From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 1 00:44:35 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] kernel builds Message-ID: <20020701074435.GQ28056@zork.net> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/local/home/nick/bbc/gar/kernel/linux/work/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i386 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/local/home/nick/bbc/gar/kernel/linux/work/linux/include/linux/modversions.h -c -o applicom.o applicom.c applicom.c:268: warning: #warning "LEAK" applicom.c:532: warning: #warning "Je suis stupide. DW. - copy*user in cli" -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sneakums at zork.net Mon Jul 1 01:08:11 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Foul! Nonstandard usage! In-Reply-To: <87bs9sza22.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> (Last Judgement Samuel's message of "Sun, 30 Jun 2002 15:16:53 -0700") References: <6uwushd98n.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020630071003.GA4025@fez.modernnoise.com> <6ud6u9awis.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87bs9sza22.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6un0tban10.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Last Judgement Samuel quotation: [trumpet noises] Jeez, you're not fun at all. Who took the jam out of *your* doughnut? -- / [|] Sean Neakums [|] \ From brian at 8ball.wox.org Mon Jul 1 04:58:15 2002 From: brian at 8ball.wox.org (Brian Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day! Message-ID: <20020701115815.GA13331@8ball.wox.org> In honor of Mailman Day, here's a joke: One day a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel attached to his crotch. So the bartender says to him, "You know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?" And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!" From junasts at subdimension.com Mon Jul 1 04:59:52 2002 From: junasts at subdimension.com (Last Judgement Samuel) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Foul! Nonstandard usage! In-Reply-To: <6un0tban10.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Mon, 01 Jul 2002 09:08:11 +0100") References: <6uwushd98n.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020630071003.GA4025@fez.modernnoise.com> <6ud6u9awis.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87bs9sza22.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6un0tban10.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <871yan3bgn.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "SN" == Sean Neakums writes: SN> Jeez, you're not fun at all. You've never seen me dance. SN> Who took the jam out of *your* doughnut? You just sound like Thom Stark. He cries, "Appeal to authority!" any time anyone cites an article or statistic. As if using evidence were some kind of unfair argumentative trick. -- Last Judgement Samuel -- +++ Last Judgement Samuel + junasts@subdimension.com + 0x8D3E92DE +++ From sneakums at zork.net Mon Jul 1 05:07:30 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Foul! Nonstandard usage! In-Reply-To: <871yan3bgn.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> (Last Judgement Samuel's message of "Mon, 01 Jul 2002 04:59:52 -0700") References: <6uwushd98n.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020630071003.GA4025@fez.modernnoise.com> <6ud6u9awis.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87bs9sza22.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6un0tban10.fsf@zork.zork.net> <871yan3bgn.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6uit3zaby5.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Last Judgement Samuel quotation: >>>>>> "SN" == Sean Neakums writes: > > SN> Who took the jam out of *your* doughnut? > > You just sound like Thom Stark. Ah, so the gloves *are* off. I was just trying to come up with a good joke about "van den Dries". My first thought was something along the lines of "Anybody who needs TWO WHOLE WORDS to connect his surname to his forename...", but I couldn't think of a good finish. So I went for the flawed "appeal to authority" joke instead. Ah well. > He cries, "Appeal to authority!" any time anyone cites an article or > statistic. As if using evidence were some kind of unfair > argumentative trick. In Mariposa County, "evidence" is a three-letter word. -- / [|] Sean Neakums [|] \ From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 1 09:28:17 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020701162817.GR28056@zork.net> Beaujolais to mailman day! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- claw@kanga.nu has been removed from CrackMonkey. ryan@nwgeeks.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 1 09:44:09 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK Message-ID: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/productinfo/features/default.asp > Powerful SDK > > Use the software development kit (SDK), which supports more than > 1,900 UNIX APIs and migration tools (conforming to the IEEE > 1003.1-1990 standard), such as make, rcs, yacc, lex, cc, c89, nm, > strip, gbd, as well as the gcc, g++, and g77 compilers. Man, it's a good thing that Microsoft doesn't use any of that nasty GPL communism or nothin'. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Jul 1 09:54:51 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> > Man, it's a good thing that Microsoft doesn't use any of that > nasty GPL communism or nothin'. WELCOME TO LAST YEAR! - Jeff -- "It's only ironic because it's true." - Reflexive irony, overheard From katherim at sfu.ca Mon Jul 1 09:55:02 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Shoot me now In-Reply-To: <20020630055349.GA23418@laviola.org> from "Carlos Laviola" at Jun 30, 2002 02:53:49 AM Message-ID: <200207011655.JAA11886@fraser.sfu.ca> On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 05:38:44PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=307449 > > Mike Batt, the man behind the Wombles and Vanessa Mae, has put a > > silent 60-second track on the album of his latest classical > > chart-topping proteges, the Planets. This has enraged > > representatives of the avant-garde, experimentalist composer John > > Cage, who died in 1992. The silence on his group's album clearly > > sounds uncannily like 4'33", the silence composed by Cage in his > > prime. This amused me enough to post it to my local newsgroup at sfu. Took me a day or so to get permission to forward this response on. begin ---------------include file----------------: From: ryeburn@sfu.caz (David or Jo Anne Ryeburn) Newsgroups: sfu.general Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:28:22 -0700 > I always thought that Cage was composite, not prime. I believe he was on > one of my two lists of "modern" composers a while ago, and not the one > that included Bartok and Stravinsky. This refers to a recent thread > ostensibly about Wagner's Ring. > When Cage first published that infamous work, recordings were made on > shellac disks and were lucky to have a 30 db signal to noise ratio. Later > LPs of his work might have achieved perhaps 50 db, when new; tapes, > especially those using noise reduction techniques such as Dolby C or Dolby > S, might have achieved as much as 75 db. But all these techniques are > analog. > No doubt the new silent 60 second work was recorded digitally. Leaving > aside inferior 8 bit digital techniques, an ordinary 16 bit CD should have > a 96 db signal to noise ratio(1), and with noise shaping, somewhat better > than 96 db can be achieved. With more recent 24 bit techniques, > considerably better figures are available. Cage and his supporters cannot > claim this; even 1992 recordings of his work, using the best digital > techniques then available, would not be as good. > Smilies, if and where appropriate, are left as an exercise for the reader. > (1) 20*log_10(2^16) = 96.32959862, approximately > Yours in high-quality digital silence, > David > -- > David or Jo Anne Ryeburn > ryeburn@sfu.caz > To send e-mail, remove the letter "z" from this address. From ron at vnetworx.net Mon Jul 1 09:59:35 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Ron Guerin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> Message-ID: <1025542776.17143.209726.camel@amory> On Mon, 2002-07-01 at 12:44, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/productinfo/features/default.asp > > Powerful SDK > > > > Use the software development kit (SDK), which supports more than > > 1,900 UNIX APIs and migration tools (conforming to the IEEE > > 1003.1-1990 standard), such as make, rcs, yacc, lex, cc, c89, nm, > > strip, gbd, as well as the gcc, g++, and g77 compilers. > > Man, it's a good thing that Microsoft doesn't use any of that > nasty GPL communism or nothin'. According to Microsoft's oft-stated "interpretation" of the GPL, doesn't this mean we can expect all of the Windows source code will be released now? From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 1 10:04:59 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020701170459.GW28056@zork.net> Good riddance to south bay trash. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- bstaylor@stanford.edu has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Mon Jul 1 10:06:51 2002 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:30 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <1025542776.17143.209726.camel@amory> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <1025542776.17143.209726.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020701170651.GA736@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > On Mon, 2002-07-01 at 12:44, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/productinfo/features/default.asp > > > Powerful SDK > > > > > > Use the software development kit (SDK), which supports more than > > > 1,900 UNIX APIs and migration tools (conforming to the IEEE > > > 1003.1-1990 standard), such as make, rcs, yacc, lex, cc, c89, nm, > > > strip, gbd, as well as the gcc, g++, and g77 compilers. > > > > Man, it's a good thing that Microsoft doesn't use any of that > > nasty GPL communism or nothin'. > > According to Microsoft's oft-stated "interpretation" of the GPL, doesn't > this mean we can expect all of the Windows source code will be released > now? > No, they'll just be going out of business as they can no longer sell any product. -- erik bourget | "The power of guessing is infinite." ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | -- Denis Therien From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 1 10:17:26 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020701171726.GX28056@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > > > > Man, it's a good thing that Microsoft doesn't use any of that > > nasty GPL communism or nothin'. > > WELCOME TO LAST YEAR! How's life in May 3, 2003? -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 1 10:18:31 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020701171831.GY28056@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > X-Uptime: 02:54:36 up 6:25, 2 users, load average: 5.63, 8.09, > 8.52 You big boy, you! Six whole hours of uptime under heavy load! You are the winner! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From katherim at sfu.ca Mon Jul 1 10:21:34 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701170651.GA736@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> from "Erik Bourget" at Jul 01, 2002 01:06:51 PM Message-ID: <200207011721.KAA14446@fraser.sfu.ca> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > According to Microsoft's oft-stated "interpretation" of the GPL, doesn't > this mean we can expect all of the Windows source code will be released > now? I'm sure that would just be far, far too embarrassing. Cheers, Kaye From jays at panix.com Mon Jul 1 10:30:53 2002 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701170651.GA736@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <1025542776.17143.209726.camel@amory> <20020701170651.GA736@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20020701173053.GA6157@panix.com> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 01:06:51PM -0400, Erik Bourget wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > > On Mon, 2002-07-01 at 12:44, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/productinfo/features/default.asp > > > > Powerful SDK > > > > > > > > Use the software development kit (SDK), which supports more than > > > > 1,900 UNIX APIs and migration tools (conforming to the IEEE > > > > 1003.1-1990 standard), such as make, rcs, yacc, lex, cc, c89, nm, > > > > strip, gbd, as well as the gcc, g++, and g77 compilers. > > > > > > Man, it's a good thing that Microsoft doesn't use any of that > > > nasty GPL communism or nothin'. > > > > According to Microsoft's oft-stated "interpretation" of the GPL, doesn't > > this mean we can expect all of the Windows source code will be released > > now? > > > > No, they'll just be going out of business as they can no longer sell any > product. > > -- > erik bourget | "The power of guessing is infinite." Of course, Microsoft has prospered for years by careful and flexible execution of the classic free software business model: 1. At point of sale the critical infrastructure is free to the customer. Infrastructural components may be freely redistributed, so the critical product spreads without advertising or support costs. 2. Money is made by selling add-ons and high priced services. In all cases, the services offered are structurally inadequate to repair the broken infrastructure, thus assuring a continuing income stream. The customer cannot escape, because, after all, the infrastructure is already installed. oo--JS. From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Jul 1 06:43:59 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dying Salon writes about trains In-Reply-To: <20020628155337.GA19908@eiv.com> (Shawn McMahon's message of "Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:53:37 -0400") References: <20020627193615.GO19180@zork.net> <20020627175910.B24905@hafd.org> <20020628155337.GA19908@eiv.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "sm" == Shawn McMahon writes: sm> On the road, we don't subsidize Greyhound, we build the roads sm> we don't subsidize the airlines, we subsidize the airports ...and here in the Philadelphia metro area, the regional commuter rail runs on Amtrak's tracks. What's your point, anyway? That when the government subsidizes critical economic and social infrastructure, some of the spillover benefits are surprising and hard to predict? That subsidizing or regulating certain peculiar industries in which market forces would create a natural monopoly doesn't necessarily preclude competition among nearby closely-dependent industries? You've demonstrated that nicely, but your argument is a little distracting: McMahon Point (1): One of these things is not like the others One of these things just isn't the same Can you tell me which thing is not like the others By the time I finish this SONG! McMahon Point (2): THE MARKET WILL FIND A WAY! (point 1) ----> (point 2) ----------------------------------------+ \/ | \ | +-- PERFECT CRACKMONKEY ARGUMENT! | | sm> air transport system where anybody blah blah yada | sm> yada yada. | | where airlines have a free hand to deny access to any | passenger, for any reason, with no accountability to provide | equal access to everyone, and with a tidy exemption from the | guarantees in the constitution and in law that protect | liberty from the blind, maddened pursuit of efficiency and | profit, and from the tyranny of provincial narrow-minded | fucks like you who might happen to be running airlines. | | +------------------------------+ \|/ Slip in a comparison to the ``natural law'' that governs the populations and behaviors of wild animals, and your arguments would be even more convincing. Shawn McMahon, the Natural Law Party candidate for Reichsf?hrer. sm> If they want to not fail, they can learn to not suck. Likewise, the problem with declining education quality in underfunded inner-city schools is a LACK OF ACCOUNTABILIY. Therefore, we should introduce more standardized bubble-tests and defund schools with poor test scores. That'll teach those damned non-performing schools and teachers to be underfunded. They're having poor test scores on purpose, depriving these students of a decent education just to mock us, to thumb their noses at us and show their commie contempt and ingratitude to the taxpayers and to Herr Himmler for the funds we give them IN TRUST as compensation for their DUTY to educate their surly inner-city youth to the power code for success in our business world. These violators of the public trust must be punished. We'll TAKE AWAY THEIR FUNDS to punish them for BEING UNDERFUNDED. If these inner-city schools want a government hand-out, then they can learn not to suck. Here's the problem: it's not ``they'' who want it not to fail, and not to suck. It's _us_. -- Un altro mondo ? possibile From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Jul 1 07:38:20 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: TO SYMMETRY AND ASYMMETRY-----NOW ADD SUPERSYMMETRY In-Reply-To: <20020630005527.GA8020@panix.com> (Jay Sulzberger's message of "Sat, 29 Jun 2002 20:55:27 -0400") References: <6ur8ipbrx8.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020630005527.GA8020@panix.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "js" == Jay Sulzberger writes: js> arguments that using 1024 bits of RSA key is OK, when you can js> have more at no cost. Speak for yourself, you owners of Viaos and Lifebooks, the TOOLS OF THE RICH, when the rest of us are stuck using THIRD-WORLD TECHNOLOGY like 132MHz mips with direct-mapped caches. And now we all have to use perfect forward secrecy because the OpenSSH assholes say it is ``more secure'' while at the same time twiddling their fat canadian thumbs about real key infrastructure. so you want me to generate a new 2kbit key to open every TCP circuit. How long must I wait to open a terminal session? 30 seconds? two minutes? balthasar:~$ time ssh -2 ::1 true real 0m10.750s user 0m3.984s sys 0m0.570s balthasar:~$ time ssh -1 ::1 true real 0m2.695s user 0m0.341s sys 0m0.597s I pay THROUGH THE ASS for your extra bits. Besides, why would anyone be interested in tapping _my_ communication? I'm just an ordinary, uninteresting person. I know there are freaks on the tinfoil brigade who want strong encryption for everything, but for me it is a matter of BALANCING performance against security. You antisocial crypto extremists don't understand that all good decisions are made through TRADE-OFFS AND COMPROMISES. Besides, what if it is a serious criminal using the cryptography, then we would want to break it for the good of all. Appropriately-sized cryptography designed through TRADE-OFFS AND COMPROMISES will act as a sufficient deterrent to attacks against honest people, while still allowing more concerted attacks against scofflaws, convicts, and anti-capitalist extremists to succeed. -- Everyone already know that Theo lame, but few realize that he also is just asshole. . . -- #phrack From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 1 11:22:07 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020701182207.GA28056@zork.net> I guess he had to cower back at his fancy new Adobe office complex. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- stevet@fremontpublic.org has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From marco4linux at earthlink.net Mon Jul 1 11:36:24 2002 From: marco4linux at earthlink.net (Marco Scoffier) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Shoot me now In-Reply-To: <200207011655.JAA11886@fraser.sfu.ca>; from katherim@sfu.ca on Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 12:55:02 -0400 References: <200207011655.JAA11886@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20020701183624.GD13606@cozbox.miwaetmarco.net> Who has decided it is the signal which is worth preserving? What does shellac sound like? From henrik at enberg.org Mon Jul 1 12:03:48 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Shoot me now In-Reply-To: <20020701183624.GD13606@cozbox.miwaetmarco.net> (Marco Scoffier's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:36:24 -0400") References: <200207011655.JAA11886@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020701183624.GD13606@cozbox.miwaetmarco.net> Message-ID: <87adpbz2wb.fsf@enberg.org> Marco Scoffier writes: > What does shellac sound like? Grating guitars and a tone-deaf singer. -- Yo mama's so stupid, she asked you "What is the number for 911". From brian at collab.net Mon Jul 1 12:22:37 2002 From: brian at collab.net (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <200207011721.KAA14446@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20020701122219.R6285-100000@yez.hyperreal.org> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Katherine Merle Mason wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > > > According to Microsoft's oft-stated "interpretation" of the GPL, doesn't > > this mean we can expect all of the Windows source code will be released > > now? > > I'm sure that would just be far, far too embarrassing. And then the terrorists will have already won. Brian From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com Mon Jul 1 12:38:26 2002 From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (mwmiller@columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701170651.GA736@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <1025542776.17143.209726.camel@amory> <20020701170651.GA736@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20020701193826.GA1306@columbus.rr.com> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 01:06:51PM -0400, Erik Bourget wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > > According to Microsoft's oft-stated "interpretation" of the GPL, > > doesn't this mean we can expect all of the Windows source code will > > be released now? > No, they'll just be going out of business as they can no longer sell > any product. All right, all right, I'll be the one to bite. Don't they already not sell any product since it's all packaged with prefab PeeCees now? -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com (Ow, that hook is painful.) From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Jul 1 12:49:56 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] this just in: mrbad covets a serial port In-Reply-To: <20020628054643.GE19180@zork.net> References: <20020628054643.GE19180@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020701194956.GB11125@zgp.org> begin Nick Moffitt quotation of Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:46:43PM -0700: > http://www.livejournal.com/talkpost.bml?journal=mrbad&itemid=532410 > > Now here's a little toy I wouldn't mind having. > > Crazy Canadians! 6 outlets and a serial port, $299 http://baytech.net:8080/cgi-private/product?product=RPC2 PCI serial console card: http://www.realweasel.com/pcivga.html Real Linux boxes, with no moving parts and lots of serial ports, to which you can connect a modem for dialup access and the serial consoles of your servers (and of course the serial port of the Baytech switch so you can power-cycle your DSL box) http://www.cyclades.com/products/stdalone/ts1_2000.php -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Jul 1 13:06:41 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter of Marque? In-Reply-To: <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> References: <20020626164327.GE15228@zgp.org> <87wuslspbz.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020626214204.GA22576@zgp.org> <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020701200641.GF11125@zgp.org> begin Jeff Waugh quotation of Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 02:20:01AM +1000: > > > > dm> iMacs have no paperclip hole? > > > > That's right. They're ``slot loading'' like the players in cars. The > > eject button is on the attached USB keyboard. > > But the paperclip hole is on the right hand side, just inside the slot. Celine-Dion-Listening Macintosh Users Can't Find Paperclip Hole: Is our Information Technology Infrastructure at Risk? -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Jul 1 13:18:02 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] this just in: mrbad covets a serial port In-Reply-To: <20020701194956.GB11125@zgp.org> (Don Marti's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:49:56 -0700") References: <20020628054643.GE19180@zork.net> <20020701194956.GB11125@zgp.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "dm" == Don Marti writes: dm> 6 outlets and a serial port, $299 dm> http://baytech.net:8080/cgi-private/product?product=RPC2 dm> so you can power-cycle your DSL box) but how can you get in to power-cycle the DSL box if the DSL box needs power-cycling? From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Jul 1 13:23:24 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020628190808.GP19180@zork.net> References: <20020628184426.GO19180@zork.net> <877kkjcjm9.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020628190808.GP19180@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020701202324.GH11125@zgp.org> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 12:08:08PM -0700: > Fremont Seattle vs Fremont, CA jokes are no longer Where It's At > either. Seattle is where it's at. http://www.elevated.org/ -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From smcmahon at eiv.com Mon Jul 1 13:24:57 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] this just in: mrbad covets a serial port In-Reply-To: References: <20020628054643.GE19180@zork.net> <20020701194956.GB11125@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020701202456.GA29757@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Miles Nordin quotation: > > but how can you get in to power-cycle the DSL box if the DSL box needs > power-cycling? Serial port. - -- Shawn McMahon | McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0gupgACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt2QNwCcDB62Gwnh8DIxnfATbadDKjMP IkIAn0BIzvSUBNU6p8u/ic8vUt2Wx+7C =hZZH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikael at pawlo.com Mon Jul 1 13:30:53 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter of Marque? In-Reply-To: <20020701200641.GF11125@zgp.org> References: <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> <20020626164327.GE15228@zgp.org> <87wuslspbz.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020626214204.GA22576@zgp.org> <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> Message-ID: At 13.06 -0700 02-07-01, Don Marti wrote: >> > dm> iMacs have no paperclip hole? >> > That's right. They're ``slot loading'' like the players in cars. The >> > eject button is on the attached USB keyboard. >> But the paperclip hole is on the right hand side, just inside the slot. >Celine-Dion-Listening Macintosh Users Can't Find Paperclip Hole: >Is our Information Technology Infrastructure at Risk? Are there really Mac owners listening to Celine Dion? I find that very hard to believe, while most Mac owners have a very profound and well-educated taste for the good things in life. Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Jul 1 13:51:27 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Xenu, baby. In-Reply-To: <1025478221.14295.171617.camel@amory> References: <20020621060459.GA28172@zgp.org> <1024635683.2059.5.camel@deck> <1025478221.14295.171617.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020701205127.GI11125@zgp.org> begin Ron Guerin quotation of Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 07:03:39PM -0400: > On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 01:01, Joakim Ziegler wrote: > > ... , and on a whim, I searched for > > Scientology on Google, where Operation Clambake is still, satisfyingly, > > the top result. > > Somewhere over the last few days, it has dropped to #3. You lazy fuckers. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Jul 1 13:58:38 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020701202324.GH11125@zgp.org> References: <20020628184426.GO19180@zork.net> <877kkjcjm9.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020628190808.GP19180@zork.net> <20020701202324.GH11125@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020701205838.GC31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Boomtime, the 36th of Confusion, 3168, Don Marti wrote: > begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 12:08:08PM -0700: > > > Fremont Seattle vs Fremont, CA jokes are no longer Where It's At > > either. > > Seattle is where it's at. > http://www.elevated.org/ Lyle Lanley: Well, sir, there's nothing on earth Like a genuine, Bona fide, Electrified, Six-car Monorail! ... What'd I say? Ned Flanders: Monorail! Lyle Lanley: What's it called? Patty+Selma: Monorail! Lyle Lanley: That's right! Monorail! [crowd chants `Monorail' softly and rhythmically] Miss Hoover: I hear those things are awfully loud... Lyle Lanley: It glides as softly as a cloud. Apu: Is there a chance the track could bend? Lyle Lanley: Not on your life, my Hindu friend. Barney: What about us brain-dead slobs? Lyle Lanley: You'll all be given cushy jobs. Abe: Were you sent here by the devil? Lyle Lanley: No, good sir, I'm on the level. Wiggum: The ring came off my pudding can. Lyle Lanley: Take my pen knife, my good man. I swear it's Springfield's only choice... Throw up your hands and raise your voice! All: [singing] Monorail! Lyle Lanley: What's it called? All: Monorail! Lyle Lanley: Once again... All: Monorail! Marge: But Main Street's still all cracked and broken... Bart: Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken! All: [singing] Monorail! Monorail! Monorail! [big finish] Monorail! Homer: Mono... D'oh! - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9IMJ7jLHcIq3dHxYRAkHqAJ95VV7Z950NE3DWJ2OavC8jFLLOdwCg4hy9 5DJ3zFtJHAt8zK8OiaEmf2M= =gcAh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From henrik at enberg.org Mon Jul 1 13:59:56 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter of Marque? In-Reply-To: (Mikael Pawlo's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:30:53 +0200") References: <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> <20020626164327.GE15228@zgp.org> <87wuslspbz.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020626214204.GA22576@zgp.org> <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <87znxbqi43.fsf@enberg.org> St?ndigt denna Pawlo writes: > I find that very hard to believe, while most Mac owners have a very > profound and well-educated taste for the good things in life. How do you explain the turtlenecks and the rimless glasses? Mac owners are the Madonnas of computing. Constantly trying to latch on to the latest htrend, but always falling short. -- Yo mama's so fat, she has to get out of the car to change gears. From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Mon Jul 1 13:59:32 2002 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701193826.GA1306@columbus.rr.com> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <1025542776.17143.209726.camel@amory> <20020701170651.GA736@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> <20020701193826.GA1306@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20020701205932.GA1704@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 03:38:26PM -0400, mwmiller@columbus.rr.com wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 01:06:51PM -0400, Erik Bourget > wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote: > > > According to Microsoft's oft-stated "interpretation" of the GPL, > > > doesn't this mean we can expect all of the Windows source code will > > > be released now? > > No, they'll just be going out of business as they can no longer sell > > any product. > > All right, all right, I'll be the one to bite. Don't they already not > sell any product since it's all packaged with prefab PeeCees now? Dude. Here in Montreal, I unwittingly went to Future Shop one day to buy some CDRs or something like that. Little did I know, this was the day Windows XP was released. Bad Idea. The place was swarming with people clutching the little green boxes. I couldn't believe my eyes. Amusingly enough, there were plenty of CDRs left but the Windows shelf was empty. Consumer honesty at work! Warms the heart, enlivens the soul. erik -- erik bourget | "The power of guessing is infinite." ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | -- Denis Therien From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Jul 1 14:06:40 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] this just in: mrbad covets a serial port In-Reply-To: <20020701202456.GA29757@eiv.com> References: <20020628054643.GE19180@zork.net> <20020701194956.GB11125@zgp.org> <20020701202456.GA29757@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020701210640.GE13362@zgp.org> begin Shawn McMahon quotation of Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 04:24:57PM -0400: > begin Miles Nordin quotation: > > > > but how can you get in to power-cycle the DSL box if the DSL box needs > > power-cycling? > > Serial port. YOU AT MOTEL 6 | YOUR HOME laptop -- modem -- phone co -|- modem -- Cyclades box -- Baytech box -- realweasel card -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 1 14:08:09 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020701210809.GD28056@zork.net> Mailman day strikes in Antarctica! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- schwaigl@eunet.at has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From andrew-cm at lexical.org.uk Mon Jul 1 13:35:14 2002 From: andrew-cm at lexical.org.uk (Andrew Walkingshaw) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Shoot me now In-Reply-To: <87adpbz2wb.fsf@enberg.org> References: <200207011655.JAA11886@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020701183624.GD13606@cozbox.miwaetmarco.net> <87adpbz2wb.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20020701203514.GD41199@colon.colondot.net> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 09:03:48PM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > Marco Scoffier writes: > > > What does shellac sound like? > > Grating guitars and a tone-deaf singer. "Grating" is a -little- harsh. Minimally-produced, yes, but that's just what happens when you let Steve Albini loose in a studio without any constraints at all. He isn't exactly noted for his subtlety. I have a suspicion that my life's work might be fated to be to obtain a copy of every record Steve Albini's recorded (he refuses to be billed as a producer, and this is for once accurate). Anyway, at least "Shellac" is a marginally more tasteful band name than "Rapeman", his previous outfit... -- adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk From mikael at pawlo.com Mon Jul 1 14:21:33 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter of Marque? In-Reply-To: <87znxbqi43.fsf@enberg.org> References: (Mikael Pawlo's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:30:53 +0200") <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> <20020626164327.GE15228@zgp.org> <87wuslspbz.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020626214204.GA22576@zgp.org> <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> Message-ID: At 22.59 +0200 02-07-01, Henrik Enberg wrote: >St?ndigt denna Pawlo writes: I am happy to learn that you eventually have discovered Google! >> I find that very hard to believe, while most Mac owners have a very >> profound and well-educated taste for the good things in life. >How do you explain the turtlenecks and the rimless glasses? Mac owners >are the Madonnas of computing. Constantly trying to latch on to the >latest htrend, but always falling short. We're anything but short, hence the need for turtlenecks. >Yo mama's so fat, she has to get out of the car to change gears. Yo mama's so fat, when she got out of the car the director of Men in Black 2 immediately signed her up for a non-make-up role as the (HUGE SPOLIER!) ugly alien bith in the ending. Love from Stockholm .-) Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Mon Jul 1 14:22:35 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Best weblog this week Message-ID: A must read this week, is Dan Gillmor's weblog from ILAW 2002: http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/dan_gillmor/e journal/3580048.htm M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From joe at barrera.org Mon Jul 1 14:30:08 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter of Marque? References: (Mikael Pawlo's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:30:53 +0200") <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> <20020626164327.GE15228@zgp.org> <87wuslspbz.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020626214204.GA22576@zgp.org> <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <3D20C9E0.4090604@barrera.org> Mikael Pawlo wrote: > Yo mama's so fat, when she got out of the car the director of Men in Black > 2 immediately signed her up for a non-make-up role as the (HUGE SPOLIER!) > ugly alien bith in the ending. That's a typo, I assume: "bith" should be "sith"? Myself, I can't stand those siths. - Joe From mikael at pawlo.com Mon Jul 1 14:36:36 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter of Marque? In-Reply-To: <3D20C9E0.4090604@barrera.org> References: (Mikael Pawlo's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:30:53 +0200") <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> <20020626164327.GE15228@zgp.org> <87wuslspbz.