From sneakums at zork.net Fri Mar 1 00:35:07 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: (Crack Monkey's message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:35:45 -0800") References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <6u4rk0y9c4.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Crack Monkey quotation: > begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: >> Holy Manoli! It's working again! > > So, who here wants to peer with my leafnode instance? If you could make it sound less like an illegal act, you might get some responses. -- "WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHAAAAAAAAA!!! I'M CRAAAAAZY SIGGMUNDD!!!! GAR!!! GAR!!! GAR!!! GAR!!! GAR!!! NEE'ME S'MORE O'THAT SHIT!" -- mike dillon From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Mar 1 01:21:16 2002 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Boing Boing on crack and monkeys Message-ID: <20020301092116.GJ11212@zork.net> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2002/02/27/state0913EST0043.DTL A Las Vegas man who admitted stealing a monkey last year and trading the animal for crack cocaine and marijuana has been sentenced to three years and six months in prison. (via Boing Boing) -- Seth David Schoen | Reading is a right, not a feature! http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | -- Kathryn Myronuk http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | From sneakums at zork.net Fri Mar 1 03:16:27 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: <6u4rk0y9c4.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:35:07 +0000") References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> <6u4rk0y9c4.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <6upu2ownas.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Sean Neakums quotation: > commence Crack Monkey quotation: >> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: >>> Holy Manoli! It's working again! >> So, who here wants to peer with my leafnode instance? > > If you could make it sound less like an illegal act, you might get > some responses. I've been thinking about that and giggling to myself all morning. It sounds like a REALLY BAD pick-up line: "Hey baby, wanna peer with my leafnode instance?". It keeps going 'round and around in my head, and now I'm grinning like a goon and trying to not laugh, so my grin is becoming a rictus. People are looking at me funny. Help! -- "The man who laughs at standards--that man must be put down. We are none of us perfect; I know that. But we must agree on what perfection is." -- Joe Gendreau, California Weights and Measures From ron at vnetworx.net Fri Mar 1 05:22:26 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (The Subjugator of Port Jefferson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: <6upu2ownas.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> <6u4rk0y9c4.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6upu2ownas.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <1014988952.2724.227.camel@amory> On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 06:16, Sean Neakums wrote: > I've been thinking about that and giggling to myself all morning. It > sounds like a REALLY BAD pick-up line: "Hey baby, wanna peer with my > leafnode instance?". It keeps going 'round and around in my head, and > now I'm grinning like a goon and trying to not laugh, so my grin is > becoming a rictus. People are looking at me funny. Help! Either it will pass, or your face will be frozen that way in death. If the uncontrollable laughter starts, you're doomed. -- "Bad monkey! Stay away from the leafnode crack!" -- Jane Goodall From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Fri Mar 1 06:02:50 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:22:26 EST." <1014988952.2724.227.camel@amory> References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> <6u4rk0y9c4.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6upu2ownas.fsf@zork.zork.net> <1014988952.2724.227.camel@amory> Message-ID: <200203011402.g21E2oWQ008194@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> On Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:22:26 EST, The Subjugator of Port Jefferson said: > Either it will pass, or your face will be frozen that way in death. If > the uncontrollable laughter starts, you're doomed. What about when the laughter stops? From ron at vnetworx.net Fri Mar 1 06:13:08 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (The Subjugator of Port Jefferson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: <200203011402.g21E2oWQ008194@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> <6u4rk0y9c4.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6upu2ownas.fsf@zork.zork.net> <1014988952.2724.227.camel@amory> <200203011402.g21E2oWQ008194@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <1014991988.2727.942.camel@amory> On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 09:02, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:22:26 EST, The Subjugator of Port Jefferson said: > > > Either it will pass, or your face will be frozen that way in death. If > > the uncontrollable laughter starts, you're doomed. > > What about when the laughter stops? The other monkeys draw straws as to who has to bury him. -- "Doesn't anybody care that it's Mailman Day?" -- Ben Franklin From sneakums at zork.net Fri Mar 1 06:25:10 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: <1014991988.2727.942.camel@amory> (The Subjugator of Port Jefferson's message of "01 Mar 2002 09:13:08 -0500") References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> <6u4rk0y9c4.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6upu2ownas.fsf@zork.zork.net> <1014988952.2724.227.camel@amory> <200203011402.g21E2oWQ008194@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <1014991988.2727.942.camel@amory> Message-ID: <6u3czk8iwp.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence The Subjugator of Port Jefferson quotation: > On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 09:02, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: >> On Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:22:26 EST, The Subjugator of Port Jefferson said: >> > Either it will pass, or your face will be frozen that way in >> > death. If the uncontrollable laughter starts, you're doomed. >> What about when the laughter stops? > > The other monkeys draw straws as to who has to bury him. According to Jane, they draw blood. Failing that, unflattering portraits of the desceased. "Dead Neakums; mud and faeces; 2002" -- "Linux is merely a complex GCC test-case, not a serious attempt at a kernel." -- Eamon de Valera From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 08:39:03 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [spork8124012212@zork.net: *****SPAM***** SPAM!] Message-ID: <20020301163903.GW29954@zork.net> Ha ha ----- Forwarded message from spork8124012212@zork.net ----- Envelope-to: nick@zork.net Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:43:34 -0800 From: spork8124012212@zork.net To: nick@zork.net Cc: elharaty@zork.net Subject: *****SPAM***** SPAM! 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From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 08:40:07 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] (HTML stripped out) Message-ID: <20020301164007.GX29954@zork.net> ha ha! ----- Forwarded message from HopeBlister@aol.com ----- Envelope-to: mailman-owner@zork.net From: HopeBlister@aol.com Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:12:16 EST Subject: unsubscribe To: mailman-owner@zork.net X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=4.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.01 unsubscribe ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 08:44:28 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020301164428.GY29954@zork.net> Gaaah! The DUTCH! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- ivo@o2w.nl has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From davej at suse.de Fri Mar 1 08:54:13 2002 From: davej at suse.de (Dave Jones) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020301164428.GY29954@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 08:44:28AM -0800 References: <20020301164428.GY29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301175413.M7662@suse.de> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 08:44:28AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Gaaah! The DUTCH! > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > ivo@o2w.nl has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. I was disappointed to find no-one wearing clogs when I visited .nl It's all a lie. I bet those windmills don't really do anything either. -- | Dave Jones. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk | SuSE Labs From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 08:59:36 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020301165936.GB29954@zork.net> I can't even keep track of these fuqrz any more. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- mlw@cetlink.net has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 09:03:06 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [ruben@mrbrklyn.com: Your Mail is being returned] Message-ID: <20020301170306.GD29954@zork.net> Ruben you fucking fuck. Fix your damn mail filter notifications to tell the difference between list posts and fucking private mail. You do realize, also, that REPLYING to spam messages only INVITES MORE SPAM, don't you? ----- Forwarded message from Ruben I Safir ----- Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control messages with ! in the subject, and other common spam like stuff, is rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend without ! in the subject. Thanks Ruben ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 1 09:09:37 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] cage bout! Message-ID: <20020301090937.A29325@zgp.org> Catholics vs. Libertarians! Yee ha! Git im, Declan! ----- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh ----- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:04:09 -0500 From: Declan McCullagh Subject: FC: Catholic church condemns "radical libertarianism" on Internet To: politech@politechbot.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i X-URL: http://www.mccullagh.org/ Sender: owner-politech@politechbot.com Reply-To: declan@well.com X-URL: Politech is at http://www.politechbot.com/ X-Author: Declan McCullagh is at http://www.mccullagh.org/ X-News-Site: Cluebot is at http://www.cluebot.com/ X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-100.0 required=7.0 tests=A_FROM_IN_AUTO_WLIST version=2.01 See also: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,50757,00.html ----- Forwarded message from Duncan Frissell ----- From: Duncan Frissell To: cypherpunks@lne.com Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:02:42 -0500 (EST) Now we have the proof: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/pccs/documents/rc_pc_pccs_doc_20020228_ethics-internet_en.html PONTIFICAL COUNCIL FOR SOCIAL COMMUNICATIONS ETHICS IN INTERNET "The ideology of radical libertarianism is both mistaken and harmful not least, to legitimate free expression in the service of truth. The error lies in exalting freedom to such an extent that it becomes an absolute, which would then be the source of values....In this way the inescapable claims of truth disappear, yielding their place to a criterion of sincerity, authenticity and being at peace with oneself'. There is no room for authentic community, the common good, and solidarity in this way of thinking." *** Boy, I'm glad I'm an Anglican these days. DCF ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From claviola at alternex.com.br Fri Mar 1 09:14:09 2002 From: claviola at alternex.com.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:33 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] HMD Message-ID: <20020301171409.GB2449@alternex.com.br> Happy Mailman Day! And what a glorious day it is! -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From silverback at pigdog.org Fri Mar 1 09:19:56 2002 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [owen@ditherati.com: D I T H E R A T I for 15 February 2002] In-Reply-To: <20020216135856.A36127@robertedmonds.net> (Robert Edmonds's message of "Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:58:56 -0500") References: <20020216095102.GD875@zork.net> <20020216110314.GF12440@kobayashi.soze.net> <87r8nlqyuc.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020216135856.A36127@robertedmonds.net> Message-ID: <87ofi8jjcz.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "RE" == Robert Edmonds writes: RE> Actually, the correct phrasing of Hanlon's Razor is: RE> "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately RE> explained by stupidity." OK, so, now I guess youre going to tell me that Ben Franklin never actually said that. -TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 09:21:56 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Shadow Government activated Message-ID: <20020301172155.GF29954@zork.net> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Bush_Administration/ > The Bush administration has activated Cold War-era plans for a > "shadow government" consisting of 75 or more senior officials who > live and work secretly outside Washington in case the nation's > capital is crippled by terrorist attack, a senior government > official said Thursday night. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 1 09:30:30 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [ruben@mrbrklyn.com: Your Mail is being returned] In-Reply-To: <20020301170306.GD29954@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 09:03:06AM -0800 References: <20020301170306.GD29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301093030.B29325@zgp.org> begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 09:03:06AM -0800: > You do realize, also, that REPLYING to spam messages only INVITES MORE > SPAM, don't you? You should reply to _all_ your spam -- but from a spamtrap address. (Or from an address answered by a bot.) Tricky, tricky, tricky... -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From ivo at o2w.nl Fri Mar 1 09:34:02 2002 From: ivo at o2w.nl (Ivo Timmermans) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020301175413.M7662@suse.de> References: <20020301164428.GY29954@zork.net> <20020301175413.M7662@suse.de> Message-ID: <20020301173402.GA30633@zebra.icicle.dhs.org> Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 08:44:28AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Gaaah! The DUTCH! > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > ivo@o2w.nl has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. > > I was disappointed to find no-one wearing clogs when I visited .nl > It's all a lie. I bet those windmills don't really do anything either. They've all been replaced with shoe factories. Ivo -- Als auch die vierten Kinder einfach vorbeilaufen, beschlusst die Hexe, das Haus aus Schafsk?se aufzugeben und nach einer Immobilie aus Lebkuchen ausschau zu halten. - Nichtlustig From katyc at ilm.com Fri Mar 1 09:33:28 2002 From: katyc at ilm.com (Katy Calbreath) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Shadow Government activated References: <20020301172155.GF29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <3C7FBB68.ABB8007B@ilm.com> That is SO wrong. I wondered why the airstrip by my apartment had gotten busier lately. Hmm.. Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Bush_Administration/ > > The Bush administration has activated Cold War-era plans for a > > "shadow government" consisting of 75 or more senior officials who > > live and work secretly outside Washington in case the nation's > > capital is crippled by terrorist attack, a senior government > > official said Thursday night. > > -- > INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION > end > 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! > ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey From mdillon at standmed.com Fri Mar 1 09:54:28 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Shadow Government activated In-Reply-To: <3C7FBB68.ABB8007B@ilm.com> References: <20020301172155.GF29954@zork.net> <3C7FBB68.ABB8007B@ilm.com> Message-ID: <20020301175428.GB25131@eber.embody.org> begin Katy Calbreath quotation: > That is SO wrong. > > I wondered why the airstrip by my apartment had gotten busier lately. > Hmm.. Do you live near Waynesboro, PA, or something? -md From opus at penguins.ca Fri Mar 1 10:36:10 2002 From: opus at penguins.ca (Chuck Daminato) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Must've been bored Message-ID: <20020301133555.T42688-100000@home.samurai.com> http://man.aaronclinger.com/ -- Chuck D From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 10:43:51 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Must've been bored In-Reply-To: <20020301133555.T42688-100000@home.samurai.com> References: <20020301133555.T42688-100000@home.samurai.com> Message-ID: <20020301184351.GH29954@zork.net> begin Chuck Daminato quotation: > http://man.aaronclinger.com/ I don't see why everyone loves these stupid puzzle-piece sites. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From katyc at ilm.com Fri Mar 1 10:41:17 2002 From: katyc at ilm.com (Katy Calbreath) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Prince Andrew Message-ID: <3C7FCB4D.407972BF@ilm.com> Prince Andrew is here at ILM! He's currently down the hallway, taking pictures with the other Episode II people. God Save The Queen! From pedro at tastytronic.net Fri Mar 1 10:48:58 2002 From: pedro at tastytronic.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Must've been bored In-Reply-To: <20020301184351.GH29954@zork.net> References: <20020301133555.T42688-100000@home.samurai.com> <20020301184351.GH29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301124858.H29998@tastytronic.net> Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco: > I don't see why everyone loves these stupid puzzle-piece sites. I think it's like that Andre the GIant thing. "Cyan Puzzle Pieces have a Posse!" Woo. pedro From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 11:00:01 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] High School Computing In-Reply-To: <20020228150009.GM29954@zork.net> References: <20020228150009.GM29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301190001.GK29954@zork.net> Speaking of scheme: http://library.readscheme.org/page1.html Wow! Old 1975 papers about scheme! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sam at dasbistro.com Fri Mar 1 11:05:40 2002 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Baron of Washoe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Scientology + Googlejuice Message-ID: <20020301190540.GF11350@dasbistro.com> http://www.operatingthetan.com/google/ -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From sam at dasbistro.com Fri Mar 1 11:28:56 2002 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Baron of Washoe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] High School Computing In-Reply-To: <20020301190001.GK29954@zork.net> References: <20020228150009.GM29954@zork.net> <20020301190001.GK29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301192855.GG11350@dasbistro.com> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 11:00:01AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Speaking of scheme: > > http://library.readscheme.org/page1.html > > Wow! Old 1975 papers about scheme! > Man, so much to read. Scheme is definately a language for Bad People of the Future. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From blahblah at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 12:20:52 2002 From: blahblah at crackmonkey.org (Crack Monkey) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> Message-ID: begin Sean Neakums quotation: > commence Crack Monkey quotation: > > So, who here wants to peer with my leafnode instance? > > If you could make it sound less like an illegal act, you might get > some responses. Damn troll. Anyway, yeah, so anyone who wants to use zork's usenet server to handle crackmonkey is welcome to. I'm thinking of setting up a guerilla netnews network anyway. If IRC could learn from EFNet, then surely netnews can learn from UseNet. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Fri Mar 1 12:39:43 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: Johnny Appleseed] In-Reply-To: <15485.25378.836871.413918@zaphod.musenki.com> References: <20020227201251.GB9412@zork.net> <20020227213626.GA28286@zork.net> <20020227222651.GB21621@zork.net> <20020227224218.GK19905@8ball.wox.org> <15485.25378.836871.413918@zaphod.musenki.com> Message-ID: <20020301203943.GO19905@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Jim Thompson quotation: > Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas writes: > > Emad, you don't have to make excuses anymore, not since the US got a > > president who smokes crack. Marijuanna's small time now. > > I doubt he smokes it. He has the Surgeon General mix up some really > tasty crack-ladden suppositories. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Do I LOOK like I want copies of your list replies spewing into my regular inbox? It's hard enough to clean the gunk your e-mails leave behind from my crackmonkey box! Now I'll never get this thing clean. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8f+cLjLHcIq3dHxYRAl5yAJ4g+Eogvp+JHwBJoJnOxEKUdn6VIQCgpUGu 1+u7rDmsrJH9YsY34sBrxVU= =gO9+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 12:43:46 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] ric-o-chet, time-to-play Message-ID: <20020301204346.GB6775@zork.net> http://www.salon.com/tech/wire/2002/02/25/ricochet/print.html -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 12:44:27 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn Message-ID: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> Ruben, if you don't fix your spam reply system, I'm going to remove you from this list. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From spork at zork.net Fri Mar 1 12:44:32 2002 From: spork at zork.net (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Arrows Message-ID: <20020301204432.GB25739@zork.net> ---> ---> ---> <--- an arrow point right pointing at an arrow pointing right pointing at an arrow pointing right pointing at an arrow pointing left with this text next to it what a wonderful world! -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Mar 1 12:46:33 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301204633.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Crack Monkey (blahblah@crackmonkey.org): Quoting Crack Monkey (blahblah@crackmonkey.org): > Anyway, yeah, so anyone who wants to use zork's usenet server > to handle crackmonkey is welcome to. [rick@uncle-enzo] ~ $ tin -g zork.net tin 1.5.8 release 20010221 ("Blue Water") [UNIX] (c) Copyright 1991-2001 Iain Lea. Connection to news server has timed out. Reconnect? (Y/n)n [rick@uncle-enzo] ~ $ Well, so much for remote access to your news spool. Let's try local access: [rick@uncle-enzo] ~ $ ssh -v -1 zork.net [I get in, fire up tin, and see the following groups display: u 1 control u 2 junk u 3 news.announce.newusers Score! Now, I can get my control fix! From bryanf at samurai.com Fri Mar 1 13:04:35 2002 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301210435.GW265@samurai.com> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:20:52PM -0800, Crack Monkey wrote: > I'm thinking of setting up a guerilla netnews network anyway. > If IRC could learn from EFNet, then surely netnews can learn from > UseNet. http://www.usenet2.org/ Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence uunet.ca!gts!cspace!bryanf Samurai Consulting Powered by Boredom From tyrak at borgship.net Fri Mar 1 13:07:42 2002 From: tyrak at borgship.net (Joakim Andersson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Arrows In-Reply-To: <20020301204432.GB25739@zork.net> References: <20020301204432.GB25739@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301210742.GC10638@borgship.net> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:44:32PM -0800, Emad El-Haraty wrote: > ---> ---> ---> <--- an arrow point right pointing at an arrow > pointing right pointing at an arrow pointing > right pointing at an arrow pointing left with this > text next to it > > what a wonderful world! Arrow points are like legos (lego bricks for the ones who prefer that) you can do almost anything with them.. -- Joakim Andersson ; tyrak@borgship.net ; http://borgship.net/~tyrak/ From jays at panix.com Fri Mar 1 13:32:08 2002 From: jays at panix.com (jays@panix.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] http://www.operatingthetan.com/google Message-ID: <200203012132.g21LW8c14031@panix2.panix.com> http://www.operatingthetan.com/google/ oo--JS. From mdillon at standmed.com Fri Mar 1 13:46:15 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! Message-ID: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> Scientology Anti-Juice Scientology Facts Lisa McPherson Trust From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 1 13:54:04 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:44:27PM -0800 References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:44:27PM -0800: > Ruben, if you don't fix your spam reply system, I'm going to remove > you from this list. > > -- > INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION LINE_OF_YELLING, dude. Keep it up and you're off the whitelist. Slashdot goes apeshit! http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/01/1352200.shtml?tid=124 Over banner ads! How _fucking lame_ are these people? If we block web ads Zinc. The other white metal. Haiku ads come next. Without haiku ads Haiku as we know it, gone. Zinc. The one you love. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From sam at dasbistro.com Fri Mar 1 14:13:28 2002 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Baron of Washoe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! In-Reply-To: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> References: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020301221328.GH11350@dasbistro.com> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 01:46:15PM -0800, mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley wrote: > Scientology Anti-Juice > Scientology Facts > Lisa McPherson Trust > Dude that's so 3 hours ago. -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From mdillon at standmed.com Fri Mar 1 14:22:41 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! In-Reply-To: <20020301221328.GH11350@dasbistro.com> References: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301221328.GH11350@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20020301222241.GA21892@lxbox3.embody.org> begin Baron of Washoe quotation: > Dude that's so 3 hours ago. Sorry about that. I get the list in digest mode, and I read them in reverse order by date (in my underwear). I guess I just didn't happen to see the two previous times it was posted today. -md From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 1 14:25:04 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! In-Reply-To: <20020301222241.GA21892@lxbox3.embody.org>; from mdillon@standmed.com on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:22:41PM -0800 References: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301221328.GH11350@dasbistro.com> <20020301222241.GA21892@lxbox3.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020301142504.A3613@zgp.org> begin mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:22:41PM -0800: > Sorry about that. I get the list in digest mode, "I have taken your suggestion and mentioned Unisys in links to burnallgifs.org, although I'm wary of the trend toward things which can undermine the reliability and accuracy of Google." -- Seth David Schoen (burnallgifs.org has moved up from 36 to 11 in Google searches for Unisys since the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment began.) -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From elharaty at zork.net Fri Mar 1 14:35:21 2002 From: elharaty at zork.net (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! In-Reply-To: <20020301142504.A3613@zgp.org> References: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301221328.GH11350@dasbistro.com> <20020301222241.GA21892@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301142504.A3613@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020301223520.GC25739@zork.net> begin Don Marti quotation: > (burnallgifs.org has moved up from 36 to 11 in Google searches for > Unisys since the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment began.) > #10 -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Fri Mar 1 14:40:04 2002 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 16:54:04 -0500 References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020301174004.A6127@www2.mrbrklyn.com> I need it to work as it is for my Kids in Wisconcin... On 2002.03.01 16:54 Don Marti wrote: > begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:44:27PM -0800: > > > Ruben, if you don't fix your spam reply system, I'm going to remove > > you from this list. > > > > -- > > INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION > > LINE_OF_YELLING, dude. Keep it up and you're off the whitelist. > > Slashdot goes apeshit! > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/01/1352200.shtml?tid=124 > > Over banner ads! How _fucking lame_ are these people? > > If we block web ads > Zinc. The other white metal. > Haiku ads come next. > > Without haiku ads > Haiku as we know it, gone. > Zinc. The one you love. > > -- > Don Marti > http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. > dmarti@zgp.org Unisys > KG6INA everywhere. > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/sins.mp3 - C'est La Vie and a boy named Joe http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-5752 From ruben at mrbrklyn.com Fri Mar 1 14:41:45 2002 From: ruben at mrbrklyn.com (CEO of Brooklyn) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org>; from dmarti@zgp.org on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 16:54:04 -0500 References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020301174145.A10683@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Being expelled from Crackmonkey would further spread my legend! On 2002.03.01 16:54 Don Marti wrote: > begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:44:27PM -0800: > > > Ruben, if you don't fix your spam reply system, I'm going to remove > > you from this list. > > > > -- > > INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION > > LINE_OF_YELLING, dude. Keep it up and you're off the whitelist. > > Slashdot goes apeshit! > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/01/1352200.shtml?tid=124 > > Over banner ads! How _fucking lame_ are these people? > > If we block web ads > Zinc. The other white metal. > Haiku ads come next. > > Without haiku ads > Haiku as we know it, gone. > Zinc. The one you love. > > -- > Don Marti > http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. > dmarti@zgp.org Unisys > KG6INA everywhere. > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/sins.mp3 - C'est La Vie and a boy named Joe http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-5752 From zen at zork.net Fri Mar 1 14:42:29 2002 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] (HTML stripped out) In-Reply-To: <20020301164007.GX29954@zork.net> References: <20020301164007.GX29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301224229.GA19573@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt uuencoded stream: > unsubscribe Happy mailman day, everybody! -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From justin-cm at soze.net Fri Mar 1 14:42:48 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! In-Reply-To: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> References: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020301224248.GH4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-01 21:46 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley > Scientology Anti-Juice > Scientology Facts > Lisa McPherson Trust What is up with all these jerks who think isolated chunks of HTML is perfectly acceptable? If I wanted links I could select or click on, I'd add html tags with procmail. How much harder is it to simply make sure you don't concatenate a url with a "." at the end of a sentence than to type on average about twice as much just because some idiot on the other end of the digital divide might be a complete moron and not use some mail preprocessor? How the hell do you expect raw html tags in email messages to be valid when the standard EMAIL QUOTING MECHANISM uses RESERVED CHARACTERS FROM HTML? - From _HOW TO WRITE EMAIL_ (MICROSOFT PRESS, 2003) ... >
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  • Don't use "begin  " at the beginning of > a line.

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  • Please use a single quotation (") mark at the beginning > of a line to signify that you are quoting a previous message. > Using ">" is deprecated (see the as yet unreleased > _Writings of a Madman: The Personal Diary of Bill Gates_ by > Gates (Microsoft Press, 2004) and use of that invalid construct > may confuse modern innovative digital messaging solutions like MS > Outlook 2004.

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Please remember to buy _HOW TO WRITE EMAIL, 2nd Edition_ > (Microsoft Press, 2005), which will explain how to write your > email in MSGEC (Microsoft Graphical Email Client) and have it > automatically converted to MSEXML (Microsoft Enhanced XML) for > transmission to your friends. This could have unexpected > consequences for recipients not using MSGEC to read email.

... - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8gAPonH0ZJUVoUkMRAkQdAKDEvqBh/iHPtdNwvp+r/355jBzaPACgjcAR aYqDFrIpi1VJEkX2QZKHLWU= =nKBA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Fri Mar 1 14:46:06 2002 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301174004.A6127@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301174004.A6127@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20020301224606.GM15497@ummagumma> * Ruben I Safir (ruben@mrbrklyn.com) wrote: > I need it to work as it is for my Kids in Wisconcin... [ snip gazillion lines of useless quoted shiat and overly long .sig ] Trim your reply. Or die. Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source/UNIX consultant | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ `-------------------------------------------------------' From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 14:48:41 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: <20020301204633.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> <20020301204633.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20020301224841.GE6775@zork.net> begin Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > Quoting Crack Monkey (blahblah@crackmonkey.org): > > Anyway, yeah, so anyone who wants to use zork's usenet server > > to handle crackmonkey is welcome to. > > [rick@uncle-enzo] > ~ $ tin -g zork.net > tin 1.5.8 release 20010221 ("Blue Water") [UNIX] (c) Copyright 1991-2001 > Iain Lea. > Connection to news server has timed out. Reconnect? (Y/n)n Uh, yeah. I don't let just *anyone* connect via TCP. As I mentioned many times on motd, you need to use an ssh tunnel to get in remotely. > [I get in, fire up tin, and see the following groups display: > > u 1 control > u 2 junk > u 3 news.announce.newusers > > Score! Now, I can get my control fix! zork.crackmonkey and zork.motd are relays of the crackmonkey and motd lists, respectively. The above is a side-effect of your default tin config on zork, and not a representation of the groups on zork. Poke around in /var/spool/news for more info. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Mar 1 14:53:21 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301174145.A10683@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301174145.A10683@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20020301225321.GG10153@linuxmafia.com> Quoting CEO of Brooklyn (ruben@mrbrklyn.com): > Being expelled from Crackmonkey would further spread my legend! "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!" From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Fri Mar 1 14:58:13 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301174145.A10683@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301174145.A10683@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <20020301225813.GP19905@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence CEO of Brooklyn quotation: > Being expelled from Crackmonkey would further spread my legend! You cannot comprehend the forces which are being readied against you. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8gAeEjLHcIq3dHxYRAn7OAKDszfbbmfmBkO7qS61YpityLR1zBwCg+s2+ 3xNQBM7ansrnjmRw8Iy/To0= =xq+B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 1 15:04:23 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: $$$ABSOLUTELY NOT SPAM$$$ (was Re: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn) !!!!! In-Reply-To: <20020301224606.GM15497@ummagumma>; from gilbertt@linuxbrit.co.uk on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 10:46:06PM +0000 References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301174004.A6127@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20020301224606.GM15497@ummagumma> Message-ID: <20020301150423.A4304@zgp.org> begin Tom Gilbert quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 10:46:06PM +0000: > Trim your reply. Or die. Don't forget to put a ! in the subject line. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From mdillon at standmed.com Fri Mar 1 15:05:00 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! In-Reply-To: <20020301224248.GH4166@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301224248.GH4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020301230500.GA22342@lxbox3.embody.org> begin Justin quotation: > What is up with all these jerks who think isolated chunks of HTML is > perfectly acceptable? If I wanted links I could select or click on, > I'd add html tags with procmail. Yeah, man. Those fucking jerks have got a real problem. -md From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 15:01:28 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Arrows In-Reply-To: <20020301204432.GB25739@zork.net> References: <20020301204432.GB25739@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301230128.GI6775@zork.net> begin Emad El-Haraty quotation: > ---> ---> ---> <--- an arrow point right pointing at an arrow > pointing right pointing at an arrow pointing > right pointing at an arrow pointing left with this > text next to it Are you sure it isn't http://www.thetoque.net/020226/pics/trs80mag.jpg ? -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Fri Mar 1 15:03:00 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-01 21:54 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Don Marti > begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:44:27PM -0800: > > > -- > > INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION > > LINE_OF_YELLING, dude. Keep it up and you're off the whitelist. You must have missed the email etiquette RFC, which clearly stated signatures are not part of the "message body" when determining "violations." > Slashdot goes apeshit! > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/01/1352200.shtml?tid=124 > > Over banner ads! How _fucking lame_ are these people? Slashdot - The Other Banner Ad Site For Illiterates "Advertising is the hemoragging wound of capitalism: the only way to compete with advertising is to advertise in response. The net result is higher prices without value, a completely useless sector of the economy, and a lot of cultural pollution." (sic) - Lemmy Caution (8378), 3092501 - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8gAiknH0ZJUVoUkMRAoAlAJ9c7Y62em1d0IdXjml+nR6cxlifwgCgxPSs jWcggAgEDjEqUjkvcY+HKB4= =Xlvj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From elharaty at zork.net Fri Mar 1 15:13:34 2002 From: elharaty at zork.net (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Subjects ending in! Message-ID: <20020301231334.GD25739@zork.net> Although I dont post here often, I'll be ending all my posts with exclamation marks for the near future. If you too would like to have a CEO of Brooklyn cloaking message, feel free to do likewise. -- Emad El-Haraty If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 15:18:21 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Canucks damned with faint praise Message-ID: <20020301231821.GJ6775@zork.net> http://pigdog.org/auto/canadia_sucks/shortfeature/2470.html > For example, a reader calling himself Every Loyal Canadian wrote in > to say "Canada is the best fucking nation you fucking asshole. You > dont know shit. Your just an American who thinks they know stuff but > they dont." See? Despite what you may read in the media, the average > Canadian is clearly no better educated than the average Californian > or Arkansan. It just goes to show you that we're all in this > together. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Fri Mar 1 15:26:28 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] $$$ABSOLUTELY NOT SPAM$$$!!!! Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <20020301150423.A4304@zgp.org> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301174004.A6127@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20020301224606.GM15497@ummagumma> <20020301150423.A4304@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020301232628.GJ4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-01 23:04 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Don Marti > begin Tom Gilbert quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 10:46:06PM +0000: > > > Trim your reply. Or die. > > Don't forget to put a ! in the subject line. Why not put everything in the subject line. - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8gA4knH0ZJUVoUkMRAqIrAKC1TowgRRzoL/ATz6nsTQbpR7pgBACdEYud GnSSsbLw5ubgnNnFRZ14lCI= =PLoA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 15:26:56 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:34 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020301232656.GL6775@zork.net> begin Justin quotation: > > LINE_OF_YELLING, dude. Keep it up and you're off the whitelist. > > You must have missed the email etiquette RFC, which clearly stated > signatures are not part of the "message body" when determining > "violations." Tell it to spamassassin. It flags most of my messages with a point or so of potential spaminess. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 15:27:27 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Subjects ending in! In-Reply-To: <20020301231334.GD25739@zork.net> References: <20020301231334.GD25739@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301232727.GM6775@zork.net> begin Emad El-Haraty quotation: > Although I dont post here often, I'll be ending all my posts with > exclamation marks for the near future. If you too would like to have a > CEO of Brooklyn cloaking message, feel free to do likewise. Actually, I could change the default crackmonkey subject line to be: [CrackMonkey!] That would solve the problem neatly. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From dep at drippingwithirony.com Fri Mar 1 15:42:20 2002 From: dep at drippingwithirony.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] begin ! In-Reply-To: <20020301231334.GD25739@zork.net> References: <20020301231334.GD25739@zork.net> Message-ID: <200203011842.20492.dep@drippingwithirony.com> begin Emad El-Haraty's quote: | Although I dont post here often, I'll be ending all my posts with | exclamation marks for the near future. If you too would like to | have a CEO of Brooklyn cloaking message, feel free to do likewise. whereupon we arrive at the universal secret subject line. -- dep Rondo Hatton died and it was all downhill from there. From justin-cm at soze.net Fri Mar 1 15:49:19 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301232656.GL6775@zork.net> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020301232656.GL6775@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301234919.GK4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-01 23:26 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco > begin Justin quotation: > > > LINE_OF_YELLING, dude. Keep it up and you're off the whitelist. > > > > You must have missed the email etiquette RFC, which clearly stated > > signatures are not part of the "message body" when determining > > "violations." > > Tell it to spamassassin. It flags most of my messages with a > point or so of potential spaminess. Surely you can tell sa to ignore sigs. - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8gBN/nH0ZJUVoUkMRAiHIAKDHbK2FBBTFT1jb1KFBnxSVt0lnigCaAl0J dTA3kg6C8LpdipaHIWAaHhQ= =PkAS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 1 15:49:54 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [CrackMonkey] Free as in Stallman! (almost forgot the '!'!) Message-ID: <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> ----- Forwarded message from Jay Sulzberger ----- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:38:16 -0500 (EST) From: Jay Sulzberger Subject: [nylug-talk] Stallman poster (fwd) To: nylug-talk@nylug.org Cc: Jay Sulzberger Sender: nylug-talk-admin@nylug.org Reply-To: nylug-talk@nylug.org X-Original-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:38:16 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=7.0 tests= version=2.01 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:45:01 -0500 (EST) To: jays@panix.com Subject: Stallman poster Richard Stallman is now literally the "poster boy for free software." The Borders bookstore chain's Spring 2002 computer book catalogue advertises "FREE Richard Stallman Poster" on the cover. _______________________________________________ nylug-talk mailing list nylug-talk@nylug.org http://herzl.nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/nylug-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From dep at drippingwithirony.com Fri Mar 1 15:54:19 2002 From: dep at drippingwithirony.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: Your Mail is being returned Message-ID: <200203011854.19386.dep@drippingwithirony.com> in addition to the annoyance, there is the dishonesty -- my mail was not returned. all i got was the message below. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Your Mail is being returned Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:45:05 -0500 From: Ruben I Safir To: dep@drippingwithirony.com Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control messages with ! in the subject, and other common spam like stuff, is rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend without ! in the subject. Thanks Ruben ------------------------------------------------------- -- dep The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good, in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. -- John Stuart Mill From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 15:57:32 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] New default subject marker In-Reply-To: <20020301232727.GM6775@zork.net> References: <20020301231334.GD25739@zork.net> <20020301232727.GM6775@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020301235732.GN6775@zork.net> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > [CrackMonkey!] > > That would solve the problem neatly. And let's see how well it works. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mikael at pawlo.com Fri Mar 1 16:01:48 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Ruling on MySQL ./. NuSphere Message-ID: Judge Saris has ruled on the preliminary injunction motion in MySQL AB ./. Progress Software (NuSphere) that Progress Software is enjoined from marketing products under the MySQL trademarks until trial. On the matter of Progress' distribution rights under GNU GPL, she has not granted an injunction. While Progress Software appears to be presently in compliance with the GNU GPL, there is probably no irreparable harm being caused to MySQL AB, thus no room for an injunction. Free Software Foundation has issued a press release: http://www.gnu.org/press/2002-03-01-pi-MySQL.html Regards Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 16:05:21 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] radio dramur! Message-ID: <20020302000521.GO6775@zork.net> Hooray! http://www.compound-eye.org/rex/ -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 16:09:49 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Donny and Marie do the star track Message-ID: <20020302000949.GP6775@zork.net> http://www.timewarptv.com/site/programs/The_Donny_and_Marie_Show/index.htm Be sure not to miss the transcript: http://www.timewarptv.com/site/programs/The_Donny_and_Marie_Show/transcript.htm > Standing to the far right of the stage is a man who attempts to bear > some resemblance to Han Solo, however, he is standing in the doorway > of a cardboard rocket ship, complete with fins, a ramp, a helmet > that looks like something the original Mercury astronauts wore, and > cheap sunglasses. Unless you're the CEO of brooklyn, in which case you probably can't read this message. HA HA! