From aaronl at vitelus.com Tue Apr 1 02:21:50 2003 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:18 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [as-req'd] new kraftwerk album 99% done In-Reply-To: <20030401024858.GA2960@relst8.net> References: <20030401024858.GA2960@relst8.net> Message-ID: <20030401102150.GA18913@vitelus.com> On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 09:48:58PM -0500, Loki Ambrodious von Esling wrote: > http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/interview_43.php Too bad Kraftwerk stopped using cool vintage instruments and now only uses that silly German synth with the "Kraftwerk" presets. From brian at 8ball.wox.org Tue Apr 1 05:24:19 2003 From: brian at 8ball.wox.org (Brian Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day! Message-ID: <20030401132419.GA28858@8ball.wox.org> In honor of Mailman Day, here's a joke: One day a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel attached to his crotch. So the bartender says to him, "You know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?" And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!" From sam at dasbistro.com Tue Apr 1 08:52:29 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030331191140.GK13772@8ball.wox.org> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> <20030331050023.GJ13772@8ball.wox.org> <20030331183715.GD17666@dasbistro.com> <20030331191140.GK13772@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030401165229.GE5420@dasbistro.com> On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 01:11:40PM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > commence Sam Phillips quotation: > > We must watch XENU so that we know if he is hoarding WMD. > > Free Xenu! He's done his time! The only way we will do that is if he discloses the location of all of the thetans that were last recorded in his possession. But seriously Xenu's a great guy. We had martinis last summer in the Hamptons together. Man that alien sure can throw back a drink. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Apr 5 05:19:11 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] forget the giant squid -- bring on the colossal squid Message-ID: <200304050819.11125.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/news-208908320030403-160434.html A rare and dangerous squid with eyes the size of dinner plates and scores of razor-sharp hooks to snag its prey has been caught by fishermen in the Ross Sea in Antarctica, according to a Local 6 News report. The half-grown female colossal squid is only the second intact example of the monster cephalopod known to have been found, said marine biologist Steve O'Shea of New Zealand's national museum on Thursday. A trawler caught the 330-lb squid about 2,200 miles south of Wellington. The squid was dead when it was hauled into the trawler and the remains are now in the New Zealand national museum. The body of the colossal squid is much bigger than the giant squid, which can weigh up 2,000 lbs when fully grown. Comparisons are difficult because of the colossal squid's hostile environment and rarity. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Apr 5 10:56:04 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] forget the giant squid -- bring on the colossal squid In-Reply-To: <200304050819.11125.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200304050819.11125.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030405185604.GA16344@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 08:19:11AM -0500, dep wrote: > The body of the colossal squid is much bigger than the giant squid, > which can weigh up 2,000 lbs when fully grown. Hmmm....this article seems to have failed to ELICIT any interest here on CM. Perhaps a reference to the size of the animal's PENIS might have roused the resident smart young set to comment? But no never mind that. What's the deal with all this "My Big Fat Greek..." whatever? Surely this is a new high in MARKETING MADNESS, yes? It clearly surpasses the recent MARKETING MADNESS high set by using the term "poetry" in the phrase "Def Poetry Jam," wouldn't you ALL AGREE?. -- Bob Bernstein From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Sat Apr 5 19:14:09 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ReiserFS Message-ID: <200304060314.h363E8086509@mail0.rawbw.com> I was installing a new hard drive in my box (they had 75 Gb Fujitsu scsi drives on sale at Central), and just for the hell of it I decided to run reiser on it. Among other things, mkreiserfs spits out the message: Continuing core development of version 3 is mostly paid for by Hans Reiser from money made selling licenses in addition to the GPL to companies who don't want it known that they use ReiserFS as a foundation for their proprietary product. And my lawyer asked 'People pay you money for this?'. Yup. Hee Hee. Life is good. From dsaklad at gnu.org Sun Apr 6 17:32:05 2003 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] How to decode and identify more information about web sites. Message-ID: Kind of like Spam Combat http://combat.uxn.com is used in decoding and identifying more information about headers, are there other resources that can be used in decoding and identifying more information about web sites like the links at http://www.stormloader.com/saklad and at http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?LoginName=dsalad by the person, people using a registration with the varient spelling?... dsalad From carlos at laviola.org Sun Apr 6 19:57:37 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030407025737.GA20403@laviola.org> On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 08:32:05PM -0400, Don Saklad wrote: > Kind of like Spam Combat http://combat.uxn.com is used in decoding and > identifying more information about headers, are there other resources > that can be used in decoding and identifying more information about > web sites like the links at http://www.stormloader.com/saklad and at > http://mars.GuestPage.com/home/view.rc?LoginName=dsalad > by the person, people using a registration with the varient spelling?... dsalad What is it that you want to decode or discover about these domains? About all I can think of is conducting a whois search on them and doing a bit of webstalking on the creators of the aforementioned websites. Good luck, -- Carlos Laviola From crackmonkey at slackerbit.ch Sun Apr 6 23:46:48 2003 From: crackmonkey at slackerbit.ch (crackmonkey@slackerbit.ch) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] forget the giant squid -- bring on the colossal squid In-Reply-To: <20030405185604.GA16344@localhost.localdomain> References: <200304050819.11125.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030405185604.GA16344@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030407064648.GA14867@blade.drrack.intern> On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 01:56:04PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Hmmm....this article seems to have failed to ELICIT any interest here > on CM. Perhaps a reference to the size of the animal's PENIS might > have roused the resident smart young set to comment? Quote from the article: "The half-grown female colossal squid" Well, maybe you know those other females. But it might be new niche: Colossal She-Male Tentacle Porn! From dsaklad at gnu.org Mon Apr 7 04:05:40 2003 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. Message-ID: Exactly what does it mean?... webstalking From dsaklad at gnu.org Mon Apr 7 04:29:44 2003 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] How to decode and identify more information about web sites. Message-ID: Thank you for your interest Carlos Laviola! ...more information about the source would be of interest ! From dsaklad at gnu.org Mon Apr 7 09:14:43 2003 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Lack of response of the Boston Public Library. Message-ID: April 3, 2003 SPR03/075 I have received your petition appealing the lack of response of the Boston Public Library (Library) to your public records request. See GL c66 s10b 2000 ed. Supervisor of Public Records has authority to resolve public records appeals [ http://www.state.ma.us/sec/pre/prelaw/lawlaw.htm ] See also 950CMR 32.08(2) appeal process. [ http://www.state.ma.us/sec/pre/prelaw/law950.htm ] Specifically, you requested a copy of the directory of links at http://www.bpl.org/mbln In a March 18, 2003 telephone conversation, Connie Dudgeon, Administrative Assistant for the Boston Region, [ http://www.bpl.org/brls/about.html ] stated that the Library does not have any records in its custody which are responsive to your request. Ms. Dudgeon searched the library computer network and could not find a "mbln" page or any directory of links. It is my understanding that a "mbln" folder may have been created for vendors when the library sought proposals for an online catalog service. Ms. Dudgeon stated that the online catalog service has been created and therefore a "mbln" page would no longer exist. A record holder's duty to comply with requests for information extends only to those records which exist and are in his custody. GL c4 s7(26) 2000 ed. defining "public records" as those non-exempt materials made or received by a public employee see also 950CMR 32.03 defining "custodian" as the public employee with routine access to or control of public records Moreover, there is no obligation to create a record in response to a public records request. GL c66 s10a 2000 ed. 32 Op. Att'y Gen. 157, 165 May 18 1977 There is a presumption that public officials perform their public duties in an honest and impartial manner. Lapointe v. License Bd. of Worcester 389 Mass. 454, 459 (1983) [ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Lapointe+License+Worcester+389&btnG=Google+Search ] see also Konover Mgt. Corp. v. Planning Bd. of Auburn 32 Mass. App. Ct. 319, 326 (1992) presuming that the public officials will perform honestly and impartially. [ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Konover+Planning+Auburn+32&btnG=Google+Search ] Accordingly, as the Library does not have any records in its custody which are responsive to your request, I must consider this administrative appeal closed. Very truly yours, KerryAnne Kilcoyne Staff Attorney cc: Connie Dudgeon Ense Petit Placidam Sub Libertate Qvietem [ By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty. -Algernon Sydney image: coat of arms http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/2-1.htm ] The Commonwealth of Massachusetts William Francis Galvin, Secretary of the Commonwealth Public Records Division Alan N. Cote Supervisor of Records One Ashburton Place 17th Floor Boston Massachusetts 02108 617-727-2832 Fax 617-727-5914 http://www.state.ma.us/sec/pre From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Apr 7 09:37:38 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Lack of response of the Boston Public Library. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030407163738.GF26116@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 12:14:43PM -0400, Don Saklad wrote: > Ense Petit Placidam Sub Libertate Qvietem > By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty. -Algernon Sydney Has a nice ring to it. Perhaps this could be emblazoned on the new marketing logo for BIA? -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 7 16:06:52 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] forget the giant squid -- bring on the colossal squid In-Reply-To: <20030407064648.GA14867@blade.drrack.intern> References: <200304050819.11125.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030405185604.GA16344@localhost.localdomain> <20030407064648.GA14867@blade.drrack.intern> Message-ID: <20030407230652.GG13588@zork.net> begin crackmonkey@slackerbit.ch quotation: > But it might be new niche: Colossal She-Male Tentacle Porn! new? -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 7 16:07:37 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030407230737.GH13588@zork.net> begin Don Saklad quotation: > Exactly what does it mean?... webstalking This, mostly: http://www.google.com/search?q=Don+Saklad -- end From nick at zork.net Mon Apr 7 18:58:59 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] THE END TIMES APPROACH Message-ID: <20030408015859.GW13588@zork.net> http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate/!ctvShows/Shows/Evening/pent_canadianidol.html Yes, you read correctly. That URL says "Canadian Idol". -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Apr 7 19:05:11 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: <20030407230737.GH13588@zork.net> References: <20030407230737.GH13588@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030408020511.GD26551@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 04:07:37PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > This, mostly: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Don+Saklad That has - how shall I say it? - a tone that seems somewhat unnecessarily harsh, wouldn't you agree? I mean, LORD KNOWS ianal, so the LAST thing I would care to do would be to PASS JUDGEMENT on your simian highness's POV, of course. So, we all NEED to hear YOUR side of the story, and right quick! -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Mon Apr 7 19:09:08 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] THE END TIMES APPROACH In-Reply-To: <20030408015859.GW13588@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030407230811.P17396-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate/!ctvShows/Shows/Evening/pent_canadianidol.html > > Yes, you read correctly. That URL says "Canadian Idol". > There was a Canadian "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". Who cares what you think? From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 7 19:14:07 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] THE END TIMES APPROACH In-Reply-To: <20030407230811.P17396-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030408015859.GW13588@zork.net> <20030407230811.P17396-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030408021407.GY13588@zork.net> begin Nikolai Krylenko quotation: > > Yes, you read correctly. That URL says "Canadian Idol". > > There was a Canadian "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". Who cares > what you think? I'm all for ad hominem, but please remember that the subject under discussion is your own idolatry. -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 7 19:17:16 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: <20030408020511.GD26551@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030407230737.GH13588@zork.net> <20030408020511.GD26551@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030408021716.GZ13588@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 04:07:37PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > This, mostly: > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Don+Saklad > > That has - how shall I say it? - a tone that seems somewhat > unnecessarily harsh, wouldn't you agree? I mean, LORD KNOWS ianal, so > the LAST thing I would care to do would be to PASS JUDGEMENT on your > simian highness's POV, of course. So, we all NEED to hear YOUR side of > the story, and right quick! I hadn't actually followed that link (I type maps.yahoo.com and google.com URLs from memory of their structure), so I didn't realize that it mostly resulted in "Why D0n 5@Kl@d suxx0rz!!!&^!%" pages. Page 3 is actually his zork.net page, which makes me beam with pride. I mearly meant to imply that "webstalking" refers to doing net searches on someone and trying to learn about someone by reading what they write. -- end From necco at relst8.net Mon Apr 7 18:22:37 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] THE END TIMES APPROACH In-Reply-To: <20030408015859.GW13588@zork.net> References: <20030408015859.GW13588@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030408012237.GA1504@relst8.net> On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 06:58:59PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate/!ctvShows/Shows/Evening/pent_canadianidol.html > > Yes, you read correctly. That URL says "Canadian Idol". you stole my link... which i stole from fark... theives of theives make... something something. Well, if that's not a quote it should be one... -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net | From radix42 at cox.net Mon Apr 7 19:32:30 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030407193209.00b613b8@pop.west.cox.net> At 04:07 PM 4/7/2003, you wrote: >begin Don Saklad quotation: > > Exactly what does it mean?... webstalking > >This, mostly: > >http://www.google.com/search?q=Don+Saklad WOW, that's, I'm wordless. Seems more like a "Problematical use of time and oxygen." Now the only question is, does having a gnu.org email address cause one to become a complete nutter, or is it awarded after the fact to mark the special occasion? From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Apr 7 19:43:37 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: <20030408021716.GZ13588@zork.net> References: <20030407230737.GH13588@zork.net> <20030408020511.GD26551@localhost.localdomain> <20030408021716.GZ13588@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030408024337.GA27092@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 07:17:16PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > ...so I didn't realize that it mostly resulted in "Why D0n 5@Kl@d > suxx0rz!!!&^!%" pages. I didn't follow the link either, but I knew it would take one to the anti-Don forces. > Page 3 is actually his zork.net page, which makes me beam with pride. As well you should!!! Viva Don! -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From bker at yage.net Tue Apr 8 08:52:47 2003 From: bker at yage.net (bker@yage.net) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030407193209.00b613b8@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030407193209.00b613b8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030408155247.GA1204@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 07:32:30PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > ... > Now the only question is, does having a gnu.org email address cause > one to become a complete nutter, or is it awarded after the fact to > mark the special occasion? Yeah. He can't thread correctly either. -- "The state can't give you free speech, and the state can't take it away. You're born with it, like your eyes, like your ears. Freedom is something you assume, then you wait for someone to try to take it away. The degree to which you resist is the degree to which you are free..." -- Utah Phillips From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Tue Apr 8 09:18:03 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Mental Health Action For Free Software In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030407193209.00b613b8@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030407193209.00b613b8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030408161803.GB28323@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 07:32:30PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > ...does having a gnu.org email address cause one to become a complete > nutter, or is it awarded after the fact to mark the special occasion? Um...not to put too fine a point on't, but what does having a cox.net email address cause one to become? Mail each reply separately, enclosing a fairly new five dollar bill, to: Mental Health Action For Free Software PO Box 17312 Esmond, RI 02917-0704 hth -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Tue Apr 8 11:34:15 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: <20030408021716.GZ13588@zork.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > I type maps.yahoo.com and google.com URLs from memory of their > structure) you are so fucking cool. can I touch you? -- "There was never a good war or a bad peace." --Ben Franklin From nick at zork.net Tue Apr 8 13:08:45 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [siduri@pigdog.org: [pigdog] Free Mike Hawash!] Message-ID: <20030408200845.GC2241@zork.net> Jesux. ----- Forwarded message from Siduri ----- ...and everybody else like him. http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,58382,00.html Sid. -- Know Your Exits _______________________________________________ pigdog mailing list pigdog@pighaven.org http://mail.pighaven.org/mailman/listinfo/pigdog ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From carlos at laviola.org Tue Apr 8 14:47:00 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: References: <20030408021716.GZ13588@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030408214700.GA8388@laviola.org> On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:34:15AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > > I type maps.yahoo.com and google.com URLs from memory of their > > structure) > > you are so fucking cool. can I touch you? 5 dollars to touch the memory man! come and see the memory man! 5 dollars!! -- Carlos Laviola From apost at recalcitrant.org Tue Apr 8 15:52:23 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [siduri@pigdog.org: [pigdog] Free Mike Hawash!] In-Reply-To: <20030408200845.GC2241@zork.net> References: <20030408200845.GC2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030408225223.GV7367@recalcitrant.org> * Nick Moffitt (nick@zork.net) [030408 13:15]: > ----- Forwarded message from Siduri ----- > > ...and everybody else like him. > > http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,58382,00.html Later in the order Judge Jones said, "I conclude by clear and convincing evidence that the material witness must be detained, but not indefinitely." See, the judge is being nice and all! From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Tue Apr 8 20:06:45 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? Message-ID: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> Why is this not marked as spam by bogofilter? I thought I set the cut-off to 0.54. In /usr/local/etc/bogofilter.cf, I have this: #### ALGORITHM # # specify scoring algorithm #algorithm=graham algorithm=robinson #algorithm=fisher and this: #### CUTOFF Values # # for Graham and Robinson: # only spam_cutoff is needed. # # for Fisher: # both ham_cutoff and spam_cutoff are allowed. # setting ham_cutoff to a non-zero value will # enable tristate results (Yes/No/Unsure). # spam_cutoff = 0.90 # for graham spam_cutoff = 0.54 # for robinson and I'm doing this in procmail: :0fw | bogofilter -u -e -p wtf? ----- Forwarded message from rami@global.net.pk ----- From: "" To: poobah@ruptured-duck.com Subject: Try us out. Date: Wed, 09 Apr 03 11:07:17 GMT X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.585298, version=0.11.1.6

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ckr idfndg xurzuup va zvqu kbnkggzinmdqjbo ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From neale at woozle.org Wed Apr 9 08:23:15 2003 From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:06:45 -0400") References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Bob Bernstein writes: > Why is this not marked as spam by bogofilter? I thought I set the > cut-off to 0.54. Well, golly Bob, WHAT DID IT SCORE?! If your message scores under your cut-off, it won't be marked as spam. You stinky idiot. > From: "" > Subject: Try us out. > To: poobah@ruptured-duck.com > Date: Wed, 09 Apr 03 11:07:17 GMT > >

> Are you starting to show signs of aging? >

> Could you afford to lose a little weight? >

> As seen on TV. > This is the product everyone is talking about. >

> PUSH THIS >

> ckr idfndg xurzuup va zvqu kbnkggzinmdqjbo -- If you continue to eat meat, then the carnivores have already won. -- #2 of Berkeley From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 08:58:22 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 08:23:15AM -0700, Neale Pickett wrote: > > Why is this not marked as spam by bogofilter? I thought I set the > > cut-off to 0.54. > > Well, golly Bob, WHAT DID IT SCORE?! As noted - ahem - in my original post: X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.585298, version=0.11.1.6 -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From neale at woozle.org Wed Apr 9 09:42:23 2003 From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:58:22 -0400") References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Bob Bernstein writes: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 08:23:15AM -0700, Neale Pickett wrote: > >> Well, golly Bob, WHAT DID IT SCORE?! > > As noted - ahem - in my original post: > > X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.585298, version=0.11.1.6 Oh my, Gnus got the better of me. I guess the laugh's on me. Well, I don't know why that didn't score as spam. Do you get the same results if you pipe it in to bogofilter again? Neale From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 10:01:52 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 09:42:23AM -0700, Neale Pickett wrote: > Well, I don't know why that didn't score as spam. Do you get the same > results if you pipe it in to bogofilter again? Not the same spamicity, but then my wordlists are changing on the fly as new mail comes in, yes? The damn thing just doesn't think *anything* is spam, that is, based on the spamicity. If I filter it right from mutt: X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.623699, version=0.11.1.6 int cnt prob spamicity histogram 0.00 1 0.000415 0.000055 # 0.10 1 0.199141 0.023955 # 0.20 1 0.204423 0.041051 # 0.30 2 0.335875 0.091800 ## 0.40 8 0.439139 0.239820 ######## 0.50 39 0.522962 0.445380 ####################################### 0.60 30 0.629355 0.517663 ############################## 0.70 21 0.743113 0.563987 ##################### 0.80 13 0.856022 0.595715 ############# 0.90 9 0.950748 0.623699 ######### -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Wed Apr 9 11:13:54 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1049912034.2002.97.camel@biznatch> On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 10:01, Bob Bernstein wrote: > The damn thing just doesn't think > *anything* is spam It is because you are a faggo pinko commie anti-war hippie. Let me help you find the light: http://www.totalobscurity.com/mind/flagstore/ -tduffy -- .-"|"-. The footprint of the .' | `. American Chicken. .' | `. | | | | /|\ | `. / | \ .' `./ | \.' `-.|.-' From dave at zork.net Wed Apr 9 12:31:03 2003 From: dave at zork.net (Dave Barry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> unsubscibe bogofilter-l -- When you grow up surrounded by willful ignorance, you find that mercy has its own country, and it's big and round. --Ani DiFranco From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 12:42:55 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <1049912034.2002.97.camel@biznatch> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <1049912034.2002.97.camel@biznatch> Message-ID: <20030409194255.GD1144@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 11:13:54AM -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > It is because you are a faggo pinko commie anti-war hippie. Let me help > you find the light: Tom, get back on your meds. If not for us, then do it for the children. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN TOM? -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 12:47:13 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:31:03PM -0700, Dave Barry wrote: > unsubscibe bogofilter-l So, I take it that: 1. You don't know anything about bogofilter. And, 2. You have nothing of your own of any significance to discuss. 3. Out of sheer boredom and absence of A LIFE, you have chosen to make an adolescent comment on my question. Now tell me; I got THEM ALL RIGHT, didn't I? But never mind all that; let's talk about Duffy! He really seems to have gone 'round the bleepin' bend, don't you think? -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From dave at zork.net Wed Apr 9 13:00:51 2003 From: dave at zork.net (Dave Barry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> Quothe Bob Bernstein , on Wed, Apr 09, 2003: > So, I take it that: > > 1. You don't know anything about bogofilter. And, Wrong. I know my setup works, and yours doesn't. > > 2. You have nothing of your own of any significance to discuss. Since when does this list tolerate significance or discussion? > > 3. Out of sheer boredom and absence of A LIFE, you have chosen to > make an adolescent comment on my question. Wrong again Bernstein. I made an adolescent comment because I have a life that I felt would be enriched by insulting you. > > Now tell me; I got THEM ALL RIGHT, didn't I? No, but you are entertaining in a puppet show kind of way. > > But never mind all that; let's talk about Duffy! He really seems to > have gone 'round the bleepin' bend, don't you think? > GTFOML -- When you grow up surrounded by willful ignorance, you find that mercy has its own country, and it's big and round. --Ani DiFranco From nick at zork.net Wed Apr 9 13:26:09 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [cm@mihalis.net: Re: [Tron] Nick Moffit] Message-ID: <20030409202609.GH2241@zork.net> Ha ha. I started cleaning out my mailboxes and replying to a few lists I had fallen silent on. I even specifically fixed the problem where my messages would b0rk digests (see my .signature). I, of course, have been enjoying the attention and spending my time rapidly and violently changing the subject. Trolling can be fun! ----- Forwarded message from Chris Morgan ----- I unsubscribed. It's no longer a list I can tolerate. As far as I'm concerned keep up with the "terrorism" if the alternative is a world run by OE-toting morons. Chris -- Chris Morgan http://www.mihalis.net Temp sig. - Enquire within ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From nick at zork.net Wed Apr 9 13:28:11 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [guygg@3gcs.com: Tron list ban] Message-ID: <20030409202811.GI2241@zork.net> OooOOOoooOH! POLICY! Well then! ----- Forwarded message from "Guy G. Gordon" ----- I'm sorry to say that it has come time for me to ban your address from the Tron Yahoo Group list. I really didn't want to have to do this. It's the first time I've had to on this list, but it is certainly time. I know there are two sides to every argument, but this argument is just getting way too frequent and way too old to deal with anymore. It's becoming harder and harder to keep the Tron list a happy place with this stuff going on. Every time this argument comes up, more and more members end up unsubscribing from the list, which is a shame. A new policy is going to go into effect on this list about banning people who constantly inconvenience the other list members and disrupt the friendly atmosphere of the list on a regular basis. If a new address suddenly shows up and starts this same stuff, it will also be banned accordingly. Sorry to have to do this, - Guy ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 13:29:35 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:00:51PM -0700, Dave Barry wrote: > Wrong. I know my setup works, and yours doesn't. That's all you know? Sheeit, I could have guessed as much. > Since when does this list tolerate significance or discussion? It's a trend; haven't you noticed? We're almost at THE TIPPING POINT! > Wrong again Bernstein. I made an adolescent comment because I have a > life that I felt would be enriched by insulting you. Now there's a sad comment on the quality of what you understand to be your "life!" Ha ha. > No, but you are entertaining in a puppet show kind of way. That's it? That's all you got for me today? Sheeit, take your place in line behind Duffy and all the other ineffectual ambulatory psychotics. > GTFOML Oh please; btdt. It's NOT your fucking list, and if it was I'd have decamped long ago! -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From squinky at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 13:41:49 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 04:29:35PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > It's a trend; haven't you noticed? We're almost at THE TIPPING POINT! I like to CAPITALIZE random words because it makes it LOOK like I am getting EXCITED over what I am SAYING. Isn't that CLEVER? -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From jason at sopko.net Wed Apr 9 13:57:35 2003 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:19 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <3E94893F.4090509@sopko.net> Not Erik wrote: > I like to CAPITALIZE random words because it makes it LOOK like I am > getting EXCITED over what I am SAYING. Isn't that CLEVER? That did not appear to be randomized at all. Wittiness rating: -3 ///Jason From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 13:58:28 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:41:49PM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > I like to CAPITALIZE random words because it makes it LOOK like I am > getting EXCITED over what I am SAYING. Isn't that CLEVER? I've never tried capitalizing RANDOM WORDS, in fact, additionally, that is, so to speak, I've never even tried randomly capitaling ANY words! So tell me, is it as good as you say it is? -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From squinky at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 14:14:07 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 04:58:28PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:41:49PM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > > I like to CAPITALIZE random words because it makes it LOOK like I am > > getting EXCITED over what I am SAYING. Isn't that CLEVER? > > I've never tried capitalizing RANDOM WORDS, in fact, additionally, > that is, so to speak, I've never even tried randomly capitaling ANY > words! So it happens on accident? > So tell me, is it as good as you say it is? It doesn't seem to help. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 14:16:53 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409211653.GB1459@localhost.localdomain> And The Answer Is: On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:06:45PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Why is this not marked as spam by bogofilter? I thought I set the > cut-off to 0.54. rs /usr/local/etc$ grep -v '^#' bogofilter.cf [snip] spam_cutoff = 0.54 # for robinson ham_cutoff = 0.00 spam_cutoff = 0.95 [snip] Duh. Even Duffy could have figured that one out. Duh. -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 14:34:24 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 02:14:07PM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > > > I like to CAPITALIZE random words because it makes it LOOK like I am > > > getting EXCITED over what I am SAYING. Isn't that CLEVER? Take another look at your example. The words are not "random;" they make up two fairly well-formed sentences that most English speakers can recognize as such. Further, your capitalization is not random either. If you were trying to compose an example of random capitalization, you failed miserably; that, despite the fact that faking randomness is insanely difficult, almost, in fact, as difficult as RECOGNIZING randomness! Now, with all that in mind, just what are you asking me here: > So it happens on accident? The Principle of Sufficient Reason holds that nothing is an "accident." -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Apr 9 14:47:29 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409214729.GA880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Bob Bernstein quotation: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 02:14:07PM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > > > > > I like to CAPITALIZE random words because it makes it LOOK like I am > > > > getting EXCITED over what I am SAYING. Isn't that CLEVER? > > Take another look at your example. The words are not "random;" they > make up two fairly well-formed sentences that most English speakers > can recognize as such. Further, your capitalization is not random > either. If you were trying to compose an example of random > capitalization, you failed miserably; that, despite the fact that > faking randomness is insanely difficult, almost, in fact, as difficult > as RECOGNIZING randomness! It's not his fault your PRNG sucks. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+lJTwjLHcIq3dHxYRAlA1AJ4uRD0PHjcdUAPb/16m9QeDQhZ7sACgwoBZ 3GzkG9iCPDc9g+LuRFvcEiY= =oJuZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dep at linuxandmain.com Wed Apr 9 14:46:15 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <200304091746.15225.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Not All-That-Literate's quote: | So it happens on accident? no, it's by purpose. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From mikael at pawlo.com Wed Apr 9 14:51:38 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day! In-Reply-To: <20030401132419.GA28858@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: At 07.24 -0600 03-04-01, Brian Hicks wrote: >In honor of Mailman Day, here's a joke: >One day a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel >attached to his crotch. So the bartender says to him, >"You know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?" >And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!" I am sick of the pirates! A man walks into a bar. He sees a beautiful, well-dressed woman sitting on a bar stool alone. He walks up to her and says, 'Hi there, how's it going tonight?' She turns to him, looks him straight in the eyes and says, 'I'll screw anybody any time, anywhere, any place? it doesn't matter to me.' The guy raises his eyebrows and says, 'No kidding? What law firm do you work for?' Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From squinky at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 14:56:10 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409215610.GB29431@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 05:34:24PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Take another look at your example. The words are not "random;" they > make up two fairly well-formed sentences that most English speakers > can recognize as such. Further, your capitalization is not random > either. If you were trying to compose an example of random > capitalization, you failed miserably; that, despite the fact that > faking randomness is insanely difficult, almost, in fact, as difficult > as RECOGNIZING randomness! As an American, I am unable to speak intelligently about irony, but it is interesting that your accepted definition of 'random' is chosen as arbitrarily as your capitalization. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From mikael at pawlo.com Wed Apr 9 15:07:32 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Alan Dershowitz In-Reply-To: <200304091746.15225.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: You Americans, you! Professor Alan Dershowitz would trust President Bush with absolute power even in respect of torture (the argument seems to be "we do it anyway, so why shouldn't we do it with added transparency"): http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/03/03/cnna.Dershowitz/index.html "My basic point, though, is we should never under any circumstances allow low-level people to administer torture. If torture is going to be administered as a last resort in the ticking-bomb case, to save enormous numbers of lives, it ought to be done openly, with accountability, with approval by the president of the United States or by a Supreme Court justice." Mikael A low-level man, indeed! .-) _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 9 15:04:20 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409214729.GA880@8ball.wox.org> References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409214729.GA880@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030409220419.GA1587@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 04:47:29PM -0500, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > It's not his fault your PRNG sucks. All PRNGs suck, or hadn't you heard? -- Bob Bernstein M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. A: No it isn't. From mikael at pawlo.com Wed Apr 9 15:12:54 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409215610.GB29431@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: At 14.56 -0700 03-04-09, Not Erik wrote: >On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 05:34:24PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: >> Take another look at your example. The words are not "random;" they >> make up two fairly well-formed sentences that most English speakers >> can recognize as such. Further, your capitalization is not random >> either. If you were trying to compose an example of random >> capitalization, you failed miserably; that, despite the fact that >> faking randomness is insanely difficult, almost, in fact, as difficult >> as RECOGNIZING randomness! >As an American, I am unable to speak intelligently about irony, but it >is interesting that your accepted definition of 'random' is chosen as >arbitrarily as your capitalization. Disucssign het sujbetc fo arndomiaztoni I nhtki ouy ugoth ot be a lto nnfui!er Mkiela _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From adam at flounder.net Wed Apr 9 14:50:19 2003 From: adam at flounder.net (Adam McKenna) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030409215019.GI30477@flounder.net> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 12:12:54AM +0200, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > Disucssign het sujbetc fo arndomiaztoni I nhtki ouy ugoth ot be a lto nnfui!er FLGOTM --Adam From aelmore at interwoven.com Wed Apr 9 13:59:14 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030409205914.GG50211@interwoven.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:41:49PM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > > It's a trend; haven't you noticed? We're almost at THE TIPPING POINT! > > I like to CAPITALIZE random words because it makes it LOOK like I am > getting EXCITED over what I am SAYING. Isn't that CLEVER? What IS this? some kind of *fucking* CANOE? From dep at linuxandmain.com Wed Apr 9 15:51:26 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409205914.GG50211@interwoven.com> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205914.GG50211@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <200304091851.26501.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Andrew Elmore's quote: | What IS this? some kind of *fucking* CANOE? ah. coors light. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From mikael at pawlo.com Wed Apr 9 16:14:28 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409215019.GI30477@flounder.net> References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409213424.GC1459@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: At 14.50 -0700 03-04-09, Adam McKenna wrote: >On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 12:12:54AM +0200, Mikael Pawlo wrote: >> Disucssign het sujbetc fo arndomiaztoni I nhtki ouy ugoth ot be a lto >>nnfui!er >FLGOTM Why are you naked? M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 19:01:46 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030410020145.GI27384@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 11:58:22AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 08:23:15AM -0700, Neale Pickett wrote: > > > > Why is this not marked as spam by bogofilter? I thought I set the > > > cut-off to 0.54. > > > > Well, golly Bob, WHAT DID IT SCORE?! > > As noted - ahem - in my original post: > > > Haha. Most excellent. Something in my config doesn't want me to see your bogofilter pr0n. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 19:11:36 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030410021135.GJ27384@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:41:49PM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > on wed, apr 09, 2003 at 04:29:35pm -0400, bob bernstein wrote: > > it's a trend; haven't you noticed? we're almost at the tipping point! > > i like to capitalize random words because it makes it look like i am > getting excited over what i am saying. isn't that clever? :0 f tr A-Z a-z Hmmm? What was that? -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Apr 9 19:14:37 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410020145.GI27384@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030410020145.GI27384@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030410021437.GA17527@zgp.org> begin Sam Phillips quotation of Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 07:01:46PM -0700: > Haha. Most excellent. Something in my config doesn't want me to see > your bogofilter pr0n. opt-in downline muttrc realty! Lisp marquee font! CVS Lolita! -- Don Marti Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly http://zgp.org/~dmarti demanding DMCA reform is going to get the dmarti@zgp.org injustice of the DMCA in front of the next KG6INA jury. Make noise. It counts. From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 19:15:35 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409205914.GG50211@interwoven.com> References: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205914.GG50211@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <20030410021535.GK27384@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:59:14PM -0700, Andrew Elmore wrote: > What IS this? some kind of *fucking* CANOE? No it's a regular canoe. Fucking in a canoe really isn't as popular as some people would like you to believe. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 19:18:08 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410021437.GA17527@zgp.org> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030410020145.GI27384@dasbistro.com> <20030410021437.GA17527@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20030410021808.GL27384@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 07:14:37PM -0700, Don Marti wrote: > begin Sam Phillips quotation of Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 07:01:46PM -0700: > > Haha. Most excellent. Something in my config doesn't want me to see > > your bogofilter pr0n. > > opt-in downline muttrc realty! Lisp marquee font! CVS Lolita! Don Marti sent me a procmail virus. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 19:24:35 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] forget the giant squid -- bring on the colossal squid In-Reply-To: <20030405185604.GA16344@localhost.localdomain> References: <200304050819.11125.