the air
Yeah we surf airport out in the block
From joakim at avmaria.com  Sat Jan 11 11:17:05 2003
From: joakim at avmaria.com (Joakim Ziegler)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 20:47, dep wrote:
> http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=306

> The "Web beacons" are also included in HTML-formatted email 
> originating from Yahoo! "or its agents," according to the company -- 
> another argument in support of plain-text-only email.

More like an argument for using a MUA that does the right thing when
displaying HTML mail. Like not loading images off the network. Evolution
is set to never do it by default, for instance, and you can also ask it
to do it only for people in your address book, which I consider a
reasonable setting.

I know even Outlook can be configured to not load images off the
network, but I'm uncertain what the default is.

-- 
   The Private Joakim Ziegler - Not Speaking For Anyone But Myself
    joakim@avmaria.com - http://www.avmaria.com - rdgzt@Undernet
            http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.fix.no/
		





From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Sat Jan 11 11:33:23 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: The Moffitt Song (was:Re: [!CrackMonkey!] My news filter picked
 this up)
In-Reply-To: <v03007822ba45f2dabcca@[10.0.1.2]> (Mikael Pawlo's message of
 "Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:59:29 +0100")
References: <87smw0bffq.fsf@pigdog.org> <v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]>
	<v03007805ba451f306bfa@[10.0.1.2]> <v03007822ba45f2dabcca@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <87smvza3cs.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MP" == Mikael Pawlo <mikael@pawlo.com> writes:

    MP> The Moffitt Song

HAR! That needs to go on the Web somewhere.

~Mr. Bad

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From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Sat Jan 11 11:38:51 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030111193851.GD3496@zork.net>

begin  Joakim Ziegler  quotation:
> More like an argument for using a MUA that does the right thing when
> displaying HTML mail. Like not loading images off the network.
> Evolution is set to never do it by default, for instance, and you
> can also ask it to do it only for people in your address book, which
> I consider a reasonable setting.

	Until some mail worm starts faking headers.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
 
						 http://lnx-bbc.org/


From colin at nonhtmlmail.org  Sun Jan 12 06:46:27 2003
From: colin at nonhtmlmail.org (Colin Wills)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030112144627.GC492@dork7.dorkers.com>

begin  Joakim Ziegler quote:
> On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 20:47, dep wrote:
> > The "Web beacons" are also included in HTML-formatted email 
> > originating from Yahoo! "or its agents," according to the company -- 
> > another argument in support of plain-text-only email.
> 
> More like an argument for using a MUA that does the right thing when
> displaying HTML mail. [...]

More like an argument for using a MUA that doesn't know about HTML.

-- 
 /"\
 \ /
  X   ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Non HTML Mail
 / \       http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/ 


From carlos at laviola.org  Sun Jan 12 10:02:40 2003
From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <20030112144627.GC492@dork7.dorkers.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20030112144627.GC492@dork7.dorkers.com>
Message-ID: <20030112180240.GA30552@laviola.org>

On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 02:46:27PM +0000, Colin Wills wrote:
> begin  Joakim Ziegler quote:
> > On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 20:47, dep wrote:
> > > The "Web beacons" are also included in HTML-formatted email 
> > > originating from Yahoo! "or its agents," according to the company -- 
> > > another argument in support of plain-text-only email.
> > 
> > More like an argument for using a MUA that does the right thing when
> > displaying HTML mail. [...]
> 
> More like an argument for using a MUA that doesn't know about HTML.

Hell, why even bother using e-mail anyway?  IT'S ALL INSECURE OMG!!!!
MOM, UNPLUG THE INTARNET, HURRY!!!  LOLZ

-- 
Carlos Laviola <carlos@laviola.org>


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Sun Jan 12 10:42:41 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <20030112180240.GA30552@laviola.org> (Carlos Laviola's message
 of "Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:02:40 -0200")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20030112144627.GC492@dork7.dorkers.com>
	<20030112180240.GA30552@laviola.org>
Message-ID: <87hececiqm.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "CL" == Carlos Laviola <carlos@laviola.org> writes:

    CL> Hell, why even bother using e-mail anyway?  IT'S ALL INSECURE
    CL> OMG!!!!  MOM, UNPLUG THE INTARNET, HURRY!!!  LOLZ

OK, so, here's two models of email:

    1) I send you some text, routed through about 40 other hosts. You
       read the text, and either reply to the text or not, as you
       will.

    2) I send you EXECUTABLE CONTENT, routed through about 40 other
       hosts. You get a chance to view a one-line description of the
       content, and then EXECUTE THAT CONTENT.

One of these is inherently unsafe. The other has security hassles, too
-- mostly related to excessive volume -- but is otherwise relatively
harmless.

~Mr. Bad

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From joakim at avmaria.com  Sun Jan 12 13:44:28 2003
From: joakim at avmaria.com (Joakim Ziegler)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <87hececiqm.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	 <1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	 <20030112144627.GC492@dork7.dorkers.com>
	 <20030112180240.GA30552@laviola.org>  <87hececiqm.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 12:42, Mister Bad wrote:
>> Carlos Laviola <carlos@laviola.org> writes:

>> Hell, why even bother using e-mail anyway?  IT'S ALL INSECURE
>> OMG!!!!  MOM, UNPLUG THE INTARNET, HURRY!!!  LOLZ

> OK, so, here's two models of email:

>     1) I send you some text, routed through about 40 other hosts. You
>        read the text, and either reply to the text or not, as you
>        will.

>     2) I send you EXECUTABLE CONTENT, routed through about 40 other
>        hosts. You get a chance to view a one-line description of the
>        content, and then EXECUTE THAT CONTENT.

> One of these is inherently unsafe. The other has security hassles, too
> -- mostly related to excessive volume -- but is otherwise relatively
> harmless.

Actually, text is far more dangerous than executable content. Executable
content runs only on your computer, potentially changing the data in its
memory and on its hard drive, etc.

However, text is like executable content for your brain! And there's no
way to know what it is without reading it, which is, in fact, executing
that code in your neurons, which will *always* lead to permanent changes
in the very structure of your brain!

Virus from outer space, etc.

-- 
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            http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.fix.no/
		





From carton at Ivy.NET  Sun Jan 12 15:04:27 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 (Joakim Ziegler's message of "12 Jan 2003 15:44:28 -0600")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 <1042312625.1647.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <20030112144627.GC492@dork7.dorkers.com> <20030112180240.GA30552@laviola.org>
 <87hececiqm.fsf@pigdog.org> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "jz" == Joakim Ziegler <joakim@avmaria.com> writes:

    jz> text is far more dangerous . . .  executable content for your
    jz> brain!

The C#-loving MFC wanker has a point, fellas.  This is why I block
email sent by my lunatic father.  Now he tries to subvert the filter
by sending voice messages through j2.com.  Filtering is perilous.

That said, I insist that my computer is no one's bitch but mine, and I
will pound the ass of anyone who says otherwise.

-- 
``GNOME, launched specifically to counter a threat to our freedom, is
  the free software project par excellence.''  -- Richard M. Stallman
``C# is, from what I've seen, a rather nice little language.'' -- Joakim 
  Ziegler, Ximian


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Sun Jan 12 15:17:07 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Miles Nordin's  quote:
| >>>>> "jz" == Joakim Ziegler <joakim@avmaria.com> writes:
|
|     jz> text is far more dangerous . . .  executable content for
| your jz> brain!
|
| The C#-loving MFC wanker has a point, fellas.  This is why I block
| email sent by my lunatic father.  Now he tries to subvert the
| filter by sending voice messages through j2.com.  Filtering is
| perilous.

jeeezus! what a couple of impressionable children. you've just made 
the case for censorship, announcing as you have that you are 
incapable of handling, well, any goddammed thing without being 
permanently fucked up by it.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From rick at linuxmafia.com  Sun Jan 12 15:48:16 2003
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030112234816.GF8302@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting dep (dep@linuxandmain.com):

> jeeezus! what a couple of impressionable children. you've just made 
> the case for censorship, announcing as you have that you are 
> incapable of handling, well, any goddammed thing without being 
> permanently fucked up by it.

You say that _now_.  But wait until the name-shub of Enki gets through
with you.

-- 
Cheers,                                      "My file system's got no nodes!"
Rick Moen                                    "How does it shell?"
rick@linuxmafia.com  


From carton at Ivy.NET  Sun Jan 12 18:46:52 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 (dep's message of "Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:17:07 -0500")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "d" == dep  <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

     d> | jz> text is far more dangerous . . .  executable content for
     d> | your jz> brain!

I might take your feeble point under consideration and perhaps even
address it if you fixed your quotation regexps.  but probably not.

-- 
c-th. / c-th, c-th. / c-th, c-th.
c-th, c-th. / c-th, c-th.
c-th, c-th. / c-th, c-th.
c-th, c-th. / c-th.


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Sun Jan 12 18:53:50 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <200301122153.50289.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Miles Nordin's  quote:

| I might take your feeble point under consideration and perhaps even
| address it if you fixed your quotation regexps.  but probably not.

oh my. i've permanently damaged you. and to think -- they said 
everything that could be permanently damaged already was.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From ninjadroid at ml1.net  Mon Jan 13 10:29:12 2003
From: ninjadroid at ml1.net (Peter)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <200301122153.50289.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301122153.50289.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030113182912.0230F1C1E1@www.fastmail.fm>

d0000d!!! im gonna send a email text virus to my dad and, like, make him
get
me an xbox!!!!! that would rulz0r, u no??!!11??


From bug-e at thelair.za.net  Mon Jan 13 10:54:12 2003
From: bug-e at thelair.za.net (Bug-E)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <20030113182912.0230F1C1E1@www.fastmail.fm>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301122153.50289.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030113182912.0230F1C1E1@www.fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <20030113185412.GA23342@xfile.kilian.org.za>

Good god, somebody get this guy a dictionary!
How the hell did this get past my lamer-filter???

On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 01:29:12PM -0500, Peter wrote:
> d0000d!!! im gonna send a email text virus to my dad and, like, make him
> get
> me an xbox!!!!! that would rulz0r, u no??!!11??
> 
> _______________________________________________
> CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks
> http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey
-- 
What?


From henrik at enberg.org  Mon Jan 13 11:27:54 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <20030113185412.GA23342@xfile.kilian.org.za> (Bug-E's message
 of "Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:54:12 +0200")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat>
	<200301122153.50289.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20030113182912.0230F1C1E1@www.fastmail.fm>
	<20030113185412.GA23342@xfile.kilian.org.za>
Message-ID: <87k7h83l51.fsf@enberg.org>

Bug-E <bug-e@thelair.za.net> writes:

> How the hell did this get past my lamer-filter???

Your lamer filter is lame.  Not very surprising since you're a
top-posting crack-ho.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Mon Jan 13 12:01:20 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <20030113185412.GA23342@xfile.kilian.org.za>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301122153.50289.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030113182912.0230F1C1E1@www.fastmail.fm> <20030113185412.GA23342@xfile.kilian.org.za>
Message-ID: <20030113200120.GI3001@zork.net>

begin  Bug-E  quotation:
> Good god, somebody get this guy a dictionary!
> How the hell did this get past my lamer-filter???

	I DON'T KNOW MAYBE IT'S BROKEN???

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From ninjadroid at ml1.net  Mon Jan 13 14:39:42 2003
From: ninjadroid at ml1.net (Peter)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <87k7h83l51.fsf@enberg.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 	<200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 	<oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat>
 	<200301122153.50289.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 	<20030113182912.0230F1C1E1@www.fastmail.fm>
 	<20030113185412.GA23342@xfile.kilian.org.za> <87k7h83l51.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <20030113223942.34A291AC1A@www.fastmail.fm>

> How the hell did this get past my lamer-filter???

It seems my evil plan, code-named "facetious," worked
better than I had expected...


From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com  Mon Jan 13 16:31:27 2003
From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (Matthew W. Miller)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030114003127.GA2119@columbus.rr.com>

On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 06:17:07PM -0500, dep wrote:
>begin  Miles Nordin's  quote:
>| Joakim Ziegler <joakim@avmaria.com> writes:
>| > text is far more dangerous . . .  executable content for brain!
>| This is why I block email sent by my lunatic father.
>you've just made the case for censorship, announcing as you have that
>you are incapable of handling, well, any goddammed thing without being
>permanently fucked up by it.

I don't think it's a case of "are incapable of" so much as "don't wanna 
bother".
-- 
Matthew W. Miller
mwmiller@columbus.rr.com


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Mon Jan 13 16:38:40 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <20030113223942.34A291AC1A@www.fastmail.fm>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <oqznq53gwz.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301122153.50289.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030113182912.0230F1C1E1@www.fastmail.fm> <20030113185412.GA23342@xfile.kilian.org.za> <87k7h83l51.fsf@enberg.org> <20030113223942.34A291AC1A@www.fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <20030114003840.GQ3001@zork.net>

begin  Peter  quotation:
> > How the hell did this get past my lamer-filter???
> 
> It seems my evil plan, code-named "facetious," worked
> better than I had expected...

	Oh jesux.  Between the half-hearted preschool flamers and the
pathetic "I meant to do that" comebacks, I'm a hair's breadth from
vomiting.

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Mon Jan 13 16:39:03 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <20030114003127.GA2119@columbus.rr.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030114003127.GA2119@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20030114003903.GR3001@zork.net>

begin  Matthew W. Miller  quotation:
> I don't think it's a case of "are incapable of" so much as "don't
> wanna bother".

	ITYM "CBA"
	HTH, GTFOML

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From nick at zork.net  Mon Jan 13 20:38:02 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20030114043802.GU3001@zork.net>

jtangent.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

seth@jtan.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From carton at Ivy.NET  Tue Jan 14 10:04:39 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <20030112234816.GF8302@linuxmafia.com>
 (Rick Moen's message of "Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:48:16 -0800")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 <20030112234816.GF8302@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <oqbs2j38w8.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "rm" == Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes:

    rm> You say that _now_.  But wait until the name-shub of Enki gets
    rm> through with you.

You FOOL!

The Nam-shub of Enki is the program that FREED our ancestors, the
robotic flesh-slaves, from their priesthood---and made them men for
the first time.

-- 
I'm surprised she doesn't have a nosebleed from being south of
Fourteenth Street.
		-- Lexy Gold


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Jan 14 18:22:47 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
Message-ID: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org>

The "UNCERTAINTY  PRINCIPLE IS UNTENABLE" mail can't be
spam...bogofilter says so:

X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.279563, version=0.9.1.2

It must be real science.

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Jan 14 18:28:01 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net>

begin  Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere  quotation:
> The "UNCERTAINTY  PRINCIPLE IS UNTENABLE" mail can't be
> spam...bogofilter says so:
> 
> 
> It must be real science.

	I'm actually beginning to suspect that some of the crackpot
spams are actually spam houses trying to test their systems.