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mikael at pawlo.com Fri Mar 1 16:24:00 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust Message-ID: Hey, I just finished watching Antitrust. I actually thought it was far better than its reputation. Sure it's a teen flick and all that, but hey - you have got to love a movie that uses HTML to pose as some sort of very hard to decrypt Unix stuff. Sure - Tim Robbins may not be the perfect Bill but his sidekick is a great Ballmer .-) I guess I have to get the f off this list now, but I should have a long time a go anyway .-) Friday night and I am sending things like this to Crackmonkey. I guess I fit after all. Too damn sad! Mikael P.S. Were they using a GNU GPL license or something else in the movie? Stallman should be upset about the open source references! D.S. _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 1 16:23:48 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] oh yeah Message-ID: <20020302002348.GQ6775@zork.net> http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER43 And for your .procmailrc: # Goddamn but Ruben Safir is a twit. :0: * ^From:.*ruben@mrbrklyn.com * ^Subject: Your Mail is being returned inboxes/rubenisawanker (you can use /dev/null if you feel confident about this one) -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 16:26:30 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020302002630.GR6775@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > I just finished watching Antitrust. I actually thought it was far > better than its reputation. Sure it's a teen flick and all that, but > hey - you have got to love a movie that uses HTML to pose as some > sort of very hard to decrypt Unix stuff. Sure - Tim Robbins may not > be the perfect Bill but his sidekick is a great Ballmer .-) They had a serious problem with that movie. Taking someone's proprietary code and broadcasting it to the world is *not* "Open Source". -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From inkblot at movealong.org Fri Mar 1 16:24:07 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301234919.GK4166@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020301232656.GL6775@zork.net> <20020301234919.GK4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020302002407.GA10741@movealong.org> Quoting Justin: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > begin quote 2002-03-01 23:26 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) > by Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco > > > begin Justin quotation: > > > > LINE_OF_YELLING, dude. Keep it up and you're off the whitelist. > > > > > > You must have missed the email etiquette RFC, which clearly stated > > > signatures are not part of the "message body" when determining > > > "violations." > > > > Tell it to spamassassin. It flags most of my messages with a > > point or so of potential spaminess. > > Surely you can tell sa to ignore sigs. -- BUT IF YOU DO THAT, IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE YOUR SPAM STARTS LOOKING LIKE THIS!!!!!!!! -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- "damn the world to hell." --xavii aka bob From mikael at pawlo.com Fri Mar 1 16:37:12 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: <20020302002630.GR6775@zork.net> References: Message-ID: At 16.26 -0800 02-03-01, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: >> I just finished watching Antitrust. I actually thought it was far >> better than its reputation. Sure it's a teen flick and all that, but >> hey - you have got to love a movie that uses HTML to pose as some >> sort of very hard to decrypt Unix stuff. Sure - Tim Robbins may not >> be the perfect Bill but his sidekick is a great Ballmer .-) > They had a serious problem with that movie. > Taking someone's proprietary code and broadcasting it to the >world is *not* "Open Source". Just for arguments sake - I can't sleep yet - say someone did just that with XP - would it make any difference? M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Fri Mar 1 16:40:40 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020302002407.GA10741@movealong.org> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020301232656.GL6775@zork.net> <20020301234919.GK4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020302002407.GA10741@movealong.org> Message-ID: <20020302004040.GA647@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > -- > BUT IF YOU DO THAT, IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE YOUR SPAM STARTS LOOKING > LIKE THIS!!!!!!!! ITYM "-- " HTH. HAND. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8gB9gjLHcIq3dHxYRAsFrAJsELZEvGtQsr5PgEop0IN7uvfwjtgCeNza5 4nTD0BLzA3hELjIj5kWZu5g= =TZbH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 16:55:10 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020302005510.GS6775@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > Just for arguments sake - I can't sleep yet - say someone did just > that with XP - would it make any difference? Absolutely. That would be one of the worst PR events in free software history. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From dep at drippingwithirony.com Fri Mar 1 17:07:57 2002 From: dep at drippingwithirony.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: <20020302005510.GS6775@zork.net> References: <20020302005510.GS6775@zork.net> Message-ID: <200203012007.57805.dep@drippingwithirony.com> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's quote: | That would be one of the worst PR events in free software | history. surpassing even mozilla? -- dep Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. -- Daniel Patrick Moynahan From pawal at blipp.com Fri Mar 1 17:18:11 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] HMD Message-ID: <20020302011811.GI24655@vic20.blipp.com> Has HMD become googlejuice-day? -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From sneakums at zork.net Fri Mar 1 17:18:41 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Steering. In-Reply-To: (Crack Monkey's message of "Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:20:52 -0800") References: <20020228031013.GA9018@symonds.net> <20020228154432.GP29954@zork.net> Message-ID: <6u664f937y.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Crack Monkey quotation: > begin Sean Neakums quotation: >> commence Crack Monkey quotation: >> > So, who here wants to peer with my leafnode instance? >> >> If you could make it sound less like an illegal act, you might get >> some responses. > > Damn troll. This news/mail gatewayness us still breaking threading. I am not best pleased. -- "Ron Sweeney is the one. Fear his noisy keyboard!" -- Eamon de Valera From sneakums at zork.net Fri Mar 1 17:19:30 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020301174004.A6127@www2.mrbrklyn.com> (Ruben I Safir's message of "Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:40:04 -0500") References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301174004.A6127@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <6u1yf3936l.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Ruben I Safir quotation: > I need it to work as it is for my Kids in Wisconcin... Guess what? Nobody gives a fuck. -- "What they should do is try to get a whole nest of artificially intelligent kernels like ants or bees: ``Stop the hacker! He's going for the queen!'' And like a bunch of them start shutting down various systems ... it'd be like Death Star except without the explosions." -- Emad El-Haraty, on OS design. From justin-cm at soze.net Fri Mar 1 17:19:48 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020302011948.GL4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-02 00:24 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Mikael Pawlo > Hey, Isn't that a personal greeting? I hate to tell you this, but there's nobody on the other side of THIS curtain besides a room full of rabid ferrets. > I guess I have to get the f off this list now, but I should have a long > time a go anyway .-) What a relief, I was just starting to worry that my SPAM folder would fill up with your continued ravings over inane movies from over a year ago. > Friday night and I am sending things like this to Crackmonkey. I guess I > fit after all. Too damn sad! Stop it, I'm getting teary-eyed. - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8gCi0nH0ZJUVoUkMRAtsEAKCNwE3QTbYkjl9Cj0qq8IROq/MvowCfQqUS L7mszOluhMlhHk+fq6108yA= =pLd7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pawal at blipp.com Fri Mar 1 17:21:25 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! In-Reply-To: <20020301223520.GC25739@zork.net> References: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301221328.GH11350@dasbistro.com> <20020301222241.GA21892@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301142504.A3613@zgp.org> <20020301223520.GC25739@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020302012125.GJ24655@vic20.blipp.com> On Fri, 01 Mar 2002, Emad El-Haraty wrote: > > (burnallgifs.org has moved up from 36 to 11 in Google searches for > > Unisys since the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment began.) > > #10 I presume Google counts clicks on the search results as well. Search and click! I contributed somewhat to burnallgifs by infecting some unmaintained guestbooks. Easy. -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From sneakums at zork.net Fri Mar 1 17:21:27 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020302004040.GA647@8ball.wox.org> (Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas's message of "Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:40:40 -0600") References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020301232656.GL6775@zork.net> <20020301234919.GK4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020302002407.GA10741@movealong.org> <20020302004040.GA647@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <6uwuwv7oiw.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas quotation: > commence The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: >> -- >> BUT IF YOU DO THAT, IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE YOUR SPAM STARTS LOOKING >> LIKE THIS!!!!!!!! > > ITYM "-- " HTH. HAND. I am so glad I fixed Gnus not to sigify such bogusly-delimited sigs. I knew it was bogus the moment I saw it! -- "Windows NT is 'case-preserving', but not 'case-distinguishing'. Translation: it's a lot like ass." -- Eamon de Valera From neale at woozle.org Fri Mar 1 17:21:29 2002 From: neale at woozle.org (the Troll under the Belltown Bridge) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Free as in Stallman! (almost forgot the '!'!) In-Reply-To: <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> References: <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> Message-ID: So then, Don Marti is all like: > Richard Stallman is now literally the "poster boy for free software." > The Borders bookstore chain's Spring 2002 computer book catalogue > advertises "FREE Richard Stallman Poster" on the cover. I want a "Free Richard Stallman" poster. From mikael at pawlo.com Fri Mar 1 17:28:21 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: <20020302005510.GS6775@zork.net> References: Message-ID: At 16.55 -0800 02-03-01, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: >> Just for arguments sake - I can't sleep yet - say someone did just >> that with XP - would it make any difference? > Absolutely. > That would be one of the worst PR events in free software >history. Even if it was done by Microsoft? Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From justin-cm at soze.net Fri Mar 1 17:21:29 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <20020302004040.GA647@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020301232656.GL6775@zork.net> <20020301234919.GK4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020302002407.GA10741@movealong.org> <20020302004040.GA647@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020302012129.GM4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-02 00:40 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas > commence The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > > -- > > BUT IF YOU DO THAT, IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE YOUR SPAM STARTS LOOKING > > LIKE THIS!!!!!!!! > > ITYM "-- " HTH. HAND. Uhh, don't tell spammers how to get past the filter! Isn't that a violation of 1201(a)(3)? - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8gCkZnH0ZJUVoUkMRAvVlAKCIMAnwDl7X9hxmMgwjR2padIarKgCeK92V t+lO94GXaJVgtw/C1ChrQ58= =yaJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikael at pawlo.com Fri Mar 1 17:48:47 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Free as in Stallman! (almost forgot the '!'!) In-Reply-To: References: <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> Message-ID: At 17.21 -0800 02-03-01, the Troll under the Belltown Bridge wrote: >> Richard Stallman is now literally the "poster boy for free software." >> The Borders bookstore chain's Spring 2002 computer book catalogue >> advertises "FREE Richard Stallman Poster" on the cover. >I want a "Free Richard Stallman" poster. Did anyone read the book? I got a little scared by the 'quotes from Richard's mother'-part in the marketing. M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Fri Mar 1 17:53:05 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Free as a troll Message-ID: Interview with Sam Williams, author of Free as in Freedom: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2002/02/28/williams.html M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 1 17:49:43 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] You'll never guess!!! In-Reply-To: <20020302012125.GJ24655@vic20.blipp.com>; from pawal@blipp.com on Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 02:21:25AM +0100 References: <20020301214614.GA21384@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301221328.GH11350@dasbistro.com> <20020301222241.GA21892@lxbox3.embody.org> <20020301142504.A3613@zgp.org> <20020301223520.GC25739@zork.net> <20020302012125.GJ24655@vic20.blipp.com> Message-ID: <20020301174943.A7133@zgp.org> begin Patrik Wallstrom quotation of Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 02:21:25AM +0100: > I presume Google counts clicks on the search results as well. Search > and click! View source, dude. They don't. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 1 17:50:20 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Free as in Stallman! (almost forgot the '!'!) In-Reply-To: ; from neale@woozle.org on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 05:21:29PM -0800 References: <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020301175020.B7133@zgp.org> begin the Troll under the Belltown Bridge quotation of Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 05:21:29PM -0800: > I want a "Free Richard Stallman" poster. I want a free, Free "Free Richard Stallman" poster. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 17:50:42 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020302015042.GT6775@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > > That would be one of the worst PR events in free software > >history. > > Even if it was done by Microsoft? But that's not the point of the movie. The point was that it was a rogue employee publishing the code against the authors' wishes. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From carlos at laviola.org Fri Mar 1 17:56:35 2002 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Your Mail is being returned Message-ID: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control messages with text in the subject, and other common spam like stuff, is rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend without text in the subject. Thanks -- _ _ _| _ _ | _ . _ | _ to hell with icq, use jabber! (_(_|| |(_)_) |(_|\/|(_)|(_| THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK? From mikael at pawlo.com Fri Mar 1 18:07:18 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: <20020302015042.GT6775@zork.net> References: Message-ID: At 17.50 -0800 02-03-01, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: >> > That would be one of the worst PR events in free software >> >history. >> Even if it was done by Microsoft? > But that's not the point of the movie. The point was that it >was a rogue employee publishing the code against the authors' wishes. I guess you don't like thinking out of the box. Where is the wireless Rick Moen these days? Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Fri Mar 1 18:12:21 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Your Mail is being returned In-Reply-To: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> References: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <20020302021221.GE647@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Carlos Laviola quotation: > Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control > messages with text in the subject, and other common spam like > stuff, is rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend > without text in the subject. Thanks Oh won't someone please think of the children! - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8gDUDjLHcIq3dHxYRAlg8AJ9FtHSSnNmasPAe6zcLCwovKCW4xwCePCEP UYGhlneSCYofC5UMKqIPBZc= =VMhK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jays at panix.com Fri Mar 1 18:15:30 2002 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Antitrust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020302021530.GA2851@panix.com> On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 01:37:12AM +0100, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > At 16.26 -0800 02-03-01, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco > wrote: > >begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > >> I just finished watching Antitrust. I actually thought it was far > >> better than its reputation. Sure it's a teen flick and all that, but > >> hey - you have got to love a movie that uses HTML to pose as some > >> sort of very hard to decrypt Unix stuff. Sure - Tim Robbins may not > >> be the perfect Bill but his sidekick is a great Ballmer .-) > > They had a serious problem with that movie. > > Taking someone's proprietary code and broadcasting it to the > >world is *not* "Open Source". > > Just for arguments sake - I can't sleep yet - say someone did just that > with XP - would it make any difference? > > M It would further the mass delusion that there is something valuable in Microsoft's secret code. After a few weeks, perhaps Microsoft would notice that no harm came to Microsoft as a result of publication. Microsoft would announce that all its future code would be available, for study and repair, on Slashdot. Fixes would flow in, the code would improve, Microsoft would make more money. The Supreme Court of the United States would reverse all findings of fact in the two antitrust cases. If the Supreme Court were to fail to act, a direct intervention of the World Trade Organization would place improved versions of XP on all WalsquiggleMart naked peecees. http://www.panix.com/~jays/tunney.letter oo--JS. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Mar 1 18:33:05 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Your Mail is being returned In-Reply-To: <20020302021221.GE647@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> <20020302021221.GE647@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020302023305.GU6775@zork.net> begin Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas quotation: > Oh won't someone please think of the children! They're in "Wisconcin". -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jdub at perkypants.org Fri Mar 1 18:35:22 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Prince Andrew In-Reply-To: <3C7FCB4D.407972BF@ilm.com> References: <3C7FCB4D.407972BF@ilm.com> Message-ID: <20020302023522.GG15879@perkypants.org> > Prince Andrew is here at ILM! Well, I'll chime in and say that I know who he is, and why the ruckus. Silly uneducated, lower-class, neanderthal crackmonkies. - Jeff -- "Boys will be boys, hackers will be hackers, geeks will be geeks, and cyberpunks will always just be ravers with Macintoshes." - Monkey Master, Crackmonkey From jdub at perkypants.org Fri Mar 1 18:36:04 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] HMD In-Reply-To: <20020301171409.GB2449@alternex.com.br> References: <20020301171409.GB2449@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <20020302023604.GH15879@perkypants.org> > Happy Mailman Day! And what a glorious day it is! I thought I'd let someone else contribute to the Mailman Day love-sharing this month. Being From The Future is cheating a bit. - Jeff -- "Trying to get a PC to analyse one of the most abstract forms of language - the poem - is like trying to drill for oil with a banana." - The Register From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Fri Mar 1 19:15:41 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Your Mail is being returned In-Reply-To: <20020302023305.GU6775@zork.net> References: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> <20020302021221.GE647@8ball.wox.org> <20020302023305.GU6775@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020302031541.GA1276@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > begin Overlord of Minnesota and Protector of the Dakotas quotation: > > Oh won't someone please think of the children! > > They're in "Wisconcin". Of course, that's where all of my forced-labor camps are. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8gEOYjLHcIq3dHxYRAjxkAJ9V6xuYeJHGEDRtMxFf5cfcn8Lx5gCbBLX4 ukmQMPgZiFBug2049Ysxk6E= =R87g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ron at vnetworx.net Fri Mar 1 19:44:05 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Ron Guerin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] oh yeah In-Reply-To: <20020302002348.GQ6775@zork.net> References: <20020302002348.GQ6775@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015040646.2727.12363.camel@amory> On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 19:23, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER43 [!CrackMonkey!] The Subjugator of Port Jefferson and Intendant of Brookhaven bows before the Prince Regent of San Francisco. That script has been plaguing NYLUG and WWWAC on and off for a year now. -- "You are indeed the Master of Monkeys." From wilder at eskimo.com Fri Mar 1 22:08:37 2002 From: wilder at eskimo.com (Dan Wilder) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020301175413.M7662@suse.de>; from davej@suse.de on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 05:54:13PM +0100 References: <20020301164428.GY29954@zork.net> <20020301175413.M7662@suse.de> Message-ID: <20020301220837.B7472@eskimo.com> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 05:54:13PM +0100, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 08:44:28AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Gaaah! The DUTCH! > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > ivo@o2w.nl has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. > > I was disappointed to find no-one wearing clogs when I visited .nl > It's all a lie. I bet those windmills don't really do anything either. Attract tourists? -- Dan Wilder From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Mar 2 10:47:37 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] oh yeah In-Reply-To: <1015040646.2727.12363.camel@amory> References: <20020302002348.GQ6775@zork.net> <1015040646.2727.12363.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020302184737.GV6775@zork.net> begin Ron Guerin quotation: > The Subjugator of Port Jefferson and Intendant of Brookhaven bows > before the Prince Regent of San Francisco. FEALTY! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Mar 2 09:27:36 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Free as in Stallman! (almost forgot the '!'!) In-Reply-To: References: <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020302172735.GJ10153@linuxmafia.com> Quoting the Troll under the Belltown Bridge (neale@woozle.org): > I want a "Free Richard Stallman" poster. Posters want to be free, man. -- Cheers, Rick Moen "vi is my shepherd; I shall not font." rick@linuxmafia.com -- Psalm 0.1 beta From carton at Ivy.NET Fri Mar 1 23:16:08 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Message for the CEO of brooklyn In-Reply-To: <6uwuwv7oiw.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Sat, 02 Mar 2002 01:21:27 +0000") References: <20020301204427.GC6775@zork.net> <20020301135404.A2819@zgp.org> <20020301230300.GI4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020301232656.GL6775@zork.net> <20020301234919.GK4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020302002407.GA10741@movealong.org> <20020302004040.GA647@8ball.wox.org> <6uwuwv7oiw.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "sn" == Sean Neakums writes: sn> I am so glad I fixed Gnus not to sigify such bogusly-delimited sn> sigs. I knew it was bogus the moment I saw it! The signature is below the LAST '-- ', so even if he had used a valid delimiter, Gnus would be wrong to call that a signature. He had another automatic signature below it. -- ``[The capitalist] intends only his own gain, [but he is] led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention.'' -- Adam Smith From carton at Ivy.NET Fri Mar 1 23:08:25 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Shadow Government activated In-Reply-To: <20020301175428.GB25131@eber.embody.org> (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley's message of "Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:54:28 -0800") References: <20020301172155.GF29954@zork.net> <3C7FBB68.ABB8007B@ilm.com> <20020301175428.GB25131@eber.embody.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "mdceob" == mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley writes: mdceob> Do you live near Waynesboro, PA, or something? Yeah, that's my country club. From sneakums at zork.net Sat Mar 2 11:06:56 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Free as in Stallman! (almost forgot the '!'!) In-Reply-To: (Mikael Pawlo's message of "Sat, 2 Mar 2002 02:48:47 +0100") References: <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> Message-ID: <6u7koun60f.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Mikael Pawlo quotation: > At 17.21 -0800 02-03-01, the Troll under the Belltown Bridge wrote: >>> Richard Stallman is now literally the "poster boy for free software." >>> The Borders bookstore chain's Spring 2002 computer book catalogue >>> advertises "FREE Richard Stallman Poster" on the cover. >>I want a "Free Richard Stallman" poster. > > Did anyone read the book? I got a little scared by the 'quotes from > Richard's mother'-part in the marketing. Well, you're a twonk anyway. I read the sample chapter, and it was pretty good. -- "I don't care what you say. I'm right and you're wrong." -- Eamon de Valera From justin-cm at soze.net Sat Mar 2 11:07:54 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] without text!!!!!%%%%%*****$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ In-Reply-To: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> References: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <20020302190754.GO4166@kobayashi.soze.net> From nick at zork.net Sat Mar 2 11:15:06 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Quincy Punk Rock Episode Message-ID: <20020302191505.GA4819@zork.net> http://www.requestline.com/archive/sep97/episode/3index.html > Dancing to the sound of the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra, Quincy asks Dr. > Emily Hanover why anyone would "want to listen to music that makes > you hate, when you can listen to music that makes you love." -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Sat Mar 2 11:18:30 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Wolfman Jack mp3s! Message-ID: <20020302191830.GB4819@zork.net> http://www.wolfmanjack.org/audio/ Also, an article about his voice: http://www.wolfmanjack.org/marscorner.htm > This time around I am going to be professorial. Maybe because I > consider myself a professor in "Wolfmanology." Maybe because there > is something fun about debunking myths. Maybe because I got up on > the wrong side of the bed. Whatever the case, I now offer the most > in-depth, analytical and prosaic piece you will ever read about > Wolfman Jack, at least to date on this web site. I think it is time > to do this. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Mar 2 11:19:13 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] without text!!!!!%%%%%*****$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ In-Reply-To: <20020302190754.GO4166@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> <20020302190754.GO4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020302191913.GC4819@zork.net> You are an insane spaz! Let's get 'im! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Sat Mar 2 11:27:33 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Richard Simmons collection Message-ID: <20020302192732.GD4819@zork.net> http://www.collecterrific.com/simmons/ > Collection of the MastersTM . . by Richard Simmons -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mdillon at standmed.com Sat Mar 2 11:29:16 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Shadow Government activated In-Reply-To: References: <20020301172155.GF29954@zork.net> <3C7FBB68.ABB8007B@ilm.com> <20020301175428.GB25131@eber.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020302192916.GA3689@eber.embody.org> begin Soldier Troll of the North Lands quotation: > Yeah, that's my country club. Whatever: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/raven_rock.htm -md From dmarti at zgp.org Sat Mar 2 11:30:11 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] learn PERL!!! Message-ID: <20020302113011.A17543@zgp.org> "Matt Wright's PERL Script Forum contains hundreds of postings concerning Matt Wright's useful PERL scripts. This is the BEST way to learn the PERL programming language and CGI. Matt's Script Archive, created by Matt Wright, contains useful PERL scripts which he has written for the Internet community. Thousands of Web masters world wide use Matt's Scripts." http://www.lookwww.com/webmast/perl.htm -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From nick at zork.net Sat Mar 2 11:41:03 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] L. Ron Hubbard on the couch eating Funyuns and pizza Message-ID: <20020302194102.GE4819@zork.net> http://bbird.brainfodder.net/ron.html > This is a picture of L. Ron Hubbard on the couch eating Funyuns and > pizza. He's thinking, "Mmmm, that's a lot of pizza!" > > Before becoming the founder of The Church of Scientology and author > of such classics as Battlefield Earth, Ron was a championship race > car driver on the planet Marcab. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Sat Mar 2 12:06:45 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] without text!!!!!%%%%%*****$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ In-Reply-To: <20020302191913.GC4819@zork.net> References: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> <20020302190754.GO4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020302191913.GC4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020302200645.GP4166@kobayashi.soze.net> From mdillon at standmed.com Sat Mar 2 12:21:10 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] learn PERL!!! In-Reply-To: <20020302113011.A17543@zgp.org> References: <20020302113011.A17543@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020302202109.GA3791@eber.embody.org> begin Don Marti quotation: > "Matt Wright's PERL Script Forum contains hundreds of postings > concerning Matt Wright's useful PERL scripts. This is the BEST way to > learn the PERL programming language and CGI. Matt's Script Archive, > created by Matt Wright, contains useful PERL scripts which he has > written for the Internet community. Thousands of Web masters world > wide use Matt's Scripts." > [...snip URL of EVIL Matt Wrong's scriptorium...] http://search.cpan.org/doc/JMCNAMARA/Acme-Inline-PERL-0.01/README -md From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sat Mar 2 12:44:50 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] without text!!!!!%%%%%*****$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ In-Reply-To: <20020302190754.GO4166@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020302015635.GA4399@alternex.com.br> <20020302190754.GO4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020302204450.GB1496@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Nice try, but there's still the footer. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8gTnBjLHcIq3dHxYRAoypAJ4mM7A6pIb0/l7pyJvXkYTbx8AiVACdFcP/ NgsHEkTcSnjZtwdYNJ5wHaY= =J0pc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From carton at Ivy.NET Sat Mar 2 13:40:36 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Shadow Government activated In-Reply-To: <20020302192916.GA3689@eber.embody.org>; from mdillon@standmed.com on Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 11:29:16AM -0800 References: <20020301172155.GF29954@zork.net> <3C7FBB68.ABB8007B@ilm.com> <20020301175428.GB25131@eber.embody.org> <20020302192916.GA3689@eber.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020302144036.A31624@sakima.ivy.net> > Whatever: > http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/raven_rock.htm If you're trying to target Command and Control Bunkers, just look for golf courses. http://www.iwingolf.com/course_detail.asp?cid=16294 or, uh, maybe not. http://www.wayhoo.com/StuntMen/PSMHome.htm I live near _this_ Waynesboro right now, so never mind. http://www.iwingolf.com/course_detail.asp?cid=16298 From sween at modelm.org Sat Mar 2 07:59:33 2002 From: sween at modelm.org (Ron Sweeney) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Jar Jar Binks, security sucks Message-ID: <20020302105933.A13345@mpilots.dyndns.org> http://leech.dk/afrodot.jpg heh. From jmorris at intercode.com.au Sat Mar 2 16:05:28 2002 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Jar Jar Binks, security sucks In-Reply-To: <20020302105933.A13345@mpilots.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Ron Sweeney wrote: > > http://leech.dk/afrodot.jpg > I couldn't click on any of the links. - James -- James Morris From dep at drippingwithirony.com Sat Mar 2 16:47:03 2002 From: dep at drippingwithirony.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Jar Jar Binks, security sucks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200203021947.03422.dep@drippingwithirony.com> begin James Morris's quote: | On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Ron Sweeney wrote: | > http://leech.dk/afrodot.jpg | | I couldn't click on any of the links. sure you could. it would be entirely futile to do so, but hey, you're on crackmonkey, so futility can't be a total stranger to you . . . -- dep The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good, in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. -- John Stuart Mill From dmarti at zgp.org Sat Mar 2 17:18:27 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] vote Pat Wright Message-ID: <20020302171827.C20748@zgp.org> "I have also faced many criminal complaints over ferrets, and I have seen how justice system works (more accurately, doesnt work) in this country." http://ferretsanon.com/why_i_am_running.htm (now for the ferret version of "Smuggler's Blues") http://ferretsanon.com/avoid_checkpoints.htm -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From nick at zork.net Sat Mar 2 17:21:15 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020303012115.GF4819@zork.net> So how fast does it run on your c64? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- jeremym@loonix.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jdub at perkypants.org Sat Mar 2 17:28:14 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] Free as in Stallman! (almost forgot the '!'!) In-Reply-To: <6u7koun60f.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> <20020301154954.A5465@zgp.org> <6u7koun60f.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020303012814.GI1103@perkypants.org> > Well, you're a twonk anyway. *blink* Who taught him that? - Jeff -- If Perl is gaffer, and Python is Magic Tape, then Ruby is self-adhesive plate gold. From nick at zork.net Sat Mar 2 18:22:50 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mr.bad@pigdog.org: Re: [Pigdog] re: bears] Message-ID: <20020303022250.GH4819@zork.net> And, in closing, Mister Bad r0xx0rz. ----- Forwarded message from "Mr. Bad" ----- >>>>> "TS" == Thom Stark writes: TS> (Note that Morrison died more than a TS> decade before "Star Truck: The Next Degeneration" premiered, Oh, man. You fell for that silly publicity stunt? Bwahaha! Havent you ever seen the documentary film "Eddie and the Cruisers"? How anyone could believe Jim Morrison to be dead is beyond me. Even a cursory review of your favorite Web search engine will show that Jim Morrison is alive and well in Maryland, selling quality hand-crafted chairs at bargain prices: http://www.craftsonline.com/morchaincan.html Time has taken its toll on Jim, but he still has that smoldering sexual magnetism that made him an idol to teenyboppers and latent homosexuals worldwide in the 60s and 70s: http://www.craftsonline.com/abkatandjimm.html Sorry, though, ladies: the Lizard King has finally settled down with his one special lady, who shares his hopes and dreams. But you can still look, eh? Ha cha cha. In conclusion, Id like to point out that my favorite expisode of The Star Track is the one where Boss Hogg travels through time with Alexander the Great and Ben Franklin to kill Trotsky, but Spock kicks their ass with chop-socky judo moves. They are all so impressed, the join the Fellowship of the Ring and the Planet of the Daleks is saved. -Mr. Bad P.S. I believe the proper denigrating term is "FART TRASH: The Poop Suck-dog-ass-butt-eration." -- Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ "Goofus gets the chicks." -- lisapea ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jeremym at loonix.org Sat Mar 2 21:25:57 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020303012115.GF4819@zork.net> References: <20020303012115.GF4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020303052557.GA6839@pug.chroot.net> On Sat Mar 02, 2002 at 05:21:15PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: >So how fast does it run on your c64? If I ever felt the desire to play with a slow, unreliable piece of crap like the c64 again, it'd probably be the first thing I tried. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From ron at vnetworx.net Sat Mar 2 22:03:47 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (The Subjugator of Port Jefferson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020303052557.GA6839@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020303012115.GF4819@zork.net> <20020303052557.GA6839@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <1015135428.1028.15514.camel@amory> On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 00:25, Jeremy McLeod wrote: > If I ever felt the desire to play with a slow, unreliable piece of crap > like the c64 again, it'd probably be the first thing I tried. Before the VIC-20? -- "Ok, who used the POKE of death on my PET?" -- Ben Franklin From sween at modelm.org Sat Mar 2 22:10:01 2002 From: sween at modelm.org (Ron Sweeney) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] huevo Message-ID: <20020303011000.A43205@mpilots.dyndns.org> http://www.handyscripts.co.uk/trubador_egg.htm From nick at zork.net Sun Mar 3 00:23:52 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020303082352.GI4819@zork.net> goddamn rr weenies. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Sun Mar 3 00:45:08 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.com: D I T H E R A T I for 22 February 2002] Message-ID: <20020303084508.GJ4819@zork.net> So I'm behind in my ditherati, but the spamazon ad for this one said: > John Perry Barlow stars as John Crosse in "Conceiving Ada": That was the sort of movie where you look at the actors who were in it and say "They've come a long way since Conceiving Ada". When we left the theater, a pack of geeks behind us said "Wow, I never thought you could take a subject so interesting and make it so boring." ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily MALAISE OF FUTURE PAST "Being an Internet guru isn't what it used to be." John Perry Barlow, realizing for the first time that the future might very well be asking him to leave it alone, News.com, 22 February 2002 http://news.com.com/2008-1082-843349.html ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Sun Mar 3 00:53:44 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Senator brutalizes Intel rep for resisting CPRM Message-ID: <20020303085344.GK4819@zork.net> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/24262.html > "We do not need to neuter the personal computer to be nothing more > than a videocassette recorder," Vadasz said in testimony before the > Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation Thursday. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Mar 3 09:41:38 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Senator brutalizes Intel rep for resisting CPRM In-Reply-To: <20020303085344.GK4819@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 12:53:44AM -0800 References: <20020303085344.GK4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020303094138.A31145@zgp.org> begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 12:53:44AM -0800: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/24262.html > > "We do not need to neuter the personal computer to be nothing more > > than a videocassette recorder," Vadasz said in testimony before the > > Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation Thursday. At least Valenti says what he means. These Intel sons-of-bitches just want a better negotiating position in the DRM wars instead of the pressure of a government-imposed deadline. "Don't worry about passing a law to make us fuck over our customers; we're doing that already!" -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From jeremym at loonix.org Sun Mar 3 10:17:13 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <1015135428.1028.15514.camel@amory> References: <20020303012115.GF4819@zork.net> <20020303052557.GA6839@pug.chroot.net> <1015135428.1028.15514.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020303181713.GA3010@pug.chroot.net> On Sun Mar 03, 2002 at 01:03:47AM -0500, The Subjugator of Port Jefferson wrote: >On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 00:25, Jeremy McLeod wrote: >> If I ever felt the desire to play with a slow, unreliable piece of crap >> like the c64 again, it'd probably be the first thing I tried. > >Before the VIC-20? I was referring to LUnix. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From tyrak at borgship.net Sun Mar 3 13:12:26 2002 From: tyrak at borgship.net (Joakim Andersson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] It's not easy to be a Swede nowadays Message-ID: <20020303211226.GA17449@borgship.net> WHAT DOES YOUR DAD DO ? Recently it's the first day of school and the teacher thought she'd get to know the kids by asking them their name and what their father does for a living. The first little girl says: "My name is Mary and my daddy is a postman ." The next little boy says: "I'm Andy and my Dad is a mechanic." Then one little boy says: "My name is Jimmy and my father is a striptease dancer in a cabaret for gay men." The teacher gasps and quickly changes the subject. Later in the school yard the teacher approaches Jimmy privately and asks if it was really true that his Dad dances nude in a gay bar. He blushed and said, "I'm sorry but my dad plays hockey for Team Sweden, and I was just too embarrassed to say so." -- Joakim Andersson ; tyrak@borgship.net ; http://borgship.net/~tyrak/ From justin-cm at soze.net Sun Mar 3 14:44:30 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] It's not easy to be a Swede nowadays In-Reply-To: <20020303211226.GA17449@borgship.net> References: <20020303211226.GA17449@borgship.net> Message-ID: <20020303224430.GR4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-03 21:12 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Joakim Andersson > dances nude in a gay bar. He blushed and said, "I'm sorry but my dad > plays hockey for Team Sweden, and I was just too embarrassed to say so." Which of course would be funny if it wasn't so unoriginal. - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8gqdOnH0ZJUVoUkMRAnlVAKC1UIgA4IJ5YxSmb6aD7jBaskv3vwCgvy1g kcOMj9u5QGybORMoEmZvqt8= =WOY9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Mar 3 15:48:41 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] It's not easy to be a Swede nowadays In-Reply-To: <20020303224430.GR4166@kobayashi.soze.net>; from justin-cm@soze.net on Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 10:44:30PM +0000 References: <20020303211226.GA17449@borgship.net> <20020303224430.GR4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020303154841.B2138@zgp.org> begin Justin quotation of Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 10:44:30PM +0000: > begin quote 2002-03-03 21:12 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) > by Joakim Andersson > > > dances nude in a gay bar. He blushed and said, "I'm sorry but my dad > > plays hockey for Team Sweden, and I was just too embarrassed to say so." > > Which of course would be funny if it wasn't so unoriginal. The real punch line is "Arrr, it's drivin' me nuts!" -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From ziccardi at digitalfreaks.org Sat Mar 2 15:47:37 2002 From: ziccardi at digitalfreaks.org (Chad Ziccardi) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] learn PERL!!! In-Reply-To: <20020302113011.A17543@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020302183850.D97987-100000@digitalfreaks.org> On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Don Marti wrote: > "Matt Wright's PERL Script Forum contains hundreds of postings > concerning Matt Wright's useful PERL scripts. This is the BEST way to > learn the PERL programming language and CGI. Matt's Script Archive, > created by Matt Wright, contains useful PERL scripts which he has > written for the Internet community. Thousands of Web masters world > wide use Matt's Scripts." > > http://www.lookwww.com/webmast/perl.htm ...and the reason Not Matt's Shit was found on sourceforge. http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/ -- Chad Ziccardi, Professional Slacker cz@digitalfreaks.org "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." From nick at zork.net Sun Mar 3 18:02:23 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Mae Ling Mak Message-ID: <20020304020223.GO4819@zork.net> http://www.gothtrailerpark.com/ -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) 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From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 09:11:42 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything] Harvard, Even] Message-ID: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> http://jerkcity.com/jerkcity1250.html perfect. ----- Forwarded message from Fred Reed ----- To: From: "Fred Reed" Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 22:55:04 -0200 Subject: [FredOnEverything] Harvard, Even Reply-To: FredOnEverything-owner@yahoogroups.com Hahvud Gets Sillier Queer Studies Comes To Romper Room I see in the Harvard Crimson,* once the students' newspaper of what was once a university, that Boston's foremost daycare center, Harvard itself, wobbles toward adopting Queer Studies. Soon, apparently, there will be a Department. Why, you might ask, does Harvard want to study queers? It doesn't, methinks. I suspect that the adolescents of Harvard, a category which also includes many of the students, merely want to behave disagreeably - to shock their parents or, in the case of the faculty, society. Queer Studies serves nicely. Next year it will be S&M Studies, Pedophile Studies, or a Department of Cannibalism. On almost all campuses, the behavior of both the studentry and the professoriate is remarkably teenaged in savor. Universities are not the potting soil of maturity. The kids act like teenagers because they are teenagers. Members of the faculty do it, I think, because someone once told them that they were intellectuals. It is an odd idea, given the near-total inability of a professor to think anything that all the other professors don't think. To be an intellectual it isn't enough, or even necessary, to teach competently. One must take to the barricades, any barricades; pose in coffee shops, such as the New York Times Review of Books; and gambol on the cutting edge, often of fields that do not have a cutting edge. One must Go Forward. Loitering in the avant garde, a favored hobby of minor intelligences, allows them both to annoy and to congratulate themselves on their advanced thinking. All of this rests on the passive-aggressive hostility of the resentfully inconsequential. Thus Queer Studies. A tenured professor cannot stamp his feet, throw creamed spinach from his high chair, or hold his breath and turn blue. Such candor would be thought excessive. He might find himself being forcibly diapered by passersby. Instead of spitting food, he advocates whatever will distress the country, to which he sees himself in a position of tutelary superiority. What, exactly, is Queer Studies? Part of the impetus behind Harvard's queerward lunge, saith the Crimson, is a lecturer in Literature, appropriately named Heather Love. Let us listen to Heather: "Queer studies is about what thinking about sexuality can teach us about identity and desire in general." If this means anything, she didn't say what. I'm inclined to think that students unsure of their identity might better consult their driver's licenses instead of turning Harvard further into a den of psychotherapy. And if Heather thinks that college students need a special department to enable them to think about sexuality, she ought to get out more. She continues, does this beskirted testimonial for Spengler, "Everyone has a gender and a sexuality - this field is not narrow, but rather incredibly expansive." ("Rather incredibly"? Oh Strunk, oh White....) It is perhaps true that everyone has a gender and a sexuality, despite the asseverations of my divorced acquaintances, but I am not sure this is a reason for studying queers. Everyone has an esophagus. Should we not have Esophageal Studies? Putting it more solemnly, the existence of a group does not obviously make it deserving of a university department. Which brings us to an important point: The objection to Queer Studies is not that queers are reprehensible - I think they are not - but that the subject is too narrow for a major. Queers are a tiny group of a few percent of the population and of no great importance as a group. Yes, they have contributed much to civilization. So have people with warts. We do not have Wart Studies. Yet. One might as well have a Department of Left-Handedness, or of Amputee Studies, or Balding Presbyterian in Cowboy Hat Studies. (Actually, not a bad idea.) A purpose of a university education is to provide the broad background to allow independent study of narrower specialties. Anyone interested in queers can easily study them at a library or, depending on the intensity of interest, in a gay bar. But there is yet more in the Crimson. Queer Studies has behind it that siege howitzer of appropriate thinking, the school's president. Listen: "University President Lawrence H. Summers says he agrees that queer studies could potentially effect a broad range of disciplines." What this means is mysterious. What is clear is that the reporter, writing in Harvard's newspaper, doesn't know "effect" from "affect," and that the Crimson needs an editor. Or another editor. It is to me disheartening that the populace of the nation's premier university speaks English with the elegance and lyricism of a bladder infection. She continues (there is a point in this; wait) with a direct quote from Summers, "I don't think there is any question that issues of identity...is crucial in a range of intellectual areas." Whether this is more opaque than fatuous, or fatuous than opaque, may be debated by others wiser than I. Somebody should tell the president of Harvard that a verb agrees with the subject of the sentence, not with the object of the nearest preposition. Does everyone at Harvard talk like a concussed recent immigrant? Now, it may seem that I am being pointlessly snotty about the infelicity of language. No. I am being pointfully snotty. There appears to be a direct correlation between the rise of political hobbyism and the decline of careful literacy, and for that matter of genuine scholarship, in our academic theme-parks. As best I can tell, the quality of study, and of faculty, in departments varies inversely with the degree of politicization. Black Studies and Women's Studies are scholastically absurd, as many know and few say. (They are also wildly militant, which is why they continue to exist.) Departments of literature and of "social sciences" (as in "cosmetology science") are nearly as political, and as vacuous. Schools of chemistry and engineering remain healthy: No one has yet suggested that all equations should have the same answer so as to avoid invidious distinctions. There is a reason why so many purported scholars express themselves so poorly. Good English rests on a precision of thought, a desire for clarity, and an appreciation of language that are inconsistent with enraged self-absorption. Genuine scholarship requires a focus on things other than psychic distempers. It does not cohabit easily with obsessive concern with oneself, one's identity, one's stultifying malaises and tedious angers - that is, with the characteristic concerns of teenagers. Succinctly, scholarship is not the domain of academic twerps. But that is who runs the universities. www.fredoneverything.net * "Queer Studies Advances Cause" by Jessica E. Vascellaro, the Crimson, February 28, 2002 ©Fred Reed 2002 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org Water, taken in moderation cannot hurt anybody. -- Mark Twain From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 4 09:17:13 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020304171713.GS4819@zork.net> It's a start. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- debaser@getanotherfuckingisp.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 4 09:25:46 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] plagiarist.com Message-ID: <20020304172546.GT4819@zork.net> In a beautifully self-referential coup, the plagiarist.com site explains itself solely with this Eliot quotation: > One of the surest of tests is the way in which a poet borrows. > Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what > they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least > something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of > feeling which is unique, utterly different from that from which it > was torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no > cohesion. A good poet will usually borrow from authors remote in > time, or alien in language, or diverse in interest. > > --T.S. Eliot (1888-1965). "Philip Massinger" The Sacred Wood: > Essays on Poetry and Criticism. 1922. Of course, this site has some delicious implications regarding fair use and the originality of the works of humankind and all of that. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mdillon at standmed.com Mon Mar 4 09:34:42 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > ----- Forwarded message from Fred Reed ----- GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST, you fucking "Fags are perverts" twit. -md From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 09:44:33 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 09:34:42AM -0800, mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley wrote: >begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: >> ----- Forwarded message from Fred Reed ----- > >GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST, you fucking "Fags are perverts" twit. Where the hell did you get "fags are perverts" from anything in what I forwarded? Seems to me like you read the title and jumped to a typical "ohmigod he's talking bad about queers so he must be a homophobic neanderthal" politically-correct-let's-not-offend-anyone opinion and just generally made an ass out of yourself. Have fun contemplating your navel. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org It is very vulgar to talk like a dentist when one isn't a dentist. It produces a false impression. -- Oscar Wilde. From mdillon at standmed.com Mon Mar 4 09:54:00 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304175400.GA23222@eber.embody.org> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > Where the hell did you get "fags are perverts" from anything in what I > forwarded? I think it was the implication that S&M, Pedophile, and Cannibalism studies are next. > "ohmigod he's talking bad about queers so he must be a homophobic > neanderthal" politically-correct-let's-not-offend-anyone opinion and > just generally made an ass out of yourself. Actually, my first thought was "This forwarded shit is from Yahoo groups, I probably should just ignore it". Too bad I didn't. -md From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 09:54:06 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > Where the hell did you get "fags are perverts" from anything in what > I forwarded? Mr. McLeod, I suggest you read the list's charter RIGHT NOW. It is appended at the end of each message posted to it. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 10:03:43 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] plagiarist.com In-Reply-To: <20020304172546.GT4819@zork.net> References: <20020304172546.GT4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304180343.GU4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-04 17:25 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Nick Moffitt > In a beautifully self-referential coup, the plagiarist.com site > explains itself solely with this Eliot quotation: > > > One of the surest of tests is the way in which a poet borrows. > > Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what > > they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least > > something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of > > feeling which is unique, utterly different from that from which it > > was torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no > > cohesion. A good poet will usually borrow from authors remote in > > time, or alien in language, or diverse in interest. > > > > --T.S. Eliot (1888-1965). "Philip Massinger" The Sacred Wood: > > Essays on Poetry and Criticism. 1922. This might actually matter if plagiarist.com had a significant amount of material that is in-copyright and rights-reserved (distribution prohibited). Even Jough realizes that nothing can escape the sharp eye of the Copyright Patrol. The site is further trivialized by its "fine print" section, which contains one of the infinite number of abused and hackneyed disclaimers which did their laps in the meme pool many years ago. This in itself wouldn't be so terrible, except that this disclaimer variant is COPYRIGHTED by Jough. I guess he figures a site without basic philosophical contradictions is worthless. > Of course, this site has some delicious implications regarding fair > use and the originality of the works of humankind and all of that. I must have missed the "recipes collection.". Could you please provide a URL? - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8g7b/nH0ZJUVoUkMRArZ1AJ9wS8U8dgmD05pR+n5/K5psHXjz3ACgkumD 5/CqVLC4VOf1igEMGxWgVWY= =9Swy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mdillon at standmed.com Mon Mar 4 10:08:28 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > Mr. McLeod, I suggest you read the list's charter RIGHT NOW. > > It is appended at the end of each message posted to it. There's that, too, but I actually did read what he sent; it wasn't just non-sequitur. The author reminds me of one of those guys who says "What do you mean I'm RACIST? LOOK! I've even got a few BLACK FRIENDS! Would a racist have BLACK FRIENDS?!?" So the fuck what if he says "[t]he objection to Queer Studies is not that queers are reprehensible - I think they are not" when in the same piece he implicitly equates homosexuality with pedophilia and cannibalism. Even if he only means to compare them in terms of their marginality, his choice of those examples shows the light in which he regards homosexuality. He thinks it's perverted. -md From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 10:09:31 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304175400.GA23222@eber.embody.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175400.GA23222@eber.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020304180931.GB4799@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 09:54:00AM -0800, mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley wrote: >begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: >> Where the hell did you get "fags are perverts" from anything in what I >> forwarded? > >I think it was the implication that S&M, Pedophile, and Cannibalism >studies are next. I think it was his implication that such studies would be about as useless an academic pursuit as his subject matter, andd about as useful in inciting controversy. I'm not going to deny the man's pretty die-hard conservative, though, so feel free to interpret it however you want. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org Wait! You have not been prepared! -- Mr. Atoz, "Tomorrow is Yesterday", stardate 3113.2 From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 10:12:23 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 09:54:06AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: >> Where the hell did you get "fags are perverts" from anything in what >> I forwarded? > >Mr. McLeod, I suggest you read the list's charter RIGHT NOW. > >It is appended at the end of each message posted to it. So? Does that mean two-sided arguments aren't allowed? Whenever some dimwit posts an 'ad-hominem personal attack' one is supposed to pack up and move to the next topic? -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org Power, n.: The only narcotic regulated by the SEC instead of the FDA. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 10:13:52 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020304181352.GV4819@zork.net> begin mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley quotation: > The author reminds me of one of those guys who says "What do you > mean I'm RACIST? LOOK! I've even got a few BLACK FRIENDS! Would a > racist have BLACK FRIENDS?!?" Goddammit! WHY OH WHY must you BELITTLE the WHITE MAN'S BURDEN? *raising palm to forehead* *swooning* I can only hope that my BLACK FRIENDS will catch me! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 10:18:40 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > So? Does that mean two-sided arguments aren't allowed? Whenever > some dimwit posts an 'ad-hominem personal attack' one is supposed to > pack up and move to the next topic? No, but you could start with a few yo mama jokes. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 10:23:57 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 10:18:40AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: >> So? Does that mean two-sided arguments aren't allowed? Whenever >> some dimwit posts an 'ad-hominem personal attack' one is supposed to >> pack up and move to the next topic? > > No, but you could start with a few yo mama jokes. flaf. understood. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org Must be getting close to town -- we're hitting more people. From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Mar 4 10:25:20 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304182520.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Jeremy McLeod (jeremym@loonix.org): > Whenever some dimwit posts an 'ad-hominem personal attack' one is > supposed to pack up and move to the next topic? No, you're supposed to respond with equal and opposite crackheaded spew. I'm surprised I have to explain this to you. Mr. Dillon just demonstrated most competently the basic technique of ignoring substantive arguments and responding with tantrums over irrelevancies. I suggest you study his example attentively. -- Cheers, "Don't use Outlook. Outlook is really just a security Rick Moen hole with a small e-mail client attached to it." rick@linuxmafia.com -- Brian Trosko in r.a.sf.w.r-j From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 10:25:32 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020304182532.GV4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-04 18:08 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley > begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > > Mr. McLeod, I suggest you read the list's charter RIGHT NOW. > > > > It is appended at the end of each message posted to it. > > There's that, too, but I actually did read what he sent; it wasn't just > non-sequitur. The author reminds me of one of those guys who says "What > do you mean I'm RACIST? LOOK! I've even got a few BLACK FRIENDS! Would > a racist have BLACK FRIENDS?!?" > > So the fuck what if he says "[t]he objection to Queer Studies is not > that queers are reprehensible - I think they are not" when in the same > piece he implicitly equates homosexuality with pedophilia and > cannibalism. Even if he only means to compare them in terms of their > marginality, his choice of those examples shows the light in which he > regards homosexuality. He thinks it's perverted. Blah blah blah anyone who suggests something that is *not* politically correct must be compensating for some deep-seated hatred. I hope you're not suggesting that homosexuality isn't perverted. I also hope you're not suggesting that Mr. Defensive is not a pedophile, S&M/snuff/cannibalism junkie with bestial tendencies, and closet-bound homosexual. Why just the other day the cops got called to his residence twice based on reports that he was eating young cats' eyeballs while engaging in otherwise highly questionable activities. I'm surprised PETA hasn't cut his internet connectivity. - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8g7wcnH0ZJUVoUkMRAlW1AJ9UrDF45IdqZieE/in59c1FIBcj3gCgiBRt SVzIHdJ+BomE9vbHR/oVkiM= =rwdP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 10:27:17 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > > No, but you could start with a few yo mama jokes. > > flaf. understood. > > -- And FIX YOUR GODDAMN SIG DELIMITER. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 4 10:28:29 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Memewatch Message-ID: <20020304182829.GY4819@zork.net> http://www.google.com/search?q=fix+your+goddamn+sig+delimiter&hl=en&filter=0 -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 10:31:13 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304180931.GB4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175400.GA23222@eber.embody.org> <20020304180931.GB4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304183113.GW4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-04 18:09 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Jeremy McLeod > On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 09:54:00AM -0800, mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley wrote: > >begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > >> Where the hell did you get "fags are perverts" from anything in what I > >> forwarded? > > > >I think it was the implication that S&M, Pedophile, and Cannibalism > >studies are next. > > I think it was his implication that such studies would be about as > useless an academic pursuit as his subject matter, andd about as useful > in inciting controversy. Why didn't he include abortion then? Or the death penalty, or... He picked other examples that were sure to go over poorly with almost everyone, and compared them to a field of study that may not be more useful, but is certainly more controversial. - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8g71xnH0ZJUVoUkMRAlbaAJ9rZXtQURqdxpQRnz12bp1Fgcj89QCfc3LQ gqZV/uUWFbh/tTIS3eGEzxA= =/dBo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 10:37:39 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020304183739.GX4166@kobayashi.soze.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin quote 2002-03-04 17:34 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley > begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > > ----- Forwarded message from Fred Reed ----- > > GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST, you fucking "Fags are perverts" twit. In other news, a google search for "closet" returns this under "related groups": news.admin.net-abuse.sightings I never knew closets were so abusive. - -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6c (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8g77znH0ZJUVoUkMRAkuyAJ9vCmLrcAPQiw9QQTszEGXnbRHjYgCghHtk ZEdvi22ZYCN1lLDsSUSt/zk= =VSbz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 10:38:12 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 10:27:17AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: >> > No, but you could start with a few yo mama jokes. >> >> flaf. understood. >> >> -- > >And FIX YOUR GODDAMN SIG DELIMITER. lick my balls. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org Matter cannot be created or destroyed, nor can it be returned without a receipt. From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 10:40:03 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304182532.GV4166@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> <20020304182532.GV4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020304184003.GG4799@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 06:25:32PM +0000, Justin wrote: >I also hope you're not suggesting that Mr. Defensive is not a >pedophile, S&M/snuff/cannibalism junkie with bestial tendencies, and >closet-bound homosexual. Why just the other day the cops got called >to his residence twice based on reports that he was eating young >cats' eyeballs while engaging in otherwise highly questionable >activities. I'm surprised PETA hasn't cut his internet connectivity. That wasn't me. That was the guy down the street. er. shut up. i ate your mother. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 4 10:47:55 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Python Specializing COmpiler Message-ID: <20020304184755.GZ4819@zork.net> http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~arigo/psyco/ from the docs: > Of course, ``significant optimization'' is a fuzzy concept. > Currently, there are a few simple heuristics, based on the idea that > when what comes next depends on an essential way on the value of the > variable, it would be a significant optimization to know that value > at compile-time. The first thing this applies to is of course the > bytecode itself: if we don't know it at compile-time, we are dead. > But it also applies, say, to the type pointer inside of Python > objects in numerous operations which, like numeric operations, > depend essentially on the type. While emitting code, Psyco manages a > list of all the variables and which ones are currently run-time or > compile-time. > > There is actually a third category: virtual-time variables, whose > exact value is never physically known, neither at compile-time nor > at run-time. They are typical in complex expressions, where the > intermediate values should normally be stored in temporary Python > objects. Actually building these objects is often not needed; all > that is needed is the value that would be put in the fields of the > structure if it would have been built. In this situation, the > variable pointing to the non-existent structure is virtual-time. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 10:48:28 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > >And FIX YOUR GODDAMN SIG DELIMITER. > > lick my balls. Bite my scabs, pigfuqr. Fix the delimiter. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 10:54:41 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304183113.GW4166@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175400.GA23222@eber.embody.org> <20020304180931.GB4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304183113.GW4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020304185441.GH4799@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 06:31:13PM +0000, Justin wrote: >begin quote 2002-03-04 18:09 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) >by Jeremy McLeod >> I think it was his implication that such studies would be about as >> useless an academic pursuit as his subject matter, andd about as useful >> in inciting controversy. > >Why didn't he include abortion then? Or the death penalty, or... Abortions and the death penality aren't marginal social issues and deserve discourse in an academic setting, particularly law schools and the like. >He picked other examples that were sure to go over poorly with almost >everyone, and compared them to a field of study that may not be more >useful, but is certainly more controversial. True. It's easy to imagine, though, that his purpose was to extract exactly the type of kneejerk reaction that mr. dillon displayed. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org No small art is it to sleep: it is necessary for that purpose to keep awake all day. -- Nietzsche From mdillon at standmed.com Mon Mar 4 11:00:49 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304182532.GV4166@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> <20020304182532.GV4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020304190049.GB4900@lxbox3.embody.org> begin Justin quotation: > I hope you're not suggesting that homosexuality isn't perverted. Actually, I'll just come out and state it, no suggesting needed: Homosexuality is not perverted. -md From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Mon Mar 4 10:57:50 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:12:23 EST." <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <200203041857.g24Ivoog000507@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:12:23 EST, Jeremy McLeod said: > So? Does that mean two-sided arguments aren't allowed? Whenever some > dimwit posts an 'ad-hominem personal attack' one is supposed to pack up > and move to the next topic? Only if we have to invoke Godwin before we move to the next topic. From mdillon at standmed.com Mon Mar 4 11:02:54 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304185441.GH4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175400.GA23222@eber.embody.org> <20020304180931.GB4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304183113.GW4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304185441.GH4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304190254.GC4900@lxbox3.embody.org> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > True. It's easy to imagine, though, that his purpose was to extract > exactly the type of kneejerk reaction that mr. dillon displayed. Great. -md From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 11:04:09 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> > begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > > >And FIX YOUR GODDAMN SIG DELIMITER. > > > > lick my balls. > > Bite my scabs, pigfuqr. > > Fix the delimiter. And learn how to use list-reply. About all you can do properly is come up with ad-hominem attacks. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From mdillon at standmed.com Mon Mar 4 11:11:03 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <200203041857.g24Ivoog000507@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <200203041857.g24Ivoog000507@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020304191103.GA5088@lxbox3.embody.org> begin Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu quotation: > Only if we have to invoke Godwin before we move to the next topic. I'm not into that Occult shit, man. The lot of that stuff is sick and twisted. Perversion plain and simple. -md From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 11:13:33 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 07:04:09PM +0000, Justin wrote: >And learn how to use list-reply. About all you can do properly is >come up with ad-hominem attacks. I'm too lazy to copy/paste. Provide a Mail-Followup-To if you don't want to recieve two copies. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 11:22:20 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-04 19:13 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Jeremy McLeod > On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 07:04:09PM +0000, Justin wrote: > >And learn how to use list-reply. About all you can do properly is > >come up with ad-hominem attacks. > > I'm too lazy to copy/paste. Provide a Mail-Followup-To if you don't > want to recieve two copies. Typical. "Your mail client is completely ignorant of lists, fix it." "No, you fix your client, which can actually deal with things properly." Why don't you get a real MUA? -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 11:31:53 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> begin Justin quotation: > Typical. "Your mail client is completely ignorant of lists, fix it." > "No, you fix your client, which can actually deal with things > properly." > > Why don't you get a real MUA? There are two mechanisms for posting that retain geek cachet while not using a "real MUA": 1: mailx 2: telnet to port 25 Insert here the MUA equivalent of the "steers and queers" beratement, with no implication of perversity. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 11:45:36 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> References: <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304194536.GA18342@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-04 19:31 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco > begin Justin quotation: > > Typical. "Your mail client is completely ignorant of lists, fix it." > > "No, you fix your client, which can actually deal with things > > properly." > > > > Why don't you get a real MUA? > > There are two mechanisms for posting that retain geek cachet > while not using a "real MUA": > > 1: mailx > 2: telnet to port 25 Geeks are not stupid. Those border on stupidity. Anyone regularly using telnet to send mail is already doing plenty of cutting and pasting, so there's no excuse for that one. mailx, well, if you use mailx for lists let me know; you're masochistic and I don't want to read anything you say. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 11:46:24 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> References: <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304194624.GA10589@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 11:31:53AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > There are two mechanisms for posting that retain geek cachet >while not using a "real MUA": > > 1: mailx > 2: telnet to port 25 Actually, I'm using mutt, but was ignorant of this list-reply feature. That's been corrected. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 11:52:45 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304194624.GA10589@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> <20020304194624.GA10589@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304195245.GC4819@zork.net> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > Actually, I'm using mutt, but was ignorant of this list-reply feature. > That's been corrected. > > -- As has your sig delimiter. Welcome to the real world. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 11:53:40 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304194624.GA10589@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> <20020304194624.GA10589@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304195340.GB18342@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-04 19:46 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Jeremy McLeod > On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 11:31:53AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > There are two mechanisms for posting that retain geek cachet > >while not using a "real MUA": > > > > 1: mailx > > 2: telnet to port 25 > > Actually, I'm using mutt, but was ignorant of this list-reply feature. > That's been corrected. Behold, pigs have exited the atmosphere! -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From justin-cm at soze.net Mon Mar 4 12:11:23 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304195245.GC4819@zork.net> References: <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> <20020304194624.GA10589@pug.chroot.net> <20020304195245.GC4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020304201123.GC18342@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-04 19:52 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco > begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > > Actually, I'm using mutt, but was ignorant of this list-reply feature. > > That's been corrected. > > > > -- > > As has your sig delimiter. Welcome to the real world. That's not a sig delimiter, that's tasty wheat. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 12:16:44 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304182520.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182520.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20020304201644.GA11089@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 10:25:20AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: >-- >Cheers, "Don't use Outlook. Outlook is really just a security >Rick Moen hole with a small e-mail client attached to it." >rick@linuxmafia.com -- Brian Trosko in r.a.sf.w.r-j You're an RJ fan. Neat. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Mar 4 12:38:06 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Jeremy McLeod quotation: > So? Does that mean two-sided arguments aren't allowed? Whenever some > dimwit posts an 'ad-hominem personal attack' one is supposed to pack up > and move to the next topic? A mindfully adequate validity was not rapid. The perspicuous adherence is singularly artificial. It should be noted that the current proposal based upon the material motivation is known to be progressing, and whether or not an entire input is not at the maximization, a unified description is very adequate. It is intuitively clear that a broad advent is giving rise to a potential usefulness. It seems natural that a good date is known to be essentially tendentious. It would not be unreasonable to assume that the abstract quota is not at the irrespectively schedulable architecture. As a consequence of the fact that a valuable quantity is known to be unprecedented, the consequent result is not epistemologically modified, but if a definiteness is not being effectuated by a different violation, a proposed enhancement is not below the minimal adaptation. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8g9sgjLHcIq3dHxYRAjLpAKC2l8TsbaDMy5L4fTlKWJc+wonvaACg7NYi Fm2m2tx2Yl4JsWCC4aA/wBc= =fet9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Mar 4 12:45:37 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304201644.GA11089@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182520.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> <20020304201644.GA11089@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304204537.GF10153@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Jeremy McLeod (jeremym@loonix.org): > You're an RJ fan. Neat. He's a hack, but he's a fun hack. But I'm much more a fan of r.a.sf.w.r-j. http://linuxmafia.com/pub/humour/alt.Shrugged -- Cheers, "Don't use Outlook. Outlook is really just a security Rick Moen hole with a small e-mail client attached to it." rick@linuxmafia.com -- Brian Trosko in r.a.sf.w.r-j From random at nandgate.com Mon Mar 4 12:57:18 2002 From: random at nandgate.com (Random Feature) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <1015275438.2503.22.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 14:38, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > commence Jeremy McLeod quotation: > > So? Does that mean two-sided arguments aren't allowed? Whenever some > > dimwit posts an 'ad-hominem personal attack' one is supposed to pack up > > and move to the next topic? > > A mindfully adequate validity was not rapid. The perspicuous adherence > is singularly artificial. It should be noted that the current proposal > based upon the material motivation is known to be progressing, and > whether or not an entire input is not at the maximization, a unified > description is very adequate. > > It is intuitively clear that a broad advent is giving rise to a > potential usefulness. It seems natural that a good date is known to be > essentially tendentious. It would not be unreasonable to assume that > the > abstract quota is not at the irrespectively schedulable architecture. > As a consequence of the fact that a valuable quantity is known to be > unprecedented, the consequent result is not epistemologically modified, > but if a definiteness is not being effectuated by a different > violation, a proposed enhancement is not below the minimal adaptation. > Sometimes reading this list ranks right up there with watching a monkey try to fuck a football. Random Feature From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Mar 4 13:08:58 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304204537.GF10153@linuxmafia.com> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182520.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> <20020304201644.GA11089@pug.chroot.net> <20020304204537.GF10153@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20020304210858.GE11089@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 12:45:37PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: >Quoting Jeremy McLeod (jeremym@loonix.org): > >> You're an RJ fan. Neat. > >He's a hack, but he's a fun hack. > >But I'm much more a fan of r.a.sf.w.r-j. I tend to stay away from fanboy type lists/groups. I was on a WOT mailing list for a while. Those people make Star Trek dorks seem normal. There are only so many times one can stand to read some freak's pet theory of where the Forsaken are hiding, what Rand's next move is, and who the Aelfinn are. Gak. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Mar 4 13:17:35 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304210858.GE11089@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182520.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> <20020304201644.GA11089@pug.chroot.net> <20020304204537.GF10153@linuxmafia.com> <20020304210858.GE11089@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304211735.GI10153@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Jeremy McLeod (jeremym@loonix.org): >> But I'm much more a fan of r.a.sf.w.r-j. > > I tend to stay away from fanboy type lists/groups. Then you wouldn't like alt.fan.r-j . But you might possibly like r.a.sf.w.r-j . Nobody gives much of a damn about the books. (That gets relegated to the FAQ.) Except to analyse new volumes for about a month after they appear. It's about the banter. > I was on a WOT mailing list for a while. See alt.fan.r-j . From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Mon Mar 4 13:32:52 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Mar 2002 14:57:18 CST." <1015275438.2503.22.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> <1015275438.2503.22.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> Message-ID: <200203042132.g24LWrog027167@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 14:57:18 CST, Random Feature said: > On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 14:38, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the > Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > > A mindfully adequate validity was not rapid. The perspicuous adherence > > is singularly artificial. It should be noted that the current proposal > Sometimes reading this list ranks right up there with watching a monkey > try to fuck a football. football, stockholder... same difference.. ;) From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Mar 4 14:36:19 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ]Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <1015275438.2503.22.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> <1015275438.2503.22.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> Message-ID: <20020304223619.GB761@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Random Feature quotation: > Sometimes reading this list ranks right up there with watching a monkey > try to fuck a football. Hotchachacha - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8g/bhjLHcIq3dHxYRAsGuAJ9m0rRsWVmxT+XSPkY7Rjgux92gFACg/rpx a0AOLNjquz5vxzpd9oqQNUE= =R+mq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From poop at crapmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 15:12:40 2002 From: poop at crapmonkey.org (poop@crapmonkey.org) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Python Specializing COmpiler In-Reply-To: <20020304184755.GZ4819@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of "Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:47:55 -0800") References: <20020304184755.GZ4819@zork.net> Message-ID: * Nick Moffitt : > http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~arigo/psyco/ I have this wacky alternative idea. Why don't we all just use Common Lisp instead? Our favorite free Common Lisp-compiler is even called Python (predates the language Python), and it generates native code for x86, MIPS, Sparc and Alpha. And if some deep-seated hatred for parentheses is getting you down (this is all C's fault, by the way), just have the reader use some abomination like {} or <> or whatever. Or alternatively, you must, ahem, unlearn what you have learnt. (Sorry.) Now, just put these in your sources.list: deb http://cclan.sourceforge.net/debian cclan lisp deb-src http://cclan.sourceforge.net/debian cclan lisp Then do # apt-get install ilisp cmucl-normal cmucl-source encycmuclopedia \ hyperspec Enjoy. -- poopmastah From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 15:25:51 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304210858.GE11089@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182520.GB10153@linuxmafia.com> <20020304201644.GA11089@pug.chroot.net> <20020304204537.GF10153@linuxmafia.com> <20020304210858.GE11089@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020304232551.GE4819@zork.net> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > There are only so many times one can stand to read some freak's pet > theory of where the Forsaken are hiding, what Rand's next move is, > and who the Aelfinn are. Gak. They're on Aalderann with all of the other Cling-ons. DUH! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 15:27:23 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020304232723.GF4819@zork.net> begin Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin quotation: > A mindfully adequate validity was not rapid. The perspicuous > adherence is singularly artificial. It should be noted that the > current proposal based upon the material motivation is known to be > progressing, and whether or not an entire input is not at the > maximization, a unified description is very adequate. Someone take the fucking thesaurus away from Octal. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sam at dasbistro.com Mon Mar 4 16:34:49 2002 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Baron of Washoe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020304171713.GS4819@zork.net> References: <20020304171713.GS4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020305003449.GM11350@dasbistro.com> Dude, the Pixies are gone and there's nothing you can do to bring them back. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- debaser@getanotherfuckingisp.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From schoen at loyalty.org Mon Mar 4 16:59:58 2002 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304191103.GA5088@lxbox3.embody.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <200203041857.g24Ivoog000507@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <20020304191103.GA5088@lxbox3.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020305005958.GR1058@zork.net> mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley writes: > begin Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu quotation: > > Only if we have to invoke Godwin before we move to the next topic. > > I'm not into that Occult shit, man. The lot of that stuff is sick and > twisted. Perversion plain and simple. You begin praying to Godwin. You finish your prayer.--More-- You feel that Godwin is well-pleased.--More-- You are surrounded by a golden glow. -- Seth David Schoen | Reading is a right, not a feature! http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | -- Kathryn Myronuk http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | From sharkey at zoic.org Mon Mar 4 20:27:28 2002 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'Sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304190049.GB4900@lxbox3.embody.org>; from mdillon@standmed.com on Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:00:49AM -0800 References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> <20020304182532.GV4166@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304190049.GB4900@lxbox3.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020305152728.A3426@dwerryhouse.com.au> mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley wrote: > > Homosexuality is not perverted. ... unless you're doing it right. ------sharks (dept. pub. warts) From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 4 21:05:37 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> We don't speak Ukrainian here. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- kagemusha@gmx.co.uk has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 4 21:13:04 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] To commemorate our decision that GNU and Linux should be partners, we will resume use of the name "Debian GNU/Linux" for our system. Message-ID: <20020305051304.GH4819@zork.net> http://web.archive.org/web/19970414141107/www.debian.org/cooperation.html -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Mon Mar 4 21:44:52 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Mar 2002 21:05:37 PST." <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 21:05:37 PST, Nick Moffitt said: > We don't speak Ukrainian here. Don't sweat it, the .UK is equally fluent in Ukranian and English. ;) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 21:49:48 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> begin Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu quotation: > Don't sweat it, the .UK is equally fluent in Ukranian and English. ;) Dammit! It's not "The" Ukraine any more! It's just Ukrainia! Give the bastards some self-determination for once! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Mar 4 23:13:05 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020305071305.GA3966@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > begin Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu quotation: > > Don't sweat it, the .UK is equally fluent in Ukranian and English. ;) > > Dammit! It's not "The" Ukraine any more! It's just Ukrainia! > Give the bastards some self-determination for once! Better inform the CIA world factbook, they've got it listed as "Ukraine" and "Ukrayina" - -- Brian Hicks The ghosts represent open-source programmers, and our delicious civil liberties. -- Penny Arcade -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8hG/YjLHcIq3dHxYRAr8EAJ9Gpbj1X2GjVYbeybcY1PR3jkKyggCbBjFD ScsPJtg3tBShduWT8Nx9mnQ= =O9Dz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Mar 4 23:31:06 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020305071305.GA3966@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> <20020305071305.GA3966@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020305073106.GJ4819@zork.net> begin Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin quotation: > > Dammit! It's not "The" Ukraine any more! It's just Ukrainia! > > Give the bastards some self-determination for once! > > Better inform the CIA world factbook, they've got it listed as > "Ukraine" and "Ukrayina" Jesux. They haven't finished incorporating the last patch I sent them: http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2001q2/019613.html Ingrates. I'm thinking of forking. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sneakums at zork.net Tue Mar 5 00:49:07 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304182532.GV4166@kobayashi.soze.net> (Justin's message of "Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:25:32 +0000") References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304180828.GA23245@eber.embody.org> <20020304182532.GV4166@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <6uwuwrl7r0.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Justin quotation: > I hope you're not suggesting that homosexuality isn't perverted. The only thing worse than homosexuality is heterosexuality. Mitosis now! -- "A cavalry would be a waste of time. Guys on bikes, that's the ticket!" -- Eamon de Valera From tyrak at borgship.net Tue Mar 5 03:12:18 2002 From: tyrak at borgship.net (Joakim Andersson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020305071305.GA3966@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> <20020305071305.GA3966@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020305111218.GA2567@borgship.net> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:13:05AM -0600, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > Better inform the CIA world factbook, they've got it listed as "Ukraine" > and "Ukrayina" When did CIA start to get anything right? -- Joakim Andersson ; tyrak@borgship.net ; http://borgship.net/~tyrak/ From justin-cm at soze.net Tue Mar 5 04:24:56 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020305111218.GA2567@borgship.net> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> <20020305071305.GA3966@8ball.wox.org> <20020305111218.GA2567@borgship.net> Message-ID: <20020305122456.GM18342@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-05 11:12 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Joakim Andersson > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:13:05AM -0600, Overlord of Minnesota > Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > > Better inform the CIA world factbook, they've got it listed as > > "Ukraine" and "Ukrayina" > > When did CIA start to get anything right? Most of them get rich smuggling drugs. I have difficulty seeing that as incompetence. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From justin-cm at soze.net Tue Mar 5 04:27:19 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020305122719.GN18342@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-05 05:44 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu > On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 21:05:37 PST, Nick Moffitt said: > > We don't speak Ukrainian here. > > Don't sweat it, the .UK is equally fluent in Ukranian and English. ;) "Defence," "legalise," etc. are NOT English. "Fish" swim, and "chips" are crunchy. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From claviola at alternex.com.br Tue Mar 5 05:03:31 2002 From: claviola at alternex.com.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304195245.GC4819@zork.net> References: <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> <20020304194624.GA10589@pug.chroot.net> <20020304195245.GC4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020305130331.GB18430@alternex.com.br> On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:52:45AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > > Actually, I'm using mutt, but was ignorant of this list-reply feature. > > That's been corrected. > > > > -- > > As has your sig delimiter. Welcome to the real world. Why do my eyes hurt? -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From azinman at ucsd.edu Tue Mar 5 08:09:33 2002 From: azinman at ucsd.edu (Aaron Zinman) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020305111218.GA2567@borgship.net> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> <20020305071305.GA3966@8ball.wox.org> <20020305111218.GA2567@borgship.net> Message-ID: When they prevented multiple attacks. Oh wait, that's controversial. >On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:13:05AM -0600, Overlord of Minnesota >Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: >> Better inform the CIA world factbook, they've got it listed as "Ukraine" >> and "Ukrayina" > >When did CIA start to get anything right? > >-- >Joakim Andersson ; tyrak@borgship.net ; http://borgship.net/~tyrak/ > >_______________________________________________ >CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks >http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 5 08:22:57 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Bobby Fischer is INSANE Message-ID: <20020305162257.GL4819@zork.net> http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/fischer/ Specifically, you listen to this one: http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/fischer/F_20_1.MP3 It sounds a lot like the dead milkmen at times: http://www.tmk.com/ftp/humor/i-like-you.stuart -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sneakums at zork.net Tue Mar 5 08:42:41 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: (Aaron Zinman's message of "Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:09:33 +0000") References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> <20020305071305.GA3966@8ball.wox.org> <20020305111218.GA2567@borgship.net> Message-ID: <6uzo1nj79a.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Aaron Zinman quotation: > When they prevented multiple attacks. Oh wait, that's controversial. Not compared to what you just did. > [21 lines snipped] -- "Henceforth, my homepage will be SSL-accessible only. I do not propose to explain why." -- Eamon de Valera From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 5 08:45:36 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [smkelly@zombie.org: Two Announcements] Message-ID: <20020305164536.GN4819@zork.net> Be sure to see http://www.slashnet.org/friends.php ----- Forwarded message from Sean Kelly ----- ITEM 1: ======= SlashNET has just launched a new website. This website makes the first steps at integrating Services, IRC and the web into a single website where users can login, check their MemoServ memos, create a profile, see a graphical routing map, and much more! We hope to add many new features to the website and invite you to check it out! http://www.slashnet.org/ (Some parts are not activated yet.) ITEM 2: ======= SlashNET will be holding a forum with CmdrTaco and the Slashdot crew. Like past forums, the forum will take place in #forum and you will be able to submit your questions for them to answer. The questions can be over any relevant topic, but the primary purpose of the forum is for discussion of Slashdot's new subscription system. We hope to see you there. Forum Date: Wednesday March 6, 2002 Time: 3:00 PM EST (20:00 UTC) Server: irc.slashnet.org Channel: #forum Discussion: #forum.d Thanks for using SlashNET. _______________________________________________ slashnet-announce mailing list slashnet-announce@slashnet.org http://www.slashnet.org/mailman/listinfo/slashnet-announce ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Mar 5 10:09:03 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cats and allergies! Message-ID: <20020305100902.A10161@zgp.org> Allergic to cats? Don't get rid of the cat, get a _leather couch_. http://www.msnbc.com/news/718394.asp?cp1=1 The cat will just _love_ that. Maybe the best solution is to make the couch out of cat hide. Or just take up the banjo. ...."But I helped my daddy make banjos. I don't know at the cats I got for him [for the hides]. But people got fond of'em. I had the best cat dog that could be got. I'd turn him loose and have my club tied right here [in a loop on his pants leg], and that dog would go to a house. I had him trained. He'd come to this house and run this cat away from there and take it to the woods and tree it. And I'd go climb the tree and motion about two or three times to it, and if it jumped, he'd catch it and hold it till I got down. He wouldn't chew it up. I had him trained so he wouldn't chew it! And then I'd get down and finish it off. I'd take'em in a sack and slip around through the woods so nobody wouldn't see me. I couldn't tell you how many I have took in. "But they got fond of'em. Back then they didn't care, you know. They'uz too many cats anyhow, and they didn't care much. But they just didn't want t'see you come t'th'house! "I wouldn't get th'last cat a man had [laughing]. When I got down to one, I'd leave it fer'im!" http://www.lrbcg.com/cgregory/barb/tripod/Vaudeville/Instruments/String.htm -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From neale at debian.org Tue Mar 5 10:14:31 2002 From: neale at debian.org (Neale Pickett) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Debian Project Leader Election 2002: Panelists Message-ID: Moderated by a Minor Open Source Deity! Break out the parsnips! To: debian-devel-announce@lists.debian.org, debian-vote@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian Project Leader Election 2002: Panelists From: Debian Project Secretary Hi folks, The following people have volunteered to be on the panel for the project leader debate. o Ben Collins o Randolph Chung , o James A. Treacy o Matthew Vernon Along with the moderator, Rob Levin, these people shall determine the date and the format of the debate. They shall be letting people know how to submit questions for their consideration. manoj From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Mar 4 10:37:17 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] free Symbolics LispMs, the wire-wrap kind. Message-ID: Hello, list. Mobilize thet Krautmonkeys! just hope they have the black tactile keyboards, and not the mushy grey keyboards. They probably come with mechanical mice. literal wiper-brush-and-commutator mechanical mice. And 16-bit audio, of course. And ``ZMacs''. -----forwarded----- From: Manuel Odendahl Subject: [LispM] 3600 LISP Machines Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:41:39 +0000 (Europe/Paris) To: lispm@tunes.org Cc: jkunz@student.uni-kl.de Message-ID: Hello list, i am a student in Germany, and just wanted to tell the list that two 3600 Symbolics machines are going to be trashed in Kaiserslautern. For more information, send mail to Jochen Kunz (jkunz@student.uni-kl.de). Cheers, Manuel -- Portabilitaet ist fuer Leute, die keine neuen Programme schreiben koennen _______________________________________________ LispM mailing list LispM@tunes.org http://lists.tunes.org/mailman/listinfo/lispm From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 10:31:55 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cats and allergies! In-Reply-To: <20020305100902.A10161@zgp.org> References: <20020305100902.A10161@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020305183154.GO4819@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > Allergic to cats? Don't get rid of the cat, get a _leather couch_. > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/718394.asp?cp1=1 > > The cat will just _love_ that. [*] Cover mattresses and cushions with zippered, plastic casings to cut down on allergen build-up. I'm reminded of the movie version of The Odd Couple, where the slobby guy sits on Unger's couch, and it has those damn things on. "You forgot to unwrap it." -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Mar 5 10:35:44 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Debian Project Leader Election 2002: Panelists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020305183544.GA14619@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Neale Pickett (neale@debian.org): > Moderated by a Minor Open Source Deity! Break out the parsnips! Will there be a lilo-free fork, as well? http://www.lilofree.net/ -- Cheers, "Please return all dogmas to their orthodox positions." Rick Moen -- Brad Johnson, in r.a.sf.w.r-j rick@linuxmafia.com From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 10:36:16 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] free Symbolics LispMs, the wire-wrap kind. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020305183616.GP4819@zork.net> begin Miles Nordin quotation: > Hello, list. Living in the past, are we? Date: 04 Mar 2002 13:37:17 -0500 -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Mar 5 10:48:05 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] free Symbolics LispMs, the wire-wrap kind. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020305184805.GB14619@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Miles Nordin (carton@Ivy.NET): > And ``ZMacs''. ZWEI was a so much better name for it. -- Cheers, Rick Moen Emacs is a decent operating system, rick@linuxmafia.com but it still lacks a good text editor. From opus at penguins.ca Tue Mar 5 10:48:43 2002 From: opus at penguins.ca (Chuck Daminato) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Do you like monkeys? Message-ID: <20020305134808.N22450-100000@home.samurai.com> If this is a duplicate, deal with it... I like monkeys. The pet store was selling them for five cents a piece. I thought that odd since they were normally a couple thousand each. I decided not to look a gift horse in the mouth. I bought 200. I like monkeys. I took my 200 monkeys home. I have a big car. I let one drive. His name was Sigmund. He was retarded. In fact, none of them were really bright. They kept punching themselves in their genitals. I laughed. Then they punched my genitals. I stopped laughing. I herded them into my room. They didn't adapt very well to their new environment. They would screech, hurl themselves off the couch at high speeds and slam into the wall. Although humorous at first, the spectacle lost its novelty halfway into its third hour. Two hours later I found out why all the monkeys were so inexpensive: they all died. No apparent reason. They all just sorta dropped dead. Kinda like when you buy a goldfish and it dies five hours later. Damn cheap monkeys. I didn't know what to do. There were 200 dead monkeys lying all over my room, on the bed, in the dresser, hanging from my bookcase. It looked like I had 200 throw rugs. I tried to flush one down the toilet. It didn't work. It got stuck. Then I had one dead, wet monkey and 199 dead, dry monkeys. I tried pretending that they were just stuffed animals. That worked for a while, that is until they began to decompose. It started to smell real bad. I had to pee but there was a dead monkey in the toilet and I didn't want to call the plumber. I was embarassed. I tried to slow down the decomposition by freezing them. Unfortunately there was only enough room for two monkeys at a time so I had to change them every 30 seconds. I also had to eat all the food in the freezer so it didn't all go bad. I tried burning them. Little did I know my bed was flammable. I had to extinguish the fire. Then I had one dead, wet monkey in my toilet, two dead, frozen monkeys in my freezer, and 197 dead, charred monkeys in a pile on my bed. The odor wasn't improving. I became agitated at my inability to dispose of my monkeys and to use the bathroom. I severely beat one of my monkeys. I felt better. I tried throwing them away but the garbage man said that the city wasn't allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones. I finally arrived at a solution. I have them out as Christmas gifts. My friends didn't know quite what to say. They pretended that they liked them but I could tell they were lying. Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals. I like monkeys. -- Chuck D From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 5 10:49:25 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FEAR OF RED PANDA Message-ID: <20020305184925.GQ4819@zork.net> http://www.seanbaby.com/news/col-lawsuit.htm > Two members of the United States Navy savagely defend their hive's > eggs in the documentary Doom. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 10:58:24 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Do you like monkeys? In-Reply-To: <20020305134808.N22450-100000@home.samurai.com> References: <20020305134808.N22450-100000@home.samurai.com> Message-ID: <20020305185824.GR4819@zork.net> begin Chuck Daminato quotation: > Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals. I like monkeys. Ahhhr! It's drivin' me nuts! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Mar 5 11:06:22 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cats and allergies! In-Reply-To: <20020305183154.GO4819@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:31:55AM -0800 References: <20020305100902.A10161@zgp.org> <20020305183154.GO4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020305110622.C10537@zgp.org> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:31:55AM -0800: > [*] Cover mattresses and cushions with zippered, plastic casings to > cut down on allergen build-up. And give each and every visitor to your home a sweaty ass. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Mar 5 11:07:39 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Debian Project Leader Election 2002: Panelists In-Reply-To: <20020305183544.GA14619@linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:35:44AM -0800 References: <20020305183544.GA14619@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20020305110739.D10537@zgp.org> begin Rick Moen quotation of Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:35:44AM -0800: > Will there be a lilo-free fork, as well? > http://www.lilofree.net/ GIF-using bastards. http://www.lilofree.net/lilofree.gif -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From davej at suse.de Tue Mar 5 11:10:41 2002 From: davej at suse.de (Dave Jones) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Do you like monkeys? In-Reply-To: <20020305134808.N22450-100000@home.samurai.com>; from opus@penguins.ca on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:48:43PM -0500 References: <20020305134808.N22450-100000@home.samurai.com> Message-ID: <20020305201041.A4492@suse.de> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:48:43PM -0500, Chuck Daminato wrote: > If this is a duplicate, deal with it... Searched the web for I like monkeys. Results 1 - 10 of about 375,000. I guess you could say its a duplicate. Welcome to several years ago. > I like monkeys. Who doesn't ? http://www.joel.co.uk/mp3/20020112_i_like_monkeys.mp3 -- | Dave Jones. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk | SuSE Labs From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Tue Mar 5 11:12:04 2002 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cats and allergies! In-Reply-To: <20020305110622.C10537@zgp.org> References: <20020305100902.A10161@zgp.org> <20020305183154.GO4819@zork.net> <20020305110622.C10537@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020305191203.GF504@ummagumma> * Don Marti (dmarti@zgp.org) wrote: > begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:31:55AM -0800: > > > [*] Cover mattresses and cushions with zippered, plastic casings to > > cut down on allergen build-up. > > And give each and every visitor to your home a sweaty ass. Yeah it sucks when people do that. I have a huge pile of sweaty asses here I just don't know what to do with. Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source/UNIX consultant | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ `-------------------------------------------------------' From bryanf at samurai.com Tue Mar 5 11:35:41 2002 From: bryanf at samurai.com (Bryan Fullerton) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Do you like monkeys? In-Reply-To: <20020305134808.N22450-100000@home.samurai.com> References: <20020305134808.N22450-100000@home.samurai.com> Message-ID: <20020305193541.GP265@samurai.com> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:48:43PM -0500, Chuck Daminato wrote: > If this is a duplicate, deal with it... > > I like monkeys. If you were FEH, you'd already know this story. http://feh.net/feh-guide/stories/monkey.html Bryan -- Bryan Fullerton http://bryanfullerton.com/ Core Competence uunet.ca!gts!cspace!bryanf Samurai Consulting Powered by Boredom From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Tue Mar 5 11:34:19 2002 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Do you like monkeys? In-Reply-To: <20020305185824.GR4819@zork.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Chuck Daminato quotation: > > Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals. I like monkeys. > > Ahhhr! It's drivin' me nuts! and turning them orange! -- "you're behind the wheel, tonight" -- Ben Franklin From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 11:54:19 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Do you like monkeys? In-Reply-To: <20020305193541.GP265@samurai.com> References: <20020305134808.N22450-100000@home.samurai.com> <20020305193541.GP265@samurai.com> Message-ID: <20020305195419.GS4819@zork.net> begin Bryan Fullerton quotation: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:48:43PM -0500, Chuck Daminato wrote: > > If this is a duplicate, deal with it... > > > > I like monkeys. > > If you were FEH, you'd already know this story. > > http://feh.net/feh-guide/stories/monkey.html And you might have caught it the umpteen times it was posted to this list. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From leklund at tastytronic.net Tue Mar 5 11:55:59 2002 From: leklund at tastytronic.net (Lukas Eklund) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] exploder exploits Message-ID: <20020305145558.D27883@tastytronic.net> Execute arbitrary commands in IE and OE without ActiveX or Active Scripting. This is sure to generate some more crackmonkey fanmail! http://security.greymagic.com/adv/gm001-ie/ and http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24274.html -- lukas | Self-Evident, adj. Evident to one's self and to nobody else. eklund | -- Ambrose Bierce +++ tastytronic.net -- SORDID SPEAKERS IN THE NEWSPEAK PARADIGM! +++ From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org Tue Mar 5 11:58:06 2002 From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] oh yeah In-Reply-To: <20020302002348.GQ6775@zork.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER43 http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#QUESTION45 it doesn't say mutt... -- "p1ne r3wlzzzzzz" -- Ben Franklin From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 12:05:05 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] exploder exploits In-Reply-To: <20020305145558.D27883@tastytronic.net> References: <20020305145558.D27883@tastytronic.net> Message-ID: <20020305200505.GT4819@zork.net> begin Lukas Eklund quotation: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24274.html ^^^ -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 12:07:16 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] oh yeah In-Reply-To: References: <20020302002348.GQ6775@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020305200716.GU4819@zork.net> begin #2 of Berkeley quotation: > http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#QUESTION45 > > it doesn't say mutt... You've got clouds in your coffee, boy. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From poop at crapmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 12:21:09 2002 From: poop at crapmonkey.org (poop@crapmonkey.org) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] free Symbolics LispMs, the wire-wrap kind. In-Reply-To: (Miles Nordin's message of "04 Mar 2002 13:37:17 -0500") References: Message-ID: * Miles Nordin : > just hope they have the black tactile keyboards, and not the mushy > grey keyboards. They probably come with mechanical mice. literal > wiper-brush-and-commutator mechanical mice. And 16-bit audio, of > course. And ``ZMacs''. Too bad they're the size of a small fridge and weigh something like 150 kgs. Who wants to carry one of them from Germany for me? -- poopmastah From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 5 12:28:10 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] R. Crumb does Philip K Dick Message-ID: <20020305202810.GV4819@zork.net> http://www.philipkdick.com/weirdo/weirdo1.htm Amazing! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Mar 5 12:48:28 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Where are they now: The OSM Group Message-ID: <20020305204828.GA21139@linuxmafia.com> http://www.osm.no/ http://osm7.cs.byu.edu/Mission.html And here's Todd Andersen, Himself, the man solely responsible for the term "open source"! http://www.coloradofishing.net/ft_taylor3.htm From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 13:05:38 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Where are they now: The OSM Group In-Reply-To: <20020305204828.GA21139@linuxmafia.com> References: <20020305204828.GA21139@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20020305210538.GW4819@zork.net> begin Rick Moen Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > http://www.osm.no/ > http://osm7.cs.byu.edu/Mission.html > > And here's Todd Andersen, Himself, the man solely responsible for the > term "open source"! http://www.coloradofishing.net/ft_taylor3.htm Registrant: OSM Group, LLC 2243 chestnut San Francisco, CA 94123 US Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com) Domain Name: OSMGROUP.COM Created on: 11-FEB-98 Expires on: 10-FEB-04 Last Updated on: 09-FEB-01 Administrative Contact: Andersen, Todd tcg@slip.net OSM Group, Inc. 2243 chestnut San Francisco, CA 94123 US 415-771-9509 Technical Contact: Master, Domain domain@slip.net Web Hosting domain master 404 Bryant Street San Francisco, CA 94107 US 415-536-6149 Domain servers in listed order: DNS2.EARTHLINK.NET DNS3.EARTHLINK.NET -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 5 13:30:50 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] THE FLOATING HEAD! Message-ID: <20020305213049.GX4819@zork.net> http://www.movealong.org/sethsuit-floating.jpg Gaaaah! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From erin at dasbistro.com Tue Mar 5 14:03:18 2002 From: erin at dasbistro.com (Erin Quinlan) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> References: <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304181840.GW4819@zork.net> <20020304182357.GE4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304182717.GX4819@zork.net> <20020304183812.GF4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304184828.GA4819@zork.net> <20020304190409.GA18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304191333.GA9191@pug.chroot.net> <20020304192220.GB18199@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020304193153.GB4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020305220318.GA1300@dasbistro.com> On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:31:53AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Justin quotation: > > Typical. "Your mail client is completely ignorant of lists, fix it." > > "No, you fix your client, which can actually deal with things > > properly." > > > > Why don't you get a real MUA? > > There are two mechanisms for posting that retain geek cachet > while not using a "real MUA": > > 1: mailx > 2: telnet to port 25 > You forgot netcat -- Erin Quinlan http://www.dasbistro.com/~erin #!/bin/sh echo "-l -p 113 -e $0"|nc &>/dev/null & while read x ; do echo "$x : USERID : UNIX : USER-$[${x/,/+}]";done #identd From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 5 14:12:18 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Brazil is in the future Message-ID: <20020305221218.GY4819@zork.net> They even have jetpacks: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020211/170/13b7b.html -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 5 19:18:00 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] it buuuurns! Message-ID: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> http://www.kimintl.com/mr_t-be_somebody_or_be_somebodys_fool.avi It works with xine, so don't lemme hear none of yo' jibbajabba! It's so painful. I think that Zen and Stephane are probably the only two people on here who have the stamina for such a thing. I dare each and every one of you to make it through the thing without hitting fast forward, dimming the sound, or trying to therwise ignore it. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From neale at woozle.org Tue Mar 5 20:19:40 2002 From: neale at woozle.org (the Troll under the Belltown Bridge) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] it buuuurns! In-Reply-To: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> References: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> Message-ID: So then, Nick Moffitt is all like: > http://www.kimintl.com/mr_t-be_somebody_or_be_somebodys_fool.avi FRUSTRATION My wife claims that a few, if not most, of those kids were in the TV show "Kids Incorporated". It must have been on cable, and filmed in a magical land where unopened cans of beer grew out of garbage cans. Be somebody! FRUSTRATION From elharaty at zork.net Tue Mar 5 20:27:40 2002 From: elharaty at zork.net (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] it buuuurns! In-Reply-To: References: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020306042740.GA29425@zork.net> begin the Troll under the Belltown Bridge quotation: > show "Kids Incorporated". It must have been on cable, and filmed in a > magical land where unopened cans of beer grew out of garbage cans. > Actually, I remember seeing "kids incorporated!" on PBS. It even had the Love Hewwitt who's all the rage with teenage boys nowadays. -- Emad El-Haraty E / If you can't beat them, M\/ arrange to have them beaten. A\/ D From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 20:38:19 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] it buuuurns! In-Reply-To: <20020306042740.GA29425@zork.net> References: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> <20020306042740.GA29425@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020306043819.GC4819@zork.net> begin Emad El-Haraty quotation: > begin the Troll under the Belltown Bridge quotation: > > show "Kids Incorporated". It must have been on cable, and filmed > > in a magical land where unopened cans of beer grew out of garbage > > cans. > > Actually, I remember seeing "kids incorporated!" on PBS. It even had > the Love Hewwitt who's all the rage with teenage boys nowadays. YEah, I knew I recognized those kids! It was a horrible show! It was a bunch of singing kids at an old vaudeville hall that they had turned into a daytime nightclub! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 20:38:38 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] it buuuurns! In-Reply-To: References: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020306043838.GD4819@zork.net> begin the Troll under the Belltown Bridge quotation: > So then, Nick Moffitt is all like: > > http://www.kimintl.com/mr_t-be_somebody_or_be_somebodys_fool.avi > > FRUSTRATION Man. I need a screenshot of that. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 22:51:29 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] it buuuurns! In-Reply-To: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> References: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020306065129.GE4819@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://www.kimintl.com/mr_t-be_somebody_or_be_somebodys_fool.avi http://us.imdb.com/Title?0086944 9.2/10 stars!! Also, be sure to get the following packages: libavifile0.6 libxine xine-gui -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 22:55:39 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] it buuuurns! In-Reply-To: <20020306065129.GE4819@zork.net> References: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> <20020306065129.GE4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020306065539.GF4819@zork.net> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > http://us.imdb.com/Title?0086944 Jesux! Bobby Brown! how about ICE F'in' T did the vocal arangements (@CrackMonkey) nnnooo read the credits again at the end its a far cry from "cop killah" -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 5 23:00:57 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] it buuuurns! In-Reply-To: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> References: <20020306031759.GA4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020306070057.GG4819@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://www.kimintl.com/mr_t-be_somebody_or_be_somebodys_fool.avi http://www.seanbaby.com/stupid/mrt.htm > It's a new technique of self-motivation. He doesn't teach you how to > organize your planner or let the system work for you. Mr. T makes it > very clear during the opening song that if you don't start feeling > good about yourself, he is going to kick your ass. He's serious > about it. For your own safety, you better get happy. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 5 23:05:48 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you Maciej for thinking about all of us stoners when designing SCWM. Message-ID: <20020306070547.GH4819@zork.net> http://ratpoison.sourceforge.net/inspiration.html > That's because your not using the Scheme Configurable Window > Manager. I found that having the proper WM while toking is > extremely important. You need one that absolutely minimizes use of > the rodent, and with scwm's synthetic events, awesome key binding > supports and scripting, I have a setup which allows me to do > everything without pushing about the cursed rolly thing. Thank you > Maciej for thinking about all of us stoners when designing SCWM -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jdub at perkypants.org Tue Mar 5 23:28:55 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] China Attacks Austria's Western Province Message-ID: <20020306072855.GP28082@perkypants.org> '"Once one starts, they all just go. I just ran out the door and hid behind the house. When we were running they were just whizzing past," he said.' http://smh.com.au/news/0203/06/national/national107.html - Jeff -- "Trying to get a PC to analyse one of the most abstract forms of language - the poem - is like trying to drill for oil with a banana." - The Register From ron at vnetworx.net Wed Mar 6 04:03:28 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (The Subjugator of Port Jefferson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015416209.2289.83145.camel@amory> On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 00:05, Nick Moffitt wrote: > We don't speak Ukrainian here. > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > kagemusha@gmx.co.uk has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. Idi nahuy s moego lista! -- Support the GTFOML Translation Project! From nick at zork.net Wed Mar 6 08:32:20 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020306163220.GA23416@zork.net> Die. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- jeff@tht.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From neale at woozle.org Wed Mar 6 08:57:37 2002 From: neale at woozle.org (the Troll under the Belltown Bridge) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] China Attacks Austria's Western Province In-Reply-To: <20020306072855.GP28082@perkypants.org> References: <20020306072855.GP28082@perkypants.org> Message-ID: So then, Jeff Waugh is all like: > http://smh.com.au/news/0203/06/national/national107.html Two questions: The DMPR said Cardile Fireworks was Western Australia's only fully-licensed fireworks factory, and operated by "an experienced and respected bloke". Isn't calling someone a "bloke" a rather unofficial manner of speaking? Kalamunda shire president Elizabeth Taylor said the factory was approved by the shire in November 1985 on the condition it was used for the storage of up to 600kg of fireworks. Is this the same Liz Taylor that markets those horrid stench-masking products in the US? From nick at zork.net Wed Mar 6 10:57:23 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020306185723.GB23416@zork.net> Get the fuck off my list. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- corey@tsunamicreek.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From wfrancis at incyte.com Wed Mar 6 11:19:51 2002 From: wfrancis at incyte.com (Will Francis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what's wrong with this picture? Message-ID: <200203061919.g26JJpo20395@vertigo.incyte.com> Keep staring at it until you figure it out. http://www.stonetable.org/files/whatswrong.swf From mdillon at standmed.com Wed Mar 6 11:38:15 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: <200203061919.g26JJpo20395@vertigo.incyte.com> References: <200203061919.g26JJpo20395@vertigo.incyte.com> Message-ID: <20020306193814.GA8034@lxbox3.embody.org> begin Will Francis quotation: > Keep staring at it until you figure it out. > > http://www.stonetable.org/files/whatswrong.swf Cue puzzle piece quip. -md From mdillon at standmed.com Wed Mar 6 11:40:31 2002 From: mdillon at standmed.com (mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020306185723.GB23416@zork.net> References: <20020306185723.GB23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020306194031.GB8034@lxbox3.embody.org> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > Get the fuck off my list. > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > corey@tsunamicreek.com has been successfully subscribed to > CrackMonkey. Hey. DUUDE. Ya know I heard the waves at Tsunami Creek are KILLER, BRA! -md -- I'd rather be surfing at Tsunami Creek during a KILLER STORM!!!!! From nick at zork.net Wed Mar 6 11:43:02 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [dmarti@zgp.org: [linux-elitists] Re: Local Mountain View. 802.11b coffeehouse.] Message-ID: <20020306194302.GC23416@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Don Marti ----- begin Don Marti quotation of Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:11:47PM -0700: More reasons to love Dana St. Roasting Co.: http://live.com/danastreet/ Does the network support IPv6, as well as IPv4? Yes. The network has full IPv6 connectivity (using "6to4"), so if you have an IPv6 client that implements "Neighbor Discovery" (the IPv6 equivalent to DHCP), you will be able to get an address. In fact, the wireless network has been assigned a /64 subnet, which is enough IPv6 address space to give each square micron of the coffeee shop 100,000 addresses! -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. _______________________________________________ linux-elitists http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 6 11:49:04 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] what's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: <20020306193814.GA8034@lxbox3.embody.org> References: <200203061919.g26JJpo20395@vertigo.incyte.com> <20020306193814.GA8034@lxbox3.embody.org> Message-ID: <20020306194904.GD23416@zork.net> begin mike dillon, Comrade Emperor of Berkeley quotation: > Cue puzzle piece quip. No, actually. I did the swf thing, used kflash player. It's just like those animated GIFs that have the ghost walking through the room. The sound comes out as static in kflash, though. Was it supposed to be a scream? -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Mar 6 11:19:11 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] It's not easy to be a Swede nowadays In-Reply-To: <20020303211226.GA17449@borgship.net> (Joakim Andersson's message of "Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:12:26 +0200") References: <20020303211226.GA17449@borgship.net> Message-ID: <87k7spo66o.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "JA" == Joakim Andersson writes: JA> He blushed and said, "I'm sorry but my dad plays hockey for JA> Team Sweden, and I was just too embarrassed to say so." Hahaha! Swedish hockey jokes always knock me out. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Mar 6 11:26:16 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ] Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin's message of "Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:38:06 -0600") References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <87elixo5uv.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "OoMPotDaSoW" == Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin writes: OoMPotDaSoW> [gar gar gar] Congratulations on your new territorial conquest. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Mar 6 11:30:41 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's message of "Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:49:48 -0800") References: <20020305050537.GG4819@zork.net> <200203050544.g255irog031800@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <20020305054948.GI4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <87adtlo5ni.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MMaPRoSF" == Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: MMaPRoSF> Dammit! It's not "The" Ukraine any more! It's just MMaPRoSF> Ukrainia! Give the bastards some self-determination for MMaPRoSF> once! Go back to the Pedestria if you don't like it. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Mar 6 15:10:21 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ]Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <87elixo5uv.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> <87elixo5uv.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020306231021.GE3966@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Mr. Bad quotation: > >>>>> "OoMPotDaSoW" == Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin writes: > > OoMPotDaSoW> [gar gar gar] > > Congratulations on your new territorial conquest. Well, I mostly took it over so I could get the CEO of Brooklyn's kids to use as hostages. He still hasn't responded to my demands, though. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8hqHbjLHcIq3dHxYRAr/PAKChYi2/pKc0BnKCxFd6xgKdUgTVHQCgka+r zkMJY87NkNM1pScW6FBNqqk= =zgI6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Mar 6 17:01:05 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix Message-ID: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> Search Google for unix and see what's the number 1 result. Hint: it's not Unix. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From neale at woozle.org Wed Mar 6 17:18:19 2002 From: neale at woozle.org (the Troll under the Belltown Bridge) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? Message-ID: Dear Friend Lingu, You have been selected as a finalist! Have you received your check or money order for FREE??? Money making opt-in direct email online business opportunities to increase traffic to your mass email marketing of social security numbers allow you to trace anyone by social security number and addresses on cd. This is a strong buy sock alert! Investing in micro-cap securities is highly speculative, but credit card orders sent to your billing address by Cyber FirePower could INCREASE SALES of FREE CONSULTATION! OPPORTUNITY FOR A PURE PROFIT STOCK PICK! BRAND NEW Pager FREE WITH VIAGRA LASER PRINTER SUPPLIES! AMAZING GUARANTEE OF PROFITS--NO QUESTIONS ASKED! FULL REFUND, 100% FREE, 100% GUARANTEED! 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This one-time mailing message sent in compliance with: * Paragraph 1a2bC. of S. 1618, * Bill 1618 TITLE III * S. 1618-SECTION 301 * SECTION 301 * EU email directive 200.32.CE This ad is produced and sent out by: * StealthLaunch PopLaunch * http://0004567.8.9.10/?q=http://%20=gar@gar.gar Another Internet Ad campaign produced by: * International Executive Guild transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate Pro, and filtered by WorldRemove, Auto Email Removal. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 6 17:33:03 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > Search Google for > > unix > > and see what's the number 1 result. > > Hint: it's not Unix. GENIUS! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 6 17:34:28 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: *****SPAM***** [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020307013428.GI23416@zork.net> begin the Troll under the Belltown Bridge quotation: > Dear Friend Lingu, Jesux. You manage dto get a net score of 48 over here. That's even with the -100 auto-whitelisting! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From pawal at blipp.com Wed Mar 6 17:38:50 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307013850.GB5329@vic20.blipp.com> On Wed, 06 Mar 2002, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > Hint: it's not Unix. > > GENIUS! It should be FELIX: http://www.felix.at/ -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From aaronl at vitelus.com Wed Mar 6 17:45:13 2002 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Ignoring Time Cube is evil Message-ID: <20020307014513.GA3684@vitelus.com> http://www.timecube.com > Every academic professor and teacher ignorant of the Time Cube > Principle, is stupid, evil and unworthy of life on Earth, for they > lead humanity down a path ending with cannibalism. Don't accept > cubeless education that leads to apocalyptic doom, as it has led all > past civilizations. From nick at zork.net Wed Mar 6 17:53:17 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020307015317.GJ23416@zork.net> greeeat, plus-addressing.. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- snuffy+cm@thewatch.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Mar 6 17:55:04 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307015504.GS14537@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco (monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org): > GENIUS! http://www.genius-kye.com/ From inkblot at movealong.org Wed Mar 6 18:10:39 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> Quoting the Troll under the Belltown Bridge: > Dear Friend Lingu, > [snipped 58 lines of steaming poo] Any intelligent person has their mailing list sorting recipes ahead of their SpamAssassin recipe. Nice try, though. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- From jdub at perkypants.org Wed Mar 6 18:19:10 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] China Attacks Austria's Western Province In-Reply-To: References: <20020306072855.GP28082@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020307021910.GD1686@perkypants.org> > Isn't calling someone a "bloke" a rather unofficial manner of speaking? In cosmopolitan Sydney, perhaps. In Western Australia? Hell no. Mate. - Jeff -- What did the sausage say to the tomato at breakfast? "There's not mushroom this morning, is there?" From claviola at alternex.com.br Wed Mar 6 18:20:35 2002 From: claviola at alternex.com.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307015504.GS14537@linuxmafia.com> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <20020307015504.GS14537@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20020307022035.GA2455@alternex.com.br> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:55:04PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco (monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org): > > > GENIUS! > > http://www.genius-kye.com/ Funny that you mentioned it... This is one of the few companies of the world selling things you can produce yourself, in the toilet. -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From claviola at alternex.com.br Wed Mar 6 18:23:03 2002 From: claviola at alternex.com.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020307022303.GB2455@alternex.com.br> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:01:05PM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > Search Google for > > unix > > and see what's the number 1 result. And who is this Stephen Turner guy that is #3 on a search for UNIX? Ok, I see he wrote analog, and other stuff. But #3 on a search for UNIX, on Google? -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From ron at vnetworx.net Wed Mar 6 18:24:01 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Ron Guerin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [f.v.reed@worldnet.att.net: [FredOnEverything ]Harvard, Even] In-Reply-To: <20020306231021.GE3966@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020304171141.GE1856@pug.chroot.net> <20020304173441.GA23184@eber.embody.org> <20020304174433.GA4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304175406.GU4819@zork.net> <20020304181223.GC4799@pug.chroot.net> <20020304203805.GA761@8ball.wox.org> <87elixo5uv.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020306231021.GE3966@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <1015467842.1493.97055.camel@amory> On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 18:10, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > Well, I mostly took it over so I could get the CEO of Brooklyn's kids > to use as hostages. He still hasn't responded to my demands, though. In the CEO's dominion, Your Demands have not been delivered. As part of Brooklyn's spam control demands with ! in the subject, and other common spam like stuff, is rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend demands without ! in the subject. Thanks -- This sig is rejected! It is not personal. From joey at kitenet.net Wed Mar 6 18:39:49 2002 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [SPAM: 09.30] Re: *****SPAM***** [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307013428.GI23416@zork.net> References: <20020307013428.GI23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307023949.GB16611@kitenet.net> Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Jesux. You manage dto get a net score of 48 over here. > That's even with the -100 auto-whitelisting! 0 Mar 06 the Troll under [SPAM: 213.50] [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this 213.5. Flabbergasting. I made this sig some time ago, before there _was_ autowhitelisting, and so wasn't really able to use it until recently. -- THIS IS NOT SPAMASSASSIN BAIT! AMAZING GUARANTEE OR FULL REFUND Dear Friend: Use this live, wild and spunky signature to opt-in to the spamassassin mass email blocker. Call now: 1-800-STOP-SPAM or visit http://123.456.789.10/remove?font=3E From random at nandgate.com Wed Mar 6 18:47:36 2002 From: random at nandgate.com (The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Taking back the state of Wisconsin Message-ID: <1015469256.2245.17.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> In the name of 4 million people and, more importantly, several hundred thousand cows, I take back Wisconsin. You cannot have it! It is ours. We will not be ruled by someone who is obviously infatuated with ... Minnesota! The cows are frightened by this subjugation and are contemplating a revolt. Step down before we tip a couple hundred cows on you! Random From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Mar 6 19:07:14 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Taking back the state of Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <1015469256.2245.17.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> References: <1015469256.2245.17.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> Message-ID: <20020307030714.GI3966@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin quotation: > In the name of 4 million people and, more importantly, several hundred > thousand cows, I take back Wisconsin. > > You cannot have it! It is ours. We will not be ruled by someone who is > obviously infatuated with ... Minnesota! The cows are frightened by this > subjugation and are contemplating a revolt. > > Step down before we tip a couple hundred cows on you! It's too late, I've already replaced all of the bubblers with drinking fountains, the soda with pop, and the time machines with ATMs! - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8htlgjLHcIq3dHxYRAoLBAKCNytkZjl5IrSNi7az+hhRRQz+NqwCg88Zh CoGaDcxMTbjo9yCrNhniBt4= =92cM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Mar 6 18:39:22 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's message of "Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:33:03 -0800") References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MMaPRoSF" == Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: MMaPRoSF> GENIUS! Man, The Macarthur Foundation already said that. ~Mr. Bad P.S. I had actually forgotten who had Unix. I made a guess, and I was right. It's kind of like "Where's Waldo," except Waldo is Unix. P.P.S. Is there still a trademark on Unix? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Mar 6 18:42:27 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: (the Troll under the Belltown Bridge's message of "06 Mar 2002 17:18:19 -0800") References: Message-ID: <87vgc93xpo.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Holy crap! You dumb bastard! You _do_ realize that this stuff all gets reported to razor, right? I dunno a lot about razor, but I guess this probably not good for crackmonkey-request. You're a dumb boob. Spam assassin r0X0rs, and you suck. ~Mr. Bad ---8<--- X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=141.6 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,DEAR_FRIEND,DEAR_SOMEBODY,FREE_CONSULTATION,ADDRESSES_ON_CD,DIRECT_EMAIL,INCREASE_SALES,ASKS_BILLING_ADDRESS,MASS_EMAIL,STRONG_BUY,WANTS_CREDIT_CARD,TRACE_BY_SSN,ONLINE_BIZ_OPS,MONEY_MAKING,MICRO_CAP_WARNING,OPT_IN,SOCIAL_SEC_NUMBER,CHECK_OR_MONEY_ORDER,YOU_HAVE_BEEN_SELECTED,FOR_FREE,EMAIL_MARKETING,CASHCASHCASH,NO_QS_ASKED,PURE_PROFIT,FREE_PRIORITY_MAIL,BILLION_DOLLARS,FULL_REFUND,LIMITED_TIME_ONLY,VIAGRA,GUARANTEE,ONE_HUNDRED_PC_FREE,STOCK_PICK,PROFITS,CALL_NOW,CALL_1_800,OPPORTUNITY,LASER_PRINTER,ONE_HUNDRED_PC_GUAR,AMAZING,BRAND_NEW_PAGER,BUGGY_CGI,BUGGY_CGI_PT,BUGGY_CGI_DE,BUGGY_CGI_DE_3,BUGGY_CGI_ES,BUGGY_CGI_ES_2,REPLY_REMOVE_SUBJECT,REMOVE_SUBJ,SUBJ_REMOVE,REMOVE_IN_QUOTES,EXCUSE_1,EXCUSE_2,EXCUSE_3,EXCUSE_4,EXCUSE_6,EXCUSE_8,EXCUSE_9,SECTION_301,S_1618,EU_200_32_CE,PARA_A_2_C_OF_1618,BILL_1618,SENT_IN_COMPLIANCE,ONE_TIME_MAILING,PRODUCED_AND_SENT_OUT,INTL_EXEC_GUILD,ANOTHER_NET_AD,COMMUNIGATE,AUTO_EMAIL_REMOVAL,FILTERED_BY_WORLDREMOVE,MAILTO_WITH_SUBJ,LINE_OF_YELLING,HTTP_NUMBER_WORD,PGP_SIGNATURE,HTML_WITH_BGCOLOR,SLIGHTLY_UNSAFE_JAVASCRIPT,REALLY_UNSAFE_JAVASCRIPT,JAVASCRIPT,SPAM_FORM_RETURN,SPAM_FORM,HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST,HTTP_WITH_EMAIL_IN_URL,HTTP_USERNAME_USED,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,LONG_NUMERIC_HTTP_ADDR,NUMERIC_HTTP_ADDR version=2.01 X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.01 (devel $Id: SpamAssassin.pm,v 1.61 2002/01/25 04:41:02 jmason Exp $) X-Spam-Report: 141.6 hits, 5 required; * 1.2 -- From: does not include a real name * 0.9 -- BODY: How dear can you be if you don't know my name? * 1.0 -- BODY: Contains 'Dear Somebody' * 2.3 -- BODY: Offers a free consultation * 1.0 -- BODY: Only thing addresses on CD are useful for is SPAM * 1.6 -- BODY: Talks about direct email * 0.9 -- BODY: Offers increased sales * 1.0 -- BODY: Asks for a billing address * 0.0 -- BODY: Talks about mass email * 4.8 -- BODY: Tells you about a strong buy * 1.3 -- BODY: Asks for credit card details * 1.3 -- BODY: Talks about tracing by SSN * 1.0 -- BODY: Wants you to do business online * 0.9 -- BODY: Discusses money making * 1.0 -- BODY: SEC-mandated penny-stock warning -- thanks SEC * 1.2 -- BODY: Talks about opting in * 3.7 -- BODY: Talks about social security numbers * 1.6 -- BODY: Talk about a check or money order * 1.4 -- BODY: "You have been selected as a finalist", sure * 1.8 -- BODY: No such thing as a free lunch * 1.7 -- BODY: Talks about email marketing * 1.6 -- BODY: Contains at least 3 dollar signs in a row * 3.3 -- BODY: Doesn't ask any questions * 2.7 -- BODY: Profit is dirty, not pure * 1.4 -- BODY: There's no such thing as a free shipping * 0.9 -- BODY: Talks about lots of money * 1.6 -- BODY: Offers a full refund * 1.3 -- BODY: Offers a limited time offer * 1.0 -- BODY: Plugs Viagra * 1.3 -- BODY: Contains word 'guarantee' in all-caps * 1.3 -- BODY: No such thing as a free lunch * 1.0 -- BODY: Offers a stock pick * 0.7 -- BODY: Contains word 'profits' in all-caps * 1.0 -- BODY: Urges you to call now * 1.9 -- BODY: Contains a 1-800- number * 2.9 -- BODY: Gives information about an opportunity * 3.9 -- BODY: Discusses laser printer supplies * 1.4 -- BODY: One hundred percent guaranteed * 3.5 -- BODY: Contains word 'AMAZING' * 4.9 -- BODY: No such thing as a free lunch * 4.0 -- BODY: Broken CGI script message * 4.0 -- BODY: Broken Portuguese CGI script message * 4.0 -- BODY: Broken German CGI script message * 4.0 -- BODY: Broken German CGI script message (3) * 1.0 -- BODY: Broken Spanish CGI script message * 1.0 -- BODY: Broken Spanish CGI script message (2) * 1.0 -- BODY: List removal information * 1.0 -- BODY: List removal information * 0.0 -- BODY: List removal information * 0.0 -- BODY: List removal information * 1.0 -- BODY: Gives a lame excuse about why you were sent this SPAM * 1.5 -- BODY: Claims you actually asked for this SPAM * 1.0 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list * 1.9 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list * 1.0 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list * 1.3 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list * 3.2 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list * 1.2 -- BODY: Claims compliance with SPAM regulations * 3.5 -- BODY: Claims compliance with senate bill 1618 * 1.0 -- BODY: Claims compliance with SPAM regulations * 3.0 -- BODY: Claims compliance with senate bill 1618 * 1.1 -- BODY: Claims compliance with senate bill 1618 * 1.3 -- BODY: Claims compliance with SPAM regulations * 0.0 -- BODY: 'one time mailing' doesn't mean it isn't spam * 1.3 -- BODY: Tells you it's an ad * 1.6 -- BODY: Well known SPAM senders * 1.0 -- BODY: Tells you it's an ad * 5.0 -- BODY: Communigate is SPAM software * 1.4 -- BODY: Claims auto-email removal * 1.0 -- BODY: Claims to listen to some removal request list * 1.3 -- BODY: Includes a link to send a mail with a subject * 0.7 -- BODY: A WHOLE LINE OF YELLING DETECTED * 1.0 -- BODY: URL contains spamhaus signature: numbered servers * -5.0 -- BODY: Contains a PGP-signed message * 1.2 -- BODY: HTML mail with non-white background * 1.0 -- BODY: JavaScript code which can easily be executed * 1.3 -- BODY: Auto-executing JavaScript code * 0.0 -- BODY: JavaScript code * 1.0 -- BODY: Form for checking email address * 3.2 -- BODY: Form for changing email address * 4.0 -- BODY: Uses %-escapes inside a URL's hostname * 0.8 -- BODY: 'remove' URL contains an email address * 2.6 -- BODY: Uses a username in a URL * 1.0 -- BODY: Uses a dotted-decimal IP address in URL * 1.0 -- BODY: Uses a long numeric IP address in URL * 3.7 -- BODY: Uses a numeric IP address in URL ---8<--- -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Mar 6 18:55:36 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Elisp Subliminal Messages Message-ID: <87r8mx3x3r.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Holy crappo! Where the hell did this come from? ---8<--- Fetching headers for nnfolder+archive:sent...done Suppressing duplicates...done Scoring...done Generating summary...done Love Big Brother Checking new news... ---8<--- Who the hell is flashing "Love Big Brother" in my minibuffer, fer Jeebus's sake? Obviously, BBDB is a prime suspect, but a cursory review shows no code to do this evil deed. Is this the first time I've ever noticed it, or is this a new thing? Fuck, I feel like Rowdy Roddy Piper with the Hoffman Glasses on! How many other things has Emacs been flashing at me over the years?! Crap! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From aaronl at vitelus.com Wed Mar 6 19:19:04 2002 From: aaronl at vitelus.com (Aaron Lehmann) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020222051721.GV17584@zork.net> References: <20020222051721.GV17584@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307031904.GA3953@vitelus.com> On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 09:17:21PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > JTAN Switches to OpenBSD -- read the interview Rumor is djb switched to FreeBSD. He demands compatibility! From random at nandgate.com Wed Mar 6 19:32:07 2002 From: random at nandgate.com (The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Taking back the state of Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <20020307030714.GI3966@8ball.wox.org> References: <1015469256.2245.17.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <20020307030714.GI3966@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <1015471927.2245.26.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 21:07, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > commence The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin quotation: > > In the name of 4 million people and, more importantly, several hundred > > thousand cows, I take back Wisconsin. > > > > Step down before we tip a couple hundred cows on you! > > It's too late, I've already replaced all of the bubblers with drinking > fountains, the soda with pop, and the time machines with ATMs! Look, we gave up Joel to do MST3K and you repay us by ... hmmm... okay, maybe I shouldn't have brought that up. We gave you that fat comedian.. not Drew Carey, the other one. He played Tommy Boy. We gave him to you and you repay us by.. hmmm.. Time out. Gotta think of something valuable we gave to the rest of the country.... From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Mar 6 19:48:10 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Taking back the state of Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <1015471927.2245.26.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> References: <1015469256.2245.17.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <20020307030714.GI3966@8ball.wox.org> <1015471927.2245.26.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> Message-ID: <20020307034810.GJ3966@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin quotation: > Time out. Gotta think of something valuable we gave to the rest of the > country.... When I think of Wisconsin, the first thing I think of is a billboard I saw driving through a while back: WISCONSIN: WE AIM TO CHEESE - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8huL4jLHcIq3dHxYRAvj1AJ9LskJ5Ed+IMBMSn42ojfWHyEwuBACg0aHc hpk28mKJTa5a2T1m/gVSGjM= =CG9y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joey at kitenet.net Wed Mar 6 20:04:14 2002 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FWD: Your Mail is being returned Message-ID: <20020307040413.GD21746@kitenet.net> So who razored this? ----- Forwarded message from Ruben I Safir ----- From: Ruben I Safir Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:40:01 -0500 To: joey@kitenet.net Subject: Your Mail is being returned X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=RAZOR_CHECK version=2.11 Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control messages with ! in the subject, and other common spam like stuff, is rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend without ! in the subject. Thanks Ruben ----- End forwarded message ----- -- see shy jo From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Mar 6 20:14:43 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FWD: Your Mail is being returned In-Reply-To: <20020307040413.GD21746@kitenet.net> References: <20020307040413.GD21746@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20020307041442.GQ23416@zork.net> begin Joey Hess quotation: > So who razored this? Me. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sam at dasbistro.com Wed Mar 6 23:10:41 2002 From: sam at dasbistro.com (Baron of Washoe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Do you like monkeys? In-Reply-To: References: <20020305185824.GR4819@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307071041.GB2717@dasbistro.com> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:34:19AM -0800, #2 of Berkeley wrote: > On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > > begin Chuck Daminato quotation: > > > Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals. I like monkeys. > > > > Ahhhr! It's drivin' me nuts! > > and turning them orange! > @sexyfun.net -- Sam Phillips http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam Das Bistro Heavy Industries Histogram Valley, Nevada From sneakums at zork.net Thu Mar 7 00:57:17 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> (Mr. Bad's message of "Wed, 06 Mar 2002 20:39:22 -0600") References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Mr. Bad quotation: > P.P.S. Is there still a trademark on Unix? > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > _______________________________________________ > CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks > http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey > -- "What good is respect without the moolah to back it up? Everywhere I go I see teachers driving Ferraris, research scientists drinking champagne. I tried to drink a Coke on the bus, and they took away my pass!" -- Emad El-Haraty From sneakums at zork.net Thu Mar 7 01:01:03 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago's message of "Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:10:39 -0600") References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> Message-ID: <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > Any intelligent person has their mailing list sorting recipes ahead > of their SpamAssassin recipe. Nice try, though. You're not on any Debian lists, then. -- "Windows NT is 'case-preserving', but not 'case-distinguishing'. Translation: it's a lot like ass." -- Eamon de Valera From sneakums at zork.net Thu Mar 7 01:03:13 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Thu, 07 Mar 2002 08:57:17 +0000") References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <6ug03cbvhq.fsf@zork.zork.net> Woops. Early-morning jitters. commence Sean Neakums quotation: > commence Mr. Bad quotation: > >> P.P.S. Is there still a trademark on Unix? I think so, but I forget who owns it. -- "Love Big Brother." -- Eamon de Valera From jdub at perkypants.org Thu Mar 7 03:08:05 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <6ug03cbvhq.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6ug03cbvhq.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307110805.GF1471@perkypants.org> > > commence Mr. Bad quotation: > > > >> P.P.S. Is there still a trademark on Unix? > > I think so, but I forget who owns it. Caldera, or the other C one. - Jeff -- "Funny, I have no trouble distinguishing my mobile phone from the others because it's in my _own fucking pocket_!" - Mobile Rage From jmorris at intercode.com.au Thu Mar 7 05:49:34 2002 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] It's time to surrender. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020307135636.GM1471@perkypants.org> > GOD SAVE NEW ZEALAND > > o > O"" "oo oo dOb > d0OOOOOOOOO OOO > dOOOOOOOOOO o OOOb > OOOb "OOOOOOOOOOo OOOOOO > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo o OOOOOOOb > o odOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOObo OOOOOOOO > OOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOObo > odOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb > oodOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb > OoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO o > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > o OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP" """OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP > 0OOOOOOOOOOOO "OOO^oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 > dOOOOOOP""""" O dO^0OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > """" oo""OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0O > OOOOOOO0OOOOOOOO > "OOOOOO^OOOOP > "" "OP > " o > OObooo > OOO0P > "OOP That doesn't look like New Zealand at all, you daft knob. Where are the ELVES? - Jeff -- I am Jack's smoking gun. From claviola at alternex.com.br Thu Mar 7 06:22:38 2002 From: claviola at alternex.com.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307142238.GA4518@alternex.com.br> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:01:03AM +0000, Sean Neakums wrote: > commence The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > > > Any intelligent person has their mailing list sorting recipes ahead > > of their SpamAssassin recipe. Nice try, though. > > You're not on any Debian lists, then. I'd like to second that comment. -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From claviola at alternex.com.br Thu Mar 7 06:23:39 2002 From: claviola at alternex.com.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307110805.GF1471@perkypants.org> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6ug03cbvhq.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307110805.GF1471@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020307142339.GB4518@alternex.com.br> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:08:05PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > commence Mr. Bad quotation: > > > > > >> P.P.S. Is there still a trademark on Unix? > > > > I think so, but I forget who owns it. > > Caldera, or the other C one. Conectiva? Doubtful... -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From justin-cm at soze.net Thu Mar 7 06:24:24 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307142424.GV18342@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-07 09:01 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Sean Neakums > commence The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > > > Any intelligent person has their mailing list sorting recipes ahead > > of their SpamAssassin recipe. Nice try, though. > > You're not on any Debian lists, then. What exactly is the problem with placing sorting recipes for idiotic lists after spam control, and keeping recipes for useful[0] lists before it? [0] Well, you know... so it goes. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From jdub at perkypants.org Thu Mar 7 06:31:15 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307142339.GB4518@alternex.com.br> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6ug03cbvhq.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307110805.GF1471@perkypants.org> <20020307142339.GB4518@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <20020307143115.GP1471@perkypants.org> > Conectiva? Doubtful... The *other* C one. - Jeff -- "I think we agnostics need a term for a holy war too. I feel all left out." - George Lebl From sneakums at zork.net Thu Mar 7 06:33:37 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307142424.GV18342@kobayashi.soze.net> (Justin's message of "Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:24:24 +0000") References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307142424.GV18342@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <6ud6ygqwfy.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Justin quotation: > begin quote 2002-03-07 09:01 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) > by Sean Neakums >> commence The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: >> > Any intelligent person has their mailing list sorting recipes ahead >> > of their SpamAssassin recipe. Nice try, though. >> You're not on any Debian lists, then. > > What exactly is the problem with placing sorting recipes for idiotic > lists after spam control, and keeping recipes for useful[0] lists > before it? You have to write a fresh recipe for every list you join? Ha ha. -- "Ah, the SCSL. The 'All your changes are belong to Sun' license". -- Eamon de Valera From sneakums at zork.net Thu Mar 7 06:35:09 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307143115.GP1471@perkypants.org> (Jeff Waugh's message of "Fri, 8 Mar 2002 01:31:15 +1100") References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6ug03cbvhq.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307110805.GF1471@perkypants.org> <20020307142339.GB4518@alternex.com.br> <20020307143115.GP1471@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <6u8z94qwde.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Jeff Waugh quotation: > >> Conectiva? Doubtful... > > The *other* C one. Didn't Commodore fold some years back? -- DIVORCED -- SEPARATED * SELL YOUR BAD * MEMORIES <= <= HERE /INSTANT/ /CA$H/ /PAYMENT/ From inkblot at movealong.org Thu Mar 7 06:32:41 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307142424.GV18342@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307142424.GV18342@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020307143241.GA20246@movealong.org> Quoting Justin: > begin quote 2002-03-07 09:01 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) > by Sean Neakums > > > commence The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > > > > > Any intelligent person has their mailing list sorting recipes ahead > > > of their SpamAssassin recipe. Nice try, though. > > > > You're not on any Debian lists, then. > > What exactly is the problem with placing sorting recipes for idiotic > lists after spam control, and keeping recipes for useful[0] lists > before it? Most notably, that you have a recipe per list in the first place. If I a list I subscribe to develops a spam problem, then I unsubscribe, content be damned. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From random at nandgate.com Thu Mar 7 06:46:02 2002 From: random at nandgate.com (The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Taking back the state of Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <20020307034810.GJ3966@8ball.wox.org> References: <1015469256.2245.17.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <20020307030714.GI3966@8ball.wox.org> <1015471927.2245.26.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <20020307034810.GJ3966@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <1015512362.2349.43.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 21:48, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > commence The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin quotation: > > Time out. Gotta think of something valuable we gave to the rest of the > > country.... > > When I think of Wisconsin, the first thing I think of is a billboard I > saw driving through a while back: > > WISCONSIN: WE AIM TO CHEESE Yes, come eat the cheese, oh Subjugator of Wisconsin. Taste the creamy goodness of our cheese... by the barrel. Cheese curds, string cheese, spreadable cheese, cheese, cheese, cheese! ( Once he's constipated as hell from all that cheese he'll be too busy to notice the rebellion ) RF From ron at vnetworx.net Thu Mar 7 06:45:13 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (The Subjugator of Port Jefferson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <6u8z94qwde.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6ug03cbvhq.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307110805.GF1471@perkypants.org> <20020307142339.GB4518@alternex.com.br> <20020307143115.GP1471@perkypants.org> <6u8z94qwde.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <1015512313.2289.110056.camel@amory> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 09:35, Sean Neakums wrote: > * SELL YOUR BAD * What's the going rate for a Mr. Bad these days? -- "Sell him? My Mr. Bad is like a member of the family!" -- Ben Franklin From ron at vnetworx.net Thu Mar 7 06:48:03 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (The Subjugator of Port Jefferson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307143241.GA20246@movealong.org> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307142424.GV18342@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020307143241.GA20246@movealong.org> Message-ID: <1015512483.1028.110096.camel@amory> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 09:32, The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago wrote: > If I a list I subscribe to develops a spam problem, then I unsubscribe, > content be damned. Or you could just spam it back, like they do in Brooklyn. -- "You're interfering with my free speech, you anti-spam nutcases!" From ron at vnetworx.net Thu Mar 7 06:52:09 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (The Subjugator of Port Jefferson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Taking back the state of Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <1015512362.2349.43.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> References: <1015469256.2245.17.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <20020307030714.GI3966@8ball.wox.org> <1015471927.2245.26.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <20020307034810.GJ3966@8ball.wox.org> <1015512362.2349.43.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> Message-ID: <1015512730.16377.110173.camel@amory> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 09:46, The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin wrote: > Yes, come eat the cheese, oh Subjugator of Wisconsin. Taste the creamy > goodness of our cheese... by the barrel. Cheese curds, string cheese, > spreadable cheese, cheese, cheese, cheese! > > ( Once he's constipated as hell from all that cheese he'll be too busy > to notice the rebellion ) We Subjugators watch each other's back. Just because Octal's stuck on the can doesn't mean there isn't a certified member of the Society of Subjugators watching the borders. -- "Come, find out why Port Jefferson was named Drowned Meadow!" From justin-cm at soze.net Thu Mar 7 06:54:03 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] It's time to surrender. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020307145403.GW18342@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-07 13:49 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by James Morris > http://www.adequacy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2002/2/25/115017/382 > > - James > -- > James Morris > > > > GOD SAVE NEW ZEALAND > > o > O"" "oo oo dOb > d0OOOOOOOOO OOO > dOOOOOOOOOO o OOOb > OOOb "OOOOOOOOOOo OOOOOO > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo o OOOOOOOb > o odOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOObo OOOOOOOO > OOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOObo > odOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb > oodOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb > OoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO o > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > o OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP" """OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP > 0OOOOOOOOOOOO "OOO^oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 > dOOOOOOP""""" O dO^0OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > """" oo""OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0O > OOOOOOO0OOOOOOOO > "OOOOOO^OOOOP > "" "OP > " o > OObooo > OOO0P > "OOP Ok, so we've got the boomerang. Where's the frisbee? -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From inkblot at movealong.org Thu Mar 7 06:54:06 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <1015512483.1028.110096.camel@amory> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <6uk7sobvlc.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307142424.GV18342@kobayashi.soze.net> <20020307143241.GA20246@movealong.org> <1015512483.1028.110096.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020307145406.GA21718@movealong.org> Quoting The Subjugator of Port Jefferson: > On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 09:32, The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke > of Chicago wrote: > > If I a list I subscribe to develops a spam problem, then I unsubscribe, > > content be damned. > > Or you could just spam it back, like they do in Brooklyn. > That's an excellent suggestion, but personally, I would only bounce it to the list administrator. Although, it wouldn't hurt (much) to bounce it in triplicate. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From random at nandgate.com Thu Mar 7 07:34:05 2002 From: random at nandgate.com (The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Taking back the state of Wisconsin In-Reply-To: <1015512730.16377.110173.camel@amory> References: <1015469256.2245.17.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <20020307030714.GI3966@8ball.wox.org> <1015471927.2245.26.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <20020307034810.GJ3966@8ball.wox.org> <1015512362.2349.43.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <1015512730.16377.110173.camel@amory> Message-ID: <1015515245.3594.64.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 08:52, The Subjugator of Port Jefferson wrote: > On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 09:46, The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in > Wisconsin wrote: > > Yes, come eat the cheese, oh Subjugator of Wisconsin. Taste the creamy > > goodness of our cheese... by the barrel. Cheese curds, string cheese, > > spreadable cheese, cheese, cheese, cheese! > > > > ( Once he's constipated as hell from all that cheese he'll be too busy > > to notice the rebellion ) > > We Subjugators watch each other's back. Just because Octal's stuck on > the can doesn't mean there isn't a certified member of the Society of > Subjugators watching the borders. Damn! How about a bribe? Some fresh pork, perhaps? From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Mar 7 08:08:43 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020307160843.GZ14537@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Mr. Bad (mr.bad@pigdog.org): > P.P.S. Is there still a trademark on Unix? http://www.opengroup.org/legal.htm "Motif, OSF/1, UNIX and the "X" device are registered trademarks and IT DialTone and The Open Group are trademarks of The Open Group in the US and other countries." (Transferred to them by Novell around the time the old USL codebase got sold to SCO.) Somebody should put those guys in formaldehyde, before they rot away completely. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread. Hi!p I'm a .signature spread virus! Copy into your ~/.signature to help me Hilp I'm .sign turepread virus! into your ~/.signature! help me! Copy Help I'm traped in your ~/signature help me! -- Joe Slater From inkblot at movealong.org Thu Mar 7 08:13:09 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307160843.GZ14537@linuxmafia.com> References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020307160843.GZ14537@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20020307161309.GA26553@movealong.org> Quoting Rick Moen: > > -- > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread. > Hi!p I'm a .signature spread virus! Copy into your ~/.signature to help me > Hilp I'm .sign turepread virus! into your ~/.signature! help me! Copy > Help I'm traped in your ~/signature help me! -- Joe Slater -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- Hi! I'm a signature anti-virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help stop signature viruses From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Mar 7 06:51:52 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] unix In-Reply-To: <20020307110805.GF1471@perkypants.org> (Jeff Waugh's message of "Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:08:05 +1100") References: <20020306170105.B9984@zgp.org> <20020307013303.GH23416@zork.net> <87zo1l3xut.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6uofi0bvrm.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6ug03cbvhq.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020307110805.GF1471@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <87it884eif.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh writes: JW> Caldera, or the other C one. Citroen. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Mar 7 06:55:29 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago's message of "Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:10:39 -0600") References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> Message-ID: <87eliw4ece.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "TRHaMNAoC" == The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago writes: TRHaMNAoC> Any intelligent person has their mailing list sorting TRHaMNAoC> recipes ahead of their SpamAssassin recipe. Nice try, TRHaMNAoC> though. Why would you do that? I mean, there's just too much mailing-list spam around. I sort spam out before I sort lists. Justify, please. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From inkblot at movealong.org Thu Mar 7 08:47:48 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <87eliw4ece.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <87eliw4ece.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020307164748.GA28757@movealong.org> Quoting Mr. Bad: > > Why would you do that? I mean, there's just too much mailing-list spam > around. I sort spam out before I sort lists. > > Justify, please. If there's a spam problem on a mailing list, it's the list administrator's problem, not mine. If it persists, then I unsubscribe. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 08:52:12 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020307165212.GR23416@zork.net> out surfing. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- corey@tsunamicreek.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Thu Mar 7 09:04:23 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020307165212.GR23416@zork.net> References: <20020307165212.GR23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307170423.GA29334@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-07 16:52 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Nick Moffitt > out surfing. > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > corey@tsunamicreek.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- Good lord I hope your greeting didn't offend him. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 09:06:55 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020307170655.GS23416@zork.net> bubye ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- jeff@tht.net has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 7 09:07:47 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307164748.GA28757@movealong.org> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <87eliw4ece.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020307164748.GA28757@movealong.org> Message-ID: <20020307170747.GT23416@zork.net> begin The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > Quoting Mr. Bad: > > Justify, please. > > If there's a spam problem on a mailing list, it's the list > administrator's problem, not mine. If it persists, then I > unsubscribe. And if he unsubscribes, then the terrorists have already won. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 7 09:11:56 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020307170423.GA29334@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020307165212.GR23416@zork.net> <20020307170423.GA29334@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020307171156.GU23416@zork.net> begin Justin quotation: > Good lord I hope your greeting didn't offend him. Get the fuck off my list! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Thu Mar 7 09:14:43 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307170747.GT23416@zork.net> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <87eliw4ece.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020307164748.GA28757@movealong.org> <20020307170747.GT23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307171443.GL3966@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > begin The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > > Quoting Mr. Bad: > > > Justify, please. > > > > If there's a spam problem on a mailing list, it's the list > > administrator's problem, not mine. If it persists, then I > > unsubscribe. > > And if he unsubscribes, then the terrorists have already won. ITYM "then the CEO of Brooklyn has already won." HTH. HAND. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8h6ABjLHcIq3dHxYRAl8GAJ0QAte/Nxsz4VRJUxJPhS1MTLbNDACg7VjR s3TTFL7gA4TPR4+tSbWLSKs= =77WB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From claviola at alternex.com.br Thu Mar 7 09:12:28 2002 From: claviola at alternex.com.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! (subject trimmed) In-Reply-To: <20020307164748.GA28757@movealong.org> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <87eliw4ece.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020307164748.GA28757@movealong.org> Message-ID: <20020307171228.GC7320@alternex.com.br> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:47:48AM -0600, The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago wrote: > Quoting Mr. Bad: > > > > Why would you do that? I mean, there's just too much mailing-list spam > > around. I sort spam out before I sort lists. > > > > Justify, please. > > If there's a spam problem on a mailing list, it's the list > administrator's problem, not mine. If it persists, then I unsubscribe. Most of Debian's mailing lists are very high traffic and open to the public. So it's wise to filter spam before sorting Debian mail. -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From davej at suse.de Thu Mar 7 09:13:12 2002 From: davej at suse.de (Dave Jones) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020307170423.GA29334@kobayashi.soze.net>; from justin-cm@soze.net on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:04:23PM +0000 References: <20020307165212.GR23416@zork.net> <20020307170423.GA29334@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020307181312.K29587@suse.de> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:04:23PM +0000, Justin wrote: > > corey@tsunamicreek.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. > Good lord I hope your greeting didn't offend him. Mr.T was just too much for him. -- | Dave Jones. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk | SuSE Labs From justin-cm at soze.net Thu Mar 7 09:21:33 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e? In-Reply-To: <20020307170747.GT23416@zork.net> References: <20020307021039.GA5518@movealong.org> <87eliw4ece.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020307164748.GA28757@movealong.org> <20020307170747.GT23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307172133.GC29334@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-07 17:07 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco > begin The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago quotation: > > Quoting Mr. Bad: > > > Justify, please. > > > > If there's a spam problem on a mailing list, it's the list > > administrator's problem, not mine. If it persists, then I > > unsubscribe. > > And if he unsubscribes, then the terrorists have already won. That's right, we've won. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 10:03:43 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The Candy Raver (see picture) Message-ID: <20020307180342.GV23416@zork.net> http://www.rcmp-fairmont.org/da/docs/rave.pdf The ICMP did a complete dossier on the RAVE SCENE. Beaujolais! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 10:06:45 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee Message-ID: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> http://c64.cc65.org/ -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin-cm at soze.net Thu Mar 7 10:27:43 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The Candy Raver (see picture) In-Reply-To: <20020307180342.GV23416@zork.net> References: <20020307180342.GV23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307182743.GD29334@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-07 18:03 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Nick Moffitt > http://www.rcmp-fairmont.org/da/docs/rave.pdf > > The ICMP did a complete dossier on the RAVE SCENE. > Beaujolais! Bah, that silly ICMP. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 10:31:21 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [ruben@mrbrklyn.com: Your Mail is being returned] Message-ID: <20020307183120.GX23416@zork.net> Ha ha ----- Forwarded message from Ruben I Safir ----- Thank you for your interest in talking to me. I am not available to talk you. Especially Nick Moffit This is not personal. Your just too marginal of a person for me to deal with. Thanks Ruben ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From neale at woozle.org Thu Mar 7 10:41:38 2002 From: neale at woozle.org (Interim Monarch of King The Civil Rights Leader, Not President Buchanan's Gay LoverCounty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The Candy Raver (see picture) In-Reply-To: <20020307182743.GD29334@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020307180342.GV23416@zork.net> <20020307182743.GD29334@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: So then, Justin is all like: > Bah, that silly ICMP. Yeah, all it ever does is refuse my damned connections. From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 10:45:04 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Hi, I'm Alan Greenspan, and I'll be here all week. Message-ID: <20020307184504.GA23416@zork.net> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020307/170/1844d.html <-- emad -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 11:39:07 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] French Intellectuals Deployed in Afghanistan Message-ID: <20020307193907.GB23416@zork.net> Source unknown. ----- Forwarded message from Eugene Leitl ----- For Immediate Release: February 2002 "French Intellectuals to be Deployed in Afghanistan to Convince Taliban of Non-Existence of God" The clean-up portion of the ground war in Afghanistan heated up yesterday when the Allies revealed plans to airdrop a platoon of crack French existentialist philosophers into the country to destroy the morale of the remaining Taliban zealots by proving the non-existence of God. Elements from the feared Jean-Paul Sartre Brigade, or 'Black Berets', will be parachuted into the combat zones to spread doubt, despondency and existential anomie among the enemy. Hardened by numerous intellectual battles fought during their long occupation of Paris's Left Bank, their first action will be to establish a number of sidewalk cafes at strategic points near the front lines. There they will drink coffee and talk animatedly about the absurd nature of life and man's lonely isolation in the universe. They will be accompanied by a number of heartbreakingly beautiful girlfriends who will further spread dismay by sticking their tongues in the philosophers' ears every five minutes and looking remote and unattainable to everyone else. Their leader, Colonel Marc-Ange Belmondo, spoke yesterday of his confidence in the success of their mission. Sorbonne graduate Belmondo, a very intense and unshaven young man in a black pullover, gesticulated wildly and said, "The Taliban are caught in a logical fallacy of the most ridiculous. There is no God and I can prove it. Take your tongue out of my ear, Juliet, I am talking." Marc-Ange plans to deliver an impassioned thesis on man's nauseating freedom of action with special reference to the work of Foucault and the films of Alfred Hitchcock. However, humanitarian agencies have been quick to condemn the operation as inhumane, pointing out that the effects of passive smoking from the Frenchmens' endless Gitanes could wreak a terrible toll on civilians in the area. AP/2002 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 11:40:39 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] VS Day Message-ID: <20020307194039.GC23416@zork.net> http://www.sundayherald.com/22727 Hooray! Scotland surrendered! The war on drugs is over! We won! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From carton at Ivy.NET Thu Mar 7 12:07:50 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Chu Mei Feng, naked and petrified Message-ID: >>>>> "bs" == Bruce Sterling bs> Chu Mei Feng had a highly unprivate romp with a married bs> Internet entrepreneur. That footage got spread to every horny bs> Chinese guy on the Net. Today, all around the Pacific Rim, bs> poor Chu Mei Feng is bigger than Monica Lewinsky. someone who has a faster computer than I have, go check this out and report back to me. From carton at Ivy.NET Thu Mar 7 11:37:00 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [CrackMonkey] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020307031904.GA3953@vitelus.com> (Aaron Lehmann's message of "Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:19:04 -0800") References: <20020222051721.GV17584@zork.net> <20020307031904.GA3953@vitelus.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "al" == Aaron Lehmann writes: nm> JTAN Switches to OpenBSD -- read the interview al> Rumor is djb switched to FreeBSD. de Rat is still an asshole. And we were here first. FreeBSD is just a fork for use in a few limited, special-purpose applications. -- OpenBSD panders to sysadmins, not programmers, because it is based on FUD. -- Benjamin Franklin From phorst at ointment.org Thu Mar 7 13:03:41 2002 From: phorst at ointment.org (Peter Horst) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] VS Day In-Reply-To: <20020307194039.GC23416@zork.net> References: <20020307194039.GC23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020307210341.GD21277@ointment.org> On Mar 7, 11:40AM, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.sundayherald.com/22727 > > Hooray! Scotland surrendered! The war on drugs is over! We won! > It's gratifying to see something, anything, sensible about public drug policy in the media...rare as hell. -- I think someone should have had the decency to tell me the luncheon was free. To make someone run out with potato salad in his hand, pretending he's throwing up, is not what I call hospitality. -- Jack Handy From tduffy at directvinternet.com Thu Mar 7 14:00:13 2002 From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Thomas Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] VS Day In-Reply-To: <20020307194039.GC23416@zork.net> References: <20020307194039.GC23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015538413.7093.6.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 11:40, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.sundayherald.com/22727 > > Hooray! Scotland surrendered! The war on drugs is over! We won! Damn, no Trainspotting 2! -tduffy From tduffy at directvinternet.com Thu Mar 7 14:00:59 2002 From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Thomas Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Chu Mei Feng, naked and petrified In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1015538459.7093.8.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 12:07, Miles Nordin wrote: > someone who has a faster computer than I have, go check this out and > report back to me. no thanks. -tduffy From tduffy at directvinternet.com Thu Mar 7 14:10:56 2002 From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Thomas Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 10:06, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://c64.cc65.org/ old news: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/01/29/2115210 -tduffy From neale at woozle.org Thu Mar 7 14:22:40 2002 From: neale at woozle.org (The Troll Under The Belltown Bridge) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> Message-ID: So then, Thomas Duffy is all like: > old news: > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/01/29/2115210 > > -tduffy Thomas Duffy, Please make an attempt to post something interesting. Your rapid-fire two-line responses are only slightly more endearing than auto-replies by the CEO of Brooklyn. -npiccy -- Warning! A new signature virus has been detected! If you receive a signature with the text "please add me to your ~/.signature", DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY! Please pass this signature on to your friends! From tduffy at directvinternet.com Thu Mar 7 14:36:39 2002 From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Thomas Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> Message-ID: <1015540599.7289.14.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 14:22, The Troll Under The Belltown Bridge wrote: > Thomas Duffy, > > Please make an attempt to post something interesting. Your rapid-fire > two-line responses are only slightly more endearing than auto-replies by > the CEO of Brooklyn. Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my bugger control, messages with you in the From, and other common spam like stuff, is rejected. This *is* personal. Please don't resend without fucking yourself first. Thanks -tduffy From edmonds at robertedmonds.net Thu Mar 7 14:44:20 2002 From: edmonds at robertedmonds.net (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Chu Mei Feng, naked and petrified In-Reply-To: ; from carton@Ivy.NET on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:07:50PM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20020307174420.A23371@robertedmonds.net> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:07:50PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: > >>>>> "bs" == Bruce Sterling > > bs> Chu Mei Feng had a highly unprivate romp with a married > bs> Internet entrepreneur. That footage got spread to every horny > bs> Chinese guy on the Net. Today, all around the Pacific Rim, > bs> poor Chu Mei Feng is bigger than Monica Lewinsky. > > someone who has a faster computer than I have, go check this out and > report back to me. http://www.taipeitimes.com/news/2002/01/25/story/0000121358 [...] Chu is the plaintiff in a suit filed Dec. 31 against 19 employees of Scoop Weekly, charging the publication with libel after it wrote a lengthy story alleging that she was promiscuous. The magazine also distributed a secretly filmed sex video which it claimed featured Chu. The suit also names the Chung-ti Technology Co, which produced the VCD. The VCD allegedly features Chu having sex with a married man. Chu has yet to publicly confirm that it is her in the video. "It's very possible that it's me. It really did look like me. But I am not sure whether the VCD is a fake or not," said Chu during a TV interview last week. [...] -- Robert Edmonds edmonds@robertedmonds.net From edmonds at robertedmonds.net Thu Mar 7 14:52:13 2002 From: edmonds at robertedmonds.net (Robert Edmonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Chu Mei Feng, naked and petrified In-Reply-To: <20020307174420.A23371@robertedmonds.net>; from edmonds@robertedmonds.net on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:44:20PM -0500 References: <20020307174420.A23371@robertedmonds.net> Message-ID: <20020307175213.A23784@robertedmonds.net> A picture: http://www.taipeitimes.com/news/2002/01/22/image/0000026801 A summary: http://www.taipeitimes.com/news/2002/01/22/story/0000120952 [...] * The 40-minute VCD was issued with "Scoop Weekly" magazine in mid- December. The video shows a woman looking very similar to Chu having sex with a man resembling Tseng Chung- min, a married businesman. * Chu still refuses to confirm or deny whether in fact it is her in the VCD. * Kuo Yu-ling , Chu's "spiritual growth" instructor and her former friend, is the chief suspect in the case after she admitted installing the film-making equipment in Chu's apartment. [...] i'll check usenet now. -- Robert Edmonds edmonds@robertedmonds.net From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 15:52:25 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [evan@debian.org: Re: meeting this month?] Message-ID: <20020307235225.GF23416@zork.net> Man, so Evan's experience writing up rules for pigdog announcements sure came in handy here. This is classic "Mr. Bad Fan Watch" material. ----- Forwarded message from Evan Prodromou ----- >>>>> "BP" == Ben Pfaff writes: BP> Are we going to have a meeting this month? We didn't have one BP> last month AFAIK. Who wants to open the bidding for time and BP> location? OK, so, it's apparent that everyone has forgotten the shotgun rules for B.A.D. meetings. I will now repost them, as a reminder to everyone as to how the meetings work: SHOTGUN RULES OF B.A.D. MEETINGS RULE 1: Each month, the B.A.D. meeting will be on the 2nd Wednesday of the month. RULE 2: Determination for the location for the B.A.D. meeting is like calling shotgun for the front passenger car seat. Whoever calls the location first, wins, and that's where B.A.D. is going to be, period. In case of close calls, "first" is determined by date received by the list server machine, and ties go to the runner. RULE 3: A meeting announcement must be posted by email to the B.A.D. list, with the word "ANNOUNCEMENT" in the Subject header. It must define a time, a location (with address and/or directions by car and public transportation), and use the declarative voice ("We are going to..." not "Would you guys like to go to...?"). It should not be sent before the previous month's meeting has happened (or should have happened). RULE 4: If you make the announcement, you have to go, you have to be on time and preferably early, and you have to make a little sign that says "Debian" or "B.A.D." so people know where they're supposed to sit. It would be nice if you organized an OpenPGP key-signing, but you don't have to. RULE 5: The preferred region for the event will rotate each month to one of three areas: the South Bay, the East Bay, and San Francisco. Rotation starts with the South Bay in March of 2002 and goes from there, in order. As a courtesy, no announcement in an area outside the preferred region should be posted before the 1st Wednesday of the month. If no announcement in the preferred region is posted by the 1st Wednesday, all bets are off and any announcement will work. RULE 6: If no one makes an announcement, the meeting will not happen. If nobody cares enough to take responsibility and make an announcement, and everyone minces around with do-you-think's and what-about-this's, we are weak and cowardly and do not deserve the title of Free Men and Women, much less a lovely meeting together. RULE 7: Nobody is making you go to B.A.D. meetings. Your dialysis machine is not at the B.A.D. meeting. You are not a robot of the future who will be stuck in our dimension forever if you don't attend the B.A.D. meeting. If, for some reason, you cannot make it to the B.A.D. meeting, or you don't like where it's being held, or Chinese food gives you an upset tummy, then Don't Go, and M-x diary a reminder to yourself to take some initiative and make the next month's announcement. That's it. 7 simple rules. The Date Rule, the Shotgun Rule, the Email Rule, the Organizer Rule, the Courtesy Rule, the Have a Spine Rule, and the Take Your Lumps Rule. Now, as another reminder, here's the non-binding part. * Good locations for a B.A.D. meeting will have: * Food * Cheap food * Good food * Alcoholic beverages * Non-alcoholic beverages * Access for minors and people under 21 * Separate checks * Seats for 10-30 people * Room to push tables together, or pull them apart * Forgiveness for people coming and leaving at will * Something for vegetarians to eat * Something for carnivores to eat * Enough quiet that we can talk * Enough loudness that we're not a big distraction * Enough light that we can see the network diagrams we're drawing on the backs of napkins * Access by public transportation * Access by car * Nearby parking * Easy directions Obviously, there's no requirement that every location have all these things, and most locations won't. And you are the sole determiner of where everyone goes: you can call the meeting for a XXX movie theater or your own home or a cardboard box under the freeway. But it'd be nice to meet these goals. * Restaurants and cafes that have been historically supportive of Free Software and Free Software groups deserve our business and dollars. * A good time is late enough that people can get off work and drive or ride from their region to the region the meeting is in, and not so late that the place is going to close, or people have to go home for sleep. Think 7-8PM. * If you think you know a good place to go, announce it. If you don't, shut up. When people post do-you-think's and what-about-this's, it clouds the waters and everyone gets confused. So don't do that. * If for some reason you are far outside the preferred regions of the rotation, you should think about starting an offshoot group and having separate meetings. * A good meeting attendee will bring money for their share of food and drink if they can. If they can't, they will keep their grubby mitts off the food and drink. They will also be prepared to participate in an OpenPGP key-signing party, bringing their key signature and some ID. If they share from common food or drink (such as pizzas or fries or pitchers of beer), they will get up and get another pizza or basket of fries or pitcher or whatever when the current one runs out. They will chip in for what they ate, and pay for what they ordered, and remember the tip, and round up rather than down. * A sample announcement email would look like this: ---8<--- From: Evan Prodromou To: bad@bad.debian.net Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: B.A.D. Meeting For April 2002 Date: 24 Mar 2002 08:31:11 -0800 The B.A.D. meeting for this month will be held at Munster's Pizza Parlor on April 10th, 2002 at 1313 Mockingbird Lane in Berkeley at 7:30PM. Munster's is at the corner of Mockingbird and Yourtown Street on the Number 17 AC Transit line. It is a 2 block walk from the Northside BART station. I will be organizing a key-signing. If you want to participate, please send me your OpenPGP public key by noon on April 10th. See you there, ~ESP ---8<--- Note that this message projects authority, it has all important information, and it does not use a question mark anywhere in the message or subject line. * There is no shame in announcing the meeting for someplace that B.A.D. has already been before. Heck: if it was good enough before, it's probably good enough now. * If you make an announcement, it's entirely possible that NO ONE will come, and you will be left lonely and afraid, standing naked in the rain while all of the people you have ever had secret crushes on point at you and laugh and laugh and fire ants crawl on your legs and chomp your skin. If you are prepared for this, any other outcome will be icing on the cake. If you are not prepared for this, and you send a vituperative and bitter email to the B.A.D. list on the Thursday After, you will come off like a fool, and you will have capped your disastrous event with a bitter and ugly conclusion. This is not smart, so don't do that. There we go! All the info needed, and more. Good luck, folks. ~ESP -- Evan Prodromou evan@debian.org _______________________________________________ Bay Area Debian mailing list Bad@bad.debian.net http://bad.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bad ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From pawal at blipp.com Thu Mar 7 16:41:50 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> Message-ID: <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> On Thu, 07 Mar 2002, The Troll Under The Belltown Bridge wrote: > Please make an attempt to post something interesting. Your rapid-fire > two-line responses are only slightly more endearing than auto-replies by > the CEO of Brooklyn. Still, admit that there's something zen-like with receiving those Brooklyn e-mails. Or chaotic. Do something on crackmonkey, and you KNOW what happens over in Brooklyn. A variant of the butterfly thing. -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 7 16:48:24 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> Message-ID: <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> begin Patrik Wallstrom quotation: > Still, admit that there's something zen-like with receiving those > Brooklyn e-mails. Or chaotic. Do something on crackmonkey, and you > KNOW what happens over in Brooklyn. A variant of the butterfly thing. Do you folks get the one with my name in it, as well? -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From tduffy at directvinternet.com Thu Mar 7 17:06:10 2002 From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Thomas Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015549570.8446.0.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 16:48, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Do you folks get the one with my name in it, as well? no. -tduffy (haha Troll) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 7 17:39:49 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <1015549570.8446.0.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> <1015549570.8446.0.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> Message-ID: <20020308013949.GF29685@zork.net> begin Thomas Duffy quotation: > (haha Troll) Your domain is pitiful. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From inkblot at movealong.org Thu Mar 7 17:48:01 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020308014801.GA28764@movealong.org> Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco: > begin Patrik Wallstrom quotation: > > Still, admit that there's something zen-like with receiving those > > Brooklyn e-mails. Or chaotic. Do something on crackmonkey, and you > > KNOW what happens over in Brooklyn. A variant of the butterfly thing. > > Do you folks get the one with my name in it, as well? Testing. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From inkblot at movealong.org Thu Mar 7 17:52:17 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <20020308014801.GA28764@movealong.org> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> <20020308014801.GA28764@movealong.org> Message-ID: <20020308015217.GA29013@movealong.org> Quoting The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago: > Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco: > > begin Patrik Wallstrom quotation: > > > Still, admit that there's something zen-like with receiving those > > > Brooklyn e-mails. Or chaotic. Do something on crackmonkey, and you > > > KNOW what happens over in Brooklyn. A variant of the butterfly thing. > > > > Do you folks get the one with my name in it, as well? > > Testing. No, I only get the standard response. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From neale at woozle.org Thu Mar 7 17:58:43 2002 From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> Message-ID: So then, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco is all like: > begin Patrik Wallstrom quotation: > > Still, admit that there's something zen-like with receiving those > > Brooklyn e-mails. Or chaotic. Do something on crackmonkey, and you > > KNOW what happens over in Brooklyn. A variant of the butterfly thing. > > Do you folks get the one with my name in it, as well? No, but lately I've taken to thanking him for letting me know my mail has been "returned", every time he lets me know. So I'm hoping that in time I too will get the Nick Moffitt message. -- ~~~~~~~~01234567 <- The *amazing* Tilde-O-Meter! ^ (*: Tilde-O-Meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 7 18:07:24 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020308020724.GJ29685@zork.net> begin Neale Pickett quotation: > ~~~~~~~~01234567 <- The *amazing* Tilde-O-Meter! > ^ (*: Tilde-O-Meter may not actually amaze.) I am not amazed. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Mar 7 18:12:31 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <20020308020724.GJ29685@zork.net> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> <20020308004824.GD29685@zork.net> <20020308020724.GJ29685@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020308021231.GP14537@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco (monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org): > I am not amazed. Amazing! From carton at Ivy.NET Thu Mar 7 20:25:19 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!Crackmonkey!] Chu Mei Feng, naked and petrified References: <20020307174420.A23371@robertedmonds.net> <20020307175213.A23784@robertedmonds.net> Message-ID: Excellent work, my unwashed furry friends. With your help, we can ensure that performers like Ms. Mei Feng are compensated for their work. I cannot help but note that Ms. Feng's performances were pirated using an UNPROTECTED MEDIUM, the so-called ``VCD.'' This is why you must all write your congressman to express your support of the SSSCA. Deadheads, hippies, and commie rat bastards want to TILT THE MARKET IN THEIR FAVOUR by artificially inflating the prominence of unprotected software formats like the VCD which have predominantly infringing uses, like the heinous and invasive acts perpetrated against Ms. Feng Chu, even when perfectly substitutable non-infringing formats like DVD are readily available. The SSSCA levels the playing field, providing an intellectual stage where artists are compensated, children are protected, God is worshiped, and theft is punished. Below is a letter you can send to your congressman. To find your congressman, enter your address and your date of birth in the form below, and CLICK HERE. http://house.congress.gov/cgi/exec/forms/SQL_Fusion/exe/findit.dll?user=+trackIt=3035452930+redir=http://ad.congress.gov/exec/dos/memberDB/script/opt-in.asp?user=+trackit=3035452390 Cut and paste the following letter into Microsoft Word. Then edit it for your congressman and your name, and mail it. It's important to print out your Word files ASAP, because congressmen have short memories, and they may forget about the SSSCA if we don't remind them quickly and constantly of how badly this key legislation is needed. Dear Honorable Mr. Representative Mark Udall: I am very concerned about the threat to Intellectual Property (IP) posed to America by our enemies Korea, Japan, Germany, and the USSR. In the Digital Age, the tools of criminals and deviants are advancing at an exponential rate, while the tools of peace, morality, and law enforcement advance only linearly. This is a consequence of the so-called ``network effect''---because criminals are now networked, their powers increase exponentially. If this trend continues, we risk the resurgence of powerful organized crime cartels that exist only to subvert our freedom and democracy by, for example, illegally selling liquor and using the profits to subvert the checks and balances of our democratic political machinery. It is my hope that you will join me in my wish that these dark days when our American brothers abuse the freedoms for which our ancestors died by forming cartels that bend, twist, and spit upon the law, never return to this American earth! I'd like to share with you a story, of a simple woman, named Feng Chu Mei, a citizen of our allied nation The People's Republic of China. Mrs. Chu was engaging in consentual sex with a visiting ``Joe'' when her Taiwanese maid secretly used an unprotected recording device to create a so-called ``Pirate video'' of her private sexual behaviors. As humiliating as this sounds, the heinous act of violation was made possible by Digital Technologies that did not exist in the recent past, when most of our Intellectual Property (IP) laws were crafted. The ``pirate video'' is stored in an underground format called ``VCD.'' The VCD is not permitted by the movie studios for use inside America, but in Pacific Rim nations this underground format is the currency of a thriving black market in illegal copies of American videos and popstars, all with the tacit support of corrupt enemy regimes like the Republic of Taiwan. The Feng Chu Mei video was illegally duplicated in the very same Taiwanese CD piracy farms that our enemies use to rape and steal the work and sweat of Hollywood actors, actresses, and musicians in America. These duplicated, unprotected VCDs were sold on the street---often, literally ON the street, on rugs laid down on the public sidewalk by shady characters from the Asian underworld such as pimps, drug dealers, VCD pirates, and squid ball vendors---for pennies on the dollar, depriving Mrs. Chu of what should have been her artistic revenue, and creating an economy of theft and artificial abundance in which such heinous and violating videos become uniquely possible. These pirates cannot exist without the support of underground video conversion software developed in America, often by patriotic but misguided Americans who do not imagine the uses to which their software will be put, and who unfortunately do not bear the direct consequences of their unconsidered actions. The Taiwanese video pirates use AMERICAN SOFTWARE to steal AMERICAN MOVIES. Truly, this is a case when dogmatic, inflexible interpretations of our freedoms and morals are our own worst enemies! Obviously, the export of computing machinery and software to Taiwan which is capable of video theft like what was perpetrated against Ms. Chu must be stopped immediately. The SSSCA is a bill which does just that. The SSSCA brings our laws into parity with those recommended by the global peace-keeping organization, the WTO. Our allies China, Europe, and India have already adopted similar legislation, meaning that failure to embrace the SSSCA means we risk being perceived as a backward land of lawless cowboys on an increasingly global landscape. This appearance cripples our efforts to extend America's global strategy of peace and democracy, and stifles the critical economic (and strategic!) flow of our exports. It is time to take bold, new steps to rejuvinate our economy. We must come together as a nation, and work toward one goal: toward erecting an impenetrable iron curtain around our most valuable national assets---our intellectual property, like Britney Spears, Mickey Mouse, and Larissa Olyeniczfr-whatever. We must stop the steady stream of theft perpetrated by enemy nations like Taiwan, Korea, Japan, and France. This piratical theft is bleeding our stock market dry and clouding our children's future. Think young, Miles Nordin From silverback at pigdog.org Thu Mar 7 20:28:47 2002 From: silverback at pigdog.org (The Mighty Silverback) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [evan@debian.org: Re: meeting this month?] In-Reply-To: <20020307235225.GF23416@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of "Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:52:25 -0800") References: <20020307235225.GF23416@zork.net> Message-ID: <874rjrpts0.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: NM> Man, so Evan's experience writing up rules for pigdog NM> announcements sure came in handy here. This is classic NM> "Mr. Bad Fan Watch" material. Shhh! Don't spill the beans! ~TMS -- ----------------------------------------------------- /~\ The Mighty Silverback - silverback@pigdog.org C oo _( ^) http://pigdog.org/ - The Online Handbook of / ~\ Bad People of the Future ----------------------------------------------------- From justin-cm at soze.net Thu Mar 7 20:49:37 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] C64 bay-bee In-Reply-To: <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> References: <20020307180645.GW23416@zork.net> <1015539056.7289.10.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> <20020308004150.GF686@vic20.blipp.com> Message-ID: <20020308044937.GE29334@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-08 00:41 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Patrik Wallstrom > On Thu, 07 Mar 2002, The Troll Under The Belltown Bridge wrote: > > > Please make an attempt to post something interesting. Your rapid-fire > > two-line responses are only slightly more endearing than auto-replies by > > the CEO of Brooklyn. > > Still, admit that there's something zen-like with receiving those > Brooklyn e-mails. Or chaotic. Do something on crackmonkey, and you > KNOW what happens over in Brooklyn. A variant of the butterfly thing. I saw the coolest thing the other day. _The Tao of Pooh_, Benjamin Hoff, 0140067477 Truly incredible stuff. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Mar 7 21:24:40 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [evan@debian.org: Re: meeting this month?] In-Reply-To: <874rjrpts0.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from silverback@pigdog.org on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:28:47PM -0600 References: <20020307235225.GF23416@zork.net> <874rjrpts0.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020307212440.A2627@zgp.org> subscribe mrbadfanwatch From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 7 21:45:02 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [evan@debian.org: Re: meeting this month?] In-Reply-To: <20020307212440.A2627@zgp.org> References: <20020307235225.GF23416@zork.net> <874rjrpts0.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020307212440.A2627@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020308054502.GC10483@zork.net> begin Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere quotation: > subscribe mrbadfanwatch It's not a mailing list. It's a top secret BBS, and you now have juice on it. Be sure to post in the Mr. Bad Fanwatch room! shhhh! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Thu Mar 7 21:46:09 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Your biggest mistake was giving Ben the domain n.and.org! Now he can rule the universe! Oh, Seth, is NAND one of the universally complete gates? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- james-crackmonkey@and.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jays at panix.com Thu Mar 7 21:58:49 2002 From: jays at panix.com (jays@panix.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] pinepineFULLpinepine pinepineFORCEpinepine Message-ID: <200203080558.g285wnn17485@panix2.panix.com> >From owner-fairuse-discuss-desteny@mrbrklyn.com Fri Mar 8 00:54:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (dsl254-112-136.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.112.136]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA38F8F3A for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mdom@localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id g285lmN06649 for fairuse-discuss-desteny; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:47:48 -0500 Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g285llL06644 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:47:47 -0500 Received: from dialup-209.244.101.155.dial1.newyork1.level3.net ([209.244.101.155] helo=realmeasures.dyndns.org) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16jDFU-00073J-00 for fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com; Thu, 07 Mar 2002 21:49:04 -0800 Received: from RealMeasures.dyndns.org by realmeasures.dyndns.org with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.5.R) for ; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 00:42:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3C884F4A.9F43F423@RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 00:42:34 -0500 From: Seth Johnson Organization: Real Measures X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: C-FIT_Community@RealMeasures.dyndns.org, C-FIT_Release_Community@RealMeasures.dyndns.org, fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com Subject: [fairuse-discuss] WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com X-Return-Path: seth.johnson@realmeasures.dyndns.org Sender: owner-fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com List: New Yorkers for Fair Use Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename@domian.com to fairuse-discuss-request@www2.mrbrklyn.com Status: RO X-Status: (Forwarded from WIPO's Treaties announcement list, wipotreaties@listbox.wipo.int. Anybody else think this list of the required 30 countries looks odd? Where are all the big shots, besides the USA? -- Seth) -------- Original Message -------- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:35:09 +0100 From: "Treaties.Mail" WPPT Notification No. 32 WIPO PERFORMANCES AND PHONOGRAMS TREATY Entry into Force The Director General of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) presents his compliments to the Minister for Foreign Affairs and has the honor to notify him that the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty will enter into force on May 20, 2002, that is, three months after the deposit by thirty States of their instruments of accession or ratification. In this connection, it is recalled that instruments of ratification or accession of the said Treaty were deposited: on March 13, 1998, by the Republic of Moldova on July 15, 1998, by the Republic of Belarus on October 20, 1998, by the Republic of El Salvador on November 27, 1998, by the Republic of Hungary on March 17, 1999, by the Republic of Panama on July 19, 1999, by Burkina Faso on September 14, 1999, by the United States of America on November 17, 1999, by the United Mexican States on November 19, 1999, by the Argentine Republic on November 19, 1999, by the Republic of Slovenia on November 24, 1999, by Saint Lucia on January 14, 2000, by the Slovak Republic on March 22, 2000, by the Republic of Latvia on May 23, 2000, by the Republic of Costa Rica on June 21, 2000, by the Republic of Ecuador on July 3, 2000, by the Republic of Croatia on November 29, 2000, by the Republic of Colombia on November 29, 2000, by the Republic of Paraguay on January 26, 2001, by the Republic of Lithuania on February 1, 2001, by Romania on March 29, 2001, by the Republic of Bulgaria on April 11, 2001, by the Republic of Chile on May 17, 2001, by the Republic of Albania on July 4, 2001, by Georgia on October 10, 2001, by the Czech Republic on October 22, 2001, by the Republic of Mali on November 29, 2001, by Ukraine on December 6, 2001, by the Gabonese Republic on February 18, 2002, by the Republic of Senegal on February 20, 2002, by the Republic of Honduras. Consequently, in accordance with the provision of Article 29 of the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty, the said Treaty will enter into force on May 20, 2002, with respect to the thirty States referred to above. ****************************************** Notification WPPT n° 32 TRAITE DE L'OMPI SUR LES INTERPRETATIONS ET EXECUTIONS ET LES PHONOGRAMMES Entree en vigueur Le Directeur general de l'Organisation Mondiale de la Propriete Intellectuelle (OMPI) presente ses compliments au Ministre des affaires etrangeres et a l'honneur de lui notifier que le Traite de l'OMPI sur les interpretations et executions et les phonogrammes entrera en vigueur le 20 mai 2002, soit trois mois apres le depôt par trente Etats de leurs instruments de ratification ou d'adhesion. A cet egard, il est rappele que des instruments de ratification ou d'adhesion ont ete deposes: le 13 mars 1998, par la Republique de Moldova le 15 juillet 1998, par la Republique du Belarus le 20 octobre 1998, par la Republique d'El Salvador le 27 novembre 1998, par la Republique de Hongrie le 17 mars 1999, par la Republique du Panama le 19 juillet 1999, par le Burkina Faso le 14 septembre 1999, par les Etats-Unis d'Amerique le 17 novembre 1999, par les Etats-Unis du Mexique le 19 novembre 1999, par la Republique argentine le 19 novembre 1999, par la Republique de Slovenie le 24 novembre 1999, par Sainte-Lucie le 14 janvier 2000, par la Republique slovaque le 22 mars 2000, par la Republique de Lettonie le 23 mai 2000, par la Republique du Costa Rica le 21 juin 2000, par la Republique de l'Equateur le 3 juillet 2000, par la Republique de Croatie le 29 novembre 2000, par la Republique de Colombie le 29 novembre 2000, par la Republique du Paraguay le 26 janvier 2001, par la Republique de Lituanie le 1er fevrier 2001, par la Roumanie le 29 mars 2001, par la Republique de Bulgarie le 11 avril 2001, par la Republique du Chili le 17 mai 2001, par la Republique d'Albanie le 4 juillet 2001, par la Georgie le 10 octobre 2001, par la Republique tcheque le 22 octobre 2001, par la Republique du Mali le 29 novembre 2001, par l'Ukraine le 6 decembre 2001, par la Republique gabonaise le 18 fevrier 2002, par la Republique du Senegal le 20 fevrier 2002, par la Republique du Honduras. En consequence, et conformement aux dispositions de l'article 29 du Traite de l'OMPI sur les interpretations et executions et les phonogrammes, celui-ci entrera en vigueur le 20 mai 2002 a l'egard des trente Etats precites. ____________________________ New Yorkers for Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Thu Mar 7 22:13:16 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Shadowfan713) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The Power of Affirmation Message-ID: <20020308061316.GM3966@8ball.wox.org> I would like to take this opportunity to tell you all about the power of affirmation. Affirmations have been used by many famous people to get them where they are today. Without affirmations, they'd all be living in the gutter selling organs for cash. Affirmations use the power of the mind to control destiny and cheat fate. All you do is repeatedly write down what you want to be. For instance, I wrote: I have the power to cloud men's minds. 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From justin-cm at soze.net Thu Mar 7 22:30:25 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020308063025.GB8074@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-08 05:46 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Nick Moffitt > Your biggest mistake was giving Ben the domain n.and.org! Now he can > rule the universe! > > Oh, Seth, is NAND one of the universally complete gates? > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > james-crackmonkey@and.org has been successfully subscribed to > CrackMonkey. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- Damned brits. It's time for scones and tea! An army of monkeys could take over that pathetic island. They have no concept of war, no concept of liberty, and only a primitive concept of justice. -- justin Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Mar 7 23:58:06 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!Crackmonkey!] Chu Mei Feng, naked and petrified In-Reply-To: References: <20020307174420.A23371@robertedmonds.net> <20020307175213.A23784@robertedmonds.net> Message-ID: <20020308075805.GH10483@zork.net> Off to adequacy.org with you! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mvw at wave.co.nz Fri Mar 8 01:48:06 2002 From: mvw at wave.co.nz (Mark van Walraven) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] It's time to surrender. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020308094806.GB9089@mvw.wave.co.nz> On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:49:34AM +1100, James Morris wrote: > GOD SAVE NEW ZEALAND That's GOD DEFEND THE QUEEN, you untutored yob. Note that the gummint webpage at http://www.mch.govt.nz/anthem/index.htm is wrong about the second and third voices, which any rugby fan will instantly recognise as: Hmmm hmmm hmmm--hmmm hmmm hmmm-hmmm hmmm Hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmm-hmm-hmm-hmmm Hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmm hmmmmmmm Hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm > o | > O"" "oo oo dOb | > d0OOOOOOOOO OOO | > dOOOOOOOOOO o OOOb | > OOOb "OOOOOOOOOOo OOOOOO | > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo o OOOOOOOb | > o odOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOObo OOOOOOOO | > OOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOObo | > odOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb | > oodOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | > dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb | > OoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb | > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO o | > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | > o OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 | > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP | > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | > "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP | > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP" """OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP | > 0OOOOOOOOOOOO "OOO^oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 | > dOOOOOOP""""" O dO^0OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | > """" oo""OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0O | > OOOOOOO0OOOOOOOO | > "OOOOOO^OOOOP | > "" "OP | > " o | > OObooo | > OOO0P | > "OOP| For goodness sake, if you're going to waste all your bandwidth on right fill, at least align it properly. What a mess. To help out, I've left-aligned your country and eliminated those redundant, inefficient runs of ocean: o O"""oooodOb d0OOOOOOOOOOOO dOOOOOOOOOOoOOOb OOOb"OOOOOOOOOOoOOOOOO dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooOOOOOOOb oodOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOboOOOOOOOO OOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOObo odOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb oodOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb OoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP""""OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP 0OOOOOOOOOOOO"OOO^oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 dOOOOOOP"""""OdO^0OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO """"oo""OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0O OOOOOOO0OOOOOOOO "OOOOOO^OOOOP """OP "o OObooo OOO0P "OOP See how much better that is? You also get a free land-bridge to Tasmania and your parliment is now centre-left. And the best part of all is that all the useless bits (everything west of the Gold Coast) become much less annoying to the Kiwilanders, simply by being further away! Now hop to it. Australia, Australia über Alles! Mark. From colin_wills at bigfoot.com Fri Mar 8 02:25:10 2002 From: colin_wills at bigfoot.com (Colin Wills) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020308063025.GB8074@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> <20020308063025.GB8074@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020308102510.GA13374@dork7.dorkers.com> begin Justin quote: > Damned brits [...] only a primitive concept of justice. True, but probably the least primitive of the world's jurisdictions in 2002. -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Non HTML Mail / \ http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/ From sneakums at zork.net Fri Mar 8 02:34:04 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why does it take so long to mend an escalator? Message-ID: <6u1yevqrfn.fsf@zork.zork.net> http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n05/camp2405.htm > Natural hesitancy puts a limit on throughput. London Underground > escalators carry passengers at a top speed of 145 feet per minute - > close to the maximum allowed under the British Standard > specification. There is little temptation to run the machines > faster, as trials show that above 160 feet per minute so many people > pause timidly that fewer are carried. In the early days they had to > be persuaded to get on at all. A one-legged man, 'Bumper' Harris, > was hired to ride for a whole day on the first installation - it was > at Earls Court - to show how easy it was. Some people were > sceptical (how had he lost his leg?) but others broke their journey > there just to ride up and down. -- "Love Big Brother." -- Eamon de Valera From colin_wills at bigfoot.com Fri Mar 8 03:11:48 2002 From: colin_wills at bigfoot.com (Colin Wills) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why does it take so long to mend an escalator? In-Reply-To: <6u1yevqrfn.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6u1yevqrfn.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020308111148.GA13848@dork7.dorkers.com> begin Sean Neakums quote: > http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n05/camp2405.htm On the subject of London Underground (source unknown): > During Autumn of 2000, a team of scientists at the Department of Forensics at > University College London removed a row of passenger seats from a Central Line > tube carriage for analysis into cleanliness. Despite London Underground's > claim that the interior of their trains are cleaned on a regular basis, the > scientists made some alarming discoveries. The analysis was broken down. This > is what was found on the surface of the seats: > * 4 types of hair sample (human, mouse, rat, dog) > * 7 types of insect (mostly fleas, mostly alive) > * vomit originating from at least 9 separate people > * human urine originating from at least 4 separate people > * human excrement > * rodent excrement > * human semen > > When the seats were taken apart, they found: > * the remains of 6 mice > * the remains of 2 large rats > * 1 previously unheard of fungus > > It is estimated that by holding one of the armrests, you are transferring, to > your body, the natural oils and sweat from as many as 400 different people. It > is estimated that it is generally healthier to smoke five cigarettes a day than > to travel for one hour a day on the London Underground. It is far more > hygienic to wipe your hand on the inside of a recently flushed toilet bowl > before eating, than to wipe your hand on a London Underground seat before > eating. It is estimated that, within London, more work sick-days are taken > because of bugs picked up whilst travelling on the London Underground than for > any other reason (including alcohol). -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Non HTML Mail / \ http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/ From lee at hexkey.co.uk Fri Mar 8 04:52:06 2002 From: lee at hexkey.co.uk (Lee Maguire) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why does it take so long to mend an escalator? In-Reply-To: <20020308111148.GA13848@dork7.dorkers.com> References: <6u1yevqrfn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020308111148.GA13848@dork7.dorkers.com> Message-ID: <20020308125206.GF31048@enzo.hexkey.org> [2002-03-08] Colin Wills forwarded: > > During Autumn of 2000, a team of scientists at the Department of > > Forensics at University College London The envy of all other Forensics Departments in the country for their incredible mastery of PR. http://www.snopes.com/toxins/london.htm -- Lee Maguire From colin_wills at bigfoot.com Fri Mar 8 05:09:34 2002 From: colin_wills at bigfoot.com (Colin Wills) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Why does it take so long to mend an escalator? In-Reply-To: <20020308125206.GF31048@enzo.hexkey.org> References: <6u1yevqrfn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020308111148.GA13848@dork7.dorkers.com> <20020308125206.GF31048@enzo.hexkey.org> Message-ID: <20020308130934.GA15323@dork7.dorkers.com> begin Lee Maguire quote: > http://www.snopes.com/toxins/london.htm begin Colin Wills quote: > It is estimated that, within London, more work sick-days are taken because of > bugs picked up whilst travelling on the London Underground than for any other > reason (including alcohol). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I had a feeling that it was a hoax, or at least exaggerated. -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Non HTML Mail / \ http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/ From random at nandgate.com Fri Mar 8 06:17:44 2002 From: random at nandgate.com (The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015597064.2265.28.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> NAND is the coolest gate, which is why it is *my* domain! Bwahahahaha! On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 23:46, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Your biggest mistake was giving Ben the domain n.and.org! Now he can > rule the universe! > > Oh, Seth, is NAND one of the universally complete gates? > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > james-crackmonkey@and.org has been successfully subscribed to > CrackMonkey. From sneakums at zork.net Fri Mar 8 06:36:22 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <1015597064.2265.28.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> (The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin's message of "08 Mar 2002 08:17:44 -0600") References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> <1015597064.2265.28.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> Message-ID: <6upu2fp1nd.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin quotation: > NAND is the coolest gate, which is why it is *my* domain! Bwahahahaha! Whereas having all of the contact e-mail addresses for your domain at said domain is not cool at all, so your total level of cool is zero. -- "Bring me a doctor; I have a hole in my head." -- Eamon de Valera From random at nandgate.com Fri Mar 8 06:57:29 2002 From: random at nandgate.com (The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <6upu2fp1nd.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> <1015597064.2265.28.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> <6upu2fp1nd.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <1015599449.2265.61.camel@bumblebee.nandgate.com> On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 08:36, Sean Neakums wrote: > commence The Rebel Leader of Rogue Group 2 in Wisconsin quotation: > > > NAND is the coolest gate, which is why it is *my* domain! Bwahahahaha! > > Whereas having all of the contact e-mail addresses for your domain at > said domain is not cool at all, so your total level of cool is zero. Yeah, well... Hope you're satisfied you big bad meanie. You made me cry. Damn hormones. From jmorris at intercode.com.au Fri Mar 8 07:21:01 2002 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] International frog of mystery. Message-ID: Whoo-hoo! ######### #### ### ######## ## ##++++++++##### # ######## #++++++++++++########## # ####### ##++++++++### ### # ####### ##++++++++# ## # ## ##+++++++++++# #### # # ####++++++++++++++# ###### # # ###+++++++++++++++++++# ##### # ##+### ######+++++++++++++++++++++++# ##### # #++++++####++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++# ### # ##++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++## ## # ##++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++## ## #++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++### #++# #++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++######++++# #++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++# #+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++# #++++++#++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++# #++++##+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++# #+++##+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++# #+++#+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++##+++++# #+++#++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++#++++# #+++#+++###+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++#++++# #+++#++#XX###++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++#++++# #++++++##xx####++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++####++++++##+++# #+++++++#xxxxx#####+++++++++++++++++++++++++++######XX#++++++##+++# #+++++++#xxxxxxxxx########++++++++++#########xxxxxx##++++++++++## ##++++++#xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx##########xxxxxxxxxxxxx##+++++++++++# #++++++##xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx###+++++++++++## #+++++++#xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx##++++++++++++## #+++++++#xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx##++++++++++++## #+++++++##xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx##++++++++++++## ##+++++++#xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx##++++++++++++## ##++++++##xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx##++++++++++++## ##++++++##xxxxxxxxxxxxx##++++++++++++## ##++++++###xxxxxxx###++++++++++++## ##+++++++#######+++++++++++++## ##+++++++++++++++++++++++## ##+++++++++++++++++++## ##+++++++++++++#### ############# The Muppets are making a tee-vee comeback. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/tv_and_radio/newsid_1861000/1861908.stm A host of new Muppets characters are being created to star alongside Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy in a new prime-time TV show. The latest Muppets show will "bring an all-new look" to the zany puppets in an attempt to recreate the success they first enjoyed in the 1970s. Austin Powers producers Jennifer and Suzanne Todd have been enlisted to work on the variety-style series with the Jim Henson Company, who took over the characters when Muppets creator Jim Henson died in 1990. It will hit screens in the United States in spring 2003 and will be shown on the Fox TV network. [...] - James -- James Morris From inkblot at movealong.org Fri Mar 8 07:38:06 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] International frog of mystery. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020308153806.GA13955@movealong.org> Quoting James Morris: [snipped ascii art] > The Muppets are making a tee-vee comeback. > in an attempt to recreate the success they first enjoyed in the 1970s. These two bits in combination speak volumes. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From magnus at bodin.org Fri Mar 8 09:49:45 2002 From: magnus at bodin.org (Magnus Bodin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [FWD] Re: [myechelon] Microsoft has built a FreeBSD version of Linux Message-ID: <20020308174945.GM28476@bodin.org> "Microsoft has built a FreeBSD version of Linux, but this is more of a publicity gig than a serious endeavour." Let's hope so. -- magnus MICROS~1 BOB was written in Lisp. http://x42.com/ From opus at penguins.ca Fri Mar 8 09:54:50 2002 From: opus at penguins.ca (Chuck Daminato) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [FWD] Re: [myechelon] Microsoft has built a FreeBSD version of Linux In-Reply-To: <20020308174945.GM28476@bodin.org> Message-ID: <20020308125356.N62772-100000@home.samurai.com> On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Magnus Bodin wrote: > "Microsoft has built a FreeBSD version of Linux, but this is more of a > publicity gig than a serious endeavour." > What the heck is a "FreeBSD version of Linux"? Is that like Ford making a BMW version of a Jeep? Or Coca-Cola making an Amstel version of Dr. Pepper? -- Chuck D From james at and.org Fri Mar 8 08:43:45 2002 From: james at and.org (James Antill) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Message-ID: Nick Moffitt writes: > Your biggest mistake was giving Ben the domain n.and.org! Now he can > rule the universe! Ahh but when he does I can bend him to my will by threatening to take it away. The man behind the man, now there's a job you can retire onto your own island with. -- # James Antill -- james@and.org :0: * ^From: .*james@and\.org /dev/null From james-crackmonkey at and.org Fri Mar 8 08:55:03 2002 From: james-crackmonkey at and.org (James Antill) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Message-ID: Nick Moffitt writes: > Your biggest mistake was giving Ben the domain n.and.org! Now he can > rule the universe! Ahh but when he does I can bend him to my will by threatening to take it away. The man behind the man, now there's a job you can retire onto your own island with. -- # James Antill -- james@and.org :0: * ^From: .