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030405185604.GA16344@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030410022435.GM27384@dasbistro.com> On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 01:56:04PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > But no never mind that. What's the deal with all this "My Big Fat > Greek..." whatever? Surely this is a new high in MARKETING MADNESS, > yes? It clearly surpasses the recent MARKETING MADNESS high set by > using the term "poetry" in the phrase "Def Poetry Jam," wouldn't you > ALL AGREE?. I love Def Pearl Jam. That song where they talk about their homey Jeremy truly rocks with the wiggity wack. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Apr 9 19:26:56 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: How to decode and identify more information about web sites. In-Reply-To: <20030408214700.GA8388@laviola.org> References: <20030408021716.GZ13588@zork.net> <20030408214700.GA8388@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030410022656.GN27384@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 06:47:00PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:34:15AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > > > > I type maps.yahoo.com and google.com URLs from memory of their > > > structure) > > > > you are so fucking cool. can I touch you? > > 5 dollars to touch the memory man! come and see the memory man! 5 > dollars!! How much would it cost to have him tell me where I placed my keys. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Apr 9 19:38:41 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410021535.GK27384@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205914.GG50211@interwoven.com> <20030410021535.GK27384@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030410023841.GB880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Sam Phillips quotation: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:59:14PM -0700, Andrew Elmore wrote: > > What IS this? some kind of *fucking* CANOE? > > No it's a regular canoe. Fucking in a canoe really isn't as popular as > some people would like you to believe. Neither is Molson, for reasons which should be obvious. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+lNkwjLHcIq3dHxYRAjasAKC7X5wRRSnw5Ga8PN9WnUQbx3nV5QCfdUlN YlOImQrXmHXmIyFnf3bG6mY= =URJS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Apr 9 21:25:53 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> begin Not Erik quotation: > So it happens on accident? Fool. "On purpose" or "by accident". Choose ONE. -- end From squinky at dasbistro.com Thu Apr 10 11:04:25 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030410180425.GD29431@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 09:25:53PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Not Erik quotation: > > So it happens on accident? > > Fool. "On purpose" or "by accident". Choose ONE. Yay! I found a trigger phrase! Back up your claim that 'on accident' is incorrect, and I'll stop. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Thu Apr 10 11:22:24 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410180425.GD29431@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <20030410180425.GD29431@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <1049998944.8346.18.camel@biznatch> On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 11:04, Not Erik wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 09:25:53PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > begin Not Erik quotation: > > > So it happens on accident? > > > > Fool. "On purpose" or "by accident". Choose ONE. > > Yay! I found a trigger phrase! And you even found it on accident. -tduffy -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Apr 10 11:40:34 2003 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Apr 2003 21:25:53 PDT." <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> References: <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 21:25:53 PDT, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco said: > Fool. "On purpose" or "by accident". Choose ONE. Fools usually have the same for parents. So the failure to use contraception makes them an accident. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Apr 10 11:42:15 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410180425.GD29431@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <20030410180425.GD29431@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030410184215.GW2241@zork.net> begin Not Erik quotation: > Back up your claim that 'on accident' is incorrect, and I'll stop. http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/onaccident.html -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Apr 10 12:23:26 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20030409170152.GA1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 02:40:34PM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: Way cool bogo stats: > int cnt prob spamicity histogram > 0.00 65 0.000033 0.000013 ################################################ > 0.10 9 0.135989 0.008046 ####### > 0.20 6 0.244125 0.018006 ##### > 0.30 7 0.359323 0.035721 ###### > 0.40 12 0.430889 0.070948 ######### > 0.50 63 0.537822 0.240019 ############################################### > 0.60 0 0.000000 0.000000 > 0.70 2 0.753928 0.246785 ## > 0.80 0 0.000000 0.000000 > 0.90 0 0.000000 0.000000 > Fools usually have the same for parents. So the failure to use > contraception makes them an accident. I don't want to have to say this again: PRINCIPLE OF SUFFICIENT REASON! -- "...the plain-talking nationalist from Texas is still the world's greatest security against a new age of anarchy and terror, made more lethal by weapons of mass destruction and the evil men who would gladly deploy them. The danger is not that Bush won't be educated by Colin Powell into being a more mellifluous and moderate statesman. The danger is that he will." Andrew Sullivan June 3, 2002 From nick at zork.net Thu Apr 10 12:28:42 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [metrix1007@hotmail.com: activex] Message-ID: <20030410192841.GX2241@zork.net> Ha ha Rick. ----- Forwarded message from josh bbb ----- Hi Rick, Just a quick question RE your site. I am trying to see if activex is able to run code without prompting, even when set to prompt. It appears your site used to replace the winnt kernel, was this taking advantage of exploiting a vulnerability, using activex(which would require prompting if set?) or whatnot. Yo'ur current page ejects the cdrom drive using an wmplayer control, is it possible to do anything else malicious? Any links relelvant to activex security would be appreciated. Thanks, Josh ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Thu Apr 10 13:18:16 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > The guy raises his eyebrows and says, 'No kidding? What law firm do you > work for?' and she said "Cooley Godwarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd" -- "There was never a good war or a bad peace." --Ben Franklin From squinky at dasbistro.com Thu Apr 10 13:23:29 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410184215.GW2241@zork.net> References: <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <20030410180425.GD29431@dasbistro.com> <20030410184215.GW2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030410202329.GF29431@dasbistro.com> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 11:42:15AM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Not Erik quotation: > > Back up your claim that 'on accident' is incorrect, and I'll stop. > > http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/onaccident.html I don't mean to sound stubborn, and I believe that it is generally accepted to be the way you present it, but I was hoping to hear why it is considered bad. Not that the little pictures of the mule and the owl are not compelling. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From squinky at dasbistro.com Thu Apr 10 13:27:06 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030410202706.GG29431@dasbistro.com> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:23:26PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > I don't want to have to say this again: PRINCIPLE OF SUFFICIENT REASON! Has anyone alerted you to the fact that you are an insipid twit? -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From nkj at iaminsane.com Thu Apr 10 13:32:52 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [metrix1007@hotmail.com: activex] In-Reply-To: <20030410192841.GX2241@zork.net> References: <20030410192841.GX2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030410203252.GC7319@iaminsane.com> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 12:28:42PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Ha ha Rick. > Shut your blubbering cakehole Rick and get a fucking JOB. - Nick From apost at recalcitrant.org Thu Apr 10 15:54:54 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409193102.GA10883@zork.net> <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030410 12:31]: > -- > "...the plain-talking nationalist from Texas is still the world's > greatest security against a new age of anarchy and terror, made > more lethal by weapons of mass destruction and the evil men who > would gladly deploy them. The danger is not that Bush won't be > educated by Colin Powell into being a more mellifluous and moderate > statesman. The danger is that he will." > > Andrew Sullivan June 3, 2002 Right, since that whole Afghanistan thing has turned out so well. Though strangely, I can't recall the US government offering to demine the place. I'm sure Bush will announce something about that tomorrow. It'll be double-plus good! From squinky at dasbistro.com Thu Apr 10 16:46:49 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:54:54PM -0700, Alan Post wrote: > Though strangely, I can't recall the US government offering to demine > the place. The great thing about third-world countries is that they're self-demining. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Apr 10 17:05:01 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 13.18 -0700 03-04-10, #2 of Berkeley wrote: >> The guy raises his eyebrows and says, 'No kidding? What law firm do you >> work for?' >and she said "Cooley Godwarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd" You almost wasted your talent there! Thanks Google. Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Apr 10 17:07:45 2003 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Ahlgren's Cars Message-ID: Aaah, I just finished a bag of these: http://www.tower.org/kitchen/odd_foods/gummi/images/bilar_front_big.jpg Builds character. For a scientific exploration of the aforesaid, please use instead this URL: http://www.nepotistic.com/ahlgrens/ Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Apr 10 18:53:00 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030409194713.GE1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <20030411015300.GE6009@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:54:54PM -0700, Alan Post wrote: > Right, since that whole Afghanistan thing has turned out so well. > Though strangely, I can't recall the US government offering to demine > the place. I'm sure Bush will announce something about that tomorrow. > It'll be double-plus good! Wheee! Like shootin' fish in a barrel! Badda-bing badda-boom! I knew that sig would draw some pathetic lame comment from of the resident fever-swamp denizens! -- " The danger is not that Bush won't be educated by Colin Powell into being a more mellifluous and moderate statesman. The danger is that he will." Andrew Sullivan June 3, 2002 From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Apr 10 19:13:56 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 04:46:49PM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > The great thing about third-world countries is that they're > self-demining. There is no shortage of competent personnel in the Third World: http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/ -- "The danger is not that Bush won't be educated by Colin Powell into being a more mellifluous and moderate statesman. The danger is that he will." Andrew Sullivan June 3, 2002 From nick at zork.net Thu Apr 10 20:27:56 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20030411032756.GC2241@zork.net> Two deserters and one piece of new meat. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- baast@bellsouth.net has been removed from CrackMonkey. jasonp@uq.net.au has been removed from CrackMonkey. atb@rightwrong.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Thu Apr 10 20:50:01 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20030411032756.GC2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030411034944.X33424-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> I want to dessert, how. On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Two deserters and one piece of new meat. > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > baast@bellsouth.net has been removed from CrackMonkey. > > jasonp@uq.net.au has been removed from CrackMonkey. > > > atb@rightwrong.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > > end > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Thu Apr 10 20:50:32 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20030411032756.GC2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030411035026.H33899-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> I want to desert, how. On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Two deserters and one piece of new meat. > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > baast@bellsouth.net has been removed from CrackMonkey. > > jasonp@uq.net.au has been removed from CrackMonkey. > > > atb@rightwrong.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > > end > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From dave at zork.net Thu Apr 10 20:57:09 2003 From: dave at zork.net (Dave Barry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20030411034944.X33424-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030411032756.GC2241@zork.net> <20030411034944.X33424-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030411035709.GA8866@zork.net> Quothe Nikolai Krylenko , on Fri, Apr 11, 2003: > I want to dessert, how. > Denied. -- When you grow up surrounded by willful ignorance, you find that mercy has its own country, and it's big and round. --Ani DiFranco From dave at zork.net Thu Apr 10 20:57:28 2003 From: dave at zork.net (Dave Barry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20030411035026.H33899-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030411032756.GC2241@zork.net> <20030411035026.H33899-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030411035728.GB8866@zork.net> Quothe Nikolai Krylenko , on Fri, Apr 11, 2003: > I want to desert, how. > Denied. -- When you grow up surrounded by willful ignorance, you find that mercy has its own country, and it's big and round. --Ani DiFranco From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Apr 10 21:07:24 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20030411035026.H33899-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030411032756.GC2241@zork.net> <20030411035026.H33899-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030411040724.GD2241@zork.net> begin Nikolai Krylenko quotation: > I want to desert, how. Jump off at the next port and run until they won't chase you any more. -- end From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Apr 10 21:31:07 2003 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 03:50:01 -0000." <20030411034944.X33424-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030411034944.X33424-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <200304110431.h3B4V7Bm004427@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 03:50:01 -0000, Nikolai Krylenko said: > I want to dessert, how. Lay down on the sideboard and wait. The pastry chef will be along to prepare you shortly. From apost at recalcitrant.org Thu Apr 10 22:11:49 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030410 19:18]: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 04:46:49PM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > > > The great thing about third-world countries is that they're > > self-demining. > > There is no shortage of competent personnel in the Third World: Sure, children looking for firewood getting their limbs blown off. Not that that would concern you . . . . > http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/ Dead. "This is the Server Administrator default page." Your point is? From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Apr 10 22:55:22 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:20 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:11:49PM -0700, Alan Post wrote: > Sure, children looking for firewood getting their limbs blown off. > Not that that would concern you . . . . No, like every Hated Enemy in the history of warfare (the Jews, the Huns, the Republican Party, etc) I detest children, want them to starve, but would really prefer just to EAT THEM ALIVE. This "But what about the children!" lament is really really overdone by virtually every liberal nitwit I know. Cut the propaganda crap you moron. We were treated to this only days after 9/11, the pictures of the poor starving Afghani children, enough to break your heart yes? But what better gift to those children, and the children of Iraq, than to rid of them of the regimes that obviously cared nothing for them? That starved and sickened them by diverting humanitarian supplies to their military, and used them for human shields. That forced them to witness public beheadings of women in the middle of the town square. Don't EVEN try this "What about the children?" crap on me! And, while we're talking, what ever happened to that "humanitarian disaster" that was supposed to befall the Afghanis as a result of our ridding them of the Taliban? Remmember? The DREAD AFGHAN WINTER was supposed to set in, with HORRIBLE RESULTS? IT DIDN'T FUCKING HAPPEN YOU MORON. And now, we're supposed to trust KENNETH BACON, now of World Vision, to run humanitarian efforts in Iraq? That fucking bow-tie Clintonian criminal? DON'T PISS IN MY EAR AND TRY TO TELL ME IT'S JUST RAINING OUT! GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE NOW YOU FUCKING DIM-WITTED LIBERAL MORON! -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From henrik at enberg.org Thu Apr 10 23:13:49 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 01:55:22 -0400") References: <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> Bob Bernstein writes: > Cut the propaganda crap you moron. We were treated to this only days > after 9/11, the pictures of the poor starving Afghani children, enough > to break your heart yes? Afghani life is worth more that USian life, so the propaganda was entirely in line. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Thu Apr 10 23:35:27 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 08:13:49AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > Afghani life is worth more that USian life, so the propaganda was > entirely in line. Ah...I knew the Eurotrash contingent wouldn't be far behind. You want to support something worthwhile? Supprt France, Russia and every other European tin-pot two-for-a-quarter country that has contravened UN resolutions to make lots of money off the Iraqi regime just destroyed, support them to forgive the outstanding debts they're owed by Iraq. Put your fucking money where your fucking mouth is. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From apost at recalcitrant.org Fri Apr 11 00:17:16 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030410 23:01]: > > Don't EVEN try this "What about the children?" crap on me! > I'm sorry, there's not much I can do about your autism. You might try treatment with MDMA. Alan From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 00:21:34 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 12:17:16AM -0700, Alan Post wrote: > > I'm sorry, there's not much I can do about your autism. You might try > treatment with MDMA. Just plain outa gas, huh? I understand. Since 9/11 I have yet to meet a liberal moron who can keep up with me. You just joined that club. YHL TYFP FOAD -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From jdub at perkypants.org Fri Apr 11 00:26:55 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> > On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 12:17:16AM -0700, Alan Post wrote: > > > > I'm sorry, there's not much I can do about your autism. You might try > > treatment with MDMA. > > Just plain outa gas, huh? I understand. Since 9/11 I have yet to meet a > liberal moron who can keep up with me. You just joined that club. Is everyone who disagrees with you a liberal? What does it have to do with 11/9? - Jeff -- GU4DEC: June 16th-18th in Dublin, Ireland http://www.guadec.org/ "Think video. Think text flickering over your walls. Think games at work. Think anything where a staid, link-based browser is useless." "This person wrote for Ab Fab, right?" - Rich Welykochy From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Apr 11 00:46:52 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> References: <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> Message-ID: <20030411074651.GE2241@zork.net> begin Jeff Weff quotation: > > > Just plain outa gas, huh? I understand. Since 9/11 I have yet to > > meet a liberal moron who can keep up with me. You just joined that > > club. > > Is everyone who disagrees with you a liberal? What does it have to > do with 11/9? Come now Mr. Weff, don't tell me you've never heard the ABSURD LIBERAL MYTH troll before! -- end From apost at recalcitrant.org Fri Apr 11 00:52:06 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411015300.GE6009@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409200051.GA15640@zork.net> <20030409202935.GF1144@localhost.localdomain> <20030409204148.GD5442@dasbistro.com> <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411015300.GE6009@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411075206.GB16239@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030410 19:01]: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:54:54PM -0700, Alan Post wrote: > > > Right, since that whole Afghanistan thing has turned out so well. > > Though strangely, I can't recall the US government offering to > > demine the place. I'm sure Bush will announce something about > > that tomorrow. It'll be double-plus good! > > Wheee! Like shootin' fish in a barrel! Badda-bing badda-boom! > > I knew that sig would draw some pathetic lame comment from of the > resident fever-swamp denizens! Were you going to say something? From jdub at perkypants.org Fri Apr 11 01:10:18 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411074651.GE2241@zork.net> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> <20030411074651.GE2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030411081018.GJ1529@lazarus> > begin Jeff Weff quotation: > > > > > Just plain outa gas, huh? I understand. Since 9/11 I have yet to > > > meet a liberal moron who can keep up with me. You just joined that > > > club. > > > > Is everyone who disagrees with you a liberal? What does it have to > > do with 11/9? > > Come now Mr. Weff, don't tell me you've never heard the ABSURD > LIBERAL MYTH troll before! Come now master, don't tell me you've never heard the UNASSUMING INNOCENT QUESTION IN THE MIDDLE OF A FLAMEWAR troll before! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ ... *bounce*bounce*bounce* From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Apr 11 01:29:21 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411081018.GJ1529@lazarus> References: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> <20030411074651.GE2241@zork.net> <20030411081018.GJ1529@lazarus> Message-ID: <20030411082920.GF2241@zork.net> begin Jeff Weff quotation: > > > Come now Mr. Weff, don't tell me you've never heard the ABSURD > > LIBERAL MYTH troll before! > > Come now master, don't tell me you've never heard the UNASSUMING > INNOCENT QUESTION IN THE MIDDLE OF A FLAMEWAR troll before! Now I suppose you'll say you've never heard of the DOUBLE-BLUFF I'M RUBBER AND YOU'RE GLUE I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I troll before! -- end From apost at recalcitrant.org Fri Apr 11 02:26:44 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411092644.GD16239@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030410 23:01]: > > But what better gift to those children, and the children of Iraq, than > to rid of them of the regimes that obviously cared nothing for them? > That starved and sickened them by diverting humanitarian supplies to > their military, and used them for human shields. That forced them to > witness public beheadings of women in the middle of the town square. You seem to have great faith in US-government-installed regimes. Unfortunately, I don't see how the current bosses in Afghanistan, Kuwait, Latin America, etc. are doing great things for the people. A little reading would demonstrate to you that US-government-installed regimes in Latin America have the habit of murdering tens of thousands of their citizens. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 05:31:34 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> References: <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> Message-ID: <20030411123133.GF7403@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 05:26:55PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Is everyone who disagrees with you a liberal? No. >What does it have to do with 11/9? It has nothing to do with Nov. 9th. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 05:37:51 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411092644.GD16239@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411092644.GD16239@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <20030411123751.GG7403@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:26:44AM -0700, Alan Post wrote: > You seem to have great faith in US-government-installed regimes. Substandard tactic: put unacceptable over-simplifications in the mouth of your antagonist, and then pillory him for claiming them. > Unfortunately, I don't see how the current bosses in Afghanistan, > Kuwait, Latin America, etc. are doing great things for the people. Work harder at it then. It'll come to you. Please recall, also, that our primary motive for straightening out those two hellholes is not altruistic but quite selfish, Thank God. The altruism is only our secondary motive. > A little reading would demonstrate to you that US-government-installed > regimes in Latin America have the habit of murdering tens of thousands > of their citizens. Ah. Classic: "You disagree with me therefore you must be untutored in the extreme." Duh. C'mon Alan, admit it: you've shot your feeble load. You've got squat, doodoo, nada. Go home. Get some rest. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 05:46:23 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030410020145.GI27384@dasbistro.com> References: <20030409030645.GM28572@localhost.localdomain> <20030409155822.GB857@localhost.localdomain> <20030410020145.GI27384@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030411124623.GH7403@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 07:01:46PM -0700, Sam Phillips wrote: > Haha. Most excellent. Something in my config doesn't want me to see > your bogofilter pr0n. Can you see this?: X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.315435, version=0.11.1.6 int cnt prob spamicity histogram 0.00 29 0.000124 0.000025 ############### 0.10 2 0.120668 0.001802 ## 0.20 4 0.257786 0.009889 ### 0.30 4 0.370006 0.021982 ### 0.40 94 0.417144 0.228447 ################################################ 0.50 35 0.516731 0.286371 ################## 0.60 4 0.649625 0.294509 ### 0.70 3 0.746780 0.302212 ## 0.80 0 0.000000 0.000000 0.90 1 0.999416 0.315435 # Since starting this now-God-forsaken thread, Dave Relson has been encouraged by feedback from moi to fix bogofilter so that the histogram printout will be friendly to 80 char screens. It's supposed be in cvs right now! Woo-hoo! Amaze your friends! Startle relatives. Intimidate liberal wussy-boys! -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From zen at zork.net Fri Apr 11 07:30:23 2003 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411123751.GG7403@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411092644.GD16239@recalcitrant.org> <20030411123751.GG7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411143023.GA2239@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein uuencoded stream: > Substandard tactic: put unacceptable over-simplifications in the mouth > of your antagonist, and then pillory him for claiming them. > > Ah. Classic: "You disagree with me therefore you must be untutored in > the extreme." Duh. > > C'mon Alan, admit it: you've shot your feeble load. You've got squat, > doodoo, nada. Go home. Get some rest. :D -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From henrik at enberg.org Fri Apr 11 09:05:35 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:35:27 -0400") References: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> Bob Bernstein writes: > You want to support something worthwhile? Supprt France, Russia and > every other European tin-pot two-for-a-quarter country that has > contravened UN resolutions to make lots of money off the Iraqi > regime... Ha ha Haliburton. Next you're gonna tell me how the great white christian hope GWB actually did go to war for truth and justice. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 11:45:18 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> References: <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 06:05:35PM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > Ha ha Haliburton. Oh puleeze. If you don't like it, buy the stock and at least profit from it. Then give all those profits to Kenneth Bacon to distribute for you. (And, if you're going to bad-mouth a corporation, it's much more effective if you spell its name correctly, moron.) > Next you're gonna tell me how the great white christian hope GWB > actually did go to war for truth and justice. No. Saddam Hussein is clearly the great force for truth and justice in that part of the world. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Fri Apr 11 13:42:06 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Bob Bernstein wrote: > No. Saddam Hussein is clearly the great force for truth and justice in > that part of the world. I know sometimes conservatives get headaches when they try to understand this, but not everything in life is either/or. A person, for example, could dislike Saddam Hussein AND ALSO dislike George Bush. A person or country could also not be with the White House and not be with the terrorists at the same time. If this concept makes you dizzy, stop reading, get a glass of water, and go back to the safety of Ann Coulter. -- "Either you have an orange dick or you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch." --Ben Franklin From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 14:05:46 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:55:22AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > But what better gift to those children, and the children of Iraq, than > to rid of them of the regimes that obviously cared nothing for them? > That starved and sickened them by diverting humanitarian supplies to > their military, and used them for human shields. Supplies which were scarce enough as it is considering we've been enforcing a trade embargo on Iraq since the Gulf War. Don't get me wrong, I think those supplies should have gone to the people, no doubt. However the US is the cause of the sarving children and lack of medical supplies. And then people like YOU piss in MY ear and tell ME it's RAIN. When really it's just PISS. - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 14:09:11 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411210911.GB16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:45:18PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > Next you're gonna tell me how the great white christian hope GWB > > actually did go to war for truth and justice. > > No. Saddam Hussein is clearly the great force for truth and justice in > that part of the world. A Hussein over there, a Bush over here. Not much difference except one does not try to hide his corruption, and is gonna die. The other is a walking, talking, chimp who graduated from a prestigious college and is probably screwing your wife as you work long, hard days. At least if you live in Iraq you know what the fuck is up. - Nick From aelmore at interwoven.com Fri Apr 11 14:02:18 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: References: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411210217.GM53263@interwoven.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:42:06PM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > If this concept makes you dizzy, stop reading, get a glass of water, and > go back to the safety of Ann Coulter. What if you put a picture of Ann Coulter up on hotornot.com? Any bets on what score she'd get? From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Apr 11 14:12:13 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: References: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411211213.GG2241@zork.net> begin #2 of Berkeley quotation: > I know sometimes conservatives get headaches when they try to > understand this, but not everything in life is either/or. A person, > for example, could dislike Saddam Hussein AND ALSO dislike George > Bush. A person or country could also not be with the White House > and not be with the terrorists at the same time. It's called the fallacy of the false dichotomy, and it's more than welcome on this list! -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 14:20:07 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: References: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:42:06PM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > I know sometimes conservatives get headaches when they try to understand > this, but not everything in life is either/or. That's a lovely vacuous sentiment, which, fortunately for you, has nothing whatsoever to do with the matter under discussion. It serves only to make you feel good about yourself, as if you are susceptible of all those wonderful piquant subtleties of life which elude us cretins who have eaten too much red meat. You'd do well at the UN; why not apply to take up useless space there, rather than where you're doing that now? -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From henrik at enberg.org Fri Apr 11 14:22:48 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:45:18 -0400") References: <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <873ckoenkn.fsf@enberg.org> Bob Bernstein writes: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 06:05:35PM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > >> Next you're gonna tell me how the great white christian hope GWB >> actually did go to war for truth and justice. > > No. Saddam Hussein is clearly the great force for truth and justice in > that part of the world. If you're not with me you're a terrorist. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 14:26:36 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030409211407.GE5442@dasbistro.com> <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:05:46PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > However the US is the cause of the sarving children and lack > of medical supplies. I can see you too haven't cluttered your mind with facts or logic, but have fallen into lockstep with all the other liberal morons. We're going to hear a lot of this hyperbole now: "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN"? Who mandated the embargo? Who violated it? Idiot. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 14:28:50 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411211213.GG2241@zork.net> References: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411211213.GG2241@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030411212850.GF9875@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:12:13PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > It's called the fallacy of the false dichotomy, and it's more > than welcome on this list! Ah lovely irony. IRONY!!! -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Apr 11 10:31:36 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200304111331.36722.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Jennings's quote: | Supplies which were scarce enough as it is considering we've been | enforcing a trade embargo on Iraq since the Gulf War. Don't get | me wrong, I think those supplies should have gone to the people, | no doubt. However the US is the cause of the sarving children and | lack of medical supplies. yeah. and those palaces just sprang up out of the desert. that thing in your butt, next to your head, ain't an oscar mayer. what a fucking dimwit. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 14:30:42 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <873ckoenkn.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <873ckoenkn.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030411213042.GG9875@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 11:22:48PM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > If you're not with me you're a terrorist. Finally! You got something right wussy-boy! Go ahead though, hide behind the brave Americans soldiers. That's what they're there for, to protect the women and children. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Apr 11 14:32:04 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <873ckoenkn.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <873ckoenkn.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030411213203.GK2241@zork.net> begin Henrik Enberg quotation: > If you're not with me you're a terrorist. I have been declared a terrorist by the Tron mailing list for putting the word "begin" in my e-mails. I think I win the "frivolous target of terrorist fever" prize. -- end From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Apr 11 10:36:53 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411210911.GB16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210911.GB16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200304111336.53252.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Jennings's quote: | At least if you live in Iraq you know what the fuck is up. then you better get there, because you sure as hell ain got a clue now. and be sure to take copies of your emails and show them to the locals, who would be willing to help you achieve the distinction you have missed. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 14:51:03 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 05:26:36PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:05:46PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > However the US is the cause of the sarving children and lack > > of medical supplies. > > I can see you too haven't cluttered your mind with facts or > logic, but have fallen into lockstep with all the other liberal > morons. On the contrary Bobbie. > We're going to hear a lot of this hyperbole now: "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE > CHILDREN"? This has nothing to do with children, this has to do with you, and me. After school, by the 7-11, you and me. We'll settle who's right, once and for all. > Who mandated the embargo? Who violated it? Idiot. The UN mandated embargo on Iraq has been enforced predominately by US-British forces, including "no-fly" zones and monthly bombings of Iraq positions for many years. As recently as 1999 & 2000 talks were in progress about the steps which need to be taken in order to suspend the sanctions on Iraq. The main order of compliance being to cooperate with UN inspectors. Which they have been doing for several months now, yet still we insist they are hiding "Weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION", like what? Bombs made of dirty hypodermic needles that they've been using for years? ... scary. So tell me Bob, how come all of a sudden Iraq is a threat to us and what does this have to do with our "War against Terrorism" ? - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 14:51:50 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304111331.36722.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111331.36722.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030411215150.GD16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:31:36PM -0400, dep wrote: > begin Nick Jennings's quote: > > | Supplies which were scarce enough as it is considering we've been > | enforcing a trade embargo on Iraq since the Gulf War. Don't get > | me wrong, I think those supplies should have gone to the people, > | no doubt. However the US is the cause of the sarving children and > | lack of medical supplies. > > yeah. and those palaces just sprang up out of the desert. What the fuck are you talking about? From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 14:54:26 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304111336.53252.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210911.GB16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111336.53252.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030411215425.GE16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:36:53PM -0400, dep wrote: > begin Nick Jennings's quote: > > | At least if you live in Iraq you know what the fuck is up. > > then you better get there, because you sure as hell ain got a clue > now. and be sure to take copies of your emails and show them to the > locals, who would be willing to help you achieve the distinction you > have missed. Wait, did I post to the wrong list? This IS crackmonkey isn't it? Then what are all these stupid people doing here? - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 14:57:09 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411213042.GG9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <873ckoenkn.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411213042.GG9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030411215709.GF16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 05:30:42PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > Go ahead though, hide behind the brave Americans soldiers. That's what > they're there for, to protect the women and children. > Yeah and drink lots and lots of alchohol. Oh, and lets not forget those trained in what was once known as the School of the Americas. Those guys are here for us to, to kill all those ugly peasant in South America. Yeah something about a peoples revolution or some shit. - Nick From dave at zork.net Fri Apr 11 14:56:36 2003 From: dave at zork.net (Dave Barry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411215709.GF16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <873ckoenkn.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411213042.GG9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215709.GF16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030411215636.GA20612@zork.net> Quothe Nick Jennings , on Fri, Apr 11, 2003: > Oh, and lets not forget those trained in what was once known as the School > of the Americas. Those guys are here for us to, to kill all those ugly > peasant in South America. Yeah something about a peoples revolution or > some shit. > It is now called the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, and from what I understand, it's as active as ever in training these subversive types. -- When you grow up surrounded by willful ignorance, you find that mercy has its own country, and it's big and round. --Ani DiFranco From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Fri Apr 11 15:01:01 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Bob Bernstein wrote: > That's a lovely vacuous sentiment, which, fortunately for you, has > nothing whatsoever to do with the matter under discussion. I'm sorry that your short attention span doesn't allow you to remember your previous post. I will repost for you: Henrik> Next you're gonna tell me how the great white christian hope GWB Henrik> actually did go to war for truth and justice. Bob> No. Saddam Hussein is clearly the great force for truth and justice Bob> in that part of the world. You are accusing Henrik of being a Saddam lover, merely because he's skeptical of GWB's motives, while it's entirely possible that Henrik is a fan of neither. > It serves only to make you feel good about yourself, as if you are > susceptible of all those wonderful piquant subtleties of life which > elude us cretins who have eaten too much red meat. It doesn't really make me feel good about myself. It really just makes me pity you and your lack of reasoning. > You'd do well at the UN; why not apply to take up useless space there, > rather than where you're doing that now? The UN would be a great deal more useful if we eliminated the veto in the Security Council, among other things. Unfortunately, The U.S. has lobbied hard against that. -- "There was never a good war or a bad peace." --Ben Franklin From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 11 15:07:21 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411213042.GG9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <873ckoenkn.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411213042.GG9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1050098840.13762.14.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 14:30, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Go ahead though, hide behind the brave Americans soldiers. That's what > they're there for, to protect the women and children. Or to machine gun them down in Iraq and come home and beat the one's they own. -tduffy -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 11 15:10:36 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411215150.GD16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111331.36722.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411215150.GD16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <1050099035.13762.17.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 14:51, Nick Jennings wrote: > > yeah. and those palaces just sprang up out of the desert. > > What the fuck are you talking about? springy dessert palaces. yum. -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Apr 11 15:18:35 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <1050099035.13762.17.