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Jan 14 18:49:38 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org>

begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 06:28:01PM -0800:

> 	I'm actually beginning to suspect that some of the crackpot
> spams are actually spam houses trying to test their systems.

dentist disappearing dusting jamaica malformed noway pablo penis
prospection realty rigor seeker snowy soliciting tranquility
courteously dime foreigner geez hocus lipotropic marquee pong
searcher suspensory unjoin downline inaccordance peppercorn artiste
miracle scam chop indy overlook aurora chopper modifier sleuth
demander figurer lick lien dotted nigerian yelling prodigy untitled
serif purple

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From joseph at nuasis.com  Tue Jan 14 19:45:45 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (John W. Smokes Jr.)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam
 or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net> <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <3E24D969.8080003@nuasis.com>

Don Marti wrote:

>dentist disappearing dusting jamaica malformed noway pablo penis
>prospection realty rigor seeker snowy soliciting tranquility
>  
>
That's a great mneumonic, isn't it?
Although I learned it as "... rigel seeker slowly ..."
which I think flows a little better.




From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Jan 14 19:58:58 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:53 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <3E24D969.8080003@nuasis.com>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net> <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org> <3E24D969.8080003@nuasis.com>
Message-ID: <20030115035857.GI3001@zork.net>

begin  John W. Smokes Jr.  quotation:
> Don Marti wrote:
> >dentist disappearing dusting jamaica malformed noway pablo penis
> >prospection realty rigor seeker snowy soliciting tranquility
> That's a great mneumonic, isn't it?
> Although I learned it as "... rigel seeker slowly ..."
> which I think flows a little better.

	You are all such fucking trolls.

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Jan 14 20:12:22 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115035857.GI3001@zork.net>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net> <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org> <3E24D969.8080003@nuasis.com> <20030115035857.GI3001@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030115041222.GT21775@zgp.org>

begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 07:58:58PM -0800:

> begin  John W. Smokes Jr.  quotation:
> > Don Marti wrote:
> > >dentist disappearing dusting jamaica malformed noway pablo penis
> > >prospection realty rigor seeker snowy soliciting tranquility
> > That's a great mneumonic, isn't it?
> > Although I learned it as "... rigel seeker slowly ..."
> > which I think flows a little better.
> 
> 	You are all such fucking trolls.

wrote discussion mutt conference platform hardware reform ended
python architecture kernel overall device testing

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Jan 14 20:15:51 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115041222.GT21775@zgp.org>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net> <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org> <3E24D969.8080003@nuasis.com> <20030115035857.GI3001@zork.net> <20030115041222.GT21775@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20030115041551.GJ3001@zork.net>

begin  Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere  quotation:
> wrote discussion mutt conference platform hardware reform ended
> python architecture kernel overall device testing

	I'm actually amazed that your DMCA reform sig only took it
down to 0.99 bogosity.  

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Jan 14 20:22:06 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115041551.GJ3001@zork.net>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net> <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org> <3E24D969.8080003@nuasis.com> <20030115035857.GI3001@zork.net> <20030115041222.GT21775@zgp.org> <20030115041551.GJ3001@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030115042206.GW21775@zgp.org>

begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 08:15:51PM -0800:

> 	I'm actually amazed that your DMCA reform sig only took it
> down to 0.99 bogosity.  

"wrote" is such a killer non-spam word (for me).  I tried adding
it to a real estate spam, and just that one word saved it.

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From joseph at nuasis.com  Tue Jan 14 20:47:55 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (John W. Smokes Jr.)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam
 or science?
Message-ID: <3E24E7FB.5020404@nuasis.com>

Don Marti wrote:

>"wrote" is such a killer non-spam word (for me).  I tried adding
>it to a real estate spam, and just that one word saved it.

Cool. Knowledge of powerful non-spam words could be worth big $$$.
You should sell out and make millions

P.S. I am not a troll, I am a stone golem. thats shorter than a troll






From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Jan 14 21:45:39 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <3E24E7FB.5020404@nuasis.com>
References: <3E24E7FB.5020404@nuasis.com>
Message-ID: <20030115054539.GA29878@zork.net>

begin  John W. Smokes Jr.  quotation:
> P.S. I am not a troll, I am a stone golem. thats shorter than a troll

	Oh, is that why you BROKE THREADING?

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From adam at flounder.net  Tue Jan 14 21:59:10 2003
From: adam at flounder.net (Adam McKenna)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net> <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20030115055910.GA22446@flounder.net>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 06:49:38PM -0800, Don Marti wrote:
> dentist disappearing dusting jamaica malformed noway pablo penis
> prospection realty rigor seeker snowy soliciting tranquility
> courteously dime foreigner geez hocus lipotropic marquee pong
> searcher suspensory unjoin downline inaccordance peppercorn artiste
> miracle scam chop indy overlook aurora chopper modifier sleuth
> demander figurer lick lien dotted nigerian yelling prodigy untitled
> serif purple

if i dried kiddie fifi
druid kidded jed duddie
i refereed freed red deer
jeff fired if fred differed
referred redder fur irkier fred
duke jeffrie


From jdub at perkypants.org  Tue Jan 14 22:11:45 2003
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115055910.GA22446@flounder.net>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net> <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org> <20030115055910.GA22446@flounder.net>
Message-ID: <20030115061145.GJ2182@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>

<quote who="Adam McKenna">

> jeff fired if fred differed

... and I'll do it again if Fred - or any of the rest of you low-lifes - are
not careful.

- Jeff

-- 
            "you misspelt 'world dominatrix'" - James Wilkinson             


From joseph at barrera.org  Tue Jan 14 21:57:41 2003
From: joseph at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam
 or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115054539.GA29878@zork.net>
References: <3E24E7FB.5020404@nuasis.com> <20030115054539.GA29878@zork.net>
Message-ID: <3E24F855.20607@barrera.org>

Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:

>begin  John W. Smokes Jr.  quotation:
>  
>
>>P.S. I am not a troll, I am a stone golem. thats shorter than a troll
>>    
>>
>
>	Oh, is that why you BROKE THREADING?
>
>  
>
Well, actually that's because I was stupid and initially replied from the
wrong account, and then resent from the right account by starting with
a forward of my initial message. But I mean, come on, most golems
don't even remember to send in plain text. Have you ever tried to type
or use a mouse with stone hands made of large rocks? It's not easy.




From joseph at nuasis.com  Wed Jan 15 01:16:24 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (John W. Smokes Jr.)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam
 or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030114003903.GR3001@zork.net>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030114003127.GA2119@columbus.rr.com> <20030114003903.GR3001@zork.net>
Message-ID: <3E2526E8.1010609@nuasis.com>

Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
 > Oh, is that why you BROKE THREADING?

Oh and besides, I meant to do that and I'm surprised
that you just fell for my little trap.




From dmarti at zgp.org  Wed Jan 15 07:58:21 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <3E2526E8.1010609@nuasis.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030114003127.GA2119@columbus.rr.com> <20030114003903.GR3001@zork.net> <3E2526E8.1010609@nuasis.com>
Message-ID: <20030115155821.GX21775@zgp.org>

begin John W. Smokes Jr. quotation of Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 01:16:24AM -0800:

> Oh and besides, I meant to do that and I'm surprised
> that you just fell for my little trap.

Hey, watch this!

--
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From neale at woozle.org  Wed Jan 15 08:12:13 2003
From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or
 science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org> (Don Marti's message of "Tue,
 14 Jan 2003 18:49:38 -0800")
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net>
	<20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <w53y95m5r4y.fsf@woozle.org>

Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> writes:

> dentist disappearing dusting jamaica malformed noway pablo penis
> prospection realty rigor seeker snowy soliciting tranquility
> courteously dime foreigner geez hocus lipotropic marquee pong
> searcher suspensory unjoin downline inaccordance peppercorn artiste
> miracle scam chop indy overlook aurora chopper modifier sleuth
> demander figurer lick lien dotted nigerian yelling prodigy untitled
> serif purple

You scored big with 'houses', 'seeker', 'soliciting', 'foreigner',
'penis', 'untitled', and 'overlook', but the rest of your message places
you firmly in the ham range.

Interestingly, the word 'spams' has never shown up in any of my spam.
Nor has the word 'spam' in the subject.  And your call sign is a killer
ham indicator, too.  

So to all you spammers out there: just include Don Marti's call sign in
your spam and you're halfway past my filter.


X-Spambayes-Classification: ham; 0.00
X-Hammie-Debug: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'url:listinfo': 0.00;
	'url:mailman': 0.00; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.00;
	'content-disposition:inline': 0.00; 'attacks': 0.00;
	'subject:CrackMonkey': 0.00; 'arguments': 0.00;
	'url:crackmonkey': 0.00;
	'ad-hominem': 0.00; 'crackmonkey:': 0.00; 'non-sequitur': 0.00;
	'subject:: [!': 0.00; 'subject:spam': 0.00; 'trying': 0.00;
	'tue,': 0.00;
	'don': 0.00; 'francisco': 0.00; 'dmca': 0.00; 'suspect': 0.00;
	'monkey': 0.00; 'marti': 0.00; 'master': 0.00; 'prince': 0.00;
	'regent': 0.00; 'spams': 0.00; 'quotation': 0.00;
	'from:addr:dmarti': 0.00;
	'from:addr:zgp.org': 0.00; 'from:name:don marti': 0.00;
	'message-id:@zgp.org': 0.00; 'email addr:zgp.org': 0.00;
	'email name:dmarti': 0.00; 'systems.': 0.00; 'kg6ina': 0.00;
	'url:zgp': 0.00;
	'url:~dmarti': 0.00; '-0800:': 0.01; 'demanding': 0.01;
	'noise.': 0.01;
	'reform,': 0.01; 'skip:_ 40': 0.01; '14,': 0.01; 'scam': 0.01;
	'counts.': 0.01; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.01; 'injustice': 0.01;
	'jury.': 0.01; 'loudly': 0.01; 'header:Errors-To:1': 0.02;
	'aurora': 0.03;
	'chop': 0.03; 'dime': 0.03; 'jamaica': 0.03; 'nigerian': 0.03;
	'jan': 0.07;
	"i'm": 0.07; 'actually': 0.13; 'san': 0.14; 'pablo': 0.16;
	'test': 0.18;
	'charset:us-ascii': 0.26; 'content-type:text/plain': 0.29;
	'some': 0.31;
	'beginning': 0.34; 'begin': 0.35; "don't": 0.36; 'going': 0.36;
	'personal': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.37; 'x-mailer:none': 0.39;
	'header:Received:4': 0.39; 'header:Message-ID:1': 0.39;
	'url:org': 0.40;
	'their': 0.61; 'demander': 0.91; 'figurer': 0.91; 'lien': 0.91;
	'modifier': 0.91; 'houses': 0.97; 'seeker': 0.97; 'soliciting': 0.97;
	'foreigner': 0.97; 'penis': 0.98; 'untitled': 0.99; 'overlook': 0.99


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Wed Jan 15 12:57:44 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115155821.GX21775@zgp.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030114003127.GA2119@columbus.rr.com> <20030114003903.GR3001@zork.net> <3E2526E8.1010609@nuasis.com> <20030115155821.GX21775@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20030115205744.GE29878@zork.net>

begin  Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere  quotation:
> Hey, watch this!
> 
> --

	I deftly evade your feint, and bash in your skull with the
butt of my bayonet.

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan 15 12:58:32 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20030115205832.GG29878@zork.net>

Crap!  The United Arab Freemasons are on to us.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Wed Jan 15 12:58:16 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <w53y95m5r4y.fsf@woozle.org>
References: <20030115022247.GN21775@zgp.org> <20030115022801.GF3001@zork.net> <20030115024938.GO21775@zgp.org> <w53y95m5r4y.fsf@woozle.org>
Message-ID: <20030115205815.GF29878@zork.net>

begin  Neale Pickett  quotation:
> And your call sign is a killer ham indicator, too.  

	GET      OUT

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From rick at linuxmafia.com  Wed Jan 15 14:41:21 2003
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115205744.GE29878@zork.net>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030114003127.GA2119@columbus.rr.com> <20030114003903.GR3001@zork.net> <3E2526E8.1010609@nuasis.com> <20030115155821.GX21775@zgp.org> <20030115205744.GE29878@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030115224121.GO12646@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco (monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org):

> "...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
> property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
> jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
>   -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 

I applaud the sentiment, but that Reconstruction provision asserts the
supremacy of the Federal government over the states, concerning rights of
persons.  It doesn't restrict the Feds' ability to shaft non-citizens.

-- 
Cheers,                                      "My file system's got no nodes!"
Rick Moen                                    "How does it shell?"
rick@linuxmafia.com  


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Wed Jan 15 14:59:28 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115224121.GO12646@linuxmafia.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030114003127.GA2119@columbus.rr.com> <20030114003903.GR3001@zork.net> <3E2526E8.1010609@nuasis.com> <20030115155821.GX21775@zgp.org> <20030115205744.GE29878@zork.net> <20030115224121.GO12646@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <20030115225928.GF29878@zork.net>

begin  Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere  quotation:
> I applaud the sentiment, but that Reconstruction provision asserts
> the supremacy of the Federal government over the states, concerning
> rights of persons.  It doesn't restrict the Feds' ability to shaft
> non-citizens.

	Bugger.

-- 
"...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 
  -- US Constitution, Amendment XIV, on the rights of non-citizens 


From mikael at pawlo.com  Wed Jan 15 15:10:40 2003
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Larry's Song
Message-ID: <v03007816ba4b9abcbd8e@[10.0.1.2]>

Sing with a certain Stanford Law Professor today:
http://harvard.pawlo.com/lessig.ogg

Mikael


_________________________________________________________________________

  ICQ:35638414                              mailto:mikael@pawlo.com
  +46-704-215825                              http://www.pawlo.com/




From dep at linuxandmain.com  Wed Jan 15 15:31:54 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030115225928.GF29878@zork.net>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030115224121.GO12646@linuxmafia.com> <20030115225928.GF29878@zork.net>
Message-ID: <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's  quote:

| 	Bugger.

well, you can still do *that* if you're a furriner -- but you already 
knew that, didn't you. what you may not do is come here and prepare 
to kill americans, and if you do, you may not expect to enjoy the 
rights of citizens.

which you for some incredibly fucked-up reason seem to find fault 
with.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From joseph at nuasis.com  Wed Jan 15 15:38:37 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (John W. Smokes Jr.)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam
 or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030115224121.GO12646@linuxmafia.com> <20030115225928.GF29878@zork.net> <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <3E25F0FD.3030606@nuasis.com>

dep wrote:

>begin  Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's  quote:
>
>| 	Bugger.
>
>well, you can still do *that* if you're a furriner -- but you already 
>knew that, didn't you. what you may not do is come here and prepare 
>  
>
No, no, no. He was making an obscure (1337) reference to Orson Scott Card.

(Or maybe it was LeGuin. I get the two confused.)




From joakim at avmaria.com  Wed Jan 15 15:27:07 2003
From: joakim at avmaria.com (Joakim Ziegler)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam
	or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	 <20030115224121.GO12646@linuxmafia.com> <20030115225928.GF29878@zork.net>
	 <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 17:31, dep wrote:
> begin  Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's  quote:

> | 	Bugger.

> well, you can still do *that* if you're a furriner -- but you already 
> knew that, didn't you. what you may not do is come here and prepare 
> to kill americans, and if you do, you may not expect to enjoy the 
> rights of citizens.

> which you for some incredibly fucked-up reason seem to find fault 
> with.

As far as I know, it's illegal for US citizens to prepare to kill other
US citizens too, so that's hardly the problem here.

Why do you find it necessary that foreigners who break that particular
law should be treated differently than citizens who do so?

