[!CrackMonkey!] A personal message from Cleo just for you!

[Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco]

begin  The Mighty Silverback  quotation:
> Well, that's because Microsoft programmers aren't actually allowed
> to write code. They have to use the horrendous Visual [Language]
> tools, which automagically create code, which is verbose and
> horrible, and no wonder they get so many goddamn bugs.

	True enough.  I got fed up with USF's CS curriculum (which was
actually a Software Engineering trade school degree pretending to be a
Science degree) after one class on software development.  Basically I
managed to solve a number of projects by convincing the group that C++
was not the best language for the job, and picking a language to fit
the problem.  I mean hey, we're all programmers and learning new
languages is *NOTHING*!

	But no, the teacher gave us all horrible bad grades, while all
the other kids got good ones despite NEVER GETTING THE PROJECT DONE.
Why did they not get it done?  Well it seems that Microsoft had
point-released the visual gargargar C++ stuff, and the prof spent
HOURS in the lab with the students using frame widgetizers and stuff
and generating REAMS of code that left seven or eight little comments
that said:

	// Your code goes here

	And then he'd tear out his hair over all these library calls
that didn't work the way his old code did and gar gar gar.  The real
irony is that this course was *not about tools or languages* but
rather about *development practices* that are supposed to help you
*ship on time*.  Even though I found the notion of a fucking
UNIVERSITY course geared toward that sort of worker-training bullshit
kind of disgusting, it kind of amused me that we all got lousy grades
for not banging our head against proprietary development tools like
everyone else did.

	Also, my code ran from foo.usfca.edu (precursor to zork), and
displayed its X11R6 output on the AIX workstations in the lab.  That's
partly how I got folks to work on the project in another language --
there was always a unix box free during lab time, and we could all
work in the same directory on foo (that was long before CVS became the
standard that it is now).  All of this was lost on Mister
Visual-Programming Wolber.  

	Actually, Wolber's pet project was a "pavlovian programming
system" that was just a reimplementation of some of the old hypercard
ideas.  The punchline is that programming was too hard for him so he
had his grad students write the thing.  Ha ha David Wolber.

	Yeah.  Ha ha.

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