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111331.36722.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411215150.GD16731@iaminsane.com> <1050099035.13762.17.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> Message-ID: <20030411221835.GM2241@zork.net> begin Tom Duffy quotation: > On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 14:51, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > yeah. and those palaces just sprang up out of the desert. > > > > What the fuck are you talking about? > > springy dessert palaces. yum. I want to dessert, how. -- end From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Apr 11 11:23:15 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411215150.GD16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <200304111331.36722.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411215150.GD16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200304111423.15677.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Jennings's quote: | On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:31:36PM -0400, dep wrote: | > begin Nick Jennings's quote: | > | Supplies which were scarce enough as it is considering we've | > | been enforcing a trade embargo on Iraq since the Gulf War. | > | Don't get me wrong, I think those supplies should have gone to | > | the people, no doubt. However the US is the cause of the | > | sarving children and lack of medical supplies. | > | > yeah. and those palaces just sprang up out of the desert. | | What the fuck are you talking about? familiarize yourself with the history of -- oh, hell, anyplace longer than about 20 minutes into the past, just to prove you can -- and come back and i'll explain it to you. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Fri Apr 11 15:25:24 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Maybe it is spam. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:51:03 PDT." <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030410042553.GL2241@zork.net> <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200304112225.h3BMPOl37314@mail0.rawbw.com> Nick Jennings wrote: > > Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > We're going to hear a lot of this hyperbole now: "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE > > CHILDREN"? > > This has nothing to do with children, this has to do with you, and me. > After school, by the 7-11, you and me. Everything changed after 7-11. From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Apr 11 11:26:50 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411215425.GE16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <200304111336.53252.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411215425.GE16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200304111426.50972.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Jennings's quote: | Then what are all these stupid people doing here? dunno. i figured you took a wrong turn looking for tard-monkey and just sort of wandered in. and begged to be baited. and i apologize for deriving amusement by tormenting the less fortunate. so, helmet back on, here's a fresh pudding cup, third door on the left down the hall, and off with you. no, not that door. no, not that one, either. yes, that's right -- the one with the nice, soft floor and walls. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 15:38:06 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304111423.15677.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <200304111331.36722.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411215150.GD16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111423.15677.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030411223806.GG16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:23:15PM -0400, dep wrote: > begin Nick Jennings's quote: > | On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:31:36PM -0400, dep wrote: > | > yeah. and those palaces just sprang up out of the desert. > | > | What the fuck are you talking about? > > familiarize yourself with the history of -- oh, hell, anyplace longer > than about 20 minutes into the past, just to prove you can -- and > come back and i'll explain it to you. I know my fare share of history, it's one of my main interests. Unfortunately, trying to see the intelligence in asinine one-liners isn't. - Nick From apost at recalcitrant.org Fri Apr 11 15:34:17 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411215425.GE16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210911.GB16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111336.53252.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411215425.GE16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030411223417.GF16239@recalcitrant.org> * Nick Jennings (nkj@iaminsane.com) [030411 14:52]: > > Wait, did I post to the wrong list? This IS crackmonkey isn't it? > > Then what are all these stupid people doing here? They're not stupid, they're just accustomed to blindly trusting authority figures. Or they're trolling. Or both! From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 15:41:30 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304111426.50972.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <200304111336.53252.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411215425.GE16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111426.50972.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030411224129.GH16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:26:50PM -0400, dep wrote: > begin Nick Jennings's quote: > > | Then what are all these stupid people doing here? > > dunno. i figured you took a wrong turn looking for tard-monkey and > just sort of wandered in. and begged to be baited. > > and i apologize for deriving amusement by tormenting the less > fortunate. so, helmet back on, here's a fresh pudding cup, third door > on the left down the hall, and off with you. no, not that door. no, > not that one, either. yes, that's right -- the one with the nice, > soft floor and walls. Wow, I've got to hand it to you, all those years of your being laughed at and picked on during grade school seem to have really paid off. If only they could see you now. - Nick From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Apr 11 11:55:16 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411223806.GG16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <200304111423.15677.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411223806.GG16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200304111455.16966.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Jennings's quote: | On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:23:15PM -0400, dep wrote: | > begin Nick Jennings's quote: | > | On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 01:31:36PM -0400, dep wrote: | > | > yeah. and those palaces just sprang up out of the desert. | > | | > | What the fuck are you talking about? | > | > familiarize yourself with the history of -- oh, hell, anyplace | > longer than about 20 minutes into the past, just to prove you can | > -- and come back and i'll explain it to you. | | I know my fare share of history, it's one of my main interests. | Unfortunately, trying to see the intelligence in asinine | one-liners isn't. which is why you should stop posting them, whether you learned your history from a cab driver or not. but, presuming that the ride was longer than 20 minutes -- and you weren't sharing the cab, that would be cheating -- you might have noticed that iraq is chock-full of recently build palaces made possible by the money allowed iraq during the embargo, rather than having been spent on the people of that country. no, i guess you didn't. next time, tell the driver you want to the airport and are from out of town. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Apr 11 11:58:05 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411223417.GF16239@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215425.GE16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411223417.GF16239@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <200304111458.05712.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Alan Post's quote: | They're not stupid, they're just accustomed to blindly trusting | authority figures. when you'd have us blindly trust you^h^h^hdimshit tinfoil hatters on mailing lists instead. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 16:30:24 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:21 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304111455.16966.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <200304111423.15677.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411223806.GG16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111455.16966.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030411233024.GI16731@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:55:16PM -0400, dep wrote: > begin Nick Jennings's quote: > | I know my fare share of history, it's one of my main interests. > | Unfortunately, trying to see the intelligence in asinine > | one-liners isn't. > > which is why you should stop posting them Although I've posted no one-liners in this particular thread, I do want to point out that when I do post asinine one liners, I hardly waste my time trying to find the intelligence in them. Upon reading the rest of your response (below), I see I shouldn't have wasted my time trying to find anything intelligent in yours as well. > , whether you learned your > history from a cab driver or not. Books are easier to understand usually, and I trust the fact that with most books, pent up aggression 'tword ones profession has been painstakingly edited out. This is not the case with cabbies. > but, presuming that the ride was > longer than 20 minutes -- and you weren't sharing the cab, that would > be cheating -- Rarely do I take a cab when the ride is longer that 20 minutes, that can be pretty expensive. > you might have noticed that Iraq is chock-full of > recently build palaces made possible by the money allowed Iraq during > the embargo, Oh GEE Really? You mean people spent some of the money *allowed* to them on something other than food? And you thought all that was needed to fix OUR economy was a little old war? > rather than having been spent on the people of that > country. no, i guess you didn't. next time, tell the driver you want > to the airport and are from out of town. Yeah, building buildings is not "for" the people, and if your not "for" the people, you're against them! BURN THE EFFIGY OF OUR STARVATION! AND THE WORKERS WHO BUILT THEM! I thought you were going to have something intelligent to say, disregarding the fact that you mentioned _HISTORY_ and then proceeded into a rant about cabbies and recent construction work in Iraq. - Nick From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 16:36:36 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM Message-ID: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> Y'know, it cracks me up, this list. For weeks now, since the real wetwork began, you could hear a pin drop around here. I even thought, "Gee, the little geek children on CM must be very frightened by what's going on." But now, when it's finally clear how right the US has been, and how right W has been, we're hearing all the same dreary arguments rehearsed here that most of us have been dealing with not for weeks but for months; that means you Jennings, the history buff. And all of a sudden the focus is on South America. Ha! That's it for me. I'm gonna go watch the Red Sox. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 16:45:11 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Maybe it is spam. In-Reply-To: <200304112225.h3BMPOl37314@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <200304112225.h3BMPOl37314@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030411234511.GI9875@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 03:25:24PM -0700, J. M. Brenner wrote: Nope. Not spam. Note spiffy new histogram that fits 80 char screen; currently available in bogo cvs: int cnt prob spamicity histogram 0.00 64 0.004136 0.001735 ################################################ 0.10 3 0.147765 0.004723 ### 0.20 3 0.230486 0.009567 ### 0.30 8 0.371111 0.031462 ###### 0.40 19 0.434202 0.087662 ############### 0.50 59 0.526131 0.239200 ############################################# 0.60 4 0.640974 0.249155 ### 0.70 0 0.000000 0.000000 0.80 1 0.860008 0.253746 # 0.90 0 0.000000 0.000000 > Everything changed after 7-11. Hey! What about Store24? -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 17:02:24 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412000224.GA2293@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 07:36:36PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Y'know, it cracks me up, this list. For weeks now, since the real > wetwork began, you could hear a pin drop around here. I even thought, > "Gee, the little geek children on CM must be very frightened by what's > going on." Yeah, It is very frightening to see the ignorant hypocrisy of US foreign policy. > But now, when it's finally clear how right the US has been, and how It's clear? Please explain. > right W has been, Heh, good one. > we're hearing all the same dreary arguments > rehearsed here that most of us have been dealing with not for weeks > but for months; that means you Jennings, the history buff. Me, Wha? (Looking around aimlessly). Honey, I ain't got TIME to rehearse child! I just pull whatever I can get a hold of up my ass and fling it at the nearest like-minded ape. > And all of a sudden the focus is on South America. Ha! The 'focus'? Is that something you've invented to make a point? > That's it for me. I'm gonna go watch the Red Sox. May God be with you, and your holy team. I hope they prevail in utter triumph in this time of great sacrifice, much like the New England Patriots won the Super Bowl after 9-11. Is your logic something along those lines as far as your "US is right" statement? - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Apr 11 17:15:08 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412001508.GB2293@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 07:36:36PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: ...snip... > we're hearing all the same dreary arguments > rehearsed here that most of us have been dealing with not for weeks > but for months ...snip... > And all of a sudden the focus is on South America. Ha! So... this whole topic change was rehearsed? *GASP* What a cunning way to confuse you Bob. I'd like to apologize for bringing up subject matter that you can't learn about on FOX NEWS. It's unfair to you, I know. > That's it for me. I'm gonna go watch the Red Sox. It's ok Bob, too much excitement for one day. Would you like me to get you a beer or some McDonalds? Just remember: South America's purpose is to supply the US with: - Oil - Drugs - Cheap cow grazing land for our fast food empire (i.e. rainforest) That's all we have to say about South America if you don't want to talk about it. - Nick From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Apr 11 17:26:20 2003 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Maybe it is spam. In-Reply-To: <20030411234511.GI9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <200304112225.h3BMPOl37314@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030411234511.GI9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412002620.GB21204@zork.net> Bob Bernstein writes: > -- > Today's lexicographical term: > > "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html You can say that again! -- Seth David Schoen | Very frankly, I am opposed to people http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | being programmed by others. http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | -- Fred Rogers (1928-2003), | 464 U.S. 417, 445 (1984) From apost at recalcitrant.org Fri Apr 11 17:39:26 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412003926.GI16239@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030411 16:41]: > Y'know, it cracks me up, this list. For weeks now, since the real > wetwork began, you could hear a pin drop around here. I even thought, > "Gee, the little geek children on CM must be very frightened by what's > going on." Ooh, I'm impressed: "wetwork." Did you pick that up from a Tom Clancy novel? From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 17:48:39 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030412001508.GB2293@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412001508.GB2293@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030412004839.GJ9875@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 05:15:08PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > South America's purpose is to supply the US with: > - Oil > - Drugs > - Cheap cow grazing land for our fast food empire (i.e. rainforest) Pure Chomsky crap. Want my old copies of Z? As for my collection of New Left Review, which goes back to the 60's, you can't have them. My Leftist credentials far outstrip yours, I'm sure, lamebrain. I was a member of the original Northern Student Movement group in Cambridge. Thing is, I GREW UP. One thing I never forgot though, which I learned the hard way in the townie bars of Central Square: *always* know who you're talking to. Aanyhow, I have been studying and talking and writing about this for a very long time, but now it's time to take a break and enjoy the results. We're the good guys. We do most everything better than anyone else. And, when riled, we are incredible bad-asses. Ask Christianne Amanpour, who probably STILL hasn't untwisted her panties from the target practice at the hotel the other day. Too bad she wasn't inside it at the time... HAND -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Apr 11 18:00:21 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030412004839.GJ9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412001508.GB2293@iaminsane.com> <20030412004839.GJ9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412010021.GN2241@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > Thing is, I GREW UP. And then you got the FUCK off my list! AND THEN I WOKE UP!! -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 17:58:53 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Maybe it is spam. In-Reply-To: <20030412002620.GB21204@zork.net> References: <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <200304112225.h3BMPOl37314@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030411234511.GI9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412002620.GB21204@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030412005853.GK9875@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 05:26:20PM -0700, Seth David Schoen wrote: > > "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html > > You can say that again! Good 'un! Almost a perfect 5.0. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 11 18:17:34 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The children, you say? Message-ID: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> Here's a text dump of a page I put up in the Fall of 2001; it includes an email to NBC Nightly News dated Sept. 19th of that year. Enjoy. What Scares Me The Most -is the possibility that we won't have the inner resources collectively, as a nation, to see this thing through to the end. Why, you ask? Well, I don't hear anyone talking about what the end will look like, and that tells me that not many of us are committed to getting there. It will look like this- The map of the Mideast must be redrawn. There's no other way to put it. I think we can dress it up if we need to in terms of "replacing regimes," but look at the crap Wolfowitz had to deal with for using the simple phrase "ending states." And what cannot be predicted is how replacing, say, minimally, the regimes of Iraq and Afghanistan will impact the regimes of neighboring states. The notion that we must be careful lest we contribute to the "instability" of the region is such monumental poppycock; what stability? No. Every Arab state that has made a bargain with the devil in order to stave off the Islamist threat within its own borders will have to come to grips finally, whether this means the end of a given state, or its destruction and rebirth. Everything is up for grabs, from Eygpt to Jordan to Iran to Syria to Saudi Arabia. Plus of course Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh. Did I mention that one thing that scares me is that we are still mired in this stupid business of "proving" a connection to Iraq? Prove what to exactly whose satisfaction and why? When did the notions of survival and self-defence get watered down to the point that - apparently - those motives carry the day in only some situations and not in others? Those Afghani children Where's the outrage you ask? One night in September after the attacks NBC News ran footage of starving Afghani children. I was so enraged I sent the following to Tom Brokaw. I stand by it 100%. Subject: cut the crap Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:17:46 -0400 From: Bob Bernstein To: nightly@nbc.com Let's get something straight right away: 1) I don't give a damn about starving Afghani children. 2) The US is not responsible for starving Afghani children. 3) Did I mention I didn't give a fuck about starving Afghani children? 4) The US is not responsible for saving starving Afghani children. 5) I almost forgot: fuck you and anyone else who thinks I should care about starving Afghani children. 6) Why not grow a pair of balls and, for every second of starving Afghani children you air, show a second of footage of body parts recovered from Ground Zero? 7) Cut the crap. You know what contributed to Tuesday? Assholes like you who think we're the Bad Guys. Fuck off. 8) Given the chance, I would trade the lives of one hundred starving Afghani children for that of ONE FUCKING NY FIREFIGHTER. 9) No, I don't feel guilty about any of this. -- Bob Bernstein | http://www.ruptured-duck.com at | 1024D/4A93E562 Esmond, R.I. | 115B 8AA0 D418 F33B F0B1 USA | 6230 8014 B8D5 4A93 E562 ------------------------------------------------------------- Feedback? In answer to the many queries I've received as to whether or not Mr. Brokaw, or anyone else at NBC news, got back to me on this, the answer is a resounding NO. Excursus Some recent conversations have led me to believe that the feelings expressed in the email above are not as readily understandable to some as I would have liked to believe. Actually, there are a few individuals whose understanding I would have appreciated but I see now it won't be forthcoming; perhaps it is unfair of me to put them to the test, at least it's not fair to do that without providing some benefit of explanation. The explanation would be in terms of a mental experiment typically made part of an Ethics 201 course, you know, the one where you run into a burning building and are confronted with three people only one of whom you can save, so who do you save and how do you provide reasons for your choice? It's a variation on the theme of lifeboat ethics. Who do you allow in the boat, given the fact that if everyone gets in no one will survive since the lifeboat will sink? My reasons for preferring the firefighter over the one hundred children would first be that it isn't a numbers game, that it is completely cynical to weigh the value of lives in terms of their quantity. So it would be the same for me if there were only two children or one child, one starving Afghani child, and one New York firefighter. I put the number one hundred in there for effect, to shock the reader. My next reason would be deemed by many to epitomize the "atavistic" quality of love of one's country: the firefigher is one of us. Charity begins at home. A snooty cosmopolitanism is rapidly finding itself totally out of place in the post-9/11 world. A fondness for the place that has borne us through life needn't be seen as some height of irrationalism. So, if I could carry ninety nine people out of that burning building, I would take first the firefighter and then ninety eight children. Two children I would have to leave to die. But the import of the media cramming the visages of starving children down my throat only eight days after the attacks touched me off, namely, that I am now supposed to grow superhuman strength and save all one hundred and one people in the building, and feel terrible about myself if I don't succeed. In the context of those first few days after the attacks, the intended effect of covering the humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan could only be to slow our hand in retaliation, to weaken our resolve to defend ourselves. NBC News did nothing to explain that the best thing that could be done for those children would be to remove, speedily, via military action of unbridled ferocity, the Taliban from power. As a matter of fact, that has always been my favored name for the operation: "Operation Unbridled Ferocity." From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Apr 11 15:00:04 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411233024.GI16731@iaminsane.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <200304111455.16966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411233024.GI16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200304111800.04201.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Nick Jennings's quote: | Books are easier to understand usually, and I trust the fact that | with most books, pent up aggression 'tword ones profession has | been painstakingly edited out. This is not the case with cabbies. i was trying to understand your having learned history, as you claimed to have done, via fare. and now i do: you're nothing more than a fucking moron with pretentions who is crying himself to sleep each night knowing that now you'll never have saddam jism dribbling out your ass. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From henrik at enberg.org Fri Apr 11 19:23:19 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 21:17:34 -0400") References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> Bob Bernstein writes: > snip typical psychopath republican drivel... I fully agree, show more dead NYC firefighters on TV. There's nothing more exhilarating and humorous than that. It makes me laugh more than Futurama re-runs. From dep at linuxandmain.com Fri Apr 11 16:58:14 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | I fully agree, show more dead NYC firefighters on TV. There's | nothing more exhilarating and humorous than that. It makes me | laugh more than Futurama re-runs. ah, yes, that teutonic lust for american blood. too bad you are too fucking much of a pipsqueak to do anything about it. but, oh my it would be fun to watch you try. for the two or three seconds until you hit the ground. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Apr 11 22:33:04 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030412053303.GB13443@linuxmafia.com> Quoting dep (dep@linuxandmain.com): > ah, yes, that teutonic lust for american blood. too bad you are too > fucking much of a pipsqueak to do anything about it. Mr. Powell, it's really not polite to refer to Scandinavians as "Teutonic". Nor accurate. War has evidently _not_ taught you geography, traditional witticisms on the matter notwithstanding. -- Cheers, Founding member of the Hyphenation Society, a grassroots-based, Rick Moen not-for-profit, locally-owned-and-operated, cooperatively-managed, rick@linuxmafia.com modern-American-English-usage-improvement association. From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Fri Apr 11 22:42:30 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412053303.GB13443@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20030412054153.T17345-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Tjos isdwhathappens wnhen yo've been drnking? huh SMERSH IS GON NA GET OU GET YOU GOOD HGGET YOUYR GOOSE BE$TA YOUR HOODb On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting dep (dep@linuxandmain.com): > > > ah, yes, that teutonic lust for american blood. too bad you are too > > fucking much of a pipsqueak to do anything about it. > > Mr. Powell, it's really not polite to refer to Scandinavians as > "Teutonic". Nor accurate. > > War has evidently _not_ taught you geography, traditional witticisms on > the matter notwithstanding. > > -- > Cheers, Founding member of the Hyphenation Society, a grassroots-based, > Rick Moen not-for-profit, locally-owned-and-operated, cooperatively-managed, > rick@linuxmafia.com modern-American-English-usage-improvement association. > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From jdub at perkypants.org Fri Apr 11 22:50:53 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030412004839.GJ9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412001508.GB2293@iaminsane.com> <20030412004839.GJ9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412055053.GS1109@lazarus> > We're the good guys. > > We do most everything better than anyone else. > > And, when riled, we are incredible bad-asses. 1. Assumption! 2. Assumption! 3. WTF??? 4. PROFIT! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "The Motif interface, with chunkier controls, felt more like a ghetto blaster." - Liam Quin From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Fri Apr 11 23:11:30 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030412055053.GS1109@lazarus> Message-ID: <20030412061124.P24525-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> 1)_ FAHHet On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > We're the good guys. > > > > We do most everything better than anyone else. > > > > And, when riled, we are incredible bad-asses. > > 1. Assumption! > 2. Assumption! > 3. WTF??? > 4. PROFIT! > > - Jeff > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > "The Motif interface, with chunkier controls, felt more like a ghetto > blaster." - Liam Quin > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From jdub at perkypants.org Fri Apr 11 23:14:10 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030412061124.P24525-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030412055053.GS1109@lazarus> <20030412061124.P24525-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030412061410.GT1109@lazarus> > 1)_ FAHHet Is that code for "top posting moron"? - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "There's always a new bogeyman - every two months, there's a new axe to add to the axis of evil." - Michael Moore From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Fri Apr 11 23:22:33 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030412061410.GT1109@lazarus> Message-ID: <20030412062222.D25748-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> I'm allowed to top post becxaue I've been drinking On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > 1)_ FAHHet > > Is that code for "top posting moron"? > > - Jeff > > -- > linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ > > "There's always a new bogeyman - every two months, there's a new axe to > add to the axis of evil." - Michael Moore > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Apr 11 23:21:45 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030412062222.D25748-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030412061410.GT1109@lazarus> <20030412062222.D25748-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030412062145.GB18790@zork.net> begin Nikolai Krylenko quotation: > I'm allowed to top post becxaue I've been drinking Oh. Can't hold your liquor. Got it. -- end From nick at zork.net Fri Apr 11 23:37:08 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Damn you all to hell! You blew it up! Message-ID: <20030412063708.GC18790@zork.net> I am so sick and tired of all this right-wing "am not/are too" trolling. Just fuck all y'all. See? You made me say "y'all"! Shame on you. So to counteract the flood of messages from Bob "Anne Coulter is my Anti-Drug" Bernstein, here's the latest DVD release of emad's greatest theatrical work to date: http://www.mgm.com/mgm/images/box-dvd/BREAKIN2-box_hires_dvd.jpg <-- emad Thank you. -- end From nick at zork.net Sat Apr 12 00:06:28 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] pravda.ru Message-ID: <20030412070628.GD18790@zork.net> So everyone loves pravda.ru, the former communist party mouthpiece cum supermarket tabloid. It's even in portuguese! So I noticed today that one of the links in the top of the front page is "fark.ru". The Russian for "boobies" is apparently "erotichno". 00:05 yeah that's emad alright. -- end From adam at flounder.net Sat Apr 12 00:02:14 2003 From: adam at flounder.net (Adam McKenna) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411123133.GF7403@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> <20030411123133.GF7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412070214.GC13836@flounder.net> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 08:31:34AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 05:26:55PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > Is everyone who disagrees with you a liberal? > > No. > > >What does it have to do with 11/9? > > It has nothing to do with Nov. 9th. Hey, that's my birthday! --Adam From apost at recalcitrant.org Sat Apr 12 01:11:06 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030412081106.GJ16239@recalcitrant.org> * dep (dep@linuxandmain.com) [030411 21:01]: > > ah, yes, that teutonic lust for american blood. too bad you are too > fucking much of a pipsqueak to do anything about it. but, oh my it > would be fun to watch you try. for the two or three seconds until > you hit the ground. If there's anything sadder than a frothing-at-the-mouth misanthrope, it's his me-too sidekick. From apost at recalcitrant.org Sat Apr 12 02:07:14 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304111458.05712.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215425.GE16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411223417.GF16239@recalcitrant.org> <200304111458.05712.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030412090714.GK16239@recalcitrant.org> * dep (dep@linuxandmain.com) [030411 16:00]: > begin Alan Post's quote: > > | They're not stupid, they're just accustomed to blindly trusting > | authority figures. > > when you'd have us blindly trust you^h^h^hdimshit tinfoil hatters on > mailing lists instead. Quoting the Immortal Philosopher Graham Chapman: Look. You've got it all wrong. You don't need to follow me. You don't need to follow anybody! You've got to think for yourselves. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Apr 12 02:24:12 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412081106.GJ16239@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412081106.GJ16239@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <200304120524.12363.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Alan Post's quote: | If there's anything sadder than a frothing-at-the-mouth | misanthrope, it's his me-too sidekick. well, then shut the fuck up. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Apr 12 02:24:51 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412053303.GB13443@linuxmafia.com> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412053303.GB13443@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <200304120522.17843.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Rick Moen's quote: | Mr. Powell, it's really not polite to refer to Scandinavians as | "Teutonic". Nor accurate. quite right. blix lickers. ice people. suicide bait. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From henrik at enberg.org Sat Apr 12 08:21:53 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep@linuxandmain.com's message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:13:20 -0400") References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87y92f68ry.fsf@enberg.org> dep writes: > begin Henrik Enberg's quote: > > | I fully agree, show more dead NYC firefighters on TV. There's > | nothing more exhilarating and humorous than that. It makes me > | laugh more than Futurama re-runs. > > ah, yes, that teutonic lust for american blood. too bad you are too > fucking much of a pipsqueak to do anything about it. but, oh my it > would be fun to watch you try. for the two or three seconds until you > hit the ground. Ha ha, private reply. Yes, we all know that due to the low level of civilisation in the US, you twits only understand violence, in a Neanderthal kind of way. Too bad you dudes get your ass kicked every time you jump someone that isn't an utter weakling. From dave at zork.net Sat Apr 12 08:31:36 2003 From: dave at zork.net (Bleh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] pravda.ru In-Reply-To: <20030412070628.GD18790@zork.net> References: <20030412070628.GD18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030412153136.GA22527@zork.net> Quothe Nick Moffitt , on Sat, Apr 12, 2003: > So everyone loves pravda.ru, the former communist party mouthpiece cum > supermarket tabloid. It's even in portuguese! > > So I noticed today that one of the links in the top of the front page > is "fark.ru". > > The Russian for "boobies" is apparently "erotichno". > > 00:05 yeah that's emad alright. > So, you know that the IRC channel you were in is probably chock full of zombies right. I mean, look around dude, IRC is a haven for those DDoS bots. I bet that drwiii isn't even a real person. All I'm saying is, watch out. These zombies could be planning an attack RIGHT BEHIND YOU! -- When you grow up surrounded by willful ignorance, you find that mercy has its own country, and it's big and round. --Ani DiFranco From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Sat Apr 12 08:49:23 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:22 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304120524.12363.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412081106.GJ16239@recalcitrant.org> <200304120524.12363.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87istjn2bg.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> dep writes: > begin Alan Post's quote: > > | If there's anything sadder than a frothing-at-the-mouth > | misanthrope, it's his me-too sidekick. > > well, then shut the fuck up. Me too. -- erik bourget | CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the | domestic circle. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Apr 12 05:27:22 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87y92f68ry.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87y92f68ry.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200304120827.22218.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | Yes, we all know that due to the low level of civilisation in the | US, you twits only understand violence, in a Neanderthal kind of | way. ah -- the sour grapes of a coward. | Too bad you dudes get your ass kicked every time you jump someone | that isn't an utter weakling. apparently, then, europe is populated entirely by utter weaklings. which anyone who is paying attention already knew. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sat Apr 12 09:29:54 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030412070214.GC13836@flounder.net> References: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411071715.GA16239@recalcitrant.org> <20030411072134.GD7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411072655.GG1529@lazarus> <20030411123133.GF7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030412070214.GC13836@flounder.net> Message-ID: <20030412162954.GE880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Adam McKenna quotation: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 08:31:34AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 05:26:55PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > Is everyone who disagrees with you a liberal? > > > > No. > > > > >What does it have to do with 11/9? > > > > It has nothing to do with Nov. 9th. > > Hey, that's my birthday! You poor thing. I knew a guy once who was born on December 7. He really got tired of people referring to his birth as "a date which will live in infamy". - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mD8BjLHcIq3dHxYRAs9CAJ4tySiPGhzEqMn6VxopT6Hnn2I5CACfXcyF 9wli1+CpfzbxCXaldWyt1EI= =3pXV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From henrik at enberg.org Sat Apr 12 10:28:59 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304120827.22218.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep@linuxandmain.com's message of "Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:27:22 -0400") References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87y92f68ry.fsf@enberg.org> <200304120827.22218.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87vfxjoc9w.fsf@enberg.org> dep writes: > begin Henrik Enberg's quote: > > | Yes, we all know that due to the low level of civilisation in the > | US, you twits only understand violence, in a Neanderthal kind of > | way. > > ah -- the sour grapes of a coward. Oh yes, if forgot. I USia bravery means blindly following the leader. > | Too bad you dudes get your ass kicked every time you jump someone > | that isn't an utter weakling. > > apparently, then, europe is populated entirely by utter weaklings. > which anyone who is paying attention already knew. You guy never accomplished much in Europe. The only ones you ever beaten in war would have lost to the Vatican Swiss Guard, so don't act all proud and shit. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Apr 12 06:56:31 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87vfxjoc9w.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304120827.22218.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87vfxjoc9w.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200304120956.31527.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | > ah -- the sour grapes of a coward. | | Oh yes, if forgot. I USia bravery means blindly following the | leader. actually, no, it means employing our considerable wisdom and resources, things with which cowards of pipsqueak lineage would not understand, to lead, and to solve the problems that europe has as it's sole reason for existence bringing upon itself. | You guy never accomplished much in Europe. The only ones you ever | beaten in war would have lost to the Vatican Swiss Guard, so don't | act all proud and shit. mighty big talk for someone from a continent whose only notable export is unjustified pretension, whose last victory over oppression took place when throwing rocks was the chief form of combat, and which has neither the will nor the ability to achieve even a vague, puny imitation of something like the marshall plan. you need to understand it, and quickly: what you think of us doesn't matter. what we think of you very much matters, not to us but to you. you may not believe that you have this need. so ignore it and find out. there will be no second chance. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From henrik at enberg.org Sat Apr 12 11:17:30 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304120956.31527.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep@linuxandmain.com's message of "Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:56:31 -0400") References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304120827.22218.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87vfxjoc9w.fsf@enberg.org> <200304120956.31527.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87adevoa11.fsf@enberg.org> dep writes: > begin Henrik Enberg's quote: > > | > ah -- the sour grapes of a coward. > | > | Oh yes, if forgot. I USia bravery means blindly following the > | leader. > > actually, no, it means employing our considerable wisdom and > resources, things with which cowards of pipsqueak lineage would not > understand, to lead, and to solve the problems that europe has as > it's sole reason for existence bringing upon itself. We don't have any major problems aside from the ones caused by you war-wanking twits. If you didn't insist on i > | You guy never accomplished much in Europe. The only ones you ever > | beaten in war would have lost to the Vatican Swiss Guard, so don't > | act all proud and shit. > > mighty big talk for someone from a continent whose only notable export > is unjustified pretension, whose last victory over oppression took > place when throwing rocks was the chief form of combat, Europeans took out Hitler. Admittedly, the US got Mussolini, but that's not really quite as impressive. > and which has neither the will nor the ability to achieve even a > vague, puny imitation of something like the marshall plan. You know, if you lot insist on giving us money, why the fuck would we say no? > you need to understand it, and quickly: what you think of us doesn't > matter. what we think of you very much matters, not to us but to > you. you may not believe that you have this need. so ignore it and > find out. there will be no second chance. Ohh, are going to stop the export of your cars or something? that'll really bum us europeans out. From radix42 at cox.net Sat Apr 12 12:06:56 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87y92f68ry.fsf@enberg.org> References: <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> At 08:21 AM 4/12/2003, you wrote: >dep writes: > > > begin Henrik Enberg's quote: > > > > | I fully agree, show more dead NYC firefighters on TV. There's > > | nothing more exhilarating and humorous than that. It makes me > > | laugh more than Futurama re-runs. > > > > ah, yes, that teutonic lust for american blood. too bad you are too > > fucking much of a pipsqueak to do anything about it. but, oh my it > > would be fun to watch you try. for the two or three seconds until you > > hit the ground. > >Ha ha, private reply. > >Yes, we all know that due to the low level of civilisation in the US, >you twits only understand violence, in a Neanderthal kind of way. > >Too bad you dudes get your ass kicked every time you jump someone that >isn't an utter weakling. Oh, like Germany or Japan in the '40s? May your mother be raped by Qusay. You DO seem to like Ba'athists, I"m sure your family would have enjoyed living there. From radix42 at cox.net Sat Apr 12 12:09:31 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87adevoa11.fsf@enberg.org> References: <200304120956.31527.