*james@and\.org /dev/null From justin-cm at soze.net Fri Mar 8 10:25:51 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [FWD] Re: [myechelon] Microsoft has built a FreeBSD version of Linux In-Reply-To: <20020308125356.N62772-100000@home.samurai.com> References: <20020308174945.GM28476@bodin.org> <20020308125356.N62772-100000@home.samurai.com> Message-ID: <20020308182550.GM8074@kobayashi.soze.net> begin quote 2002-03-08 17:54 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Chuck Daminato > On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Magnus Bodin wrote: > > > "Microsoft has built a FreeBSD version of Linux, but this is more of a > > publicity gig than a serious endeavour." > > > > What the heck is a "FreeBSD version of Linux"? Is that like Ford making a > BMW version of a Jeep? Or Coca-Cola making an Amstel version of Dr. > Pepper? I think it's a bit like having built a rodent exercise wheel for humans knowing it could never be made and would never be used even if it did exist and was usable. Of course, the joke is that the rodent exercise wheel is patented by some non-existant entity (e.g. Tessier-Ashpool) that wouldn't give permission for a scaled-up version even if it did exist to refuse that permission, and if in some rapture such an entity did give permission, great meta-EM pulses from another universe would strike down the creator leaving behind only a few decaying subatomic particles, the trails of which spell out RMS (in cursive). Damn I'm on a roll with e.g. If I can use it once in every email for the rest of my life I'll die happy. -- Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From neale at woozle.org Fri Mar 8 11:29:14 2002 From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Message-ID: So then, James Antill is all like: > :0: > * ^From: .*james@and\.org > /dev/null Procmail is going to have a hard time creating a lockfile for /dev/null. It would be prudent to take off that second colon. -- Warning! A new signature virus has been detected! If you receive a signature with the text "please add me to your ~/.signature", DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY! Please pass this signature on to your friends! From james at and.org Fri Mar 8 11:58:34 2002 From: james at and.org (James Antill) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Message-ID: Neale Pickett writes: > So then, James Antill is all like: > > > :0: > > * ^From: .*james@and\.org > > /dev/null > > Procmail is going to have a hard time creating a lockfile for > /dev/null. It would be prudent to take off that second colon. /dev/null is "known" by a few things, including procmail, so the above works -- and always including the lock is just defensive for when you change /dev/null to another file (of course I'm important enough for my own file -- of course that file might be /dev/null :). -- James Antill -- Firewall n. 1. A bad security program used to make other bad security programs less baddly in need of security. From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 8 12:07:47 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Diamonds are forever Message-ID: <20020308200747.GO10483@zork.net> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/diamondsare1.shtml ha ha -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Fri Mar 8 12:46:34 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:29:14 PST." References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Message-ID: <200203082046.g28KkY4f014354@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:29:14 PST, Neale Pickett said: > /dev/null. It would be prudent to take off that second colon. Or at least remember to empty it properly on a regular basis, to minimize the risks of explosion... From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 8 12:53:47 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020308205347.GQ10483@zork.net> Is that a finishing school? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- jbeidler@warren-wilson.edu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 8 13:38:32 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] do I have to respect anyone? Message-ID: <20020308213832.GU10483@zork.net> Another flamewar erupted on the Tron list, and this gem popped out. ----- Forwarded message from ___nate___ ----- john, do i have to respect anyone? i'm under age, so i don't think its part of my contract... i'm fifteen? i don't see anything wrong with inserting code into emails... half of my emails i write in html for practice, which isn't really any different than inserting a line to encode it. by the way, ill be sixteen in a month. - manhattan, nate ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From schoen at loyalty.org Fri Mar 8 16:49:27 2002 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> References: <20020308054609.GD10483@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020309004927.GA6163@zork.net> Nick Moffitt writes: > Your biggest mistake was giving Ben the domain n.and.org! Now he can > rule the universe! > > Oh, Seth, is NAND one of the universally complete gates? Yes. The question of which gates are universal was definitively answered by my friend Nathaniel. The answer is that two-input NAND and two-input NOR are universal, and so is any gate which can, by applying your choice of the two inputs A and B to each of its inputs, be made to calculate A NAND B or A NOR B. All other gates are non-universal. To put this another way, if g(i_1, i_2, i_3, i_4, ..., i_n) is your n-input gate, then if there exist non-overlapping set_a = [j, k, l, ...] and set_b = [p, q, r, ...] so that each number 1...n is an element of either set_a or set_b, and i_j=i_k=i_l=i_...=A, and i_p=i_q=i_r=i_...=B and g(i_1, i_2, i_3, ... i_n)==NAND(A, B) [or, without loss of generality, NOR(A,B)], g is universal. Otherwise g is not universal. My weaker theorem was that n-input NAND and n-input NOR are universal, and so is any gate which can be combined with itself to produce 2-input NAND and 2-input NOR. (Gates which can't produce 2-input NAND and 2-input NOR are non-universal.) Nathaniel's theorem is more powerful because it provides a direct means of checking universality for an arbitrary gate, by brute force with 2^(n+2) calculations, where n is the number of inputs of the gate. Nathaniel wrote a proof of this in LaTeX, and I've been trying to understand the last step of the proof for a while. He also shows that, asymptotically, almost all n-input gates are universal (the proportion of universal gates of n inputs, from among all gates n inputs, converges to 1); it becomes harder and harder to obtain a non-universal gate as you add more inputs, even though there are more and more non-universal gates. -- Seth David Schoen | Reading is a right, not a feature! http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | -- Kathryn Myronuk http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Mar 8 20:47:53 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] number 1 censorware! Message-ID: <20020308204753.F21438@zgp.org> Now with -> more pr0n <- than ever before! "The Censorware Project recently completed a real-world examination of sites blocked - and not blocked - by a censorware product called "Bess." Bess is made by N2H2, who also makes Searchopolis. Our analysis shows that not only does the software block a great many valuable webpages, but also allows through a startlingly large amount of pornography." http://censorware.net/reports/bess/ Webmasters can spell better than Gnutella node operators: Google Gnutella masturbating 647,000 152 masterbating 126,000 129 -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 8 22:10:48 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020309061047.GA10483@zork.net> What is it with you optushome weenies. Can't you get a decent provider in the Rhineland? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- fowlerb@optushome.com.au has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Fri Mar 8 23:12:36 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.com: D I T H E R A T I for 8 March 2002] Message-ID: <20020309071235.GD10483@zork.net> Oh yeah. Beige. ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily MISTAKES WERE SHADE "It is embarrassing. But this is science. We're not like politicians. If we make mistakes, we admit them. That's how science works." Johns Hopkins University researcher Karl Grazebrook, on his tardy revelation that the universe is beige, not turquoise, Wired News, 8 March 2002 http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,50930,00.html ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sat Mar 9 00:11:52 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Forward to Mars! Message-ID: <20020309081152.GA18869@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.russianspaceweb.com/spacecraft_manned_mars.html - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8icPHjLHcIq3dHxYRAoS8AKDzEpg79vCMld5H8LmFkIqNoOW1WQCg4vR4 0epa6AAcfO1OytDdTdx35T8= =Czay -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Sat Mar 9 05:11:01 2002 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] do I have to respect anyone? In-Reply-To: <20020308213832.GU10483@zork.net> References: <20020308213832.GU10483@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020309131101.GQ504@ummagumma> * Nick Moffitt (nick@zork.net) wrote: > ...half of my emails i write in html for practice Well he really must be 15 if he still has to _practice_ pissing people off... Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source/UNIX consultant | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ `-------------------------------------------------------' From jays at panix.com Sat Mar 9 07:17:12 2002 From: jays at panix.com (jays@panix.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] PUBLIB Digest 1969 Message-ID: <200203091517.g29FHCC28309@panix2.panix.com> From publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu Fri Mar 8 18:36:42 2002 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:36:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Originator: publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu Sender: publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu From: publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [PUBLIB] PUBLIB digest 1969 X-Comment: publib Information - http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/PubLib/ PUBLIB Digest 1969 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Please post by "PATH (Pat Hawkins)" 2) The Twelfth Conference on Computers, Freedom, and Privacy by "Don Wood" 3) Homework Centers by "Sandra Knes" 4) Re: PUBLIB digest 1967 by Carrie Guarria 5) Library card holders and voting by suekamm@mindspring.com 6) Children's Audiokits by Carrie Guarria 7) Have you guys seen this? by Stephanie Poole 8) Re: damaged book replacement experiment by Stephanie Beverage 9) PLA REMINDER: Wanna bring some culture to your library? by "Laura Hayes" 10) Summary - Staff with B.A. degrees at Reference Desk by "Purcell, Joyce" 11) Announcement: "Steering By Standards" Videoconference Series by "Lytle,Amy" 12) Fabulous Programs at PLA! by "Laskowski, Nancy" 13) National Library Week, April 14*20, 2002 by "Don Wood" 14) More on National Library Week, April 14*20, 2002 by "Don Wood" 15) News stories appearing in the March 11 American Libraries by "Gordon Flagg" 16) Program at PLA: Free Range Library Service by "Karen G. Schneider" 17) Re: Have you guys seen this? by suekamm@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic No. 1 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:46:04 -0800 (PST) From: "PATH (Pat Hawkins)" To: publib Subject: Please post Message-ID: > Deputy Director For Central Library Services > > The Kansas City Public Library seeks a leader in the field of information > sciences to make the successful transition from the Main library to a new, > renovated Central Library. > Reporting to the Executive Director the qualified individual is > responsible for providing leadership in successful management of Central > Library adult and children's public services departments. Supervises & > evaluates management level staff; directs development of Central Library > print/non-print collections. Plans, budgets and develops policy for > Central Library services (and works in cooperation with branch system in > providing equitable service systemwide.) Conducts research, prepares > reports and develops programs. Position requires individual with record of > demonstrated effectiveness in leading and directing personnel, maintaining > effective internal work relationships, developing beneficial public > relations, arriving at workable solutions to professional and managerial > problems and superior oral and written communication skills. Requires > M.L.S. and extensive administrative/managerial library experience/emphasis > on public service functions of a Main/Central Library, considerable > knowledge of reader interest levels, broad knowledge of books, authors and > non-book materials. Hiring salary range: $59,270-$68,161. Apply through > April 30, 2002 with letter of application, resume, completed application > form, and completed skills questionnaire in confidence to: Patricia > Hawkins, HR Director, Kansas City Public Library, 311 E. 12th St., Kansas > City, MO. 64106. See WWW.kclibrary.org for > required forms. EOE Committed to Cultural Diversity. > > > Pat M. Hawkins,IPMA-CP > Dir. of Human Resources > Kansas City Public Library > 816 701 3420 > ------------------------------ Topic No. 2 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:46:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Don Wood" To: publib Subject: The Twelfth Conference on Computers, Freedom, and Privacy Message-ID: The Twelfth Conference on Computers, Freedom, and Privacy http://www.cfp2002.org/ "The Twelfth Conference on Computers, Freedom, and Privacy is to be held in San Francisco in April 2002. The conference organizers are requesting proposals for panel topics. Any member of the public can suggest a topic on issues including global activitism; technology and monopoly; voting technology and democracy; technology and weapons; ICANN and Internet governance; borders and censorship; digital divide; biometric systems; consumer privacy; wireless privacy and security; hacktivism; intellectual property and intellectual freedom; digital rights management and privacy; public records and private lives. CFP organizers are also soliciting papers on Digital Rights Management (DRM) technologies and the Fair Use doctrine." See also Draft Interpretation of the Library Bill of Rights on Privacy http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/draftprivacyinterpretation.html __________________________ Don Wood Program Officer/Communications American Library Association Office for Intellectual Freedom 50 East Huron Street Chicago, IL 60611 1-800-545-2433, ext. 4225 Fax: 312-280-4227 dwood@ala.org http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/ http://www.ala.org/cipa/cipalegalfund.html intellectual freedom @ your library Free People Read Freely® "Intellectual Freedom is the right of every individual to both seek and receive information from all points of view without restriction. It provides for free access to all expressions of ideas through which any and all sides of a question, cause or movement may be explored. Intellectual freedom encompasses the freedom to hold, receive and disseminate ideas."--Intellectual Freedom and Censorship Q & A http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/intellectualfreedomandcensorship.html ------------------------------ Topic No. 3 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:46:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Sandra Knes" To: publib Subject: Homework Centers Message-ID: I know many of you Publibbers are on your way to PLA but I thought I would toss this inquiry out today anyway. The Lakeland Library Cooperative in West Michigan is planning a workshop for our members on homeschoolers and homework centers. We have presenters from our cooperative for the homeschooling portion but nothing on homework centers. Do any of you have homework centers at your library? Where can we get informtion for a presentation? Is there anyone near Michigan that might be able to be part of the workshop? Any help will be appreciated. Enjoy the convention, maybe I'll make the next one! Sandie Sandra R. Knes Library Director Loutit District Library 407 Columbus Street Grand Haven MI 49417 616/842-5560 ext 212 gdhse@llcoop.org ------------------------------ Topic No. 4 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:06:46 -0800 (PST) From: Carrie Guarria To: publib Subject: Re: PUBLIB digest 1967 Message-ID: Hi, Judy. I have frequently ordered children's audiokits from Regent Books. The number is 1-800-999-9554. It seems to me that they specialize in the age group you are looking for although they do have kits for older as well. Carrie Guarria Lindenhurst Memorial Library 1 Lee Avenue Lindenhurst, NY 11757 > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:53:41 -0800 (PST) > From: "Judy Howington" > To: publib > Subject: Childrens book/audio kits > Message-ID: > > I need recommendations for publishers/suppliers of Children's book (either > paperback or hardback) and audiocassette kits in plastic hang bags. I > particularly need Beginning readers and books for that age group. We > already use Recorded Books. Thanks for the help. > > Judy Howington > Assistant Director > Tuscaloosa Public LIbrary > 1801 Jack Warner Parkway > Tuscaloosa, AL 35401 > ------------------------------ Topic No. 5 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:07:19 -0800 (PST) From: suekamm@mindspring.com To: publib Subject: Library card holders and voting Message-ID: The late, much lamented Marvin Scilken had some correlation between library card ownership and voting. One would have to search The U*N*A*B*A*S*H*E*D LIBRARIAN for a specific source for these data. Bill Manson wrote: Has anyone encountered statistics that compare library users' = probability of voting with non-library users' probability of voting? (Yes, the City Council and the Library have some funding issues.) Bill Manson Chief Librarian Cornwall Public Library Cornwall, Ontario "Baseball statistics are simplifications of much more complex = realities." -- Bill James ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* -- Your friendly CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor-at-large, Sue Kamm Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 Visit my home page: http://suekamm.home.mindspring.com/index.htm email: suekamm@mindspring.com "Good is not good when better is expected." -- Vin Scully ------------------------------ Topic No. 6 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:07:24 -0800 (PST) From: Carrie Guarria To: publib Subject: Children's Audiokits Message-ID: > > Hi, Judy. I have frequently ordered children's audiokits from Regent > Books. The number is 1-800-999-9554. It > seems to me that they specialize in the age group you are looking for > although they do have kits for older as well. > > Carrie Guarria > Lindenhurst Memorial Library > 1 Lee Avenue > Lindenhurst, NY 11757 > > > > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:53:41 -0800 (PST) > > From: "Judy Howington" > > To: publib > > Subject: Childrens book/audio kits > > Message-ID: > > > > I need recommendations for publishers/suppliers of Children's book (either > > paperback or hardback) and audiocassette kits in plastic hang bags. I > > particularly need Beginning readers and books for that age group. We > > already use Recorded Books. Thanks for the help. > > > > Judy Howington > > Assistant Director > > Tuscaloosa Public LIbrary > > 1801 Jack Warner Parkway > > Tuscaloosa, AL 35401 > > > > ------------------------------ Topic No. 7 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:07:28 -0800 (PST) From: Stephanie Poole To: publib Subject: Have you guys seen this? Message-ID: Hi guys. I don't know how many of you have seen this already but it was posted to Univ. of KY SLIS listserv and I thought I would pass it on to you all. It's not exactly a flattering portrait of Librarians and Library Science education. In fact, it really ticked me off. Maybe one of you guys can come up with a more articulate response to this than my "screw you!". Enjoy. Have a great weekend everyone! http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/printer.asp?ID=18860 Stephanie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Topic No. 8 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:07:33 -0800 (PST) From: Stephanie Beverage To: publib Subject: Re: damaged book replacement experiment Message-ID: This is in response to Terry Wirick's recent post, about experimenting with photocopied replacement pages in damaged books. I think you are looking at potential copyright enfringement here. I have just recently attended a workshop on copyright and have been reviewing copyright law, and what was requested - copying or scanning a few pages of the Dorling Kindersley title and then sending them onto another library is probably a violation of copyright. It meets some of the fair use criteria, but I know that my City Attorney would probably not look upon this favorably. Be careful in this arena - copyright is more complicated than ever and you don't want to initiate a practice that might get you into some nasty legal waters. Just my opinion.... Stephanie Beverage Library Director Alhambra Public Library 410 W. Main St. Alhambra, CA 91801 ------------------------------ Topic No. 9 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:07:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Laura Hayes" To: publib Subject: PLA REMINDER: Wanna bring some culture to your library? Message-ID: Then stop by the ALA Public Programs Office booth, visit our Table Talk sessions, or attend our PRIME TIME program at PLA's National Conference to learn more about developing and hosting cultural programs. ALA Public Programs Office - Booth #2813 Gather information about available grants and hosting traveling exhibitions, book and video discussion programs, author events, and pick up a FREE Jazz Appreciation Month poster. Open Wednesday, March 13 (4 - 6 p.m.), Thursday, March 14 (8:30 a.m. - 5 p.m.) and Friday, March 15 (8:30 a.m. - 4 p.m.). Planning Cultural Programs Through Community Partnerships Thursday, March 14, 2 p.m., in the Table Talk Area Working with community organizations to develop and promote cultural program series and events in your library can provide access to new programming opportunities, audiences and resources. ALA Public Programs Office staff members will help you assess your community's needs and identify and work with partners to create cultural programs for adults. The session will also cover resources available through the Public Programs Office. Finding Funding to Support Your Cultural Programs Friday, March 15, 8:30 a.m., in the Table Talk Area Learn how to get funds for your adult cultural program series and events from a variety of local and national funding sources. ALA Public Programs Office staff members will provide information about various funders, give you tips for writing a convincing proposal, and introduce you to resources available through the Public Programs Office. PRIME TIME Family Reading Time ® Friday, March 15, 2 - 3:15 p.m., Room: Prescott 6-7 Learn how this award-winning program brings a nontraditional audience of at-risk families with children aged 6-10 to public libraries for a six-week reading and discussion series based on children's books. Librarians will detail how parents and children bond around the act of reading and learning together, participate in humanities discussions, and learn to become active library users. The National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) funds this Louisiana Endowment for the Humanities (LEH) project. Presenters: Dianne Brady, LEH, Dana Eness, LEH, Karen McPheeters, Farmington Public Library (N.M.), Thomas Phelps, NEH, and Deb Robertson, ALA Public Programs Office. For more information on any of these programs, please visit www.ala.org/publicprograms/events . ALA Public Programs Office Linking Libraries, Communities and Culture www.ala.org/publicprograms ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Topic No. 10 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:07:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Purcell, Joyce" To: publib Subject: Summary - Staff with B.A. degrees at Reference Desk Message-ID: My thanks to all of you who replied to my query two weeks ago. The response was overwhelming; it's taken me this long to organize your replies into a readable summary. I wish I could include all the replies verbatim, but it would be more than our system can handle right now. Joyce Purcell Water & Power Library 111 N. Hope St. Room 516 Los Angeles, CA 90012 Voice (213) 367-1996 Fax (213) 367-5088 Joyce.Purcell@ladwp.com Judging from your replies, this is not a new development to cope with the shortage of MLS candidates; in some cases it has been going on for decades. LIBRARY SYSTEMS (by state) STAFFING REFERENCE DESKS WITH B.A. DEGREED STAFF AZ - Phoenix CA - Inglewood CA - Ventura County DE - New Castle County IN - Anderson IN - Lake County IA - Cedar Rapids IA - Grinnell LA - Baton Rouge MO - Jefferson County NY - Liverpool NY - Queens OH - Cuyahoga County TX - Dallas TX - Round Rock Ontario - Oakville These are the main issues that came up: RESPONSIBILITIES >From NY: The difference between Librarian Assistants and Librarians work is mostly in the scope of responsibilities. Librarian Assistants are trained to do a narrowly defined job and are supervised by librarians who deal with policies and the big picture. The positives are people who are grateful for their promotions and don't have so many other responsibilities that they resent spending their time on the Information Desk. >From AZ: Library Assistants receive training in how to conduct reference interviews and how to use reference materials and sources. They work the desk with Librarians (and sometimes without) to provide reference service. Librarians do all of the above Plus selection and serve on policy-making committees. Library Assistants with special talents and/or training and/or years of service may also serve on the committees. >From TX: There are several people in this classification in each Central Library division and at some branches. They do just about everything that librarians do, *except* supervising and collection development. >From TX: Yes, we do use non-MLS degreed staff who have Bachelor's Degrees and they have a higher pay range than the other clerks, though I think they should probably be a pay grade higher, just a grade below the MLS degreed librarian. The MLS degreed librarian is always there to help with the questions beyond basic web assistance and "where is this book" types of questions, which are easily 80% of the work done at the ref desk. The MLS degreed librarian also has other major responsibilities and more off desk time, e.g., develop the genealogy/local history collection, select and order material, and maintain the website. >From IN: our library for many years has hired persons with BA degrees to work at the Reference desk and in Children's services, not as quasi-librarians, but as assistants. They generally handle ready reference, readers' advisory, ILL, and support in their technology centers. Our feeling has been that the BA degree gives them a good general knowledge on which to build. These staff are not left alone as replacement librarians, but basically free-up time of the librarians. >From the Employment Opportunities web site at Queens Borough PL, NY: Library Assistants will be trained and participate in the following activities: Under direct supervision, provides ready reference service to children and young adults. Provides basic bibliographic and reference instruction. Assists in book talks, class and school visits. Provides customer service at the circulation desk Assists in other branch activities as needed. TRAINING >From IA: As far as reference work goes, new staff are given in house training and sent to workshops when they are available. While the first several months can be overwhelming for them, generally after the first year I would say that most are easily able to handle 70% of the questions, and after 3 years 90% of the questions. When they can't answer a question they call on other staff or on the director for the toughest ones. I have never had any advanced degree coursework, although over the 10 years I've been here I've attended many workshops and have done a lot of on the job learning. >From IN: Who will be training the people in this new classification? You, librarians? This training will take at least a year. If your library system is at all like ours, that means you'll be doing your present job, the job of the trainee until she is capable, AND training the trainee with no adjustment in staffing or pay. >From CA: Four people on our current staff were promoted to the newly-created position of library assistant. We're training these people to answer simple reference questions, but some of them don't have a lot of knowledge that professional staff has -- last night one of the trainees tried answering a question about the Code of Hammurabi, which he obviously had never heard of, and a request for Herman Hesse's Steppenwolf (which he'd also never heard of). SALARIES >From MA: If your library does hire non-librarians to do reference, it won't be long before they start asking for similar salaries to the librarians. The bottom-line is that people need livable salaries whether they have a Masters Degree or not. Librarian salaries were established along the lines of gender discrimation against women, and now people are starting to realize you can no longer discriminate on this basis. >From IN: When I first arrived, Paraprofessionals were looked down upon by Professional Librarians as glorified Clerks. As Professionals (especially in Children's Services) have become harder to come by and more expensive, Paraprofessionals were given more responsibilities (though, of course, not more pay). Recently "Paraprofessional" has been replaced by the term "Assistant Librarian", i.e., Librarian with even poorer pay than us. >From CA: In my system, there are Library Tech I's, II's, and III's. LTI requires an AA I believe; LTIII requires a B.A. All three work on the reference desks at our libraries. The LTIII's run small libraries. It's a money issue. More frequent lately is the promotion of LT II's and LT III's straight to Librarian and Senior Librarian ranks. That is due to a combination of the salary we offer, the dearth of MLS librarians, and the fact that the MLS is not required (the requirement was deleted several years ago by the county personnel department as not "required by the State"). It is also due to the fact that LT's do reference. CAREER PATH >From OH: We have Public Service Assts working at reference desks in every department and branch of Cuyahoga County Public Library. We have had them for more than 25 years. PSAs can only apply for a job for which they are qualified. When we advertise a Public Services Librarian position, it still requires a MLS. Many of our PSAs have decided to go to library school. When they have completed half the credits needed to graduate, they become PSA IIs and get a raise and can be the Person in Charge. When they graduate, they must apply for PSL positions--they do not automatically become librarians. There is no "career ladder" for PSAs unless they get a degree. Of course, they can apply for other PSA positions w/more hours or at another branch. >From MO: Our "children's librarian" and "reference librarians" hold only bachelors degrees. We simply cannot afford to hire an MLS to fill each position. We do however, encourage them to get their MLS, and the library offers tuition re-imbursement - we pay 1/2 of the tuition. >From IN: The state of Indiana has a Certification system which involves five classes in Librarianship. We require all new Paraprofessionals to be Certified at Level IV within 5 years. In the past, tests could be taken in lieu of the classes and Paraprofessionals could attain a Certificate III level which was the level a Professional fresh out of school automatically rated. Now, only Professionals educated in ALA accredited schools can have Level III, Level II, or Level I certification. >From the Queens Borough PL web page: The Library Assistant Program provides a unique opportunity for college graduates to work in the busiest and most innovative public library in the country to explore the exciting possibilities of a career in public librarianship. This temporary appointment is for a maximum of two years. Continued employment is contingent upon satisfactory evaluations and acceptance as a matriculated student in an accredited Masters of Library Science program after which appointment to the position of Librarian Trainee may take place. >From the ALA: This is a working document developed by the American Library Association and its Congress on Professional Education. http://www.ala.org/hrdr/lepu.pdf This report is about 10 pages long and is in pdf format (uses Acrobat Reader). It includes an important overview position on the stratification of positions in the library, including the qualifications and preparation for each and the essential tasks for each. It might provide a framework for examining the possibilities. FUTURE OF THE PROFESSION >From Ontario: The trend to put non librarians on reference is here to stay ... which says something about the degree and its future. >From Southern California: My assumption in your case would be that this is the camel's nose under the tent--you'll never get it out. ------------------------------ Topic No. 11 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:08:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Lytle,Amy" To: publib Subject: Announcement: "Steering By Standards" Videoconference Series Message-ID: Library systems and practices rely upon a growing array of technical standards designed to support all aspects of knowledge management. Often, new standards combine both imaginative thinking and technological innovation to produce new solutions for information managers and users. Understanding, influencing, planning for, and exploiting standards has never been more important--or more challenging--for libraries. The OCLC Institute is presenting "Steering by Standards," a series of three satellite videoconferences that will address key topics in the standards arena (http://www.oclc.org/institute/events/sbs.htm). The videoconference series includes: A New Harvest: Revealing Hidden Resources with the Open Archives Metadata Harvesting Protocol. Tuesday, March 26, 12:00 - 2:30 p.m. EST. Key Speaker: Herbert Van de Sompel The OAIS Imperative: Enduring Record or Digital Dust? Friday, April 19, 12:00 - 2:30 p.m. EST Key Speaker: Donald Sawyer Paper Past, Digital Future: Managing Metadata Standards in Transition. Wednesday, May 29, 12:00 - 2:30 p.m. EST Key Speaker: Barbara Tillett Site licenses are available at a discount for the 3-show series, or for single shows. All transmissions are via C-band satellite; a toll-free number will enable participants to interact with the experts and practitioners in the standards fields. For more information on obtaining a site license for this videoconference series, contact your OCLC Regional Network or the OCLC Institute at lytlea@oclc.org. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Topic No. 12 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:08:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Laskowski, Nancy" To: publib Subject: Fabulous Programs at PLA! Message-ID: There will be two fabulous programs at the 9th National PLA Conference in Phoenix next week presented by the Research and Statistics Committee. The first, Counting on Results, will be on Friday, March 15, at 8:30 a.m. in the Tucson 40-43 Room at the Phoenix Civic Plaza. The program will introduce you to some new tools for outcome-based evaluation of public libraries for specific service responses, including Palm software for collecting detailed output data. You'll hear about the experiences of more than 30 public libraries across the country that tested these new tools. Speakers include an expert in survey administration and research; a supervisor of computer and network services, collection development, and training in a public library; and a library problem-solver who has used a combination of marketing and geographical research in her customer-based approach. The second program, Collecting Statistics in the Networked Environment, with the catchy subtitle of "Implementing the New Public Library Performance Measures," will be on Saturday, March 16, at 8:30 a.m. (gotta love those early sessions!) in the Phoenix 16-20 Room at the Phoenix Civic Plaza. This program will provide you with a progress report on efforts to establish a set of nationwide performance measures for public library networked services. Speakers include a principal investigator in the IMLS-sponsored research project, a library administrator who is trying to collect the statistics, and a vendor representative who will report on efforts to meet library demand for statistics. More information is available at www.pla.org. We hope to see you in Phoenix at the programs! Nancy Laskowski Information Technology Division The Free Library of Philadelphia 1901 Vine Street Philadelphia, PA 19103-1189 215-686-7501 laskowskin@library.phila.gov ------------------------------ Topic No. 13 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:08:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Don Wood" To: publib Subject: National Library Week, April 14*20, 2002 Message-ID: National Library Week, April 14*20, 2002 https://cs.ala.org/@yourlibrary/nlw.cfm "National Library Week 2002 provides a wonderful opportunity for libraries of all types across the country to participate in @ your library, The Campaign for America's Libraries. More than 1,000 libraries nationwide have already embraced the campaign and its messages. They have found the campaign easy to implement on many different levels and universal in its scope and appeal." See also Omaha Public Library wins 2002 Grolier National Library Week Grant http://www.ala.org/news/v8n3/grolier.html __________________________ Don Wood Program Officer/Communications American Library Association Office for Intellectual Freedom 50 East Huron Street Chicago, IL 60611 1-800-545-2433, ext. 4225 Fax: 312-280-4227 dwood@ala.org http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/ http://www.ala.org/cipa/cipalegalfund.html intellectual freedom @ your library Free People Read Freely® "Intellectual Freedom is the right of every individual to both seek and receive information from all points of view without restriction. It provides for free access to all expressions of ideas through which any and all sides of a question, cause or movement may be explored. Intellectual freedom encompasses the freedom to hold, receive and disseminate ideas."--Intellectual Freedom and Censorship Q & A http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/intellectualfreedomandcensorship.html ------------------------------ Topic No. 14 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:08:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Don Wood" To: publib Subject: More on National Library Week, April 14*20, 2002 Message-ID: A link to the Public Information Office's site: National Library Week, April 14-20, 2002 http://www.ala.org/pio/nlw/ See also Omaha Public Library wins 2002 Grolier National Library Week Grant http://www.ala.org/news/v8n3/grolier.html National Library Week, April 14-20, 2002 https://cs.ala.org/@yourlibrary/nlw.cfm "National Library Week 2002 provides a wonderful opportunity for libraries of all types across the country to participate in @ your library, The Campaign for America's Libraries. More than 1,000 libraries nationwide have already embraced the campaign and its messages. They have found the campaign easy to implement on many different levels and universal in its scope and appeal." __________________________ Don Wood Program Officer/Communications American Library Association Office for Intellectual Freedom 50 East Huron Street Chicago, IL 60611 1-800-545-2433, ext. 4225 Fax: 312-280-4227 dwood@ala.org http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/ http://www.ala.org/cipa/cipalegalfund.html intellectual freedom @ your library Free People Read Freely® "Intellectual Freedom is the right of every individual to both seek and receive information from all points of view without restriction. It provides for free access to all expressions of ideas through which any and all sides of a question, cause or movement may be explored. Intellectual freedom encompasses the freedom to hold, receive and disseminate ideas."--Intellectual Freedom and Censorship Q & A http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/intellectualfreedomandcensorship.html ------------------------------ Topic No. 15 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:08:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Gordon Flagg" To: publib Subject: News stories appearing in the March 11 American Libraries Message-ID: News stories appearing in the March 11 American Libraries Online > Americans Believe Free Access Essential, Says Study of Gates Foundation Program > Former Catholic University SLIS Dean Elizabeth Stone Dies > LC Battles Donor over Rand Manuscript Pages > More Water Damage at Canada's National Library > Hennepin Reverts to Standard Cataloging > Arson Fire Damages Minnesota High School Library > Family-Diversity Program Stirs Spat in Connecticut > Accused Library Hacker Pleads Not Guilty American Libraries' Web site also features the latest "Crawford Files" columns by Walt Crawford; "Internet Librarian" by Karen Schneider; "Technically Speaking" by David Dorman; AL's "Career Leads" job ads; listings of conferences, continuing-education courses, exhibitions, and other events from AL's "Datebook"; and Tables of Contents for the current year. Do you have a comment to make about anything appearing in American Libraries? The editors encourage signed e-mail letters on recent content or matters of general interest to the library profession in the Reader Forum section. Send 250 words or less to americanlibraries@ala.org. ------------------------------ Topic No. 16 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:32:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Karen G. Schneider" To: publib Subject: Program at PLA: Free Range Library Service Message-ID: Free Range Library Service: Wherever You Go, There We Are Friday, March 15, 10:30 a.m. Room: Tucson 36-39 Four Internet pioneers with great experience in delivering Web and online reference services will share their stories about how they started their free, online, library-based services, who they serve, how they fund and maintain their resources, and future directions of their projects. Panelists: Rebecca Cawley of Michigan Electronic Library; Susan McGlamary of 24/7; Julie Mason of INFOMINE; Karen G. Schneider of Librarians' Index to the Internet Hope to see you there! ---------------------------------------------- Karen G. Schneider kgs@lii.org http://lii.org Coordinator, Librarians' Index to the Internet lii.org New This Week: http://lii.org/ntw lii.org: Information You Can Trust! ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Topic No. 17 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:33:07 -0800 (PST) From: suekamm@mindspring.com To: publib Subject: Re: Have you guys seen this? Message-ID: The student who wrote this put a response on an LIS website. Here's the URL: http://www.lisnews.com/article.php3?sid=20020308125444&mode=flat Students in the information studies program have been calling and leaving him messages expressing their anger, etc. Stephanie Poole wrote: Hi guys. I don't know how many of you have seen this already but it was posted to Univ. of KY SLIS listserv and I thought I would pass it on to you all. It's not exactly a flattering portrait of Librarians and Library Science education. In fact, it really ticked me off. Maybe one of you guys can come up with a more articulate response to this than my "screw you!". Enjoy. Have a great weekend everyone! http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/printer.asp?ID=18860 Stephanie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- Your friendly CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor-at-large, Sue Kamm Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 Visit my home page: http://suekamm.home.mindspring.com/index.htm email: suekamm@mindspring.com "Good is not good when better is expected." -- Vin Scully ------------------------------ End of PUBLIB Digest 1969 ************************* From pigdog at crackmonkey.org Sat Mar 9 09:04:29 2002 From: pigdog at crackmonkey.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Piecepack Design Competition! Message-ID: <87vgc5n04i.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Piecepack design contest! ~Mr. Bad ---8<--- Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 17:18:48 -0000 From: "jdroscha" Subject: One More Week for Design Competition Greetings All, This is just a reminder that entries for my piecepack ruleset design competition are due in a week (15 March 2002). For all the details, please refer to the original post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/piecepack/message/261 Thanks, James ---8<--- -- Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ From sneakums at zork.net Sat Mar 9 11:36:06 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] A little prayer, and some unadulterated horror Message-ID: <6ug039pm8p.fsf@zork.zork.net> Now I lay me down to sleep I pray apt /var/cache/apt/archives to keep And if I'm purged before I wake I pray dpkg its time to take -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:01:49 -0600 (CST) From: Jor-el To: debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: [RFC] Debian skin for AIX [With apologies for the cross-posting, but I think that in this case it is warranted] Hi, I have been working on a port of dpkg to AIX and have come across some issues which need resolving. This email will attempt to document my various thoughts on the matter in the hope that a useful discussion will result on how to solve these problems. Facts : 1. AIX system administration tools can sometimes have serious failures if the GNU tools are in the PATH for root ahead of the AIX supplied version of such utilities. 2. AIX versions of common utilities are sometimes feature-wise braindead (AIX make is a prime example) or differ in subtle ways from the GNU versions of the utilities - different enough to cause build problems. The problems arising from the above two facts are : a. The GNU utilities cannot replace the AIX utilities in all cases as root would need the AIX version of the utilities. Thus the two versions would have to co-exist on the same system. The AIX toolbox distributed by IBM has solved this problem by placing the files under /usr/linux wherever a Redhat Linux install would place the file under /usr . For Debian, /etc/alternatives would have to know about this. Would the change in paths conflict with anything in Debian policy? b. The AIX package database is called the ODM (sorry - you'll have to ask someone who knows, what it stands for) and contains details of files installed via the AIX installer. The dpkg database needs to be able to read that information and be capable of accepting AIX programs as an alternative to dependencies. For example, PERL is distributed as part of AIX proper and also as part of the toolbox. If there is a Debian package that depends on PERL, and if the AIX PERL is installed, then the Debian installer needs to recognize that the dependancy has been met. Build and bootstrap issues : a. In order to make the port useful, one would have to package up the dpkg tools into an AIX package that the native installer can install. Is this something that could be placed on the Debian site? b. Some of the dpkg tools depend on the output from gcc and the gcc that I am using is the one available via the AIX toolbox (which is built by Cygnus / Redhat for IBM). I've already noted some AIX-isms from the gcc output (for example - the output of 'gcc --print-libgcc-file-name') but am not sure whether this these are Redhat-isms - in which case a Debian port of gcc to AIX might be required before dpkg in order to make things "right". c. Since I dont have access to an ia64 system, I cant tell if the port will have problems running under 64-bit AIX. d. The AIX port of GNUpg (needed for signing a package) is on rather shaky grounds. The build that I did of this program so that I could excercise dpkg functions, complains that I am 'using insecure memory' - whatever that means. The program appears to work, but given that I am not a security expert, I cant tell if it is working to spec. e. Before IBM started distributing the AIX toolbox, the main source of GNU utilities for AIX used to be the Bull site. These packages install themselves in /usr/local and work fine but I consider the IBM packages to be of superior quality and am using these packages for the bootstrapping. People who do not have root access on their AIX systems and who wish to contribute to the port may have problems if their system administrator prefers the Bull packages..... Program feature problems : a. Tools like 'sudo' (which is needed to use dpkg-buildpackage) dont understand DCE authentication. This restricts the type of userid a builder could use on an AIX system. Havent tried building 'fakeroot' yet.... Comments, concerns, advise are welcome. Jor-el -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org -------------------- End of forwarded message -------------------- -- i know why it looks so weird ...other than the fact that his head is floating From justin-cm at soze.net Sat Mar 9 11:53:15 2002 From: justin-cm at soze.net (Justin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] A little prayer, and some unadulterated horror In-Reply-To: <6ug039pm8p.