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simm at zork.net
Thu Nov 14 10:56:15 PST 2002
begin Shawn McMahon quotation:
> IV.89: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have
> disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from
> among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if
> they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them,
> and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
ha ha haa! Beautiful! Ok first of all, let me introduce you to the
concept of a book. When reading a book, each sentence is generally
followed by another sentence. You seem to be unclear on that. So lets
look at the next sentence that you seem to have completely missed
where it clearly says "if they withdraw from you and do not fight you
and offer you peace, then Allah has not given you a way against them."
In case you may be tempted to seriously misunderstand this, it says if
these guys you are fighting with (at the point in time the verses were
revealed) offer you peace, then accept it.
> IX. 5-6: Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may
> find them.
whoo wee doggie. More of the same, except this time you failed to read
the previous sentence! I love this game!!
"(But the treaties are) not
dissolved with those Pagans with whom you have entered into alliance
and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one
against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their
term: for Allah loveth the righteous. "
If you read verses 1-6, it is clear that this is talking about the
dissolving of a treaty with some pagans and that the breaking of the
treaty DOES NOT apply to those who have honored the peace treaty. It
applies to the ones who did not honor them.
And you also rather strangely claimed to be quoting verse 6 which says
"And if anyone of the idolaters seek your protection ,
then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward
convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who
know not. "
Rather disingenious of you.
> VIII.39-42: Say to the Infidels: if they desist from their unbelief,
> what is now past shall be forgiven; but if they return to it, they have
> already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them
> till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's.
Yep. Fight them until there is no more "fitnah" which translates into
a weird mix of mischief and oppression. What a horrible concept,
fighting until the enemy stops harassing you!
By the way, you may be too much a fool to realize this but
"unbelievers" are not the same thing as "infidels." I love seeing you
jr. Islamic scholars who know nothign about the arabic language try to
equate the two.
> Saying the majority of Muslims believe in the Koran isn't racism.
Ascribing HORRIBLY WRONG interpretations to the Koran and then
summarily claiming that you have the TRUE interpretation just so you
can legitamize killing people who's race you don't like is a form of
> Saying the majority of Muslims believe in the Koran in countries where
> saying you don't is punishable by death isn't racism.
Please see above.
> The handful of Muslims who don't want to kill me are either my friends,
> or potential friends; but trying to make me believe I'm safe when I'm
> not isn't helpful. Go convince them to get over the Crusades, that'll
> be helpful.
Oh yes i get it. All of the muslims you've met don't want to kill you,
but all the ones you haven't met do. That is perfectly logical!
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