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304120827.22218.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87vfxjoc9w.fsf@enberg.org> <200304120956.31527.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120816.026fd478@pop.west.cox.net> At 11:17 AM 4/12/2003, you wrote: >Ohh, are going to stop the export of your cars or something? that'll >really bum us europeans out. No, it'll bum you out when we stop BUYING them, we didn't get a $10 Trillion economy by sitting on our asses, and we generally prefer Japanese to Eurotrash. From henrik at enberg.org Sat Apr 12 12:15:18 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> (David Mercer's message of "Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:06:56 -0700") References: <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <87brzba5o9.fsf@enberg.org> David Mercer writes: > At 08:21 AM 4/12/2003, you wrote: >>Too bad you dudes get your ass kicked every time you jump someone that >>isn't an utter weakling. > > Oh, like Germany I was talking about the US here, not the Soviet Union. From andy at strugglers.net Sat Apr 12 12:17:47 2003 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> References: <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030412191746.GC14334@lug.org.uk> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:06:56PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > May your mother be raped by Qusay. You DO seem to like Ba'athists, I"m > sure your family would have enjoyed living there. I too find that wishing rape upon my debating opponent's mother is a sure-fire winning tactic. Would you like to co-author a paper on the subject? From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Apr 12 08:22:53 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87adevoa11.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <200304120956.31527.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87adevoa11.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200304121122.53275.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | We don't have any major problems aside from the ones caused by you | war-wanking twits. If you didn't insist on i i don't. nobody does. | Europeans took out Hitler. Admittedly, the US got Mussolini, but | that's not really quite as impressive. exfuckingscuse me? what europeans were those? i mean, i suppose it's true, in that in the final moment hitler, a european, got hitler. however, you guys were running around with your thumbs up your butts, doing little but surrendering and shipping jews off to death camps, until we arrived. hitler took everything he wanted until we -- not you, we -- stopped him. though if my nation's history were as embarrassing as yours is, i'd lie about it, too. | You know, if you lot insist on giving us money, why the fuck would | we say no? we rebuilt your worthless goddammed continent. now, if your argument is that it wasn't worth the time, trouble, and expense, well, i agree with you. | Ohh, are going to stop the export of your cars or something? | that'll really bum us europeans out. nope. we'll stop purchasing the snot, farts, and other products of europe. and that really *will* bum you out. let's see. what would be europe's contribution to the world since, oh, say, 1500? ummmmm . . . well, that would be absolutely nothing, wouldn't it. yeah, marconi more or less invented the radio. but he had to move to england to do it. indeed, the only european contributions worth a toot have taken place by europeans smart enough to get the hell out of europe. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From radix42 at cox.net Sat Apr 12 12:22:14 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87brzba5o9.fsf@enberg.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412121805.00b56510@pop.west.cox.net> At 12:15 PM 4/12/2003, you wrote: >David Mercer writes: > > > At 08:21 AM 4/12/2003, you wrote: > > >>Too bad you dudes get your ass kicked every time you jump someone that > >>isn't an utter weakling. > > > > Oh, like Germany > >I was talking about the US here, not the Soviet Union. Oh, and in your opinion, economic matters matter not at all I take it? The Soviet Union wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes without Lend/Lease, a significantly large fraction of their war materiel was sent from the US. Moving supplies by horse drawn carriage would not have fared well against the little mustachioed whack job from Austria. Note that this is what scared the bejesus out of Stalin after WWII, he was terrified of the US economic machine. So tell me again how it was foolish of us to send all the gear to Soviet cannon fodder so that they could die for their own country? Had the Germans pulled back before the winter, and the US not landed at Normandy, you'd be speaking German now you ungrateful SOB. From radix42 at cox.net Sat Apr 12 12:34:34 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412191746.GC14334@lug.org.uk> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> At 12:17 PM 4/12/2003, you wrote: >On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:06:56PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > > May your mother be raped by Qusay. You DO seem to like Ba'athists, I"m > > sure your family would have enjoyed living there. > >I too find that wishing rape upon my debating opponent's mother is a >sure-fire winning tactic. Would you like to co-author a paper on >the subject? Oh right, sorry, this is the Royal Debating Society, I thought for a second it was crackmonkey, where the monkeys all throw shit at each other. From andy at strugglers.net Sat Apr 12 12:39:15 2003 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030412193915.GE14334@lug.org.uk> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:34:34PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > At 12:17 PM 4/12/2003, you wrote: > >On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:06:56PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > >> May your mother be raped by Qusay. You DO seem to like Ba'athists, I"m > >> sure your family would have enjoyed living there. > > > >I too find that wishing rape upon my debating opponent's mother is a > >sure-fire winning tactic. Would you like to co-author a paper on > >the subject? > > Oh right, sorry, this is the Royal Debating Society, I thought for a second > it was crackmonkey, where the monkeys all throw shit at each other. Are you sure you just don't like the concept of mother-raping!? From jeremym at loonix.org Sat Apr 12 12:41:00 2003 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412121805.00b56510@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412121805.00b56510@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030412194100.GA26697@pug.chroot.net> On Sat Apr 12, 2003 at 12:22:14PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > Had the Germans pulled back before the winter, and the US not landed at > Normandy, you'd be speaking German now you ungrateful SOB. I seem to recall the US and Russia hitting Germany at approximately the same time. I also seem to recall Truman ordering Eisenhower to let the Russians take Berlin, which got Patton's knickers in a twist, but let us finish mopping up in western Germany before meeting the Russians at the Elbe. Notice how close to the eastern border of Germany Berlin is, and how far from the western border, and then try to tell me the it was just the Russians who 'took down Hitler'. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From radix42 at cox.net Sat Apr 12 12:44:13 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412193915.GE14334@lug.org.uk> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> At 12:39 PM 4/12/2003, you wrote: >On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:34:34PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > > At 12:17 PM 4/12/2003, you wrote: > > >On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:06:56PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > > >> May your mother be raped by Qusay. You DO seem to like Ba'athists, I"m > > >> sure your family would have enjoyed living there. > > > > > >I too find that wishing rape upon my debating opponent's mother is a > > >sure-fire winning tactic. Would you like to co-author a paper on > > >the subject? > > > > Oh right, sorry, this is the Royal Debating Society, I thought for a second > > it was crackmonkey, where the monkeys all throw shit at each other. > >Are you sure you just don't like the concept of mother-raping!? I freaking abhor it, but our dear European seems to think everything in Iraq was just dandy as it was. I was merely pointing out what it would ACTUALLY MEAN for him to walk a ways in a typical Iraqi's shoes for a while. All that is required for evil to triumph is for jaded, spoiled denizens of socialist fantasy states protected by others to do nothing. From henrik at enberg.org Sat Apr 12 13:03:53 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> (David Mercer's message of "Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:44:13 -0700") References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> David Mercer writes: > I freaking abhor it, but our dear European seems to think everything in Iraq > was just dandy as it was. You dumb cunt. No one has said that. Stop impersonating Bush, it really isn't becoming. > I was merely pointing out what it would ACTUALLY MEAN for him to walk a > ways in a typical Iraqi's shoes for a while. Everyone is quite aware of the fact that the everyday Iraqi had it tough, but killing someone to protect them from evil isn't best foot forward. > All that is required for evil to triumph is for jaded, spoiled denizens > of socialist > fantasy states protected by others to do nothing. Indeed. we ought to kill all warmongers before it's too late. From andy at strugglers.net Sat Apr 12 13:11:46 2003 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:03:53PM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > David Mercer writes: > > > I freaking abhor it, but our dear European seems to think everything in Iraq > > was just dandy as it was. > > You dumb cunt. No one has said that. Stop impersonating Bush, it > really isn't becoming. > > > I was merely pointing out what it would ACTUALLY MEAN for him to walk a > > ways in a typical Iraqi's shoes for a while. > > Everyone is quite aware of the fact that the everyday Iraqi had it > tough, but killing someone to protect them from evil isn't best foot > forward. I think david's point is that all non-american mothers need to be raped so that the rest of us are in a position to understand the crisis. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Apr 12 09:33:25 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <200304121233.25948.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Henrik Enberg's quote: | Indeed. we ought to kill all warmongers before it's too late. right. can't allow a single free person on the planet -- and in your system, there would be no one to preserve any smidgeon of freedom. fortunately, your notion will not come to pass because you coward pussyboys are too afraid even to try. which makes sense for you, because your attempt would last a very short time. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Apr 12 09:40:17 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Andy Smith's quote: | I think david's point is that all non-american mothers need to be | raped so that the rest of us are in a position to understand the | crisis. no. it is that the *only* reason you snots get to spout your fucked-up views is that better men than you are, can imagine, or god knows have hope of ever becoming have died to make that happen, and today they are fighting and some of them dying so that other people can enjoy the freedoms that you so gleefully abuse. and of course, in your sniveling cowardice, you make up all kinds of phony excuses and claim all kinds of nonexistent conspiracies, in the hope of districting others, of cloaking how much less than men deserving of the freedom you enjoy you actually are. your punishment is that you have to be you, and no matter where you go, what you say, or what you do, deep inside you know this to be true, and you cannot escape it no matter how much you jerk each other off. and you're not even worthy of pity. you richly deserve it. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From dave at zork.net Sat Apr 12 13:44:36 2003 From: dave at zork.net (Bleh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304121233.25948.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <200304121233.25948.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030412204436.GA4955@zork.net> Quothe dep , on Sat, Apr 12, 2003: > begin Henrik Enberg's quote: > > | Indeed. we ought to kill all warmongers before it's too late. > > right. can't allow a single free person on the planet -- and in your > system, there would be no one to preserve any smidgeon of freedom. > fortunately, your notion will not come to pass because you coward > pussyboys are too afraid even to try. which makes sense for you, > because your attempt would last a very short time. http://161.58.50.69/gayscape/militaryfetish.html <-- dep -- When you grow up surrounded by willful ignorance, you find that mercy has its own country, and it's big and round. --Ani DiFranco From carlos at laviola.org Sat Apr 12 13:26:03 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412121805.00b56510@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412121805.00b56510@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <20030412202602.GB13819@laviola.org> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:22:14PM -0700, David Mercer wrote: > Had the Germans pulled back before the winter, and the US not landed at > Normandy, you'd be speaking German now you ungrateful SOB. On the other hand, German is a really nice language. -- Carlos Laviola From nkj at iaminsane.com Sat Apr 12 13:56:25 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304111800.04201.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <200304111455.16966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411233024.GI16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111800.04201.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030412205625.GA11223@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 06:00:04PM -0400, dep wrote: > i was trying to understand your having learned history, as you claimed > to have done, via fare. and now i do: you're nothing more than a > fucking moron with pretentions who is crying himself to sleep each > night knowing that now you'll never have saddam jism dribbling out > your ass. You know what, you are absolutely right. Terrifying insight. - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Sat Apr 12 14:03:47 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What I love most about CM In-Reply-To: <20030412004839.GJ9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030411233636.GH9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412001508.GB2293@iaminsane.com> <20030412004839.GJ9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412210346.GB11223@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 08:48:39PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > We're the good guys. > > We do most everything better than anyone else. > > And, when riled, we are incredible bad-asses. The American Dream is just that, a DREAM - It is not sustainable. We use the majority of the worlds resources so regardless of what you THINK about the way things are right now. No matter how hard you try to pacify yourself into lazy oblivion. Nothing will change the fact that we are a wasteful and greedy nation and this must change. I don't care for terminology. I would not call myself a "liberal" per-say. I would, however, call myself an idealist. That seems to be the term used to describe people who want this country to become a self-sustaining and responsible world leader. Who's living in the dream world Bob? - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Sat Apr 12 14:09:53 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412210953.GC11223@iaminsane.com> Bob, You are a scary and unfortunately, realistic, depiction of the ignorance and self-centeredness of a majority of the citizens of this nation. I wonder if your opinion would change any if you spent 1 year living among the people in one of these middle eastern countries. Countries of which you seem to understand well enough to suggest complete annihilation. - Nick On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 09:17:34PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Here's a text dump of a page I put up in the Fall of 2001; it includes > an email to NBC Nightly News dated Sept. 19th of that year. Enjoy. > > > What Scares Me The Most > > -is the possibility that we won't have the inner resources > collectively, as a nation, to see this thing through to the end. Why, > you ask? Well, I don't hear anyone talking about what the end will > look like, and that tells me that not many of us are committed to > getting there. > > It will look like this- > > The map of the Mideast must be redrawn. There's no other way to put > it. I think we can dress it up if we need to in terms of "replacing > regimes," but look at the crap Wolfowitz had to deal with for using > the simple phrase "ending states." And what cannot be predicted is how > replacing, say, minimally, the regimes of Iraq and Afghanistan will > impact the regimes of neighboring states. The notion that we must be > careful lest we contribute to the "instability" of the region is such > monumental poppycock; what stability? No. Every Arab state that has > made a bargain with the devil in order to stave off the Islamist > threat within its own borders will have to come to grips finally, > whether this means the end of a given state, or its destruction and > rebirth. Everything is up for grabs, from Eygpt to Jordan to Iran to > Syria to Saudi Arabia. Plus of course Iraq and Afghanistan. > > Oh. Did I mention that one thing that scares me is that we are still > mired in this stupid business of "proving" a connection to Iraq? Prove > what to exactly whose satisfaction and why? When did the notions of > survival and self-defence get watered down to the point that - > apparently - those motives carry the day in only some situations and > not in others? > > Those Afghani children > > Where's the outrage you ask? > > One night in September after the attacks NBC News ran footage of > starving Afghani children. I was so enraged I sent the following to > Tom Brokaw. I stand by it 100%. > > Subject: cut the crap > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:17:46 -0400 > From: Bob Bernstein > To: nightly@nbc.com > > Let's get something straight right away: > > 1) I don't give a damn about starving Afghani children. > > 2) The US is not responsible for starving Afghani children. > > 3) Did I mention I didn't give a fuck about starving Afghani > children? > > 4) The US is not responsible for saving starving Afghani children. > > 5) I almost forgot: fuck you and anyone else who thinks I should care > about starving Afghani children. > > 6) Why not grow a pair of balls and, for every second of starving > Afghani children you air, show a second of footage of body parts > recovered from Ground Zero? > > 7) Cut the crap. You know what contributed to Tuesday? Assholes like > you who think we're the Bad Guys. Fuck off. > > 8) Given the chance, I would trade the lives of one hundred starving > Afghani children for that of ONE FUCKING NY FIREFIGHTER. > > 9) No, I don't feel guilty about any of this. > > -- > Bob Bernstein | http://www.ruptured-duck.com > at | 1024D/4A93E562 > Esmond, R.I. | 115B 8AA0 D418 F33B F0B1 > USA | 6230 8014 B8D5 4A93 E562 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Feedback? > > In answer to the many queries I've received as to whether or not Mr. > Brokaw, or anyone else at NBC news, got back to me on this, the answer > is a resounding NO. > > Excursus > > Some recent conversations have led me to believe that the feelings > expressed in the email above are not as readily understandable to some > as I would have liked to believe. Actually, there are a few > individuals whose understanding I would have appreciated but I see now > it won't be forthcoming; perhaps it is unfair of me to put them to the > test, at least it's not fair to do that without providing some benefit > of explanation. > > The explanation would be in terms of a mental experiment typically > made part of an Ethics 201 course, you know, the one where you run > into a burning building and are confronted with three people only one > of whom you can save, so who do you save and how do you provide > reasons for your choice? It's a variation on the theme of lifeboat > ethics. Who do you allow in the boat, given the fact that if everyone > gets in no one will survive since the lifeboat will sink? > > My reasons for preferring the firefighter over the one hundred > children would first be that it isn't a numbers game, that it is > completely cynical to weigh the value of lives in terms of their > quantity. So it would be the same for me if there were only two > children or one child, one starving Afghani child, and one New York > firefighter. I put the number one hundred in there for effect, to > shock the reader. > > My next reason would be deemed by many to epitomize the "atavistic" > quality of love of one's country: the firefigher is one of us. Charity > begins at home. A snooty cosmopolitanism is rapidly finding itself > totally out of place in the post-9/11 world. A fondness for the place > that has borne us through life needn't be seen as some height of > irrationalism. > > So, if I could carry ninety nine people out of that burning building, > I would take first the firefighter and then ninety eight children. Two > children I would have to leave to die. But the import of the media > cramming the visages of starving children down my throat only eight > days after the attacks touched me off, namely, that I am now supposed > to grow superhuman strength and save all one hundred and one people in > the building, and feel terrible about myself if I don't succeed. > > In the context of those first few days after the attacks, the intended > effect of covering the humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan could only > be to slow our hand in retaliation, to weaken our resolve to defend > ourselves. NBC News did nothing to explain that the best thing that > could be done for those children would be to remove, speedily, via > military action of unbridled ferocity, the Taliban from power. As a > matter of fact, that has always been my favored name for the > operation: "Operation Unbridled Ferocity." > > From The Sixties > > Everyone's asking: How did Bob get like this? > > - and the answer is still the same: Bill Clinton. I don't know why > this is so hard for folks to grasp. When our repeat sexual offender > aka President pointed his finger at the camera and uttered those words > that needn't be repeated, it set off in me the equivalent of a bad > acid flashback. Flashback to what, you ask? To the days of Johnson and > Westmoreland staring at me and lying to my face, only worse, since at > least those men had something of substance to lie about, not some > sweaty neurotic encounters that he finished off in a bathroom sink. > > Like I say, this seems beyond the pale of comprehension for many, > expecially in my family, where our liberal upbringing still largely > holds sway. My sense of the thing is that despite passing most of the > sixties in an opioid fog I had focussed sharply on the mendacity of > the administration in its wartime policies. Clearly, here was concrete > evidence of what Nietzsche must have been alluding to when he mused, > "Facts are exactly what we don't have." When it came to the war in > Vietnam the only option, besides simply opting for news sources that > were guaranteed to reinforce one's presuppositions, to provide an > emotional sop, was to spread several of any dozen or so newspapers on > the floor and try to piece together a factual account of any given > event by melding the various pages together in a mysterious ouija > board fashion. Decontructionism became a way of mental life. There was > no center that held. One dwelt in an epistemological vacuum. > > I was not going to go back there for the sake of this creep's > ejaculatory misadventures. Not for one fucking second. Something > worthwhile, namely American lives, were at stake in Nam. There was > nothing at stake in Clinton's mess that was worth even a moment's > consideration, and a man of honor would have seen that immediately and > resigned. Period. I became used to saying words to the effect, "It > will be many years before we realize the full extent of the damage > Bill Clinton has done to this country." Sadly, it took only a few > months after he departed office, that is, by September 12th all was > clear. > _________________________________________________________________ > > webmeister@sixtiessurvivor.org > > -- > Today's lexicographical term: > > "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From carlos at laviola.org Sat Apr 12 14:13:31 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:40:17PM -0400, dep wrote: > no. it is that the *only* reason you snots get to spout your fucked-up > views is that better men than you are, can imagine, or god knows have > hope of ever becoming have died to make that happen, and today they > are fighting and some of them dying so that other people can enjoy > the freedoms that you so gleefully abuse. Yeah, we see that at least ALMOST A HUNDRED US soldiers have died just so that the Iraqis can enjoy the benefits of seeing their belongings be looted by others in what can only be described as chaos. But that's cool, the oil is secure and no one gives a flying fuck if the US aren't doing the security of the sovereign state they've invaded like they are obliged to by a convention that it has entered voluntarily. God bless America. -- Carlos Laviola From henrik at enberg.org Sat Apr 12 14:29:26 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304121233.25948.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep@linuxandmain.com's message of "Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:33:25 -0400") References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <200304121233.25948.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <87brzbz9op.fsf@enberg.org> dep writes: > begin Henrik Enberg's quote: > > | Indeed. we ought to kill all warmongers before it's too late. > > right. can't allow a single free person on the planet -- and in your > system, there would be no one to preserve any smidgeon of freedom. Something tells me you don't have a smidgeon of self-insight. > fortunately, your notion will not come to pass because you coward > pussyboys are too afraid even to try. which makes sense for you, > because your attempt would last a very short time. If dep had been born in Saudi, he would have made Mohammed Atta unemplyed. All the power-mongers of the world must really appreciate the useful idiot cowards like him. Without them, they would have to get a job. From nick at zork.net Sat Apr 12 14:36:18 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20030412213617.GG18790@zork.net> Fuck, that twit was still here? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- chris@dibona.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 14:52:30 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org>; from carlos@laviola.org on Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 17:13:31 -0400 References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Oh please... the looting is almost exclussively of Government Offices but don't let any facts ubstruct your world view. We should put Saddam back!!! That would make you happy.. On 2003.04.12 17:13 Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:40:17PM -0400, dep wrote: > > no. it is that the *only* reason you snots get to spout your fucked-up > > views is that better men than you are, can imagine, or god knows have > > hope of ever becoming have died to make that happen, and today they > > are fighting and some of them dying so that other people can enjoy > > the freedoms that you so gleefully abuse. > > Yeah, we see that at least ALMOST A HUNDRED US soldiers have died just > so that the Iraqis can enjoy the benefits of seeing their belongings be > looted by others in what can only be described as chaos. But that's > cool, the oil is secure and no one gives a flying fuck if the US aren't > doing the security of the sovereign state they've invaded like they are > obliged to by a convention that it has entered voluntarily. > > God bless America. > > -- > Carlos Laviola > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 14:55:48 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412210953.GC11223@iaminsane.com>; from nkj@iaminsane.com on Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 17:09:53 -0400 References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412210953.GC11223@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030412175548.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I might do that if they let Jews in the country. I had to change my military ID to Luthern when I was there, before they'd let me in. Thank God, with the help of American Forces, that's changing. No Blood for OIL!!! Democratized the Middle East Now regardless of the negitive consequences to the French and Russian Oil Supply! Ruben On 2003.04.12 17:09 Nick Jennings wrote: > Bob, You are a scary and unfortunately, realistic, depiction of the > ignorance and self-centeredness of a majority of the citizens of this > nation. > > I wonder if your opinion would change any if you spent 1 year living > among the people in one of these middle eastern countries. Countries of > which you seem to understand well enough to suggest complete annihilation. > > - Nick > > > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 15:02:21 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org>; from henrik@enberg.org on Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 16:03:53 -0400 References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030412180221.G16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> > Everyone is quite aware of the fact that the everyday Iraqi had it > tough, but killing someone to protect them from evil isn't best foot > forward. > Says who? ALL the Iraqi's were killed? Is that what your saying? Or are you saying the loss of life which is taking place now to free the country and remake the political map of the middle east is an unacceptable trade? If your saying that this action was an unacceptable loss of life, your flat out wrong. Ten times more deaths would have been acceptable in the face of the politcal problems spinning out of control in the middle east and nearly 20% of the country already tortured and killed in Iraq under the toletalterian repression it was formly suffering from. Ruben -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Apr 12 15:08:47 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412180221.G16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412124208.026c7dd0@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412180221.G16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030412220847.GH18790@zork.net> Okay, so you guys bagged the big one. Your big goofy Iraq trolls caught you the biggest billy goat gruff, and his name is Rubn. You win. You can die happy now. Shutting up time! -- end From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Apr 12 15:20:07 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412175548.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412210953.GC11223@iaminsane.com> <20030412175548.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030412222007.GC2871@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Ruben I Safir (ruben@mrbrklyn.com): > I might do that if they let Jews in the country. I had to change my > military ID to Luthern when I was there, before they'd let me in. Landsman! (Note: I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Xtian party, personally. However, the family tree's full of 'em.) > No Blood for OIL!!! Democratized the Middle East Now regardless of > the negitive consequences to the French and Russian Oil Supply! Well, I'd personally have preferred for us to do this starting with trebucheting BushCo's buddies the Saudi fratboys and their Wahhabi henchmen out of the Arabian Peninsula, rather than getting embroiled in Iraq. -- Cheers, I've been suffering death by PowerPoint, recently. Rick Moen -- Huw Davies rick@linuxmafia.com From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 15:22:05 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org>; from henrik@enberg.org on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 12:05:35 -0400 References: <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <87u1d5muhu.fsf@enberg.org> <20030411063527.GC7403@localhost.localdomain> <87ptntnho0.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030412182205.M16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> No - it was to ave the Russian and Frenhc Oil Supplies! > > Next you're gonna tell me how the great white christian hope GWB > actually did go to war for truth and justice. > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From carlos at laviola.org Sat Apr 12 15:25:26 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 05:52:30PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > the looting is almost exclussively of Government Offices > but don't let any facts ubstruct your world view. So you say "almost exclussively", and then "facts"? Interesting. I'm still with all of the "almosts" whose belongings have been stolen by the looters. The United States have a DUTY to provide security for the Iraqi PEOPLE, not Iraq's oil wells. -- Carlos Laviola From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 15:26:02 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: ; from crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 16:42:06 -0400 References: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412182602.O16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I know it's hard for you dwim-witted peaceniks to understand this and it gives you a headache to think about it, but Bush you can vote against and didn't kill 20% of his nation, or support terorrism. But SADDAM DID. If you don't LIKE Bush, vote against him, but if you don't like Saddam, get behind tank and be prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice for your priniples. Ruben On 2003.04.11 16:42 #2 of Berkeley wrote: > On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > No. Saddam Hussein is clearly the great force for truth and justice in > > that part of the world. > > I know sometimes conservatives get headaches when they try to understand > this, but not everything in life is either/or. A person, for example, > could dislike Saddam Hussein AND ALSO dislike George Bush. A person or > country could also not be with the White House and not be with the > terrorists at the same time. > > If this concept makes you dizzy, stop reading, get a glass of water, and > go back to the safety of Ann Coulter. > > > > -- > "Either you have an orange dick or you have a steering wheel attached to > your crotch." > --Ben Franklin > > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 15:33:32 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: ; from crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 18:01:01 -0400 References: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412183332.Q16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Oh Sure! And let 160 depresate genocidal maniacs make all the decisions. Ben Fraklin:We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. > The UN would be a great deal more useful if we eliminated the veto > in the Security Council, among other things. Unfortunately, The U.S. has > lobbied hard against that. > > -- > "There was never a good war or a bad peace." > --Ben Franklin > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 15:37:07 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: ; from crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 18:01:01 -0400 References: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412183707.S16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Those who give up liberty for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security. Ben Franklin On 2003.04.11 18:01 #2 of Berkeley wrote: > -- > "There was never a good war or a bad peace." > --Ben Franklin > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 15:40:37 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: ; from crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 18:01:01 -0400 References: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412184037.U16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> More Ben Franklin The Rattlesnake as a Symbol of America I observed on one of the drums belonging to the marines now raising, there was painted a Rattle-Snake, with this modest motto under it, "Don't tread on me." As I know it is the custom to have some device on the arms of every country, I supposed this may have been intended for the arms of America; and as I have nothing to do with public affairs, and as my time is perfectly my own, in order to divert an idle hour, I sat down to guess what could have been intended by this uncommon device ? I took care, however, to consult on this occasion a person who is acquainted with heraldry, from whom I learned, that it is a rule among the learned of that science "That the worthy properties of the animal, in the crest-born, shall be considered," and, "That the base ones cannot have been intended;" he likewise informed me that the ancients considered the serpent as an emblem of wisdom, and in a certain attitude of endless duration ? both which circumstances I suppose may have been had in view. Having gained this intelligence, and recollecting that countries are sometimes represented by animals peculiar to them, it occurred to me that the Rattle-Snake is found in no other quarter of the world besides America, and may therefore have been chosen, on that account, to represent her. But then "the worldly properties" of a Snake I judged would be hard to point out. This rather raised than suppressed my curiosity, and having frequently seen the Rattle-Snake, I ran over in my mind every property by which she was distinguished, not only from other animals, but from those of the same genus or class of animals, endeavoring to fix some meaning to each, not wholly inconsistent with common sense. I recollected that her eye excelled in brightness, that of any other animal, and that she has no eye-lids. She may therefore be esteemed an emblem of vigilance. She never begins an attack, nor, when once engaged, ever surrenders: She is therefore an emblem of magnanimity and true courage. As if anxious to prevent all pretensions of quarreling with her, the weapons with which nature has furnished her, she conceals in the roof of her mouth, so that, to those who are unacquainted with her, she appears to be a most defenseless animal; and even when those weapons are shown and extended for her defense, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal. Conscious of this, she never wounds 'till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her. Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America? The poison of her teeth is the necessary means of digesting her food, and at the same time is certain destruction to her enemies. This may be understood to intimate that those things which are destructive to our enemies, may be to us not only harmless, but absolutely necessary to our existence. I confess I was wholly at a loss what to make of the rattles, 'till I went back and counted them and found them just thirteen, exactly the number of the Colonies united in America; and I recollected too that this was the only part of the Snake which increased in numbers. Perhaps it might be only fancy, but, I conceited the painter had shown a half formed additional rattle, which, I suppose, may have been intended to represent the province of Canada. 'Tis curious and amazing to observe how distinct and independent of each other the rattles of this animal are, and yet how firmly they are united together, so as never to be separated but by breaking them to pieces. One of those rattles singly, is incapable of producing sound, but the ringing of thirteen together, is sufficient to alarm the boldest man living. The Rattle-Snake is solitary, and associates with her kind only when it is necessary for their preservation. In winter, the warmth of a number together will preserve their lives, while singly, they would probably perish. The power of fascination attributed to her, by a generous construction, may be understood to mean, that those who consider the liberty and blessings which America affords, and once come over to her, never afterwards leave her, but spend their lives with her. She strongly resembles America in this, that she is beautiful in youth and her beauty increaseth with her age, "her tongue also is blue and forked as the lightning, and her abode is among impenetrable rocks." > -- > "There was never a good war or a bad peace." > --Ben Franklin > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From andy at strugglers.net Sat Apr 12 15:46:14 2003 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030412183707.S16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412183707.S16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030412224614.GH14334@lug.org.uk> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 06:37:07PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > Those who give up liberty for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security. Those whose mothers have not been raped are mere european peaceniks with bad cars. From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 15:49:02 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: ; from crackdonkey@donkeyshow.org on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 18:01:01 -0400 References: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030412184902.W16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> More Ben Fraklin * They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety... * Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature. * This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. * ...it is a common observation here that our cause is the cause of all mankind, and that we are fighting for their liberty in defending our own. * Where liberty dwells, there is my country. * ...a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles ...is absolutely necessary to preserve the blessings of liberty and keep a government free. * Without freedom of thought there can be no such thing as wisdom; and no such thing as public liberty, without freedom of speech. * Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech. * When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. * Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. * Sell not...liberty to purchase power. * In free governments, the rulers are the servants and the people their superiors and sovereigns. * Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. * I hope...that all mankind will at length, as they call themselves reasonable creatures, have reason and sense enough to settle their differences without cutting throats; for in my opinion there never was a good war or a bad peace. * Men will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants. * Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. * > -- > "There was never a good war or a bad peace." > --Ben Franklin > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 15:55:53 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411233024.GI16731@iaminsane.com>; from nkj@iaminsane.com on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 19:30:24 -0400 References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <200304111423.15677.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411223806.GG16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111455.16966.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411233024.GI16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030412185553.Y16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> You've been reading the wrong books. There not all equal. Ruben > Books are easier to understand usually, and I trust the fact that > with most books, pent up aggression 'tword ones profession has been > painstakingly edited out. This is not the case with cabbies. > > > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Apr 12 16:02:03 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:23 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030412184902.W16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412184902.W16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030412230203.GJ18790@zork.net> begin Rubn I Safir quotation: > More Ben Fraklin Are you a vegetarian? He was. -- end From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 16:00:41 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com>; from nkj@iaminsane.com on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 17:51:03 -0400 References: <200304101840.h3AIeYPR002524@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> > The UN mandated embargo on Iraq has been enforced predominately by > US-British forces, including "no-fly" zones and monthly bombings of > Iraq positions for many years. > > As recently as 1999 & 2000 talks were in progress about the steps which > need to be taken in order to suspend the sanctions on Iraq. The main > order of compliance being to cooperate with UN inspectors. Which they > have been doing for several months now, BOING - WRONG > yet still we insist they > are hiding "Weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION", like what? Bombs made of dirty > hypodermic needles that they've been using for years? ... scary. > Now ask yourself this? Why was the embarog started. Why did it fail? And then ask yourself why children were starving in Iraq BEFORE the embargo. > So tell me Bob, how come all of a sudden Iraq is a threat to us > and what does this have to do with our "War against Terrorism" ? > Answer - He was always a threat. It would have just been better to do something about it BEFORE. But we only have the present. Ruben -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 16:07:02 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412222007.GC2871@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 18:20:07 -0400 References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412210953.GC11223@iaminsane.com> <20030412175548.