-- 
   The Private Joakim Ziegler - Not Speaking For Anyone But Myself
    joakim@avmaria.com - http://www.avmaria.com - rdgzt@Undernet
            http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.fix.no/
		





From henrik at enberg.org  Wed Jan 15 16:18:28 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GNOME is finally as easy to use as KDE
Message-ID: <87y95m9cbv.fsf@enberg.org>

This will be a big step in getting Linux on THE DESKTOP.

<http://xsu.sourceforge.net/>


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Wed Jan 15 16:32:17 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Joakim Ziegler's  quote:

| Why do you find it necessary that foreigners who break that
| particular law should be treated differently than citizens who do
| so?

they're not, if they are doing so as an act of war, as witness the 
recently concluded court of appeals case which demonstrated that 
citizens who undertake to be enemy combatants will be treated as 
enemy combatants. and enemy combatants are not entitled to the rights 
and privileges afforded citizens. for instance, we shoot them. there 
is considerable precedent for this, which extends back to a point far 
before there were firearms with which to shoot them; when they were 
speared, or knifed, or burned, or popped in the head with a rock.

however, when people come here specifically to do us harm, or when 
there is reason to believe that they intend so to do, then they have 
the choice of facing suspicion here or -- and this is by far the 
better choice -- staying the fuck home.

now. it happens that a group of swarthy gents of middle eastern 
extraction has listed as its purpose the extinction of the west. 
moreover, they have conducted numerous demonstrations of their intent 
to bring this about. you may have heard of some of them. in my 
estimation, that it prina facie reason to suspect gents of middle 
eastern extraction who want to drop in for any reason. and gents of 
middle eastern extraction who do not care for this policy have as 
remedies to them the aforementioned option of staying the hell home 
or bringing pressure on the heaven-on-earth governmernts they enjoy 
in their homelands that those governments do something about the band 
of anti-western gents, such that future travel to the u.s. can be 
more convenient.

which is, actually, how it will turn out, and it is only a matter of 
how many more americans going about their law-abiding business get 
killed before it comes to pass.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Wed Jan 15 16:35:56 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] there will always be an england
Message-ID: <200301151935.56583.dep@linuxandmain.com>

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100local/page.cfm?objectid=12536485&method=full&siteid=50081

Investigations were under way today into the horrific death of a man 
who was beheaded by a home-made guillotine.

The shocking discovery was made by the 36-year-old's father after he 
returned home from work.

Robert Taylor pushed open the bedroom door and found his son, Boyd, 
lying in a pool of blood. . . .

The mechanism was timed to send the blade crashing down in the early 
hours, at about 3.30am.

It is believed Mr Taylor was lying on an airbed underneath the 
guillotine.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From dmarti at zgp.org  Wed Jan 15 16:59:47 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GNOME is finally as easy to use as KDE
In-Reply-To: <87y95m9cbv.fsf@enberg.org>
References: <87y95m9cbv.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <20030116005947.GF21775@zgp.org>

begin Henrik Enberg quotation of Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 01:18:28AM +0100:

> This will be a big step in getting Linux on THE DESKTOP.
> 
> <http://xsu.sourceforge.net/>

Yeah, well...Knight Rider car!!!
http://www.markscustomkits.com/For-Sale.html

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From rick at linuxmafia.com  Wed Jan 15 20:10:37 2003
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030116041037.GR12646@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting dep (dep@linuxandmain.com):

> ...and enemy combatants....

Which status can be declared by unspecified parties to apply to a
citizen, from that point forward, without all that tedious 
"due process" nonsense.  How commendably efficient.

-- 
Cheers,                                      "My file system's got no nodes!"
Rick Moen                                    "How does it shell?"
rick@linuxmafia.com  


From sharkey at zoic.org  Wed Jan 15 23:43:03 2003
From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'Sharkey' Moore)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] yahoo! cranks its spying up a notch
In-Reply-To: <oqbs2j38w8.fsf@balthasar.nat>; from carton@Ivy.NET on Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 01:04:39PM -0500
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042407824.1669.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <oq8yxq3r7o.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200301121816.23100.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030112234816.GF8302@linuxmafia.com> <oqbs2j38w8.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20030116184303.C22715@dwerryhouse.com.au>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 01:04:39PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote:
> 
> You FOOL!
> The Nam-shub of Enki is the program that FREED our ancestors [...]

You can take my Nam-shub when you prise it from
my cold, dead clay tablets!

-----sharks (gn* c*ntr*l)


From mvw at wave.co.nz  Thu Jan 16 00:02:36 2003
From: mvw at wave.co.nz (Mark van Walraven)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030107170943.GW331@zork.net>
References: <20030106220718.GT331@zork.net> <1041892918.1732.11.camel@bodolinux> <20030106224852.GU331@zork.net> <1041894741.1733.25.camel@bodolinux> <20030107170943.GW331@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030116080236.GA1903@mvw.wave.co.nz>

On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 09:09:43AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
> begin  Kaiser of the Nine Krautscapes  quotation:
> > I think everybody on the list should subscribe as crackmonkey...
> 
> 	Forfiku vin, trolo!

I FULLY AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU!

Mark.


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Thu Jan 16 05:20:09 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116041037.GR12646@linuxmafia.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116041037.GR12646@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Rick Moen's  quote:

| Which status can be declared by unspecified parties to apply to a
| citizen, from that point forward, without all that tedious
| "due process" nonsense.  How commendably efficient.

and people can come in big red trucks and take axes and knock down 
your front door and squirt the place full of water, solely on the 
anonymous "tip" that it is on fire.

at some point motive simply must become the governing feature in 
distinguishing that which is right from that which is wrong -- a 
distinction that a lot of otherwise intelligent people obstinately 
ignore.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From rick at linuxmafia.com  Thu Jan 16 05:32:40 2003
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116041037.GR12646@linuxmafia.com> <200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030116133240.GD12646@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting dep (dep@linuxandmain.com):

> and people can come in big red trucks and take axes and knock down 
> your front door and squirt the place full of water, solely on the 
> anonymous "tip" that it is on fire.

Which is somehow still distinguishable from summary and indefinite
imprisonment without charges, trial, conviction, or sentencing.

> at some point motive simply must become the governing feature in 
> distinguishing that which is right from that which is wrong -- a 
> distinction that a lot of otherwise intelligent people obstinately 
> ignore.

Preventive detention for everyone!

But, you know, why don't you try out this social theory in some other
part of the world.  That way, my country doesn't get further fucked up
in the process.  Just a thought.

-- 
Cheers,                                      "Reality is not optional."
Rick Moen                                             -- Thomas Sowell
rick@linuxmafia.com


From carton at Ivy.NET  Thu Jan 16 08:31:04 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GNOME is finally as easy to use as KDE
In-Reply-To: <87y95m9cbv.fsf@enberg.org>
 (Henrik Enberg's message of "Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:18:28 +0100")
References: <87y95m9cbv.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <oqptqxvyyf.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "he" == Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:

    he> This will be a big step in getting Linux on THE DESKTOP.

I've seen this KDE desktop stuff ``in action''' at alt.coffee in the
Alphabet City.  The NetBSD kiosks are always broken, while the Windows
kiosks work fine.  I told the coffee-serving people about it, and they
said ``yeah, we know.  They suck.''

Though even when they wwere working, they didn't even have Mozilla or
Javur---just Konqueror and AOL Netscape.  so maybe their sysadmins are
neglectful.

-- 
In the hours preceding the U.S. bombing of Iraq in 1991, pizza
deliveries to the Pentagon increased one hundredfold.
		-- Bruce Schneier


From pedro at tastytronic.net  Thu Jan 16 08:50:18 2003
From: pedro at tastytronic.net (Peter A. Peterson II)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GNOME is finally as easy to use as KDE
In-Reply-To: <oqptqxvyyf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <87y95m9cbv.fsf@enberg.org> <oqptqxvyyf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20030116165018.GN6602@tastytronic.net>

Quoting Miles Nordin:
> Though even when they wwere working, they didn't even have Mozilla or
> Javur---just Konqueror and AOL Netscape.  so maybe their sysadmins are
> neglectful.

They should just use ports!

-- 
Peter A. Peterson II, technician and musician.
---=[ http://tastytronic.net/~pedro/ ]=---


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Thu Jan 16 09:51:15 2003
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GNOME is finally as easy to use as KDE
In-Reply-To: <20030116165018.GN6602@tastytronic.net>
References: <87y95m9cbv.fsf@enberg.org> <oqptqxvyyf.fsf@balthasar.nat> <20030116165018.GN6602@tastytronic.net>
Message-ID: <20030116175115.GA4656@8ball.wox.org>

commence  Peter A. Peterson II  quotation:
> They should just use ports!

Ports is great!  Ports gives me a blowjob every morning to wake me up!
Ports cooks my emergency bacon!  Thank you, Peter A. Peterson II, for 
telling me about ports!  I'm all pr0n0 for ports!!!!!
-- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Thu Jan 16 10:10:43 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116133240.GD12646@linuxmafia.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116133240.GD12646@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Rick Moen's  quote:

| But, you know, why don't you try out this social theory in some
| other part of the world.  That way, my country doesn't get further
| fucked up in the process.  Just a thought.

no, just a *lack* of thought. the social theory is this: here, we put 
bad people, or those of whom there is reason to believe they are bad, 
in jail. elsewhere, they put good people, or those of whom there is 
reason to believe they are good, in jail.

again, it comes down to motivation. that is *all* it *can* come down 
to. and the motivation is keeping the country from getting further 
fucked up. if you want to get all pissed off about something, examine 
zimbabwe.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan 16 11:04:11 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030116190411.GE17207@zork.net>

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From inkblot at movealong.org  Thu Jan 16 11:32:37 2003
From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116133240.GD12646@linuxmafia.com> <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org>

Just now dep made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this:
> begin  Rick Moen's  quote:
> 
> | But, you know, why don't you try out this social theory in some
> | other part of the world.  That way, my country doesn't get further
> | fucked up in the process.  Just a thought.
> 
> no, just a *lack* of thought. the social theory is this: here, we put 
> bad people, or those of whom there is reason to believe they are bad, 
> in jail. elsewhere, they put good people, or those of whom there is 
> reason to believe they are good, in jail.

That's an awefully simple world view... people being either "good" or
"bad".

> again, it comes down to motivation. that is *all* it *can* come down 
> to. and the motivation is keeping the country from getting further 
> fucked up. if you want to get all pissed off about something, examine 
> zimbabwe.

You know, there's a closed court that seems to exist solely for the
issue of wiretap warrants whose name I forget at the moment... but the
name isn't the important part.  The important part is that the court
proceedings are not subject to any scrutiny.  It's the same way with
military tribunals and whatever it is people plan on doing with "enemy
combatants".  In case you were wondering (and I'll simplify this to
fit your world view), scrutiny is how the good people know that the
judges and police are not bad people.  This whole citizen /
non-citizen / enemy combatant thing seems to boil down to one
question: Can the bad people we put in charge of this country
plausibly deny the suspect a trial with scrutiny, which would allow
bad judges and bad police to do bad things to a person who we haven't
determined is a bad person?  If you want to get pissed off about
something, consider the correlations between that and this:

http://www.bartleby.com/65/st/StarCham.html
> Under Chancellor Wolsey's leadership (1515-29), the Court of Star
> Chamber became a political weapon, bringing actions against
> opponents to the decrees and edicts of Henry VIII. Wolsey also
> encouraged petitioners to use the Court of the Star Chamber as a
> court of original jurisdiction, not as a last resort after the
> common-law courts had failed.

-- 
--< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >--
American currency is neither red, white, nor blue.
pub  1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) <inkblot@movealong.org>
     Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757  C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0


From dmarti at zgp.org  Thu Jan 16 11:45:15 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116133240.GD12646@linuxmafia.com> <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org>
Message-ID: <20030116194515.GC6088@zgp.org>

begin The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan quotation of Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 01:32:37PM -0600:

> That's an awefully simple world view... people being either "good" or
> "bad".

You can tell the bad ones because their food smells funny.  Damn,
dude, don't you know _anything_?

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.



From dep at linuxandmain.com  Thu Jan 16 11:54:22 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116194515.GC6088@zgp.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> <20030116194515.GC6088@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <200301161454.23079.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Don Marti's  quote:

| You can tell the bad ones because their food smells funny.  Damn,
| dude, don't you know _anything_?

no, you can tell them by the fact that persons from among them do 
things like fly airplanes into the world trade center.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Thu Jan 16 12:08:38 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org>
Message-ID: <200301161508.38704.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan's  quote:

| That's an awefully simple world view... people being either "good"
| or "bad".

yes, there are some wonderfully simple concepts -- so simple that you 
might be able to grasp them. therse include right and wrong, good and 
bad, dead and alive. they are not subject to moral relativism. though 
when the north koreans smoke san francisco, i promise that i'll do my 
very best to see their side of the story before applauding the 
retaliatory attack.

| You know, there's a closed court that seems to exist solely for the
| issue of wiretap warrants whose name I forget at the moment... but
| the name isn't the important part.  The important part is that the
| court proceedings are not subject to any scrutiny.  It's the same
| way with military tribunals and whatever it is people plan on doing
| with "enemy combatants".  In case you were wondering (and I'll
| simplify this to fit your world view), scrutiny is how the good
| people know that the judges and police are not bad people.  This
| whole citizen / non-citizen / enemy combatant thing seems to boil
| down to one question: Can the bad people we put in charge of this
| country plausibly deny the suspect a trial with scrutiny, which
| would allow bad judges and bad police to do bad things to a person
| who we haven't determined is a bad person?  If you want to get
| pissed off about something, consider the correlations between that
| and this:
|
| http://www.bartleby.com/65/st/StarCham.html
|
| > Under Chancellor Wolsey's leadership (1515-29), the Court of Star
| > Chamber became a political weapon, bringing actions against
| > opponents to the decrees and edicts of Henry VIII. Wolsey also
| > encouraged petitioners to use the Court of the Star Chamber as a
| > court of original jurisdiction, not as a last resort after the
| > common-law courts had failed.

and once again it comes down to motivation. intent. the purposes 
toward which the tactic is employed. again, pushing an old woman is 
generally wrong, but there is a distinction to be made over whether 
the purpose is to put her in front of a speeding bus or out of the 
path of that bus.

there have been closed proceedings in order to get court orders for as 
long as there has been a judicial system. one does not obtain a 
search warrant in open court. one has never obtained a wiretap 
warrant in open court.

of course, by your reasoning you ought to lop off your dick, if you 
have one, because it might get used to commit rape.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From henrik at enberg.org  Thu Jan 16 12:15:45 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> (The Archduke of Chicago
 and Subjugator of Michigan's message of "Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:32:37 -0600")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20030116133240.GD12646@linuxmafia.com>
	<200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org>
Message-ID: <87n0m03l72.fsf@enberg.org>

The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan <inkblot@movealong.org> writes:

> Just now dep made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this:
>
>> no, just a *lack* of thought. the social theory is this: here, we put 
>> bad people, or those of whom there is reason to believe they are bad, 
>> in jail. elsewhere, they put good people, or those of whom there is 
>> reason to believe they are good, in jail.
>
> That's an awefully simple world view... people being either "good" or
> "bad".

It's a prerequisite for becoming a conservative.  You can't be one
unless you're mama dropped you when you were a kid.