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020626214204.GA22576@zgp.org> <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> Message-ID: At 14.30 -0700 02-07-01, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: >Mikael Pawlo wrote: >> Yo mama's so fat, when she got out of the car the director of Men in Black >> 2 immediately signed her up for a non-make-up role as the (HUGE SPOLIER!) >> ugly alien bith in the ending. >That's a typo, I assume: "bith" should be "sith"? >Myself, I can't stand those siths. On one hand, I had to remove the C in order to pass the Canadian depravity filters. On the other hand, I guess the entiry Crackmonkey posse is already blocked in any indecency filter. Rick Moen should be on Netnanny, should I ever get any kids! Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From pgl at yoyo.org Mon Jul 1 14:37:07 2002 From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Best weblog this week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020701213706.GA52399@yoyo.org> On Jul 01, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > A must read this week, is Dan Gillmor's weblog from ILAW 2002: > http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/dan_gillmor/e > journal/3580048.htm Crackmonkey needs a mailing list version of clickolinko. -- Litres of beer drunk in the Czech Republic so far this year: 817591674.67 http://prague.tv/toys/beer/ From leklund at tastytronic.net Mon Jul 1 14:42:03 2002 From: leklund at tastytronic.net (Lukas Eklund) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Best weblog this week In-Reply-To: <20020701213706.GA52399@yoyo.org> References: <20020701213706.GA52399@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <20020701174203.A20926@tastytronic.net> Quoting Peter Lowe: > On Jul 01, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > > A must read this week, is Dan Gillmor's weblog from ILAW 2002: > > http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/dan_gillmor/e > > journal/3580048.htm > Crackmonkey needs a mailing list version of clickolinko. Because I have nothing better to do: http://flynn.zork.net/cl/?q=1025559676 -- lukas | Self-Evident, adj. Evident to one's self and to nobody else. eklund | -- Ambrose Bierce +++ tastytronic.net -- UNWORTHY BLUE COLLARS FOR THE CAT-3 PRISON! +++ From pgl at yoyo.org Mon Jul 1 14:50:55 2002 From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Best weblog this week In-Reply-To: <20020701174203.A20926@tastytronic.net> References: <20020701213706.GA52399@yoyo.org> <20020701174203.A20926@tastytronic.net> Message-ID: <20020701215055.GA52801@yoyo.org> On Jul 01, Lukas Eklund wrote: > Because I have nothing better to do: > > http://flynn.zork.net/cl/?q=1025559676 I laugh at your 38 characters, and poke oversized URLs in the eye with my 28: http://url.v3.net/1025560003 -- Litres of beer drunk in the Czech Republic so far this year: 817635841.57 http://prague.tv/toys/beer/ From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Jul 1 15:02:49 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter of Marque? In-Reply-To: References: <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> <20020626164327.GE15228@zgp.org> <87wuslspbz.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020626214204.GA22576@zgp.org> <20020629162000.GA1802@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020701220249.GC14555@zgp.org> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation of Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 11:36:36PM +0200: > On one hand, I had to remove the C in order to pass the Canadian depravity > filters. On the other hand, I guess the entiry Crackmonkey posse is already > blocked in any indecency filter. Everybody submit all your favorite sites! http://www.cyberpatrol.com/test_a_site/listsubmission.aspx -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Jul 1 15:47:39 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] from Brooklyn to Bordeaux Message-ID: <20020701224739.GB15730@zgp.org> Anybody going to the "Law, Economy, Politic and libre software" conference? http://lsm.abul.org/program/topic17/topic17.php3 -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From jays at panix.com Mon Jul 1 16:03:20 2002 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] from Brooklyn to Bordeaux In-Reply-To: <20020701224739.GB15730@zgp.org> References: <20020701224739.GB15730@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020701230320.GA11099@panix.com> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 03:47:39PM -0700, Don Marti wrote: > Anybody going to the "Law, Economy, Politic and libre software" > conference? > http://lsm.abul.org/program/topic17/topic17.php3 > > -- > Don Marti DO NOT BRING YOUR PROPRIETARY INTERRABANG TO BORDEAUX. http://members.tripod.com/~EuroFan/BT8index.html oo--JS. From katherim at sfu.ca Mon Jul 1 16:07:06 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter In-Reply-To: from "Mikael Pawlo" at Jul 01, 2002 11:36:36 PM Message-ID: <200207012307.QAA26731@fraser.sfu.ca> > At 14.30 -0700 02-07-01, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > >Mikael Pawlo wrote: > >> Yo mama's so fat, when she got out of the car the director of Men in Black > >> 2 immediately signed her up for a non-make-up role as the (HUGE SPOLIER!) > >> ugly alien bith in the ending. > >That's a typo, I assume: "bith" should be "sith"? > >Myself, I can't stand those siths. > > On one hand, I had to remove the C in order to pass the Canadian depravity > filters. Strangely, I had assumed you were missing an "r" in there. After all, there was an ugly alien birth at the end of the first movie. I liked the sith version more, however. Cheers, Kaye From mikael at pawlo.com Mon Jul 1 16:16:55 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Can you say "arrr" if you have a Letter In-Reply-To: <200207012307.QAA26731@fraser.sfu.ca> References: from "Mikael Pawlo" at Jul 01, 2002 11:36:36 PM Message-ID: At 16.07 -0700 02-07-01, Katherine Merle Mason wrote: >> At 14.30 -0700 02-07-01, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: >> >Mikael Pawlo wrote: >> >> Yo mama's so fat, when she got out of the car the director of Men in >>Black >> >> 2 immediately signed her up for a non-make-up role as the (HUGE SPOLIER!) >> >> ugly alien bith in the ending. >> >That's a typo, I assume: "bith" should be "sith"? >> >Myself, I can't stand those siths. >> On one hand, I had to remove the C in order to pass the Canadian depravity >> filters. >Strangely, I had assumed you were missing an "r" in there. After all, there >was an ugly alien birth at the end of the first movie. I liked the sith >version more, however. Being European, I am actually spelling "sith" as "cith". M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From dep at linuxandmain.com Mon Jul 1 16:38:32 2002 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] little scientologist children to abandon america for austria Message-ID: <200207011938.32804.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,56676,00.html children were purchased several years ago by l. ron cruise and his former ho. (anyone who has watched cruise act can see that he is definitely clear.) -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 1 16:43:24 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020701215127.GD2737@lug.org.uk> References: <20020701210809.GD28056@zork.net> <20020701215127.GD2737@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20020701234324.GI28056@zork.net> begin Andy Smith quotation: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 02:08:09PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Mailman day strikes in Antarctica! > > I doubt you care, but that's Austria. Antarctica is aa. Shows what you know. Austria is au! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From henrik at enberg.org Mon Jul 1 16:53:58 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020701234324.GI28056@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:43:24 -0700") References: <20020701210809.GD28056@zork.net> <20020701215127.GD2737@lug.org.uk> <20020701234324.GI28056@zork.net> Message-ID: <87lm8vkns9.fsf@enberg.org> Nick Moffitt writes: > Shows what you know. Austria is au! What this list needs is some Argentinians. Then we coould have steering wheel jokes every day. -- Yo mama's so stupid, she got stabbed in a shoot-out. From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Jul 1 19:53:27 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020701171831.GY28056@zork.net> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> <20020701171831.GY28056@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020702025327.GC1781@perkypants.org> > You big boy, you! Six whole hours of uptime under heavy load! > You are the winner! Bow down to the SHEER POWER of the parallel GAR build in tmpfs! Clean my toaster crumbs! - Jeff --=20 Cette menace est tr=E8s s=E9rieuse. = =20 From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 1 22:40:40 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020702025327.GC1781@perkypants.org> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> <20020701171831.GY28056@zork.net> <20020702025327.GC1781@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020702054040.GL28056@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > > > You big boy, you! Six whole hours of uptime under heavy load! > > You are the winner! > > Bow down to the SHEER POWER of the parallel GAR build in tmpfs! > Clean my toaster crumbs! Haw haw! Hey, so why don't you update to a newer GAR library? I got rid of the vestigial bbc prefix for you and everything! debbugs integration and all sorts of pr0n0 feechurz! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Jul 1 23:15:06 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020702054040.GL28056@zork.net> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> <20020701171831.GY28056@zork.net> <20020702025327.GC1781@perkypants.org> <20020702054040.GL28056@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020702061506.GH1781@perkypants.org> > Haw haw! Hey, so why don't you update to a newer GAR library? > I got rid of the vestigial bbc prefix for you and everything! debbugs > integration and all sorts of pr0n0 feechurz! Oh man! I was going to hack on bug report integration next, too! Anyway, yes Mum, I will. Now that G2D is out, I have time to do more crazy shit. But yeah, so building meta/gnome-desktop in tmpfs with dualey athlon love: real 55m6.347s user 63m25.590s sys 16m48.420s Yo' momma wears *MY* army boots. - Jeff -- What did the sausage say to the tomato at breakfast? "There's not mushroom this morning, is there?" From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 1 23:29:19 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020702061506.GH1781@perkypants.org> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> <20020701171831.GY28056@zork.net> <20020702025327.GC1781@perkypants.org> <20020702054040.GL28056@zork.net> <20020702061506.GH1781@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020702062919.GN28056@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > > > Haw haw! Hey, so why don't you update to a newer GAR library? > > I got rid of the vestigial bbc prefix for you and everything! > > debbugs integration and all sorts of pr0n0 feechurz! > > Oh man! I was going to hack on bug report integration next, too! Well, mine uses debbugs, which uses e-mail to file and manipulate bugs. Looks like guhnome uses bugzilla, which requires that you sign up for a fucking account before you can file a bug. I have one account on mozilla's bug daturbase for each bug I've filed. I actually refrained from filing bugs in the past because the barrier to entry was so high. Anyway, check out http://gar.lnx-bbc.org/packages/ for da funky shit. > Anyway, yes Mum, I will. Now that G2D is out, I have time to do more > crazy shit. But yeah, so building meta/gnome-desktop in tmpfs with > dualey athlon love: > > real 55m6.347s > user 63m25.590s > sys 16m48.420s > > Yo' momma wears *MY* army boots. mmmmmm... tmpfs.... -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sneakums at zork.net Tue Jul 2 00:42:34 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <20020702062919.GN28056@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:29:19 -0700") References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> <20020701171831.GY28056@zork.net> <20020702025327.GC1781@perkypants.org> <20020702054040.GL28056@zork.net> <20020702061506.GH1781@perkypants.org> <20020702062919.GN28056@zork.net> Message-ID: <6u4rfia845.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > begin Jeff Waugh quotation: >> Anyway, yes Mum, I will. Now that G2D is out, I have time to do >> more crazy shit. But yeah, so building meta/gnome-desktop in tmpfs >> with dualey athlon love: >> >> real 55m6.347s >> user 63m25.590s >> sys 16m48.420s >> >> Yo' momma wears *MY* army boots. > > mmmmmm... tmpfs.... Making YOUR SWAP work for YOU! -- / [|] Sean Neakums [|] \ From sneakums at zork.net Tue Jul 2 01:32:48 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:31 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fwd: [Twisted-Python] Viridian Note 00319: Grand Challenges Message-ID: <6un0ta8r7z.fsf@zork.zork.net> Too many short messages on this list. Here's a long one to begin restoration of the balance. -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- From: Jason Asbahr To: twisted-python@twistedmatrix.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Subject: [Twisted-Python] Viridian Note 00319: Grand Challenges Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:12:30 -0500 From: Bruce Sterling Date: Fri Jun 28, 2002 01:28:04 PM US/Central Subject: Viridian Note 00319: Grand Challenges Key concepts: computer science, computer research, grand challenges, ubiqitous computation, genetic algorithms, corruption, spam, Internet, civil society Attention Conservation Notice: it's not particularly likely that a loud, angry, impassioned, rambling 6,000- word speech by the Viridian Pope-Emperor is going to change the future course of American computer science. No harm in trying, though! Links: The gig. http://www.cra.org/Activities/challenges/ The Spam Epidemic. http://www.cluelessmailers.org/spamdemic/mapfullsize.html Jordan Pollack's evolutionary machine lab. http://demo.cs.brandeis.edu/ All things ubicomp. http://homepage1.nifty.com/konomi/shinichi/ubicomp.html Speech at "CRA Conference on Grand Research Challenges in Computer Science and Engineering" Airlie House, Warrenton, Virginia June 23, 2002 "Without Vision, the People Perish" Hi, I'm Bruce Sterling. I write novels. Ladies and gentlemen, I bring unique qualifications to this computer-science gathering, because unlike the rest of you, I have the sublime creative freedom of not knowing what I'm talking about. Besides, I am the only man in this house who is wearing a tie. So I must be keynoting. I am a science fiction writer and I am 105 percent vision thing. The very idea of the likes of me, at this august event of yours, blue-skying it with the legendary likes of Gordon Bell, and Rodney Brooks, and Alan Kay... And Bob Metcalfe... okay, granted, I can handle Bob Metcalfe with no problem. Imagine the sheer gall, the chutzpah this requires on my part. Anyone with common sense and a smaller ego would quail, but I am up for this grand challenge! I am totally with the program. I am cocking my shotgun and I am going to give you both barrels. I just wanted to take a second to relish the rich literary irony of this situation. Folks, I am really going to enjoy this. I am enjoying this already. Okay, so what's the story with this "Grand Challenges" theme, huh? How come the computer revolution, so mighty, so high-tech, so all-encompassing, is on a quest for new spark plugs? Well, I can tell you. That subject is within my bailiwick. The computer industry is my favorite industry. She is my heart's darling. I have been watching her for a long time, and I'm all used to her weird little vagaries. This is happening because computer science is the only major branch of science that is named after a gadget. And gadgets get old. It doesn't matter how lithesome and charming and sexy they were in their youth. They get old. They settle down. They get domesticated. They have mouths to feed and socks to wash. Machines lose their aura of the technological sublime. The computer is a gizmo, and it's a great gizmo, but it's not an ultimate gizmo. Computer science has been the slave of metaphysics ever since Alan Turing invented the Turing Test, but a computer is not a metaphysical entity. It's not free of objective reality. Its bits are bits of atoms. The only ultimate gizmo is a clock. The clock never stops ticking. The clock has been ticking for the computer for quite a while. It's not just that the pace of basic innovation has slowed in your field, although it has. It's not just that computers have lost the lipstick of their geek gadget romance, although they have. That which was accomplished in the 1980s and 1990s is under attack. There is a backlash. This ought to be obvious to anybody who uses the Internet. All you need to do is examine your email. Where is Al Gore's idealistic, civilized Information Superhighway? It's a red-light district. A crooked flea market. A nest of spies. An infowar battlefield. That is the state of cyberspace 2002. There are fire sales on every block. It has anything but grandeur. It's decadent and sinister. I've had the same email address for 13 years, and I'm not budging. That's where I staked my little claim on the electronic frontier, and by gum, I remember the Alamo and I ain't a-goin' to go. Therefore, my email in 2002 is full of 419 fraudsters from Nigeria. And unsolicited porn ads. And a galaxy of farfetched medical scams from malignant, unlicensed quacks peddling Viagra and growth hormone. With unreadable, unicode, collateral bomb-damage from the gigantic spam mills in China, Korea, Thailand and Taiwan. Let me put this to you straight: cyberspace has become a slum. It's a diseased slum, festering with Microsoft Outlook viruses. The viruses turn people into unwilling, unwitting agents of corruption and destruction. If you dare to use Microsoft's web products, which are so easily and cruelly sabotaged, then you run a gruesome, unconscionable risk of doing horrible virus damage to your best friends and your closest collaborators. You can give AIDs or herpes to the people who choose to have sex with you, but you can give Klez.E to people you don't even know. That is a pretty far cry from the antiseptic Euclidean vistas of virtual reality. Cyberspace in 2002 is a high-tech low-life slum straight out of William Gibson's NEUROMANCER. That's a great book, but the people who have to live in that book are pretty damn far from happy. If you could find all these busy people who are ruining the Internet for us, all these swindlers and vandals and porn-whores and stock kiters and so forth, and you could get them to surround this beautiful little gated community of ours here, man, would they look scary. You'd never physically choose to hang out with the likes of these malefactors, but the Net ships 'em right into your office or bedroom, rain or shine, 60-60-24-7-365. So, you know, where is the civility? Where is the law and order? Where is the government? There ain't any. Spies, that's what we've got instead of any legitimate government. Man oh man, there are a lot of spies on the Internet. More every day. The place is crawling with 'em. Consider last week's British Internet scandal. The British government declares, "Well, we're going to store everybody's websurfing records and their email, so if any government official wants to spy on what you're doing, they can make that happen pronto!" What a grand vision, eh? Wonderfully comprehensive: Orwell would blush. So the British press and citizenry are like, "What? You're storing *everything* I do on the Net, and you want to filter it and mine it and show it to *anybody*? Oh my God, doesn't that contravene the Helsinki Declaration, and the UN declaration of human rights, and fifteen leventy- dozen European privacy statutes, and even the Magna Carta?" But the British government and their happy spies say, "Aw come on! It's just the Internet!" They expect everyone to accept that, because really, could the standards there be any lower? How could *spies* make it worse? Spies are as happy as a pig in slop! People think I make this stuff up. And it *is* like science fiction. Because it's all about "the technological sublime." It's all about the sense of wonder, and its limits as a political and industrial policy. The Vision Thing. You are supposed to have a vision thing, even if you are one of our President Bushes. Because without vision, the people perish. Without vision, the means always dominate the ends. Without vision, the least little shock to the system is an existential crisis of confidence. A "sublime" thing inspires awe and wonder. It's fantastic, amazing, and astounding. It has grandeur, it ruptures the everyday. The sublime is a liberating spectacle that lifts the human spirit to the plateaus of high imagination. Science fiction dotes on this practice. You can go back to the historical roots of science fiction, and you can see science fiction methodically using the technological sublime as a kind of all-purpose cleanser. It's rooting out the sewers of a stale civilization by making extravagant promises of better things to come. Railroads, photography, aviation, giant dams, rural electrification (I know that sounds corny to us, but the Soviets used to be very big on that), atomic power and atomic weapons, space flight, lysergic acid, television, computers, virtual reality, and the Information Superhighway. All grist for the mill, folks. The clock never stops ticking. The true grandeur of technology is not to be found in any actual technologies. It's AM/FM, the severe difference between Actual Machines, AM, and Fantastic Magic, FM. A grand challenge is a grand challenge because it's not an actual machine but a sublime concept, a goal, an aspiration. Once it's a machine, it's no longer a challenge, it is hardware. Science-fiction is crammed with imaginary technologies: time machines, interplanetary starships and human-like robots. They stay sublime, they don't get stale. Because they're never made real. Due to human nature, familiarity breeds contempt, especially for technology. Technologies that are integrated into the fabric of everyday life can no longer be perceived as "technology." No matter how grand and elaborate and complex they may be. My teenage daughter has a Pentium III running Windows 95. She knows it's a piece of junk. Because it is. It's stale and old. It doesn't matter how much fantastic press it got in 1995. Many technologies of profound cultural importance, such as immunization, plumbing, recycling and the birth control pill, never become sublime. They are high technology without the high. The height within high technology has very little to do with the scientific principles involved or any inherent difficulties of the engineering. The height is entirely a social judgement. It has distinctly metaphysical overtones. Science fiction is one of the arenas in which these judgements are cast, in which some forms of technological advance are valorized as marvelous and worthy of mass attention, while others remain the obscure work of specialists or even die off entirely. And the clock never stops ticking, especially for science fiction. Sublimity is as thin as lipstick, it wears off at a kiss. The sense of wonder has a very short shelf-life. The Space Shuttle is still sublime, even though it is three decades old. It's clunky, and it's rusty, and it has severe software and hardware problems, and it kills people, and it has no destination to which to "shuttle". But the Shuttle is still romantic and futuristic. Why? Because it's not familiar. You can't buy one on eBay or Amazon. We need the technological sublime. The technological sublime is a narrative, it's a cultural story. It's something we tell ourselves to get out of bed in the morning. It has its difficulties and its shortcomings, but the other narrations are *worse.* Like the narrative of Al Qaeda necromancy, which boldly claims that history will stand still, and we'll all be holy and sacred forever, just like in the mythic early times of the Koran, if only enough of us blow ourselves up. I'm not going to overdo it here with my literary topics, ladies and gentlemen. Osama bin Laden may be a noted poet, but we American pop authors have some interesting technical challenges of our own. Here's a good one: how the hell do you write a thriller novel in a world that has cellphones? I happen to be writing a thriller novel right now: in fact, I'm here researching it, not that you'd ever guess. I'm not really here to pontificate at you. I'm here to soak up your grand ideas for use in fiction, because I need them even worse than you do. It's amazing how little technical room is left for the customary cliches of a thriller novel, in this, our modern, digitized, networked society. No more car chases == because I just use my cellphone and I call the cops in the next town. No more gunfights in deserted warehouses == I just use my cellphone and I call the cops. No more trailing the spy to his sinister lair == I just use my cellphone and I call up the cop's video monitors. I'm an author, but I get it about about gizmos. I have to, but I don't mind that much. I'm eager to get with the machinery. I've got a feverish literary need to step closer to the techno-fire here. I'm blissfully yielding to the hands-on imperative. So let get right down to some brass virtual tacks here, shall we? Let me demo a couple of my favorite blue-sky notions out of your field of endeavor. Nothing up my sleeves, but I'll pull us a couple of sci-fi rabbits from way outside of the box here. We'll see if they interbreed. Here's my first pitch. It may be slightly familiar to those of you who watch Jordan Pollack's lab, because heaven knows I do. Jordan Pollack is into genetic algorithms, he likes to evolve machines. He had some jointed plastic blocks in the lab that are wriggling around at random. Their performance is measured, the best models get rewarded and replicated. Pretty soon they are wriggling around on the lab bench with some impressive ease and fluidity. So much for the real world. It's grand sci-fi vision time. Let's imagine this experiment ramped way up to petaflops and exaflops capacity. Very high granularity. Exquisitely accurate simulated physics. At that level of computational power you could go a lot farther than primitive jointed blocks. I'll propose that you could get a petaflops computer to grow machine tools. That's right. I mean actual three-dimensional, fully working, mechanical devices. They're not made on assembly lines, they're grown inside computers. They're virtual, and they do all their research and development as virtual objects, and when they get good, then you make them real. Yes, I know this notion is farfetched, but I wrote a science fiction story about this. It won an award and was widely anthologized, so hey, that concept is definitely paying off for me. Maybe you start small, by simulating and evolving, say, some primitive, simple tools, like can-openers and mousetraps. It's pretty easy to scan and input a can-opener or a mousetrap. You might seed your artificial physics with the design of some conventional mousetrap, and see how they evolve. But it's yet more interesting to simply litter the simulated landscape with objects that act like mice, and attack them with soft, helpless, gelatinous blobs. You don't want to pre-judge the phase space of the problem by making any human decisions about possible methods of trapping mice. Get the human out of the loop entirely, that's the scheme. Reward any possible mechanical entity that can grab or mangle a simulated mouse. Let them crossbreed. Like the mice themselves, I guess. Kind of a genetic-algorithm, arms race thing. Have an overseer program keeping tabs. Whenever a mouse gets whacked, a bell goes off. You run to the screen, and you see this hour's brand-new mousekiller doing its virtual stuff. Human beings rush over and stare with eyes like saucers and == man, they can't believe it! Nobody would *ever* have thought that a device like that could ever catch a mouse == but you know, we got the complete design specs for it right here in memory! We just hit 'print' and this unprecedented mousetrap will be smelted out for us on the spot! We'll see how it works in real life! Maybe we can put our logo on it and sell a million of them on eBay! Ralph Waldo Emerson, stand back! We *grew* a better mousetrap! The world's beating a path to our door! Call the reporters! Put it on the website! Once we've got that part of the grand challenge down... and hey, I'm not claiming it's easy == we want to extend the process to the big stuff. Heavy iron. For instance, internal combustion engines. We go over to Bill Ford's River Rouge plant. Bill Ford is a grandfather himself by now, but you know, Bill Ford is still a visionary. And we tell him: Bill, Mr. Ford, my good man, let's put a big piece of Detroit iron in this computer here. That's right, Bill, here in this titanium laptop. We're running Linux in this baby and not only is it freeware, we actually *grew* all the code in this laptop. So there. You can trust us with your industry and your revenue stream, Bill, we're computer scientists, we know what we're doing. You just stick the manufacturing specs for the latest Ford engine in here, and we start systematically disturbing its components in random ways. We'll see which configuration delivers the most horsepower for the least fuel consumption. Ladies and gentlemen, I know that simulating an entire automobile engine at very low granularity would be a rather difficult task. But once you've done that, you ought to be able to subject this virtual engine to all kinds of unprecedented indignities. You can explore huge regions of the possible design space that would never occur to any merely intelligent human being. If evolution can bring us pterodactyls and coral reefs, why can't it make us a car? Or for you DARPA types: what happens when you crossbreed a Predator aircraft with an Israeli Bulldog drone? Of course, billions of these bastardized spy aircraft will be total junk, they won't fly at all and can't communicate their data from sensor-to-shooter, but who cares? Computers are great at sorting. An exaflops machine just keeps remorselessly grinding out new models, like monkeys typing Shakespeare. You never see the billions and trillions of failed mutants. You'll only see the lottery winners. Let's go just a little further with the concept, shall we? One more dainty step down the garden path. Suppose you simulate the human body. Human bodies usually have pretty good on-site system administrators, but just how well have their capacities really been exploited? It's pretty amazing how long it took people to devise the Australian crawl in swimming. There may be aspects of human body movement that never occur to us == because we live inside human bodies. We lack the proper objectivity, that's the problem. What we need is a kind of New Economy, new business model breakthrough for moving our own bodies. How many undiscovered judo throws are there, for instance? It's all corny, mystical Eastern handicraft, judo, and karate, and yoga, and such; we never digitized all that, we never worked it out methodically as a problem in physics. Imagine a soldier trained in forms of hand- to-hand combat that had been discovered in computer searches of the entire phase space of the physical mechanics of combat. He might perform weird but deadly movements that are utterly counterintuitive. He's simply stun the opponent through sheer disbelief. When he got wound-up, it would look like outtakes from THE MATRIX. Ladies and gentlemen, yes, I know that THE MATRIX is a sci-fi movie. In my game, you get the good stuff where you find it, okay? I don't have to name-check sci-fi movies up here. I could have stolen you something nice and exciting from the many bright and accomplished people at Microsoft Research and Development. I pay attention to them, too. I know they're into stuff like a Sensory Pocket PC that that detects touch, tilt and motion; and Chinese text-to-speech software that probably detects Chinese piracy in real-time. So I tried that. I Googled it. I surfed over to the Microsoft Research "Archived Headlines", but since they are a modern computer company instead of a big-budget science fiction movie, this is what I got off their web page: [Microsoft][SQL Server Driver] Invalid object name 'features'. Drivers error '80040e37' So, back to the science fiction. Now I'll tell you what's really got my attention lately, the stuff in your field that I consider really groovy and with-it and hip. Ubicomp. Oh yeah. I know it's got a million names. All kinds of jargon. Pervasive computing. Wearable computers. Intelligent environment. Wireless internet. Peripheral computing. Self-configuring, adaptively coordinated Embedded Nets. Things That Think. Locator Tags. JINI. Wearware. Personal Area Networking. And so forth. This kind of disruption in my beloved English language is like the rumblings of a tectonic fault. The signs are very good that something large, expensive and important will tear loose there. I personally prefer the word "ubicomp" because it sounds so cheap. Ubicomp: that sounds like you go down to the hardware store and buy a few gallons. You don't have to genuflect to it, but it's still a grand challenge. Because ubicomp is truly a profound idea. It has grandeur, and better yet, it's not metaphysical. You don't have to handwave with any big verbal catch-all terms like "artificial intelligence". Or "evolution." Or "nano-" anything. Or "virtual" anything. And that's *good.