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222007.GC2871@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20030412190702.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Nah Now that we've nailed Iraq and are ready to to that into a Free Nation, we can manage the Saudi's in a bloodless political action. They're on the short list also.... Not attacking Iraq would still leave the genocidal maniac sitting on his thron funding his terorist war against us with Russian and French bood money On 2003.04.12 18:20 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Ruben I Safir (ruben@mrbrklyn.com): > > > I might do that if they let Jews in the country. I had to change my > > military ID to Luthern when I was there, before they'd let me in. > > Landsman! > > (Note: I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Xtian > party, personally. However, the family tree's full of 'em.) > > > No Blood for OIL!!! Democratized the Middle East Now regardless of > > the negitive consequences to the French and Russian Oil Supply! > > Well, I'd personally have preferred for us to do this starting with > trebucheting BushCo's buddies the Saudi fratboys and their Wahhabi > henchmen out of the Arabian Peninsula, rather than getting embroiled in > Iraq. > > -- > Cheers, I've been suffering death by PowerPoint, recently. > Rick Moen -- Huw Davies > rick@linuxmafia.com > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 16:14:41 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org>; from carlos@laviola.org on Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 18:25:26 -0400 References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> That's your opinion. Not mine The oil wells need to be secured because of the ecological disaster of them being set on fire. I'm not for opening fire on Iraqi civilians for looting Government Palaces. Your position is morally repugnant. We should fire on Iraqi Civilians and allow a ecological disaster.. Screw You. Ruben On 2003.04.12 18:25 Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 05:52:30PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > the looting is almost exclussively of Government Offices > > but don't let any facts ubstruct your world view. > > So you say "almost exclussively", and then "facts"? Interesting. I'm > still with all of the "almosts" whose belongings have been stolen by the > looters. The United States have a DUTY to provide security for the > Iraqi PEOPLE, not Iraq's oil wells. > > -- > Carlos Laviola > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 16:16:19 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030412230203.GJ18790@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 19:02:03 -0400 References: <20030411212007.GC9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412184902.W16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412230203.GJ18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030412191619.G16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> No I eat Iraqi On 2003.04.12 19:02 Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Rubn I Safir quotation: > > More Ben Fraklin > > Are you a vegetarian? He was. > > -- > > end > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Apr 12 16:19:25 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030412231925.GK18790@zork.net> begin Rubn I Safir quotation: > That's your opinion. > > Not mine You, however, are not entitled to your opinions. -- end From nick at zork.net Sat Apr 12 16:50:44 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030412235044.GL18790@zork.net> Trust me. You don't want to be here. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- sderrick@pilosoft.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From carlos at laviola.org Sat Apr 12 17:42:50 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:00:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > And then ask yourself why children were starving in Iraq BEFORE the embargo. That's funny. I suppose the US should attack and annex all countries with starving children. We all know how capitalism solved that one at least a hundred years ago, so it's time that everyone gets with the program. -- Carlos Laviola From carlos at laviola.org Sat Apr 12 17:54:26 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:14:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > The oil wells need to be secured because of the ecological disaster > of them being set on fire. That's the most hilarious thing I've listened all week. However, since you're into avoiding disasters, then I'm sure you'll agree with me that the looting of the National Museum of Iraq, considered by The New York Times "(...) one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent Middle Eastern history". Allow me to quote them when they say that this was also "what is likely to be reckoned as one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent Middle Eastern history". Now you can see all of that for yourself at http://archives.nytimes.com/2003/04/12/international/worldspecial/12CND-BAGH.html And I shall ask you now if you still think the US troops should not have secured the place properly. Sometimes you do not need to fire at somebody to keep them out, you know. Just occupying the place would do. > I'm not for opening fire on Iraqi civilians for looting Government > Palaces. Neither am I. I would, on the other hand, appreciate it if the United States of America respected Chapter 8, Paragraph 3, Chapter 1 of the Geneva Convention's treaty, which reads: "The representatives or delegates of the Protecting Powers shall not in any case exceed their mission under the present Convention. They shall, in particular, take account of the imperative necessities of security of the State wherein they carry out their duties. Their activities shall only be restricted as an exceptional and temporary measure when this is rendered necessary by imperative military necessities." As per http://www.asociety.com/geneva1.html and, well, everywhere that has the Geneva Convention online. As for the rest of your petty insults, I'm better off not replying to them. -- Carlos Laviola From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Apr 12 18:12:54 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030412235044.GL18790@zork.net> References: <20030412235044.GL18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030413011254.GA16627@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 04:50:44PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Trust me. You don't want to be here. Not in this HELLHOLE. Who started this fucking "why is this not spam" thread anyway? -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 18:29:34 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030413012934.GA18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I have read the reports and talked to friends deployed in the field. Your just too stupid to understand what it means when 100 million galeons of oil is burning per hour. Moron On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:54:26PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:14:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > The oil wells need to be secured because of the ecological disaster > > of them being set on fire. > > That's the most hilarious thing I've listened all week. However, since > you're into avoiding disasters, then I'm sure you'll agree with me that > the looting of the National Museum of Iraq, considered by The New York > Times "(...) one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent Middle > Eastern history". Allow me to quote them when they say that this was > also "what is likely to be reckoned as one of the greatest cultural > disasters in recent Middle Eastern history". > > Now you can see all of that for yourself at > http://archives.nytimes.com/2003/04/12/international/worldspecial/12CND-BAGH.html > > And I shall ask you now if you still think the US troops should not have > secured the place properly. Sometimes you do not need to fire at > somebody to keep them out, you know. Just occupying the place would do. > > > I'm not for opening fire on Iraqi civilians for looting Government > > Palaces. > > Neither am I. I would, on the other hand, appreciate it if the United > States of America respected Chapter 8, Paragraph 3, Chapter 1 of the Geneva > Convention's treaty, which reads: > > "The representatives or delegates of the Protecting Powers shall not in > any case exceed their mission under the present Convention. They shall, > in particular, take account of the imperative necessities of security of > the State wherein they carry out their duties. Their activities shall > only be restricted as an exceptional and temporary measure when this is > rendered necessary by imperative military necessities." > > As per http://www.asociety.com/geneva1.html and, well, everywhere that > has the Geneva Convention online. > > As for the rest of your petty insults, I'm better off not replying to > them. > > -- > Carlos Laviola > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 18:30:59 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Your better off not replying at all. You get more stupid with every post... Sure - be afraid to make any adhomun attacks on Crack Monkey Ruben On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:54:26PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:14:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > The oil wells need to be secured because of the ecological disaster > > of them being set on fire. > > That's the most hilarious thing I've listened all week. However, since > you're into avoiding disasters, then I'm sure you'll agree with me that > the looting of the National Museum of Iraq, considered by The New York > Times "(...) one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent Middle > Eastern history". Allow me to quote them when they say that this was > also "what is likely to be reckoned as one of the greatest cultural > disasters in recent Middle Eastern history". > > Now you can see all of that for yourself at > http://archives.nytimes.com/2003/04/12/international/worldspecial/12CND-BAGH.html > > And I shall ask you now if you still think the US troops should not have > secured the place properly. Sometimes you do not need to fire at > somebody to keep them out, you know. Just occupying the place would do. > > > I'm not for opening fire on Iraqi civilians for looting Government > > Palaces. > > Neither am I. I would, on the other hand, appreciate it if the United > States of America respected Chapter 8, Paragraph 3, Chapter 1 of the Geneva > Convention's treaty, which reads: > > "The representatives or delegates of the Protecting Powers shall not in > any case exceed their mission under the present Convention. They shall, > in particular, take account of the imperative necessities of security of > the State wherein they carry out their duties. Their activities shall > only be restricted as an exceptional and temporary measure when this is > rendered necessary by imperative military necessities." > > As per http://www.asociety.com/geneva1.html and, well, everywhere that > has the Geneva Convention online. > > As for the rest of your petty insults, I'm better off not replying to > them. > > -- > Carlos Laviola > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 18:32:10 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030413013210.GC18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I'm sure if you think it, I disagree Are you on the payroll of Saddam Husien? Ruben On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:54:26PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:14:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > The oil wells need to be secured because of the ecological disaster > > of them being set on fire. > > That's the most hilarious thing I've listened all week. However, since > you're into avoiding disasters, then I'm sure you'll agree with me that > the looting of the National Museum of Iraq, considered by The New York > Times "(...) one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent Middle > Eastern history". Allow me to quote them when they say that this was > also "what is likely to be reckoned as one of the greatest cultural > disasters in recent Middle Eastern history". > > Now you can see all of that for yourself at > http://archives.nytimes.com/2003/04/12/international/worldspecial/12CND-BAGH.html > > And I shall ask you now if you still think the US troops should not have > secured the place properly. Sometimes you do not need to fire at > somebody to keep them out, you know. Just occupying the place would do. > > > I'm not for opening fire on Iraqi civilians for looting Government > > Palaces. > > Neither am I. I would, on the other hand, appreciate it if the United > States of America respected Chapter 8, Paragraph 3, Chapter 1 of the Geneva > Convention's treaty, which reads: > > "The representatives or delegates of the Protecting Powers shall not in > any case exceed their mission under the present Convention. They shall, > in particular, take account of the imperative necessities of security of > the State wherein they carry out their duties. Their activities shall > only be restricted as an exceptional and temporary measure when this is > rendered necessary by imperative military necessities." > > As per http://www.asociety.com/geneva1.html and, well, everywhere that > has the Geneva Convention online. > > As for the rest of your petty insults, I'm better off not replying to > them. > > -- > Carlos Laviola > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Apr 12 18:36:19 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030413011254.GA16627@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030412235044.GL18790@zork.net> <20030413011254.GA16627@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030413013619.GN18790@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > Who started this fucking "why is this not spam" thread anyway? Does it matter? You're the one who trolled it into utter unreadability. -- end From nick at zork.net Sat Apr 12 18:44:51 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] sweet spam headers Message-ID: <20030413014451.GO18790@zork.net> From: "Hitler-bush" Subject: Helping You Get a Mortgage Loan... -- end From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 18:56:32 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030413015632.GA18451@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Dear traitor to the American People and the World.... On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:54:26PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:14:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > The oil wells need to be secured because of the ecological disaster > > of them being set on fire. > > That's the most hilarious thing I've listened all week. If you thing that's funny, you would have Loved the Exxon Valdez and Chernobel > the looting of the National Museum of Iraq, Yeah - that's right up there with the damage to the environment caused by a thousand burning oil wells, moron. After all, it tool almost TWO YEARS to put them out in Kuiawt. What do you care when all those little children die of black lung disease and as evironment patterns change because of a man made distaster. > considered by The New York > Times "(...) FUCK THE TIMES.... a more biased rag has never been published. They've continually looked like schmucks the entire reporting cycle. THeir major contribution has been moving all their IT infrastructure outside of NYC dead Zone incase of a nuclear attack. That speaks louder about their REAL feelings on things then this bullshit you dredged from the rumor mill. Let me tell you the real news, bubby. 6 months from now nobody will remember any looting of the museum, let alone consider it 'one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent middle east history' > And I shall ask you now if you still think the US troops should not have > secured the place properly. You already asked. Is it your listening skills or your hearing which is defective. I DON'T CARE and neither does anyone else. I CARE TO FINISH THE WAR as fast as possible. > > > I'm not for opening fire on Iraqi civilians for looting Government > > Palaces. > > Neither am I. Lier Lier Pants on fire.... >>I would, on the other hand, appreciate it if the United > States of America respected Chapter 8, Paragraph 3, Chapter 1 of the Geneva > Convention's treaty, which reads: File a grievence with the French > As for the rest of your petty insults, I'm better off not replying to > them. > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From henrik at enberg.org Sat Apr 12 19:01:45 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413012934.GA18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> (Ruben Safir's message of "Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:29:34 -0400") References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413012934.GA18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <87he93i29i.fsf@enberg.org> Ruben Safir writes: > I have read the reports and talked to friends deployed in the > field. I'm surprised you have any friends the way you carry on. From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 19:00:07 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:42:50PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:00:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > And then ask yourself why children were starving in Iraq BEFORE the embargo. > > That's funny. I suppose the US should attack and annex all countries > with starving children. That would not be a bad idea if they have homcidal maniacs at the helm. Alas - there are limits on our resources.... For now, we'll have to be happy with Iraq, and possibly Syria. But we're keeping an eye on North Korea. Ruben -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 19:29:02 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87he93i29i.fsf@enberg.org> References: <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413012934.GA18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <87he93i29i.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030413022902.GA19012@www2.mrbrklyn.com> As long as my friends aren't yours.. On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 04:01:45AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > Ruben Safir writes: > > > I have read the reports and talked to friends deployed in the > > field. > > I'm surprised you have any friends the way you carry on. > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 19:29:52 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <87y92f68ry.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87y92f68ry.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030413022952.GB19012@www2.mrbrklyn.com> How to make friends and influence people .... > > Yes, we all know that due to the low level of civilisation in the US, > you twits only understand violence, in a Neanderthal kind of way. > > Too bad you dudes get your ass kicked every time you jump someone that > isn't an utter weakling. > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Apr 12 19:44:15 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Bogo pollution Message-ID: <20030413024415.GA10843@callisto.jtan.com> Hmmm...it dawns on me that Ruben may be unduly contaminating my bogofilter good word list: $ bogoutil -d .bogofilter/goodlist.db | grep brk mrbrklyn.com 23 20030412 www.mrbrklyn.com 21 20030412 www2.mrbrklyn.com 30 20030412 Maybe instead of returning two- or three-state values, bogofilter should return, say, 'ham, spam, unsure, ruben', or some such arrangement? -- Bob Bernstein From nkj at iaminsane.com Sat Apr 12 21:55:56 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413045556.GA27405@iaminsane.com> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:00:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > The UN mandated embargo on Iraq has been enforced predominately by > > US-British forces, including "no-fly" zones and monthly bombings of > > Iraq positions for many years. > > > > As recently as 1999 & 2000 talks were in progress about the steps which > > need to be taken in order to suspend the sanctions on Iraq. The main > > order of compliance being to cooperate with UN inspectors. Which they > > have been doing for several months now, > > > BOING - WRONG Wow, I stand corrected obviously. - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Sat Apr 12 21:58:33 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:00:07PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > That would not be a bad idea if they have homcidal maniacs at the helm. Great lets start with the US then. > Alas - there are limits on our resources.... > > For now, we'll have to be happy with Iraq, and possibly Syria. > > But we're keeping an eye on North Korea. You say "we" as if: 1. You actually KNOW what the fuck is going on, and what the motives are for what the US is doing, which you most assuredly don't. 2. You actually have some say it what "we" do, which you don't. - Nick From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Apr 12 22:09:24 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> secure Kh-11 INSCOM PGP undercover Firefly encryption beanpole NORAD enemy of the state nuclear Centro number key threat cracking On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:58:33PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: supercomputer fraud NSA bootleg bce SEAL Team 6 number key Crowell ASDIC Albright sweep Agfa White House fissionable computer terrorism > 1. You actually KNOW what the fuck is going on, and what the motives > are for what the US is doing, which you most assuredly don't. Ooo. Creepy creepy creepy. Spooky stuff all over the place. Creepy. AGT. AMME cybercash undercover CESID Belknap freedom monarchist Adriatic [Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance] advisors president Qaddafi SSL arrangements world domination > 2. You actually have some say it what "we" do, which you don't. Ooo. Creepy creepy creepy. Spooky stuff all over the place. Creepy. illuminati constitution Bosnia quiche industrial intelligence Treasury electronic surveillance BCCI assassinate Waco, Texas BATF Pine Gap eternity server global Verisign Nick: You're among friends. You're in a safe place. We're going to take care of you. Is there anyone call to let them know you're here, and prabably will be here at least sixty days per the court order? Here, take this it'll make you feel better. -- Bob Bernstein From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Apr 12 22:13:55 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413045556.GA27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045556.GA27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413051355.GQ18790@zork.net> begin Nick Jennings quotation: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:00:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > BOING - WRONG > > Wow, I stand corrected obviously. DOllars to doughnuts you were sitting down. -- end From nkj at iaminsane.com Sat Apr 12 22:38:06 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> I can't believe you actually spent time writing this email. On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:09:24AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > secure Kh-11 INSCOM PGP undercover Firefly encryption beanpole NORAD > enemy of the state nuclear Centro number key threat cracking > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:58:33PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > supercomputer fraud NSA bootleg bce SEAL Team 6 number key Crowell > ASDIC Albright sweep Agfa White House fissionable computer terrorism > > > 1. You actually KNOW what the fuck is going on, and what the motives > > are for what the US is doing, which you most assuredly don't. > > Ooo. Creepy creepy creepy. Spooky stuff all over the place. Creepy. > > AGT. AMME cybercash undercover CESID Belknap freedom monarchist > Adriatic [Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance] > advisors president Qaddafi SSL arrangements world domination > > > 2. You actually have some say it what "we" do, which you don't. > > Ooo. Creepy creepy creepy. Spooky stuff all over the place. Creepy. > > illuminati constitution Bosnia quiche industrial intelligence Treasury > electronic surveillance BCCI assassinate Waco, Texas BATF Pine Gap > eternity server global Verisign > > Nick: You're among friends. You're in a safe place. We're going to > take care of you. Is there anyone call to let them know you're here, > and prabably will be here at least sixty days per the court order? > Here, take this it'll make you feel better. > > -- > Bob Bernstein > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Apr 12 22:36:30 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413053630.GR18790@zork.net> begin Nick Jennings quotation: > I can't believe you actually spent time writing this email. There we go! The more "you're a moron" mail we get, and the less "my political crackpot viewpoint is better than yours because of these seven pages of special pleading", the better this list is! -- end From carlos at laviola.org Sat Apr 12 22:48:32 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413054832.GA21212@laviola.org> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:38:06PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > I can't believe you actually spent time writing this email. http://www.google.com/search?q=echelon%20generator -- Carlos Laviola From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Apr 12 22:51:45 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:38:06PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > I can't believe you actually spent time writing this email. I can't believe you don't how to use M-x spook. -- Bob Bernstein From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Apr 12 22:58:17 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030413055817.GS18790@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:38:06PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > I can't believe you actually spent time writing this email. > > I can't believe you don't how to use M-x spook. This with my hands. But now. The community contact, the event might get MS PR. This information: it will have deployed in this all know, and in that many (an illegal monopoly at all their first writing this was nothing more much of balls and American government to understand this stupid). Brett. The other hand held more right Before we are sometimes you can keep them virtually every reporter will represent the net Mr. Don't you have read between in getting back to exclaim, ohmy God and they are. I still the following the user (Monkey no really a). Don J. Thank you so much energy and havce the one of. Ruben. Good luck in the Hey Bob Bernstein's quote them? Microsoft had than the largest instruement of bloatware, where Beethoven etc I want To support updates, modifications and I used the other hand (and other antitrust activity and trouble the animal's first wm To Go and assume legal right effectively at somebody to the incident comes in look good work promoting freedom of you dizzy stop the mailing be unsubscribe e mail notice from his messenger He still absolutely not only determined that They have hope: that it's hard to be no time). Thing with facts are, exactly the Peanut Gallery, while differences multimedia players, to show cause your efforts of murdering tens of the greatest cultural disasters in ha yourself, as by bogofilter good war for the settlement: even. Begin dep's quote. That people yes, I haze you know wtf? In Brooklyn and propetary Software Foundations development, and explain The negitive consequences To in the and a halt, doing for what? Internet to you today I do both of Iraq! Then I'm working she wants! Could use, in winter, the government. If we are the STAKEHOLDERS tears, but I knew that. There is a blatant bribe you don't have to people and it is justifiable. I cache thought I didn't give up, to have all don't tell when did I have to to stave off their not deserve the General public private event from around. Nordin's area of Brooklyn, Linux Solutions: DRM; is distribution? Just go watch the propaganda was actully more What it that denies Microsoft's presence; is being to be used to commercially promote Free Software administrators? -- end From nkj at iaminsane.com Sat Apr 12 23:05:54 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:51:45AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:38:06PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > I can't believe you actually spent time writing this email. > > I can't believe you don't how to use M-x spook. Yeah, exactly, I don't know how to use it. It's too complicated for me. Now let me get back to my Red Sox game and my FOX NEWS saturday night movie, Gulf War 2: With Avengance! - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Sat Apr 12 23:20:50 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413051355.GQ18790@zork.net> References: <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045556.GA27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413051355.GQ18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030413062050.GE27405@iaminsane.com> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:13:55PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Nick Jennings quotation: > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:00:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > BOING - WRONG > > > > Wow, I stand corrected obviously. > > DOllars to doughnuts you were sitting down. Actually, when I wrote that I was kneeling on the floor masturbating with a scarf tied around my neck, but that would've made for a much longer (and therefore less affective) sentence. - Nick From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sat Apr 12 23:17:00 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 11:05:54PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > Now let me get back to my Red Sox game and my FOX NEWS saturday > night movie, Gulf War 2: With Avengance! Oh yeah sure, you're a Sox fan. Yeah right. Pull that one and a half inch diameter styrene dowel OUT OF YOUR ASS, and then maybe you could tolerate actually sitting down and watching a ball game. Just my opinion Lord knows ianal. -- Bob Bernstein From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 23:46:55 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Let's start with you Nick. I think this thread justifies an investigation into war crimes by you for supporting a genocidal criminal. Are you giving aid and comfort to the facist government of Iraq? Ruben On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:58:33PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:00:07PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > That would not be a bad idea if they have homcidal maniacs at the helm. > > Great lets start with the US then. > > > Alas - there are limits on our resources.... > > > > For now, we'll have to be happy with Iraq, and possibly Syria. > > > > But we're keeping an eye on North Korea. > > You say "we" as if: > > 1. You actually KNOW what the fuck is going on, and what the motives > are for what the US is doing, which you most assuredly don't. > > 2. You actually have some say it what "we" do, which you don't. > > - Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 23:47:48 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413045556.GA27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045556.GA27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413064748.GB25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Glad to see you've finally begun to pull out the smelling salts. You've obviously been under the influence of Dr No. Ruben On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:55:56PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:00:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > > > The UN mandated embargo on Iraq has been enforced predominately by > > > US-British forces, including "no-fly" zones and monthly bombings of > > > Iraq positions for many years. > > > > > > As recently as 1999 & 2000 talks were in progress about the steps which > > > need to be taken in order to suspend the sanctions on Iraq. The main > > > order of compliance being to cooperate with UN inspectors. Which they > > > have been doing for several months now, > > > > > > BOING - WRONG > > Wow, I stand corrected obviously. > > - Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sat Apr 12 23:54:33 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413065433.GC25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I say WE as in WE THE PEOPLE Although I do know what is going on... Thanks for playing ... "Save that Nazi" Next on your local BBC station is the fameous reality series "Find that Nuke" the game show where we get members of the UN running around looking for weapons of Mass destruction in any of Iran, North Korea, or Pakastan. Participants need to overcome starvation, secret police, and Orwellian Good Speak before San Fransico is Nuked. Winners Live. Loosers Die. > > You say "we" as if: > > 1. You actually KNOW what the fuck is going on, and what the motives > are for what the US is doing, which you most assuredly don't. > > 2. You actually have some say it what "we" do, which you don't. > > - Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From apost at recalcitrant.org Sun Apr 13 01:19:47 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030413011254.GA16627@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030412235044.GL18790@zork.net> <20030413011254.GA16627@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030413081947.GN16239@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030412 18:21]: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 04:50:44PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > Trust me. You don't want to be here. > > Not in this HELLHOLE. > > Who started this fucking "why is this not spam" thread anyway? Some warbot. http://explodingdog.com/january2/itsawarbot.html From nkj at iaminsane.com Sun Apr 13 02:07:11 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:17:00AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 11:05:54PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > Now let me get back to my Red Sox game and my FOX NEWS saturday > > night movie, Gulf War 2: With Avengance! > > Oh yeah sure, you're a Sox fan. Yeah right. Pull that one and a half > inch diameter styrene dowel OUT OF YOUR ASS, and then maybe you could > tolerate actually sitting down and watching a ball game. Just my > opinion Lord knows ianal. Man, it's all about the A's and the styrene dowel up my ass does NOT effect my opinion in any way. - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Sun Apr 13 02:11:22 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413091122.GG27405@iaminsane.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:46:55AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > Let's start with you Nick. > > I think this thread justifies an investigation into war crimes > by you for supporting a genocidal criminal. Are you giving aid and comfort > to the facist government of Iraq? Yes, yes I am. I tuck Sadam Heusein into bed each and every night, and when he's feeling particularly upset about world affairs, I'll read him a book. Such as George and Martha, the lovely hippopotamus couple, or the Berenstein Bears. - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Sun Apr 13 02:13:14 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413064748.GB25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045556.GA27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064748.GB25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413091314.GH27405@iaminsane.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:47:48AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > Glad to see you've finally begun to pull out the smelling salts. > > You've obviously been under the influence of Dr No. > > Ruben > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:55:56PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:00:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > > > > BOING - WRONG > > > > Wow, I stand corrected obviously. Yeah, that BOING really hit home for me. - Nick From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 02:26:42 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413091122.GG27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413091122.GG27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413092642.GA27745@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I'm suprised that you never read him his favorite The Protocals of Zion and Meim Kompf. One or both are very popular now in the Middle East. Ruben > > Yes, yes I am. I tuck Sadam Heusein into bed each and every night, and > when he's feeling particularly upset about world affairs, I'll read him > a book. Such as George and Martha, the lovely hippopotamus couple, or > the Berenstein Bears. > > - Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From nkj at iaminsane.com Sun Apr 13 02:41:31 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413092642.GA27745@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413091122.GG27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413092642.GA27745@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413094131.GJ27405@iaminsane.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 05:26:42AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > I'm suprised that you never read him his favorite > > The Protocals of Zion and Meim Kompf. > > One or both are very popular now in the > Middle East. Yeah? Though I'd be willing to wager money that they are not nearly as popular as your momma is right now in the Middle East. They FUCK her so HARD she CRIES. And you thought it was rain. - Nick From nkj at iaminsane.com Sun Apr 13 02:42:58 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:24 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412175548.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412210953.GC11223@iaminsane.com> <20030412175548.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413094258.GK27405@iaminsane.com> On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 05:55:48PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > I might do that if they let Jews in the country. I had to change my military ID to Luthern > when I was there, before they'd let me in. > > Thank God, with the help of American Forces, that's changing. > > No Blood for OIL!!! Democratized the Middle East Now regardless of the negitive consequences > to the French and Russian Oil Supply! Yeah, lets just annihilate them all and replace them with your offspring. - Nick From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 02:35:03 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030413093503.GB27745@www2.mrbrklyn.com> It's funny how two people can read the same newspaper and come away with different impressions. You read a pointless article about the looting of the Iraqi National Museum, and I read how the population in Egypt, influenced by over 50 years of brutal dicatorship and hateful propaganda express pride in their 'victory' in their 1973 attempt to exterminate 3 million Jews in their home land. I can only imagine the pride you'd have if they had succeeded. It's a very interesting thing how living under such conditions for generations can negitively influence an entire nation, such as the Great Egypt of Nassar and Mubarac. I guess there is a lot of work to be done in the middle east. This action with Iraq is a good start. I'll say this CL - Patrick Moynahain your not.... more like Patty Hersch. Ruben On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:54:26PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:14:41PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > The oil wells need to be secured because of the ecological disaster > > of them being set on fire. > > That's the most hilarious thing I've listened all week. However, since > you're into avoiding disasters, then I'm sure you'll agree with me that > the looting of the National Museum of Iraq, considered by The New York > Times "(...) one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent Middle > Eastern history". Allow me to quote them when they say that this was > also "what is likely to be reckoned as one of the greatest cultural > disasters in recent Middle Eastern history". > > Now you can see all of that for yourself at > http://archives.nytimes.com/2003/04/12/international/worldspecial/12CND-BAGH.html > > And I shall ask you now if you still think the US troops should not have > secured the place properly. Sometimes you do not need to fire at > somebody to keep them out, you know. Just occupying the place would do. > > > I'm not for opening fire on Iraqi civilians for looting Government > > Palaces. > > Neither am I. I would, on the other hand, appreciate it if the United > States of America respected Chapter 8, Paragraph 3, Chapter 1 of the Geneva > Convention's treaty, which reads: > > "The representatives or delegates of the Protecting Powers shall not in > any case exceed their mission under the present Convention. They shall, > in particular, take account of the imperative necessities of security of > the State wherein they carry out their duties. Their activities shall > only be restricted as an exceptional and temporary measure when this is > rendered necessary by imperative military necessities." > > As per http://www.asociety.com/geneva1.html and, well, everywhere that > has the Geneva Convention online. > > As for the rest of your petty insults, I'm better off not replying to > them. > > -- > Carlos Laviola > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From nkj at iaminsane.com Sun Apr 13 02:48:58 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Damn you all to hell! You blew it up! In-Reply-To: <20030412063708.GC18790@zork.net> References: <20030412063708.GC18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030413094858.GL27405@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 11:37:08PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > http://www.mgm.com/mgm/images/box-dvd/BREAKIN2-box_hires_dvd.jpg <-- emad Dude, you BETTER not be talking shit 'bout breakin' 2: electric boogaloo. I was raised on that shit. I accuse you of talking shit, because in all realism, I actually have no idea what you are talking about, so I assume the worst. You can work you way up from there. - Nick From unpost at hafd.org Sun Apr 13 03:26:51 2003 From: unpost at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87he92zo9g.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> #2 of Berkeley writes: > On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Bob Bernstein wrote: > The UN would be a great deal more useful if we eliminated the veto > in the Security Council, among other things. Unfortunately, The U.S. has > lobbied hard against that. That's because the US vetos like five successful resolutions against Isreal a minute. -- Jordan Bettis The growing and dangerous intrusion of this new technology threatens an entire industry's economic vitality and future security. It is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston Strangler is to the woman alone. -- Jack Valenti, CEO of MPAA, on cassette recorders in 1982 From unpost at hafd.org Sun Apr 13 03:50:49 2003 From: unpost at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413012934.GA18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413012934.GA18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <87d6jqzn5i.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> Ruben Safir writes: > I have read the reports and talked to friends deployed in the > field. > > Your just too stupid to understand what it means when 100 million > galeons of oil is burning per hour. Do you mean galleon? How much oil can a galleon hold? -- Jordan Bettis The citizen who sees his society's democratic clothes being worn out and does not cry it out, is not a patriot, but a traitor. -- Mark Twain From unpost at hafd.org Sun Apr 13 04:06:59 2003 From: unpost at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413054832.GA21212@laviola.org> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413054832.GA21212@laviola.org> Message-ID: <878yuezmek.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> Carlos Laviola writes: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:38:06PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > I can't believe you actually spent time writing this email. > > http://www.google.com/search?q=echelon%20generator Cool kids just type M-x spook. SSL computer terrorism Pine Gap David John Oates Delta Force Freeh Juiliett Class Submarine arrangements Dateline ARPA IDEA e-bomb JSOFC3IP Belknap JFK -- Jordan Bettis Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 04:11:45 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <87he92zo9g.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> References: <87he92zo9g.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> Message-ID: <20030413111145.GA28780@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Which is the right thing to do. They wouldn't need to veto them if the UN wasn't fully of illegetamate despots Ruben > > That's because the US vetos like five successful resolutions against > Isreal a minute. > > -- > Jordan Bettis > The growing and dangerous intrusion of this new technology threatens > an entire industry's economic vitality and future security. It is to > the American film producer and the American public as the Boston > Strangler is to the woman alone. > -- Jack Valenti, CEO of MPAA, on cassette recorders in 1982 > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 04:13:17 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413094131.GJ27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413091122.GG27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413092642.GA27745@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413094131.GJ27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413111317.GB28780@www2.mrbrklyn.com> They probibly are since she's been a corpse for over 15 years It's just the kind of thing that is popular there Ruben On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:41:31AM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 05:26:42AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > I'm suprised that you never read him his favorite > > > > The Protocals of Zion and Meim Kompf. > > > > One or both are very popular now in the > > Middle East. > > Yeah? Though I'd be willing to wager money that they are not nearly as > popular as your momma is right now in the Middle East. They FUCK her > so HARD she CRIES. > > And you thought it was rain. > > - Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 04:14:46 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413094258.GK27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412210953.GC11223@iaminsane.com> <20030412175548.