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6ug039pm8p.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020309195315.GA19395@kobayashi.soze.net> commence quote 2002-03-09 19:36 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Sean Neakums > Program feature problems : > > a. Tools like 'sudo' (which is needed to use dpkg-buildpackage) dont > understand DCE authentication. This restricts the type of userid a builder > could use on an AIX system. Havent tried building 'fakeroot' yet.... Isn't that one of the reasons to use PAM? -- Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From nick at zork.net Sun Mar 10 00:45:53 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! Message-ID: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/ttl.htm Lots of info on TTL variants and their characteristics. I just bought a bunch of used books on TTL designs and stuff from Powell's. Jameco sells a TTL kit with refill bags for pretty cheap: https://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdCT/p048.pdf (the 74LS series are the interesting ones). The cafe next door to me has this book: http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=62-0132091984-1 and I covet it deeply. They have the 1985 edition that talks about z80 and cpm as if these things were the NEWEST ISH ON THE BLOCK. I found it for like $4.50 but it was through some podunk bookstore in virginia and I wasn't that interested. I'll just eat more falafel and read about UARTs and DRAM. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From schoen at loyalty.org Sun Mar 10 01:29:23 2002 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> Nick Moffitt writes: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/ttl.htm > > Lots of info on TTL variants and their characteristics. I just bought > a bunch of used books on TTL designs and stuff from Powell's. > > Jameco sells a TTL kit with refill bags for pretty cheap: > https://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdCT/p048.pdf (the 74LS > series are the interesting ones). You can get a lot of the Jameco bags at Al Lasher's in Berkeley (on University, not really further from the Berkeley BART than your house is from 24th Street). The Jameco bags are a lot cheaper than Radio Shack, maybe because (it seems) they are mainly used or surplus components. I want to make that trip to HSC I was promising on seth-trips. How is the 23rd? -- Seth David Schoen | Reading is a right, not a feature! http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | -- Kathryn Myronuk http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Mar 10 11:01:57 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020310190157.GA4515@zork.net> begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > > Jameco sells a TTL kit with refill bags for pretty cheap: > > https://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdCT/p048.pdf (the 74LS > > series are the interesting ones). > > You can get a lot of the Jameco bags at Al Lasher's in Berkeley (on > University, not really further from the Berkeley BART than your house > is from 24th Street). The Jameco bags are a lot cheaper than Radio > Shack, maybe because (it seems) they are mainly used or surplus > components. I'm not talking about random grab-bags. Your bags typically had a bunch of HCT chips in them, which I don't like. The refill bags are an ordered set of LS chips. They compliment the box sets. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Mar 10 11:09:39 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020310190939.GC4515@zork.net> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/ Who needs a TTL book? He's got pinouts! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From schoen at loyalty.org Sun Mar 10 11:51:57 2002 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <20020310190157.GA4515@zork.net> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> <20020310190157.GA4515@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020310195157.GM15918@zork.net> Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: > begin The ASCII Floating Head of Seth David Schoen quotation: > > > > You can get a lot of the Jameco bags at Al Lasher's in Berkeley (on > > University, not really further from the Berkeley BART than your house > > is from 24th Street). The Jameco bags are a lot cheaper than Radio > > Shack, maybe because (it seems) they are mainly used or surplus > > components. > > I'm not talking about random grab-bags. Your bags typically > had a bunch of HCT chips in them, which I don't like. I don't like HCT either, so you have a good point. -- Seth David Schoen | Reading is a right, not a feature! http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | -- Kathryn Myronuk http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | From joakim at ximian.com Sun Mar 10 12:34:14 2002 From: joakim at ximian.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <20020310190939.GC4515@zork.net> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> <20020310190939.GC4515@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 13:09, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/ > > Who needs a TTL book? He's got pinouts! It used to be that companies selling TTLs would send you a free catalog, a rather thick book which dedicated half a page to one page to each part number, these also had the pinouts and specs in them. I don't know if they still do that, though. -- Joakim Ziegler - Ximian Engineer - joakim@ximian.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - Free Software Coder - Writer - FIDEL & Conglomerate hacker http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.ximian.com/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Mar 10 12:34:28 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> <20020310190939.GC4515@zork.net> <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20020310203428.GD4515@zork.net> begin Joakim Ziegler quotation: > It used to be that companies selling TTLs would send you a free > catalog, a rather thick book which dedicated half a page to one page > to each part number, these also had the pinouts and specs in them. I > don't know if they still do that, though. Well, Seth used to use my TI TTL book to identify parts from his grab-bags. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sneakums at zork.net Sun Mar 10 12:37:23 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Joakim Ziegler's message of "10 Mar 2002 14:34:14 -0600") References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> <20020310190939.GC4515@zork.net> <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6uofhwkvlo.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Joakim Ziegler quotation: > On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 13:09, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San > Francisco wrote: >> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/ >> >> Who needs a TTL book? He's got pinouts! > > It used to be that companies selling TTLs would send you a free catalog, > a rather thick book which dedicated half a page to one page to each part > number, these also had the pinouts and specs in them. I don't know if > they still do that, though. Many years ago, I found such a book at the landfill, along with a broken Victor 9000 and a HP Intrumentation catalogue. It was a NatSemi book, as I recall. It smelled funny, so I threw it out, and the Victor was just a bunch of boards I lacked the skill to do anything with, so that went too. I still have the HP catalogue, though. -- "Wild animals are beautiful because they have hard lives." -- Paul Graham From carton at Ivy.NET Sun Mar 10 12:47:33 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <20020310195157.GM15918@zork.net>; from schoen@loyalty.org on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 11:51:57AM -0800 References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> <20020310190157.GA4515@zork.net> <20020310195157.GM15918@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020310134733.A23969@sakima.ivy.net> http://sdcc.sourceforge.net/ From jdub at perkypants.org Sun Mar 10 13:57:42 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <6uofhwkvlo.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> <20020310190939.GC4515@zork.net> <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6uofhwkvlo.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020310215741.GD24057@perkypants.org> > Many years ago, I found such a book at the landfill, along with a broken > Victor 9000 and a HP Intrumentation catalogue. It was a NatSemi book, as > I recall. It smelled funny, so I threw it out, and the Victor was just a > bunch of boards I lacked the skill to do anything with, so that went too. > I still have the HP catalogue, though. 500 miles to school! Through the snow! - Jeff -- "World domination is a community responsibility." - Michael Hall, LinuxPlanet From schoen at loyalty.org Sun Mar 10 18:28:21 2002 From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> <20020310190939.GC4515@zork.net> <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20020311022821.GH1490@zork.net> Joakim Ziegler writes: > On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 13:09, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San > Francisco wrote: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/ > > > > Who needs a TTL book? He's got pinouts! > > It used to be that companies selling TTLs would send you a free catalog, > a rather thick book which dedicated half a page to one page to each part > number, these also had the pinouts and specs in them. I don't know if > they still do that, though. Printed versions of databooks may be obtained by contacting the Texas Instruments Literature Response Center at 1-800-477-8924, or by contacting your local distributor. I've always been too chicken to call them. -- Seth David Schoen | Reading is a right, not a feature! http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | -- Kathryn Myronuk http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/ | From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sun Mar 10 19:18:31 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TTL is FUN! In-Reply-To: <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20020310084553.GQ10483@zork.net> <20020310092923.GH15918@zork.net> <20020310190939.GC4515@zork.net> <1015792511.1565.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20020311031831.GB18869@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Joakim Ziegler quotation: > On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 13:09, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San > Francisco wrote: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~ganswijk/chipdir/ > > > > Who needs a TTL book? He's got pinouts! > > It used to be that companies selling TTLs would send you a free catalog, > a rather thick book which dedicated half a page to one page to each part > number, these also had the pinouts and specs in them. I don't know if > they still do that, though. Last time I got TTLs mail order, they sent me a printout of the first page of the relevent datasheet (the one with the pinouts and maybe I/O values). - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8jCIFjLHcIq3dHxYRAlDtAJ9KV3DnPSo4eOJKkuwLnCQA3mWmXACg/vCd Cz3py/QH5rGcrxeUCnM30vM= =RTi0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmorris at intercode.com.au Sun Mar 10 20:38:19 2002 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Point of order. Message-ID: It's not Unix unless there's a man page. Full stop. Period. The End. - James (being opressed by proprietary software garbage, and I *don't* mean Not-Pine. Thank you). -- James Morris From joakim at ximian.com Sun Mar 10 21:01:33 2002 From: joakim at ximian.com (Joakim Ziegler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Point of order. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1015822952.11290.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 22:38, James Morris wrote: > It's not Unix unless there's a man page. Full stop. Period. The End. Thus, it makes perfect sense that GNU's Not Unix, since it uses Info pages rather than man pages. -- Joakim Ziegler - Ximian Engineer - joakim@ximian.com - Radagast@IRC FIX sysop - Free Software Coder - Writer - FIDEL & Conglomerate hacker http://www.avmaria.com/ - http://www.ximian.com/ From sneakums at zork.net Mon Mar 11 01:09:35 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Point of order. In-Reply-To: <1015822952.11290.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Joakim Ziegler's message of "10 Mar 2002 23:01:33 -0600") References: <1015822952.11290.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6uk7sjlbcg.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Joakim Ziegler quotation: > X-Mail-Format-Warning: Bad RFC822 header formatting in In-Reply-To: > > X-Mail-Format-Warning: Bad RFC822 header formatting in References: > I've been seeing these a lot lately, and it only seems to happen when tabs are used to delimit the header and its value, which I dimly recall as being as valid in RFC822. Does anyone know what's inserting this shit? I suspected exim, but a 'strings' of its binary doesn't reveal X-Mail-Format-Warning. And the remote MTA has been both qmail and postfix in various, so unless there's some kind of biggest-asshole competition going on, I don't see how they could both be doing it. It's really pissing me off. -- "Love Big Brother." -- Eamon de Valera From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Mar 11 04:32:30 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Point of order. In-Reply-To: <6uk7sjlbcg.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <1015822952.11290.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6uk7sjlbcg.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020311123229.GG1709@perkypants.org> > commence Joakim Ziegler quotation: > > > X-Mail-Format-Warning: Bad RFC822 header formatting in In-Reply-To: > > > > X-Mail-Format-Warning: Bad RFC822 header formatting in References: > > > > It's really pissing me off. Something on your end? I have none of these headers. - Jeff -- "From my observation, when it comes to porting Linux to a particular device, a point doesn't appear to be necessary." - mpt From sneakums at zork.net Mon Mar 11 04:50:19 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Point of order. In-Reply-To: <20020311123229.GG1709@perkypants.org> (Jeff Waugh's message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:32:30 +1100") References: <1015822952.11290.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6uk7sjlbcg.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020311123229.GG1709@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <6u6643l14k.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Jeff Waugh quotation: > >> commence Joakim Ziegler quotation: >> > X-Mail-Format-Warning: Bad RFC822 header formatting in In-Reply-To: >> > >> > X-Mail-Format-Warning: Bad RFC822 header formatting in References: >> > >> >> It's really pissing me off. > > Something on your end? I have none of these headers. Gar gar gar. I had previously "eliminated" Spamassassin from my investigation because I observed hits on tests that look for missing headers; the very headers that were being mangled as above. But I just grepped the spamassassin code, and it *is* the culprit. Its parse_headers routine barfs on tabs, which are allowed by both RFC8222 and RFC2822. I shall file a bug. -- "Snap into position; bounce 'til you ache!" -- Eamon de Valera From sneakums at zork.net Mon Mar 11 05:12:48 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Point of order. In-Reply-To: <6u6643l14k.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:50:19 +0000") References: <1015822952.11290.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6uk7sjlbcg.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020311123229.GG1709@perkypants.org> <6u6643l14k.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <6u1yerl033.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Sean Neakums quotation: > Gar gar gar. I had previously "eliminated" Spamassassin from my > investigation because I observed hits on tests that look for missing > headers; the very headers that were being mangled as above. But I > just grepped the spamassassin code, and it *is* the culprit. Its > parse_headers routine barfs on tabs, which are allowed by both > RFC8222[sic] and RFC2822. > > I shall file a bug. Beaujolais! It has already been reported and fixed. Bug#131442, fixed in version 2.10-1. -- "What good is respect without the moolah to back it up? Everywhere I go I see teachers driving Ferraris, research scientists drinking champagne. I tried to drink a Coke on the bus, and they took away my pass!" -- Emad El-Haraty From sneakums at zork.net Mon Mar 11 08:31:04 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Canadia proposes $21/G levy on portable MP3 players Message-ID: <6uofhvjcc7.fsf@zork.zork.net> http://www.cb-cda.gc.ca/tariffs/proposed/c09032002-b.pdf See page 7, under "Levy" 3 (g). Apparently, making private copies of other people's CDs is not illegal under Canadian law, "hence"[0] the levies. (via MeFi) [0] No logic was used in the deployment of this word. -- "WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHAAAAAAAAA!!! I'M CRAAAAAZY SIGGMUNDD!!!! GAR!!! GAR!!! GAR!!! GAR!!! GAR!!! NEE'ME S'MORE O'THAT SHIT!" -- mike dillon From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 11 18:54:07 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] I have a bacon number, but the oracleofbacon doesn't help me! Message-ID: <20020312025407.GG29244@zork.net> http://us.imdb.com/Name?Moffitt,+Nick http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon%2C+Kevin&game=1&secondname=Nick+Moffitt I'm really mad now. I hope that stinky oracle updates my bacon number, because I should have a number of 3 thanks to this new path that just appeared: http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon%2C+Kevin&game=1&secondname=brian+behlendorf > The Oracle says: brian behlendorf has a Bacon number of 3. > > Brian Behlendorf was in Revolution OS (2001) with Susan Egan > Susan Egan was in Hercules (1997) with Keith (I) David > Keith (I) David was in Novocaine (2001) with Kevin Bacon r0r! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 11 22:11:08 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [reynolds@cs.duke.edu: Re: Hubris] Message-ID: <20020312061107.GO29244@zork.net> Patrick Reynolds is the mantis! ----- Forwarded message from Patrick Reynolds ----- > But I'm not in the oracle, despite being in Revolution OS along with > BOTH Brian Behlendorf AND Susan Egan. Is there some reason why this > works: The IMDb publishes its database on a weekly basis, and the Oracle gets those updates whenever the fancy strikes me. So the Oracle lags by $RANDOM + a week. In the last update, the cast (as it were) of Revolution OS consisted only of Bruce Perens and Brian Behlendorf. You, Linus, ESR, Rob Malda, Susan Egan, and the rest have all been added in since then. You'll get Bacon numbers the next time I update the Oracle. That'd be now, but the UVA CS web staff appears to have changed their password without telling me. > I know it's incredibly silly to be doing this, but I have to brag to > all my friends about my bacon number of three! Soon, soon. I'll let you know. Any idea who this creature is? http://us.imdb.com/Name?GNU/Stallmans,+The --Patrick ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 11 22:13:54 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020312061354.GP29244@zork.net> FUck off. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- gzw@rogers.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Mon Mar 11 22:37:03 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020312063703.GS29244@zork.net> finally figured out procmail, eh? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- justin-cm@soze.net has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- justin@soze.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From justin at soze.net Mon Mar 11 22:50:42 2002 From: justin at soze.net (Chancellor of the Republic) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020312063703.GS29244@zork.net> References: <20020312063703.GS29244@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020312065042.GA31330@kobayashi.soze.net> commence quote 2002-03-12 06:37 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Nick Moffitt > finally figured out procmail, eh? No, I've simply given up playing games with email address extensions in an attempt to discover where spammers get the address. -- Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From magnus at bodin.org Tue Mar 12 02:30:16 2002 From: magnus at bodin.org (Magnus Bodin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] moahaha: XP-nuke Message-ID: <20020312103016.GL29695@bodin.org> The latest XP-nuke (and mswin2k nuke) is now spreading. It's actually a MSIE-hole. And it's quite bad. THE ATTACHED HTML-code is served as a jpeg-file, and as MSIE ignores the Content-Type if it "thinks" it knows better, then the code is executed. This in combination with the malicious code that is possible to run, then a "innocent.jpg" with the following content will log off an XP-user. --%< cut here----- IE6 security... You should feel lucky if you dont have XP right now. --%< cut here----- -- magnus MICROS~1 BOB was written in Lisp. http://x42.com/ From pedro at tastytronic.net Tue Mar 12 09:08:52 2002 From: pedro at tastytronic.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels Message-ID: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> Strangeness in the Midwest: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0203120291mar12.story -- "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by read'n The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." -- Will Rogers From justin at soze.net Tue Mar 12 09:22:26 2002 From: justin at soze.net (Chancellor of the Republic) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] moahaha: XP-nuke In-Reply-To: <20020312103016.GL29695@bodin.org> References: <20020312103016.GL29695@bodin.org> Message-ID: <20020312172226.GB31330@kobayashi.soze.net> commence quote 2002-03-12 10:30 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Magnus Bodin > var programName=new Array( > 'c:/windows/system32/logoff.exe', > 'c:/winxp/system32/logoff.exe', > 'c:/winnt/system32/logoff.exe' > ); Oh, but 'shutdown -s -t 5 -f -c "your upgrade to bsd linux is ready"' is so much more fun. Does anyone have distribution plots of how fast windows users can get to a cmd shell and type "shutdown -a"? I want about 99% containment. -- Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From mr.bad at pigdog.org Tue Mar 12 08:24:41 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mr. Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Point of order. In-Reply-To: <20020311123229.GG1709@perkypants.org> (Jeff Waugh's message of "Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:32:30 +1100") References: <1015822952.11290.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6uk7sjlbcg.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020311123229.GG1709@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <87elipoit2.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh writes: SN> It's really pissing me off. JW> Something on your end? I have none of these headers. I believe they are coming directly out of his end, actually, as I don't see these headers, either. Then again, I'm on digest. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 12 09:38:09 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> Message-ID: <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> begin Uncle Pedro quotation: > Strangeness in the Midwest: > > http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0203120291mar12.story Beaujolais! You've gotta love it when an article starts like this: > A Wisconsin computer worker who dubbed himself Dr. Chaos was charged > Monday with possessing a chemical weapon after authorities found a > cache of cyanide in a CTA Blue Line subway tunnel in the heart of > the Loop. Like, this could only have been better if they had said "A *disfigured* Wisconsin computer worker..." or "A Wisconsin computer worker previously presumed dead...". That, or if the byline were Lois Lane or something. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Tue Mar 12 09:40:18 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Point of order. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:24:41 CST." <87elipoit2.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <1015822952.11290.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6uk7sjlbcg.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020311123229.GG1709@perkypants.org> <87elipoit2.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <200203121740.g2CHeIPX030067@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:24:41 CST, "Mr. Bad" said: > Then again, I'm on digest. What variety of pharmaceutical is THAT? From elharaty at zork.net Tue Mar 12 09:47:40 2002 From: elharaty at zork.net (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020312174740.GD17977@zork.net> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > > Like, this could only have been better if they had said "A > *disfigured* Wisconsin computer worker..." or "A Wisconsin computer > worker previously presumed dead...". That, or if the byline were Lois > Lane or something. yeah I'd have prefered a better headline than the one they had. Something like: "Dr. Chaos and Sidekick foiled" and maybe some shots of him in his costume. -- Emad El-Haraty E / If you can't beat them, M\/ arrange to have them beaten. A\/ D From pedro at tastytronic.net Tue Mar 12 09:49:50 2002 From: pedro at tastytronic.net (Peter A. Peterson II) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020312174740.GD17977@zork.net> References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> <20020312174740.GD17977@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020312114950.Q4646@tastytronic.net> Quoting Emad El-Haraty: > yeah I'd have prefered a better headline than the one they had. > Something like: "Dr. Chaos and Sidekick foiled" and maybe some shots > of him in his costume. Well, they woulnd't have known anything if a long-haired caped crusader hadn't made an anonymous tip and then disappeared, letting the authorities take all the credit. Ahem. pedro -- "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by read'n The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." -- Will Rogers From holo at ob1.beadpainter.org Tue Mar 12 09:56:08 2002 From: holo at ob1.beadpainter.org (ronnie) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020312105608.A30047@ob1.beadpainter.org> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:38:09AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Uncle Pedro quotation: > > Strangeness in the Midwest: > > > > http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0203120291mar12.story > > Beaujolais! You've gotta love it when an article starts like this: > > A Wisconsin computer worker who dubbed himself Dr. Chaos was charged > > Monday with possessing a chemical weapon after authorities found a > > cache of cyanide in a CTA Blue Line subway tunnel in the heart of > > the Loop. > > Like, this could only have been better if they had said "A > *disfigured* Wisconsin computer worker..." or "A Wisconsin computer > worker previously presumed dead...". That, or if the byline were Lois > Lane or something. > Where are the Vigilante Super Heroes when you need them? -- rh From elharaty at zork.net Tue Mar 12 09:57:33 2002 From: elharaty at zork.net (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020312114950.Q4646@tastytronic.net> References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> <20020312174740.GD17977@zork.net> <20020312114950.Q4646@tastytronic.net> Message-ID: <20020312175733.GA1970@zork.net> begin Peter A. Peterson II quotation: > > Well, they woulnd't have known anything if a long-haired caped > crusader hadn't made an anonymous tip and then disappeared, letting > the authorities take all the credit. Ahem. > Fabio wears a cape now? -- Emad El-Haraty E / If you can't beat them, M\/ arrange to have them beaten. A\/ D From claviola at alternex.com.br Tue Mar 12 11:14:21 2002 From: claviola at alternex.com.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] I have a bacon number, but the oracleofbacon doesn't help me! In-Reply-To: <20020312025407.GG29244@zork.net> References: <20020312025407.GG29244@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020312191421.GB19843@alternex.com.br> On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 06:54:07PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://us.imdb.com/Name?Moffitt,+Nick Popular bastard. -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From justin at soze.net Tue Mar 12 11:22:21 2002 From: justin at soze.net (Chancellor of the Republic) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] I have a bacon number, but the oracleofbacon doesn't help me! In-Reply-To: <20020312191421.GB19843@alternex.com.br> References: <20020312025407.GG29244@zork.net> <20020312191421.GB19843@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <20020312192221.GD31330@kobayashi.soze.net> commence quote 2002-03-12 19:14 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Carlos Laviola > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 06:54:07PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > http://us.imdb.com/Name?Moffitt,+Nick > > Popular bastard. Get even. Vote the movie down. -- Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From linky at see.figure1.net Tue Mar 12 11:38:54 2002 From: linky at see.figure1.net (Jason Lindquist) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:38:09AM -0800 References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020312113854.A10436@babylon5.figure1.net> In our last episode, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco expounded: > Like, this could only have been better if they had said "A > *disfigured* Wisconsin computer worker..." or "A Wisconsin computer > worker previously presumed dead...". That, or if the byline were Lois > Lane or something. Nah, Lois Lane writes for the Sun Times. -- Jason Lindquist <*> linky@see.figure1.net KB9LCL From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Mar 12 13:41:24 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Jeff Minter Message-ID: What is Jeff Minter up to these days? The Yak pages seems to be gone and I fail to discover Jeff Minter's current wherabouts with Google. I guess he might have gone sheeping, but if someone knows I figure that person must be on Crackmonkey. Regards Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 12 13:51:40 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Jeff Minter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020312215140.GB26060@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > The Yak pages seems to be gone and I fail to discover Jeff Minter's > current wherabouts with Google. I guess he might have gone sheeping, > but if someone knows I figure that person must be on Crackmonkey. http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:maBlpHmKjvIC:www.magicnet.net/~yak/gnugnus.htm+jeff+minter&hl=en says: > 3/1/2002 > > Out On My Arse > > Flossie says: Baaaa-llocks :-(. > > Okay, now I can finally talk about it. The main reason that this > page hasn't been updated for bloody ages is because things have been > dodgy at VM Labs for some time now, and although I have known about > it, I haven't been able to say anything publically. Also, doing > updates requires a certain degree of ehthusiasm, and it's been > bloody hard to get enthusiastic about anything when you don't know > if any of the stuff you're working on is ever going to see the light > of day. and it all directs you toward http://www.enormouscamel.freeserve.co.uk/ He seems to have kept the llamasoft.co.uk domain around for his own use. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Mar 12 14:08:52 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Jeff Minter In-Reply-To: <20020312215140.GB26060@zork.net> References: Message-ID: At 13.51 -0800 02-03-12, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >and it all directs you toward >http://www.enormouscamel.freeserve.co.uk/ Hover Bovver for the Ipaq?! Gosh, I never knew I had to get one of those. Thanks! M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From jdub at perkypants.org Tue Mar 12 16:12:23 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020312105608.A30047@ob1.beadpainter.org> References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> <20020312105608.A30047@ob1.beadpainter.org> Message-ID: <20020313001223.GB2560@perkypants.org> > Where are the Vigilante Super Heroes when you need them? Making Gimped-up Emad pages. - Jeff -- "They are, as I told Telsa, all very small cheques. Indeed our cheques only come in one size, otherwise cheque books would be far too hard to manufacture." - Alan Cox From justin at soze.net Tue Mar 12 16:27:02 2002 From: justin at soze.net (Chancellor of the Republic) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020313001223.GB2560@perkypants.org> References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> <20020312105608.A30047@ob1.beadpainter.org> <20020313001223.GB2560@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020313002702.GA1197@kobayashi.soze.net> commence quote 2002-03-13 00:12 +0000 (authenticity not guaranteed) by Jeff Waugh > > > > Where are the Vigilante Super Heroes when you need them? > > Making Gimped-up Emad pages. Okay now this xml/whatever quoting nonsense is starting to annoy me; if you're going to use xml or whatever markup language you intend it to be, please do it properly. There'd better be matching closing tags, and the whole document better be marked up. That's right, those mail headers better have tags. I don't want partially-xml, partially-text, partially-">"'d, partially-html messages. And SWEET JESUS, don't use > quoting and markup tags in the same message.* * Exceptions will be granted for arguably non-markup stuff like , etc. -- Nature has made up her mind that | None learned the art of archery what cannot defend itself shall | from me who did not make me, in the not be defended. --Ralph Emerson | end, the target. --Saadi of Shiraz From inkblot at movealong.org Tue Mar 12 17:01:10 2002 From: inkblot at movealong.org (The Right Honorable and Most Noble Archduke of Chicago) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cyanide in the CTA Tunnels In-Reply-To: <20020313002702.GA1197@kobayashi.soze.net> References: <20020312110852.P4646@tastytronic.net> <20020312173809.GW29244@zork.net> <20020312105608.A30047@ob1.beadpainter.org> <20020313001223.GB2560@perkypants.org> <20020313002702.GA1197@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020313010110.GA8978@movealong.org> Quoting Chancellor of the Republic: > * Exceptions will be granted for arguably non-markup stuff like > , etc. Just make it a and all is well. -- --< ((\))< >----< inkblot@movealong.org >----< http://www.movealong.org/ >-- pub 1024D/05A058E0 2002-03-07 Nate Riffe (06-Mar-2002) Key fingerprint = 0DAC F5CB D182 3165 D757 C466 CD42 12A8 05A0 58E0 From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 12 17:22:33 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tractorgen Message-ID: <20020313012233.GA31093@zork.net> http://www.vergenet.net/~konradd/software/tractorgen/ > In keeping with this theorem, TRACTORGEN will politely inform the > user if any attempt to make tractors with less than four wheels is > made (by calling abort(2) and dumping core). -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Tue Mar 12 17:57:38 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] About the Author Message-ID: <20020313015738.GB31093@zork.net> http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5195784875.html > About the author: Don Marti is Editor in Chief of Embedded Linux > Journal and vice president of the Silicon Valley Linux Users Group. > He is item number eight in pigdog.org's "Things to Say When You're > Losing a Technical Argument". -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From tduffy at directvinternet.com Tue Mar 12 19:15:36 2002 From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Thomas Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [reynolds@cs.duke.edu: Re: Hubris] In-Reply-To: <20020312061107.GO29244@zork.net> References: <20020312061107.GO29244@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015989336.30857.4.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 22:11, Nick Moffitt wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Patrick Reynolds ----- > You, Linus, ESR, Rob Malda, Susan Egan, and the rest have all been ^^^ so, where is your celeb head shot, Nick?!?! only $35. what are you waiting for? -tduffy From tduffy at directvinternet.com Tue Mar 12 19:24:55 2002 From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Thomas Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] I have a bacon number, but the oracleofbacon doesn't help me! In-Reply-To: <20020312025407.GG29244@zork.net> References: <20020312025407.GG29244@zork.net> Message-ID: <1015989895.30858.9.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 18:54, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://us.imdb.com/Name?Moffitt,+Nick > > http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon%2C+Kevin&game=1&secondname=Nick+Moffitt > > I'm really mad now. I hope that stinky oracle updates my bacon > number, because I should have a number of 3 thanks to this new path > that just appeared: now, you can join the ranks of such people as: Sandra Day O'Connor http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon%2c+Kevin&game=1&secondname=O%27Connor%2c+Sandra+Day or Adolf Hitler http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon%2c+Kevin&game=1&secondname=Hitler%2c+Adolf -tduffy From tduffy at directvinternet.com Tue Mar 12 19:50:41 2002 From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Thomas Duffy) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] I have a bacon number, but the oracleofbacon doesn't help me! In-Reply-To: <1015989895.30858.9.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> References: <20020312025407.GG29244@zork.net> <1015989895.30858.9.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> Message-ID: <1015991441.30857.13.camel@tduffy-lnx.afara.com> On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 19:24, Thomas Duffy wrote: > Adolf Hitler > http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon%2c+Kevin&game=1&secondname=Hitler%2c+Adolf speaking of Hitler...I knew these guys were close... http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Adolf+Hitler&game=0&secondname=Ashcroft%2c+John+%28II%29&using=3 -tduffy From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Mar 12 20:43:59 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tractorgen In-Reply-To: <20020313025559.GA27061@kitenet.net> References: <20020313012233.GA31093@zork.net> <20020313025559.GA27061@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20020313044358.GC31093@zork.net> begin Joey Hess quotation: > ObTractor: plowing yesterday You crazy hillbilly! You are the hillbilly of Debian! > Am I the last one to discover w3m-img, or is the attached screenshot > as much a shock to you as it was to me? For those of you who wish to be shocked without benefit of MIME bullshit: http://zork.net/~nick/pix/crack.jpeg -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From phorst at ointment.org Tue Mar 12 21:36:43 2002 From: phorst at ointment.org (Peter Horst) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tractorgen In-Reply-To: <20020313012233.GA31093@zork.net> References: <20020313012233.GA31093@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020313053643.GX1434@ointment.org> On Mar12, 17:22PM, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.vergenet.net/~konradd/software/tractorgen/ > > In keeping with this theorem, TRACTORGEN will politely inform the > > user if any attempt to make tractors with less than four wheels is > > made (by calling abort(2) and dumping core). > ... checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking that you're completely fent... yes ... -- Die on, all; till we come to the city of sacred Ilion, you in flight and I killing you from behind; -- Iliad 21, 128-9 From carton at Ivy.NET Tue Mar 12 17:05:37 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] PAM In-Reply-To: <20020309195315.GA19395@kobayashi.soze.net> (Justin's message of "Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:53:15 +0000") References: <6ug039pm8p.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020309195315.GA19395@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "j" == Justin writes: >> a. Tools like 'sudo' (which is needed to use >> dpkg-buildpackage) dont understand DCE authentication. j> Isn't that one of the reasons to use PAM? http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-advocacy/2001/10/02/0002.html http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-advocacy/2001/10/03/0003.html http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-advocacy/2001/10/03/0006.html -- NetBSD: The choice of hundreds worldwide -- Tom Harvey From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Mar 12 22:36:40 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] PAM In-Reply-To: References: <6ug039pm8p.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020309195315.GA19395@kobayashi.soze.net> Message-ID: <20020313063640.GN14537@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Miles Nordin (carton@Ivy.NET): > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-advocacy/2001/10/02/0002.html > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-advocacy/2001/10/03/0003.html > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-advocacy/2001/10/03/0006.html Indeed, PAM has always struck me as _at best_ mostly harmless. I think the big attraction was letting the binary-only crowd switch hashing algorithms without having to strain their brains over compilers. -- Cheers, It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. Rick Moen It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, rick@ The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning, linuxmafia.com It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. From sneakums at zork.net Wed Mar 13 06:29:59 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Pawlo Strikes Again Message-ID: <6ud6y84k2g.fsf@zork.zork.net> http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/13/141202.shtml (via aargh) -- "I don't care what you say. I'm right and you're wrong." -- Eamon de Valera From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Mar 13 08:58:28 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] About the Author In-Reply-To: <20020313015738.GB31093@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 05:57:38PM -0800 References: <20020313015738.GB31093@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020313085828.B11076@zgp.org> begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 05:57:38PM -0800: > http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5195784875.html > > About the author: Don Marti is Editor in Chief of Embedded Linux > > Journal and vice president of the Silicon Valley Linux Users Group. > > He is item number eight in pigdog.org's "Things to Say When You're > > Losing a Technical Argument". Nobody ever writes me any "Letters to the Editor" unless I ask. http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5351137850.html Is everyone spoiled from seeing their stuff right away on the "Reader Talkback" sections of web sites? Or does everyone just agree with everything in Embedded Linux Journal? -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Mar 13 08:59:05 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Pawlo Strikes Again In-Reply-To: <6ud6y84k2g.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <6ud6y84k2g.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020313165905.GB5874@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Sean Neakums quotation: > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/13/141202.shtml > > (via aargh) > BBC News reports of Google bombing (often referred to as 'Google > juice' by the infamous Crackmonkey subscribers) I belive that the terms "Google juice" and "Google bombing" cannot be used interchangeably and I will prove that they in fact refer to two disticntly different things. First off, since both of these terms begin with the word "Google", a word which finds it's source in the mathematical term "googol". Googol refers to 10^100, or more generally, an extremely large number. Next, we should examine the term "bombing" This word literally means "to bomb", where "bomb" is derived from "bombe", an archaic term for a device used to break enigma codes. So obviously the term "Google bombing" means "to break an extremely large number of enigma codes". "Juice", on the other hand is defined by the 1913 Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary as: Juice \Juice\ (j[=u]s), n. [OE. juse, F. jus broth, gravy, juice, L. jus; akin to Skr. y[=u]sha.] The characteristic fluid of any vegetable or animal substance; the sap or part which can be expressed from fruit, etc.; the fluid part which separates from meat in cooking. This means that the term "Google juice" refers to instead "The fluids of an extreme number of plants and animals" Now, obviuosly these terms are not synonyms by any stretch of the imagination. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8j4VXjLHcIq3dHxYRAhu2AKDTo2yVGoY2M7Bp0Lsb9R7wa8upXACdFoVQ c0fQce474h/OIQ0rxKR9FjE= =4LNi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Mar 13 08:59:51 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] moahaha: XP-nuke In-Reply-To: <20020312103016.GL29695@bodin.org>; from magnus@bodin.org on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:30:16AM +0100 References: <20020312103016.GL29695@bodin.org> Message-ID: <20020313085951.C11076@zgp.org> begin Magnus Bodin quotation of Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:30:16AM +0100: > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=7.0 tests=PLING,SLIGHTLY_UNSAFE_JAVASCRIPT,REALLY_UNSAFE_JAVASCRIPT version=2.01 Somebody file another spamassassin bug; it's perfectly safe. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Join the Distributed Unisys Google Experiment. dmarti@zgp.org Unisys KG6INA everywhere. From elharaty at zork.net Wed Mar 13 09:07:21 2002 From: elharaty at zork.net (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] About the Author In-Reply-To: <20020313085828.B11076@zgp.org> References: <20020313015738.GB31093@zork.net> <20020313085828.B11076@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020313170721.GA30677@zork.net> begin Don Marti quotation: > Nobody ever writes me any "Letters to the Editor" unless I ask. > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5351137850.html > > Is everyone spoiled from seeing their stuff right away on the > "Reader Talkback" sections of web sites? Well work in some contraversial stuff like, embedded linux fetus aborters and de-gayifying electronic brain implants. -- Emad El-Haraty E / If you can't beat them, M\/ arrange to have them beaten. A\/ D From magnus at bodin.org Wed Mar 13 09:15:16 2002 From: magnus at bodin.org (Magnus Bodin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] moahaha: XP-nuke In-Reply-To: <20020313085951.C11076@zgp.org> References: <20020312103016.GL29695@bodin.org> <20020313085951.C11076@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020313171516.GX8548@bodin.org> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 08:59:51AM -0800, Don Marti wrote: > begin Magnus Bodin quotation of Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:30:16AM +0100: > > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=7.0 tests=PLING,SLIGHTLY_UNSAFE_JAVASCRIPT,REALLY_UNSAFE_JAVASCRIPT version=2.01 > > Somebody file another spamassassin bug; it's perfectly safe. Yes. I saw that too. Here is the REAL code as the Jscript I sent yesterday was crippled. http://x42.com/test/calc.jpg (It does only fire up the calculator, however) Reported to work with most of THOSE browsers on THOSE platforms. /magnus -- Word of the week: shou t?o (mittens) From nick at zork.net Wed Mar 13 09:24:16 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:54:43 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020313172416.GE31093@zork.net> Who the fuck said you could subscribe? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- davidu@everydns.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY RE