* Ubicomp is about physicality. So ubicomp's got what my friend and colleague Judith Berman likes to call an "empirical referent." When you've got an empirical referent, you can't just make it all up and sell stock in it. You have to demo or die. You're got an anchor point in consensus reality. This is, of course, the very opposite of what Judith Berman and I try to achieve when we are writing science fiction, but that's why we're not in your industry. Suppose that ubicomp really took off. What would that mean, how would that feel? Well, the first suggested uses for ubicomp are pretty primitive: because the chips are too big and they need a lot of power. A refrigerator is always plugged into the wall. So maybe my ubicomp refrigerator reads the bar-codes on all the groceries that enter and leave it. It answers my cellphone when I call it from the grocery, and it gets me up to speed how old the yogurt is. Cars have plenty of onboard power. So my ubicomp car gets to become a dangerous, highly distracting, mobile office on wheels. It's reading textfiles aloud over its radio speakers. It's taking voicemail. It asks for handy directions from satellites overhead and the local street- signs. The tires complain when the tread gets low. The gas tank knows all its favorite gas stations in the area. These innovations just add a sexy blink and smile to products that already exist. They aren't grand ubicomp challenges. The grand challenge in ubicomp is to reform the basic, primal relationships between humanity and things. If physical objects misbehaved as badly as modern computer software does, then human life would become hellish. It would be murderous. This is definitely a grand challenge, because it is also the kind of nightmare one reads in the darkest tales from RISKS DIGEST. "Risks to the Public in Computers and Related Systems" from the ACM == I love that publication, I read it faithfully. The comic potential alone makes it more than worth my time as a novelist. Well, when *everything* public is a "computer related system," then there's no limit to the risk. A single instant's bad driving can kill you and your family. Automated kitchens can slice, dice and fry the unwary. So those aren't good places to start. So what is a good place to start with ubicomp? Let's talk about express shipping. Here we have a nice big camel's nose in the tent for a break-out ubicomp scenario. With the modern express package, chip-function is added to a portable object in a way which is not only convenient, but a definite competitive advantage. I can follow a package via Internet from distant New York right to the doorstep of my business. If I could keep that schedule for all raw materials that down to the minute, then I could reschedule my inventory, keep stockpiles low and lean, do just-in-time assembly, and make a whole lot of money. I don't need a "smart" package or an "agent" package. I don't much want to "talk" to a package. I don't want a package tugging my sleeve, stalking me, or selfishly begging for attention and commitment. If a package really wants to please me and earn my respect, it needs to tell me three basic things: What is it? (It's the very thing I ordered, hopefully). Where is it? (It's on its way at location x). And what condition it is in? (It's functional, workable, unbroken, good to go). The shipping company already needs to know these three things for their own convenience. So they might as well tell me, too. So I don't have to swallow my ubicomp like castor oil. My ubicomp arrives in a subtle way, as a kind of value-added service. So the object arrives in my possession with the ubicomp attached. It's a tracking tag. When I sign for that object, I keep the tracking tag. It's mine now. Ho ho ho! Let's say that it's something I'm really anxious to have: it's a highly evolved mousetrap. The mice in my house are driving me nuts, because I'm a programmer. I eat nothing but take-out Szechuan food, and everything in my house is fatally disordered. Luckily my new, computer-designed mousetrap quickly and horribly slaughters all my mice. Not one vermin is left alive. That's great service, but now I'm anxious to get rid of it. I really don't need a super-mousetrap attracting attention, if I get lucky and a hot date comes over to help me play "The Sims." Given that I'm a congenital slob, of course the mice soon return. But by then, I've already forgotten my mousetrap. Out of sight, out of mind. I paid a lot of money for it, but I already forgot where I put it. But suppose that my mousetrap still has that shipping chip. That means that the mousetrap answers when called. I just look up its location on my home tracking network. The mousetrap is still responding to my three basic questions: (1) it's a mousetrap, (2) it's in the northeast corner of the attic, and (3) it still works fine! Those mice are in peril of their lives! Having benefitted once or twice by this, I take the logical next step. I tag everything that I already own, lawnmowers, garden rakes, tennis shoes, carkeys, remote control, my eyeglasses, the works. Now I have a ubicomp menagerie. I even tag the mice. After all, if I know where the mice are at all times, then I don't have to kill them. I just haul the mice out of the walls and I sterilize them. Then the mice become a kind of tame garbage disposal system. Other huge benefits ensue. I no longer need to sweat and struggle to put my possessions into order. My things can never get lost or misplaced. They can't even be stolen from me, because the ubicomp tags are too small to see, and any thief just becomes a kind of large mouse to be tracked down by bored cops and annihilated. Ladies and gentlemen, I am a ubicomp groupie. I regard ubicomp as a really nifty, high-concept scheme. If it were just a matter of intellectual sexiness, sci-fi appeal, and technical brio, man, we could breeze for this technology. We'd be rolling out the old IPOs, and getting cover stories in WIRED magazine, and Dell would be underpricing us, and hoo boy, the sky's the limit. But that's not the way your industry works these days. Because people, your industry is showing its age. And it has pulled that old Grand Challenge hat trick a few times too many. Okay, check this out. Here is a clear precursor to ubicomp, poking its head above the trench here, getting ready to charge the no-man's-land. Ultra-wideband. Wi- fi. Airport. 802dot11. 802 dot 11 b and g. AirHead. Nokia Rooftop. Mesh Network SkyPilot I-Burst base-station smart cells. Ladies and gentlemen, we are having a classic, distributed, heavily networked, spontaneous, logarithmic orders of magnitude, early-Internet style, popular eruption here. This is the computer community at its anarchic, inventive finest, this ultra-wideband scheme. Only this time around, the clock has been ticking. The Digital Revolution has a track record, and it's not entirely pretty. The Non-digital Counter-revolution really gets it about the menace that a disruptive innovation like this represents to the status quo. They don't fight fair, because, frankly, neither do computer geeks. Fairness was never an issue here. Because "fairness" is a political word, it's not a technical word. There's no such thing as "technical fairness." But there are still huge, severe issues of power and access and money. So, the many frightened opponents of ultrawideband are not sitting still like the wallflowers at the sock hop. On the contrary, they are going for the throat of this young thing. They are going to wallop that little genie on the back of the head with a blackjack and stuff it right back in the bottle. Check this out: The U.S. Federal Communications Commission approves the technology for limited commercial use in February. But in come some heavy operators: all the major wireless carriers, the Federal Aviation Administration, the U.S. Department of Defense, satellite radio companies, and the entire global positioning system community. They want to strangle ultra-wideband in its crib == to kill it while it's still stuck in the standards. Okay, just like the Internet, ultra-wideband is something used for decades by the military. It's spooky stuff. It is used to communicate wirelessly without being detected by opposition forces. All of a sudden the Silicon Valley crowd gets it about the raw potential. Not the "commercial" potential, really, because there doesn't seem to be a business app for it == but, you know, the good old-fashioned *potential* potential. Build it and they will come, right? Ultra-wideband is low-cost, low-power, high-speed, and best of all, it is the number-one alternative to a whole crowd of normal-wideband, stocks-on-fire, money- losing technologies run by guys like Gary Winnick of Global Crossing, and Bernie Ebbers of Worldcom, and the Rigas family of Adelphia Communications. So, ultra-wideband is a grand challenge with a lot of deadly enemies. Experienced enemies who are sick of being burned by disruptive new technologies. Out comes the Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. Nine hundred companies file concerns with the FCC. The GPS will fritz, they say; airplanes will fall out of the sky. This is cynical baloney. Everybody knows that, but evil stuff like that has to be said; because these are classic not-in-my-back- yard tactics. Cynical, tooth-gritting tactics that people use when their backs are against the wall. This is the sort of civil-disobedience fervor that we see from anti-genetics campaigners and anti-nuclear activists. Except that instead of being hippie zealots, it's guys the likes of ABC Disney and the music recording industry. Wi-Fi isn't Al Qaeda, they're not going to knock down any airplanes. But this is common or garden competitive practice for your industry these days. Obstructive incumbents. Monopolization. Vicious infighting. Phony-baloney regulatory obstacles. Computation doesn't lack grand ideas. There's nothing gone wrong with Moore's Law. People in Nature magazine this week are making transistors out of single atoms! But it doesn't much matter how pretty these ideas are, because your industry has been debased. The heavy players in your industry gave up expecting any justice from the Justice Department, or any civility from civil society. They are having a civil war, where guys who own the operating system and guys who own the intellectual property go for each other like Lebanese militia factions. It is war to the knife inside the box. In the eyes of the public, your captains of industry have no honor. They are either fatcat swindling behemoths ruthlessly trampling the public good, or else they are self-appointed digital fire ants giving Mickey Mouse the death of a thousand bites. This is not a pretty sight. Your best friends won't tell you == but I'm a science fiction writer, and most of you guys are academics or in government, so I'll tell you. The computer industry is full of smart geeks who never took out their garbage. They were so busy that they forgot about elementary business hygiene. They smell. They are becoming repulsive. Now, computation is my favorite little industry. But you know, if you never take out your garbage, and the clock keeps ticking, then you've got vermin. It rots from the head down, the computer industry. The moguls in computing aren't knights in shining armor, these are some of the meanest robber barons anybody has ever seen. These guys are like ninja assassins armed with rusty stilettos. They are stealing each other's market oxygen. They are stabbing each other's babies. They went straight from Internet anarchy to feudalist monopoly domination. They went straight from the barbarism of the garage startup to the decadence of bribing the government, suborning accountants, and paying themselves with stock options that aren't on the company books. And oh my goodness did the chickens come home and start roosting. They never clean anything up. They just dump the last box and start over. The Internet stinks right now because we are getting the Internet we deserve. Ladies and gentlemen, it doesn't give me any pleasure to tell you these things. They are painful things, and they are ugly things, and they are shameful and demeaning things, things unworthy of a healthy industry, things unworthy of a functional government, things unworthy of a free people. But I'm telling you the truth, and you know it. You know it *better* than I know it. Okay == to be painfully, totally honest == maybe it *does* gives me a little pleasure to tell you these things. But to have a garbage problem is not the end of the world. If you're a lazy hacker slob who lives on take-out Chinese and Cheetos, you can reform. I've seen it done. You grow up, that's the secret. You get older, you take responsibility, you face up to it. Arthur C. Clarke, a great science fiction writer, made up an interesting aphorism once. "Any technology that is sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic." But that doesn't mean that any technology ever *is* magic == just because the rubes up in the gallery can't tell the difference. You want to see an industry with a serious garbage problem, check out the *nuclear* industry. The computer industry is still young. It's not as young as it thinks it is, but at least it's still kind of imaginative and dreamy, it hasn't become a byword for warfare, radiological dirty-bombing and permanent contamination. The truth is that ALL technologies have garbage. Until they can pick up after themselves, they are immature. Any garbage that is sufficiently advanced is also indistinguishable from magic. It may look magic, but it's still garbage. Ladies and gentlemen, although I've been harsh with you, I am bringing you a message of hope and aspiration. What if it's *smart* garbage? When ubicomp become garbage (as all gizmos and gadgets are inherently likely to do) it can be smart garbage! It's garbage that knows that it's garbage. It's garbage that can identify itself to the junk recycler. It doesn't go out of sight, out of mind, where it's allowed to fester like a leftover computer virus. Without vision, the people perish; but *with* some vision, what the heck, let's live it up! The gizmos fold themselves right back into the production stream. They don't spew toxins or waste, because even the trash is computational. We've got a gizmo that is smart enough to make its peace with the clock. It truly got ahead of its time. I see by my digital wristwatch here that time stops for no man, and I am out of time too. That's all I have to tell you tonight. Thanks for entertaining my speculations. I hope you have a great, productive conference. O=c=O O=c=O O=c=O O=c=O O=c=O YES, I REALLY ENJOYED THAT O=c=O O=c=O O=c=O O=c=O O=c=O -------------------- End of forwarded message -------------------- -- / [|] Sean Neakums [|] \ From doug at pigeonhold.com Tue Jul 2 02:31:33 2002 From: doug at pigeonhold.com (Doug Winter) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Best weblog this week In-Reply-To: <20020701215055.GA52801@yoyo.org>; from pgl@yoyo.org on Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 10:50:55PM +0100 References: <20020701213706.GA52399@yoyo.org> <20020701174203.A20926@tastytronic.net> <20020701215055.GA52801@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <20020702103133.B29980@pigeonhold.com> On Mon 01 Jul, quoth Peter Lowe: > On Jul 01, Lukas Eklund wrote: > > Because I have nothing better to do: > > > > http://flynn.zork.net/cl/?q=1025559676 > > I laugh at your 38 characters, and poke oversized URLs in the eye > with my 28: http://url.v3.net/1025560003 http://tinyurl.com/jf9 22 characters. i win. -- key 1024D/6973E2CF print | There are only 10 types of people in this 2C95 66AD 1596 37D2 41FC | world: those who understand binary and those 609F 76C0 A4EC 6973 E2CF | who don't. http://www.antisigma.com | From smcmahon at eiv.com Tue Jul 2 05:25:52 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] little scientologist children to abandon america for austria In-Reply-To: <200207011938.32804.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <200207011938.32804.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20020702122552.GA32621@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin dep quotation: > > children were purchased several years ago by l. ron cruise and his > former ho. 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Damn you! -- Litres of beer drunk in the Czech Republic so far this year: 820619266.18 http://prague.tv/toys/beer/ From drobnox at visi.com Tue Jul 2 07:38:45 2002 From: drobnox at visi.com (doctor obnox son of a bitch) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <877kkjcjm9.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020628184426.GO19180@zork.net> <877kkjcjm9.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020702143845.GG10141@isis.visi.com> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 12:02:06PM -0700, Mister Bad had the audacity to opine: > >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: > > NM> Man, I used to live in Fremont back when it was the struggling > NM> second-fiddle to the U District. Now it's chok full of > NM> yuppies and Urban Outfitters and bullshit like that. > > Yeah, well, Fremont is no longer Where It's At, that's for sure. > > Newark is the place to be nowadays, baby! Hipster town USA! > > ~Mr. Bad > > P.S. Union City is running a dark-horse campaign, too. > Never underestimate the staggering hipness of Ho-Ho-Kus. -- Here's that flapjack ........Eric J. Gustafson Put it in your pocket, 'til I get back ......................... Goin' downtown, to see a man ......................... Ain't got time to shake your hand .........drobnox@visi.com From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Jul 2 08:01:53 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Pr0n frenzy! Message-ID: <1025622113.3206.4.camel@zingiber> Hey kids! Free pr0n! -----Forwarded Message----- From: Bennett Haselton To: list-peacefire-broadcast@osiris.978.org Subject: WebSENSE censorware maker publishes "daily sex links" Date: 02 Jul 2002 07:04:42 -0700 [You are receiving this after signing up for membership in Peacefire at http://www.peacefire.org/join/. To unsubscribe yourself from this list and cancel your Peacefire membership, see unsubscription instructions at the end of this message.] WebSENSE, one of the best-known makers of blocking software, has started publishing a daily list of porn sites that are blocked by WebSENSE but not by their competitors. If you visit http://www.websense.com/ and click the big "Test the Competition" button, and follow the instructions from there, WebSENSE displays a current list of sex sites that are blocked by WebSENSE but that are currently accessible through either SurfControl or SmartFilter. WebSENSE claims to publish a new such list every day. Well, almost. As a report by Seth Finkelstein indicates, at , many of the "unblocked" sites actually are blocked by the competing programs -- either they're just front pages that redirect you to other sites that *are* blocked, or the sites are blocked by IP address instead of by hostname. But many of the sites really are unblocked. I haven't tested this (and I'm not recommending that you should), but presumably if you're in a school using SurfControl or SmartFilter, you could make WebSENSE your start page and download a new batch of porn every morning. The CEO of WebSENSE, John Carrington, said in a 1999 press release that the Internet "delivers thousands of new objectionable Web sites each day. Sites that are directly accessible through our nation's classrooms." No kidding, John! But don't think that their latest stunt means that WebSENSE has lost concern for the morals of the nation's youth -- before you can view the page of unblocked sex sites, they make you click a button indicating that you agree you are at least 18 years old. According to an article in MSNBC this morning at , SurfControl and SmartFilter have no plans to add WebSENSE to their list of blocked sites. This is odd, since if any other Web site started doing this, they'd get blocked right away. In fact, the way that WebSENSE set up their demo page, the only way to block it would be to block the entire WebSENSE.com domain. (Since WebSENSE could have easily avoided this by placing the whole "demo" in a separate directory like http://www.websense.com/demo/ that could have been blocked without blocking the whole domain, the fact that they didn't do this, suggests that they're basically daring SurfControl and SmartFilter to block their whole site.) The page doesn't really prove anything, since just as there are sites blocked by WebSENSE but not by SurfControl, there are going to be sites blocked by SurfControl but not by WebSENSE, and SurfControl could do the same thing if they wanted. WebSENSE was just the first censorware company smartassed enough to do something like this; when Seth told me about it, I thought it sounded like something I would have done if I had been them. Our own report on WebSENSE is at http://www.peacefire.org/censorware/WebSENSE/ listing some sites that they blocked as "Sex" when we tested it, including an organization called KinderGarten funding free vaccinations for Indian children, the Spanish chapter of the Red Cross, and the Jewish Federation of Northeastern Pennsylvania. -Bennett ------ To leave Peacefire and unsubscribe yourself from this list, send an empty message to: list-peacefire-broadcast-unsubscribe@osiris.978.org The only requirement for being a member of Peacefire is to be subscribed to peacefire-broadcast, but if you unsubscribe from this list you will no longer be a member. -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ From dsaklad at gnu.org Tue Jul 2 08:37:29 2002 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] New catalog. Boston Public Library. Message-ID: What do you folks out there think of the lib's new catalog at http://www.bpl.org/catalogs/frame_mbln.htm Cheers! and a Happy Fourth! oo__ Don Warner Saklad Weblog guide to problematical Boston Public Library use http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories From dsaklad at gnu.org Tue Jul 2 08:38:16 2002 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Integrated Library System Message-ID: See also http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=epixtech+%22boston+public+library%22 From nick at zork.net Tue Jul 2 10:26:47 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Ever see a commie drink water? Message-ID: <20020702172647.GQ28056@zork.net> http://slate.msn.com/?id=2067578 > At 5 p.m., half an hour before the conclusion of his > 10-and-a-half-hour shift, Italie's supervisor called him into the > personnel office, where he was greeted by the plant's head of > security. "Because of your views of the U.S. government, which are > contrary to those of this agency, you are a disruptive force and > cannot work here anymore," he said, according to Italie. "Take your > things and go." -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From pgl at yoyo.org Tue Jul 2 12:09:32 2002 From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Best weblog this week In-Reply-To: <20020702103133.B29980@pigeonhold.com> References: <20020701213706.GA52399@yoyo.org> <20020701174203.A20926@tastytronic.net> <20020701215055.GA52801@yoyo.org> <20020702103133.B29980@pigeonhold.com> Message-ID: <20020702190932.GA81623@yoyo.org> On Jul 02, Doug Winter wrote: > On Mon 01 Jul, quoth Peter Lowe: > > On Jul 01, Lukas Eklund wrote: > > > Because I have nothing better to do: > > > > > > http://flynn.zork.net/cl/?q=1025559676 > > > > I laugh at your 38 characters, and poke oversized URLs in the eye > > with my 28: http://url.v3.net/1025560003 > > http://tinyurl.com/jf9 > > 22 characters. > > i win. http://a.v3.net/ 16 characters. Hah. -- Litres of beer drunk in the Czech Republic so far this year: 821603683.41 http://prague.tv/toys/beer/ From nick at zork.net Tue Jul 2 12:45:22 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] Message-ID: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> IN ORDER TO MAKE THE USER EXPERIENCE MORE ROBUST, I WILL FORBID THE USE OF BACK-SCRATCHERS IN THE GAR LICENSE. ----- Forwarded message from Jesse Wagner ----- I hit the reset button accidentally with my back-scratcher right around kdeutils and now garnome complains of not having it as depend when I try make install. What should I do? -- http://fastmail.fm - No WWW (Wait-Wait-Wait) required -- garnome-list mailing list garnome-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/garnome-list ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From katherim at sfu.ca Tue Jul 2 12:57:12 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> from "Nick Moffitt" at Jul 02, 2002 12:45:22 PM Message-ID: <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> begin Nick scribbles: > IN ORDER TO MAKE THE USER EXPERIENCE MORE ROBUST, I WILL FORBID THE > USE OF BACK-SCRATCHERS IN THE GAR LICENSE. If you are going to do that, I think you should also forbid those little plastic half-spoon, half-fork things. They don't work as a spoon, or a fork, and are just generally unpleasant. I predict troubles if you tried to use GAR with one of those spoon-fork things. Cheers, Kaye From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Jul 2 13:12:10 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Pungenday, the 37th of Confusion, 3168, Katherine Merle Mason wrote: > begin Nick scribbles: > > > IN ORDER TO MAKE THE USER EXPERIENCE MORE ROBUST, I WILL FORBID THE > > USE OF BACK-SCRATCHERS IN THE GAR LICENSE. > > If you are going to do that, I think you should also forbid those little > plastic half-spoon, half-fork things. They don't work as a spoon, or a > fork, and are just generally unpleasant. I predict troubles if you tried > to use GAR with one of those spoon-fork things. He can't do that, the spork lobby has their fingers too many pies. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9IgkUjLHcIq3dHxYRAp7qAJwLjVYCbzGp7H/pl/hhnPRbw/EzMgCgj+f3 RLNnZeFcmu5bl41ddNmlOKY= =D1C0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 2 13:32:54 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] from Brooklyn to Bordeaux In-Reply-To: <20020701224739.GB15730@zgp.org> Message-ID: At 15.47 -0700 02-07-01, Don Marti wrote: >Anybody going to the "Law, Economy, Politic and libre software" >conference? This looks like a great thing. I got an email from the Danish superwoman on open source today and I actually consider going. Do you need to be there for the entire time? It is a very loooong session. And what about booze-crazy Crackmonkey-subscribers. Will you be there? If not one may prefer to spend the money on an American conference. Regards Mikael -If Lessig was a character in Winnie the Pooh it would definitely be Eeyore. (Mikael Pawlo 2002) _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From nick at zork.net Tue Jul 2 13:42:02 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org Message-ID: <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- Forwarded-by: Nev Dull IMS has teamed up with Internet Software Consortium (aka Paul Vixie and the folks who produce BIND) to try and wrest control of the .org registry from VeriSign. ICANN has it up for bid and all the other applicants are various combinations of commercial operators. We want to run .org in the public interest and release all of our code, secure the DNS, etc. We could really use a public show of support. Was wondering if you might chime in and possibly even try and encourage some of your cohorts to chime in? We think this is a pretty crucial test case on setting up a solid public infrastructure for core Internet functions. The degree of public support is one of the selection criteria, so we'd certainly appreciate your help. Regards, Carl Malamud Internet Multicasting Service Our proposal is at: http://trusted.resource.org/ Our show-your-support page is at: http://not.invisible.net/signals/bin/000055.shtml The ICANN process is at: http://www.icann.org/tlds/org/ The IMS home page is at: http://not.invisible.net/ ==================================================================== ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 2 13:49:08 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> Message-ID: At 13.42 -0700 02-07-02, Nick Moffitt wrote: >IMS has teamed up with Internet Software Consortium (aka Paul Vixie and >the folks who produce BIND) to try and wrest control of the .org >registry from VeriSign. ICANN has it up for bid and all the other >applicants are various combinations of commercial operators. We want >to run .org in the public interest and release all of our code, secure >the DNS, etc. >We could really use a public show of support. Was wondering if you >might chime in and possibly even try and encourage some of your cohorts >to chime in? We think this is a pretty crucial test case on setting up >a solid public infrastructure for core Internet functions. The degree >of public support is one of the selection criteria, so we'd certainly >appreciate your help. Ahhh - it is the beautiful domain games! Now on Crackmonkey! You can run, but you can't hide! So Vixie et al wants org? ISOC is on their tail (shameless self-promotion): http://grep.law.harvard.edu/article.pl?sid=02/06/19/155207 Without self-promo: http://www.isoc.org/dotorg All applicants for dot-org: http://www.icann.org/tlds/org/applications-received-18jun02.htm Regards Mikael -If Lessig was a character in Winnie the Pooh it would definitely be Eeyore. (Mikael Pawlo 2002) _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Jul 2 15:41:47 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: References: <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020702224146.GD30984@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > Ahhh - it is the beautiful domain games! Now on Crackmonkey! You can > run, but you can't hide! http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER6 -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 2 15:51:09 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020702224146.GD30984@zork.net> References: <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> Message-ID: At 15.41 -0700 02-07-02, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: >> Ahhh - it is the beautiful domain games! Now on Crackmonkey! You can >> run, but you can't hide! >http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER6 I tried to, but I could not think of anything more lame than anchor-tags. M -If Lessig was a character in Winnie the Pooh it would definitely be Eeyore. (Mikael Pawlo 2002) _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 2 15:54:58 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] from Brooklyn to Bordeaux In-Reply-To: <1025646974.4731.324.camel@zingiber> References: Message-ID: At 14.56 -0700 02-07-02, Don Marti wrote: >> This looks like a great thing. I got an email from the Danish superwoman on >> open source today and I actually consider going. >There's a Danish superwoman on open source? I am getting a few questions like this one from the almighty Mr Marti. Sorry to use your email in public like this, Don, but that was the only remotely decent one that I have received! The woman in question is of course: Anne ?stergaard, [anne@sslug.dk] http://www.sslug.dk If you are going to Bordeaux, you should drop her an email. She will know all the nifty conference speakers and the places to go off-campus .-) Regards Mikael -If Lessig was a character in Winnie the Pooh it would definitely be Eeyore. (Mikael Pawlo 2002) _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 2 15:56:37 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: References: <20020702224146.GD30984@zork.net> <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> Message-ID: At 00.51 +0200 02-07-03, Mikael Pawlo wrote: >>begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: >>> Ahhh - it is the beautiful domain games! Now on Crackmonkey! You can >>> run, but you can't hide! >>http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER6 >I tried to, but I could not think of anything more lame than anchor-tags. Mental Note Parker Lewis style: Lifetime goal: to be on the Crackmonkey FAQ. .-) Mikael -If Lessig was a character in Winnie the Pooh it would definitely be Eeyore. (Mikael Pawlo 2002) _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From katherim at sfu.ca Tue Jul 2 16:03:36 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: from "Mikael Pawlo" at Jul 03, 2002 12:56:37 AM Message-ID: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> begin Mik scribblings: > Lifetime goal: to be on the Crackmonkey FAQ. I think anyone who wants to be in the FAQ should be excluded on principle. It'll be a good paradox for you to solve, or at least, it will be amusing to watch you try to solve it. Cheers, Kaye From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Jul 2 16:18:47 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: References: <20020702224146.GD30984@zork.net> <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020702231846.GF31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Pungenday, the 37th of Confusion, 3168, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > At 00.51 +0200 02-07-03, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > >>begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > >>> Ahhh - it is the beautiful domain games! Now on Crackmonkey! You can > >>> run, but you can't hide! > >>http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER6 > >I tried to, but I could not think of anything more lame than anchor-tags. > > Mental Note Parker Lewis style: > Lifetime goal: to be on the Crackmonkey FAQ. My old lifetime goal was to be the #1 Brian Hicks on google, but I hadn't counted on LiveJournal's google juice, so I need a new goal now. World domination's too easy, and world peace is too cliche. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9IjTTjLHcIq3dHxYRAlkjAJ9WMplVCyf4zoWhDLwwepfRKU3fGwCfbkMV M6Dq+bJqvrnKLbpq9aumlnY= =ilsJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Jul 2 16:35:48 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> begin Katherine Merle Mason quotation: > I think anyone who wants to be in the FAQ should be excluded on > principle. http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER28 -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Jul 2 16:45:32 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Pungenday, the 37th of Confusion, 3168, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Katherine Merle Mason quotation: > > I think anyone who wants to be in the FAQ should be excluded on > > principle. > > http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER28 Haha, MICROS~1 ! That's so clever! That's even better than Micro$oft! I'm going to tell all of my friends! - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9IjsajLHcIq3dHxYRAreLAKCVJD/DHX05OGR4B2493ps+DZ3ougCg7hGo Tkoqh5qkkJ5FjgJdXudDJXg= =O8D6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Jul 2 17:12:18 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020703001218.GF30984@zork.net> begin Brian D. Hicks quotation: > > http://crackmonkey.org/faq.html#ANSWER28 > > Haha, MICROS~1 ! That's so clever! That's even better than > Micro$oft! I'm going to tell all of my friends! That was 27, and it was Bernard who originally wrote that, I think. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From henrik at enberg.org Tue Jul 2 17:30:33 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: .org In-Reply-To: <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> ("Brian D. Hicks"'s message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:45:32 -0500") References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <87wusdzm8m.fsf@enberg.org> "Brian D. Hicks" writes: > Haha, MICROS~1 ! That's so clever! That's even better than > Micro$oft! I'm going to tell all of my friends! It is funny because it's true. I tried to use a CD burned on my Debian system on a WinXP system a while back, I only got 8.3 files. -- Yo mama's so ugly, when she was born, they named her "Damn!" From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Tue Jul 2 18:18:16 2002 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: .org In-Reply-To: <87wusdzm8m.fsf@enberg.org> References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> <87wusdzm8m.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20020703011816.GA4344@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:30:33AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > "Brian D. Hicks" writes: > > > Haha, MICROS~1 ! That's so clever! That's even better than > > Micro$oft! I'm going to tell all of my friends! > > It is funny because it's true. I tried to use a CD burned on my Debian > system on a WinXP system a while back, I only got 8.3 files. > Yeah, that's becasue you mkisofs'd without the MICROSOFT joliet option. Good job, captain failure. -- erik bourget | "The power of guessing is infinite." ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | -- Denis Therien From henrik at enberg.org Tue Jul 2 18:32:32 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: .org In-Reply-To: <20020703011816.GA4344@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> (Erik Bourget's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:18:16 -0400") References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> <87wusdzm8m.fsf@enberg.org> <20020703011816.GA4344@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <87sn31zjdb.fsf@enberg.org> Erik Bourget writes: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:30:33AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: >> "Brian D. Hicks" writes: >> >> > Haha, MICROS~1 ! That's so clever! That's even better than >> > Micro$oft! I'm going to tell all of my friends! >> >> It is funny because it's true. I tried to use a CD burned on my Debian >> system on a WinXP system a while back, I only got 8.3 files. >> > > Yeah, that's becasue you mkisofs'd without the MICROSOFT joliet option. I don't _want_ any muthafuckin' proprietary extensions designed to give big corporations market lock-in. There are perfectly functional standardized CD-filesystems available. > Good job, captain failure. Yeah, I failed to suck up to da man. -- Yo mama's so nasty, I called her up for phone sex and she gave me an ear infection. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Jul 2 18:39:21 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: .org In-Reply-To: <20020703011816.GA4344@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> <87wusdzm8m.fsf@enberg.org> <20020703011816.GA4344@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20020703013921.GH31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Pungenday, the 37th of Confusion, 3168, Erik Bourget wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:30:33AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > > "Brian D. Hicks" writes: > > > > > Haha, MICROS~1 ! That's so clever! That's even better than > > > Micro$oft! I'm going to tell all of my friends! > > > > It is funny because it's true. I tried to use a CD burned on my Debian > > system on a WinXP system a while back, I only got 8.3 files. > > > > Yeah, that's becasue you mkisofs'd without the MICROSOFT joliet option. > > Good job, captain failure. Joliet? Why would he use those when the Rock Ridge extension gives you long filenames and permissions? And I believe you meant to say "MICROS~1. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9IlXIjLHcIq3dHxYRAnCEAKDh6ApS6f1sVCoPz28hBouNgMjGbQCfQH98 6wDmFYvTPw6xktYLdghJhqY= =HNkn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Tue Jul 2 18:35:41 2002 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: .org In-Reply-To: <87sn31zjdb.fsf@enberg.org> References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> <87wusdzm8m.fsf@enberg.org> <20020703011816.GA4344@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> <87sn31zjdb.