[Zachary Copley <snatcher@bearfountain.com>] Re: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]

[Don Marti]

begin Joakim Ziegler quotation of Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 09:10:27AM -0500:
> On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 04:05, Zachary Copley wrote:
> > 
> > I could code
> > an application in Cocoa so fast that it would have your stinky mono
> > kernel maxed out with recompiles every few seconds trying to keep up
> > with me -- while you program in completely ASS frameworks like Gnome
> > or KDE, which are about one-step removed from the old ancient Mac OS
> > toolkit and Microsoft MFC.  SUPER LAME.
> 
> So, does the Mac OS X GUI toolkit still require you to place your
> interface widgets on absolute coordinates? The MacOS X HIGs seem to
> indicate that this is the case.
> 
> If so: THAT FUCKING SUCKS.
> 
> Even Windows is not quite that stupid, AFAIK, and more advanced stuff
> like GTK+'s box packing model or blue-sky things like Javur's springs
> and struts system (which was abandoned before they released Swing, for
> being "too complex") inspired by TeX' box system, has been available for
> years and years.

Zachary Copley vs. Joakim Ziegler.  Application development cage
bout.  GTK+ vs. Cocoa.  Live on stage.  Two men and one programming
problem enter.  One man leaves.  All proceeds to benefit EFF.

Are you down?

Or are you all mouth?

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