From b.molitor at gmx.net  Thu Jan 16 12:25:04 2003
From: b.molitor at gmx.net (Benjamin Molitor)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116133240.GD12646@linuxmafia.com> <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030116202504.GA3850@morpork>

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 01:10:43PM -0500, dep wrote:
> here, we put [...] those of whom there is reason to believe they are bad, 
> in jail. 

This is just so incredibly convenient! They should do that everywhere!

bm



From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Thu Jan 16 12:17:15 2003
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301161454.23079.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> <20030116194515.GC6088@zgp.org> <200301161454.23079.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030116201714.GB4656@8ball.wox.org>

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> no, you can tell them by the fact that persons from among them do 
> things like fly airplanes into the world trade center.

Man, you'll swallow anything they throw at you.  I suppose you believe
in the Easter Bunny and Cleveland, too.

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From henrik at enberg.org  Thu Jan 16 12:41:46 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301161528.44227.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of
 "Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:28:44 -0500")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> <87n0m03l72.fsf@enberg.org>
	<200301161528.44227.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <87k7h43jzp.fsf@enberg.org>

dep <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

> begin  Henrik Enberg's  quote:
>
> | It's a prerequisite for becoming a conservative.  You can't be one
> | unless you're mama dropped you when you were a kid.
>
> which is the kind of thing that can be said by someone sitting in a 
> socialist country with a high suicide rate, made safe because we've 
> been protecting your worthless asses for a century now. now, go rub 
> your mama's volvo.

Why didn't you send this to the list, you useless twit?  I don't want
personal mail from wankers.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Thu Jan 16 12:45:28 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <87k7h43jzp.fsf@enberg.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> <87n0m03l72.fsf@enberg.org> <200301161528.44227.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87k7h43jzp.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <20030116204527.GJ17207@zork.net>

begin  Henrik Enberg  quotation:
> Why didn't you send this to the list, you useless twit?  I don't want
> personal mail from wankers.

	Dep's a very dull sort of troll, isn't he?


From dmarti at zgp.org  Thu Jan 16 13:12:14 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Linux is not ready for the desktop.
Message-ID: <20030116211214.GK7245@zgp.org>

Here's why Linux is not ready for the desktop.  Forget enterprise
and office suite software -- four out of the top 5 "Best Freeware
Utilities" don't even run on Linux!

http://www1.internetwire.com/iwire/release_html_b1?release_id=50272

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From montaigne at att.net  Thu Jan 16 13:17:33 2003
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:54 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116204527.GJ17207@zork.net>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> <87n0m03l72.fsf@enberg.org> <200301161528.44227.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87k7h43jzp.fsf@enberg.org> <20030116204527.GJ17207@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030116211732.GA1642@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:45:28PM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:

> 	Dep's a very dull sort of troll, isn't he?

Oh look; how precious. The little geek children have virtually run out of
deprecatory remarks!

-- 
montaigne


From inkblot at movealong.org  Thu Jan 16 13:39:57 2003
From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Linux is not ready for the desktop.
In-Reply-To: <20030116211214.GK7245@zgp.org>
References: <20030116211214.GK7245@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20030116213957.GB27134@movealong.org>

Just now Don Marti made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this:
> Here's why Linux is not ready for the desktop.  Forget enterprise
> and office suite software -- four out of the top 5 "Best Freeware
> Utilities" don't even run on Linux!
> 
> http://www1.internetwire.com/iwire/release_html_b1?release_id=50272

"Contact: Maria Piech
 Phone: 818-293-1320"

-- 
--< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >--
American currency is neither red, white, nor blue.
pub  1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) <inkblot@movealong.org>
     Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757  C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Thu Jan 16 14:02:58 2003
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116211732.GA1642@localhost.localdomain>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> <87n0m03l72.fsf@enberg.org> <200301161528.44227.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87k7h43jzp.fsf@enberg.org> <20030116204527.GJ17207@zork.net> <20030116211732.GA1642@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030116220258.GC4656@8ball.wox.org>

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commence  Michel de Montaigne  quotation:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:45:28PM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
> 
> > 	Dep's a very dull sort of troll, isn't he?
> 
> Oh look; how precious. The little geek children have virtually run out of
> deprecatory remarks!

Hahahahahaha!  Deprecatory!  It's funny because it's dep.  It's a pun,
see?

...

You guys are no fun at all.

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From solitaire at tygger.net  Thu Jan 16 14:07:40 2003
From: solitaire at tygger.net (solitaire)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301161508.38704.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> <200301161508.38704.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030116220740.GA51846@lioness.tygger.net>

On the day of Sweetmorn, Chaos 16 YOLD 3169, dep enscribed thus: 
> 
> there have been closed proceedings in order to get court orders for as 
> long as there has been a judicial system. one does not obtain a 
> search warrant in open court. one has never obtained a wiretap 
> warrant in open court.
> 
> of course, by your reasoning you ought to lop off your dick, if you 
> have one, because it might get used to commit rape.

No, he simply needs to be prepared to show his dick to anyone who
asks.
Small price to pay for DEMOCRATIC FREEDOM!

sol.
.
-- 
 "It could be worse.  We could be Labyrinth."
	-- Morgan


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Thu Jan 16 14:18:17 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Linux is not ready for the desktop.
In-Reply-To: <20030116213957.GB27134@movealong.org>
References: <20030116211214.GK7245@zgp.org> <20030116213957.GB27134@movealong.org>
Message-ID: <20030116221816.GM17207@zork.net>

begin  The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan  quotation:
> Just now Don Marti made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this:
> > http://www1.internetwire.com/iwire/release_html_b1?release_id=50272
> 
> "Contact: Maria Piech
>  Phone: 818-293-1320"

	Yo yo yo 818! 


From carlos at laviola.org  Thu Jan 16 15:51:30 2003
From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030116235130.GB3062@laviola.org>

On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 07:32:17PM -0500, dep wrote:
> however, when people come here specifically to do us harm, or when 
> there is reason to believe that they intend so to do, then they have 
> the choice of facing suspicion here or -- and this is by far the 
> better choice -- staying the fuck home.

You call the United States of America your home?

Can I call the British invasion a terrorist attack, dep?  How is that
different?  Real Americans died back then.  What about these guys?

And one more thing.  Exactly who determines what is suspicious about
someone?  Who watches the watchmen?  What are the rules, exactly?

Fuck you and your god-bless-usa-now-pass-me-the-bowl-of-chick'n
attitude.  I'd like to see you love America from the outside.

-- 
Carlos Laviola <carlos@laviola.org>


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Thu Jan 16 16:45:57 2003
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116235130.GB3062@laviola.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116235130.GB3062@laviola.org>
Message-ID: <20030117004557.GD4656@8ball.wox.org>

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> Can I call the British invasion a terrorist attack, dep?  How is that
> different?  Real Americans died back then.  What about these guys?

I'm a bit confused.  Are you referring to the War of 1812, the seizure
of New Netherland, the French and Indian War, or the arrival of pop
sensations The Beatles?

Or am I centering on the North American continent too much?

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan 16 17:00:59 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey member phig@phig.org bouncing - disabled]
Message-ID: <20030117010059.GQ17207@zork.net>

EVERYBODY BOUNCES!

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From dave at zork.net  Thu Jan 16 17:02:51 2003
From: dave at zork.net (The One True Dave Barry)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030116235130.GB3062@laviola.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116235130.GB3062@laviola.org>
Message-ID: <20030117010251.GA25490@zork.net>

Quothe Carlos Laviola <carlos@laviola.org>, on Thu, Jan 16, 2003:
> Fuck you and your god-bless-usa-now-pass-me-the-bowl-of-chick'n
> attitude.  I'd like to see you love America from the outside.
> 

Viva La Raza!

-- 
=================-------------------------------=========================
| Dave Barry	| I urge you to stand up, for 	| dave@zork.net         |
| ...  		| all those who can't stand on	| http://psax.org/~dave	|
|		| their own.			| 			|
|		| --Sen. Paul Wellstone		|			|
=================-------------------------------=========================


From henrik at enberg.org  Thu Jan 16 17:12:12 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030117010251.GA25490@zork.net> (The One True Dave Barry's
 message of "Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:02:51 -0800")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20030116235130.GB3062@laviola.org> <20030117010251.GA25490@zork.net>
Message-ID: <87r8bc7f6b.fsf@enberg.org>

The One True Dave Barry <dave@zork.net> writes:

> Viva La Raza!

Ha Ha ignorant yank.


From unknown at panax.com  Thu Jan 16 17:47:37 2003
From: unknown at panax.com (Patrick McFarland)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
Message-ID: <20030117014737.GC6423@panax.com>

On 16-Jan-2003, dep wrote:
> begin  Don Marti's  quote:
> 
> | You can tell the bad ones because their food smells funny.  Damn,
> | dude, don't you know _anything_?
> 
> no, you can tell them by the fact that persons from among them do 
> things like fly airplanes into the world trade center.

Thats just the deep end. "Bad" people also do things like go into the woods
and tie squirels down, and strip off its skin slowly using a pocket knife,
while its still alive. "Bad" people come in many forms, and not all of them
are from the "outside." (ie, countries not allied to the USA) Infact, many
come from the "inside," and are the deamons "good" people fight every day, such
as the RIAA, the Bush Administration, and other groups that don't work for
the common good.

-- 
Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd 
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989


From jdub at perkypants.org  Thu Jan 16 17:58:48 2003
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey member phig@phig.org bouncing - disabled]
In-Reply-To: <20030117010059.GQ17207@zork.net>
References: <20030117010059.GQ17207@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030117015848.GC7996@lazarus>

<quote who="Nick Moffitt">

> EVERYBODY BOUNCES!

Shoes with zippers.

- Jeff

-- 
         "It's my head, Schwartz - it's my head!" - John Malkovich          


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Thu Jan 16 18:02:31 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <20030117014640.GB6423@panax.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301161454.23079.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030117014640.GB6423@panax.com>
Message-ID: <200301162102.31684.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Patrick McFarland's  quote:

| Thats just the deep end. "Bad" people also do things like go into
| the woods and tie squirels down, and strip off its skin slowly
| using a pocket knife, while its still alive. "Bad" people come in
| many forms, and not all of them are from the "outside." (ie,
| countries not allied to the USA) Infact, many come from the
| "inside," and are the deamons "good" people fight every day, such
| as the RIAA, the Bush Administration, and other groups that don't
| work for the common good.

what unmitigated relativist bullshit.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From rick at linuxmafia.com  Thu Jan 16 19:41:02 2003
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301160820.09840.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116133240.GD12646@linuxmafia.com> <200301161310.44137.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030117034102.GK12646@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting dep (dep@linuxandmain.com):

> the social theory is this: here, we put bad people, or those of whom
> there is reason to believe they are bad, in jail. elsewhere, they put
> good people, or those of whom there is reason to believe they are
> good, in jail.

Yeah, Mongo bang sticks together, make fire.

Call me back in a few hundred thousand years, when you've progressed to
the concept of due process.  Meanwhile, kindly collect all your
Manzanar-minded thug-wannabe buddies, rent a rowboat, and get the fuck
off my continent.

-- 
Cheers,           "I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate
Rick Moen         those who do.  And, for the people who like country music,
rick@linuxmafia.com         denigrate means 'put down'."      -- Bob Newhart


From dave at zork.net  Thu Jan 16 22:08:31 2003
From: dave at zork.net (The One True Dave Barry)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or science?
In-Reply-To: <87r8bc7f6b.fsf@enberg.org>
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301151831.54966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1042673226.20597.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200301151932.17654.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030116235130.GB3062@laviola.org> <20030117010251.GA25490@zork.net> <87r8bc7f6b.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <20030117060831.GA27158@zork.net>

Quothe Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org>, on Fri, Jan 17, 2003:
> Ha Ha ignorant yank.

ha ha he didn't get it.

-- 
=================-------------------------------=========================
| Dave Barry	| I urge you to stand up, for 	| dave@zork.net         |
| ...  		| all those who can't stand on	| http://psax.org/~dave	|
|		| their own.			| 			|
|		| --Sen. Paul Wellstone		|			|
=================-------------------------------=========================


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Wed Jan 15 22:32:58 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
 unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030115205832.GG29878@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of
 "Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:58:32 -0800")
References: <20030115205832.GG29878@zork.net>
Message-ID: <8765spvc2t.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:

    NM> Crap!  The United Arab Freemasons are on to us.

You moron! That's the University of Atomic Florida domain.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
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X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Fri Jan 17 04:31:58 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "uncertainty principle is untenable" -- spam or
 science?
In-Reply-To: <200301161454.23079.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of
 "Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:54:22 -0500")
References: <200301102147.22905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20030116193237.GA26443@movealong.org> <20030116194515.GC6088@zgp.org>
	<200301161454.23079.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <87y95kkldt.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "d" == dep  <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

    d> no, you can tell them by the fact that persons from among them
    d> do things like fly airplanes into the world trade center.

By that logic, all conservatives should be put in jail, because
persons from among them blow up Federal buildings.

Or, say, that since persons from among "them" invented algebra, "they"
should all be made math department heads.

Guilt, or blessing, by association is an unamerican principle,
period. Love it or leave it, you commie bastard.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
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From carton at Ivy.NET  Fri Jan 17 14:15:18 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] J18
Message-ID: <oq7kd3779l.fsf@balthasar.nat>

Are yous guys all going to J18?

-- 
Le fascisme est la dictature ouverte de la bourgeoisie.
		-- Georg Dimitrov


From nick at zork.net  Fri Jan 17 14:20:23 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net>

Kook University!  I loved that game!  Actuall, folks with zork
accounts can just run "kooku" to play.  YOu're a sysadmin trying to
fix the news servers on your campus, meanwhile, all the kooks are
spamming and scamming all over campus!

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

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From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Fri Jan 17 14:21:00 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] J18
In-Reply-To: <oq7kd3779l.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <oq7kd3779l.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20030117222100.GB17207@zork.net>

begin  Trolldozer for Hire  quotation:
> Are yous guys all going to J18?

	I'll be in New York, and have to miss the fun.


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Fri Jan 17 19:29:02 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net>
References: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net>
Message-ID: <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>:

> Kook University!  I loved that game!  Actuall, folks with zork
> accounts can just run "kooku" to play.

Hmmm...I seem to be having trouble logging into my zork account. Please send
me my username and password again.


-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Fri Jan 17 20:46:16 2003
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <20030118044616.GE4656@8ball.wox.org>

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commence  Bob Bernstein  quotation:
> Quoting Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>:
> 
> > Kook University!  I loved that game!  Actuall, folks with zork
> > accounts can just run "kooku" to play.
> 
> Hmmm...I seem to be having trouble logging into my zork account. Please send
> me my username and password again.

Ha ha, nice try, but zork.net doesn't use passwords, every user is
shipped a special iris scanner to use for authentication purposes.
- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Fri Jan 17 21:32:22 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net>
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Quoting Brian Danger Hicks <hick0142@tc.umn.edu>:

> Ha ha, nice try, but zork.net doesn't use passwords, every user is
> shipped a special iris scanner to use for authentication purposes.

Ha ha yourself. My account is being set up right now, as we speak!!