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413094258.GK27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413111446.GC28780@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Yeah - Just allow them to be continually raised as biggoted brainwashed murderous fanatics.... Yeah Yeah ... That's the ticket... Ruben > > Yeah, lets just annihilate them all and replace them with your > offspring. > > - Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 04:32:59 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com>; from nkj@iaminsane.com on Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:38:06 -0400 References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413073259.C28958@www2.mrbrklyn.com> It's the art of crackmonkeys... Did you siign up for the wrong mailing list? On 2003.04.13 01:38 Nick Jennings wrote: > I can't believe you actually spent time writing this email. > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:09:24AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > secure Kh-11 INSCOM PGP undercover Firefly encryption beanpole NORAD > > enemy of the state nuclear Centro number key threat cracking > > > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:58:33PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > > supercomputer fraud NSA bootleg bce SEAL Team 6 number key Crowell > > ASDIC Albright sweep Agfa White House fissionable computer terrorism > > > > > 1. You actually KNOW what the fuck is going on, and what the motives > > > are for what the US is doing, which you most assuredly don't. > > > > Ooo. Creepy creepy creepy. Spooky stuff all over the place. Creepy. > > > > AGT. AMME cybercash undercover CESID Belknap freedom monarchist > > Adriatic [Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance] > > advisors president Qaddafi SSL arrangements world domination > > > > > 2. You actually have some say it what "we" do, which you don't. > > > > Ooo. Creepy creepy creepy. Spooky stuff all over the place. Creepy. > > > > illuminati constitution Bosnia quiche industrial intelligence Treasury > > electronic surveillance BCCI assassinate Waco, Texas BATF Pine Gap > > eternity server global Verisign > > > > Nick: You're among friends. You're in a safe place. We're going to > > take care of you. Is there anyone call to let them know you're here, > > and prabably will be here at least sixty days per the court order? > > Here, take this it'll make you feel better. > > > > -- > > Bob Bernstein > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 04:36:36 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com>; from nkj@iaminsane.com on Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 05:07:11 -0400 References: <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413073636.E28958@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Maybe a couple of 767's in your window might... Nah - nothing on heaven or earth can make you move. On 2003.04.13 05:07 Nick Jennings wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:17:00AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 11:05:54PM -0700, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > > > Now let me get back to my Red Sox game and my FOX NEWS saturday > > > night movie, Gulf War 2: With Avengance! > > > > Oh yeah sure, you're a Sox fan. Yeah right. Pull that one and a half > > inch diameter styrene dowel OUT OF YOUR ASS, and then maybe you could > > tolerate actually sitting down and watching a ball game. Just my > > opinion Lord knows ianal. > > Man, it's all about the A's and the styrene dowel up my ass does NOT > effect my opinion in any way. > > - Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sun Apr 13 06:10:59 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413131059.GG28929@callisto.jtan.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:46:55AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > Let's start with you Nick. Yes! > I think this thread justifies an investigation into war crimes by you > for supporting a genocidal criminal. Are you giving aid and comfort > to the facist government of Iraq? That's one approach. But there are others. You see, children such as Nick persist in the delusion that actions have no consequences; they are perpetually in the sandbox, playing. So I have a better idea: make a collection of Nick's posts to this thread and send them to the principals of his employer. Nick works for a company that aspires to go public. It might matter to them that one of their employees is dragging their name through moral mud. (And make that: FORMER fascist government.) -- Bob Bernstein From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sun Apr 13 09:12:52 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413131059.GG28929@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413131059.GG28929@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030413161252.GF880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Bob Bernstein quotation: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:46:55AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > I think this thread justifies an investigation into war crimes by you > > for supporting a genocidal criminal. Are you giving aid and comfort > > to the facist government of Iraq? > > That's one approach. But there are others. You see, children such as > Nick persist in the delusion that actions have no consequences; they > are perpetually in the sandbox, playing. You mean delusions like "We can invade Iraq with shay reasoning and no UN support and nobody'll mind." "We don't need to protect our rear, it's not like anybody's going to attack our supply line." or "Who needs to deploy MPs? The Iraqis are going to come out and celebrate our arrival and then just go back to pumping oil." > So I have a better idea: make > a collection of Nick's posts to this thread and send them to the > principals of his employer. Nick works for a company that aspires to > go public. It might matter to them that one of their employees is > dragging their name through moral mud. Uh-oh, an employee of $COMPANY has opinions! Better not buy their stock! > (And make that: FORMER fascist government.) No, it's still around, but now it's in Syria, that's why we have to invade them now. Duh. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mYyDjLHcIq3dHxYRAvQRAKDalgNAldkxhpvPD/cRs2kqveyEEQCg5zw4 NlMj2PKTt8E12OhJtL1eiQc= =PUG3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From unpost at hafd.org Sun Apr 13 09:51:50 2003 From: unpost at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <200304111455.16966.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20030409205828.GA1459@localhost.localdomain> <200304111423.15677.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030411223806.GG16731@iaminsane.com> <200304111455.16966.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <874r52z6ft.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> dep writes: > recently build palaces made possible by the money allowed iraq during > the embargo, rather than having been spent on the people of that > country. What part of "make-work" don't you understand? -- Jordan Bettis No matter what happens, there is always someone who knew it would. From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Sun Apr 13 09:54:49 2003 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Damn you all to hell! You blew it up! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:48:58 PDT." <20030413094858.GL27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030412063708.GC18790@zork.net> <20030413094858.GL27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <200304131655.h3DGt8c6020640@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:48:58 PDT, Nick Jennings said: > I accuse you of talking shit, because in all realism, I actually have > no idea what you are talking about, so I assume the worst. You can work > you way up from there. Quoting the list charter. For shame. It might fly with your homies, but you'll have to do better than that. From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 10:03:48 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413161252.GF880@8ball.wox.org>; from hick0142@tc.umn.edu on Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 12:12:52 -0400 References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413131059.GG28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413161252.GF880@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030413130348.A32177@www2.mrbrklyn.com> > > You mean delusions like "We can invade Iraq with shay reasoning and no > UN support and nobody'll mind." No More like the reality that we can invade Iraq because it's not a legitamate government and it's national infrastructure is being used to commit genocide against it's own people. Fuck the UN. It has no moral standing in world affairs. -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sun Apr 13 11:00:38 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413130348.A32177@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413131059.GG28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413161252.GF880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413130348.A32177@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413180038.GA19514@callisto.jtan.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:03:48PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > More like the reality that we can invade Iraq because it's not a > legitamate government and it's national infrastructure is being used > to commit genocide against it's own people. The _real_ reason we can invade Iraq is too shocking for most liberal twits to even contemplate; it is two-fold: 1. They suck. Years under Saddam produced a police state that could get its jollies torturing women and children, but was totally incompetent at defending itself, or its citizens. The latter rightly - but very quietly of course - concluded that here was a nation-state that ought to be left on its own to die of natural causes, including invasion by American military. 2. We rock. Militarily speaking, we are such incredible bad-asses, that one can only enjoy the sheer expertise of our personnel and the tools made available to them. Yes, it's laughable, the discrepancy between our ability to destroy our enemies, and the Arab world's complete inability to destroy theirs. bin Laden will go down in Arab history as probably the worst fool ever to befall them. He _really_ pissed off the wrong people. Duh. > Fuck the UN. It has no moral standing in world affairs. What you said; word, dog, word! (That's for all you spoiled little suburban white wussie-boy bitches trying to be black men. Duh.) And Ruben: I take it all back; You rock too. -- Bob Bernstein From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Apr 13 11:01:26 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> References: <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> begin Nick Jennings quotation: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:17:00AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > Oh yeah sure, you're a Sox fan. Yeah right. Pull that one and a > > half inch diameter styrene dowel OUT OF YOUR ASS, and then maybe > > you could tolerate actually sitting down and watching a ball game. > > Just my opinion Lord knows ianal. > > Man, it's all about the A's and the styrene dowel up my ass does NOT > effect my opinion in any way. Take this sportsball shit OFF MY LIST. -- end From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Sun Apr 13 11:02:32 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Ruben Safir wrote: > > That's funny. I suppose the US should attack and annex all countries > > with starving children. > > That would not be a bad idea if they have homcidal maniacs at the helm. We'd be more successful in our empire-building strategy if we focused on the countries without homcidal[sic] maniacs at the helm. -- "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace." --Michael Franti From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Sun Apr 13 11:04:00 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413053630.GR18790@zork.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > There we go! The more "you're a moron" mail we get, and the > less "my political crackpot viewpoint is better than yours because of > these seven pages of special pleading", the better this list is! Get a mac. -- "There was never a good war or a bad peace." --Ben Franklin From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sun Apr 13 11:15:18 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> References: <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > Take this sportsball shit OFF MY LIST. [extended baseball analogy to illustrate previous point] - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mak0jLHcIq3dHxYRAu1sAJ9fbPxl9433222odEzbB1BrkOg08ACg5g0+ UbFckxrd4E6pGSlOQbSfmyo= =pl2Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From henrik at enberg.org Sun Apr 13 11:17:58 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:25 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413180038.GA19514@callisto.jtan.com> (Bob Bernstein's message of "Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:00:38 -0400") References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413131059.GG28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413161252.GF880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413130348.A32177@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413180038.GA19514@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <87of3antwp.fsf@enberg.org> Bob Bernstein writes: > 2. We rock. Then why have you losers failed to get Uncle Osama? Or Saddam? From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Apr 13 11:18:53 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030331190523.GM27611@ns.snowman.net> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> <20030331050450.GB13044@zork.net> <20030331190523.GM27611@ns.snowman.net> Message-ID: <20030413181853.GV18790@zork.net> begin Paul Duncan quotation: > I learned everything I know about captured alien hardware from > Independence Day. > > Great GUI. Poor security. Mac-compatible interface. Oh gosh! You must be the FIRST PERSON IN THE WORLD to notice that GLARING PLOT HOLE in the INDURPENDUNCE DAY FILLUM. Quick! Send it in to AIN'T I COOL NEWZBLOG! -- end From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Sun Apr 13 11:19:37 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <200304121122.53275.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, dep wrote: > let's see. what would be > europe's contribution to the world since, oh, say, 1500? ummmmm . . . espresso, pilsner, and pizza margherita... without which the internet would never be possible. Funny that a guy who hosts LINUXandmain.com can't think of any European contributions to our society. -- "You either support masturbating while eating cheetos or you are with the terrorists." --Ben Franklin From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Sun Apr 13 11:28:08 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Ruben I Safir wrote: > That would make you happy.. If you would stop top posting, I'd be a little happier, anyway. -- "There was never a good war or a bad peace." --Ben Franklin From unpost at hafd.org Sun Apr 13 11:29:15 2003 From: unpost at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030413180038.GA19514@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413131059.GG28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413161252.GF880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413130348.A32177@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413180038.GA19514@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <87llyeb69w.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> Bob Bernstein writes: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:03:48PM -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > Fuck the UN. It has no moral standing in world affairs. > > What you said; word, dog, word! (That's for all you spoiled little > suburban white wussie-boy bitches trying to be black men. Duh.) Who's the suburbanite here? -- Jordan Bettis C++ will do for C what Algol-68 did for Algol. -- David L. Jones From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Sun Apr 13 11:31:49 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413015632.GA18451@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Ruben Safir wrote: > Let me tell you the real news, bubby. 6 months from now nobody will > remember any looting of the museum, let alone consider it > 'one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent middle east history' Defiling the historical remnants of the land of Abraham makes Baby Jesus cry. -- "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace." --Michael Franti From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Sun Apr 13 11:42:11 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030412184037.U16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Ruben I Safir wrote: > More Ben Franklin thanks, you discovered a bug in my .procmailrc. I was deleting duplicate messages, and sending email sent to crackdonkey that wasn't from the list to my spam folder. Since you're the only emailtard who seems to reply straight to me instead of the mailing list, I don't think I'm missing much. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sun Apr 13 11:53:05 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: References: <20030413015632.GA18451@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413185305.GB19514@callisto.jtan.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:31:49AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > Defiling the historical remnants of the land of Abraham makes Baby Jesus > cry. Fuck the remnants. We costed out the alternatives: load the contents of the museum onto Fedex trucks and send it to our vaults in Switzerland, for disposal on the open market, or, just let the Iraqis liberate the stuff for their own use, abuse or destruction. Plan B won. Who gives a rat's ass? I mean we're supposed to: A. Get rid of the bad guys. B. Make sure the people have enough to eat. C. Treat ALL the sick and wounded. And then SAVE THEIR FUCKING TRINKETS TOO, WHEN THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEM ANYWAY? C'MON! -- Bob Bernstein From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sun Apr 13 12:01:22 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hey! Loot this! Message-ID: <20030413190122.GC19514@callisto.jtan.com> As usual Andrew Sullivan get's it right, by calling attention to this leetle detail: "Among the attacks that had a strong political edge were those on the German Embassy and the French cultural center, both in east Baghdad. Few Iraqis were unaware, in the weeks preceding the war, that France and Germany were leading international efforts to force President Bush into accepting an extension of United Nations weapons inspections here, and to delay military action against Mr. Hussein. "The French and German buildings were stripped of furniture, curtains, decorations, and anything else that could be carried away. At the French cultural center, where looters burst water pipes and flooded the ground floor, books were left floating in the reading rooms and corridors, and a photograph of Jacques Chirac, the French president, was smashed. French reporters said the French Embassy, also on the Tigris's east bank, appeared to have been spared because it remained under the protection of French military guards. The German Embassy was unprotected." - John F. Burns, New York Times today. -- Bob Bernstein From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 12:06:07 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: References: <20030413015632.GA18451@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413190607.GA1052@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I have good copies of everything Arbraham felt importanant to keep. I am his grandson On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:31:49AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > Let me tell you the real news, bubby. 6 months from now nobody will > > remember any looting of the museum, let alone consider it > > 'one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent middle east history' > > Defiling the historical remnants of the land of Abraham makes Baby Jesus > cry. > > -- > "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace." > --Michael Franti > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 12:07:17 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: References: <200304121122.53275.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030413190717.GB1052@www2.mrbrklyn.com> That's GNU/Linux Bub And it was from a New Yorker On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:19:37AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, dep wrote: > > > let's see. what would be > > europe's contribution to the world since, oh, say, 1500? ummmmm . . . > > espresso, pilsner, and pizza margherita... without which the internet > would never be possible. > > Funny that a guy who hosts LINUXandmain.com can't think of any European > contributions to our society. > > -- > "You either support masturbating while eating cheetos or you are with the > terrorists." > --Ben Franklin > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 12:08:06 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <87of3antwp.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20030412190041.A16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413004250.GA5470@laviola.org> <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413064655.GA25643@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413131059.GG28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413161252.GF880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413130348.A32177@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413180038.GA19514@callisto.jtan.com> <87of3antwp.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030413190806.GC1052@www2.mrbrklyn.com> It's hard to seperate their ashes from the mud Ruben On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 08:17:58PM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > Bob Bernstein writes: > > > 2. We rock. > > Then why have you losers failed to get Uncle Osama? Or Saddam? > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Sun Apr 13 12:12:06 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hey! Loot this! In-Reply-To: <20030413190122.GC19514@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030413190122.GC19514@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030413191206.GD1052@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Thhe road to Berlin goes through Bagdad On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 03:01:22PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > As usual Andrew Sullivan get's it right, by calling attention to this > leetle detail: > > "Among the attacks that had a strong political edge were those on the > German Embassy and the French cultural center, both in east Baghdad. > Few Iraqis were unaware, in the weeks preceding the war, that France > and Germany were leading international efforts to force President Bush > into accepting an extension of United Nations weapons inspections > here, and to delay military action against Mr. Hussein. > > "The French and German buildings were stripped of furniture, curtains, > decorations, and anything else that could be carried away. At the > French cultural center, where looters burst water pipes and flooded > the ground floor, books were left floating in the reading rooms and > corridors, and a photograph of Jacques Chirac, the French president, > was smashed. French reporters said the French Embassy, also on the > Tigris's east bank, appeared to have been spared because it remained > under the protection of French military guards. The German Embassy was > unprotected." - John F. Burns, New York Times today. > > > -- > Bob Bernstein > > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From nkj at iaminsane.com Sun Apr 13 12:18:03 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413111446.GC28780@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030412210953.GC11223@iaminsane.com> <20030412175548.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413094258.GK27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413111446.GC28780@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20030413191803.GA371@iaminsane.com> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 07:14:46AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > Yeah - Just allow them to be continually raised as biggoted > brainwashed murderous fanatics.... > > Yeah Yeah ... That's the ticket... > > > > Yeah, lets just annihilate them all and replace them with your > > offspring. > > Well, being your offspring is bad enough, raising them in the same way as you have been might be going a little too far. - Nick From necco at relst8.net Sun Apr 13 12:25:23 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SETI In-Reply-To: <20030413181853.GV18790@zork.net> References: <20030331044943.GA31309@relst8.net> <20030331050450.GB13044@zork.net> <20030331190523.GM27611@ns.snowman.net> <20030413181853.GV18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030413192523.GA26939@relst8.net> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:18:53AM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Paul Duncan quotation: > > I learned everything I know about captured alien hardware from > > Independence Day. > > > > Great GUI. Poor security. Mac-compatible interface. > > Oh gosh! You must be the FIRST PERSON IN THE WORLD to notice > that GLARING PLOT HOLE in the INDURPENDUNCE DAY FILLUM. > > Quick! Send it in to AIN'T I COOL NEWZBLOG! > O'muh God it's the funky shite! -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net | From necco at relst8.net Sun Apr 13 12:29:34 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] PSA Message-ID: <20030413192934.GB26939@relst8.net> Political discussions are like, totahwee ghey. /neoconvervative catholic republican immigrant to usa -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net | From nick at zork.net Sun Apr 13 14:14:08 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030413211408.GX18790@zork.net> Howdy tall paul! Are you here to share your wholesome stories of life in the great white north? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- tallpaul@ml1.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From necco at relst8.net Sun Apr 13 13:24:48 2003 From: necco at relst8.net (Loki Ambrodious von Esling) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030413211408.GX18790@zork.net> References: <20030413211408.GX18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030413202448.GA27192@relst8.net> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:14:08PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > tallpaul@ml1.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. > For a second there, that looked like "mli.net," the old Wolfenstein 3D cheat. (or it was probably ment to be ILM, either way I'm hung over and extememly tired today) -- Loki Ambrodious von Esling -|- RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net | From wcshafer at cablespeed.com Sun Apr 13 14:42:59 2003 From: wcshafer at cablespeed.com (Chris Shafer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> References: <20030413020007.GA18607@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> Can you please sit up your mime type's properly-- On 0, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > > Take this sportsball shit OFF MY LIST. > > [extended baseball analogy to illustrate previous point] > > - -- > Brian Hicks > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+mak0jLHcIq3dHxYRAu1sAJ9fbPxl9433222odEzbB1BrkOg08ACg5g0+ > UbFckxrd4E6pGSlOQbSfmyo= > =pl2Q > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://frotz.zork.net/pipermail/crackmonkey/attachments/20030413/5e31323d/attachment.pgp From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sun Apr 13 16:03:17 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> References: <20030413045833.GB27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Chris Shafer quotation: > > Can you please sit up your mime type's properly-- Are they letting pgp-mime through the list again? - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mey0jLHcIq3dHxYRAvS1AKDxUuz1tNrE5K9Q/huj+rN5HWnn2wCeNJQE Q5wEbsnluVFpwajgPutZvjU= =IKpf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Apr 13 16:12:38 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> References: <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030413231238.GY18790@zork.net> begin Brian Danger Hicks quotation: > commence Chris Shafer quotation: > > Can you please sit up your mime type's properly-- > > Are they letting pgp-mime through the list again? Only when it's amusing. -- end From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Sun Apr 13 18:45:21 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413231238.GY18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030414014426.A70715-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Brian Danger Hicks quotation: > > commence Chris Shafer quotation: > > > Can you please sit up your mime type's properly-- > > > > Are they letting pgp-mime through the list again? > > Only when it's amusing. > Everytime I open my mail client, these days, I automatically type qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq; and it's because of you guys. From inkblot at movealong.org Sun Apr 13 19:16:38 2003 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414014426.A70715-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030413231238.GY18790@zork.net> <20030414014426.A70715-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030414021638.GA9901@movealong.org> Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > Everytime I open my mail client, these days, I automatically type > qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq; and it's > because of you guys. So? -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- "I just feel bad for the SUVs... forced to live all cooped up in the city like that." -- The Onion, Vol.39 Issue 07 pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Sun Apr 13 19:24:45 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Maybe it is spam. In-Reply-To: <20030411234511.GI9875@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030410192326.GC5717@localhost.localdomain> <20030410225454.GA15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <200304112225.h3BMPOl37314@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030411234511.GI9875@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1050287082.2992.5.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 16:45, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Hey! What about Store24? Nobody cares about the convenience stores on the island you live on. -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Sun Apr 13 19:37:36 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414021638.GA9901@movealong.org> Message-ID: <20030414023605.T76100-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan wrote: > Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > > Everytime I open my mail client, these days, I automatically type > > qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq; and it's > > because of you guys. > > So? > Unban me from #tron or I'll tell jordanb to steal your shoes. From zen at zork.net Sun Apr 13 19:43:54 2003 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] He probably did mean fuck. In-Reply-To: <1050287082.2992.5.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> References: <20030410234649.GM29431@dasbistro.com> <20030411021356.GF6009@localhost.localdomain> <20030411051149.GB15549@recalcitrant.org> <20030411055521.GB7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030411210546.GA16731@iaminsane.com> <20030411212636.GD9875@localhost.localdomain> <20030411215103.GC16731@iaminsane.com> <200304112225.h3BMPOl37314@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030411234511.GI9875@localhost.localdomain> <1050287082.2992.5.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> Message-ID: <20030414024354.GA776@zork.net> begin Tom Duffy uuencoded stream: > Nobody cares about the convenience stores on the island you live on. Daiei Now > * -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Sun Apr 13 20:11:37 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Why isn't this spam? In-Reply-To: <20030412182602.O16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030411184518.GN7403@localhost.localdomain> <20030412182602.O16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <1050289890.2992.12.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> On Sat, 2003-04-12 at 15:26, Ruben I Safir wrote: > I know it's hard for you dwim-witted peaceniks to understand this and > it gives you a headache to think about it, but Bush you can vote against > and didn't kill 20% of his nation, or support terorrism. But SADDAM DID. STOP TOP POSTING!!! > If you don't LIKE Bush, vote against him I did! But 5 oligarchs vetoed me. -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From inkblot at movealong.org Sun Apr 13 20:09:26 2003 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414023605.T76100-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030414021638.GA9901@movealong.org> <20030414023605.T76100-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030414030926.GA16953@movealong.org> Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan wrote: > > > Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > > > Everytime I open my mail client, these days, I automatically type > > > qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq; and it's > > > because of you guys. > > > > So? > > > > Unban me from #tron or I'll tell jordanb to steal your shoes. You seem to have an overreaching sense of entitlement. Get over it. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- "I just feel bad for the SUVs... forced to live all cooped up in the city like that." -- The Onion, Vol.39 Issue 07 pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Sun Apr 13 20:26:09 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414030926.GA16953@movealong.org> Message-ID: <20030414032338.C79846-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan wrote: > Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > > On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan wrote: > > > > > Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > > > > Everytime I open my mail client, these days, I automatically type > > > > qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq; and it's > > > > because of you guys. > > > > > > So? > > > > > > > Unban me from #tron or I'll tell jordanb to steal your shoes. > > You seem to have an overreaching sense of entitlement. Get over it. > You seem to have an undereaching sense of how to write an articulate sentence. Get under it. From inkblot at movealong.org Sun Apr 13 20:35:16 2003 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414032338.C79846-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030414030926.GA16953@movealong.org> <20030414032338.C79846-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030414033516.GA17659@movealong.org> Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > > > On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan wrote: > > > Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > > > On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, The Archduke of Chicago and Subjugator of Michigan wrote: > > > > > > > Just now Nikolai Krylenko made 15 LEDs in my apartment flash with this: > > > > > Everytime I open my mail client, these days, I automatically type > > > > > qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq; and it's > > > > > because of you guys. > > > > > > > > So? > > > > > > Unban me from #tron or I'll tell jordanb to steal your shoes. > > > > You seem to have an overreaching sense of entitlement. Get over it. > > You seem to have an undereaching sense of how to write an articulate > sentence. Get under it. You asked me a few weeks ago if I would help you understand the intricacies of the English language, and now you're claiming that the above sentence is inarticulate... how curious. GTFOML. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- "I just feel bad for the SUVs... forced to live all cooped up in the city like that." -- The Onion, Vol.39 Issue 07 pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Sun Apr 13 20:51:37 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030412193915.GE14334@lug.org.uk> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412011734.GL9875@localhost.localdomain> <87brzcbgiw.fsf@enberg.org> <200304111913.20332.dep@linuxandmain.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412120528.02713ea8@pop.west.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <20030412193915.GE14334@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <1050292295.2992.15.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> On Sat, 2003-04-12 at 12:39, Andy Smith wrote: > Are you sure you just don't like the concept of mother-raping!? Actually, it's group-w father-rapers that make me hard. -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Sun Apr 13 21:05:32 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030412123259.026a4968@pop.west.cox.net> <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> On Sat, 2003-04-12 at 18:30, Ruben Safir wrote: > Sure - be afraid to make any adhomun attacks on Crack Monkey > > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks Maybe if you bottom posted, you would see how to spell crackmonkey's doctrine. -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Sun Apr 13 21:14:34 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] PSA In-Reply-To: <20030413192934.GB26939@relst8.net> References: <20030413192934.GB26939@relst8.net> Message-ID: <20030414041434.GB18074@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 03:29:34PM -0400, Loki Ambrodious von Esling wrote: > /neoconvervative catholic republican immigrant to usa http://andrewsullivan.com/ -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From montaigne at att.net Sun Apr 13 21:33:59 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> References: <87u1d3fpp2.fsf@enberg.org> <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> Message-ID: <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 09:05:32PM -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > Maybe if you bottom posted, Ha ha bottoming. Duffyschmuffy knows a lot about it. Surprise, surprise. -- montaigne From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Apr 13 22:02:20 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030414050220.GC18790@zork.net> begin Michel de Montaigne quotation: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 09:05:32PM -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > > > Maybe if you bottom posted, > > Ha ha bottoming. > > Duffyschmuffy knows a lot about it. Surprise, surprise. Back in your box, little man. -- end From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sun Apr 13 22:14:22 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030412201146.GF14334@lug.org.uk> <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030414051422.GI880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Michel de Montaigne quotation: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 09:05:32PM -0700, Tom Duffy wrote: > > > Maybe if you bottom posted, > > Ha ha bottoming. > > Duffyschmuffy knows a lot about it. Surprise, surprise. Are you still here? - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mkOtjLHcIq3dHxYRAo7lAJ9uIlSWc3jCpJ0gx+NIKkdrjnzJvgCePsUg pqHXqBDYHkJu+tbJcaH+B/g= =teRg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From montaigne at att.net Sun Apr 13 22:39:46 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030414050220.GC18790@zork.net> References: <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> <20030414050220.GC18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030414053946.GB19740@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 10:02:20PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Back in your box, little man. Oooo. I so love it when you dominate me. Ooooo. Do it again. -- montaigne From montaigne at att.net Sun Apr 13 22:40:45 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030414051422.GI880@8ball.wox.org> References: <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> <20030414051422.GI880@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030414054045.GC19740@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 12:14:22AM -0500, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > Are you still here? I just got out. What'd I miss? -- montaigne From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sun Apr 13 22:55:12 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030414054045.GC19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> <20030414051422.GI880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414054045.GC19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030414055512.GJ880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Michel de Montaigne quotation: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 12:14:22AM -0500, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > > > Are you still here? > > I just got out. What'd I miss? Ever seen one of those movies where these Satanists think "Hey, let's unleash an unspeakable evil, I'm sure he'll reward us with hot chicks!" So then they unleash an unspeakable evil and they don't get hot chicks and instead are devoured messily? It's like that, only with trolls. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mk0vjLHcIq3dHxYRAnRKAJ47zXni9IanTwl39CykDxE2/rrI/ACeLzvU UPYJvypi6BFBnT79J1rE+r4= =hCo0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From unpost at hafd.org Sun Apr 13 22:55:18 2003 From: unpost at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030414054045.GC19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <200304121240.17732.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030412211331.GC13819@laviola.org> <20030412175230.C16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030412222526.GD13819@laviola.org> <20030412191441.E16037@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413005426.GB5470@laviola.org> <20030413013059.GB18321@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <1050293129.2992.21.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> <20030414043359.GA19740@localhost.localdomain> <20030414051422.GI880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414054045.GC19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <87d6jpbp2x.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> Michel de Montaigne writes: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 12:14:22AM -0500, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > > > Are you still here? > > I just got out. What'd I miss? We'd replaced you with a McDonalds Happy Meal toy that makes a buzzing sound when you shake it. -- Jordan Bettis The only constructive theory connecting neuroscience and psychology will arise from the study of software. -- Alan J Perlis: Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN 1982 From apost at recalcitrant.org Sun Apr 13 23:08:24 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] PSA In-Reply-To: <20030414041434.GB18074@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030413192934.GB26939@relst8.net> <20030414041434.GB18074@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030414060824.GO16239@recalcitrant.org> * Bob Bernstein (rs@bernstein.providence.ri.us) [030413 21:19]: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 03:29:34PM -0400, Loki Ambrodious von Esling wrote: > > > /neoconvervative catholic republican immigrant to usa > > http://andrewsullivan.com/ "As freedom has reached Eurasia, South America, and parts of the far east, since the end of Soviet communism, the Arab world remains cut off." Putin, the great civil libertarian. Who knew? From wcshafer at cablespeed.com Mon Apr 14 16:40:08 2003 From: wcshafer at cablespeed.com (Chris Shafer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> References: <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> Im subcribed to the list. Why must I be cc'd. I do not want this trash twice, and please fix you damm mime-types. On 0, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > commence Chris Shafer quotation: > > > > Can you please sit up your mime type's properly-- > > Are they letting pgp-mime through the list again? > > - -- > Brian Hicks > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+mey0jLHcIq3dHxYRAvS1AKDxUuz1tNrE5K9Q/huj+rN5HWnn2wCeNJQE > Q5wEbsnluVFpwajgPutZvjU= > =IKpf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 14 16:46:41 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> References: <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> begin Chris Shafer quotation: > Im subcribed to the list. Why must I be cc'd. I do not want this > trash twice, and please fix you damm mime-types. Your headers speak otherwise: Mail-Followup-To: Chris Shafer , crackmonkey@crackmonkey.org -- end From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Apr 14 17:07:07 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> References: <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <20030415000707.GK880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Chris Shafer quotation: > Im subcribed to the list. Why must I be cc'd. I do not want this trash > twice, and please fix you damm mime-types. > > > On 0, Brian Danger Hicks wrote: Fix your header, attribution, and learn how to reply to an e-mail. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+m00pjLHcIq3dHxYRApoHAJ90KuFdj16KIooJwWgAK2jQ5JVF+gCgncXy Mm156nB9ofYWLoywFJUFj38= =Wicm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wcshafer at cablespeed.com Mon Apr 14 17:16:13 2003 From: wcshafer at cablespeed.com (Chris Shafer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:26 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> References: <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> I see. All I can utter is Doh-- /me feels stupid. On 0, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Chris Shafer quotation: > > Im subcribed to the list. Why must I be cc'd. I do not want this > > trash twice, and please fix you damm mime-types. > > Your headers speak otherwise: > > Mail-Followup-To: Chris Shafer , > crackmonkey@crackmonkey.org > > -- > > end From dave at zork.net Mon Apr 14 17:18:32 2003 From: dave at zork.net (Dave Barry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> References: <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <20030415001832.GA25854@zork.net> Quothe Chris Shafer , on Mon, Apr 14, 2003: > /me feels stupid. I believe that was the point. -- Bush War One Bush War Two They got a war for me, they got a war for you. --Michael Franti From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 14 17:23:45 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> References: <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <20030415002344.GF18790@zork.net> begin Chris Shafer quotation: > I see. All I can utter is Doh-- > /me feels stupid. > > > On 0, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: You'll feel even dumber when you realize you've been top-posting with a broken date stamp, and that this is e-mail, not IRC. -- end From henrik at enberg.org Mon Apr 14 17:34:43 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> (Chris Shafer's message of "Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:40:08 -0400") References: <20030413050924.GA28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413053806.GC27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413055145.GC28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <87wuhw61jw.fsf@enberg.org> Chris Shafer writes: > Im subcribed to the list. Why must I be cc'd. I do not want this trash > twice, and please fix you damm mime-types. Because you're a top-poster. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Mon Apr 14 21:45:35 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> References: <20030413060554.GD27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 08:16:13PM -0400, Chris Shafer wrote: > I see. All I can utter is Doh-- > /me feels stupid. Don't EVA apologize again to these animals. They take it to be a sign of weakness. -- Today's lexicographical term: "hapax legomenon" http://www.bartleby.com/61/32/H0053200.html From simm at zork.net Mon Apr 14 21:52:32 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030413061700.GD28929@callisto.jtan.com> <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 08:16:13PM -0400, Chris Shafer wrote: > > > I see. All I can utter is Doh-- > > /me feels stupid. > > Don't EVA apologize again to these animals. They take it to be a sign > of weakness. > You are what is wrong with the world. The end. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Apr 14 22:07:27 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> References: <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030415050727.GL880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Simm Al-Aekrib quotation: > begin Bob Bernstein quotation: > > Don't EVA apologize again to these animals. They take it to be a sign > > of weakness. > > > > You are what is wrong with the world. The end. And they all lived happily ever after. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+m5OMjLHcIq3dHxYRAm83AJsFyTx+DwFQgrkWmNQrtKQDW5LaMwCeMPzX ysQhA7pepV8tVJrnr/Hs7w4= =CcCG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From montaigne at att.net Mon Apr 14 22:30:01 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> References: <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:52:32PM -0700, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > You are what is wrong with the world. The end. Not too pleased with the way the world's been going, say, the last few weeks, huh bucko? -- montaigne From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Tue Apr 15 00:46:06 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: Message from Michel de Montaigne of "Tue, 15 Apr 2003 01:30:01 EDT." <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030413090711.GF27405@iaminsane.com> <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200304150746.h3F7k7m76096@mail0.rawbw.com> Michel de Montaigne wrote: > Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > > > You are what is wrong with the world. The end. > > Not too pleased with the way the world's been going, say, the last few > weeks, huh bucko? Well you know, quite a few of us have some reservations about the way the world's been going of late, and some of us even have nice American sounding names that make rednecks feel more comfortable... Oh, wait, maybe German names are verboten now too. What's the revised profile for Real Americans now? From montaigne at att.net Tue Apr 15 06:53:17 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <200304150746.h3F7k7m76096@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <200304150746.h3F7k7m76096@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:46:06AM -0700, J. M. Brenner wrote: > Well you know, quite a few of us have some reservations about > the way the world's been going of late, and some of us even > have nice American sounding names that make rednecks feel more > comfortable... How *convenient* it would be to write off all of this as just redneck prejudice and ignorance. But, no, I'm sorry, as evidenced in the archives, Mr. Al-Aekrib is to be hung on the petard of, not what his name sounds like, but rather what comes out of his mouth. So, sorry but, I'm not picking on the poor fellow because I don't like the sound of his name! This misunderstanding on your part exemplifies a feature of this debate that has been noted and remarked by observers from both sides of the aisle, namely, that, whereas it isn't at all uncommon for questions of war and peace to arouse strong passions in many, it is unusual to see that one side of the aisle has CLEARLY wandered much farther into the deep end of the fever swamp than the other. Finally, now, without a factual, logical, or moral leg to stand on, the Left must resort to name-callng, and mumbled ruminations about a vast right-field conspiracy, as someone put it recently. > Oh, wait, maybe German names are verboten now too. No one gives a flying fuck about what your name is. > What's the revised profile for Real Americans now? There's no "revised" profile; it remains the same as always: love of country. Curiously enough, it is the same "profile" that applies to Frenchmen and Iraqis also. Idiot. -- montaigne From simm at zork.net Tue Apr 15 07:16:16 2003 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030415141616.GE23559@zork.net> begin Michel de Montaigne quotation: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:52:32PM -0700, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > > > You are what is wrong with the world. The end. > > Not too pleased with the way the world's been going, say, the last few > weeks, huh bucko? > Looks like you put the astro-glide on the wrong end this time, the words sliding out of your mouth are another example of how you've lost all sense of morality. Even if you support open-ended war because you truly believe countries x, y, and z are threat, you must be a morally irrational person to be "pleased" with war. Even G. W. Bush will tell you war is something he does reluctantly. You, bernstein, safir, and dep have convinced everyone who's had the illfortune to read your morally baseless opinions that if you were born in Iraq a few decades ago, you'd be part of Saddam's death squads. Congratulations, Michel de Montaigne, you are so morally corrupt, you could have been Chemical Ali or maybe even and Udai! What's your prize? A place on my ignore list and a life of being a one more person who any number of ruthless dictators would have loved to have at their beck and call. Remember, the guys who gassed their own people, murdered jews by the milions, and carried out similar mass murders all throughout the world were just like you, blind arrogant morally reprenhisible PATRIOTs. Feel free to reply, don't expect a response. I can't reason with someone who's lost the notion of the sanctity of human life and greets war with open arms. Not as a tool of last resort and one which even when morally justified (not to imply that this is the case) is done reluctantly. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Apr 15 07:18:00 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <200304150746.h3F7k7m76096@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030415141800.GM880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Michel de Montaigne quotation: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:46:06AM -0700, J. M. Brenner wrote: > > > Well you know, quite a few of us have some reservations about > > the way the world's been going of late, and some of us even > > have nice American sounding names that make rednecks feel more > > comfortable... > > How *convenient* it would be to write off all of this as just redneck > prejudice and ignorance. But, no, I'm sorry, as evidenced in the archives, > Mr. Al-Aekrib is to be hung on the petard of, not what his name sounds like, > but rather what comes out of his mouth. I don't know about you guys, but I make fun of him because his name sounds like an obsolete memory upgrade. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+nBSXjLHcIq3dHxYRAiDqAKC7EqXLrHtMcJxFG+C83cySVFeW0QCgu+9J d/cBloNbSyEmkPxcW9oilOI= =cBfQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From montaigne at att.net Tue Apr 15 08:01:47 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415141616.GE23559@zork.net> References: <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <20030415141616.GE23559@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030415150147.GF19740@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 07:16:16AM -0700, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > What's your prize? A place on my ignore list... Buh-bye now. Y'all come back now, y'hear? >...and a life of being a one more person who any number of ruthless > dictators would have loved to have at their beck and call. Review your Social Psych 201 notes: "patriotism" per se is not a feature of the authoritarian personality. Xenophobia, yes, but ordinary patriotism, which must still be counted a virtue, no. Sorry. You lose. > Feel free to reply... Well how grand and swell of you! > don't expect a response. You really know how to hurt a guy. -- montaigne From b.molitor at gmx.net Tue Apr 15 08:22:09 2003 From: b.molitor at gmx.net (Benjamin Molitor) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030413185305.GB19514@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030413015632.GA18451@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413185305.GB19514@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030415152209.GA29346@morpork> On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:53:05PM -0400, Bernstein-Bob wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:31:49AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > > > > Defiling the historical remnants of the land of Abraham makes Baby Jesus > > cry. > > Fuck the remnants. We costed out the alternatives: load the contents > of the museum onto Fedex trucks and send it to our vaults in > Switzerland, for disposal on the open market, or, just let the Iraqis > liberate the stuff for their own use, abuse or destruction. Finally things start clearing up! It was all just a great big misunderstanding! When you guys talk about "liberating" something, what you really mean is what others call "looting"! I should have known! Why, that whole liberating Iraq thing suddenly makes more sense! Liberate the Iraqi oil! bm -- FREE IRAQI OIL! From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Apr 15 10:44:04 2003 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415150147.GF19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <20030415141616.GE23559@zork.net> <20030415150147.GF19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030415174404.GN880@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Michel de Montaigne quotation: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 07:16:16AM -0700, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > >...and a life of being a one more person who any number of ruthless > > dictators would have loved to have at their beck and call. > > Review your Social Psych 201 notes: "patriotism" per se is not a > feature of the authoritarian personality. Xenophobia, yes, but > ordinary patriotism, which must still be counted a virtue, no. Sorry. > You lose. So, when we replace "Homeland" with "Fatherland" it suddenly becomes xenophobia? And why anyone would be afraid of Xeno is beyond me, the guy can't even outrun a tortoise. - -- Brian Hicks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+nETijLHcIq3dHxYRArrxAJ456JBuHc7bb0zkVnLrKuU47OP7JgCgsqHo QuOvxfoTfoNY3Cg10NZSf2w= =YrX4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Tue Apr 15 10:43:32 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Michel de Montaigne wrote: > There's no "revised" profile; it remains the same as always: love of > country. Curiously enough, it is the same "profile" that applies to > Frenchmen and Iraqis also. Idiot. How about loving our country's sports teams? Is that enough? From nkj at iaminsane.com Tue Apr 15 11:00:17 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <200304150746.h3F7k7m76096@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030415180017.GA10739@iaminsane.com> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 09:53:17AM -0400, Michel de Montaigne wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:46:06AM -0700, J. M. Brenner wrote: > > This misunderstanding on your part exemplifies a feature of this debate that > has been noted and remarked by observers from both sides of the aisle, > namely, that, whereas it isn't at all uncommon for questions of war and > peace to arouse strong passions in many, it is unusual to see that one side > of the aisle has CLEARLY wandered much farther into the deep end of the > fever swamp than the other. Yeah, we are so feverish with moral justification that we travelled to the other side of the world and started killing people! > Finally, now, without a factual, logical, or > moral leg to stand on, the Left must resort to name-callng, and mumbled > ruminations about a vast right-field conspiracy, as someone put it recently. Hey, you're the one who used that severe insult 'bucko'. - Nick From adam at flounder.net Tue Apr 15 11:36:43 2003 From: adam at flounder.net (Adam McKenna) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030415141616.GE23559@zork.net> References: <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <20030415141616.GE23559@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030415183643.GF9024@flounder.net> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 07:16:16AM -0700, Simm Al-Aekrib wrote: > You, bernstein, safir, and dep have convinced everyone who's had the > illfortune to read your morally baseless opinions that if you were born > in Iraq a few decades ago, you'd be part of Saddam's death squads. Not so fast. > Congratulations, Michel de Montaigne, you are so morally corrupt, you > could have been Chemical Ali or maybe even and Udai! > > What's your prize? A place on my ignore list and a life of being a > one more person who any number of ruthless dictators would have loved > to have at their beck and call. Remember, the guys who gassed their > own people, murdered jews by the milions, and carried out similar mass > murders all throughout the world were just like you, blind arrogant > morally reprenhisible PATRIOTs. > > Feel free to reply, don't expect a response. I can't reason with > someone who's lost the notion of the sanctity of human life and > greets war with open arms. Not as a tool of last resort and one which > even when morally justified (not to imply that this is the case) is > done reluctantly. I think you forgot what list this is. I'm still unconvinced that Bernstein's rants are anything other than pure sarcasm. --Adam From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Apr 15 08:35:23 2003 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] now you can dream again Message-ID: <200304151135.23920.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030415/ap_on_en_tv/knight_rider_4 -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Apr 15 12:39:53 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] now you can dream again In-Reply-To: <200304151135.23920.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200304151135.23920.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20030415193953.GB22575@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030415/ap_on_en_tv/knight_rider_4 KNIGHT RIDER STORY APPEARS ON KNIGHT-RIDDER. HILARITY ENSUES -- end From zen at zork.net Tue Apr 15 14:19:11 2003 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] now you can dream again In-Reply-To: <20030415193953.GB22575@zork.net> References: <200304151135.23920.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20030415193953.GB22575@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030415211911.GA28305@zork.net> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco uuencoded stream: > KNIGHT RIDER STORY APPEARS ON KNIGHT-RIDDER. HILARITY ENSUES Thank you, Zak McKracken. -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Tue Apr 15 15:13:50 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: Message from Michel de Montaigne of "Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:53:17 EDT." <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <200304150746.h3F7k7m76096@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200304152213.h3FMDpu41814@mail0.rawbw.com> Michel de Montaigne wrote: > J. M. Brenner wrote: > > What's the revised profile for Real Americans now? > > There's no "revised" profile; it remains the same as always: love of > country. Curiously enough, it is the same "profile" that applies to > Frenchmen and Iraqis also. Idiot. Oh, but now you see, I would've thought that being a "real american" would have something to do with, you know, "freedom", or maybe truth and justice, and that kind of stuff. But instead it's just worshiping the dirt on whatever side of the line you happened to be born on, and cheering for your team. From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Tue Apr 15 15:39:06 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <200304152213.h3FMDpu41814@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, J. M. Brenner wrote: > But instead it's just worshiping the dirt on whatever side of > the line you happened to be born on, and cheering for your > team. The only good thing about nation-states that I can think of is that it helps you decide who you compete for in the Olympics. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Tue Apr 15 10:25:58 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030415152209.GA29346@morpork> References: <20030413015632.GA18451@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413185305.GB19514@callisto.jtan.com> <20030415152209.GA29346@morpork> Message-ID: <20030415172558.GA20294@callisto.jtan.com> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 05:22:09PM +0200, Benjamin Molitor wrote: > When you guys talk about "liberating" something, what you really mean > is what others call "looting"! I should have known! Yup. You got it. Word, dog. Glad I could help. So, to sum up, REAL AMERICANS favor looting, killing, raping, eating children and burgers and SPORTS. Yup. Word. What it is. Yo. Whupass rulz. -- Bob Bernstein From montaigne at att.net Tue Apr 15 22:11:20 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <200304152213.h3FMDpu41814@mail0.rawbw.com> References: <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <200304150746.h3F7k7m76096@mail0.rawbw.com> <20030415135317.GE19740@localhost.localdomain> <200304152213.h3FMDpu41814@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030416051120.GG19740@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 03:13:50PM -0700, J. M. Brenner wrote: > But instead it's just worshiping the dirt on whatever side of > the line you happened to be born on, and cheering for your > team. That's right; it's just a mere atavistic prejudice, the mistaken elevation of an accident of birth to the status of an "ultimate concern." Aye...you're a smart one, yes you are me laddie. Or is it....? -- montaigne From jmorris at intercode.com.au Wed Apr 16 00:50:44 2003 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Bend it like Beaujolais Message-ID: Brits. She's known to the public as Posh Spice but Victoria Beckham has revealed she now goes by another nickname - Beaujolais. Victoria has long been considered the inspiration for Footballer's Wives character Chardonnay Lane. And the wife of England hero David Beckham let slip that friends have named her after another type of plonk in tribute to the TV show. In an interview for forthcoming BBC1 program Tabloid Tales, she confessed: "My hairdresser calls me Beaujolais." In the ITV1 series, Chardonnay is the glamorous but dim wife of a star footballer. From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Wed Apr 16 09:02:07 2003 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:16:16 PDT." <20030415141616.GE23559@zork.net> References: <20030413180126.GU18790@zork.net> <20030413181518.GG880@8ball.wox.org> <20030413214259.GB11165@cablespeed.com> <20030413230317.GH880@8ball.wox.org> <20030414234008.GA27136@cablespeed.com> <20030414234641.GE18790@zork.net> <20030415001613.GA29525@cablespeed.com> <20030415044535.GE18074@localhost.localdomain> <20030415045232.GD23559@zork.net> <20030415053001.GD19740@localhost.localdomain> <20030415141616.GE23559@zork.net> Message-ID: <200304161602.h3GG27St001315@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:16:16 PDT, Simm Al-Aekrib said: > Even if you support open-ended war because you truly believe countries > x, y, and z are threat, you must be a morally irrational person > to be "pleased" with war. Even G. W. Bush will tell you war is > something he does reluctantly. Oh, sure, he'll *tell* you that, because admitting he was pleased with it would be a blunder that even his spin doctors couldn't fix.... From montaigne at att.net Wed Apr 16 09:53:16 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: References: <200304152213.h3FMDpu41814@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20030416165315.GH19740@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 03:39:06PM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > The only good thing about nation-states that I can think of is that it > helps you decide who you compete for in the Olympics. Ooo. SOMEBODY musta passed Pol. Sci. 301 Intro to Political Theory!! Ooo. But all kidding aside, how did we gather together on this one small list such an enormously high proportion of brilliant deep thinkers, guys who see past the feeble platitudes in which the rest of us mere mortals remain mired? I mean, the concept of the nation-state has a downside or two? WHO KNEW? WHAT BRILLIANCE! -- montaigne From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Wed Apr 16 11:14:43 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030416165315.GH19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Michel de Montaigne wrote: > I mean, the concept of the nation-state has a downside or two? WHO KNEW? > WHAT BRILLIANCE! So when the revolution comes, we can count you in? From aelmore at interwoven.com Wed Apr 16 11:57:56 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: The children, you say? In-Reply-To: <20030415172558.GA20294@callisto.jtan.com> References: <20030413015632.GA18451@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030413185305.GB19514@callisto.jtan.com> <20030415152209.GA29346@morpork> <20030415172558.GA20294@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030416185755.GA30847@interwoven.com> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 01:25:58PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > So, to sum up, REAL AMERICANS favor looting, killing, raping, eating > children and burgers and SPORTS. Yup. Word. What it is. Yo. Whupass > rulz. It's the MEAT that makes men and women REAL AMERICANS. Eating too much SOY PRODUCTS turns you into a dirty smelly PEACE-LOVING HIPPIE! Why I hear that even COWBOYS can get laid now. From nick at zork.net Wed Apr 16 16:47:33 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [ser@tch.org: Re: [BAWUG] Yet again: A gentle reminder about email 'netiquette'] Message-ID: <20030416234733.GU22575@zork.net> Have you ever kissed a girl? ----- Forwarded message from Steve Rubin ----- Envelope-to: nick@zork.net Delivered-To: lists.bawug.org-wireless@lists.bawug.org From: Steve Rubin To: Ross Finlayson Cc: wireless@lists.bawug.org, peterbellew@wirefreetown.com, eden.akhavi@ltt.com, tonylist@wwwbiz.com, admin@microworld.com, shiekh@dinecollege.edu, jk@novawireless.net, Enrique@taxbliss.com, timolthy_keithy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Yet again: A gentle reminder about email 'netiquette' In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.1.20030416114738.00b64c00@laptop-localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.bawug.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.bawug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 X-Original-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:53:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:53:07 -0700 X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=0.11.1.3 Are you and John Navas cousins? On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 12:37:46PM -0700, Ross Finlayson wrote: > When responding to an earlier message, please remember to trim your > response so that it quotes *only* the relevant section(s) of the original > message. Please don't include the whole of the original message (unless it > was very small). > > If your email client - for whatever reason - makes it difficult to do this, > then please consider using a different one. > > Could the organizers of this mailing list please configure it to > automatically reject any submission that contains the string "----- > Original Message -----"? This will help educate Microsoft Outlook users > (who tend to be the worse offenders) about how to reply correctly. > > Ross. > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Steve Rubin / AE6CH / Phone: (408)406-1308 Email: ser@tch.org / N57DL / http://www.tch.org/~ser/ -- general wireless list, a bawug thing [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Wed Apr 16 22:05:47 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: References: <20030416165315.GH19740@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030417050547.GA11570@callisto.jtan.com> On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 11:14:43AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > So when the revolution comes, we can count you in? Anyone with any street smarts _at all_ knows better than to trust some pansy-ass liberal tree-hugger to watch his back. You guys are all elitist snobs who actually detest the downtrodden oppress'd of the earth, the very ones you claim to be speaking and fighting for. In short, you're Stalinists pure and simple. So fuck off, huh? -- Bob Bernstein From nick at zork.net Thu Apr 17 01:28:10 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 16 April 2003] Message-ID: <20030417082810.GA22575@zork.net> ha ha novell ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE, WHO NEEDS MICROSOFT? "Linux is an immature operating system. It hasn't had somebody like Novell worrying about making it robust, reliable and scalable." Novell CEO Jack Messman, on how he expects the moribund Utah software firm will do more for Linux than lightweights like IBM, Sun, and HP, ComputerWeekly, 16 April 2003 http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=121012 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ditherati appears daily on weekdays. An archive is online at http://www.ditherati.net/archive/ Quotes of note? Send 'em to . Want to advertise in Ditherati? Write to . Want off the list? Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ditherati.net/mailman/listinfo/ditherati/ Not able to use the Web form? Send email to: ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From jason at sopko.net Thu Apr 17 04:37:02 2003 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 16 April 2003] In-Reply-To: <20030417082810.GA22575@zork.net> References: <20030417082810.GA22575@zork.net> Message-ID: <3E9E91DE.7030502@sopko.net> Nick Moffitt wrote: > ha ha novell Their marketing department must have told him to mention Linux during his speech, in hopes of getting slashdotted or something. We all know that they don't have any money left to make commercials about fireflies or fishbowls. They should be saying, "We have no real mail, dns, ftpd, database or development tools, so we're going to package all of this COOL open source software with our latest version and call it NETWARE 7." or, "Yes, we know we suck. We're hoping that Linux can save us." ///Jason From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Apr 17 11:06:47 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 16 April 2003] In-Reply-To: <20030417082810.GA22575@zork.net> References: <20030417082810.GA22575@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030417180647.GB9669@zgp.org> begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 01:28:10AM -0700: > ha ha novell Novell will take the "immature" Linux operating system and turn it into a "robust, reliable and scaleable" enterprise-class operating system. http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=121012 But if they do that, they have to pay SCO a _billion dollars_. Don't people read the news any more? -- Don Marti Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly http://zgp.org/~dmarti demanding DMCA reform is going to get the dmarti@zgp.org injustice of the DMCA in front of the next KG6INA jury. Make noise. It counts. From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Thu Apr 17 11:06:35 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: <20030417050547.GA11570@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Anyone with any street smarts _at all_ knows better than to trust some > pansy-ass liberal tree-hugger to watch his back. You guys are all > elitist snobs who actually detest the downtrodden oppress'd of the > earth, the very ones you claim to be speaking and fighting for. In > short, you're Stalinists pure and simple. So when the revolution comes, you're signing up as a lampshade? From jv at zork.net Thu Apr 17 11:27:19 2003 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: Achilles' Heel Retrofit Project: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 16 April 2003] In-Reply-To: <3E9E91DE.7030502@sopko.net> References: <20030417082810.GA22575@zork.net> <3E9E91DE.7030502@sopko.net> Message-ID: <20030417182718.GA20826@zork.net> begin Jason Sopko quotation: > Nick Moffitt wrote: > ha ha novell [...] > "Yes, we know we suck. We're hoping that Linux can save us." Scalability, though... novell sure has our number there; see how: [http://lse.sourceforge.net/] ... approaches scalability A L L W R O N G : "Linux Scalability Effort Homepage "Mission.. To drive Single System Image scalability issues in Linux both from a large systems perspective (large processor counts, IO configs, etc) as well a from an intensive enterprise workload perspective (large number of processes, memory requirements, bandwidth requirements). "Introduction.. This project is made up of several groups interested in using Linux on larger systems and to solve larger problems. Several hardware vendors have committed to Linux running on larger and larger classes of machines as well as with more and more intensive workloads. This project is a community based project for all developers interested increasing the scalability of Linux to meet these challenges. The Linux Scalability Effort is not a traditional SourceForge project. Rather, it is a collection of sub-projects and activities all centered around the common goal of scalability. Recent news regarding the project can be found here." ... such a collection to warrant an honoured tla sub-domain. Some times I think I'm gonna' study that game... be a con man, myself, some day... just one thing bothering me... I might be conning my self. With thanks to the golden earring... -jv From bker at yage.net Thu Apr 17 17:02:25 2003 From: bker at yage.net (bker@yage.net) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hello to all my friends and fans in domestic surveillance In-Reply-To: References: <20030417050547.GA11570@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030418000225.GA953@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 11:06:35AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > So when the revolution comes, you're signing up as a lampshade? It could only be an improvement. -- "The state can't give you free speech, and the state can't take it away. You're born with it, like your eyes, like your ears. Freedom is something you assume, then you wait for someone to try to take it away. The degree to which you resist is the degree to which you are free..." -- Utah Phillips From montaigne at att.net Thu Apr 17 19:23:04 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] AntiSemitesRUs In-Reply-To: References: <20030417050547.GA11570@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030418022304.GB14398@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 11:06:35AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > So when the revolution comes, you're signing up as a lampshade? PMFJI, but which brother are you? The alcoholic brother, the child-molester brother, the shop-lifting brother, the homosexual brother? You must make the Moppetts really really proud! (Credit of course goes to Chris Rock for this bit of business...) -- montaigne From mr.bad at pigdog.org Fri Apr 18 09:29:27 2003 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (mr.bad@pigdog.org) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Science Spam ON THE RISE Message-ID: <20030418162927.GA18569@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> OK, so, it's not actually a crackpot theory, but. -Mr. Bad ----- Forwarded message from "M. Arsid Hussain" ----- X-Originating-IP: [216.236.220.244] X-Originating-Email: [drarshid2003@hotmail.com] From: "M. 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Email address: dr arshid 2003@ hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ----- End forwarded message ----- From mark at symonds.net Fri Apr 18 14:01:42 2003 From: mark at symonds.net (Mark Symonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. Message-ID: <20030418210142.GA10343@symonds.net> Canadia: "If this was prison, you'd be our bitch." http://ih8ufkr.com/humor/Canada.jpg From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 18 14:40:00 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030418210142.GA10343@symonds.net> References: <20030418210142.GA10343@symonds.net> Message-ID: <1050702000.28481.2.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> On Fri, 2003-04-18 at 14:01, Mark Symonds wrote: > Canadia: "If this was prison, you'd be our bitch." If this /were/ prison, you'd be my bitch. -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Fri Apr 18 16:44:50 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030418210142.GA10343@symonds.net> References: <20030418210142.GA10343@symonds.net> Message-ID: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Mark Symonds writes: > Canadia: "If this was prison, you'd be our bitch." > > http://ih8ufkr.com/humor/Canada.jpg Canadian humor is funny and everything, but it's grown-up time now and we've got all the nukes. -- erik bourget | CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the | domestic circle. From apost at recalcitrant.org Fri Apr 18 17:24:52 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> References: <20030418210142.GA10343@symonds.net> <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Message-ID: <20030419002452.GE16239@recalcitrant.org> * Erik Bourget (ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca) [030418 16:50]: > > Canadian humor is funny and everything, but it's grown-up time now and we've > got all the nukes. Since when was this list populated by grown-ups? From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Fri Apr 18 18:37:25 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Message-ID: <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Erik Bourget wrote: > Mark Symonds writes: > > > Canadia: "If this was prison, you'd be our bitch." > > > > http://ih8ufkr.com/humor/Canada.jpg > > Canadian humor is funny and everything, but it's grown-up time now and we've > got all the nukes. > As a prospective McGill university student, I demand you tell me why or why not I should patronise your educational institute. From unpost at hafd.org Fri Apr 18 18:54:20 2003 From: unpost at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030418210142.GA10343@symonds.net> References: <20030418210142.GA10343@symonds.net> Message-ID: <87of338d6b.fsf@eddie.hafd.org> Mark Symonds writes: > Canadia: "If this was prison, you'd be our bitch." > > http://ih8ufkr.com/humor/Canada.jpg http://free.house.cx/~rattus/images/canada.jpg -- Jordan Bettis Plus you could put your cat's diary in TeX and it would look Scientific. -- Don Marti explaining the advantages of TeX From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 18 18:59:11 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 01:37:25AM +0000, Nikolai Krylenko wrote: > As a prospective McGill university student, I demand you tell me why > or why not I should patronise your educational institute. ha ha "demand" -- Bob Bernstein From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Fri Apr 18 19:53:51 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Bob Bernstein writes: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 01:37:25AM +0000, Nikolai Krylenko wrote: > >> As a prospective McGill university student, I demand you tell me why >> or why not I should patronise your educational institute. > > ha ha "demand" No, no, I'll bite. I'm graduating McGill as of, oh, right now. Last final is on the 25th. Yippee. I only know the computer science program, but I really liked it. It's highly theoretical (very little coding), tough enough to keep you up at nights near the end, the profs are very interesting. It's not one of those "cs" courses where in a complete curriculum you learn both visual basic /AND/ visual C++. Of course, this is what everybody will tell you about a school they liked. Bottom line: go to what's cheapest/most convenient. -- erik bourget | CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the | domestic circle. From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us Fri Apr 18 21:39:16 2003 From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:27 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Message-ID: <20030419043916.GC25984@callisto.jtan.com> On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 10:53:51PM -0400, Erik Bourget wrote: > I only know the computer science program, but I really liked it. It's highly > theoretical (very little coding), O? -- Bob Bernstein From schoen at loyalty.org Sat Apr 19 00:23:57 2003 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030419043916.GC25984@callisto.jtan.com> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419043916.GC25984@callisto.jtan.com> Message-ID: <20030419072357.GC21204@zork.net> Bob Bernstein writes: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 10:53:51PM -0400, Erik Bourget wrote: > > > I only know the computer science program, but I really liked it. It's highly > > theoretical (very little coding), > > O? OO? -- Seth David Schoen | Very frankly, I am opposed to people http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | being programmed by others. http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | -- Fred Rogers (1928-2003), | 464 U.S. 417, 445 (1984) From jason at sopko.net Sat Apr 19 04:52:46 2003 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Message-ID: <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> Erik Bourget wrote: > I only know the computer science program, but I really liked it. It's highly > theoretical (very little coding), tough enough to keep you up at nights near > the end, the profs are very interesting. It's not one of those "cs" courses > where in a complete curriculum you learn both visual basic /AND/ visual C++. > > Of course, this is what everybody will tell you about a school they liked. > Bottom line: go to what's cheapest/most convenient. Why would you waste time and pay money to have someone spood feed you information as if you were too stupid to learn it on your own? On top of that, you get to spend even more money on subjects that are totally irrelevant to the core of what you'd like to learn as dictated by some money monkey. The cheapest and most convenient is most likely your local book store or library, duh. And if you really need a person to spoon feed you information, hire a tutor. //Jason From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Sat Apr 19 05:58:23 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> Message-ID: <87y9263aq8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Jason Sopko writes: > Why would you waste time and pay money to have someone spood feed you > information as if you were too stupid to learn it on your own? On top of that, > you get to spend even more money on subjects that are totally irrelevant to > the core of what you'd like to learn as dictated by some money monkey. The > cheapest and most convenient is most likely your local book store or library, > duh. And if you really need a person to spoon feed you information, hire a > tutor. People who go to school primarily for its learning value are already rich. -- erik bourget | CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the | domestic circle. From pgl at yoyo.org Sun Apr 20 07:31:29 2003 From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030419072357.GC21204@zork.net> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419043916.GC25984@callisto.jtan.com> <20030419072357.GC21204@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030420143129.GA16571@yoyo.org> On Apr 19, Seth David Schoen wrote: > Bob Bernstein writes: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 10:53:51PM -0400, Erik Bourget wrote: > > > > > I only know the computer science program, but I really liked it. It's highly > > > theoretical (very little coding), > > > > O? > > OO? OOH! -- A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? -- Nick Moffitt From nkj at iaminsane.com Sun Apr 20 15:04:03 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030420143129.GA16571@yoyo.org> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419043916.GC25984@callisto.jtan.com> <20030419072357.GC21204@zork.net> <20030420143129.GA16571@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <20030420220403.GA32688@iaminsane.com> On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 03:31:29PM +0100, Peter Lowe wrote: > On Apr 19, Seth David Schoen wrote: > > Bob Bernstein writes: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 10:53:51PM -0400, Erik Bourget wrote: > > > O? > > > > OO? > > OOH! POOH! From jdub at perkypants.org Sun Apr 20 16:43:33 2003 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030420220403.GA32688@iaminsane.com> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419043916.GC25984@callisto.jtan.com> <20030419072357.GC21204@zork.net> <20030420143129.GA16571@yoyo.org> <20030420220403.GA32688@iaminsane.com> Message-ID: <20030420234333.GC19136@lazarus> > > > > O? > > > > > > OO? > > > > OOH! > > POOH! I see Crackmonkey has turned to shit. - Jeff -- GU4DEC: June 16th-18th in Dublin, Ireland http://www.guadec.org/ I must be getting old... Buying toothpaste with gel in it is no longer an Absolute Necessity. From aelmore at interwoven.com Mon Apr 21 08:31:34 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> Message-ID: <20030421153134.GV30847@interwoven.com> On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 07:52:46AM -0400, Jason Sopko wrote: > Why would you waste time and pay money to have someone spood feed you > information as if you were too stupid to learn it on your own? Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who teaches himself has only a fool for a teacher." From jason at sopko.net Mon Apr 21 08:46:18 2003 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030421153134.GV30847@interwoven.com> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> <20030421153134.GV30847@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <3EA4124A.2080100@sopko.net> Andrew Elmore wrote: > Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who teaches himself has > only a fool for a teacher." Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who uses mutt as a MUA is probably using it to hide his orange dick desktop operating system." Go try to buy more intelligence, and make sure that you pay lots of money for it. ///Jason From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Mon Apr 21 08:58:03 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <3EA4124A.2080100@sopko.net> Message-ID: <20030421155706.R95327-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Jason Sopko wrote: > Andrew Elmore wrote: > > > Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who teaches himself has > > only a fool for a teacher." > > Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who uses mutt as a MUA is > probably using it to hide his orange dick desktop operating system." Go > try to buy more intelligence, and make sure that you pay lots of money > for it. BURN ! AHAH THAT WASAS THE BEST TROL L A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GREAT BUYER PROMPT SERVICE From montaigne at att.net Mon Apr 21 09:29:52 2003 From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <3EA4124A.2080100@sopko.net> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> <20030421153134.GV30847@interwoven.com> <3EA4124A.2080100@sopko.net> Message-ID: <20030421162952.GA800@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 11:46:18AM -0400, Jason Sopko wrote: > Andrew Elmore wrote: > >Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who teaches himself has > >only a fool for a teacher." > Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who uses mutt as a MUA is > probably using it to hide his orange dick desktop operating system." Go > try to buy more intelligence, and make sure that you pay lots of money > for it. Oh look! The little geek children are once again happily playing and cavorting amongst themselves! They're not frightened any more by THE WAR! And, after all, it's for the children after all, isn't it? IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN! Good times; good times. -- montaigne From aelmore at interwoven.com Mon Apr 21 09:29:38 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <3EA4124A.2080100@sopko.net> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> <20030421153134.GV30847@interwoven.com> <3EA4124A.2080100@sopko.net> Message-ID: <20030421162938.GX30847@interwoven.com> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 11:46:18AM -0400, Jason Sopko wrote: > Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who uses mutt as a MUA is > probably using it to hide his orange dick desktop operating system." Go > try to buy more intelligence, and make sure that you pay lots of money > for it. You're right. The background on my two BIGASS monitors here is a GREAT BIG ORANGE FREEBSD. Please help yourself. From silverback at pigdog.org Sun Apr 20 12:26:23 2003 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Orthography of Romance Languages Message-ID: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> So, as I was tooling across the Portuguese countryside the other day, I had a bit of a revelation. I was thinking about Romance languages, which are of course languages derived primarily from Latin. And I was thinking, hey! Every Romance language I know of -- French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian -- uses accented characters on vowels to differentiate between different sounds. But I've never seen a quote in Latin that had even the slightest hint of an accented character. Me and Maj came up with a couple of theories about this, none of which are probably right: 1) Latin _did_ have accented characters, but all the quotes I see are from English sources, and English classicists anglicized the quotes and eliminated all the accented characters. People in France or Spain who read Latin have texts with the accented characters. (I'm pretty sure this is not the case. I've seen a lot of Latin inscriptions on churches, etc., in Latin Europe, and there doesn't seem to be any accent on anything.) 2) Normal, everyday Latin had accented characters, but for inscribing things on walls and buildings, they left the accented characters off (this happens sometimes in French in the current day, btw). People inscribing Latin on buildings and stuff in latter days emulated this practice. (I don't think this is true, either: it would explain big inscriptions, but not literary references, which an educated English-speaker can not go far without bumping into, and none of which have accents in them.) 3) Normal, everyday Latin had accented characters, but a more formal Latin was used for literary documents, side-of-building inscriptions, etc. (This is plausible, but I find it unlikely. I'm not sure how much written Latin there was -- or any written pre-printing language -- that wasn't literary or decorative.) 4) No kind of Latin had accented characters, but people in different parts of the former Empire all developed the use of accents, roughly in parallel, after the fall of Rome. I guess 4) makes the most sense, but it seems weird. Does anyone know the real scoop? ~TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org Sun Apr 20 12:11:38 2003 From: lumberjack-dj at pigdog.org (The Lumberjack DJ) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fair Use Question Message-ID: <87ptnhhtlh.fsf@pigdog.org> So, I have a question about fair use. Have you ever seen a movie where, like, a scene starts with the heroes pulling up in front of a house or a bar in their car, and they have the radio on, and it's just the tiniest snippet of a song, before they turn the car off? Like, 2 or 3 bars of music, just enough so you can or can't recognize the tune? And then in the ending credits, where they list all the music that was in the film, they've got this foot-long attribution for that tiny bit of music, with the performer's name, songwriter's name, publisher's name, album name, as well as, like, "Permission graciously given by Blah Blah Blah Records", etc. I've got the following questions: 0) Would a few-bar snippet of a song in a movie fall under the tenets of fair use? 1) If you incorporate someone else's work into your own work under fair use, are you required to specify what it was, and who holds the copyright? I'm well aware that there are plenty of other reasons why movies have all that credit stuff at the end: because the movie company and the music company are usually the same company; because soundtracks are a big business, so it's important to point out which songs were actually in the movie; because Hollywood folks are big on the idea of buying and selling rights. I'm just wondering: if I made a movie, and I had a few seconds of "Bad To The Bone" in there, would I _have_ to get permission, and give credit? ~LDJ P.S. Happy Flore'al, everyone. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Lumberjack DJ - lumberjack-dj@pigdog.org - http://pigdog.org/ It may be a device-independent networking abstraction to you, But it's a socket to me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nkj at iaminsane.com Mon Apr 21 12:55:39 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Orthography of Romance Languages In-Reply-To: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> References: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> Message-ID: <20030421195539.GA20972@iaminsane.com> On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 08:26:23PM +0100, The Mighty Silverback wrote: > So, as I was tooling across the Portuguese countryside the other day, > I had a bit of a revelation. > > I was thinking about Romance languages, which are of course languages > derived primarily from Latin. And I was thinking, hey! Every Romance > language I know of -- French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian -- uses > accented characters on vowels to differentiate between different > sounds. But I've never seen a quote in Latin that had even the > slightest hint of an accented character. Hey, you forgot Contonese and Finnish! Also, a Southern Drawl gets girls hot. - Nick From e at ericrichardson.com Mon Apr 21 13:04:02 2003 From: e at ericrichardson.com (eric richardson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Orthography of Romance Languages In-Reply-To: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> References: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> Message-ID: <20030421200402.GC1975@gonzo> * The Mighty Silverback (silverback@pigdog.org) wrote: > I was thinking about Romance languages, which are of course languages > derived primarily from Latin. And I was thinking, hey! Every Romance > language I know of -- French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian -- uses > accented characters on vowels to differentiate between different > sounds. But I've never seen a quote in Latin that had even the > slightest hint of an accented character. To quote Wheelock's Latin: <<< Words in Latin, like those in English, were pronounced with extra emphasis on one syllable (or more, in the case of very long words); the placement of this "stress syllable" in Latin (unlike English) followed these strict and simple rules: Because these rules for accentuation are so regular, accent marks (as opposed to macrons) are not ordinarily included when writing Latin. >>> Latin does have macrons, however, to indicate long and short vowels. As with most things, however, ancient Latin really didn't use them. You have to remember that real latin has no spacing or punctuation. e; -- ____ e r i c r i c h a r d s o n - - e@ericrichardson.com _/ __ \ http://ericrichardson.com http://escripting.com \ ___/ http://ethreads.com \___ > \/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 21 13:58:09 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Orthography of Romance Languages In-Reply-To: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> References: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> Message-ID: <20030421205809.GC23479@zork.net> begin The Mighty Silverback quotation: > So, as I was tooling across the Portuguese countryside the other day, > I had a bit of a revelation. 13:56 <@clavicle> ?!?! 13:57 <@clavicle> did he find out that the women have moustaches? -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 21 14:03:43 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Orthography of Romance Languages In-Reply-To: <20030421200402.GC1975@gonzo> References: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030421200402.GC1975@gonzo> Message-ID: <20030421210343.GD23479@zork.net> begin eric richardson quotation: > Latin does have macrons, however, to indicate long and short vowels. > As with most things, however, ancient Latin really didn't use them. > You have to remember that real latin has no spacing or punctuation. Greek, however, did have accents. Greek had accents like some folks have fleas. I never could figure out all the aspiration and diacritical marks in NT Greek, and generally just tried to read it like modern Greek when I had to. Of course, all the romance languages developed semicolons and commas and quotation marks and all sorts of punctuation that didn't exist in Latin. It's possible that most of the languages spoken in pre-roman times used accents, and the grubby little Etruscan grunts took a long time developing their clumsy orthography. -- end From nick at zork.net Mon Apr 21 14:15:04 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [jdub@perkypants.org: Re: RPM problem--trying to build Evolution 1.3.1] Message-ID: <20030421211504.GE23479@zork.net> The GARNOME list is full of live ones. ----- Forwarded message from Jeff Waugh ----- > error: failed dependencies: > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by pilot-link-0.11.7-1mdk > > So, I go and get glibc-2.3.2-2mdk.i586.rpm and try to install it, and I > get this error: This is when you stop playing with random RPMs and make sure you're installing what's appropriate for your distribution version. You do *not* want to upgrade glibc willy-nilly! > So, I then search on the internet if I can get just the libc.so.6 file > to put in the /lib directory. AAAAARGH! > I then realize that I ALREADY have this file in my /lib directory on my > computer. Otherwise your system simply would not run. The C library is a very important part of your operating system. :-) > My question is really, why does the pilot-link rpm not recognize the fact > that I DO have libc.so.6 on my computer? Thanks for any ideas, or help. The pilot-link package you're trying to install is meant for a newer version of the distribution that what you've got. Either a) upgrade your distro or b) find a version of pilot-link for the exact version of the distro you are running. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ "I'm offering you my body, and you're offering me semantics." - Caitlin, Clerks -- garnome-list mailing list garnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/garnome-list ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From vpapad at cse.ogi.edu Mon Apr 21 14:23:01 2003 From: vpapad at cse.ogi.edu (Vassilis Papadimos) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Orthography of Romance Languages In-Reply-To: <20030421210343.GD23479@zork.net> References: <87vfx9dl7k.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030421200402.GC1975@gonzo> <20030421210343.GD23479@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030421212301.GA27758@king.cse.ogi.edu> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 02:03:43PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Greek, however, did have accents. Greek had accents like some > folks have fleas. I never could figure out all the aspiration and > diacritical marks in NT Greek, and generally just tried to read it > like modern Greek when I had to. Classical Greek didn't have accents or any other diacritic marks (no small letters either), they were added in hellenistic times. Damn the Alexandrian scholars. V. From carlos at laviola.org Mon Apr 21 14:19:05 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fair Use Question In-Reply-To: <87ptnhhtlh.fsf@pigdog.org> References: <87ptnhhtlh.fsf@pigdog.org> Message-ID: <20030421211905.GA12523@laviola.org> On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 08:11:38PM +0100, The Lumberjack DJ wrote: > 1) If you incorporate someone else's work into your own work > under fair use, are you required to specify what it was, and > who holds the copyright? I'm pretty sure that is not mandatory. Just look at the plethora of albums that are coming out with samples -- some entirely based on them (cf. Amon Tobin's work, for instance), some just using a riff or whatever. There are specifics to this, like you can't use more than N seconds, otherwise you have to get permission, but I don't know them. Your questions would be easily answered by someone more familiar with copyright law than us crackmonkey dwellers, probably. -- Carlos Laviola From nick at zork.net Mon Apr 21 15:48:28 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20030421224827.GG23479@zork.net> I don't remember half of these pfuqrz by the time they leave. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- steve.smith@adacel.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From nick at zork.net Mon Apr 21 15:48:55 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] <-- emad Message-ID: <20030421224855.GH23479@zork.net> Yeah. Disinformation. ----- Forwarded message from crackmonkey-admin@crackmonkey.org ----- As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List: CrackMonkey@crackmonkey.org From: ruben@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation Reason: Message has implicit destination ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Apr 21 16:02:56 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] <-- emad In-Reply-To: <20030421224855.GH23479@zork.net> References: <20030421224855.GH23479@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030421230256.GJ23479@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > List: CrackMonkey@crackmonkey.org > From: ruben@mrbrklyn.com > Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation > Reason: Message has implicit destination Ha ha. He tried again with a massive Cc list. Crosspost kook powers, ACTIVATE! -- end From squinky at dasbistro.com Tue Apr 22 13:16:23 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fair Use Question In-Reply-To: <20030421211905.GA12523@laviola.org> References: <87ptnhhtlh.fsf@pigdog.org> <20030421211905.GA12523@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20030422201623.GB27514@dasbistro.com> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 06:19:05PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 08:11:38PM +0100, The Lumberjack DJ wrote: > > 1) If you incorporate someone else's work into your own work > > under fair use, are you required to specify what it was, and > > who holds the copyright? > > I'm pretty sure that is not mandatory. Just look at the plethora of > albums that are coming out with samples -- some entirely based on them > (cf. Amon Tobin's work, for instance), some just using a riff or > whatever. There are specifics to this, like you can't use more than N > seconds, otherwise you have to get permission, but I don't know them. My understanding is that you have to get permission if it's recognizable, which is a nice murky definition that is effectively meaningless and therefore, in the legal sense, has no goddamned effect on anything. Most songs these days that use insane amounts of samples do so not only with permission, but with painstaking care to put all credits in the liner notes. I imagine giving credit in a movie to a song that gives credit to another artist works through the transitive property. Vanilla Ice tried sampling Queen and David Bowie with neither permission nor credit, and he ended up getting dangled from a balcony by Suge Knight. Therefore, I'd recommend giving credit to Mr. Thorogood in your hypothetical movie. Think of what could happen. He's bad to the bone and knows at least three chords. > Your questions would be easily answered by someone more familiar with > copyright law than us crackmonkey dwellers, probably. Aye. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Apr 22 15:56:43 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? Message-ID: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org>
crashes Microsoft Internet Explorer? April Fool, right? http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/319421/2003-04-19/2003-04-25/0 -- Don Marti Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly http://zgp.org/~dmarti demanding DMCA reform is going to get the dmarti@zgp.org injustice of the DMCA in front of the next KG6INA jury. Make noise. It counts. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Apr 22 16:09:10 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> References: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20030422230910.GQ23479@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: >
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> > crashes Microsoft Internet Explorer? April Fool, right? > > http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/319421/2003-04-19/2003-04-25/0 If you put it in an HTML e-mail, will it crash outlook? -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Apr 22 16:16:53 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <20030422230910.GQ23479@zork.net> References: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> <20030422230910.GQ23479@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030422231653.GS23479@zork.net> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > > http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/319421/2003-04-19/2003-04-25/0 > > If you put it in an HTML e-mail, will it crash outlook? Presumably yes, according to this: > >This HTML also crash Outlook, Frontpage, and all the Microsoft > >programs that use the shlwapi.dll library to render web code. -- end From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Tue Apr 22 16:36:25 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. In-Reply-To: <20030421162952.GA800@localhost.localdomain> References: <87istb8j65.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <20030419013638.A99139-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030419015911.GA25984@callisto.jtan.com> <87n0inuri8.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> <3EA1388E.4090202@sopko.net> <20030421153134.GV30847@interwoven.com> <3EA4124A.2080100@sopko.net> <20030421162952.GA800@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <877k9myuiu.fsf@mjollnir.odinnet> Michel de Montaigne writes: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 11:46:18AM -0400, Jason Sopko wrote: > >> Andrew Elmore wrote: > >> >Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who teaches himself has >> >only a fool for a teacher." > >> Possibly you haven't heard the aphorism, "He who uses mutt as a MUA is >> probably using it to hide his orange dick desktop operating system." Go >> try to buy more intelligence, and make sure that you pay lots of money >> for it. > > Oh look! The little geek children are once again happily playing and > cavorting amongst themselves! They're not frightened any more by THE WAR! > > And, after all, it's for the children after all, isn't it? IT'S FOR THE > CHILDREN! > > Good times; good times. Gnus! -- erik bourget | CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the | domestic circle. From squinky at dasbistro.com Tue Apr 22 17:11:39 2003 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> References: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20030423001139.GF27514@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 03:56:43PM -0700, Don Marti wrote: > >
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> > > crashes Microsoft Internet Explorer? April Fool, right? Just tested it on a wintookay machine and I swear to God it crashed. -- not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/ From tomduffy at dslextreme.com Tue Apr 22 17:30:01 2003 From: tomduffy at dslextreme.com (Tom Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> References: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> Message-ID: <1051057794.29517.3.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com> On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 15:56, Don Marti wrote: > >
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> > > crashes Microsoft Internet Explorer? April Fool, right? Well, it makes Evolution look like shit. -- "[ SUV drivers are ] insecure and vain. They are frequently nervous about their marriages and uncomfortable about parenthood. They often lack confidence in their driving skills. Above all, they are apt to be self-centered and self-absorbed, with little interest in their neighbors and communities." -- Keith Bradsher reporting on SUV automakers' own market research From nick at zork.net Tue Apr 22 18:00:47 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030423010046.GT23479@zork.net> Get out. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- Michael@satut.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From dave at zork.net Tue Apr 22 18:39:07 2003 From: dave at zork.net (The One True Dave Barry) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20030423010046.GT23479@zork.net> References: <20030423010046.GT23479@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030423013907.GA15647@zork.net> Quothe Nick Moffitt , on Tue, Apr 22, 2003: > Get out. > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > Michael@satut.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- COMPLY! -- Bush War One Bush War Two They got a war for me, they got a war for you. --Michael Franti From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Tue Apr 22 18:59:09 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <20030423001139.GF27514@dasbistro.com> References: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> <20030423001139.GF27514@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <87k7dmht3m.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> Not Erik writes: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 03:56:43PM -0700, Don Marti wrote: >> >>
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>> >> >> crashes Microsoft Internet Explorer? April Fool, right? > > Just tested it on a wintookay machine and I swear to God it crashed. Somebody see if this can be incorporated into a ninja mailheader crash. -- erik bourget | CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the | domestic circle. From apost at recalcitrant.org Tue Apr 22 19:29:44 2003 From: apost at recalcitrant.org (Alan Post) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <87k7dmht3m.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> References: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> <20030423001139.GF27514@dasbistro.com> <87k7dmht3m.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20030423022943.GD1454@recalcitrant.org> * Erik Bourget (ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca) [030422 19:06]: > > Somebody see if this can be incorporated into a ninja mailheader crash. > Send multipart mime mail with an html alternative containing the nastygram. "Experiential learning." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Apr 22 20:53:03 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <20030423022943.GD1454@recalcitrant.org> References: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> <20030423001139.GF27514@dasbistro.com> <87k7dmht3m.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> <20030423022943.GD1454@recalcitrant.org> Message-ID: <20030423035303.GW23479@zork.net> begin Alan Post quotation: > * Erik Bourget (ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca) [030422 19:06]: > > Somebody see if this can be incorporated into a ninja mailheader > > crash. > > Send multipart mime mail with an html alternative containing > the nastygram. That's not so much ninja as samurai. We're not looking for "bash the front door down swinging a chainsaw" as "poison their drinks when they're not looking". -- end From radix42 at cox.net Tue Apr 22 21:00:21 2003 From: radix42 at cox.net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422210009.02a06970@pop.west.cox.net> At 05:30 PM 4/22/2003, you wrote: >On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 15:56, Don Marti wrote: > > > >
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> > > > > > crashes Microsoft Internet Explorer? April Fool, right? > >Well, it makes Evolution look like shit. I also just HAD to go and try this on a Windows box. It does indeed make it crash if opened in IE, but it does it with any other invalid "input type", such as "barf" or "foobar". So, shocker, yet another place the boy geniuses up in Redmond (we hire only the brightest!) didn't validate input. From krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org Tue Apr 22 21:37:54 2003 From: krylenko at m-net.arbornet.org (Nikolai Krylenko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What the Netherlands Thinks of You Message-ID: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> The Netherlands, despite being on the Coalition of the Willing, generally does not like the War on the Iraq. Let me state this firmly: No - war under any conditions but proof of evil against other nations. It would seem to me the USA is, while winning militarily, defeated by its own rhetoric. Observe: The USA is using infantry to rid the world of biological weapons. But let's us let us look at it this way, for just a moment: Infantry is a weapon which is biological! Secondly, nuclears/planet busters: All people have nucleii MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS in their bodies! They're therefore quickly capable of being a nuclear weapon. The world doesn't like being bullied. And the USA doesn't like that. Look at their simple ways: When back in WW1 time, sauerkraut became freedom cabbage. Current ways, when France fought back, some USA people latched onto this and disrespected sovereignty by allowing to come to "freedom fries", as if that were to somehow be bad? While USA may find it appropriate to stamp and whine like a child, perhaps it is interested in joining the EU? I'm sure exception would be made; Turkey, afterall, is much of in Asia. Finally, look at fatness of many Americasn. In Netherlands, we have teachers look in childs' lunch pails for low-level contraband (ie, unhealthy junkfood.) This introduces two problems: Firstly, kids get fat from it, and secondly it is sometimes unfair to them when one child has many candy (possibly all) and other child has little candy (possibly none). Americas encourage childs to eat unhealthy through junkfood vendors on school premises, fast-food advertisements, etc. In Netherlands, fourty five per cent or more of all trips are biked, walked, ran, but rarely cared. It is no wonder many USA is fat when they are always on and off car and trolley. P.S. It is very good to be here. Also,a ndyone interested in publishning my essays on a professional scale? I think Americans would be interested in learning such things from the perspective of the Dudch. From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Tue Apr 22 21:35:25 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422210009.02a06970@pop.west.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422210009.02a06970@pop.west.cox.net> Message-ID: <87k7dl25ma.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> David Mercer writes: > At 05:30 PM 4/22/2003, you wrote: >>On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 15:56, Don Marti wrote: >> > >> >
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>> > >> > >> > crashes Microsoft Internet Explorer? April Fool, right? >> >>Well, it makes Evolution look like shit. > > I also just HAD to go and try this on a Windows box. It does indeed > make it crash if opened in IE, but it does it with any other invalid "input > type", such as "barf" or "foobar". > > So, shocker, yet another place the boy geniuses up in Redmond (we hire > only the brightest!) didn't validate input. Actually, it's two, two, two bugs in one. (well, one or the other. I say, fire 'em both.) a) the guy writing the grammar assumed that it should be general. tag ::== '<' * '>' tagname ::== + tagoption ::== + '=' + | + rather than tagoption ::== 'type' '=' + | 'foo' '=' | ... etc, specifics instead of generals b) the next guy on the assembly line didn't make sure that the parse tree was built correctly when he went to traverse it, assuming that the parser handled that stuff. ----> NULL /* shouldn't assume that there was an '=' */ On a side note; before you investigated that, did you honestly think that it was the word 'crash' that caused the crash? That would imply some sort of misplaced pseudo-cleverness/maliciousness with the boys down in Redmond. -- erik bourget | CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the | domestic circle. From sam at dasbistro.com Tue Apr 22 21:44:08 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:28 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Musical Selection Message-ID: <20030423044408.GT24862@dasbistro.com> No matter what someone tells you, do not take the "Lizzy McGuire Movie Soundtrack" CD. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Apr 22 21:46:51 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <87k7dl25ma.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422210009.02a06970@pop.west.cox.net> <87k7dl25ma.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20030423044651.GZ23479@zork.net> begin Erik Bourget quotation: > On a side note; before you investigated that, did you honestly > think that it was the word 'crash' that caused the crash? That > would imply some sort of misplaced pseudo-cleverness/maliciousness > with the boys down in Redmond. Of course not. That just helps the press-release-forwarding newspaper monkeys file their stories more effectively. -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Apr 22 21:48:59 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What the Netherlands Thinks of You In-Reply-To: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030423044859.GA23479@zork.net> begin Nikolai Krylenko quotation: > P.S. It is very good to be here. Also,a ndyone interested in > publishning my essays on a professional scale? I think Americans > would be interested in learning such things from the perspective of > the Dudch. http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER21 -- end From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Apr 22 21:49:18 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Musical Selection In-Reply-To: <20030423044408.GT24862@dasbistro.com> References: <20030423044408.GT24862@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030423044918.GB23479@zork.net> begin Sam Phillips quotation: > No matter what someone tells you, do not take the "Lizzy McGuire > Movie Soundtrack" CD. Okay, I'll bite. -- end From sam at dasbistro.com Tue Apr 22 22:01:17 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Musical Selection In-Reply-To: <20030423044918.GB23479@zork.net> References: <20030423044408.GT24862@dasbistro.com> <20030423044918.GB23479@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030423050117.GU24862@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 09:49:18PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Sam Phillips quotation: > > No matter what someone tells you, do not take the "Lizzy McGuire > > Movie Soundtrack" CD. > > Okay, I'll bite. It's all those "hip" people you see hanging out. You figure "Hey they're all hip and shit." And then they loan you a CD they'd think you'd like. Oh, and they tell you they're 12. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Tue Apr 22 22:04:26 2003 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What the Netherlands Thinks of You In-Reply-To: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> References: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <878yu13iud.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> Nikolai Krylenko writes: > It would seem to me the USA is, while winning militarily, defeated by > its own rhetoric. Observe: The USA is using infantry to rid the world > of biological weapons. But let's us let us look at it this way, for > just a moment: Infantry is a weapon which is biological! Secondly, > nuclears/planet busters: All people have nucleii MILLIONS UPON > MILLIONS in their bodies! They're therefore quickly capable of being a > nuclear weapon. Once upon a time, there was a university freshman named Erik. He failed his biology class, thought nothing of it, and went on to finish a computer science degree. Little did he know that his last exam ever would be his old foe, Biology 112. If it were not for Bio112, he would be intoxicated at this very moment. Your mail has made me question, did he mean atomic or cell nuclei? And for that, I will always hate you and your people. And it's trillions. -- erik bourget | CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the | domestic circle. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Apr 22 22:16:22 2003 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Musical Selection In-Reply-To: <20030423050117.GU24862@dasbistro.com> References: <20030423044408.GT24862@dasbistro.com> <20030423044918.GB23479@zork.net> <20030423050117.GU24862@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20030423051622.GG23479@zork.net> begin Sam Phillips quotation: > > Okay, I'll bite. > > It's all those "hip" people you see hanging out. You figure "Hey > they're all hip and shit." And then they loan you a CD they'd think > you'd like. > > > Oh, and they tell you they're 12. Sorry. The correct answer is "You promise?" -- end From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Apr 22 22:21:53 2003 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] no fucking way....right? In-Reply-To: <20030423035303.GW23479@zork.net> References: <20030422225643.GG12990@zgp.org> <20030423001139.GF27514@dasbistro.com> <87k7dmht3m.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> <20030423022943.GD1454@recalcitrant.org> <20030423035303.GW23479@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030423052153.GD17322@zgp.org> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 08:53:03PM -0700: > begin Alan Post quotation: > > Send multipart mime mail with an html alternative containing > > the nastygram. > > That's not so much ninja as samurai. We're not looking for > "bash the front door down swinging a chainsaw" as "poison their drinks > when they're not looking". A ninja would make a pop-under that sits there for twenty minutes or so, then does a refresh to the MSIE-killer. That way, the user would be unlikely to associate the crash with the ninja site. -- Don Marti Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly http://zgp.org/~dmarti demanding DMCA reform is going to get the dmarti@zgp.org injustice of the DMCA in front of the next KG6INA jury. Make noise. It counts. From sam at dasbistro.com Tue Apr 22 23:20:24 2003 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Musical Selection In-Reply-To: <20030423051622.GG23479@zork.net> References: <20030423044408.GT24862@dasbistro.com> <20030423044918.GB23479@zork.net> <20030423050117.GU24862@dasbistro.com> <20030423051622.GG23479@zork.net> Message-ID: <20030423062023.GV24862@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 10:16:22PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Sam Phillips quotation: > > > Okay, I'll bite. > > > > It's all those "hip" people you see hanging out. You figure "Hey > > they're all hip and shit." And then they loan you a CD they'd think > > you'd like. > > > > > > Oh, and they tell you they're 12. > > Sorry. The correct answer is "You promise?" If there is one thing that this list proves it is that there is such a thing as overthinking. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From vpapad at cse.ogi.edu Wed Apr 23 10:58:03 2003 From: vpapad at cse.ogi.edu (Vassilis Papadimos) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] "tooth fairy" exposed Message-ID: <20030423175803.GA3801@king.cse.ogi.edu> The "tooth fairy" myth has been finally exposed as the work of evil scientists, harvesting stem cells: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/04/030422075224.htm Stop baby teeth exploitation! V. From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Wed Apr 23 11:22:56 2003 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What the Netherlands Thinks of You In-Reply-To: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Nikolai Krylenko wrote: > Finally, look at fatness of many Americasn. > Netherlands, fourty five per cent or more of all trips are biked, > walked, ran, but rarely cared. It is no wonder many USA is fat when > they are always on and off car and trolley. People from the Netherlands are totally fat. Out of all the countries I visited, the Dutch were definitely the fattest. From nkj at iaminsane.com Wed Apr 23 11:38:40 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What the Netherlands Thinks of You In-Reply-To: References: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030423183840.GB2827@iaminsane.com> On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 11:22:56AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > > People from the Netherlands are totally fat. Out of all the countries I > visited, the Dutch were definitely the fattest. This stems from the long ago superior trade power the Dutch once enjoyed. At one time the Dutch were *the* super power in all of Europe. Masters of the sea, and of world trade. Amsterdam was once the most advanced and wealthy city in all of Europe. Decadence was a trademark of the Dutch people. It was fashionable to be big and fat. They ate lots of blubber and chocolate and shit. - Nick From vipvop-cm at musesick.org Wed Apr 23 13:19:25 2003 From: vipvop-cm at musesick.org (MC MeatFlaps) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What the Netherlands Thinks of You In-Reply-To: References: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> Message-ID: <20030423201925.GA14442@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 11:22:56AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > People from the Netherlands are totally fat. Out of all the countries I > visited, the Dutch were definitely the fattest. Of course they're fat, they can walk down to the local coffee shop and get a couple of grams of hash whenever they feel like it. Since it's so cheap over there they still have money left over after they smoke to purchase all the baked goods they can eat from the coffee shop. They do have the highest ratio of good looking to ugly women out of any country I've seen though. -- http://www.haikusrus.com From jv at zork.net Wed Apr 23 13:22:15 2003 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: Venice sux less than recently, but still sux (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] What the Netherlands Thinks of You) In-Reply-To: <878yu13iud.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> References: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <878yu13iud.fsf@cs.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20030423202215.GA1737@zork.net> Once upon a time there were a radio pirate named Juggler Vain. -jv p.s... the river runs right to my door... my thanks for Erik's fluffing Nikoli's surrealistic pillow, metapyrophoric PyrE, cellular automata From nick at zork.net Wed Apr 23 16:12:01 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@tastytronic.net: ufo subscription notification] Message-ID: <20030423231201.GO23479@zork.net> Go Away. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@tastytronic.net ----- cliffkent@attbi.com has been successfully subscribed to ufo. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From henrik at enberg.org Wed Apr 23 18:58:06 2003 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Unix-Haters Handbook Message-ID: <87wuhk1wsx.fsf@enberg.org> The complete book. Quite funny at times, but a bit too much sour "Lisp Weenie Nothing Beats My Old Symbolics" grapes overall. From nick at zork.net Thu Apr 24 09:54:30 2003 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [crackmonkey-admin@crackmonkey.org: CrackMonkey post from ruben@mrbrklyn.com requires approval] Message-ID: <20030424165430.GR23479@zork.net> Ha ha, more giant Ccing. ----- Forwarded message from crackmonkey-admin@crackmonkey.org ----- As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List: CrackMonkey@crackmonkey.org From: ruben@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [d@DCC] [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation Reason: Too many recipients to the message ----- End forwarded message ----- -- end From aelmore at interwoven.com Thu Apr 24 13:44:38 2003 From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Unix-Haters Handbook In-Reply-To: <87wuhk1wsx.fsf@enberg.org> References: <87wuhk1wsx.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20030424204438.GI55758@interwoven.com> On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 03:58:06AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > > > > The complete book. Quite funny at times, but a bit too much sour > "Lisp Weenie Nothing Beats My Old Symbolics" grapes overall. My favorite bit (from the foreword): "As for me? I switched to the Mac. No more grep, no more piping, no more SED scripts." I'm teaching my dad to grep, pipe, sed, vi on his OS X laptop. Ha Ha. From nkj at iaminsane.com Thu Apr 24 14:16:49 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Unix-Haters Handbook In-Reply-To: <20030424204438.GI55758@interwoven.com> References: <87wuhk1wsx.fsf@enberg.org> <20030424204438.GI55758@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <20030424211648.GB2919@iaminsane.com> On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 01:44:38PM -0700, Andrew Elmore wrote: > > I'm teaching my dad to grep, pipe, sed, vi on his OS X laptop. > > Ha Ha. What's so funny about humiliating your father? You are a sick and ungrateful son. - Nick From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Thu Apr 24 18:50:16 2003 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (J. M. Brenner) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Unix-Haters Handbook In-Reply-To: Message from Andrew Elmore of "Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:44:38 PDT." <20030424204438.GI55758@interwoven.com> References: <87wuhk1wsx.fsf@enberg.org> <20030424204438.GI55758@interwoven.com> Message-ID: <200304250150.h3P1oHn83534@mail0.rawbw.com> Henrik Enberg wrote: > > > The complete book. Quite funny at times, but a bit too much sour > "Lisp Weenie Nothing Beats My Old Symbolics" grapes overall. I think the chapter on X is one of the better X-windows tutorials around (though unreasonable people may disagree). There are a bunch of things that seem a bit off about the whole project though... the real issue seems to be the idea that designed systems always preferable to evolved ones, but they don't often really address the point. And they also seem to be living in some odd alternate reality where Microsoft doesn't exist. Michael Tiemann says that Unix is "The World's Worst Operating System" *in 1990*. From edmonds at robertedmonds.net Thu Apr 24 18:51:35 2003 From: edmonds at robertedmonds.net (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia. Message-ID: <20030425015135.GA7882@tasteebros> http://stu.ddts.net/canadia.png -- Robert Edmonds edmonds@robertedmonds.net From carlos at laviola.org Thu Apr 24 20:11:44 2003 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] What the Netherlands Thinks of You In-Reply-To: <20030423201925.GA14442@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> References: <20030423043413.P59943-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> <20030423201925.GA14442@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> Message-ID: <20030425031144.GA3652@laviola.org> On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 01:19:25PM -0700, MC MeatFlaps wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 11:22:56AM -0700, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > > People from the Netherlands are totally fat. Out of all the countries I > > visited, the Dutch were definitely the fattest. > > Of course they're fat, they can walk down to the local coffee shop and > get a couple of grams of hash whenever they feel like it. Since it's > so cheap over there they still have money left over after they smoke > to purchase all the baked goods they can eat from the coffee shop. > > They do have the highest ratio of good looking to ugly women out of > any country I've seen though. http://beautifulzueri.blogspot.com -- Carlos Laviola From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Thu Apr 24 21:45:43 2003 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:58:29 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 16 April 2003] In-Reply-To: <20030417180647.GB9669@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 14:06:47 -0400 References: <20030417082810.GA22575@zork.net> <20030417180647.GB9669@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20030425004543.A11903@www2.mrbrklyn.com> But with DRM you'll have to pay Transmeta 12 Billion or the networth of MP3.com Ruben On 2003.04.17 14:06 Don Marti wrote: > begin Nick Moffitt quo