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20020703013541.GA4566@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 03:32:32AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > Erik Bourget writes: > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:30:33AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > >> "Brian D. Hicks" writes: > >> > >> > Haha, MICROS~1 ! That's so clever! That's even better than > >> > Micro$oft! I'm going to tell all of my friends! > >> > >> It is funny because it's true. I tried to use a CD burned on my Debian > >> system on a WinXP system a while back, I only got 8.3 files. > >> > > > > Yeah, that's becasue you mkisofs'd without the MICROSOFT joliet option. > > I don't _want_ any muthafuckin' proprietary extensions designed to give > big corporations market lock-in. There are perfectly functional > standardized CD-filesystems available. OK, fine, use Rock Ridge then. At least it support UTF-8 filenames. Of course, it won't be readable on all platforms. > > Good job, captain failure. > > Yeah, I failed to suck up to da man. > GOOD JOB YOU REALLY SHOWED M$ THERE -- erik bourget | "The power of guessing is infinite." ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | -- Denis Therien From nick at zork.net Tue Jul 2 20:48:03 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] 5.25" EULA Message-ID: <20020703034803.GI30984@zork.net> http://www.cyberden.com/cgi-bin/showsinglesleeve.cgi?dir=u&file=unknown14.gif -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jdub at perkypants.org Tue Jul 2 21:57:38 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Powerful SDK In-Reply-To: <6u4rfia845.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020701164409.GU28056@zork.net> <20020701165451.GF1658@perkypants.org> <20020701171831.GY28056@zork.net> <20020702025327.GC1781@perkypants.org> <20020702054040.GL28056@zork.net> <20020702061506.GH1781@perkypants.org> <20020702062919.GN28056@zork.net> <6u4rfia845.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020703045738.GC15312@perkypants.org> > > mmmmmm... tmpfs.... > > Making YOUR SWAP work for YOU! Works harder for me than yo' momma. - Jeff -- "Basically my philosophy on release management is that it should be like police brutality." - Maciej Stachowiak From svanegmond at tinyplanet.ca Tue Jul 2 22:05:40 2002 From: svanegmond at tinyplanet.ca (Stephen van Egmond) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dear Oracle Message-ID: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> Could you tell me why the Debian project has seen fit to eliminate the task packages, in favour of the more braindead task: control file entry? Thanks, An annoyed Woody user. From andy at strugglers.net Tue Jul 2 22:37:42 2002 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:32 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> References: <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020703053742.GG2737@lug.org.uk> On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:42:02PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- > Forwarded-by: Nev Dull > > IMS has teamed up with Internet Software Consortium (aka Paul Vixie and > the folks who produce BIND) to try and wrest control of the .org > registry from VeriSign. And http://www.organicnames.org/ > Organic Names Limited is a new UK company bringing together the > resources of CentralNic and management expertise of Nominet UK to > run a safe reliable registry for the .org Top Level Domain. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From andy at strugglers.net Tue Jul 2 23:38:39 2002 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020703055126.GL30984@zork.net> References: <20020703055126.GL30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020703063839.GI2737@lug.org.uk> On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:51:26PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Ukrainians galore! Well done! Most people assume that is Britian. Which is of course gb. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From katherim at sfu.ca Tue Jul 2 23:49:25 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020703063839.GI2737@lug.org.uk> from "Andy Smith" at Jul 03, 2002 07:38:39 AM Message-ID: <200207030649.XAA14778@fraser.sfu.ca> begin Andy Smith scribbling: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:51:26PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Ukrainians galore! > > Well done! Most people assume that is Britian. Which is of course > gb. Duh. Everyone knows that gb is Gambia. Cheers, Kaye From jdub at perkypants.org Tue Jul 2 23:50:29 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020703063839.GI2737@lug.org.uk> References: <20020703055126.GL30984@zork.net> <20020703063839.GI2737@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20020703065029.GH15312@perkypants.org> > Well done! Most people assume that is Britian. Which is of course gb. Gone Britney? - Jeff -- "2.4.1ac17 is full of innovations and should be used with caution." - Linux Weekly News From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Jul 2 23:52:59 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020703063839.GI2737@lug.org.uk> References: <20020703055126.GL30984@zork.net> <20020703063839.GI2737@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20020703065259.GJ31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Prickle-Prickle, the 38th of Confusion, 3168, Andy Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:51:26PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Ukrainians galore! > > Well done! Most people assume that is Britian. Which is of course > gb. You are so clever. The real clever part is signing your e-mail, but not uploading the public key to a keyserver, so that if you say something you regret, you can just say that it was all faked, because nobody has the key to check. BRILLIANT! - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9Ip9JjLHcIq3dHxYRAiVoAKCCjJ5104mTTYSlrLQz/XYTBHXgOQCggutV Z4Yv+vWYuakDQ6zNy6YYc7M= =o1Db -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Jul 3 01:26:14 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020702143845.GG10141@isis.visi.com> (doctor obnox son of a bitch's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:38:45 -0500") References: <20020628184426.GO19180@zork.net> <877kkjcjm9.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020702143845.GG10141@isis.visi.com> Message-ID: <87it3xqkt5.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "dosoab" == doctor obnox son of a bitch writes: dosoab> Never underestimate the staggering hipness of Ho-Ho-Kus. Don't tell me what to underestimate, you fascist bastard. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work like you're gonna get fired, dance like Hunter S. Thompson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Jul 3 01:27:55 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> ("Brian D. Hicks"'s message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:12:10 -0500") References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "BDH" == Brian D Hicks writes: BDH> He can't do that, the spork lobby has their fingers too many BDH> pies. ha ha spork jokes. Hey, what's everybody think about BACON? ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work like you're gonna get fired, dance like Hunter S. Thompson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ron at vnetworx.net Wed Jul 3 05:15:29 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Subjugator of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror of Long Island) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020703053742.GG2737@lug.org.uk> References: <20020702204202.GC30984@zork.net> <20020703053742.GG2737@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <1025698530.1026.68035.camel@amory> On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 01:37, Andy Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:42:02PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from glen mccready ----- > > Forwarded-by: Nev Dull > > > > IMS has teamed up with Internet Software Consortium (aka Paul Vixie and > > the folks who produce BIND) to try and wrest control of the .org > > registry from VeriSign. > > And http://www.organicnames.org/ > > Organic Names Limited is a new UK company bringing together the > > resources of CentralNic and management expertise of Nominet UK to > > run a safe reliable registry for the .org Top Level Domain. "Safe reliable" doesn't belong in the same sentence with anything remotely related to Vixie. "vulnerable bloated convoluted" would be more like it. From ron at vnetworx.net Wed Jul 3 05:17:30 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Ron Guerin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <1025698650.1028.68106.camel@amory> On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 04:27, Mister Bad wrote: > Hey, what's everybody think about BACON? That depends on what my number is. From smcmahon at eiv.com Wed Jul 3 05:25:33 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20020703122533.GA5147@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Katherine Merle Mason quotation: > > I think anyone who wants to be in the FAQ should be excluded on > principle. It'll be a good paradox for you to solve, or at least, > it will be amusing to watch you try to solve it. I realize I haven't been here long enough for this opinion to matter much, but I think the above should go in the FAQ. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0i7T0ACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt1beQCgu/iUlbU4Iu5OFLmXxzorFxEN wcAAoKH5+hj6EtAMV/BAr/kGC8sS4/eR =OIo3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From smcmahon at eiv.com Wed Jul 3 05:56:02 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Mister Bad quotation: > > Hey, what's everybody think about BACON? Sir Francis, Kevin, or Beaumont? - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0i9GIACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt2rYACgyckc8rN2hHhXLkYSMB3l4w66 vEEAoKZEkedL6uIrkkQ0dck9dQm1nu5L =KVm7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikael at pawlo.com Wed Jul 3 06:00:15 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> References: from "Mikael Pawlo" at Jul 03, 2002 12:56:37 AM Message-ID: At 16.03 -0700 02-07-02, Katherine Merle Mason wrote: >> Lifetime goal: to be on the Crackmonkey FAQ. >I think anyone who wants to be in the FAQ should be excluded on >principle. It'll be a good paradox for you to solve, or at least, >it will be amusing to watch you try to solve it. I agree (please note that in the FAQ). Mikael -If Lessig was a character in Winnie the Pooh it would definitely be Eeyore. (Mikael Pawlo 2002) _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From drobnox at visi.com Wed Jul 3 08:03:58 2002 From: drobnox at visi.com (doctor obnox son of a bitch) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020703150358.GA19995@isis.visi.com> Mister Bad gorpa duppa meego zook: > >>>>> "BDH" == Brian D Hicks writes: > > BDH> He can't do that, the spork lobby has their fingers too many > BDH> pies. > > ha ha spork jokes. > > Hey, what's everybody think about BACON? > > ~Mr. Bad > Nitrites are great, but cadmium is so much better. -- Here's that flapjack ........Eric J. Gustafson Put it in your pocket, 'til I get back ......................... Goin' downtown, to see a man ......................... Ain't got time to shake your hand .........drobnox@visi.com From ellisonl at oracle.com Wed Jul 3 01:32:07 2002 From: ellisonl at oracle.com (Larry Ellison) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Dear Oracle In-Reply-To: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> (Stephen van Egmond's message of "Wed, 3 Jul 2002 01:05:40 -0400") References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> Message-ID: <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "SvE" == Stephen van Egmond writes: SvE> Could you tell me why the Debian project has seen fit to SvE> eliminate the task packages, in favour of the more braindead SvE> task: control file entry? No. ~Larry P.S. Your extraneous u's are sucking up bandwidth. The Internet was so much better before all your fucking Canadians. From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 3 08:15:28 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020703151528.GO30984@zork.net> oooh! dooooooooom! Stop it, kid! My knees are shakin'. Knock it off, yer scaaaaaring me. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- doom@nic0.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From drobnox at visi.com Wed Jul 3 08:20:48 2002 From: drobnox at visi.com (doctor obnox son of a bitch) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <87it3xqkt5.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020628184426.GO19180@zork.net> <877kkjcjm9.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020702143845.GG10141@isis.visi.com> <87it3xqkt5.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020703152048.GB19995@isis.visi.com> Mister Bad gorpa duppa meego zook: > >>>>> "dosoab" == doctor obnox son of a bitch writes: > > dosoab> Never underestimate the staggering hipness of Ho-Ho-Kus. > > Don't tell me what to underestimate, you fascist bastard. > > ~Mr. Bad > I'll start hyphenating "flapjack" the day you start hyphenating "pancake", you penis-wrinkle! -- Here's that flapjack ........Eric J. Gustafson Put it in your pocket, 'til I get back ......................... Goin' downtown, to see a man ......................... Ain't got time to shake your hand .........drobnox@visi.com From pgl at yoyo.org Wed Jul 3 08:50:41 2002 From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <1025698650.1028.68106.camel@amory> References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <1025698650.1028.68106.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> On Jul 03, Ron Guerin wrote: > That depends on what my number is. You're not a number! You're a FREE MAN! -- Litres of beer drunk in the Czech Republic so far this year: 825500774.97 http://prague.tv/toys/beer/ From ron at vnetworx.net Wed Jul 3 09:09:21 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Ron Guerin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <1025698650.1028.68106.camel@amory> <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <1025712562.1030.76042.camel@amory> On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 11:50, Peter Lowe wrote: > On Jul 03, Ron Guerin wrote: > > That depends on what my number is. > > You're not a number! You're a FREE MAN! You are mistaken. I am a citizen of the United States. You Europeans still believe that bullshit we send overseas about this being the land of freedom, eh? From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Wed Jul 3 09:37:15 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 2002 16:50:41 BST." <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <1025698650.1028.68106.camel@amory> <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <200207031637.g63GbFSQ011554@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 16:50:41 BST, Peter Lowe said: > On Jul 03, Ron Guerin wrote: > > That depends on what my number is. > > You're not a number! You're a FREE MAN! Only because the 14th amendment says we can't sell him. Not that we'd make much profit on him anyhow - he's the human equivalent of an AMC Pacer. From smcmahon at eiv.com Wed Jul 3 10:29:02 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020703151528.GO30984@zork.net> References: <20020703151528.GO30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020703172902.GA6330@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > > doom@nic0.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. Ooooh, Brit script kiddie Tool fans; scary. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0jNF0ACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt1xXwCfQ96CNnhLEdr5nWHMAuOzxNJ5 BQUAoOZarOkabnsfok8o7bNw+ATJRUqU =n/Ex -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 3 10:32:21 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] BEST PIGDOG POST EVER Message-ID: <20020703173221.GQ30984@zork.net> That about sums it up. ----- Forwarded message from SquidDog ----- JR- I don't have your off-list email address handy. Email me direct today regarding ammo. -- squiddog _______________________________________________ pigdog mailing list pigdog@pighaven.org http://mail.pighaven.org/mailman/listinfo/pigdog ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com Wed Jul 3 11:26:29 2002 From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (mwmiller@columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <87lm8vkns9.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20020701210809.GD28056@zork.net> <20020701215127.GD2737@lug.org.uk> <20020701234324.GI28056@zork.net> <87lm8vkns9.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20020703182629.GB5149@columbus.rr.com> On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:53:58AM +0200, Henrik Enberg wrote: > What this list needs is some Argentinians. Then we coould have > steering wheel jokes every day. The moment this message is posted, some idiot domain-squatter will register a domain so as to get the URL http://www.itsdrivingmenuts.ar/ Thus sending some spamming putz's hard-earned money to the Argentina government. ANARCHY IN UKRAINIA!! Cough. Ahem. There, now I feel better. -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Jul 3 11:43:04 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> References: <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <1025698650.1028.68106.camel@amory> <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <20020703184304.GK31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Prickle-Prickle, the 38th of Confusion, 3168, Peter Lowe wrote: > On Jul 03, Ron Guerin wrote: > > That depends on what my number is. > > You're not a number! You're a FREE MAN! I AM NOT A NUMBER! I AM A COLLECTION OF MANY, MANY NUMBERS! - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9I0W2jLHcIq3dHxYRAjByAKCayhCycJ/pa65fg7bnKk5uH9ZSDgCgoLb7 JA6l2dphXWesdug/CVDakag= =/3SI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 3 11:48:31 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GAR foundation Message-ID: <20020703184831.GX30984@zork.net> http://www.garfdn.org/ -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From andy at strugglers.net Wed Jul 3 12:35:10 2002 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020703065259.GJ31470@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020703055126.GL30984@zork.net> <20020703063839.GI2737@lug.org.uk> <20020703065259.GJ31470@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020703193510.GP2737@lug.org.uk> On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 01:52:59AM -0500, Brian D. Hicks wrote: > On Prickle-Prickle, the 38th of Confusion, 3168, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:51:26PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > > Ukrainians galore! > > > > Well done! Most people assume that is Britian. Which is of course > > gb. > > You are so clever. The real clever part is signing your e-mail, but not > uploading the public key to a keyserver, Hmm. You're right that it's not there, but I because I don't have a head full of dead insects I *did* do this: [andy@lug andy]$ gpg --send-key 237C258F gpg: DBG: increasing temp iobuf from 8192 to 16384 gpg: success sending to `wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net' (status=200) and the same for pgpkeys.mit.edu, right after generating the key. So it beats me. Anyway, it's academic now as I've been rapped on the knuckles for PGP/MIME. From mikael at pawlo.com Wed Jul 3 12:40:09 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <20020703184304.GK31470@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> <20020702194521.GR28056@zork.net> <200207021957.MAA20405@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702201210.GE31470@8ball.wox.org> <87elelqkqc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <1025698650.1028.68106.camel@amory> <20020703155041.GA16054@yoyo.org> Message-ID: At 13.43 -0500 02-07-03, Brian D. Hicks wrote: >> > That depends on what my number is. >> You're not a number! You're a FREE MAN! >I AM NOT A NUMBER! I AM A COLLECTION OF MANY, MANY NUMBERS! Just a statistical reminder. M -If Lessig was a character in Winnie the Pooh it would definitely be Eeyore. (Mikael Pawlo 2002) _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From ron at vnetworx.net Wed Jul 3 13:14:45 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Ron Guerin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO discloses plan to invade France Message-ID: <1025727285.1029.84430.camel@amory> http://www.nylxs.com/mp3/4th_show.mp3 From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 3 13:24:35 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] folk etymology Message-ID: <20020703202435.GZ30984@zork.net> http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=gar > Also, as my mother explained it to me, when someone is 'full of gar' > like nick said above, the term comes from 'piss and vinegar'. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From carton at Ivy.NET Wed Jul 3 14:20:36 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: .org In-Reply-To: <20020703013921.GH31470@8ball.wox.org> (Brian D. Hicks's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:39:21 -0500") References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020702233548.GE30984@zork.net> <20020702234531.GG31470@8ball.wox.org> <87wusdzm8m.fsf@enberg.org> <20020703011816.GA4344@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> <20020703013921.GH31470@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "bdh" == Brian D Hicks writes: bdh> And I believe you meant to say "MICROS~1. SCRIPTING APPLICATION NOTE: In the COMMAND.COM batch programming environment, the occurance of an end-of-line marker, or utilizing a string of commands in excess of the CHAR(127) line length limitation implies closing chr$(34) quotation marks. -- One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. From carton at Ivy.NET Wed Jul 3 14:23:47 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020703122533.GA5147@eiv.com> (Shawn McMahon's message of "Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:25:33 -0400") References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703122533.GA5147@eiv.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "sm" == Shawn McMahon writes: sm> I haven't been here long enough for this opinion to matter CRACKMONKEY IS NOT A GERONTOCRACY, foolish slashdot troll. -- There will be plenty of room, I'm convinced, for any wireless service that doesn't frustrate its customers---something many American wireless providers do routinely---and i-mode emphatically does not frustrate its current customers. -- Dr. Tachikawa, NTT DoCoMo From katherim at sfu.ca Wed Jul 3 14:42:43 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020703122533.GA5147@eiv.com> from "Shawn McMahon" at Jul 03, 2002 08:25:33 AM Message-ID: <200207032142.OAA17488@fraser.sfu.ca> begin Sean McMahon scribblings: > begin Katherine Merle Mason quotation: > > > > I think anyone who wants to be in the FAQ should be excluded on > > principle. It'll be a good paradox for you to solve, or at least, > > it will be amusing to watch you try to solve it. > > I realize I haven't been here long enough for this opinion to matter > much, but I think the above should go in the FAQ. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck[1] off ;). Cheers, Kaye` [1] Extra us added to illustrate the author's Canuuuuuckleheadedness, and to take up more bandwidth in the hopes that more people will be annoyed and leave this list. From katherim at sfu.ca Wed Jul 3 14:43:49 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> from "Shawn McMahon" at Jul 03, 2002 08:56:02 AM Message-ID: <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> beign Sean McMahon scribblings: > begin Mister Bad quotation: > > > > Hey, what's everybody think about BACON? > > Sir Francis, Kevin, or Beaumont? Canadian, of couuuuuurse. Cheers, Kaye From katherim at sfu.ca Wed Jul 3 14:52:30 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <20020703184304.GK31470@8ball.wox.org> from "Brian D. Hicks" at Jul 03, 2002 01:43:04 PM Message-ID: <200207032152.OAA19752@fraser.sfu.ca> begin Brian Hicks scribblings: > I AM NOT A NUMBER! I AM A COLLECTION OF MANY, MANY NUMBERS! Oh, come on. You're at least a collection of many, many qbits. Since a qbit can have at least a countably infinite (it may be uncountably) number of quantum superstates, and you since certainly consist of at least "many, many qbits", I think you need just a few more "many"s to do any sort of justice to just how much foamy quantum bandwidth you waste. Cheers, Kaye From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Wed Jul 3 16:20:34 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Prickle-Prickle, the 38th of Confusion, 3168, Katherine Merle Mason wrote: > beign Sean McMahon scribblings: > > > begin Mister Bad quotation: > > > > > > Hey, what's everybody think about BACON? > > > > Sir Francis, Kevin, or Beaumont? > > Canadian, of couuuuuurse. Speaking of the Canadistas, how come we didn't get a Happy Canada Day e-mail? - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9I4bBjLHcIq3dHxYRAqZNAJ9TpIm702kam2oht937wjwQ3bNnFgCfb16j 5/OlRb6SUaGrSXYC1bZJ4Zw= =PqwV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joe at barrera.org Wed Jul 3 16:30:47 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [pigdog] GAR foundation References: <20020703184831.GX30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <3D238927.7010304@barrera.org> Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.garfdn.org/ Well crap. So I've been mispronouncing "GAR" all this time. - Joe From jv at zork.net Wed Jul 3 16:55:47 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: Miss you, fuqr (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Dear Oracle) In-Reply-To: <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> begin Larry Ellison quotation: > >>>>> "SvE" == Stephen van Egmond writes: > SvE> Could you tell me why the Debian project has seen fit to > SvE> eliminate the task packages, in favour of the more braindead > SvE> task: control file entry? > No. > ~Larry > P.S. Your extraneous u's are sucking up bandwidth. The Internet was so > much better before all your fucking Canadians. This won't look good at your naturalisation hearings. -jv p.s... !holy fuck... I almost replied to From sharkey at zoic.org Wed Jul 3 17:17:27 2002 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'Sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: ; from carton@Ivy.NET on Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:23:47PM -0400 References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703122533.GA5147@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020704101727.D28806@dwerryhouse.com.au> On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:23:47PM -0400, Miles Nordin wrote: > >>>>> "sm" == Shawn McMahon writes: > > sm> I haven't been here long enough for this opinion to matter > > CRACKMONKEY IS NOT A GERONTOCRACY, foolish slashdot troll. Of course not, Honorable Grandfather. ------sharks From joe at barrera.org Wed Jul 3 17:19:00 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: Miss you, fuqr (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Dear Oracle) References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> Message-ID: <3D239474.4070509@barrera.org> Juggler Vain wrote: > begin Larry Ellison quotation: > > >>>>>>>"SvE" == Stephen van Egmond writes: >>>>>> >> SvE> Could you tell me why the Debian project has seen fit to >> SvE> eliminate the task packages, in favour of the more braindead >> SvE> task: control file entry? > > >>No. >>~Larry >>P.S. Your extraneous u's are sucking up bandwidth. The Internet was so >>much better before all your fucking Canadians. > > > This won't look good at your naturalisation hearings. -jv > > p.s... !holy fuck... I almost replied to So what... I mean as if he wasn't used to crap in his mailbox anyways. As if he actually read his own email before having someone filter it. Or BillG, for that matter. Or... - Joe From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 3 17:40:17 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: Miss you, fuqr (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Dear Oracle) In-Reply-To: <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020704004017.GA30984@zork.net> begin Juggler Vain quotation: > p.s... !holy fuck... I almost replied to Don't worry. That address bounces. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From henrik at enberg.org Wed Jul 3 17:59:03 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Miss you, fuqr (Was: Dear Oracle) In-Reply-To: <20020704004017.GA30984@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's message of "Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:40:17 -0700") References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> <20020704004017.GA30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <87hejggvfs.fsf@enberg.org> Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: > begin Juggler Vain quotation: >> p.s... !holy fuck... I almost replied to > > Don't worry. That address bounces. But you'll end up in CIA's new superduper databases. Prepare to be audited. -- Yo mama's so stupid, she sold the house to pay the mortgage. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 3 18:11:06 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Miss you, fuqr (Was: Dear Oracle) In-Reply-To: <87hejggvfs.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> <20020704004017.GA30984@zork.net> <87hejggvfs.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20020704011106.GB30984@zork.net> begin Henrik Enberg quotation: > But you'll end up in CIA's new superduper databases. Prepare to be > audited. Oh don't worry, I'm already rated at Suppressive IV! -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From jdub at perkypants.org Wed Jul 3 18:31:18 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Miss you, fuqr (Was: Dear Oracle) In-Reply-To: <20020704011106.GB30984@zork.net> References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> <20020704004017.GA30984@zork.net> <87hejggvfs.fsf@enberg.org> <20020704011106.GB30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020704013118.GO17793@perkypants.org> > begin Henrik Enberg quotation: > > But you'll end up in CIA's new superduper databases. Prepare to be > > audited. > > Oh don't worry, I'm already rated at Suppressive IV! You misread. It said "Suppository IV". - Jeff -- "I think hot Chinese girls who kick ass are the wave of the future, as far as films go." - Cody Russell From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 3 20:15:47 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Miss you, fuqr (Was: Dear Oracle) In-Reply-To: <20020704013118.GO17793@perkypants.org> References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> <20020704004017.GA30984@zork.net> <87hejggvfs.fsf@enberg.org> <20020704011106.GB30984@zork.net> <20020704013118.GO17793@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020704031547.GD30984@zork.net> begin Jeff Waugh quotation: > > > begin Henrik Enberg quotation: > > > But you'll end up in CIA's new superduper databases. Prepare to > > > be audited. > > > > Oh don't worry, I'm already rated at Suppressive IV! > > You misread. It said "Suppository IV". Lemme see... nope, not as funny as my original response. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Jul 4 00:21:00 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Miss you, fuqr (Was: Dear Oracle) In-Reply-To: <20020704011106.GB30984@zork.net> References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> <20020704004017.GA30984@zork.net> <87hejggvfs.fsf@enberg.org> <20020704011106.GB30984@zork.net> Message-ID: <1025767261.18833.129.camel@zingiber> On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 18:11, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Oh don't worry, I'm already rated at Suppressive IV! How much Google Juice do you need to give xenu.net to get on this page? http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Thu Jul 4 00:47:54 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Miss you, fuqr (Was: Dear Oracle) In-Reply-To: <1025767261.18833.129.camel@zingiber> References: <20020703050540.GB9207@tinyplanet.ca> <87adp9qkjc.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020703235547.GF10148@zork.net> <20020704004017.GA30984@zork.net> <87hejggvfs.fsf@enberg.org> <20020704011106.GB30984@zork.net> <1025767261.18833.129.camel@zingiber> Message-ID: <20020704074754.GM31470@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Setting Orange, the 39th of Confusion, 3168, Don Marti wrote: > On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 18:11, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San > Francisco wrote: > > > Oh don't worry, I'm already rated at Suppressive IV! > > How much Google Juice do you need to give xenu.net to get on this page? > > http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ Already there: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Although they don't mention xenu.net explicitly, that's the guy who runs it. - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9I/2ojLHcIq3dHxYRAifUAJ4q5LPBQ2DFCcBhjrV8N24f/UF+0ACg+3EC kV9KdmHMDjaBdW6ZX8311jg= =WZun -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Jul 4 01:26:01 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> ("Brian D. Hicks"'s message of "Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:20:34 -0500") References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "BDH" == Brian D Hicks writes: BDH> Speaking of the Canadistas, how come we didn't get a Happy BDH> Canada Day e-mail? Mailman Day kind of overshadowed it. -Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work like you're gonna get fired, dance like Hunter S. Thompson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Thu Jul 4 01:32:45 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> (Mister Bad's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 01:26:01 -0700") References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Mister Bad quotation: >>>>>> "BDH" == Brian D Hicks writes: > > BDH> Speaking of the Canadistas, how come we didn't get a Happy > BDH> Canada Day e-mail? > > Mailman Day kind of overshadowed it. I look forward to Mailman Day more and more each month. Perhaps it's because of the Pirate Joke. -- / [|] Sean Neakums [|] \ From jdub at perkypants.org Thu Jul 4 01:40:54 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20020704084054.GP17793@perkypants.org> > > Mailman Day kind of overshadowed it. > > I look forward to Mailman Day more and more each month. Perhaps it's > because of the Pirate Joke. Hint: It's not. - Jeff -- The implementation of any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from pr0n. From evan at prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us Thu Jul 4 01:42:18 2002 From: evan at prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us (Evan Prodromou) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:33 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 09:32:45 +0100") References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <874rffx4t1.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "SN" == Sean Neakums writes: SN> I look forward to Mailman Day more and more each month. SN> Perhaps it's because of the Pirate Joke. What pirate joke is that? -ESP -- Evan Prodromou evan@prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us From sneakums at zork.net Thu Jul 4 02:21:33 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: <874rffx4t1.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> (Evan Prodromou's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 01:42:18 -0700") References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> <874rffx4t1.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <6u4rff6e76.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Evan Prodromou quotation: >>>>>> "SN" == Sean Neakums writes: > > SN> I look forward to Mailman Day more and more each month. > SN> Perhaps it's because of the Pirate Joke. > > What pirate joke is that? http://crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2002q3/031979.html He doesn't send those by hand, you know. -- / [|] Sean Neakums [|] \ From smcmahon at eiv.com Thu Jul 4 05:05:50 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020703193510.GP2737@lug.org.uk> References: <20020703055126.GL30984@zork.net> <20020703063839.GI2737@lug.org.uk> <20020703065259.GJ31470@8ball.wox.org> <20020703193510.GP2737@lug.org.uk> Message-ID: <20020704120550.GB9669@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Andy Smith quotation: > > Anyway, it's academic now as I've been rapped on the knuckles for > PGP/MIME. Clearly, your will is insufficient, or you'd find a way. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0kOh4ACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt00RwCfYAE7QWMxc4aomZxoZ0x30x8B MvcAnAx+OLWU4FFd4Kkfai4DTiTjyggq =GXaI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From carton at Ivy.NET Thu Jul 4 07:11:19 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020704101727.D28806@dwerryhouse.com.au> (Nick 'Sharkey' Moore's message of "Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:17:27 +1000") References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703122533.GA5147@eiv.com> <20020704101727.D28806@dwerryhouse.com.au> Message-ID: >>>>> "nsm" == Nick 'Sharkey' Moore writes: carton> CRACKMONKEY IS NOT A GERONTOCRACY nsm> Of course not, Honorable Grandfather. grandfather my ass. I just got here. what you need to do is put MONKEY or CRACK somewhere in your screen name or your web site (your ``domain'') so that everyone will know you're serious about becoming a devoted crackmonkey member. Otherwise, see, we think you're just playin' us. There's a lot of that. -- TCPA: Toppled Can of Peas Assurance -- Plasma Studii From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Jul 4 09:16:17 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:40:54 +1000." <20020704084054.GP17793@perkypants.org> References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> <20020704084054.GP17793@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <200207041616.g64GGISQ026858@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:40:54 +1000, Jeff Waugh said: > > > I look forward to Mailman Day more and more each month. Perhaps it's > > because of the Pirate Joke. > Hint: It's not. Maybe for him, it is - the crutch that gets him through the month. Kinda like going to church every week. It's not what it's about, but it lets you mostly deal with life. From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Jul 4 09:16:55 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 01:42:18 PDT." <874rffx4t1.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> <874rffx4t1.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <200207041616.g64GGtSQ026877@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 01:42:18 PDT, Evan Prodromou said: > What pirate joke is that? The other one. From joe at barrera.org Thu Jul 4 09:30:31 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> <874rffx4t1.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <200207041616.g64GGtSQ026877@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <3D247827.1080106@barrera.org> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 01:42:18 PDT, Evan Prodromou said: > >>What pirate joke is that? > > The other one. Ah yes. The one with the parrot. From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Jul 4 09:42:03 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [beansack@fastmail.fm: Back-scratcher + reset switch = help!] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 09:30:31 PDT." <3D247827.1080106@barrera.org> References: <20020703125602.GC5147@eiv.com> <200207032143.OAA17732@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703232034.GL31470@8ball.wox.org> <87hejfx5k6.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <6u8z4r6ggi.fsf@zork.zork.net> <874rffx4t1.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <200207041616.g64GGtSQ026877@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <3D247827.1080106@barrera.org> Message-ID: <200207041642.g64Gg3SQ029320@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 09:30:31 PDT, "Joseph S. Barrera III" said: > Ah yes. The one with the parrot. The *other* parrot. Geez. From sharkey at zoic.org Thu Jul 4 16:26:33 2002 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'Sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: ; from carton@Ivy.NET on Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 10:11:19AM -0400 References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703122533.GA5147@eiv.com> <20020704101727.D28806@dwerryhouse.com.au> Message-ID: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 10:11:19AM -0400, Miles Nordin wrote: > > what you need to do is put MONKEY or CRACK somewhere in your screen > name or your web site (your ``domain'') so that everyone will know > you're serious about becoming a devoted crackmonkey member. It's even better if you put +crackmonkey in there to show that you ``approve'' of crackmonkey. For example, if you email address is joeey696968@hotmail.com, you could use joeey696968+crackmonkey@hotmail.com instead. Not only does it look cool and show you're in with the ``in crowd'', every time you send an email from a +crackmonkey address, Bill Gates donates 10 cents to narcosimian research! It's good for you _and_ it'll help Save Our Planet. \sharks From pawal at blipp.com Thu Jul 4 16:37:12 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> References: <200207022303.QAA03577@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020703122533.GA5147@eiv.com> <20020704101727.D28806@dwerryhouse.com.au> <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> Message-ID: <20020704233711.GN12299@vic20.blipp.com> On Fri, 05 Jul 2002, Nick 'Sharkey' Moore wrote: > It's even better if you put +crackmonkey in there to > show that you ``approve'' of crackmonkey. For example, > if you email address is joeey696968@hotmail.com, you > could use joeey696968+crackmonkey@hotmail.com instead. > > Not only does it look cool and show you're in with the > ``in crowd'', every time you send an email from a +crackmonkey > address, Bill Gates donates 10 cents to narcosimian research! > It's good for you _and_ it'll help Save Our Planet. "apt-get install xscreensaver-crackmonkey" for those who wants to donate their spare cpu cycles to the preservation of the rhesus exeprimental drug research center. -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From katherim at sfu.ca Thu Jul 4 17:42:27 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> from "Nick 'Sharkey' Moore" at Jul 05, 2002 09:26:33 AM Message-ID: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> > It's even better if you put +crackmonkey in there to > show that you ``approve'' of crackmonkey. For example, > if you email address is joeey696968@hotmail.com, you > could use joeey696968+crackmonkey@hotmail.com instead. Hey, that's cool! I need a crackmonkey code to add to my geek code block now. Where to put it... It offends me a little to put it in the computers section -- Crackmonkey is just soooo much more. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to fit in anywhere else. I think maybe it'lll have to go after Oracle and before Kibo? CM would work, then again, it's kinda sucky, and those are my mother's initials, so I'm not to keen on the idea. Well, that, and the short code for a MUSH I used to admin (CrystalMUSH :). XX, like the monkey's eyes might be okay. Then again, I always liked "#", because it has the coolest formal name -- octothorpe! Hmmm...then we have to come up with meanings for the various +/-s. Here's the Linux one as an example: ----------------begin quote------------------ Linux Linux is a hacker-written operating system virtually identical to Unix. It was written for and continues to run on your standard 386/486/Pentium PC, but has also been ported to other systems. Because it is still a young OS, and because it is continually evolving from hacker changes and support, it is important that the geek list his Linux ability. L+++++ I am Linus, grovel before me. L++++ I am a Linux wizard. I munch C code for breakfast and have enough room left over for a kernel debugging. I have so many patches installed that I lost track about ten versions ago. Linux newbies consider me a net.god. L+++ I use Linux exclusively on my system. I monitor comp.os.linux.* and even answer questions sometimes. L++ I use Linux ALMOST exclusively on my system. I've given up trying to achieve Linux.God status, but welcome the OS as a replacement for DOS. I only boot to DOS to play games. L+ I've managed to get Linux installed and even used it a few times. It seems like it is just another OS. L I know what Linux is, but that's about all L- I have no desire to use Linux and frankly don't give a rats patootie about it. There are other, better, operating systems out there. Like Mac, DOS, or Amiga-OS. Or, better yet even, would be another free Unix OS like FreeBSD. L-- Unix sucks. Because Linux = Unix. Linux Sucks. I worship Bill Gates. L--- I am Bill Gates. ------------------end quote------------------------- I'll think about this more later...my science fiction writers' group meets at 7:00 tonight, and I have my priorities straight ;). After all, we are makin' an unopposed bid for Westercon 2005! :) Cheers, Kaye -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GAT\B\CA\IT\J\TW\(CS\M) dy/dx s+: a- C++/? UILSBX++>++++ P+ L++>++++ !E W+>-- N+(--) o+ K w(---) !O M+ V PS++ PE Y+ PGP-- t? 5? X- R+++ tv->-- b* DI* D---- G-- e++ h* r* x? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From henrik at enberg.org Thu Jul 4 18:05:56 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: .org In-Reply-To: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> (Katherine Merle Mason's message of "Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:42:27 -0700 (PDT)") References: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <87d6u30yrv.fsf@enberg.org> Katherine Merle Mason writes: > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GAT\B\CA\IT\J\TW\(CS\M) dy/dx s+: a- C++/? UILSBX++>++++ P+ L++>++++ !E > W+>-- N+(--) o+ K w(---) !O M+ V PS++ PE Y+ PGP-- t? 5? X- R+++ tv->-- b* > DI* D---- G-- e++ h* r* x? > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ STOP SENDING MIME-ENCODED MESSAGES TO THIS LIST. -- Yo mama's so stupid, she failed a survey. From sharkey at zoic.org Thu Jul 4 21:52:51 2002 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'Sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca>; from katherim@sfu.ca on Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 05:42:27PM -0700 References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20020705145251.A9736@dwerryhouse.com.au> On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 05:42:27PM -0700, Katherine Merle Mason wrote: > > Hey, that's cool! I need a crackmonkey code to add to my geek code > block now. Geek code ... that's soooo leet. I wanted to have a geek code but I can't find it in my Microsoft Preferences control. -----sharks@aol From carlos at laviola.org Thu Jul 4 22:10:53 2002 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020703182629.GB5149@columbus.rr.com> References: <20020701210809.GD28056@zork.net> <20020701215127.GD2737@lug.org.uk> <20020701234324.GI28056@zork.net> <87lm8vkns9.fsf@enberg.org> <20020703182629.GB5149@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20020705051053.GA2430@laviola.org> On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:26:29PM -0400, mwmiller@columbus.rr.com wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:53:58AM +0200, Henrik Enberg > wrote: > > What this list needs is some Argentinians. Then we coould have > > steering wheel jokes every day. > > The moment this message is posted, some idiot domain-squatter will > register a domain so as to get the URL > > http://www.itsdrivingmenuts.ar/ You can't register directly under the ar TLD. -- _ | _ | . | CARP has kidnapped Internet Radio. (_(||`|()_\ |(|\/|()|(| Save it! http://saveinternetradio.org From joe at barrera.org Thu Jul 4 22:41:39 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020705145251.A9736@dwerryhouse.com.au> Message-ID: <3D253193.1090803@barrera.org> Nick 'Sharkey' Moore wrote: > Geek code ... that's soooo leet. I wanted to have a geek code but > I can't find it in my Microsoft Preferences control. It's in between the "impersonate unix mailer" and "encode national characters as trigraphs" options. From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Jul 4 23:24:27 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <3D253193.1090803@barrera.org> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020705145251.A9736@dwerryhouse.com.au> <3D253193.1090803@barrera.org> Message-ID: <1025850267.18833.213.camel@zingiber> On Thu, 2002-07-04 at 22:41, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Nick 'Sharkey' Moore wrote: > > Geek code ... that's soooo leet. I wanted to have a geek code but > > I can't find it in my Microsoft Preferences control. > > It's in between the "impersonate unix mailer" and "encode national > characters as trigraphs" options. I've got a better idea -- I can put an ASCII sword in my .signature file! -- # Don Marti __________________________# dmarti@zgp.org /--------------------------#////////// http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ \__________________________#////////// # # From sneakums at zork.net Fri Jul 5 00:31:40 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> (Katherine Merle Mason's message of "Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:42:27 -0700 (PDT)") References: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <6usn2y1vhf.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Katherine Merle Mason quotation: >> It's even better if you put +crackmonkey in there to >> show that you ``approve'' of crackmonkey. For example, >> if you email address is joeey696968@hotmail.com, you >> could use joeey696968+crackmonkey@hotmail.com instead. > > Hey, that's cool! I need a crackmonkey code to add to my geek code > block now. Bah, geek code. Here's my geek code block: -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 4.0 I am a geek. ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- / [|] Sean Neakums [|] \ From mwmiller++ungood at columbus.rr.com Fri Jul 5 00:06:10 2002 From: mwmiller++ungood at columbus.rr.com (mwmiller++ungood@columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020705051053.GA2430@laviola.org> References: <20020701210809.GD28056@zork.net> <20020701215127.GD2737@lug.org.uk> <20020701234324.GI28056@zork.net> <87lm8vkns9.fsf@enberg.org> <20020703182629.GB5149@columbus.rr.com> <20020705051053.GA2430@laviola.org> Message-ID: <20020705070610.GA28756@columbus.rr.com> On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:10:53AM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:26:29PM -0400, mwmiller@columbus.rr.com wrote: > > The moment this message is posted, some idiot domain-squatter will > > register a domain so as to get the URL > > http://www.itsdrivingmenuts.ar/ > You can't register directly under the ar TLD. Oh, all right. I guess I'll go for the old standby, then: http://www.itsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.aritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arrritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arrrritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arrrrritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arrrrrritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arrrrrrritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arrrrrrrritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arrrrrrrrritsdrivingmenuts.com/ http://www.arrrrrrrrrritsdrivingmenuts.com/ -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com From carton at Ivy.NET Fri Jul 5 09:26:17 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> (Katherine Merle Mason's message of "Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:42:27 -0700 (PDT)") References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: >>>>> "kmm" == Katherine Merle Mason writes: kmm> Linux is . . . VIRTUALLY identical to Unix. [...] kmm> I have no desire to use Linux . . . ANOTHER free Unix OS like kmm> FreeBSD. Make up your mind. -- Having a slow TCP stack is sort of like having a small penis. In a perfect world one should eventually get over it, but in reality, not gonna happen. -- Leslie E. Burke From ron at vnetworx.net Fri Jul 5 09:36:07 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Subjugator of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror of Long Island) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <1025886968.1000.179725.camel@amory> On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 12:26, Miles Nordin wrote: > >>>>> "kmm" == Katherine Merle Mason writes: > > kmm> Linux is . . . VIRTUALLY identical to Unix. > [...] > kmm> I have no desire to use Linux . . . ANOTHER free Unix OS like > kmm> FreeBSD. > > Make up your mind. sshhhh! she doesn't know about her split personality. From joe at barrera.org Fri Jul 5 09:49:20 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <1025886968.1000.179725.camel@amory> Message-ID: <3D25CE10.1020008@barrera.org> Subjugator of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror of Long Island wrote: > On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 12:26, Miles Nordin wrote: > >>>>>>>"kmm" == Katherine Merle Mason writes: >>>>>> >> kmm> Linux is . . . VIRTUALLY identical to Unix. >>[...] >> kmm> I have no desire to use Linux . . . ANOTHER free Unix OS like >> kmm> FreeBSD. >> >>Make up your mind. > > sshhhh! she doesn't know about her split personality. Or at least half of her doesn't. From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 5 16:32:34 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020705233234.GB14892@zork.net> Fuck off. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- Keith.Groves@evolution.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sneakums at zork.net Fri Jul 5 16:38:06 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020705233234.GB14892@zork.net> References: <20020705233234.GB14892@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020705233806.GA15773@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > Keith.Groves@evolution.net has been successfully subscribed to > CrackMonkey. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- Oh good, more Brits. Just don't get all Linuxy on our asses, capice? -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From nick at zork.net Sat Jul 6 12:28:14 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ha ha Message-ID: <20020706192814.GB30721@zork.net> http://themes.mozdev.org/skins/ie.html <-- emad -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sneakums at zork.net Sat Jul 6 12:39:10 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ha ha In-Reply-To: <20020706192814.GB30721@zork.net> References: <20020706192814.GB30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020706193910.GA24140@zork.net> commence Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://themes.mozdev.org/skins/ie.html <-- emad NOW IT CAN BEGIN -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From joe at barrera.org Sat Jul 6 13:41:41 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ha ha References: <20020706192814.GB30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <3D275605.1040007@barrera.org> Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://themes.mozdev.org/skins/ie.html <-- emad Truly sickmaking. From mr.bad at pigdog.org Sat Jul 6 14:43:43 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <6usn2y1vhf.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:31:40 +0100") References: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <6usn2y1vhf.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <87ofdksfao.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "SN" == Sean Neakums writes: SN> Bah, geek code. Here's my geek code block: SN> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 4.0 I am a geek. SN> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ GOLLY SEAN NEAKUMS THAT IS A REALLY FUNY JOKE THAT YOU MADE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT WAS FORTUNATE THAT SOMEONE GAVE YOU A CHANCE TO SAY IT AGAIN HA HA. -Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work like you're gonna get fired, dance like Hunter S. Thompson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sneakums at zork.net Sat Jul 6 15:13:25 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <87ofdksfao.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <6usn2y1vhf.fsf@zork.zork.net> <87ofdksfao.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020706221325.GC24140@zork.net> begin Mister Bad quotation: > >>>>> "SN" == Sean Neakums writes: > > SN> Bah, geek code. Here's my geek code block: > > SN> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 4.0 I am a geek. > SN> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > GOLLY SEAN NEAKUMS THAT IS A REALLY FUNY JOKE THAT YOU MADE OVER AND > OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Please, try the aubergine. > IT WAS FORTUNATE THAT SOMEONE GAVE YOU A CHANCE TO SAY IT AGAIN HA HA. I figure there must be a divine power at work. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From dep at linuxandmain.com Sat Jul 6 17:28:57 2002 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] canadia launches toxic gas attack against u.s. Message-ID: <200207062024.14537.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://wcbs880.com/nynews/AP/APTV/State/NY/n/NY--SmokySkies-on/news_html even worse -- on the july 4th weekend in new england, the cradle of freedom, not "sunny," or "partly cloudy," or "cloudy" -- no, "smoke"! http://www.weather.com/weather/local/06470?x=0&whatprefs=&y=0 -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From nick at zork.net Sun Jul 7 12:06:39 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] once more with feeling Message-ID: <20020707190639.GN30721@zork.net> Once in a while, someone will remind me of Kenny G. And then, to lift my spirits, I will visit this page: http://www.saxon.com/stephen/pat-story.htm I've sent it here before, but I think it bears reposting. Definitely an inspired rant, and one that manages to seem level headed while unleashing the GAR. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Jul 8 05:52:03 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: olvwm is the best window manager. All others are, at best, inferior imitators. From sneakums at zork.net Mon Jul 8 05:56:47 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> commence Miles Nordin quotation: > olvwm is the best window manager. All others are, at best, inferior > imitators. Aren't you taking your Sun fetish just a *little* too far? -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From jim at musenki.com Mon Jul 8 06:23:46 2002 From: jim at musenki.com (Jim Thompson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020708132346.85E8BF4007@dinky.musenki.com> >> olvwm is the best window manager. All others are, at best, inferior >> imitators. > > Aren't you taking your Sun fetish just a *little* too far? This is the clearest example of "baby ducks" syndrome that I've ever seen. Jim From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Mon Jul 8 06:36:55 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:56:47 BST." <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> Message-ID: <200207081337.g68DatnD018893@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Mon, 08 Jul 2002 13:56:47 BST, Sean Neakums said: > commence Miles Nordin quotation: > > olvwm is the best window manager. All others are, at best, inferior > > imitators. > > Aren't you taking your Sun fetish just a *little* too far? Actually, he's a uwm user, but (a) ashamed to admit it and (b) yanking your chain, all at the same time. From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Jul 8 07:49:22 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <200207081337.g68DatnD018893@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <200207081337.g68DatnD018893@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020708144922.GD1989@perkypants.org> > > Aren't you taking your Sun fetish just a *little* too far? > > Actually, he's a uwm user, but (a) ashamed to admit it and (b) yanking your > chain, all at the same time. Sneakums? GET USED TO IT. - Jeff -- "Laughter is a force for democracy." - John Cleese From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Jul 8 08:15:23 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:56:47 +0100") References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "sn" == Sean Neakums writes: sn> Aren't you taking your Sun fetish just a *little* too far? Sun does not include olvwm with their machinery. Sun provides olwm, which is an inferior imitator of olvwm. -- TCPA: Tattling and Crying about Practically Anything -- Plasma Studii From sneakums at zork.net Mon Jul 8 08:20:36 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> commence Miles Nordin quotation: > >>>>> "sn" == Sean Neakums writes: > > sn> Aren't you taking your Sun fetish just a *little* too far? > > Sun does not include olvwm with their machinery. Factually correct, but irrelevant. > Sun provides olwm, which is an inferior imitator of olvwm. Factually incorrect, unless you live backwards in time. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Jul 8 08:25:26 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020708152526.GH1989@perkypants.org> > Factually correct, but irrelevant. > > > Sun provides olwm, which is an inferior imitator of olvwm. > > Factually incorrect, unless you live backwards in time. Your ad-hominem attacks quota is faltering, Neakypants. - Jeff -- "Are you XFire's crazy girlfriend? And if so, shine on you crazy diamond!" - Paul Cameron From sneakums at zork.net Mon Jul 8 08:29:01 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708152526.GH1989@perkypants.org> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> <20020708152526.GH1989@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020708152901.GG12283@zork.net> commence Jeff Waugh quotation: > > > > Factually correct, but irrelevant. > > > > > Sun provides olwm, which is an inferior imitator of olvwm. > > > > Factually incorrect, unless you live backwards in time. > > Your ad-hominem attacks quota is faltering, Neakypants. My quota is the same as it ever was. I just don't bother attempting to meet it anymore. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From jdub at perkypants.org Mon Jul 8 08:40:33 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708152901.GG12283@zork.net> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> <20020708152526.GH1989@perkypants.org> <20020708152901.GG12283@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020708154033.GI1989@perkypants.org> > > Your ad-hominem attacks quota is faltering, Neakypants. > > My quota is the same as it ever was. I just don't bother attempting to > meet it anymore. Layabout! - Jeff -- "If your life was a movie, would you pay to see it? Would you pay to see an advertisement for it?" - James Morris From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Jul 8 08:46:18 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708152526.GH1989@perkypants.org>; from jdub@perkypants.org on Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 01:25:26AM +1000 References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> <20020708152526.GH1989@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020708094618.A13961@sakima.ivy.net> On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 01:25:26AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Your ad-hominem attacks quota is faltering, Neakypants. You Ess Ay! You Ess Ay! From sneakums at zork.net Mon Jul 8 08:44:37 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708154033.GI1989@perkypants.org> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> <20020708152526.GH1989@perkypants.org> <20020708152901.GG12283@zork.net> <20020708154033.GI1989@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020708154437.GH12283@zork.net> commence Jeff Waugh quotation: > > > > > Your ad-hominem attacks quota is faltering, Neakypants. > > > > My quota is the same as it ever was. I just don't bother attempting to > > meet it anymore. > > Layabout! Fillum at 11. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Jul 8 10:06:56 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020708170655.GA1461@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Prickle-Prickle, the 43rd of Confusion, 3168, Sean Neakums wrote: > commence Miles Nordin quotation: > > >>>>> "sn" == Sean Neakums writes: > Factually correct, but irrelevant. > > > Sun provides olwm, which is an inferior imitator of olvwm. > > Factually incorrect, unless you live backwards in time. What if you read Crackmonkey in reverse chronological order? - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9KcaujLHcIq3dHxYRApQ8AKDq9KWdsTRgO01f74EvyEL7LuLCWwCdGW3K XIgDUX9X9s/r1ORAWv3MOtU= =uw/g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From smcmahon at eiv.com Mon Jul 8 10:43:53 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708170655.GA1461@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> <20020708170655.GA1461@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020708174353.GA23802@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Brian D. Hicks quotation: > > What if you read Crackmonkey in reverse chronological order? Then all of your modems will turn into internal ones. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0pz1kACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt0KhwCgukDpXeH3IUqtdzQhkDN+q7jH ttwAoKrAi0A1bmxSyVgQ/tjUNWp1dr47 =PAit -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 8 13:41:23 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708174353.GA23802@eiv.com> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> <20020708170655.GA1461@8ball.wox.org> <20020708174353.GA23802@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020708204123.GC31719@trance.org> * smcmahon@eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) [Mon 08 Jul 2002, 19:48 CEST]: > begin Brian D. Hicks quotation: >> What if you read Crackmonkey in reverse chronological order? > Then all of your modems will turn into internal ones. And the terrorists will be victorious soon. -- Niels. -- "You must be a hacker. You have so many t-shirts!" -- A cow-orker, to me. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 166 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://frotz.zork.net/pipermail/crackmonkey/attachments/20020708/eb4f5523/attachment.pgp From joe at barrera.org Mon Jul 8 16:19:23 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> <20020708170655.GA1461@8ball.wox.org> <20020708174353.GA23802@eiv.com> Message-ID: <3D2A1DFB.1030600@barrera.org> Shawn McMahon wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > begin Brian D. Hicks quotation: > >>What if you read Crackmonkey in reverse chronological order? > > Then all of your modems will turn into internal ones. And if you don't have modems, your testicles will retract, thereby turning into internal ones. From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 8 19:54:31 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy vegetarian week Message-ID: <20020709025431.GA30721@zork.net> http://www.vegsoc.org/nvw/index.html Is vegsoc anything like INGSOC? -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca Mon Jul 8 22:05:52 2002 From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:34 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy vegetarian week In-Reply-To: <20020709025431.GA30721@zork.net> References: <20020709025431.GA30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020709050552.GA1597@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> Beats me - but this sounds like doublespeak: --- [ http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020715/story2.html ] In a survey of 11,000 individuals, 37% of those who responded "Yes, I am a vegetarian" also reported that in the previous 24 hours they had eaten red meat. --- * mind boggles * On a related note, I'd like to point out that meat is tasty and that vegetarians can go to Canada. (and you've got to say that as if you were saying 'go to hell'.) On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 07:54:31PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://www.vegsoc.org/nvw/index.html > > Is vegsoc anything like INGSOC? > -- erik bourget | "The power of guessing is infinite." ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca | -- Denis Therien From mvw at wave.co.nz Tue Jul 9 02:29:26 2002 From: mvw at wave.co.nz (Mark van Walraven) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <20020708174353.GA23802@eiv.com> References: <20020708125647.GB12283@zork.net> <20020708152036.GF12283@zork.net> <20020708170655.GA1461@8ball.wox.org> <20020708174353.GA23802@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020709092925.GC17494@mvw.wave.co.nz> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 01:43:53PM -0400, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Then all of your modems will turn into internal ones. I had an internal modem once, but it hurt when I coughed. Mark. From sneakums at zork.net Tue Jul 9 05:24:51 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms Message-ID: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> http://www.savekaryn.com/ You'll be repaid in KARMA, redeeemable at any unpopulated forest. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 9 05:34:36 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> Message-ID: At 13.24 +0100 02-07-09, Sean Neakums wrote: >http://www.savekaryn.com/ >You'll be repaid in KARMA, redeeemable at any unpopulated forest. You would probably look great in these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=941868554 _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From smcmahon at eiv.com Tue Jul 9 05:34:43 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Pirate humor; start 'em young Message-ID: <20020709123443.GA27668@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It's barely possible that someone will find this as funny as I did: My family and I were looking at child furniture. We saw a bed shaped like a pirate ship, complete with sail. My four-year-old son saw it and immediately said "arr, it's driving me nuts." - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEUEARECAAYFAj0q2GMACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt0tYwCg/3c7LyGDytmB4uRgTcyyr/CV cG4AmOUGatVXgQvaAyupTm7ZgMxUA8w= =/muh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sneakums at zork.net Tue Jul 9 05:35:59 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: References: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020709123559.GB28242@zork.net> commence Mikael Pawlo quotation: > At 13.24 +0100 02-07-09, Sean Neakums wrote: > >http://www.savekaryn.com/ > >You'll be repaid in KARMA, redeeemable at any unpopulated forest. > > You would probably look great in these: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=941868554 Why are you so keen to get rid of them? -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From smcmahon at eiv.com Tue Jul 9 06:37:02 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> References: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020709133702.GA28022@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Sean Neakums quotation: > http://www.savekaryn.com/ > > You'll be repaid in KARMA, redeeemable at any unpopulated forest. Yeah, bad karma, for having contributed to her disease. Tough love is what she needs. She's still coloring her hair. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0q5v4ACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt3XVgCgqz69lc/4EyLbonqOTTgKdNF+ 6DYAoNyoNQyZhWXLroEyYQAvwDy/e7YC =bfmB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmorris at intercode.com.au Tue Jul 9 06:51:44 2002 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Planet Knuth Message-ID: So this is where he comes from. http://www.asu.cas.cz/~asteroid/planetky/21656/eng.htm -- James Morris From smcmahon at eiv.com Tue Jul 9 07:00:39 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Planet Knuth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020709140039.GA28152@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin James Morris quotation: > So this is where he comes from. > > http://www.asu.cas.cz/~asteroid/planetky/21656/eng.htm It's a small world after all, it's (KABOOM). - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0q7IYACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt0ZVgCeKW3ICylofdAAJxiG5VvSxca6 i3wAoLa/6e6/bc98aF2De19k+sj+bCci =fUe/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Jul 9 10:45:22 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Planet Knuth In-Reply-To: <20020709140039.GA28152@eiv.com> References: <20020709140039.GA28152@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020709174522.GB1461@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Setting Orange, the 44th of Confusion, 3168, Shawn McMahon wrote: > begin James Morris quotation: > > So this is where he comes from. > > > > http://www.asu.cas.cz/~asteroid/planetky/21656/eng.htm > > It's a small world after all, it's (KABOOM). Are you still here? - -- Brian Hicks This message would self-destruct in 10 seconds, except I'm not that clever. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9KyExjLHcIq3dHxYRAj2xAJ9kxLvVB2Wig73FjF5Wit3KeHe93QCfXqix NEd1A2xysn/qHhrVlKi6FsU= =NslD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 9 15:42:36 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Just when... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just when you thought it was safe to leave the building: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2115000/2115887.stm Actual quote: "The military platform, dubbed Sealand, is the base of internet hosting company HavenCo which is bucking the downturn of the dot.com economy." Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 9 15:51:46 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Just when... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 00.42 +0200 02-07-10, Mikael Pawlo wrote: >Just when you thought it was safe to leave the building: >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2115000/2115887.stm >Actual quote: >"The military platform, dubbed Sealand, is the base of internet hosting >company HavenCo which is bucking the downturn of the dot.com economy." For newcomers: http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.2001.11.19-2001.11.25/msg00112.html and http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2001q4/024579.html M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Jul 9 15:57:37 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Just when... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020709225737.GH30721@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > At 00.42 +0200 02-07-10, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2115000/2115887.stm > > For newcomers: > http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.2001.11.19-2001.11.25/msg00112.html > > and > > http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/2001q4/024579.html Also: http://zork.net/~neale/iquit.php Next time clean up your references. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From nick at zork.net Tue Jul 9 17:07:42 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] I'm feeling lucky! Message-ID: <20020710000742.GJ30721@zork.net> http://www.google.com/search?q=jack+valenti Top link! (@CrackMonkey) jack valenti? jack valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION end 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) From sneakums at zork.net Wed Jul 10 01:06:59 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> References: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020710080659.GA15028@zork.net> commence Sean Neakums quotation: > http://www.savekaryn.com/ > > You'll be repaid in KARMA, redeeemable at any unpopulated forest. Here's another one. http://www.gnome.org/friends/ -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From smcmahon at eiv.com Wed Jul 10 05:46:10 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: <20020710080659.GA15028@zork.net> References: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> <20020710080659.GA15028@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020710124610.GD32101@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Shawn Neakums quotation: > > Here's another one. > > http://www.gnome.org/friends/ Wrong again. Your repayment for that isn't in karma, it's in the general improvement of a suite of programs you may use, and in what that means for other Open Source or Free Software programs you may use. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0sLJEACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt3g9ACfYQv6OFvQmtqUybdUWMe4HU/e Rr8AoPnYtxYj26E8TgMjLZ8TO0W5+90K =fVv6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sneakums at zork.net Wed Jul 10 06:07:41 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: <20020710124610.GD32101@eiv.com> References: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> <20020710080659.GA15028@zork.net> <20020710124610.GD32101@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020710130741.GB15028@zork.net> commence Shawn McMahon quotation: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > begin Shawn Neakums quotation: > > > > Here's another one. > > > > http://www.gnome.org/friends/ > > Wrong again. Your repayment for that isn't in karma, it's in the > general improvement of a suite of programs you may use, and in what that > means for other Open Source or Free Software programs you may use. My comment "here's another one" was in reference to the subject header of my original mail, not my "karma" comment. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From niels=cm at bakker.net Wed Jul 10 06:21:54 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: <20020710130741.GB15028@zork.net> References: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> <20020710080659.GA15028@zork.net> <20020710124610.GD32101@eiv.com> <20020710130741.GB15028@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020710132154.GR31719@trance.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * sneakums@zork.net (Sean Neakums) [Wed 10 Jul 2002, 15:10 CEST]: > My comment "here's another one" was in reference to the subject header > of my original mail, not my "karma" comment. So not only did you quote yourself, you misquoted yourself. Furrfu. MonkeyMaster was right when he probably told you to `GTFOML.' -- Niels. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: . iD8DBQE9LDTyr7WIsA3LmMURAjUaAJ9leU04Xgdp/xd/7yPcD8xCdpBWHACfeGyD B9tsse1a8fxEndYzD4Jko1Y= =UUxp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sneakums at zork.net Wed Jul 10 06:23:53 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: <20020710132154.GR31719@trance.org> References: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> <20020710080659.GA15028@zork.net> <20020710124610.GD32101@eiv.com> <20020710130741.GB15028@zork.net> <20020710132154.GR31719@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020710132352.GC15028@zork.net> commence Niels Bakker quotation: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > * sneakums@zork.net (Sean Neakums) [Wed 10 Jul 2002, 15:10 CEST]: > > My comment "here's another one" was in reference to the subject header > > of my original mail, not my "karma" comment. > > So not only did you quote yourself, you misquoted yourself. I did not. The quoted material is as it was in my original message. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From carton at Ivy.NET Wed Jul 10 08:09:42 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] happy vegetarian veek In-Reply-To: <20020709050552.GA1597@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> (Erik Bourget's message of "Tue, 9 Jul 2002 01:05:52 -0400") References: <20020709025431.GA30721@zork.net> <20020709050552.GA1597@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: >>>>> "eb" == Erik Bourget writes: eb> vegetarians can go to Canada. You misspelled Canadia. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 10 09:04:22 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Man, begging web sites are sprouting like mushrooms In-Reply-To: <20020710080659.GA15028@zork.net> References: <20020709122451.GA28242@zork.net> <20020710080659.GA15028@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020710160422.GP30721@zork.net> begin Sean Neakums quotation: > commence Sean Neakums quotation: > > http://www.savekaryn.com/ > > > > You'll be repaid in KARMA, redeeemable at any unpopulated forest. > > Here's another one. > > http://www.gnome.org/friends/ Don't forget: http://somegeek.org/ -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 10 09:05:24 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020710160524.GQ30721@zork.net> OH CRAP! It's THE SYSOP! Everybody look busy and pump up your upload/download ratios!!!!!^*&@*@*^@ ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- thesysop@linuxmail.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 10 09:05:44 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020710160544.GR30721@zork.net> ha ha. Now the spammers just SUBSCRIBE to the mailing lists! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- mail.misc.crackmonkey@spam.fi.basen.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 10 09:44:35 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [laszlo@monkeydyne.com: [sf-caco] Bondage-A-Coho] Message-ID: <20020710164434.GU30721@zork.net> Ha ha Breakers to Bay! In Salmon suits! ----- Forwarded message from laszlo_p_toth ----- Latest stupid idea, from the part of my brain that brought you the Gothbunnies. Bondage-A-GoGo happens every Wednesday night. Many of us have salmon suits from the Breakers to Bay run. http://www.state.ak.us/adfg/notebook/fish/coho.htm -- or maybe I'm just posting this because I was amused by the pun To unsubscribe, send a message to: sf-caco-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com For events announcements only, send a message to: sf-caco-events-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Group info: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sf-caco/ http://sf-caco.zpub.com/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From jv at zork.net Wed Jul 10 11:41:18 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: Trail of breadcrumbs (Was: Fickle Lady Luck (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] I'm feeling lucky!) In-Reply-To: <20020710001939.GK30721@zork.net> References: <20020710000742.GJ30721@zork.net> <20020710001851.GF11323@zork.net> <20020710001939.GK30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020710184117.GA1265@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > begin Juggler Vain quotation: > > begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=jack+valenti > > When I sent query... > > > Top link! > > ... was to cryptome... > > > (@CrackMonkey) jack valenti? > > > jack valenti is to the American film viewer and the American > > > public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. > > ... Dumont is to metaphor as Home Simpson is to cheshire cats. -jv > Follow that cryptome link and search for "Boston". Following your lead (and finding context for what I'd taken as automatic writing (but wasn't sure, so I included an exit)), I offer a substitute jibe: Dumont's assertion is to humour as I am to web-editing. And now, proposing my self a gracefully cheshire cat... but no, rather as an Homer Simpson backing from the room, smiling... yes, when it comes to graceful exits, I'm a regular Homer Simpson. -jv... homo sapiens p.s... ummm... > Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the > Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. > http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm ... yeah, it's in there, plain as day... well, encoded into his testimony, imio From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 10 12:16:41 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020710191641.GY30721@zork.net> ____ / ___| ___ __ ___ ____ _ _ _ | | _ / _ \ / _` \ \ /\ / / _` | | | | | |_| | (_) | | (_| |\ V V / (_| | |_| |_ \____|\___/ \__,_| \_/\_/ \__,_|\__, (_) |___/ ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- laurence@isp.northwestern.edu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From jv at zork.net Wed Jul 10 13:03:42 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: Yet an other marshal's come for Judge Roy Bean (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification) In-Reply-To: <20020710160524.GQ30721@zork.net> References: <20020710160524.GQ30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020710200342.GB1265@zork.net> Stop the presses: "We" (Kissinger's heirs) opt-out of warcrime-thingie... ... claiming reasoned fear of capricious prosecution... like Nicaragua's fraudulent claim that "we" (who would never negotiate with terrorists, especially not trading narcotics & other munitions with them) mined harbors... !and we *stiffed* the fuqrs... ... and ?how might our ultraconstitutional fumigation of marxist infection have turned had we'd been obliged to defend our selves from their accusations. No way, Ho Say ?Can You See... ?dig... ?you calling our rulers crazy... ?you wanna' *try* Our Beloved Statesman Kissinger... ?Bush, !hahaha. You want me, Marshal... come on in... ?what. Oh: begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > OH CRAP! It's THE SYSOP! Everybody look busy and pump up your > upload/download ratios!!!!!^*&@*@*^@ > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > thesysop@linuxmail.org has been successfully subscribed to > CrackMonkey. > ----- End forwarded message ----- ... yes, well I'm, ahhh... listening to npr... ?hi... hi to you, too... > Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the > Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. > http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm ... Jack Valenti is to hyperbolic malice as Heraldo Rivera is to investigative entertainment... -jv From jv at zork.net Wed Jul 10 13:13:40 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] With a name like "Smucker's" (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Message-ID: <20020710201340.GC1265@zork.net> [mailman-owner@zork$ Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <20020710160544.GR30721@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > ha ha. Now the spammers just SUBSCRIBE to the mailing lists!... > mail.misc.crackmonkey@spam.fi.basen.net has been successfully > subscribed to CrackMonkey... !Dude, if m.m.cm were a hose, we'd be hosed already; spamassassin would be ankle-deep in red banner... I conjecture basen's research-expedition. Every one appear innocuous. -jv From jv at zork.net Wed Jul 10 13:17:05 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020710191641.GY30721@zork.net> References: <20020710191641.GY30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020710201705.GD1265@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > ____ > / ___| ___ __ ___ ____ _ _ _ > | | _ / _ \ / _` \ \ /\ / / _` | | | | > | |_| | (_) | | (_| |\ V V / (_| | |_| |_ > \____|\___/ \__,_| \_/\_/ \__,_|\__, (_) > |___/ [... !Kerning. Cool. -jv] From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 10 14:06:34 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] nice one Message-ID: <20020710210634.GF30721@zork.net> http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html > The NARAS people were a bit more pushy. They told me downloads were > "destroying sales", "ruining the music industry", and "costing you > money". > > Costing me money? I don't pretend to be an expert on intellectual > property law, but I do know one thing. If a music industry executive > claims I should agree with their agenda because it will make me more > money, I put my hand on my wallet?and check it after they leave, > just to make sure nothing's missing. > > Am I suspicious of all this hysteria? You bet. Do I think the issue > has been badly handled? Absolutely. Am I concerned about losing > friends, opportunities, my 10th Grammy nomination by publishing this > article? Yeah. I am. But sometimes things are just wrong, and when > they're that wrong, they have to be addressed. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From 0272456089 at djuice.co.nz Wed Jul 10 14:15:02 2002 From: 0272456089 at djuice.co.nz (Ian W H) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds Message-ID: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> http://www.utahbirds.org/BirdStory.htm From jv at zork.net Wed Jul 10 14:40:09 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> Message-ID: <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> begin Ian W H quotation: > http://www.utahbirds.org/BirdStory.htm ?What's up with the Mormon crack... birds can't be Thieving Mormons... they weren't even Utah Birds, but Maryland... probably orioles... ... so, ?What's up, down there, with the Mormons that put a hair up your trigger. -jv... I'm Charlie's aunt from Kolob... !where the nuts come from From jv at zork.net Wed Jul 10 15:03:16 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: Role-models' responsibility (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] nice one) In-Reply-To: <20020710210634.GF30721@zork.net> References: <20020710210634.GF30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020710220316.GH1265@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html > > The NARAS people were a bit more pushy... > > I do know one thing. If a music industry executive > > claims I should agree with their agenda because it will make me more > > money, I put my hand on my wallet?and check it after they leave... (I'd observed on pigdog): -=- From: Juggler Vain - begin Randy Mills quotation: > Not a bad article, and it's coming from someone connected w/ the music > industry. > >http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html - "Am I concerned about losing friends, opportunities, my 10th Grammy nomination by publishing this article? Yeah. I am. But sometimes things are just wrong, and when they're that wrong, they have to be addressed." - Humanist. Betraying Lord Mammon. Defiling the Temple. Apostate. -jv -=- She subsequently laid into the Noble & Precious Creative Facilitators, calling them by the hateful epithet: middle-men... carelessly mis-characterising their Wise Apportioning of resource as gouging Talent. Talent. Ingratitude, rather... and dyed in the wool. She'd been biting the dick, ahhh... hand that fed her... from stroke, ahhh... day one. Faithful servants of Lord Mammon will boycott her concerts: >http://www.marinjcc.org/centerstage/< ... and steer clear of her merchandise: >http://store.yahoo.com/janisian/< ... oh, come to think of it, she has at least one redeeming quality: she does yahoo... woo-hoo. -jv From 0272456089 at djuice.co.nz Wed Jul 10 18:38:33 2002 From: 0272456089 at djuice.co.nz (Ian W H) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) Message-ID: <3D2B131E@mail.djuice.co.nz> Well, I don't know for sure, but the website was in Utah. Where the nuts come from. >===== Original Message From Juggler Vain ===== >begin Ian W H quotation: >> http://www.utahbirds.org/BirdStory.htm > >?What's up with the Mormon crack... birds can't be Thieving Mormons... >they weren't even Utah Birds, but Maryland... probably orioles... > >... so, ?What's up, down there, with the Mormons that put a hair up your >trigger. > >-jv... I'm Charlie's aunt from Kolob... !where the nuts come from From squinky at dasbistro.com Wed Jul 10 18:45:36 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020711014536.GA6381@dasbistro.com> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:40:09PM -0700, Juggler Vain wrote: > begin Ian W H quotation: > > http://www.utahbirds.org/BirdStory.htm > > ?What's up with the Mormon crack... birds can't be Thieving Mormons... > they weren't even Utah Birds, but Maryland... probably orioles... > > ... so, ?What's up, down there, with the Mormons that put a hair up your > trigger. Oh, come on. Look at them with their little black ties and bicycles... the name tags that say "Elder so-and-so", their disdain for booze and nookie, and their high grade-point-averages. From snatcher at bearfountain.com Thu Jul 11 01:17:49 2002 From: snatcher at bearfountain.com (Zachary Copley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: <20020711014536.GA6381@dasbistro.com> References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> <20020711014536.GA6381@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "NE" == Not Erik writes: I like how this list has become completely uninterpretable after three beers. ha ha. Jake -- .^....^. "I don't like the feel of ! .\/. ! [the sun] on my skin." (. oo .) --Christopher Walken `{""}' From sneakums at zork.net Thu Jul 11 01:32:13 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> <20020711014536.GA6381@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20020711083213.GG15028@zork.net> commence Zachary Copley quotation: > >>>>> "NE" == Not Erik writes: > > I like how this list has become completely uninterpretable after three > beers. ha ha. STEADY THE BUFFS! -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Thu Jul 11 01:34:05 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> <20020711014536.GA6381@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20020711083405.GD1461@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Boomtime, the 46th of Confusion, 3168, Zachary Copley wrote: > >>>>> "NE" == Not Erik writes: > > I like how this list has become completely uninterpretable after three > beers. ha ha. I hope you're being scientific and first verifying that it is interpretable before you begin drinking. - -- Brian Hicks "[The fortune cookie] says my lucky number is Patrick McGoohan." -- Customer #5, Triangle and Robert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9LUL7jLHcIq3dHxYRAqFtAKDfySquVspiJR/WMpDyfZ2qCWBZdwCg+hDZ ZvALpydFuDhDIdrj/UqmyH4= =fDVB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Jul 11 01:35:22 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:17:49 PDT." References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> <20020711014536.GA6381@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <200207110835.g6B8ZNrb006884@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:17:49 PDT, Zachary Copley said: > I like how this list has become completely uninterpretable after three > beers. ha ha. Can't hold your liquor? From snatcher at bearfountain.com Thu Jul 11 01:55:37 2002 From: snatcher at bearfountain.com (Zachary Copley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: <20020711083405.GD1461@8ball.wox.org> References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> <20020711014536.GA6381@dasbistro.com> <20020711083405.GD1461@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "BDH" == Brian D Hicks writes: BDH> I hope you're being scientific and first verifying that it is BDH> interpretable before you begin drinking. Shit! -- .^....^. "I don't like the feel of ! .\/. ! [the sun] on my skin." (. oo .) --Christopher Walken `{""}' From snatcher at bearfountain.com Thu Jul 11 01:57:13 2002 From: snatcher at bearfountain.com (Zachary Copley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: <200207110835.g6B8ZNrb006884@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> <20020711014536.GA6381@dasbistro.com> <200207110835.g6B8ZNrb006884@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "VK" == Valdis Kletnieks writes: >> I like how this list has become completely uninterpretable >> after three beers. ha ha. VK> Can't hold your liquor? I can hold it over you and poor it on your head. Jake -- .^....^. "I don't like the feel of ! .\/. ! [the sun] on my skin." (. oo .) --Christopher Walken `{""}' From smcmahon at eiv.com Thu Jul 11 06:15:26 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Support your pirate joke Message-ID: <20020711131526.GA4796@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Fark has a vote going on for "favorite joke". Somebody submitted the pirate joke. You can vote here: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?232497 - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0thO4ACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt35xgCfQ07czguvnhKKjWFqcAnHFowP vDUAoLZPBBdDka4w4u0bKoVDLYXgzSUU =4KQH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From smcmahon at eiv.com Thu Jul 11 08:31:52 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Mod your mouse Message-ID: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Or don't, what the hell do I care? http://metku.net/cryo/ - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0tpOgACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt0GYQCg35n3Dqgh6CRLS4FnI3gudCon RU0An24BQoNQuspN5hHMAFcrk6Dgdf0k =EnmC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From junasts at subdimension.com Thu Jul 11 08:56:29 2002 From: junasts at subdimension.com (Last Judgement Samuel) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Mod your mouse In-Reply-To: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> (Shawn McMahon's message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:31:52 -0400") References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> Message-ID: <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "SM" == Shawn McMahon writes: SM> Or don't, what the hell do I care? Your attitude is piss-poor, McMahon. Also, you lack a handle, which makes you limp and powerless. In general, I am against anyone named "Shawn", in any variation. -- Last Judgement Samuel P.S. I saw Donkeyshow Sean in a restaurant on the side of a cliff in Italy! He was surrounded with big-boobed Italian starlets eating raw octopus with a straw. Seriously! I fell out of my chair. P.P.S. Speaking of tits, I noticed that NetBSD still hasn't changed its name. -- +++ Last Judgement Samuel + junasts@subdimension.com + 0x8D3E92DE +++ From carton at Ivy.NET Thu Jul 11 09:16:37 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us>; from junasts@subdimension.com on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 08:56:29AM -0700 References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 08:56:29AM -0700, Last Judgement Samuel wrote: > you lack a handle, which makes you limp and powerless. This is only half right. He has a screen name instead of a handle: > AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv > Speaking of tits, I noticed that NetBSD still hasn't changed > its name. The Linuxification is proceeding with ease during my exile. There is a big movement to change from binary packages in traditional BSD .tar.gz form to some opaque, proprietary TitsBSD-only endian-dependent binary format with built-in compression and CORBA, so that the binary packages will be ``streamable''---you can get the packing list by reading the first few kB, then close the Interweb download connection. Do this about 500 times, and you have enough information to paint a progress bar in our new QT/Embedded wscons-framebuffer GUI installer. (it looks kind of like Central Point's PC Tools.) Once this project is complete, we will be able to COMPETE with other prime-time open source Unix installers like Linux. I will then make a motion to change the name to The TitsBSD Foundation. From henrik at enberg.org Thu Jul 11 09:29:49 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> (Miles Nordin's message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:16:37 -0600") References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> Message-ID: <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> Miles Nordin writes: > The Linuxification is proceeding with ease during my exile. There is > a big movement to change from binary packages in traditional BSD > .tar.gz form to some opaque, proprietary TitsBSD-only endian-dependent > binary format with built-in compression and CORBA, so that the binary > packages will be ``streamable''---you can get the packing list by > reading the first few kB, then close the Interweb download connection. But will standard CORBA be good enough? They will never get this shit rolling unless they write their own specialized version. -- Yo mama's so fat, when she backs up she beeps. From joe at barrera.org Thu Jul 11 10:42:22 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> Henrik Enberg wrote: > But will standard CORBA be good enough? They will never get this shit > rolling unless they write their own specialized version. "Standard CORBA"? What's that? Is it like "Standard SQL"? - Joe From jv at zork.net Thu Jul 11 11:01:44 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: "Go to Father" (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] happy vegetarian week) In-Reply-To: <20020709050552.GA1597@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> References: <20020709025431.GA30721@zork.net> <20020709050552.GA1597@sushi.sus.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20020711180144.GB13872@zork.net> begin Erik Bourget quotation: > Beats me - but this sounds like doublespeak: > --- [ http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020715/story2.html ] > In a survey of 11,000 individuals, 37% of those who responded "Yes, I > am a vegetarian" also reported that in the previous 24 hours they had > eaten red meat. > --- > * mind boggles * Just 'cause I'm a humanitarian, doesn't mean I eat *only* people. -jv p.s... "Go to Father," she said when I asked her to wed... ... but she knew that I knew that her father were dead... ... and she knew that I knew of the life he had lead, so... ... she knew that I knew what she meant when she said: "Go to Father" > On a related note, I'd like to point out that meat is tasty and that > vegetarians can go to Canada. (and you've got to say that as if you > were saying 'go to hell'.) p.p.s... and yes... canadia From jv at zork.net Thu Jul 11 11:05:19 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: It's _all_ for the _artists_... (Was: Role-models' responsibility (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] nice one) In-Reply-To: <1026340168.979.178.camel@zingiber> References: <20020710210634.GF30721@zork.net> <20020710220316.GH1265@zork.net> <1026340168.979.178.camel@zingiber> Message-ID: <20020711180519.GC13872@zork.net> begin Don Marti quotation: > On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 15:03, Juggler Vain wrote: > > Faithful servants of Lord Mammon will boycott her concerts: > > >http://www.marinjcc.org/centerstage/< > What about the _artists_? Won't somebody please think of _artists_ > here? It's _all_ for the _artists_; they're such _children_, after all. -jv From claviola at ax.net.br Thu Jul 11 11:38:54 2002 From: claviola at ax.net.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:35 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> Message-ID: <20020711183854.GB25338@alternex.com.br> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 10:42:22AM -0700, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Henrik Enberg wrote: > >But will standard CORBA be good enough? They will never get this shit > >rolling unless they write their own specialized version. > > "Standard CORBA"? What's that? Is it like "Standard SQL"? No. Are you implying that there is no standards between SQL implementations? What the hell is this then? http://epoch.cs.berkeley.edu:8000/sequoia/dba/montage/FAQ/SQL.html -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From joe at barrera.org Thu Jul 11 12:07:40 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> <20020711183854.GB25338@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <3D2DD77C.9040908@barrera.org> Carlos Laviola wrote: > No. Are you implying that there is no standards between SQL > implementations? What the hell is this then? > http://epoch.cs.berkeley.edu:8000/sequoia/dba/montage/FAQ/SQL.html Next you'll be pointing me to POSIX, right? Outer join syntax, e.g., differs between the various databases, as do many of the most basic functions (substring, cast to string), and DDL is just a nightmare. - Joe From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Jul 11 13:36:08 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:07:40 PDT." <3D2DD77C.9040908@barrera.org> References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> <20020711183854.GB25338@alternex.com.br> <3D2DD77C.9040908@barrera.org> Message-ID: <200207112036.g6BKa85j008853@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:07:40 PDT, "Joseph S. Barrera III" said: > Outer join syntax, e.g., differs between the various databases, as do > many of the most basic functions (substring, cast to string), and DDL is > just a nightmare. It's called "product differentiation". Kind of like the auto industry, except that we *usually* don't like it when an auto company sells stuff that crashes or blows up just to be different. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Jul 11 13:43:04 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: <200207112036.g6BKa85j008853@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> <20020711183854.GB25338@alternex.com.br> <3D2DD77C.9040908@barrera.org> <200207112036.g6BKa85j008853@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020711204304.GV30721@zork.net> begin Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu quotation: > Kind of like the auto industry, except that we *usually* don't like > it when an auto company sells stuff that crashes or blows up just to > be different. I'm sorry. Have *you* ever *personally* seen a program actually *explode* before? Have you seen a computer *crash itself into something* before? These are cute metaphors, but they don't quite come close to the taking-your-life-into-GM's-hands that goes on while driving an automobile. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Jul 11 14:01:29 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:43:04 PDT." <20020711204304.GV30721@zork.net> References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> <20020711183854.GB25338@alternex.com.br> <3D2DD77C.9040908@barrera.org> <200207112036.g6BKa85j008853@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020711204304.GV30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <200207112101.g6BL1T5j009227@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:43:04 PDT, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco said: > I'm sorry. Have *you* ever *personally* seen a program > actually *explode* before? Have you seen a computer *crash itself > into something* before? As a matter of fact, yes. I've seen an HP2114 crash itself into a Decwriter, and I had the dubious pleasure of being the sysadmin of the Amazing Exploding Gould PN/9080 (ironically called the "Firebreather" in Gould's promo literature). And I'm willing to swear in a court of law that the gear in the next rack didn't push the 2114, and that the Gould didn't take a grenade lobbed by the evil Sun-3 server 3 tiles over.... From squinky at dasbistro.com Thu Jul 11 14:20:42 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: <20020711204304.GV30721@zork.net> References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> <20020711183854.GB25338@alternex.com.br> <3D2DD77C.9040908@barrera.org> <200207112036.g6BKa85j008853@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020711204304.GV30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020711212042.GA3001@dasbistro.com> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 01:43:04PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > > I'm sorry. Have *you* ever *personally* seen a program > actually *explode* before? Have you seen a computer *crash itself > into something* before? > > These are cute metaphors, but they don't quite come close to > the taking-your-life-into-GM's-hands that goes on while driving an > automobile. But... but... it's the INFORMATION goddamned SUPERHIGHWAY! From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 11 15:49:16 2002 From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (mwmiller@columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [linux-elitists] [fairuse-discuss] DC 7/17: We Are The Stakeholders! (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020711224916.GA3958@columbus.rr.com> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 12:10:06PM -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Seth Johnson > Reply-To: fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com > To: [many many addresses] > Subject: [fairuse-discuss] DC 7/17: We Are The Stakeholders! ... > http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1EC62531 > SUMMARY: The United States Department of Commerce Technology > Administration (TA) announces a public workshop on digital > entertainment and its availability to consumers. ... Now, honestly, is http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2002_register&docid=02-16740-filed *really* all that long that it needs to be obfuscated^Wshortened? It's only 92 characters after all. -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com From sneakums at zork.net Thu Jul 11 15:49:23 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [linux-elitists] [fairuse-discuss] DC 7/17: We Are The Stakeholders! (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20020711224916.GA3958@columbus.rr.com> References: <20020711224916.GA3958@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20020711224923.GD31754@zork.net> commence mwmiller@columbus.rr.com quotation: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 12:10:06PM -0400, Jay Sulzberger > wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Seth Johnson > > Reply-To: fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com > > To: [many many addresses] > > Subject: [fairuse-discuss] DC 7/17: We Are The Stakeholders! > ... > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1EC62531 > > SUMMARY: The United States Department of Commerce Technology > > Administration (TA) announces a public workshop on digital > > entertainment and its availability to consumers. ... > > Now, honestly, is > http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2002_register&docid=02-16740-filed > *really* all that long that it needs to be obfuscated^Wshortened? It's > only 92 characters after all. Enabler technology for obsolete software. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From jv at zork.net Thu Jul 11 16:51:58 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: My God can make your god laugh (Was: ?You some kinda' *Lamanite* (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] Thieving Mormon birds) In-Reply-To: <20020711020424.GA11857@www.beadpainter.org> References: <3D2B09D3@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020710214009.GG1265@zork.net> <20020711020424.GA11857@www.beadpainter.org> Message-ID: <20020711235158.GJ13872@zork.net> Dropping Jargon as Tithing: !see the gates of heaven open... no offense, Holo, you da' gates... begin Holo quotation: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:40:09PM -0700, Juggler Vain wrote: > > -jv... I'm Charlie's aunt from Kolob... !where the nuts come from > http://www.eagle-net.org/livingscripture/scripture/lemuel.html ... fruity nugget of psychodrama, and more fruit into livingscripture's tree... > Now I have to go to http://www.exmormon.org to get the bad memories > out of my head. ... I'll visit this likely buzzkill... l8r. -jv p.s... Holo, dude, ?you know how relatively *few* Elders & Sisters even *heard* of Kolob From carton at Ivy.NET Fri Jul 12 06:50:26 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: <20020711204304.GV30721@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:43:04 -0700") References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> <20020711183854.GB25338@alternex.com.br> <3D2DD77C.9040908@barrera.org> <200207112036.g6BKa85j008853@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020711204304.GV30721@zork.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "mmaprosf" == Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: mmaprosf> seen a program actually *explode* before? Programs explode all the time, but ordinary people aren't allowed to see them because of NATIONAL SECURITY. -- commerce could only take place under the umbrella of a temporary framework erected by powerful individuals and their gangs. Contracts were personal and the gift economy took its most sadistic form ("He made me an offer I couldn't refuse"). -- Keith Hart From sneakums at zork.net Fri Jul 12 07:16:05 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: without a handle, I have no identity! In-Reply-To: References: <20020711153152.GA5236@eiv.com> <873cuq6yxe.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> <20020711101637.B7226@sakima.ivy.net> <877kk25ite.fsf@enberg.org> <3D2DC37E.7070601@barrera.org> <20020711183854.GB25338@alternex.com.br> <3D2DD77C.9040908@barrera.org> <200207112036.g6BKa85j008853@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020711204304.GV30721@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020712141605.GA5193@zork.net> commence Miles Nordin quotation: > >>>>> "mmaprosf" == Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: > > mmaprosf> seen a program actually *explode* before? > > Programs explode all the time, but ordinary people aren't allowed to > see them because of NATIONAL SECURITY. I hear the anthrax scare was all down to a bogus CVS build of XEmacs. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From smcmahon at eiv.com Fri Jul 12 07:39:59 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The joke vote Message-ID: <20020712143959.GA10197@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Guys, the pirate joke is at number 2, and is only 4 votes behind "looks like you blew a seal". Come on, support your joke! http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=232497 - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0u6j4ACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt1PegCgmG9a9nmCaExUnX2wOS+m1AeL aNgAn3aAT/18cBi6N+Ms8yCy8jEWuxFF =KcrM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 12 09:47:25 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020712164725.GF32551@zork.net> No Swedes allowed. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- crackmonkey@borg.pp.se has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From jeremym at loonix.org Fri Jul 12 09:56:16 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020712164725.GF32551@zork.net> References: <20020712164725.GF32551@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020712165615.GI18872@pug.chroot.net> On Fri Jul 12, 2002 at 09:47:25AM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > No Swedes allowed. > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > crackmonkey@borg.pp.se has been removed from CrackMonkey. .se is Senegal, you dork. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From henrik at enberg.org Fri Jul 12 10:00:57 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020712164725.GF32551@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:47:25 -0700") References: <20020712164725.GF32551@zork.net> Message-ID: <87ele8x4mu.fsf@enberg.org> Nick Moffitt writes: > No Swedes allowed. Ha ha, I'm still here. -- Yo mama's so stupid, she took the Pepsi challenge and chose Jif. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Jul 12 10:11:50 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <87ele8x4mu.fsf@enberg.org> References: <20020712164725.GF32551@zork.net> <87ele8x4mu.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20020712171150.GH32551@zork.net> begin Henrik Enberg quotation: > Nick Moffitt writes: > > > No Swedes allowed. > > Ha ha, I'm still here. ...or so the Swedes would have us believe. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From pawal at blipp.com Fri Jul 12 14:32:18 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] not in color or orange or anything Message-ID: <20020712213218.GD3167@vic20.blipp.com> From the really important denoser-project at sourceforge: http://4711.net/?223&dom=sourceforge.net -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From 0272456089 at djuice.co.nz Fri Jul 12 19:28:51 2002 From: 0272456089 at djuice.co.nz (Ian W H) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Other planets I have known Message-ID: <3D2BA04A@mail.djuice.co.nz> begin Well, it seems fashionable for religions to have their own divine planets. Scientologists know all about this, while the Mormons now ring less songs about Kolob than they used to. As for me, I'll stick to Thulcandra. Can you talk to that subject without help from google and snopes? From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Fri Jul 12 19:40:21 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Other planets I have known In-Reply-To: <3D2BA04A@mail.djuice.co.nz> References: <3D2BA04A@mail.djuice.co.nz> Message-ID: <20020713024021.GF1461@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Pungenday, the 47th of Confusion, 3168, Ian W H wrote: IT HAS A NAME NOW! No longer merely a string of numeric digits preceeding an @! - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9L5MTjLHcIq3dHxYRAidjAJ9m0bbDTOP3sWI5V5ajPLLqLNMhZwCgooGh w6shMpX3VeWu2Qvql2xn/fg= =ekB+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Jul 12 19:48:09 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Other planets I have known In-Reply-To: <20020713024021.GF1461@8ball.wox.org> References: <3D2BA04A@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020713024021.GF1461@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020713024809.GV32551@zork.net> begin Brian D. Hicks quotation: > On Pungenday, the 47th of Confusion, 3168, Ian W H wrote: > > IT HAS A NAME NOW! No longer merely a string of numeric digits > preceeding an @! Hell, even Rick Moen was just a string of numeric digits in the early days. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From sneakums at zork.net Fri Jul 12 19:51:19 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Other planets I have known In-Reply-To: <20020713024021.GF1461@8ball.wox.org> References: <3D2BA04A@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020713024021.GF1461@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020713025119.GD5193@zork.net> commence Brian D. Hicks quotation: > 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" > which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway You fiend! Must you throw my underachieving ways into stark relief at every opportunity?! Okay, okay, fine, FINE! I *will* listen to the Lambda Expressway within the next forty-eight hours! -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Jul 12 20:05:53 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Other planets I have known In-Reply-To: <20020713025119.GD5193@zork.net> References: <3D2BA04A@mail.djuice.co.nz> <20020713024021.GF1461@8ball.wox.org> <20020713025119.GD5193@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020713030553.GW32551@zork.net> begin Sean Neakums quotation: > Okay, okay, fine, FINE! I *will* listen to the Lambda Expressway > within the next forty-eight hours! http://zork.net/~nick/ogg/gunpoint_studios/lambda_expressway/ It's so grrrreat! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 12 23:26:21 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020713062621.GZ32551@zork.net> IS THAT WET SACK FILLED WITH SEVERED COX? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- Radix42@cox.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Sat Jul 13 13:27:01 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020713202701.GD29456@zork.net> ha ha web mail ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- colin_wills@bigfoot.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From carton at Ivy.NET Sat Jul 13 13:35:52 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you, Sir! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? Message-ID: I am at 16th & Walnut in Philadelphia. If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "NoEscort" or nwid "Wireless": Verizon Interweb DSL. free, courtesy an unknown benefactor. NAT. router has musical addresses every hour. works near the west window. If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "SMC": hqoffice.com Internet access. tcpdump and pick an address! works two blocks north of here. If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "tmobile": Starbucks Interweb from ``tmobilebroadband.com.'' -----8<----- [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] 1. Choose a Service Plan Monthly Subscription Plans [ ] Unlimited Local $29.99/month. Monthly subscription plan includes unlimited local monthly minutes. Usage outside selected local area will be charged at $0.15/minute. [______________________] [IMG] [ ] Unlimited National $49.99/month. Monthly subscription plan includes unlimited monthly minutes at all service locations nationwide. Prepay Plans [ ] Prepay 120 $20. 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[ Sign Up ] [IMG] -----8<----- fucking Krauts. They think this is fucking HUNGARY and they can just come in here and pound me in the ass with their 25-cent-per-MINUTE fees on a PACKET-switched connection, their ROAMING AGREEMENTS, their REQUIRED(*) CUSTOMER-NAME-AND-ADDRESS, and their BLANK POLICY that they can just fill in any way they like after I sign-by-clicking. They've even cleverly worded it as ``select,'' so I can't get around the write-in contract by using 'links' where there is no ``clicking.'' PAPIEREN, BITTE. MACH SCHNELL, JUDEN! Deutschland, Deutschland ?ber alles ?ber alles in der weld. Thanks for the offer, Deutsche Telekom, but I think the extra ten square feet of coverage isn't worth dealing with Hitler's children. PHILADELPHIA WELCOMES THE EMPIRE OF JAPAN. -- There will be plenty of room, I'm convinced, for any wireless service that doesn't frustrate its customers---something many American wireless providers do routinely---and i-mode emphatically does not frustrate its current customers. -- Dr. Tachikawa, NTT DoCoMo From Radix42 at Cox.Net Sat Jul 13 16:38:00 2002 From: Radix42 at Cox.Net (David Mercer) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Headers from Nicks mailer In-Reply-To: <20020713202701.GD29456@zork.net> References: <20020713202701.GD29456@zork.net> Message-ID: Evil Eudora 5 Adware on Mac OS 9, actually...and why the fuck does your mutt put a webtv-stationary header in your mail?? >ha ha web mail > >----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > >colin_wills@bigfoot.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. > > >----- End forwarded message ----- > >-- >Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public >as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. > http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm > >_______________________________________________ >CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks >http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey -- David Mercer Tucson, AZ Radix42@Cox.Net From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Jul 13 16:45:12 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Headers from Nicks mailer In-Reply-To: References: <20020713202701.GD29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020713234511.GH29456@zork.net> begin David Mercer quotation: > Evil Eudora 5 Adware on Mac OS 9, actually...and why the fuck does > your mutt put a webtv-stationary header in your mail?? Look at the colors, smartyboy. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From sneakums at zork.net Sat Jul 13 16:45:30 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Headers from Nicks mailer In-Reply-To: References: <20020713202701.GD29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020713234530.GA9202@zork.net> commence David Mercer quotation: > Evil Eudora 5 Adware on Mac OS 9, actually...and why the fuck does > your mutt put a webtv-stationary header in your mail?? [zork(~)] grep WebTV /etc/Muttrc my_hdr X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard\; BGColor=black\; TextColor=black Duh. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From henrik at enberg.org Sat Jul 13 16:48:19 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Headers from Nicks mailer In-Reply-To: (David Mercer's message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:38:00 -0700") References: <20020713202701.GD29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <87adovb35o.fsf@enberg.org> David Mercer writes: > why the fuck does your mutt put a webtv-stationary header in your > mail?? Duh, because he reads crackmonkey from a webtv thingy of course. He's trying to outdo the cell-phone guy. -- Yo mama's so ugly, her dentist treats her by mail-order. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sat Jul 13 20:17:40 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you, Sir! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020714031740.GA25292@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Prickle-Prickle, the 48thof Confusion, 3168, Miles Nordin wrote: > I am at 16th & Walnut in Philadelphia. > > If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "NoEscort" or nwid "Wireless": > > Verizon Interweb DSL. free, courtesy an unknown benefactor. NAT. > router has musical addresses every hour. works near the west window. > > If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "SMC": > > hqoffice.com Internet access. tcpdump and pick an address! works > two blocks north of here. > > If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "tmobile": > > Starbucks Interweb from ``tmobilebroadband.com.'' Did you remember to chalk it out? It's the only courteous thing to do. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9MO1SjLHcIq3dHxYRAl7cAKCzCDqiL+Ao30kH/LpKFRIdclqk9ACg6yLi cSjrzNs+xphbwf4H8taQjzk= =qS9l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sat Jul 13 20:40:46 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Brake Fluid Message-ID: <20020714034046.GB25292@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To whoever is responsible for my brake line going out: Shame on you, doing such a pitiful job of trying to kill me. First off, if I lived in the mountains taking out my brakes might actually be effective, but I live in the midwest for crimeny's sake! Then, there's your pitiful knowledge of my vehicle. For one, it's a manual transmission, so I've got engine compression on my side. Then, remember that cars made after the '70's have braking systems designed so that severing one break line will not result in a complete loss of braking power. To belive that severing merely one brake line would do the job means you misjudged my car's age by AT LEAST 5 years. And then there's the issue of my emergency/parking brake. Even complete loss of normal braking capacity, my parking break has been fully fuctional since at least 2 years ago when it was finally replaced. Of course, you do get credit for severing the brake line as opposed to the easier to fix hose, and for making it look like the whole situation was merely caused by rust. Delaying the time of the rupture from the time of the sabotage was also good work, but still not good enough. In fact, zero injuries or fatalities resulted from your shoddy workmanship. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9MPK7jLHcIq3dHxYRArr5AKCZ1s9NKvRNAaY5FcsXfeJRzBNL5ACdGug/ c7d1rD3AvSumv0qojnNNEvg= =wgug -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From carton at Ivy.NET Sat Jul 13 22:17:17 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you, Sir! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? In-Reply-To: <20020714031740.GA25292@8ball.wox.org>; from hick0142@tc.umn.edu on Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:17:40PM -0500 References: <20020714031740.GA25292@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020713231717.A32531@sakima.ivy.net> On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:17:40PM -0500, Brian D. Hicks wrote: > Did you remember to chalk it out? You bet. I chalked them kraut fuquors good. | +----- | | | | 11 +----+----+ O | | | | -----+ | tmobile From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Jul 13 22:22:25 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you, Sir! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? In-Reply-To: <20020713231717.A32531@sakima.ivy.net> References: <20020714031740.GA25292@8ball.wox.org> <20020713231717.A32531@sakima.ivy.net> Message-ID: <20020714052225.GJ29456@zork.net> begin Trolldozer for Hire quotation: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:17:40PM -0500, Brian D. Hicks wrote: > > Did you remember to chalk it out? > > You bet. I chalked them kraut fuquors good. > > | +----- > | | > | | 11 > +----+----+ > O | | > | | > -----+ | > > tmobile And, in closing, Hitler. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From carlos at laviola.org Sun Jul 14 02:56:09 2002 From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you, Sir! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? In-Reply-To: <20020714052225.GJ29456@zork.net> References: <20020714031740.GA25292@8ball.wox.org> <20020713231717.A32531@sakima.ivy.net> <20020714052225.GJ29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020714095609.GA12115@laviola.org> On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:22:25PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Trolldozer for Hire quotation: > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:17:40PM -0500, Brian D. Hicks wrote: > > > Did you remember to chalk it out? > > > > You bet. I chalked them kraut fuquors good. > > > > | +----- > > | | > > | | 11 > > +----+----+ > > O | | > > | | > > -----+ | > > > > tmobile > > And, in closing, Hitler. There's no doubt now that Nordin knows how to close a thread. -- _ | _ | . | CARP has kidnapped Internet Radio. (_(||`|()_\ |(|\/|()|(| Save it! http://saveinternetradio.org From sharkey at zoic.org Sun Jul 14 03:56:58 2002 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'Sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you, Sir! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? In-Reply-To: ; from carton@Ivy.NET on Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 04:35:52PM -0400 References: Message-ID: <20020714205658.A7969@dwerryhouse.com.au> On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 04:35:52PM -0400, Miles Nordin wrote: > I am at 16th & Walnut in Philadelphia. > > If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "NoEscort" or nwid "Wireless": > If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "SMC": > If I do ifconfig an0 nwid "tmobile": You need an ad-hoc network, you do :-) > PHILADELPHIA WELCOMES THE EMPIRE OF JAPAN. Hi from Imperial Edo, well, not quite. 21st century Yokohama instead. Any of you lot at IETF 54? -----sharks From carton at Ivy.NET Sun Jul 14 13:07:22 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you, Sir! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? In-Reply-To: <20020714205658.A7969@dwerryhouse.com.au>; from sharkey@zoic.org on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:56:58PM +1000 References: <20020714205658.A7969@dwerryhouse.com.au> Message-ID: <20020714140722.A23144@sakima.ivy.net> On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:56:58PM +1000, Nick 'Sharkey' Moore wrote: > 21st century Yokohama WE ARE A MAJOR TELECOM CARRIER OF GLOBAL SIGNIFICANCE. OUR COMPANY IS CRITICAL TO THE INTERNET COMMUNITY. WE ARE CASTING OFF THE BAGGAGE OF THE PAST AND MOVING ALL OUR OPERATIONS TO STANDARDS-BASED ``OPEN SYSTEMS.'' GOING FORWARD, WE ARE RELYING ON YOUR IETF WORKING GROUP TO PROVIDE US WITH A SECURE WEB-BASED REMOTE ACCESS/ENTERPRISE VPN SOLUTION FOR OUR BLEEDING EDGE NEXT-GENERATION SS7 NETWORK. TO GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND MY INCITEFUL COMMENTS, ALLOW ME TO FASCINATE YOU WITH MANAGEMENT DETAILS. http://www.vpnc.org/ietf-ipsec/mail-archive/msg03977.html From nick at zork.net Sun Jul 14 17:30:57 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020715003057.GS29456@zork.net> Fuck off. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- andreas@thienemann.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From sharkey at zoic.org Sun Jul 14 18:04:14 2002 From: sharkey at zoic.org (Nick 'Sharkey' Moore) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Thank you, Sir! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? In-Reply-To: <20020714140722.A23144@sakima.ivy.net>; from carton@Ivy.NET on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 02:07:22PM -0600 References: <20020714205658.A7969@dwerryhouse.com.au> <20020714140722.A23144@sakima.ivy.net> Message-ID: <20020715110414.A10562@dwerryhouse.com.au> On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 02:07:22PM -0600, Miles Nordin wrote: > > WE ARE A MAJOR TELECOM CARRIER OF GLOBAL SIGNIFICANCE. OUR COMPANY > IS CRITICAL TO THE INTERNET COMMUNITY. Whenever I hear the word "community", I reach for my Wasabi Peas. > TO GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND MY INCITEFUL > COMMENTS, ALLOW ME TO FASCINATE YOU WITH MANAGEMENT DETAILS. IN ORDER TO SAVE ME FROM THIS QUICKSAND, PLEASE LEAP IN HEAD FIRST. ----sharks From nick at zork.net Tue Jul 16 10:54:34 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020716175434.GY29456@zork.net> This is some sort of Rob Levin trick. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- nino@nino.nu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Jul 16 11:00:57 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020716175434.GY29456@zork.net> References: <20020716175434.GY29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020716180057.GA1555@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Boomtime, the 51stof Confusion, 3168, Nick Moffitt wrote: > This is some sort of Rob Levin trick. > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > nino@nino.nu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- Wasn't the Nino one of Christopher Columbus' ships? The Nino the Pinto and the Santo Mario? - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9NF9XjLHcIq3dHxYRAsSZAJwNEauCa+JEIKHDTQ6yGZHmSYBKwwCaAqqh U6lnbKldGTIfB8UZZ4XrRjc= =jWcm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nino at nino.nu Tue Jul 16 11:15:10 2002 From: nino at nino.nu (Niklas Nordebo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020716180057.GA1555@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020716175434.GY29456@zork.net> <20020716180057.GA1555@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020716181510.GE11073@nino.nu> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 01:00:57PM -0500, Brian D. Hicks wrote: > Wasn't the Nino one of Christopher Columbus' ships? The Nino the Pinto > and the Santo Mario? No, it was the other way around, it was the Santo Luigi, lost at sea due to El Ni?o. The Pinto was recalled to Spain due to design defects, and thus only the Santo Mario reached the castle with the princess in it. -- niklas nordebo -><- nino@nino.nu -><- +447925661290 don't let THEM immanentize the eschaton! From mikael at pawlo.com Tue Jul 16 13:14:23 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020716181510.GE11073@nino.nu> References: <20020716180057.GA1555@8ball.wox.org> <20020716175434.GY29456@zork.net> <20020716180057.GA1555@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: At 20.15 +0200 02-07-16, Niklas Nordebo wrote: (---) SWEDISH INFESTATION! _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Tue Jul 16 13:35:37 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian D. Hicks) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020716181510.GE11073@nino.nu> References: <20020716175434.GY29456@zork.net> <20020716180057.GA1555@8ball.wox.org> <20020716181510.GE11073@nino.nu> Message-ID: <20020716203537.GB1555@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Boomtime, the 51stof Confusion, 3168, Niklas Nordebo wrote: > No, it was the other way around, it was the Santo Luigi, lost at sea due to El > Ni?o. The Pinto was recalled to Spain due to design defects, and thus only the > Santo Mario reached the castle with the princess in it. So, when I first read the name "Niklas Nordebo" I thought it was just Miles Nordin trolling. But then I looked at the e-mail address and it turns out it's just the new guy. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9NIOYjLHcIq3dHxYRAoNsAKD5/IsDe7vDFLbQlpl6ka9IxSaqJACggn3u tnIWEbNiC6OM5ARP+qQ7G/M= =zWPb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joe at barrera.org Tue Jul 16 13:47:39 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] References: <20020716175434.GY29456@zork.net> <20020716180057.GA1555@8ball.wox.org> <20020716181510.GE11073@nino.nu> <20020716203537.GB1555@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <3D34866B.8050506@barrera.org> Brian D. Hicks wrote: > On Boomtime, the 51stof Confusion, 3168, Niklas Nordebo wrote: > >>No, it was the other way around, it was the Santo Luigi, lost at sea due to El >>Ni?o. The Pinto was recalled to Spain due to design defects, and thus only the >>Santo Mario reached the castle with the princess in it. So who's going to start the 10 day, 1000 message discussion on why those twiddly n's and other non-7-bit characters are making this list and the whole web insecure, and that eighth bit is for parity and I can't type those funny things on my 33 ASR anyway? - Joe From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 17 07:11:30 2002 From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:36 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] How to use the knowledge of the failure of filtering. Message-ID: How to use the knowledge and of the failure of filtering and skills to fight filters to optimize EMACS RMAIL. a. In EMACS RMAIL, how do you filter commercial mail from something called virtumundo, separating it to another file for double checking and then for deleting?... How can you be certain that in the algorithm the string you use won't ever be coincidentally a part of incoming mail that you wouldn't want filtered?... b. How can you give priority to your favorite correspondents so that their sends go to the top of the stack of messages, or go to a priority file of messages, or are marked with graphical emphasis like enbolding, or are colorized, or ...? Exhibit. 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 -- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 17 07:57:06 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: *****SPAM***** [!CrackMonkey!] How to use the knowledge of the failure of filtering. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020717145706.GC29456@zork.net> begin Don Saklad quotation: > SPAM: -------------------- Start SpamAssassin results ---------------------- > SPAM: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been altered > SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future. > SPAM: See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. > SPAM: > SPAM: Content analysis details: (8.9 hits, 4 required) > SPAM: Hit! (0.5 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > SPAM: Hit! (1.1 points) BODY: Contains a large block of hexadecimal code > SPAM: Hit! (1.5 points) BODY: Asks you to click below > SPAM: Hit! (3.0 points) URI: Uses a dotted-decimal IP address in URL > SPAM: Hit! (-0.8 points) BODY: Image tag with an ID code to identify you > SPAM: Hit! (1.8 points) BODY: Tells you to click on a URL > SPAM: Hit! (1.8 points) No MX records for the From: domain > SPAM: > SPAM: -------------------- End of SpamAssassin results --------------------- Heh. I got bounce messages from some of the subscribers. The only problem with spam filtering is that conversations about spam itself tend to get filtered. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 17 07:57:29 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020717145728.GD29456@zork.net> Don, why the new address? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- dsaklad@zurich.ai.mit.edu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 17 10:43:32 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [ke6isf@spamcop.net: Interesting shtuff] Message-ID: <20020717174331.GM29456@zork.net> BEWARE THE SCIENTOLOGICAL BASIS OF HACKER JARGON ----- Forwarded message from Dennis Carr ----- Been reading through some stuff on Operation Clambake (http://www.clambake.org). Per a link found on the faq, specifically http://www.clambake.org/archive/dictionary/ , it seems terms such as Win, Big Win, ack, and a few others have slight ties in scientology. Film at eleven. -Dennis "And what did I get? A case of the clams." Carr ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu Wed Jul 17 12:59:37 2002 From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020717145728.GD29456@zork.net> (message from Nick Moffitt on Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:57:29 -0700) References: <20020717145728.GD29456@zork.net> Message-ID: Hi Nick and all you nice folks out there! Thank you for your interest! We had a cracker via a node in Finland via who knows where cracking fencepost. Now I've been reading my mail here! Wuv and kitheth! oo__ dWs At left sidebar click on Join Now Weblog open forum Guide to problematical Boston Public Library use http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories From mikael at pawlo.com Wed Jul 17 15:26:36 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s Message-ID: All you every wanted to know about Nick Moffitt, but were to afraid to ask (yeah, right!): http://www.gnuheter.com/article.php?sid=1673 M -- _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From joey at kitenet.net Wed Jul 17 16:33:09 2002 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> | The user group communities in the Bay Area have dwindled away, largely | because installing and using GNU/Linux isn't as exciting or new or | challenging any more. Installfests made sense in the Slackware era, but | now any newbie can point-and-click through a Mandrake install. I can now | safely write about the user groups in the past tense. Now I always figured that when I got around to making a trip back to the left coast, it'd coincide with a BALUG meeting (and a BAD meeting), and Art Tyde would magically be there, along with 15-30 people and some speaker and we'd eat tourist-food and listen to some talk, and then Heather would announce 5 or 10 events (LISA, that star trek thing, etc), and there'd be a door prize, and then we'd go to Max's for desert, and talk about gentoo and mooix and gar and history and wifoo long into the night. Installation? Eh? That's never what it was about. Are you telling me this is not going to happen? -- see shy jo From nino at nino.nu Wed Jul 17 16:45:36 2002 From: nino at nino.nu (Niklas Nordebo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [ke6isf@spamcop.net: Interesting shtuff] In-Reply-To: <20020717174331.GM29456@zork.net> References: <20020717174331.GM29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020717234536.GA30814@nino.nu> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 10:43:32AM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > BEWARE THE SCIENTOLOGICAL BASIS OF HACKER JARGON First we discover that "black hat" is a scientology term, then Securityfocus is suddenly acquired by Symantec. Coincidence? I think not. -- niklas nordebo -><- nino@nino.nu -><- +447925661290 Holy Shit! You must die to preserve life on Earth as we know it! From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 17 16:48:44 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> begin Joey Hess quotation: > Now I always figured that when I got around to making a trip back to > the left coast, it'd coincide with a BALUG meeting (and a BAD > meeting), and Art Tyde would magically be there, along with 15-30 > people and some speaker and we'd eat tourist-food and listen to some > talk, and then Heather would announce 5 or 10 events (LISA, that > star trek thing, etc), and there'd be a door prize, and then we'd go > to Max's for desert, and talk about gentoo and mooix and gar and > history and wifoo long into the night. Installation? Eh? That's > never what it was about. Are you telling me this is not going to > happen? I'm saying that's what drove people *to* the user groups. Without the influx of new blood, they've died out. There's crazyfu out there, but the user groups largely got their membership from people who were having trouble getting started with Linux. That, and the Bay Area economy went to shit. Everyone's in their Tennessee hillbilly bunker eating pork rinds and waiting for the next round of GoGo years. The GNU/Linux user base right now is mostly interested in a telephone support line and a steady job rebooting IIS, or they're hiding in the low-rent districts of the world. Hell, even Rick Moen isn't gunna make it to any San Francisco events any time soon. He called a BAD meeting and nobody came. Get used to it, man, Batman's dead. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From carton at Ivy.NET Wed Jul 17 17:19:17 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: ; from mikael@pawlo.com on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:26:36AM +0200 References: Message-ID: <20020717181917.A26657@sakima.ivy.net> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:26:36AM +0200, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > http://www.gnuheter.com/article.php?sid=1673 I was defeated by the X-Fnord! It actually worked! From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 17 17:17:46 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020718001746.GB29456@zork.net> Goddamn you Pawlo, you scared him off. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- andrei@ispi.net has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 17 17:19:59 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020717181917.A26657@sakima.ivy.net> References: <20020717181917.A26657@sakima.ivy.net> Message-ID: <20020718001959.GC29456@zork.net> begin Trolldozer for Hire quotation: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:26:36AM +0200, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > > http://www.gnuheter.com/article.php?sid=1673 > > I was defeated by the X-Fnord! It actually worked! Ha ha no wireless infrastructure for YOU, boy! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Jul 17 18:28:44 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020718012844.GT28205@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco (monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org): > Hell, even Rick Moen isn't gunna make it to any San Francisco events > any time soon. He called a BAD meeting and nobody came. I might get a hankering for really bad Chinese food. But yes, that was disheartening. On the other hand, I got to have an excellent burrito, chat with you, Biella, and the other guy for a while, and then go hear Venutian music or whatever it was at Zawinski's nightclub. (Thanks for the beer.) -- Cheers, There are only 10 types of people in this world -- Rick Moen those who understand binary arithmetic and those who don't. rick@linuxmafia.com From dep at linuxandmain.com Wed Jul 17 19:03:33 2002 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] don't toss that sperm that you previously thought was useless! Message-ID: <200207172203.33804.