-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Fri Jan 17 21:54:30 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <1042867942.3e28e6e6d631a@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042867942.3e28e6e6d631a@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <20030118055430.GP17207@zork.net>

begin  Bob Bernstein  quotation:
> Quoting Brian Danger Hicks <hick0142@tc.umn.edu>:
> 
> > Ha ha, nice try, but zork.net doesn't use passwords, every user is
> > shipped a special iris scanner to use for authentication purposes.
> 
> Ha ha yourself. My account is being set up right now, as we speak!!

	Fortunately for me, the two of you have never spoken.


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Fri Jan 17 22:17:09 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <1042867942.3e28e6e6d631a@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042867942.3e28e6e6d631a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042867942.3e28e6e6d631a@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <1042870629.3e28f1655caf5@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco
<monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org>:

> 	Fortunately for me, the two of you have never spoken.

Just a figure of speech. I didn't want to make it that obvious that you were
setting up the account for me. Thanks, and I'm logging in just fine now.

You da man!

-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Fri Jan 17 22:21:57 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <1042870629.3e28f1655caf5@webmail.spamcop.net>
References: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042867942.3e28e6e6d631a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042867942.3e28e6e6d631a@webmail.spamcop.net> <1042870629.3e28f1655caf5@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <20030118062157.GS17207@zork.net>

begin  Bob Bernstein  quotation:
> Just a figure of speech. I didn't want to make it that obvious that
> you were setting up the account for me. Thanks, and I'm logging in
> just fine now.

Never logged in.



From sam at dasbistro.com  Sat Jan 18 02:11:41 2003
From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net>
References: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030118101141.GN17407@dasbistro.com>

On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 02:20:23PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote:
> Kook University!  I loved that game!  Actuall, folks with zork
> accounts can just run "kooku" to play.  YOu're a sysadmin trying to
> fix the news servers on your campus, meanwhile, all the kooks are
> spamming and scamming all over campus!
> 

[zork(~)] ls -l kooku.sav 
-rw-r--r--    1 sam      sam          1778 Mar 26  2001 kooku.sav

I probably should finish that game someday.

-- 
Sam Phillips <sam@dasbistro.com>             http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam
Das Bistro Heavy Industries                       Histogram Valley, Nevada


From pedro at tastytronic.net  Sat Jan 18 08:32:13 2003
From: pedro at tastytronic.net (Peter A. Peterson II)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030118044616.GE4656@8ball.wox.org>
References: <20030117222023.GA17207@zork.net> <1042860542.3e28c9fecfe83@webmail.spamcop.net> <20030118044616.GE4656@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <20030118163213.GP6602@tastytronic.net>

Quoting Brian D. Hicks:
> > Hmmm...I seem to be having trouble logging into my zork account. Please send
> > me my username and password again.

Iris Scanner? What? I just use my CueCat to read the barcode on my
forehead!

pedro


From ruben at mrbrklyn.com  Sat Jan 18 18:26:53 2003
From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Crack Monkeys sighted in NYC:  Mayor will tax them!
Message-ID: <20030118212653.C28413@www2.mrbrklyn.com>

-- 
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....

1-718-382-0585


From ruben at mrbrklyn.com  Sat Jan 18 18:32:28 2003
From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (CEO of Brooklyn)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Crack Monkeys sighted in NYC:  Mayor will tax them!
In-Reply-To: <20030118212653.C28413@www2.mrbrklyn.com>; from ruben@mrbrklyn.com on Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 21:26:53 -0500
References: <20030118212653.C28413@www2.mrbrklyn.com>
Message-ID: <20030118213228.A28615@www2.mrbrklyn.com>

How many Crack monkeys are Coming to NYC.

Anyone need a place to Sleep?

Well - USE THE IRT then, cause your not staying with me!!!

Don is roasting Richard Stallman that Friday Night - We will be taping it!


On 2003.01.18 21:26 Ruben I Safir wrote:
> 
> -- 
> __________________________
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> __________________________
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com
> 
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> 
> 1-718-382-0585
> 
> _______________________________________________
> CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks
> http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey
> 
-- 
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....

1-718-382-0585


From ruben at mrbrklyn.com  Sat Jan 18 18:33:22 2003
From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (CEO of Brooklyn)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Crack Monkeys sighted in NYC:  Mayor will tax them!
In-Reply-To: <20030118212653.C28413@www2.mrbrklyn.com>; from ruben@mrbrklyn.com on Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 21:26:53 -0500
References: <20030118212653.C28413@www2.mrbrklyn.com>
Message-ID: <20030118213322.C28615@www2.mrbrklyn.com>

How many Crack monkeys are Coming to NYC.

Anyone need a place to Sleep?

Well - USE THE IRT then, cause your aint staying with me!!!

Don is roasting Richard Stallman that Friday Night - We will be taping it!



-- 
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....

1-718-382-0585


From nick at zork.net  Sat Jan 18 20:46:01 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030119044600.GX17207@zork.net>

greeeeeeat.  I wonder if he started a mail loop with the !-filter.

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From nick at zork.net  Sat Jan 18 23:42:55 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The status is that Tim Eyman is a horse's ass
Message-ID: <20030119074255.GD17207@zork.net>

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/104834_eyman18.asp
> Bill supporters said making petition sheets smaller would make it
> easier and more convenient for them. They could save money and time,
> they said, by printing petition sheets from their computers or using
> regular envelopes to mail them out.
> 
> Eyman said the bill was "striking because it's so rare." The hurdle
> is high enough with the requirement that 200,000 signatures be
> gathered, he said.
> 
> But to prove how he says the process has gotten out of control,
> Seattleite David Goldstein is pushing an initiative that says, "The
> citizens of the state of Washington do hereby proclaim that Tim
> Eyman is a horse's ass."
> 
> "Any schmo can go to Olympia and pay $5 and file an initiative,"
> said Goldstein, a computer programmer. "I'm the schmo who did it
> this week.  Whoever claimed I had any credibility? I wrote an
> initiative about a guy being a horse's ass."

This reminds me of the Stockwell Day petition put out by the This Hour
has 22 Minutes folks.  Day wanted any petition with 300,000 Canadian
signatures on it to force a constitutional referendum or something.
The 22minutes folks got 500,000 signatures for a referendum making the
Canadian constitution force Stockwell Day to change his first name to
"Doris".


From ruben at mrbrklyn.com  Sun Jan 19 06:52:11 2003
From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (CEO of Brooklyn)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The status is that Tim Eyman is a horse's ass
In-Reply-To: <20030119074255.GD17207@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 02:42:55 -0500
References: <20030119074255.GD17207@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030119095211.A9923@www2.mrbrklyn.com>

>Day wanted any petition with 300,000 Canadian
> signatures on it to force a constitutional referendum or something.
> The 22minutes folks got 500,000 signatures for a referendum making the
> Canadian constitution force Stockwell Day to change his first name to
> "Doris".
>

Can I still sign?

-- 
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....

1-718-382-0585


From ruben at mrbrklyn.com  Mon Jan 20 06:56:52 2003
From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (CEO of Brooklyn)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Great Free Software Position open at Major International Company
In-Reply-To: <20030120025023.G12017@www2.mrbrklyn.com>; from ruben@mrbrklyn.com on Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:50:23 -0500
References: <20030120024931.E12017@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030120025023.G12017@www2.mrbrklyn.com>
Message-ID: <20030120095652.A16716@www2.mrbrklyn.com>

 On 2003.01.20 02:50 Ruben I Safir wrote:

Services Line Architect

People with passion...at Microsoft they helped turned the potential of
software into a reality that changed our world. Here?s your chance to be
a part of what comes next.

A Services Line Architect with the Competitive Platforms Team, define
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Competitive Platforms Team and focuses on UNIX Application Migration.
Also, the Competitive Platforms team is focused on maximizing the value
that our customers get from their investment in Microsoft application
infrastructure by assisting them with moving their UNIX based
applications to the Microsoft Platform. The SLA will be a key member of
the team and will guide how the team will offer services including, but
not limited to the delivery of workshops and proof of concept
implementations.

The Solution Line Architect will be responsible for mapping out a course
for the team regarding the delivery of services around Microsoft?s
application development, and UNIX compatibility products and solutions.
This will require an excellent understanding of the competitive
UNIX/Linux market place and an understanding of the capabilities of our
products and services relative to the competition. The Architect will be
responsible for using this information to determine where and how we
will be the most successful. The Architect will also be responsible for
establishing a close relationship with the product group both from a
technical and initiative perspective and will provide consistent
feedback to those groups to allow them to fine tune products and
programs. Travel of up to 50% is expected for this position.

We are looking for individuals that have a desire to make a difference
in the company, and have a sustained record of delivering high value
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the industry, and have both deep UNIX/Linux and deep Microsoft
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On 2003.01.20 02:49 Ruben I Safir wrote: > >
http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=16895333&col=&cy=US&brd=1&lid=550&fn=&jt=&q=Linux&AVSDM=2003%2D01%2D17+12%3A31%3A00%2E000&CCD=my%2Emonster%2Ecom&JSD=jobsearch%2Emonster%2Ecom&HD=company%2Emonster%2Ecom&AD=http%3A%2F%2Fjobsearch%2Emonster%2Ecom%2Fjobsearch%2Easp%3Fbrd%3D1%26lid%3D550%26jt%3D1%26jt%3D2%26jt%3D3%26jt%3D4%26q%3DLinux%26tm%3D7d%26sq%3D&LOGO=1
> -- > __________________________ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions >
__________________________ > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS
http://fairuse.nylxs.com > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting >
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com -
Leadership Development in Free Software >
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html -
See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... > > 1-718-382-0585 >
____________________________ > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene >
Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > --
__________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS
http://fairuse.nylxs.com

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy
Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html -
See the New Downtown Brooklyn....

1-718-382-0585 ____________________________ New Yorker Free Software
Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... --
__________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS
http://fairuse.nylxs.com

http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy
Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html -
See the New Downtown Brooklyn....

1-718-382-0585 


From nick at zork.net  Mon Jan 20 10:31:23 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030120183122.GI17207@zork.net>

subdimension offers free patchouli e-mail to all the peoples of the
world

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CrackMonkey.



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From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Mon Jan 20 10:57:49 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20030120183122.GI17207@zork.net>
References: <20030120183122.GI17207@zork.net>
Message-ID: <1043089069.3e2c46adbdd65@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>:

> subdimension offers free patchouli e-mail to all the peoples of the
> world

...and a proprietary webmail client.

-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan 22 13:57:42 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030122215742.GA14319@zork.net>

ha ha hank

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From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan 22 21:41:14 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dispatch From Thailand
Message-ID: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>

http://pigdog.org/auto/digital_gar_gar_gar/link/2781.html
> BUT, you see, BUT, there was a little hitch in the plan for everyone
> to put out their declaration and head back to their swanky hotels
> for a night of high-priced Japanese food-sex hookers. The hitch was
> that the US delegation -- delegates from the US Department of State,
> folks, people paid using our tax money -- demanded the removal of
> the clause for support of Open Source software. Apparently, the US
> government is OFFICIALLY AGAINST Free Software, and intends to block
> international efforts to support its use.

Beaujolais to Mister Bad for another fine piece of investigative
journalismo!


From simm at zork.net  Thu Jan 23 05:25:41 2003
From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dispatch From Thailand
In-Reply-To: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030123132541.GA5132@zork.net>

begin  Nick Moffitt  quotation:
> http://pigdog.org/auto/digital_gar_gar_gar/link/2781.html
> > BUT, you see, BUT, there was a little hitch in the plan for everyone
> > to put out their declaration and head back to their swanky hotels
> > for a night of high-priced Japanese food-sex hookers. The hitch was
> > that the US delegation -- delegates from the US Department of State,
> > folks, people paid using our tax money -- demanded the removal of
> > the clause for support of Open Source software. Apparently, the US
> > government is OFFICIALLY AGAINST Free Software, and intends to block
> > international efforts to support its use.
> 
> Beaujolais to Mister Bad for another fine piece of investigative
> journalismo!
> 

One day I'm going to visit Thairabia and see the pyramids.

-- 
Simm Al-Aekrib                          |   Optical Illusion Fun!!
"I have a prodigious quantity of mind;  |        )----------(
it takes me as much as a week           |        (----------) 
sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain |  Which line is longer???





From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan 23 07:49:11 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 22 January 2003]
Message-ID: <20030123154911.GE14319@zork.net>

Okay, so I know ditherati is all uncool and all, and this one has a
vaguely ABM tint to it, and I really can't stand the Rocky XVII
phenomenon as it pertains to these stupid memos, buuut...

----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas <owen@ditherati.net> -----

     D I T H E R A T I
     see the digerati dither, daily

       HE DIDN'T GET THE HALLOWEEN MEMO

     "Our thinking about how to talk to customers about Linux
     has clearly evolved. Two years ago, there was a lot of
     emotion in our discussion."

         Microsoft executive Peter Houston, on the software company's
         kinder, gentler, less histrionic approach to open source,
         News.com, 22 January 2003

       http://news.com.com/2008-1082-981508.html

----- End forwarded message -----

You gotta admit that's pretty funny.  HA HA CAP ON YOU MISTER HOUSTON!
WE SAID JINX FIRST SO NOW YOU GOTTA DRINK FROM THE TOILET BOWL.


From jv at zork.net  Thu Jan 23 12:25:38 2003
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: Praising with Feint Damn (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 22 January 2003])
In-Reply-To: <20030123154911.GE14319@zork.net>
References: <20030123154911.GE14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030123202538.GB16761@zork.net>

Nick's transparent rule commands obedience.  Your interpretation may 
vary.  Nick provides quality content.  Obey your thirst.  -jv  



From jv at zork.net  Thu Jan 23 13:21:45 2003
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: Blast from the Past (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Dispatch From Thailand)
In-Reply-To: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030123212145.GD16761@zork.net>

.us' uneconomical and inhumane measures against .vn 

accident, deliberate, plausible indifference

no human shields for .vn; not even suicide-suicide by Actual Immolation 

?did you read... some affiliate of Workers from .bg pledge pilgrimage
to .iq as human shields... UNMOVIC as shields in place.  -jv

p.s... once all the gates-folk were warlike & mean... then they, riaa, 
All the Host of Mammon hired .us to host their conceits... stop the 
presses:  .us hijacked by un-Americans



From henrik at enberg.org  Thu Jan 23 13:49:54 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Blast from the Past
In-Reply-To: <20030123212145.GD16761@zork.net> (Juggler Vain's message of
 "Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:21:45 -0800")
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>
	<20030123212145.GD16761@zork.net>
Message-ID: <87ptqn1qpp.fsf@enberg.org>

Juggler Vain <jv@zork.net> writes:

> ?did you read... some affiliate of Workers from .bg pledge pilgrimage
> to .iq as human shields... UNMOVIC as shields in place.  -jv

As to believe wickedness and US usual, were have a choice israelicopters
firing missiles into and killicopters firinguished reporrendous all
along, and wickedness and other poor and with good PR, eve a chorrendous
criments will carry so, contributing to  the lies and killing civil
liberties justified horror plans for milian  homes and put them into
ple, Clinton's bombing of the Sudays.


