[!CrackMonkey!] A personal message from Cleo just for you!
mike dillon (Agent Orange Dick)
mike at embody.org
Fri Oct 4 17:58:46 PDT 2002
begin Mister Bad quotation:
> You, Mr. Dillon, will need to back that one up.
> The plural of the English word "agendum" is "agenda." Putting together
> a bunch of groups of agenda will not give you "agendas" or "agendae",
> but just more "agenda."
With the resources at my disposal, I can only use the paltry
Merriam-Webster Dictionary (abridged) to do it:
Main Entry: agen-da
Etymology: Latin, neuter plural of agendum, gerundive of agere
1 : a list or outline of things to be considered or done <agendas of
2 : an underlying often ideological plan or program <a political agenda>
Main Entry: agen-dum
Inflected Form(s): plural agen-da /-d&/; or -dums
Date: circa 1847
1 : [see] AGENDA
2 : an item on an agenda
Notice the sample phrases for "agenda", which say "agendas" and "a[n]
... agenda". Also, notice that definition 2 of "agendum" says "on _an_
agenda". If I had a copy of the OED, I could give examples that have
actually been published, but I don't.
Perhaps I should do some statistical analysis of the Brown corpora or
> Your agenda and my agenda put together make "our agenda."
That's true, but only because the meaning of "an agenda" refers to a
group, which can be combined with another group to make a different,
still singular group.
> That said, "agenda" _is_ a singular noun in English, but not in the
> sense you were using it. It's the name for a datebook or personal
> calendar, and as such should be pluralized as "agendas," as in, "Bob
> and Caroline were so astounded that the red leather agendas they
> carried were completely identical that they proceeded to have
> passionate sex on the conference table."
That is simply an extension of the "a list of things to be done"
meaning; i.e. "a book for holding agendas".
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