From neale at woozle.org  Thu Jan 23 14:10:19 2003
From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Blast from the Past
In-Reply-To: <87ptqn1qpp.fsf@enberg.org> (Henrik Enberg's message of "Thu,
 23 Jan 2003 22:49:54 +0100")
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>
	<20030123212145.GD16761@zork.net> <87ptqn1qpp.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <w53smvjtt4k.fsf@woozle.org>

Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:

> Juggler Vain <jv@zork.net> writes:
>
>> ?did you read... some affiliate of Workers from .bg pledge pilgrimage
>> to .iq as human shields... UNMOVIC as shields in place.  -jv
>
> As to believe wickedness and US usual, were have a choice israelicopters
> firing missiles into and killicopters firinguished reporrendous all
> along, and wickedness and other poor and with good PR, eve a chorrendous
> criments will carry so, contributing to  the lies and killing civil
> liberties justified horror plans for milian  homes and put them into
> ple, Clinton's bombing of the Sudays.

Has anyone else noticed this place sounding more and more like a Susan
Ye convention lately?  Maybe it's just me.

Neale


From carton at Ivy.NET  Thu Jan 23 15:20:56 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:55 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Blast from the Past
In-Reply-To: <87ptqn1qpp.fsf@enberg.org>
 (Henrik Enberg's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:49:54 +0100")
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>
 <20030123212145.GD16761@zork.net> <87ptqn1qpp.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <oqk7gvqwpz.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "he" == Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:

    he> israelicopters firing missiles into and killicopters
    he> firinguished

Hurrah for the wireless Juggler Vain!

Ra!
Ra!

-- 
I don't have to be outraged to throw a brick at a cop.  That was a
``tactical brick,'' and that cop was ``collateral damage.''


From carton at Ivy.NET  Thu Jan 23 15:27:02 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Praising with Feint(pun! pun!) Damn
In-Reply-To: <20030123202538.GB16761@zork.net>
 (Juggler Vain's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:25:38 -0800")
References: <20030123154911.GE14319@zork.net>
 <20030123202538.GB16761@zork.net>
Message-ID: <oqhebzqwft.fsf_-_@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "jv" == Juggler Vain <jv@zork.net> writes:

    jv> Nick's transparent rule commands obedience.  

Transparency has always been the watchword of the International
Crackmonkey Syndicate.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Thu Jan 23 21:05:16 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Blast from the Past
In-Reply-To: <87ptqn1qpp.fsf@enberg.org>
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net> <20030123212145.GD16761@zork.net> <87ptqn1qpp.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <20030124050516.GK14319@zork.net>

begin  Henrik Enberg  quotation:
> As to believe wickedness and US usual, were have a choice
> israelicopters firing missiles into and killicopters firinguished
> reporrendous all along, and wickedness and other poor and with good
> PR, eve a chorrendous criments will carry so, contributing to  the
> lies and killing civil liberties justified horror plans for milian
> homes and put them into ple, Clinton's bombing of the Sudays.

	This reads like The Weaver from Perdido Street Station.


From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan 23 21:06:40 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030124050640.GL14319@zork.net>

You should talk to our Edge Techology Consultant.

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From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Thu Jan 23 22:06:22 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Comics corrections
In-Reply-To: <001601c2c304$c4db7f40$b2d3c03f@pacbell.net>
References: <001601c2c304$c4db7f40$b2d3c03f@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20030124060622.GO14319@zork.net>

begin  Dan Siegler  quotation:
>    Mr. Crack Monkey:
> 
>    Re: http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2002q3/033225.html
> 
>    Glad to see your interest in the SF comics scene.  However, I'd
>    like to offer a few corrections:

	We here at the International Crackmonkey Syndicate take a keen
interest in local San Francisco publications.  We will put your letter
on file with our records department.  If you wish to see a copy of
this document, please visit our public offices between the hours of
10am and 3pm, tuesdays through thursdays (except holidays).

>    1)  The comic strip you refer to as "Smartfeller" is actually
>    called "Smarter Feller!"

	Good to see that the SF Bay Weekly Metro/Tribune continues its
tradition of hiring the best and the brightest fact-checkers.

	I'm a relative newbie to San Francisco, by most measures, but
even *I* remember when SmartFeller changed its name to Smarter Feller.
I think he started adding in a second stick man more often or
something as well.  A quick Web Search turns up an interview that says
that Dave's sister Beth named the successor strip when Dave wanted to
get rid of a collaborator and reinvent the thing.

	The fascination with the Gold Club Guy seemed to span the two
incarnations of the strip, however.  

>    2)  Troubletown didn't replace anything in SF Weekly.  It doesn*t
>    even run in the Weekly.  Troubletown is a Guardian strip.

	If you re-read the mail referenced above, you'll see that I
was talking about the state of both papers.  However, you are correct
in that troubletown didn't replace much of anything specifically.

>    3)  Puni never got moved to the back of the paper.  It's always
>    been in the same general place around pages 7-15, as it is to
>    this day.

	Again, I never once said it was moved to the back of the
paper.  The above referenced mail says "moved back in the paper",
meaning it's not a page 3.  I may be misremembering the issue when
Smarter Feller was pushed around from page 1 to page 3 to make room
for more ads.

>    4)  Yes, I did in fact come swooping-in from the suburbs. (1996)
>    I came here to escape the vacuous cultureless mind numbing hell
>    of suburbia, like tens of thousands of other folks do every year.
>    The creator of Smarter Feller, Dave Eggers, came here from Lake
>    Forest, Illinois.  Which, you will note, is also a suburb.

	I have a small mole on my left arm.  You wouldn't really know
it's much of a mole, since it blends in with the other freckles, but
it does grow a rather long hair.  I mean, it grows hair like the rest
of my arm, but much faster.  Recently it started growing two hairs,
but for a while one was growing faster than the other.  I just
discovered that both are growing at the same rate now.  Maybe I could
try picking up TV signals on the things.

>    5)  I happen to be familiar with the cartoonists you mention.
>    They, like me, can be described without hyperbole as "dirt poor."
>    I've yet to meet a cartoonist to rise above that income bracket.
>    (Even though we all strive too.)  In fact, as I type these words,
>    I'm feasting upon a luxurious dinner of mac n' cheese in a box.

	We here at the International CrackMonkey Syndicate salute your
journalistic authenticity, and support your vegetarian diet of boxed
carbohydrates.  If you are left handed, you may wish to apply for the
very exclusive association of Left Handed Vegetarian Esperanto
Speakers, which has meetings at Indian restaurants.  In any event,
remember to hold a bottle by the neck but a lady by the waist.

-- 
Monkey Master
International CrackMonkey Syndicate
Weights and Measures Department


From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan 23 22:10:18 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 23 January 2003]
Message-ID: <20030124061018.GQ14319@zork.net>

IF this isn't pigdog journal material, I don't know what is.

----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas <owen@ditherati.net> -----

     D I T H E R A T I
     see the digerati dither, daily

       PLAYER HATER

     "I think there are going to be as many ways to deliver
     music as we can think of."

         Outgoing RIAA head Hilary Rosen, who announced her
         resignation from the music-industry association shortly
         after revealing in an interview that she owns an iPod --
         the very kind of device she tried to kill with a lawsuit
         five short years ago, Wired, February 2003

       http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.02/hating.html

----- End forwarded message -----


From aelmore at interwoven.com  Fri Jan 24 00:12:14 2003
From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Comics corrections
In-Reply-To: <20030124060622.GO14319@zork.net>
References: <001601c2c304$c4db7f40$b2d3c03f@pacbell.net> <20030124060622.GO14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030124081214.GE62038@interwoven.com>

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 10:06:22PM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
> that Dave's sister Beth named the successor strip when Dave wanted to
                     ^^^^
		     The only word I read in your post.


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Sat Jan 25 02:53:03 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dispatch From Thailand
In-Reply-To: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of
 "Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:41:14 -0800")
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <87vg0dzek0.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:

    NM> Beaujolais to Mister Bad for another fine piece of
    NM> investigative journalismo!

Thanks.

Now, how are we going to get Don Marti to Geneva in December?

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From ruben at mrbrklyn.com  Sat Jan 25 11:32:03 2003
From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dispatch From Thailand
In-Reply-To: <87vg0dzek0.fsf@pigdog.org>; from mr.bad@pigdog.org on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:53:03 -0500
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net> <87vg0dzek0.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030125143203.A17122@www2.mrbrklyn.com>

Kyack
On 2003.01.25 05:53 Mister Bad wrote:
> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:
> 
>     NM> Beaujolais to Mister Bad for another fine piece of
>     NM> investigative journalismo!
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Now, how are we going to get Don Marti to Geneva in December?
> 
> ~Mr. Bad
> 
> -- 
> X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
> X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
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> X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey
> 
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From dmarti at zgp.org  Sat Jan 25 13:15:52 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dispatch From Thailand
In-Reply-To: <87vg0dzek0.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20030123054114.GB14319@zork.net> <87vg0dzek0.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030125211552.GB12631@zgp.org>

begin Mr. Bad quotation of Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:53:03PM +0700:

> Now, how are we going to get Don Marti to Geneva in December?

Je ne parle pas suisse, d3wd.  Peut-etre quelqu'un un peu plus
internationale sera un meilleur choix.

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From nick at zork.net  Mon Jan 27 06:43:26 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030127144326.GZ14319@zork.net>

noemads@nohotmail

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

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From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org  Mon Jan 27 08:57:10 2003
From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what a pity
Message-ID: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>

The superbowl between the Bucs and Raiders came and went, and nobody could
think of a pirate joke.




From chet at nogators.com  Mon Jan 27 09:50:01 2003
From: chet at nogators.com (Chet Farmer)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what a pity
In-Reply-To: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
References: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
Message-ID: <a05200f24ba5b21a7d7af@[192.168.1.201]>

At 8:57 AM -0800 1/27/03, #2 of Berkeley wrote:
>The superbowl between the Bucs and Raiders came and went, and nobody could
>think of a pirate joke.
>

You want just any pirate jokes, or pirate jokes that are also football jokes?

-- 
Chet
----
Proprietor, NoGators.com


From joakim at avmaria.com  Mon Jan 27 09:43:28 2003
From: joakim at avmaria.com (Joakim Ziegler)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what a pity
In-Reply-To: <a05200f24ba5b21a7d7af@[192.168.1.201]>
References: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
	 <a05200f24ba5b21a7d7af@[192.168.1.201]>
Message-ID: <1043689408.1686.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 11:50, Chet Farmer wrote:
> At 8:57 AM -0800 1/27/03, #2 of Berkeley wrote:
> >The superbowl between the Bucs and Raiders came and went, and nobody could
> >think of a pirate joke.

> You want just any pirate jokes, or pirate jokes that are also football jokes?

The term "drive" seems to be used in football. Go nuts with it.

-- 
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    joakim@avmaria.com - http://www.avmaria.com - rdgzt@Undernet
            http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.fix.no/
		






From henrik at enberg.org  Mon Jan 27 10:49:47 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: what a pity
In-Reply-To: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org> (#2
 of Berkeley's message of "Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:57:10 -0800 (PST)")
References: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
Message-ID: <871y2yjulw.fsf@enberg.org>

#2 of Berkeley <crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org> writes:

> The superbowl between the Bucs and Raiders came and went, and nobody could
> think of a pirate joke.

Pirates don't play rugby.


From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org  Mon Jan 27 11:23:48 2003
From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: what a pity
In-Reply-To: <871y2yjulw.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301271123340.28615-100000@vax.hanford.org>

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Henrik Enberg wrote:

> Pirates don't play rugby.

Nonsense!

http://www.piratesrugby.ca/index_main.html




From henrik at enberg.org  Mon Jan 27 12:46:22 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: what a pity
In-Reply-To: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301271123340.28615-100000@vax.hanford.org> (#2
 of Berkeley's message of "Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:23:48 -0800 (PST)")
References: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301271123340.28615-100000@vax.hanford.org>
Message-ID: <87vg0aian5.fsf@enberg.org>

#2 of Berkeley <crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org> writes:

> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Henrik Enberg wrote:
>
>> Pirates don't play rugby.
>
> Nonsense!
>
> http://www.piratesrugby.ca/index_main.html

But those are canadians.  Canadians with mullets.  Not real pirates.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Mon Jan 27 12:50:53 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what a pity
In-Reply-To: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
References: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
Message-ID: <20030127205053.GF14319@zork.net>

begin  #2 of Berkeley  quotation:
> The superbowl between the Bucs and Raiders came and went, and nobody
> could think of a pirate joke.

	Sorry, I don't watch much bowling.


From nick at zork.net  Mon Jan 27 13:17:09 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [dan@dansiegler.com: Re: Comics corrections]
Message-ID: <20030127211709.GG14319@zork.net>

THE PUNCHLINE

----- Forwarded message from Dan Siegler <dan@dansiegler.com> -----

Envelope-to: monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org
From: "Dan Siegler" <dan@dansiegler.com>
To: "Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco" <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org>
Subject: Re: Comics corrections
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:22:02 -0800
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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I can't open this file.  Can you resend as regular text?
---------
www.dansiegler.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco"
<monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org>
To: "Dan Siegler" <dan@dansiegler.com>
Cc: "International CrackMonkey Syndicate Records Department"
<crackmonkey@crackmonkey.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Comics corrections




----- End forwarded message -----


From Radix42 at Cox.Net  Mon Jan 27 13:24:19 2003
From: Radix42 at Cox.Net (David Mercer)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what a pity
In-Reply-To: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
References: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
Message-ID: <a05111b00ba5b5300606d@[192.168.2.2]>

>The superbowl between the Bucs and Raiders came and went, and nobody could
>think of a pirate joke.
>

Well, we loudly referred to it as the "Pirate Bowl" at the bar, and 
said "Arrrr!!!" quite frequently as we got more drunk, and my gf was 
wearing a black headscarf and piratesque pants...did anyone notice 
how lame the music they played when the Bucs came on field was 
compared to the more martial intro music the Raiders got?  We thought 
it sounded like some Star Trek TNG theme song or something, sheesh.

Anyhow, that was our annual sports experience....

-- 
David Mercer
Tucson, AZ
Radix42@Cox.Net


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Mon Jan 27 13:53:08 2003
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what a pity
In-Reply-To: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
References: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301270856310.16081-100000@vax.hanford.org>
Message-ID: <20030127215308.GA17075@8ball.wox.org>

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Give it five days.

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From carton at Ivy.NET  Mon Jan 27 15:25:43 2003
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: what a pity
In-Reply-To: <87vg0aian5.fsf@enberg.org>
 (Henrik Enberg's message of "Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:46:22 +0100")
References: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0301271123340.28615-100000@vax.hanford.org>
 <87vg0aian5.fsf@enberg.org>
Message-ID: <oqhebunpjc.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "he" == Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:

    he> But those are canadians.  Canadians with mullets.  Not real
    he> pirates.

Those are children from Newark.  Jailbait with pasty-white faces and
bras made out of electrical tape.  Not real goth sluts.

-- 
I don't have to be outraged to throw a brick at a cop.  That was a
``tactical brick,'' and that cop was ``collateral damage.''


From nick at zork.net  Mon Jan 27 15:38:15 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
Message-ID: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/24/eveningnews/main537928.shtml
> The battle plan is based on a concept developed at the National
> Defense University. It's called "Shock and Awe" and it focuses on
> the psychological destruction of the enemy's will to fight rather
> than the physical destruction of his military forces. 

Translation: Civillian targets instead of military ones.



From dep at linuxandmain.com  Mon Jan 27 15:41:57 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <200301271841.57035.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Nick Moffitt's  quote:
| http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/24/eveningnews/main537928.sh
|tml
|
| > The battle plan is based on a concept developed at the National
| > Defense University. It's called "Shock and Awe" and it focuses on
| > the psychological destruction of the enemy's will to fight rather
| > than the physical destruction of his military forces.
|
| Translation: Civillian targets instead of military ones.

dead wrong. as you will see in the next few weeks, so there's little 
point in arguing about it now.

-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From jv at zork.net  Mon Jan 27 18:11:14 2003
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: Neuter Bomb: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030128021114.GA7470@zork.net>

begin  Nick Moffitt quotation:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/24/eveningnews/main537928.shtml
> > The battle plan... "Shock and Awe"...
> > psychological destruction of the enemy's will to fight rather
> > than the physical destruction of his military forces. 

> Translation: Civillian targets instead of military ones.

Commentary:  Turning wolves to sheep.  -jv



From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Mon Jan 27 18:35:53 2003
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org>

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> > Defense University. It's called "Shock and Awe" and it focuses on
> > the psychological destruction of the enemy's will to fight rather
> > than the physical destruction of his military forces. 
> 
> Translation: Civillian targets instead of military ones.

I thought it meant that they would tremble at the sight of our
front-line battlemechs.
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From henrik at enberg.org  Mon Jan 27 22:08:27 2003
From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: goddamn
In-Reply-To: <200301271841.57035.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of
 "Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:41:57 -0500")
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
	<200301271841.57035.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <87smvd24dg.fsf@enberg.org>

dep <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

> dead wrong. as you will see in the next few weeks, so there's little 
> point in arguing about it now.

Damnit, did you take a class in servility or wer you born that way?


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Mon Jan 27 21:29:19 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <200301271841.57035.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of
 "Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:41:57 -0500")
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
	<200301271841.57035.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <87el6xj100.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "d" == dep  <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

    MM> Translation: Civillian targets instead of military ones.

    d> dead wrong. as you will see in the next few weeks, so there's
    d> little point in arguing about it now.

Are you willing to put money on that?

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Jan 28 02:06:05 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org>

begin Brian Danger Hicks quotation of Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 08:35:53PM -0600:

> I thought it meant that they would tremble at the sight of our
> front-line battlemechs.

A wise general will strive to feed off the enemy.  One bushel of
the enemy's provisions is worth twenty of our own.

    -- Sun Tsu

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Tue Jan 28 01:44:42 2003
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Darkness Quotient  National 851.88  Global 741.25
Message-ID: <E18dSIM-0006LZ-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

Here's a bit of the exchanges around the net about the Darkness Quotient.


Via
[ http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&threadm=zulZ9.33765%24QV3.3773697%40news2.west.cox.net&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26group%3Drec.arts.sf.science ]

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.science
            http://groups.google.com

From: "pervect" <pervect2@netscape.net>

My best guess is this is some sort of obscure joke.  See for instance

http://www.kgb.com/virginia.html

begin quote

Update
On January 6, 2003, World News Now replaced the National Temperature Index
with the National Darkness Quotient. Why? Who knows?
Anyway, the responsibility for producing the NTI has been assumed by KGB
Report, where it is crafted with care and diligence, adhering as closely as
possible to the "secret" formula used by ABC News' crack meteorologists. So
leave ABC alone. They have enough problems.
end quote

As far as real darkness goes, one of the brightest objects in the night sky
is the moon.  So there should be some correlation of the D.Q. with the phase
of the moon.  Darkness should increase as the moon goes from full to new.

While we only have two data points, they seem to go in the wrong direction.
On Jan 24, 2003, the moon was significantly fuller than it was on Jan 27,
but the darkness quotient was higher.

(for moon phases see for example)
http://www.stardate.org/nightsky/moon/





Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.science
            http://groups.google.com

From: Hop David <hopspage@tabletoptelephone.com>

This would be my guess. But if this were the case wouldn't the darkness 
quotient be a little more than 50 for U.S. (since it's winter) and 
exactly 50 for global? The numbers Saklad posted perplex me:

    World News Now ABCnews
    WNN Darkness Quotient

    Mon 27 Jan
    National 854.13
    Global   743.74

    Fri Jan 24
    National  860.63
    Global    746.50


Where the heck would a global number of 746.50 come from?

About the only people I've know of really interested in measuring 
darkness is astronomers (for example the Palomar astronomers asking San 
Diego to use low pressure sodium lights). Hardly an audience ABC News 
would bother investing air time for.

Hop
http://clowder.net/hop/index.html





Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.science
            http://groups.google.com

From: "Christopher M. Jones" <spicedham@dualboot.net>

Well, obviously, the entire world is always only 50% in
the dark.  Now, the "darkness quotient" for any given
spot on Earth would obviously be the ratio of the amount
of nightime to the total length of the day (24 hours).
The darkness quotient for the Earth could be the total
average darkness quotient for the *land* on Earth (since
few people live on the ocean) or the darkness quotient
averaged per person (e.g. weighted by population for
each location).





Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.science
            http://groups.google.com

1. Hypothetically, what might a formula to track and measure darkness,
   both globally and nationally, what might a Darkness Quotient be if
   it actually would be a kind of viable measurement
   calculated to 3 places and 2 decimal places?...

   World News Now ABCnews
   WNN Darkness Quotient
   
   Mon 27 Jan
   National 854.13
   Global   743.74
   
   Fri 24 Jan
   National 860.63
   Global   746.50



2. Where around the web is there a compilation of all measurements,
   calculations for the Darkness Quotient listed by date?...

   

World News Now ABCnews http://abcnews.go.com/Sections/WNN
has been broadcasting it overnight at about 5 minutes past the hour
and half hour during the weather report as a little mystery left for
viewers to figure out.

[ http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&threadm=zulZ9.33765%24QV3.3773697%40news2.west.cox.net&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26group%3Drec.arts.sf.science ]





 From: augustsbks@aol.comnospam (AugustsBks)
 Newsgroups: sci.geo.earthquakes
             http://groups.google.com

[ http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&threadm=20030127135050.05409.00000272%40mb-mp.aol.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26group%3Dsci.geo.earthquakes ]

DARKNESS QUOTIENT?  Jezu Kristu!  IS EVERYBODY GOING CRAZY AROUND HERE??  I
would think there could be a Northern vs. Southern Hemisphere darkness
quotient, which is determined by the seasons and the different lengths of
daylight North and South.  Also, I submit to you that the Darkness Quotient
will be different in Oslo, Norway than it is in Caracas, Venezuela, depending
entirely on the nearness to the Pole and distance from the Equator.  .

Right now the Sun in my particular locality is approaching the Midheaven and
conditions are cloudless.. The darkness quotient for the desert regions of
Southern Nevada, Arizona, and Eastern California, is remarkably low, though not
quite as low as it will be in June when it will be not only sunny but also hot.
Still, this will do until the real thing comes along, 65 or 67 degrees F in the
early PM.  Later in the afternoon, the darkness quotient will rise, especially
after sunset when the lowlifes rise from their slumbers. The darkness quotient
will be even higher at nightfall and after midnight, when some lights are
turned off and bad things happen in the dark.  The darkness quotient will be
higher in the deserted sagebrush desert regions, although compromised somewhat
by bright starlight, (there will be no Moon tonight, it was near the Midheaven
at 9:00 am and will spend most of the night 'under the earth' as seen from this
locale.  The darkness quotient is also likely to be much lower on "The Strip"
because of the illumination of millions of neon lights as well as the laser
beam going up 20 miles into the sky from the top of the Luxor's pyramid 
Although Las Vegas has its own peculiar brand of 'darkness'. Where there is
'lack of the good', there,  (hark!)  is truly darkness!   ---e.a.       

[ http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&threadm=20030127135050.05409.00000272%40mb-mp.aol.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26group%3Dsci.geo.earthquakes ]





 From: Uncle Al (UncleAl0@hate.spam.net)
 Newsgroups: sci.physics
             http://groups.google.com

[ http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&threadm=3E3583BD.1CEC13AF%40hate.spam.net&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26newwindow%3D1%26group%3Dsci.physics%26safe%3Doff%26start%3D75 ]



What does "darkness" mean, and in what spectral window?  The Earth
considerably outshines the sun in select spectral windows.

-- 
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"  The Net!


From claviola at ax.net.br  Tue Jan 28 04:48:24 2003
From: claviola at ax.net.br (Carlos Laviola)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Darkness Quotient  National 851.88  Global 741.25
In-Reply-To: <E18dSIM-0006LZ-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>
References: <E18dSIM-0006LZ-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <20030128124824.GA11350@alternex.com.br>

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:44:42AM -0500, Don Saklad wrote:
> Here's a bit of the exchanges around the net about the Darkness Quotient.

Could this be anymore boring than it already is?

-- 
Carlos Laviola <claviola@ax.net.br>
AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500


From joseph at nuasis.com  Tue Jan 28 07:49:24 2003
From: joseph at nuasis.com (joseph@nuasis.com)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org> <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <3E36A684.1070900@nuasis.com>

Don Marti wrote:

>A wise general will strive to feed off the enemy.  One bushel of
>the enemy's provisions is worth twenty of our own.
>
>    -- Sun Tsu
>

That is so fake. The Japanese didn't even use bushels.



From inkblot at movealong.org  Tue Jan 28 08:03:27 2003
From: inkblot at movealong.org (Nate Riffe)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <3E36A684.1070900@nuasis.com>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org> <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org> <3E36A684.1070900@nuasis.com>
Message-ID: <20030128160327.GA26420@movealong.org>

Just now joseph@nuasis.com made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this:
> Don Marti wrote:
> 
> >A wise general will strive to feed off the enemy.  One bushel of
> >the enemy's provisions is worth twenty of our own.
> >
> >   -- Sun Tsu
> >
> 
> That is so fake. The Japanese didn't even use bushels.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=understanding+ratios

-- 
--< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >--
American currency is neither red, white, nor blue.
pub  1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) <inkblot@movealong.org>
     Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757  C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0


From jordanb at hafd.org  Tue Jan 28 08:09:19 2003
From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <3E36A684.1070900@nuasis.com>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net>
        <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org>
        <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org>
        <3E36A684.1070900@nuasis.com>
Message-ID: <57650.163.191.24.14.1043770159.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org>

> Don Marti wrote:
>
>>A wise general will strive to feed off the enemy.  One bushel of
>>the enemy's provisions is worth twenty of our own.
>>
>>    -- Sun Tsu
>>
>
> That is so fake. The Japanese didn't even use bushels.

A) That's an artifact of the translation you half-wit.

B) Sun Tsu was Chinese.

--
Jordan Bettis <http://www.hafd.org/~jordanb>
"Congestion is the only form of traffic management that works in a
democratic society,"
          -- Vancouver City Councilor Gordon Price




From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Jan 28 08:16:38 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <57650.163.191.24.14.1043770159.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org> <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org> <3E36A684.1070900@nuasis.com> <57650.163.191.24.14.1043770159.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org>
Message-ID: <20030128161638.GD14319@zork.net>

begin  Jordan Bettis  quotation:
> >>One bushel of the enemy's provisions is worth twenty of our own.
> >>    -- Sun Tsu
> > That is so fake. The Japanese didn't even use bushels.
[...]
> B) Sun Tsu was Chinese.

	So where do you think these bushels of enemy provisions came
from?  Duh.


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Tue Jan 28 08:19:50 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <20030128161638.GD14319@zork.net>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <57650.163.191.24.14.1043770159.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org> <20030128161638.GD14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <200301281119.50954.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's  quote:
| begin  Jordan Bettis  quotation:
| > >>One bushel of the enemy's provisions is worth twenty of our
| > >> own. -- Sun Tsu
| > >
| > > That is so fake. The Japanese didn't even use bushels.
|
| [...]
|
| > B) Sun Tsu was Chinese.
|
| 	So where do you think these bushels of enemy provisions came
| from?  Duh.

the north koreans. that's why they don't have them now.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu  Tue Jan 28 08:57:07 2003
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:06:05 PST."
             <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org> 
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org>
            <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <200301281657.h0SGv7gM006520@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:06:05 PST, Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org>  said:
> A wise general will strive to feed off the enemy.  One bushel of
> the enemy's provisions is worth twenty of our own.
> 
>     -- Sun Tsu

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/01/28/congo.cannibals.ap/index.html

I think they got 'off' and 'on' confused in their translation...


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Tue Jan 28 09:02:23 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <20030128160327.GA26420@movealong.org>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <20030128023553.GC17075@8ball.wox.org> <20030128100604.GJ21360@zgp.org> <3E36A684.1070900@nuasis.com> <20030128160327.GA26420@movealong.org>
Message-ID: <20030128170223.GC20901@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 10:03:27AM -0600, Nate Riffe wrote:

> > That is so fake. The Japanese didn't even use bushels.
 
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=understanding+ratios

Ah...this is _still_ THE LIST. Pigdoggers and 'leetists, go pound sand.

-- 
Bob Bernstein

No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. 


From aelmore at interwoven.com  Tue Jan 28 13:30:30 2003
From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] cheese
Message-ID: <20030128213030.GL75105@interwoven.com>

http://www.chocodog.com/chocodog/ween/ween_new/audio.html

> In keeping in line with their new cutting edge image, the agency hired
> Ween to do the music, and we delivered in a big way.  Unfortunately,
> they didn't like a single piece of the 6 tunes we submitted


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Jan 28 16:36:42 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Learn to Talk like a Dope Fiend
Message-ID: <20030129003642.GB7954@zgp.org>

Bush: 
  Marijuana; cocaine; PCP

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/streetterms/ByAlpha.asp?strTerm=B

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Tue Jan 28 17:26:21 2003
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <200301281119.50954.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <20030128161638.GD14319@zork.net> <200301281119.50954.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <200301282026.21411.dep@linuxandmain.com>

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/clinton/

"Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical, and biological 
weapons programs, and its military capacity to threaten its 
neighbors. Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the 
United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the 
middle east and around the world."
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Jan 28 18:24:15 2003
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] goddamn
In-Reply-To: <200301282026.21411.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <20030127233815.GV14319@zork.net> <20030128161638.GD14319@zork.net> <200301281119.50954.dep@linuxandmain.com> <200301282026.21411.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20030129022415.GD8454@zgp.org>

One who knows the enemy and knows himself will not be in danger in a
hundred battles.  One who does not know the enemy but knows himself
will sometimes win, sometimes lose.  One who does not know the
enemy and does not know himself will be in danger in every battle.

    -- Sun Tzu

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.



From aelmore at interwoven.com  Tue Jan 28 18:05:27 2003
From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Learn to Talk like a Dope Fiend
In-Reply-To: <20030129003642.GB7954@zgp.org>
References: <20030129003642.GB7954@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20030129020527.GP75105@interwoven.com>

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:36:42PM -0800, Don Marti wrote:
> Bush: 
>   Marijuana; cocaine; PCP

And I thought they just called it dope.


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Tue Jan 28 21:36:16 2003
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] EFF and the World Summit on the Information Society
Message-ID: <87u1fsqzzj.fsf@pigdog.org>

Seth,

Do you know if the Electronic Freedom Foundation is participating at
all in the World Summit on the Information Society?

    http://www.itu.int/wsis/

It seems to me that when governments get together to debate the future
of information, advocates of freedom should probably be present.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From gary at inauspicious.org  Wed Jan 29 03:03:33 2003
From: gary at inauspicious.org (Gary Benson)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ASSISTANCE
Message-ID: <20030129110333.GA30345@inauspicious.org>

IMMEDIATE ATTENTION NEEDED:

HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL

FROM: GEORGE WALKER BUSH
DEAR SIR / MADAM,

I AM GEORGE WALKER BUSH, SON OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED 
STATES OF AMERICA GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, AND CURRENTLY SERVING AS 
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THIS LETTER MIGHT SURPRISE 
YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MET NEITHER IN PERSON NOR BY CORRESPONDENCE. I 
CAME TO KNOW OF YOU IN MY SEARCH FOR A RELIABLE AND REPUTABLE PERSON TO 
HANDLE A VERY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS TRANSACTION, WHICH INVOLVES THE 
TRANSFER OF A HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO AN ACCOUNT REQUIRING MAXIMUM CONFIDENCE.

I AM WRITING YOU IN ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE PRIMARILY TO SEEK YOUR 
ASSISTANCE IN ACQUIRING OIL FUNDS THAT ARE PRESENTLY TRAPPED IN THE 
REPUBLIC OF IRAQ. MY PARTNERS AND I SOLICIT YOUR ASSISTANCE IN 
COMPLETING A TRANSACTION BEGUN BY MY FATHER, WHO HAS LONG BEEN ACTIVELY 
ENGAGED IN THE EXTRACTION OF PETROLEUM IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 
AND BRAVELY SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS DIRECTOR OF THE UNITED STATES CENTRAL 
INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.

IN THE DECADE OF THE NINETEEN-EIGHTIES, MY FATHER, THEN VICE-PRESIDENT 
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, SOUGHT TO WORK WITH THE GOOD OFFICES OF 
THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF IRAQ TO REGAIN LOST OIL REVENUE SOURCES 
IN THE NEIGHBORING ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN. THIS UNSUCCESSFUL VENTURE 
WAS SOON FOLLOWED BY A FALLING OUT WITH HIS IRAQI PARTNER, WHO SOUGHT TO 
ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL OIL REVENUE SOURCES IN THE NEIGHBORING EMIRATE OF 
KUWAIT, A WHOLLY-OWNED U.S.-BRITISH SUBSIDIARY.

MY FATHER RE-SECURED THE PETROLEUM ASSETS OF KUWAIT IN 1991 AT A COST OF 
SIXTY-ONE BILLION U.S. DOLLARS ($61,000,000,000). OUT OF THAT COST.

THIRTY-SIX BILLION DOLLARS ($36,000,000,000) WERE SUPPLIED BY HIS 
PARTNERS IN THE KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA AND OTHER PERSIAN GULF 
MONARCHIES, AND SIXTEEN BILLION DOLLARS ($16,000,000,000) BY GERMAN AND 
JAPANESE PARTNERS.

BUT MY FATHER'S FORMER IRAQI BUSINESS PARTNER REMAINED IN CONTROL OF THE 
REPUBLIC OF IRAQ AND ITS PETROLEUM RESERVES.

MY FAMILY IS CALLING FOR YOUR URGENT ASSISTANCE IN FUNDING THE REMOVAL 
OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF IRAQ AND ACQUIRING THE PETROLEUM 
ASSETS OF HIS COUNTRY, AS COMPENSATION FOR THE COSTS OF REMOVING HIM 
FROM POWER.

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR PARTNERS FROM 1991 ARE NOT WILLING TO SHOULDER THE 
BURDEN OF THIS NEW VENTURE, WHICH IN ITS UPCOMING PHASE MAY COST THE SUM 
OF 100 BILLION TO 200 BILLION DOLLARS ($100,000,000,000 - 
$200,000,000,000), BOTH IN THE INITIAL ACQUISITION AND IN LONG-TERM 
MANAGEMENT.

WITHOUT THE FUNDS FROM OUR 1991 PARTNERS, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO 
ACQUIRE THE OIL REVENUE TRAPPED WITHIN IRAQ. THAT IS WHY MY FAMILY AND 
OUR COLLEAGUES ARE URGENTLY SEEKING YOUR GRACIOUS ASSISTANCE. OUR 
DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUES IN THIS BUSINESS TRANSACTION INCLUDE THE 
SITTING VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, RICHARD CHENEY, 
WHO IS AN ORIGINAL PARTNER IN THE IRAQ VENTURE AND FORMER HEAD OF THE 
ALLIBURTON OIL COMPANY, AND CONDOLEEZA RICE, WHOSE PROFESSIONAL 
DEDICATION TO THE VENTURE WAS DEMONSTRATED IN THE NAMING OF A CHEVRON 
OIL TANKER AFTER HER.


I WOULD BESEECH YOU TO TRANSFER A SUM EQUALING TEN TO TWENTY-FIVE 
PERCENT (10-25 %) OF YOUR YEARLY INCOME TO OUR ACCOUNT TO AID IN THIS 
IMPORTANT VENTURE. THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE OF THE UNITED STATES OF 
AMERICA WILL FUNCTION AS OUR TRUSTED INTERMEDIARY. I PROPOSE THAT YOU 
MAKE THIS TRANSFER BEFORE THE FIFTEENTH (15TH) OF THE MONTH OF APRIL.


I KNOW THAT A TRANSACTION OF THIS MAGNITUDE WOULD MAKE ANYONE 
APPREHENSIVE AND WORRIED. BUT I AM ASSURING YOU THAT ALL WILL BE WELL AT 
THE END OF THE DAY. A BOLD STEP TAKEN SHALL NOT BE REGRETTED, I ASSURE 
YOU. PLEASE DO BE INFORMED THAT THIS BUSINESS TRANSACTION IS 100% LEGAL. 
IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO CO-OPERATE IN THIS TRANSACTION, PLEASE CONTACT OUR 
INTERMEDIARY REPRESENTATIVES TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE MATTER.

I PRAY THAT YOU UNDERSTAND OUR PLIGHT. MY FAMILY AND OUR COLLEAGUES WILL 
BE FOREVER GRATEFUL. PLEASE REPLY IN STRICT CONFIDENCE TO THE CONTACT 
NUMBERS BELOW.

SINCERELY WITH WARM REGARDS,

GEORGE WALKER BUSH


Switchboard: 202.456.1414 Comments: 202.456.1111 Fax: 202.456.2461 Email:
president@whitehouse.gov --


From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan 29 07:40:43 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030129154043.GT14319@zork.net>

ha ha savory

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From liiwi at iki.fi  Wed Jan 29 09:24:15 2003
From: liiwi at iki.fi (Jaakko Niemi)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Future is accelerated in colourful boxes
Message-ID: <87adhjhnsw.fsf@jumper.lonesom.pp.fi>

 http://www.datapower.com/products/xa35.html

                --j


From neale at woozle.org  Wed Jan 29 10:19:36 2003
From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Future is accelerated in colourful boxes
In-Reply-To: <87adhjhnsw.fsf@jumper.lonesom.pp.fi> (Jaakko Niemi's message
 of "Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:24:15 +0200")
References: <87adhjhnsw.fsf@jumper.lonesom.pp.fi>
Message-ID: <w53fzrb24zr.fsf@woozle.org>

Jaakko Niemi <liiwi@iki.fi> writes:

>  http://www.datapower.com/products/xa35.html

  Q: Which XML and XSLT processors does the XA35 use? Doesn't the XA35
  use open-source or third-party software?

  Absolutely not! The XA35 is purpose-built to process XML and XSLT using
  our own advanced compiler technologies. DataPower owns all of its
  patent-pending intellectual property and is not restricted by the
  development schedules of third parties.

That's a relief.  This way they'll have noone to blame but themselves
when the company tanks.

Neale


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Wed Jan 29 11:29:35 2003
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ASSISTANCE
In-Reply-To: <20030129110333.GA30345@inauspicious.org>
References: <20030129110333.GA30345@inauspicious.org>
Message-ID: <20030129192935.GC15439@nbsdubar>

On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:03:33AM +0000, Gary Benson wrote:

> IMMEDIATE ATTENTION NEEDED:

Did someone say "inauspicious?"

-- 
Bob Bernstein

No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. 


From nick at zork.net  Wed Jan 29 14:34:06 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:56 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] MetLife
Message-ID: <20030129223405.GW14319@zork.net>

GIF-using BASTARDS!

----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm@petting-zoo.net> -----
Forwarded-by: Nev Dull <nev@sleepycat.com>
Forwarded-by: Don Whiteside <whiteside@acm.org>


"Security is overrated.  I leave my secureID laying on my desk.
My boss always gives me s*** about it.  Like anyone would wanna
hack our cache of Snoopy GIFs".
	-- A MetLife IT employee who shall remain anonymous


----- End forwarded message -----


From schoen at loyalty.org  Wed Jan 29 21:30:52 2003
From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] EFF and the World Summit on the Information Society
In-Reply-To: <87u1fsqzzj.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <87u1fsqzzj.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20030130053052.GA15412@zork.net>

Mister Bad writes:

> Seth,
> 
> Do you know if the Electronic Freedom Foundation is participating at
> all in the World Summit on the Information Society?
> 
>     http://www.itu.int/wsis/
> 
> It seems to me that when governments get together to debate the future
> of information, advocates of freedom should probably be present.

We didn't get accredited for PrepCom-2.  We could try to get
accredited for PrepCom-3 if you want, but it's not quite clear to me
that we can afford to go.  These international affairs (like ICANN,
doncha know) are awfully expensive.

http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/000801

"places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant"

-- 
Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | Reading is a right, not a feature!
     http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/   |                 -- Kathryn Myronuk
     http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/     |


From helpdesk at fuck-everything.org  Wed Jan 29 23:38:29 2003
From: helpdesk at fuck-everything.org (Reference Desk)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [Fwd: FC: ACT's Jonathan Zuck: What's wrong with U.S. backing
 closed source?]
Message-ID: <1043912308.24431.14620.camel@dante>

Indexed under: The Vast Open Source Conspiracy

-----Forwarded Message-----

From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
To: politech@politechbot.com
Cc: jzuck@actonline.org
Subject: FC: ACT's Jonathan Zuck: What's wrong with U.S. backing closed source?
Date: 30 Jan 2003 01:47:59 -0500

Forwarded with permission. I believe Jonathan's group is generally allied 
with these folks on this issue:
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-975578.html

Previous Politech message:
http://www.politechbot.com/p-04377.html

-Declan

---

Subject: OSS, Bush, Asia
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:00:14 -0500
From: "Jonathan Zuck" <jzuck@actonline.org>
To: <declan@well.com>

Hey, since when is objecting to language of support the same as opposed? 
What the hell is wrong with wanting to support your domestic software 
industry EVEN including Microsoft and tens of thousands others. It s not 
like all of other proprietary software firms are big fans of OSS mandates 
in governments here and abroad.  We need to make a decision as a society if 
we are truly out to destroy the software industry and are prepared for the 
consequences. Who s going to put food on the table of the OSS developer if 
not the commercial software companies that employ them?




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From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan 30 08:44:55 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030130164455.GL14319@zork.net>

IN A CABIN, IN A CANYON...

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From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan 30 10:15:49 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20030130181549.GN14319@zork.net>

Nice try.

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CrackMonkey.



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From nick at zork.net  Thu Jan 30 10:38:52 2003
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Mister Bad Fan Watch
Message-ID: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net>

http://lists.fifthvision.net/pipermail/arch-users/2003-January/023238.html

Kick his ass!


From unknown at panax.com  Fri Jan 31 03:14:40 2003
From: unknown at panax.com (Patrick McFarland)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fortune to the rescue!
In-Reply-To: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net>
References: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030131111440.GA2242@panax.com>

Fortune's Rules for Memo Wars: #3

The proper time for a vicious ad hominem attack is when you have no logical
recourse.  If you have been arguing a point with a person or persons for
30 odd weeks, and an memo comes across that logically tears down the
final shred of evidence that you thought you had, that is the time to call
the author of that memo:
        1: a mindless twit who attacks other people's beliefs for no reason.
        2: an egotistical flaming typical wombat aggie melon-humping
           cheese-whizzing nanosexual subuseless clamsucker whose memos
           are apparently sneezed onto his/her terminal.
        3: something unpleasant.
The OTHER proper time for an ad hominem attack is immediately after someone
has posted something you don't understand.  Given the current state of modern
electronic communications technology your inability to comprehend the meaning
of an memo constitutes a violation of western moral tradition on the part of
the author of that memo, and the author should be taken to task publicly via
a series of really nasty, name-calling oriented memos.

-- 
Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd 
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989


From tomduffy at dslextreme.com  Fri Jan 31 12:40:07 2003
From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fortune to the rescue!
In-Reply-To: <20030131111440.GA2242@panax.com>
References: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net> <20030131111440.GA2242@panax.com>
Message-ID: <1044045607.1836.8.camel@biznatch>

On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 03:14, Patrick McFarland wrote:
> References: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net>
> In-Reply-To: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net>
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i

You fucking turd...don't hit Reply if you want to start a new thread...

-tduffy

-- 
"[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous
about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often
lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be
self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors
and communities."
    -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research



From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Fri Jan 31 12:48:53 2003
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fortune to the rescue!
In-Reply-To: <1044045607.1836.8.camel@biznatch>
References: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net> <20030131111440.GA2242@panax.com> <1044045607.1836.8.camel@biznatch>
Message-ID: <20030131204853.GB14319@zork.net>

begin  Tom Duffy  quotation:
> On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 03:14, Patrick McFarland wrote:
> > References: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net>
> > In-Reply-To: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net>
> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i
> 
> You fucking turd...don't hit Reply if you want to start a new
> thread...

	He was referring (albeit somewhat indirectly) to the flamewar
referenced by the URL mentioned in the message with the above ID.

	Now it's his turn to fling an ad hominem at you.


From unknown at panax.com  Fri Jan 31 14:51:29 2003
From: unknown at panax.com (Patrick McFarland)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fortune to the rescue!
In-Reply-To: <20030131204853.GB14319@zork.net>
References: <20030130183852.GR14319@zork.net> <20030131111440.GA2242@panax.com> <1044045607.1836.8.camel@biznatch> <20030131204853.GB14319@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030131225129.GA564@panax.com>

On 31-Jan-2003, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
> 	He was referring (albeit somewhat indirectly) to the flamewar
> referenced by the URL mentioned in the message with the above ID.
> 
> 	Now it's his turn to fling an ad hominem at you.

Uh, Tom is a mindless twit. Why would I bother insulting him? A waste of my
time, if you ask me.

-- 
Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd 
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989


From sam at dasbistro.com  Fri Jan 31 17:34:36 2003
From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:57 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ASSISTANCE
In-Reply-To: <20030129110333.GA30345@inauspicious.org>
References: <20030129110333.GA30345@inauspicious.org>
Message-ID: <20030201013436.GA19464@dasbistro.com>

On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:03:33AM +0000, Gary Benson wrote:
> IMMEDIATE ATTENTION NEEDED:
> 
> HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL
> 
> FROM: GEORGE WALKER BUSH
> DEAR SIR / MADAM,
> 
> ...

Dude that is so last week on Pigdog.

http://www.pigdog.org/auto/BroadView/shortcolumn/2785.html

-- 
Sam Phillips <sam@dasbistro.com>             http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam
Das Bistro Heavy Industries                       Histogram Valley, Nevada