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-358995,00.html -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From carlos at baldric.uwo.ca Thu Jul 18 06:09:25 2002 From: carlos at baldric.uwo.ca (Carlos O'Donell) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 04:48:44PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > I'm saying that's what drove people *to* the user groups. > Without the influx of new blood, they've died out. There's crazyfu > out there, but the user groups largely got their membership from > people who were having trouble getting started with Linux. I disagree. There is a lot of new blood coming from a much younger generation of UNIX zealots. Just because they don't hang out with you doesn't mean they don't exist :} They form their own users groups. My brother, being young, has busticated his box at least six times this week. Each and every time was a unsuccessful install of the Lindows beta, procured for his enjoyment. It's time we became mentors and gurus. The Lindows beta was merely a teaching tool. I digress, maybe we don't need user groups, but rather something more akin to a set of kata. GNU/Linux through diligence, self-control and practice. c. From squinky at dasbistro.com Thu Jul 18 09:11:11 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> Message-ID: <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:09:25AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > I digress, maybe we don't need user groups, but rather something > more akin to a set of kata. ./configure; make; make install From ron at vnetworx.net Thu Jul 18 10:53:32 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Subjugator of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror of Long Island) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington Message-ID: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Tech activists protest anti-copying By Declan McCullagh Staff Writer, CNET News.com July 17, 2002, 5:55 PM PT WASHINGTON--Enthusiasts of free software disrupted a Commerce Department meeting Wednesday, insisting on their right to debate the entertainment industry over anti-copying technologies. http://news.com.com/2100-1023-944668.html?tag=fd_top From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Thu Jul 18 12:29:18 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> References: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020718192918.GA13155@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I admit that I stood idly by when the CEO gathered the borough of Brooklyn under his thumb, and although I condemned his expansion into the Isle of Manhattan, I did nothing to stop him. But this attack the city of Washington cannot go unpunished! I charge all of you to rise up and help overthrow this tyrant once and for all! - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9NxbNjLHcIq3dHxYRAngeAKCpc/+yuM9WDbyLvvynmnAqNlQ2yQCfZY2q M0NurS8BHIPhLHGR+KRg0Ns= =6YDh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Jul 18 12:34:30 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020718193429.GJ29456@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > All you every wanted to know about Nick Moffitt, but were to afraid > to ask (yeah, right!): > http://www.gnuheter.com/article.php?sid=1673 You are crazy man! Crazy horrid little moose man of the North! http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/02/07/18/1712232.shtml?tid=51 I demand expiation! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Jul 18 12:41:43 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718193429.GJ29456@zork.net> References: <20020718193429.GJ29456@zork.net> Message-ID: At 12.34 -0700 02-07-18, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: >> All you every wanted to know about Nick Moffitt, but were to afraid >> to ask (yeah, right!): > > http://www.gnuheter.com/article.php?sid=1673 >You are crazy man! Crazy horrid little moose man of the North! We do not have moose here, we have elks, you ignorant ape .-) Regards Mikael -- _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From smcmahon at eiv.com Thu Jul 18 12:44:10 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: References: <20020718193429.GJ29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020718194410.GA4103@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > > We do not have moose here, we have elks, you ignorant ape .-) You people call ham bacon, why should we be surprised you call moose elk? - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj03GokACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt2QQQCg/RO8q5oz8ezls3+6MmPc6BNS b4oAn2eZ847GwT/SP+Qon9kIsJaHwIIM =xMUS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Jul 18 12:44:39 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: References: <20020718193429.GJ29456@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020718194439.GL29456@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > We do not have moose here, we have elks, you ignorant ape .-) Oh, we have Elkern here, too. JAPURNEEZ GIRL VS PLAYBOY! I SEND YOU THIS FILE IN ORDER TO HAVE YOUR DATA! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From pawal at blipp.com Thu Jul 18 12:49:32 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718194410.GA4103@eiv.com> References: <20020718193429.GJ29456@zork.net> <20020718194410.GA4103@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020718194932.GE26205@vic20.blipp.com> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote: > > We do not have moose here, we have elks, you ignorant ape .-) > > You people call ham bacon, why should we be surprised you call moose > elk? We call it fl?sk. Delicious when served with raggmunkar and lingonsylt. -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Jul 18 13:40:06 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718194410.GA4103@eiv.com> References: <20020718193429.GJ29456@zork.net> <20020718194410.GA4103@eiv.com> Message-ID: At 15.44 -0400 02-07-18, Shawn McMahon wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: >> > > We do not have moose here, we have elks, you ignorant ape .-) >You people call ham bacon, why should we be surprised you call moose >elk? Blah-blah-blah... lwn.net M -- _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Jul 18 13:42:31 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: References: <20020718193429.GJ29456@zork.net> <20020718194410.GA4103@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020718204231.GO29456@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > Blah-blah-blah... lwn.net http://lwn.net/Articles/5108/ !!! I AM NOT PAID TO BE A ROLE MODEL -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From andrew-cm at lexical.org.uk Thu Jul 18 14:52:38 2002 From: andrew-cm at lexical.org.uk (Andrew Walkingshaw) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:11:11AM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:09:25AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > > > I digress, maybe we don't need user groups, but rather something > > more akin to a set of kata. > > ./configure; make; make install Oh I *WISH* it were that simple ... More like, based on today's form (trying to compile Mozilla on Tru64 4.0E - not my choice, I'm working in an academic environment where we have a bunch of versions of Tru64 on Alphas of varying brokenness from 4.0D to 5.1A, so this is the lowest common denominator on which Mozilla is reported to work at all. As an aside, the Alphas with flat motherboard batteries - and buggy xservers - so whenever they crash (irritatingly oftenly) or after powercuts (due to electrical work, irritatingly often right now) and you have to power-cycle the gits *they forget the bootsequence and try and boot WinNT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S INSTALLED OR NOT* are especially fun.) ... Download Mozilla 1.0 tarball. Un-gzip-and-tar into /tmp, realising it doesn't work with the native tar so using GNU tar instead. Realise that it's picky about *what compiler* (it needs cc and cxx, not gcc and g++, on Tru64) it and GTK are compiled with, so recompile GTK et al. Adjust LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point at these libraries instead. Adjust the path to point at the correct gtk-config. Realise that now /tmp is dangerously near full, given the mozilla 1.0 source tree is 250MB; move the tarball to another machine on the network to solve this problem. The last thing I need is the compile failing due to lack of disk. ./configure --disable-mailnews , having hacked the irc module out of the autoconf script. (Again, policy: I'm just the PFY here.) Watch it die. Realise this is due to the order of #includes in the test program it's bombing on. Fix this. export CC=cc; export CCC=cxx; rm config.cache; ./configure Watch it crawl. Realise this might be due to the shipped sh, for reasons totally unclear to man or beast. ^C; bash ./configure Much better. Get coffee. Come back. ./configure is finished, so - make . Bombs. Realise it's now objecting to the system make (so so far, that's system compilers, but GNU bash/tar/gzip/make necessary. Isn't this wonderful?), so gmake instead. Wait. Realise you're late for a meeting to do with the future licensing of the code you're going to be working on for the next three years as part of your PhD [1]. Swear. Swear. Swear. xlock. Cycle like mad. Andrew [1] A linear-scaling DFT implementation, for the physicists and quantum chemists in the audience.., -- "A song is a beautiful lie, a song is a beautiful lie!" - Idlewild, "Self Healer" ('Captain' EP) adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk From squinky at dasbistro.com Thu Jul 18 16:22:57 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> Message-ID: <20020718232257.GC30796@dasbistro.com> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 10:52:38PM +0100, Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:11:11AM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > > ./configure; make; make install > > Oh I *WISH* it were that simple ... > > More like, based on today's form (trying to compile Mozilla on Tru64 > 4.0E - not my choice, I'm working in an academic environment where we [snip] By about the third paragraph I would have just... wget http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.0/mozilla-alphaev6-dec-osf4.0f-1.0.tar.gz tar xvzf mozilla-alphaev6-dec-osf4.0f-1.0.tar.gz ...etc... One of the first things I do on non-Linux systems is download/compile all of the GNU tools then prepend their location to my PATH. It almost works reliably! Mozilla has become much easier to compile than it used to be. But I've only had to do it on Linux and Solaris, so maybe I don't have enough scars to speak on this matter. I did the scratchbuilt-Linux thing once for fun and it took me three weeks to complete. The biggest pains were GNOME and Mozilla. I just installed GARNOME the other day and when 'make install' turned out to be all I needed to start building it, I ran around whooping like a silly person. From spork at zork.net Thu Jul 18 16:48:53 2002 From: spork at zork.net (Emad El-Haraty) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Ethical question In-Reply-To: <20020718182435.GA3780@eiv.com> References: <20020718182435.GA3780@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020718234853.GE3557@zork.net> begin Shawn McMahon quotation: > Is it wrong to do business with a company whose existence I discovered > through the spam they sent me? > > You have been ethically advised. Please check crackmonkey.org/ethics -- Emad El-Haraty E / If you can't beat them, M\/ arrange to have them beaten. A\/ D From ron at vnetworx.net Thu Jul 18 18:07:57 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Subjugator of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror of Long Island) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <20020718192918.GA13155@8ball.wox.org> References: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> <20020718192918.GA13155@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <1027040877.23044.42476.camel@amory> On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 15:29, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > > I admit that I stood idly by when the CEO gathered the borough of > Brooklyn under his thumb, and although I condemned his expansion into > the Isle of Manhattan, I did nothing to stop him. But this attack the > city of Washington cannot go unpunished! He was lucky to speak. Fortunately, Jack Valenti was there to secure the right of the CEO to be heard. > I charge all of you to rise up and help overthrow this tyrant once and > for all! Once an overlord, always an overlord. Don't try to fight it. Revel in your badness. Give yourself to the Dark Side! When the CEO liberated France last week, there was no outrage... http://vnetworx.net/ceooffrance.txt (for those who read French) -- Votre courrier est retourn?. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Thu Jul 18 20:44:20 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <1027040877.23044.42476.camel@amory> References: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> <20020718192918.GA13155@8ball.wox.org> <1027040877.23044.42476.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020719034420.GB13155@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Subjugator of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror quotation: > On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 15:29, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the > Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > > I admit that I stood idly by when the CEO gathered the borough of > > Brooklyn under his thumb, and although I condemned his expansion into > > the Isle of Manhattan, I did nothing to stop him. But this attack the > > city of Washington cannot go unpunished! > > He was lucky to speak. Fortunately, Jack Valenti was there to secure > the right of the CEO to be heard. I hear Jack Valenti and The CEO go way back. > > I charge all of you to rise up and help overthrow this tyrant once and > > for all! > > Once an overlord, always an overlord. Don't try to fight it. Revel in > your badness. Give yourself to the Dark Side! > > When the CEO liberated France last week, there was no outrage... > http://vnetworx.net/ceooffrance.txt (for those who read French) But that's FRANCE. Who the hell cares what happens to France? - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9N4rzjLHcIq3dHxYRAsY8AKCrJxx9mTTT0bDKqJOhHG38IZidUwCfSjLW hSpYh1FRJC/RCIaQ+YOKYYY= =YSMi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From andrew-cm at lexical.org.uk Fri Jul 19 00:11:44 2002 From: andrew-cm at lexical.org.uk (Andrew Walkingshaw) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <1027056924.1906.0.camel@allevil> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> <1027056924.1906.0.camel@allevil> Message-ID: <20020719071144.GF94281@colon.colondot.net> On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:35:24AM -0400, Douglas Calvert wrote: > On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 17:52, Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: > > Wait. Realise you're late for a meeting to do with the future > > licensing of the code you're going to be working on for the next > > three years as part of your PhD [1]. Swear. Swear. Swear. xlock. > > Cycle like mad. > > What did your dissertation committee say about the licensing? A > > friend of mine is going through the same thing right now... I start in October, and they haven't decided yet, as far as I can tell. (This is a pre-existing codebase I'll be working on). I, and the creator of abinit (http://www.abinit.org/), were arguing for GPL; some people there were arguing for fully commercial... Andrew -- "Everybody helps me make my own mistakes; but left alone, I'd make them anyway." - Mansun, "Inverse Midas" ('Six') adw27@cam.ac.uk (academic) | http://www.lexical.org.uk From sneakums at zork.net Fri Jul 19 00:37:54 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> Message-ID: <20020719073754.GD17802@zork.net> commence Andrew Walkingshaw quotation: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:11:11AM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:09:25AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > > > > > I digress, maybe we don't need user groups, but rather something > > > more akin to a set of kata. > > > > ./configure; make; make install > > Oh I *WISH* it were that simple ... > > More like, based on today's form (trying to compile Mozilla on Tru64 > 4.0E - not my choice, I'm working in an academic environment where we > have a bunch of versions of Tru64 on Alphas of varying brokenness from > 4.0D to 5.1A, so this is the lowest common denominator on which > Mozilla is reported to work at all. As an aside, the Alphas with flat > motherboard batteries - and buggy xservers - so whenever they crash > (irritatingly oftenly) or after powercuts (due to electrical work, > irritatingly often right now) and you have to power-cycle the gits > *they forget the bootsequence and try and boot WinNT REGARDLESS OF > WHETHER IT'S INSTALLED OR NOT* are especially fun.) ... > [snip trumpet noises] Oh yeah, sure... you were JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS. Whining about broken proprietary operating systems is not cool, no matter what your thesis advisor says. GET THE FUCK OFF MY LIST! -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From andrew-cm at lexical.org.uk Fri Jul 19 01:38:21 2002 From: andrew-cm at lexical.org.uk (Andrew Walkingshaw) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020719073754.GD17802@zork.net> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> <20020719073754.GD17802@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020719083821.GG94281@colon.colondot.net> On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 08:37:54AM +0100, Sean Neakums wrote: > commence Andrew Walkingshaw quotation: > > Whining about broken proprietary operating systems is not cool, no > matter what your thesis advisor says. Possibly, possibly not. Anyway, my PhD starts in October: I'm being paid for this at present. Andrew From junasts at subdimension.com Fri Jul 19 05:18:12 2002 From: junasts at subdimension.com (Last Judgement Samuel) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> (Andrew Walkingshaw's message of "Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:52:38 +0100") References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> Message-ID: <87sn2fc3nf.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "AW" == Andrew Walkingshaw writes: >> ./configure; make; make install AW> Oh I *WISH* it were that simple ... apt-get install python -- Last Judgement Samuel -- +++ Last Judgement Samuel + junasts@subdimension.com + 0x8D3E92DE +++ From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 07:04:50 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020719140450.GD26212@zork.net> Hey, is that FREEDOM ROCK you got playin'? WELL TURN IT UP! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- james@usr-local-bin.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 07:05:23 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020719140523.GE26212@zork.net> You are all so crypto-Swedish. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- evansj@helpmagic.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. aeddan@myinternet.com.au has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From henrik at enberg.org Fri Jul 19 07:25:30 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020719140523.GE26212@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2002 07:05:23 -0700") References: <20020719140523.GE26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <87vg7bpzfp.fsf@enberg.org> Nick Moffitt writes: > You are all so crypto-Swedish. Doubt it. Sweden has the same kind of crypto-hostile politicians as the US. Besides, Pawlo implemented an aussie filter for Gnuheter. -- Yo mama's so nasty, she only changes her drawers once every 10000 miles. From henrik at enberg.org Fri Jul 19 07:40:06 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] burnalljpegs.org Message-ID: <87n0snpyrd.fsf@enberg.org> So, is that alleged jpeg patent anything to worry about? -- Yo mama's so fat, she has to get out of the car to change gears. From sneakums at zork.net Fri Jul 19 07:48:45 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] burnalljpegs.org In-Reply-To: <87n0snpyrd.fsf@enberg.org> References: <87n0snpyrd.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <20020719144845.GG17802@zork.net> commence Henrik Enberg quotation: > > So, is that alleged jpeg patent anything to worry about? The Star Track is over *that* way. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From james at usr-local-bin.org Fri Jul 19 07:57:04 2002 From: james at usr-local-bin.org (James Ogley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020719140450.GD26212@zork.net> References: <20020719140450.GD26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <1027090625.569.0.camel@jogley> Are you drunk? ;-) > Hey, is that FREEDOM ROCK you got playin'? > WELL TURN IT UP! -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip webmaster@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.usr-local-bin.org Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.0) This email was created and sent with Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 NEW: Advogato diary at www.advogato.org/person/riggwelter From sneakums at zork.net Fri Jul 19 08:01:09 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <1027090625.569.0.camel@jogley> References: <20020719140450.GD26212@zork.net> <1027090625.569.0.camel@jogley> Message-ID: <20020719150109.GH17802@zork.net> commence James Ogley quotation: > Are you drunk? ;-) > > > Hey, is that FREEDOM ROCK you got playin'? > > WELL TURN IT UP! The QUOTE goes BEFORE the reply, fuckface! -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 09:55:33 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020719165533.GI26212@zork.net> Take your umlauts and GO HOME! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- bker@yage.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Jul 19 09:55:49 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718232257.GC30796@dasbistro.com> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> <20020718232257.GC30796@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20020719165549.GJ26212@zork.net> begin Not Erik quotation: > I did the scratchbuilt-Linux thing once for fun and it took me three > weeks to complete. The biggest pains were GNOME and Mozilla. I > just installed GARNOME the other day and when 'make install' turned > out to be all I needed to start building it, I ran around whooping > like a silly person. Beaujolais! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 10:09:29 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mikael@pawlo.com: Nick Moffitt interview] Message-ID: <20020719170928.GL26212@zork.net> You are crazy! You announced it to dieter-l! I'll sue your pants off! They wouldn't post my message calling some putz for referring to "multimedia" for some stupid computer movie thing. Multimedia doesn't mean "made on a computer". It means you combine media. Maybe I'll sue them too! ----- Forwarded message from Mikael Pawlo ----- To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net Dear Nettimers, Some of you may be amused by my interview with Nick Moffitt. I just finished it. Moffitt presents his his thoughts on free software, why we should not use the GIF format, what the refund day was all about and the future need of hacktivism. Moffitt's answers are often tounge-in-cheek and rather initiated and militant .-) Nick Moffitt interview: http://www.gnuheter.com/article.php?sid=1673 Regards Mikael -- _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Jul 19 11:40:15 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Free Love Reading From Robin Rowe! Only $5! Message-ID: <1027104015.24399.27.camel@zingiber> -----Forwarded Message----- From: Robin Rowe To: Linux Movies Cc: open-source-programmer@yahoogroups.com Subject: [open-source-programmer] Linux Journal Readers Choice Awards Date: 19 Jul 2002 10:47:40 -0700 If you want to vote for more desktop and graphics coverage in Linux Journal you may want to vote for my GFX column under "Favorite LJ Column". Mine is the only in print Linux column on desktop or graphics. Everyone else tends to write about servers. http://www.linuxjournal.com/rc2002/ Cheers, Robin ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/wlyPtD/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/W4wwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: open-source-programmer-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org Help spread accurate information http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 11:50:43 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:37 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> Oh fucking LEARN PROCMAIL already. Goddammit, here comes the next round of slashdot pissants. I HATE YOU, MILKMAN PAWLO! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- kevin-crackmonkey@safeweb.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From pawal at blipp.com Fri Jul 19 12:08:25 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> References: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020719190824.GA4642@vic20.blipp.com> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Oh fucking LEARN PROCMAIL already. > > Goddammit, here comes the next round of slashdot pissants. I > HATE YOU, MILKMAN PAWLO! I need to get more memory for my poor server... -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From mikael at pawlo.com Fri Jul 19 12:43:06 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> Message-ID: At 11.50 -0700 02-07-19, Nick Moffitt wrote: >Oh fucking LEARN PROCMAIL already. > Goddammit, here comes the next round of slashdot pissants. I >HATE YOU, MILKMAN PAWLO! I had nothing to do with that Slashdot thing, just because I wasn't too keen on getting another load of Slashdotters subscribing here. So - how does it feel to be famous? M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From squinky at dasbistro.com Fri Jul 19 13:37:08 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <87sn2fc3nf.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> <87sn2fc3nf.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020719203708.GA25466@dasbistro.com> On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 05:18:12AM -0700, Last Judgement Samuel wrote: > >>>>> "AW" == Andrew Walkingshaw writes: > > >> ./configure; make; make install > > AW> Oh I *WISH* it were that simple ... > > apt-get install python mail it_department -s "help" < (Not Erik's message of "Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:22:57 -0700") References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> <20020718232257.GC30796@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "ne" == Not Erik writes: ne> on non-Linux systems is download/compile all of the GNU tools Yeah, doing this has made me a popular sysadmin. On Solaris, you can use NetBSD's pkgsrc through the 'zoularis' package. That should save you some time, although I haven't tried it myself yet. The way it works is you install a binary bootstrap package, then recompile everything with the usual BSD pkgsrc. -- Le fascisme est la dictature ouverte de la bourgeoisie. -- Georg Dimitrov From squinky at dasbistro.com Fri Jul 19 16:18:28 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> <20020718232257.GC30796@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20020719231828.GB29293@dasbistro.com> On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 07:28:16AM -0400, Miles Nordin wrote: > Yeah, doing this has made me a popular sysadmin. > > On Solaris, you can use NetBSD's pkgsrc through the 'zoularis' > package. That should save you some time, although I haven't tried it > myself yet. The way it works is you install a binary bootstrap > package, then recompile everything with the usual BSD pkgsrc. I usually made a habit of going to sunfreeware.com so I can use Sun's dippy package manager. Unfortunately, my biggest spree of Solaris-enhancing came during the time when Ximian was in transition form a very nice GNOME implementation to the sooper-sucky one they have now, and at the time they decided to permanently delete their GNOME for Solaris, so I spent several days getting a complete GNOME build to work. The sad thing: all of the users stuck with CDE because they claimed they didn't want to learn a new interface. But they sure did ooh and aah when they walked past my terminal. From squinky at dasbistro.com Fri Jul 19 16:32:01 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> References: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020719233200.GC29293@dasbistro.com> On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 11:50:43AM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > Goddammit, here comes the next round of slashdot pissants. I > HATE YOU, MILKMAN PAWLO! Curiosity got the better of me and I actually punched up Slashdot to go see what the article was. SLASHDOT, for crissakes. I now have a purple spot burned into my retina, and it's shaped like insipid wanking. Thanks a humpload, Nick. From sayler at speedsite.com Fri Jul 19 12:24:36 2002 From: sayler at speedsite.com (Matthew Sayler) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <20020719192436.GA31591@cesum.speedsite.com> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:11:11AM -0700, Not Erik wrote: > ./configure; make; make install hah! you kids with your G N U autoconf. Think you're so fucking special. -- /* Matt Sayler -- Sr. Network Engineer, Speedsite Online * (773) 324-2954 -- sayler@speedsite.com */ From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 18:29:00 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020720012900.GP26212@zork.net> MORE INSIPID WANKING PLEASE ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- rodneyjokerst@hotmail.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. engberg@linux.nu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. vipvop-cm@musesick.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Jul 19 18:41:33 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: References: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020720014133.GQ26212@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > I had nothing to do with that Slashdot thing, just because I wasn't > too keen on getting another load of Slashdotters subscribing here. This is the second time I've been personally slashdotted (Also, if they hadn't burned the archives, you could find the report I sent them of Comdex '98, but that doesn't count). It still feels dirty, even after the second time. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk Fri Jul 19 18:53:08 2002 From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Complaints Message-ID: <20020720015308.GT6415@offended.co.uk> I'm afraid there have been some complaints. The slashdot weenies are upset, apparently a bunch of "crackmonkey trolls" have invaded their forum. Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children? Tom. -- .^. .-------------------------------------------------------. /V\ | Tom Gilbert, London, England | http://linuxbrit.co.uk | /( )\ | Open Source/UNIX consultant | tom@linuxbrit.co.uk | ^^-^^ `-------------------------------------------------------' From joe at barrera.org Fri Jul 19 19:20:46 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Complaints References: <20020720015308.GT6415@offended.co.uk> Message-ID: <3D38C8FE.7010506@barrera.org> Tom Gilbert wrote: > Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children? While wanking insipidly? Won't the feds get you for that? From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 21:37:00 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020720043659.GR26212@zork.net> gar gar gar slashdot svenska blar blar blar ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- kevin@mail.worshipthebean.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 21:45:40 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [swaters@amicus.com: crackmonkey jpg (crackdeb.jpg)] Message-ID: <20020720044539.GS26212@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Stephen Waters ----- isn't that an ape since monkeys have tails? :) -s ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From jeremym at codepuppy.net Fri Jul 19 22:33:39 2002 From: jeremym at codepuppy.net (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020720012900.GP26212@zork.net> References: <20020720012900.GP26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020720053338.GE28678@pug.chroot.net> On Fri Jul 19, 2002 at 06:29:00PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > rodneyjokerst@hotmail.com has been successfully subscribed to > CrackMonkey. How did a hotmail account manage to successfully subscribe? -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@codepuppy.net Banacek's Eighteenth Polish Proverb: The hippo has no sting, but the wise man would rather be sat upon by the bee. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Fri Jul 19 22:43:47 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020720053338.GE28678@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020720012900.GP26212@zork.net> <20020720053338.GE28678@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020720054347.GT26212@zork.net> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation: > How did a hotmail account manage to successfully subscribe? Yeah, I remember my first beer... -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Fri Jul 19 22:46:27 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020720053338.GE28678@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020720012900.GP26212@zork.net> <20020720053338.GE28678@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020720054627.GC13155@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Jeremy McLeod quotation: > On Fri Jul 19, 2002 at 06:29:00PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > > > rodneyjokerst@hotmail.com has been successfully subscribed to > > CrackMonkey. > > How did a hotmail account manage to successfully subscribe? THEY CHECK IN, BUT THEY DON'T CHECK OUT. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9OPkyjLHcIq3dHxYRAhZUAKCEIDcIo5R1w/UJwWuJIJeNe0zqgQCgjmz7 MGjSunnjJMXh3AI9e9Akoe4= =ySrs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nick at zork.net Fri Jul 19 22:55:53 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020720055553.GU26212@zork.net> Oh, that's very clever. Did you make that one up yourself? ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- slashdotuser143981_crackmonkey@yahoo.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From mikael at pawlo.com Sat Jul 20 03:50:49 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020720055553.GU26212@zork.net> Message-ID: At 22.55 -0700 02-07-19, Nick Moffitt wrote: >----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- >>slashdotuser143981_crackmonkey@yahoo.com has been successfully >>subscribed to CrackMonkey. >Oh, that's very clever. Did you make that one up yourself? Haha - only a "hotmail" away from eternal fame! Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Sat Jul 20 03:50:01 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The Milkman cometh (was:Re: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]) In-Reply-To: <20020720014133.GQ26212@zork.net> References: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> Message-ID: At 18.41 -0700 02-07-19, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: >begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: >> I had nothing to do with that Slashdot thing, just because I wasn't >> too keen on getting another load of Slashdotters subscribing here. > This is the second time I've been personally slashdotted (Also, >if they hadn't burned the archives, you could find the report I sent >them of Comdex '98, but that doesn't count). > It still feels dirty, even after the second time. Are we supposed to believe that? All that 'I don't want to be a role model'-whining might actually be credible, would you only stay away from USA Today and other mainstream media: http://www.linuxmafia.com/refund/coverage.html Anyway, you will be happy to learn that I am getting a lot of visitors from microsoft.com. Naturally, the come from the Slashdot coverage, and not from Lwn, Newsforge or LinuxToday .-) Bymp _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Sat Jul 20 04:27:11 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Soundtrack of our lives Message-ID: The official Cr4kmonk13 anthem (not yet in Ogg): ftp://mirror.support.nl/pub/mono/mp3/goto80-monkeywarning.mp3 _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From jmorris at intercode.com.au Sat Jul 20 07:26:00 2002 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] A google mirror Message-ID: Here's a google mirror. http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/ - James -- James Morris From sneakums at zork.net Sat Jul 20 07:42:59 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] A google mirror In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020720144259.GB24349@zork.net> commence James Morris quotation: > Here's a google mirror. > > http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/ Cool! Hey, got any cat pictures? I can't seem to find any CAT PICTURES! -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From nick at zork.net Sat Jul 20 08:40:12 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020720154012.GV26212@zork.net> WELCOME GNU AZZEZ ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- azz@gnu.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Jul 20 08:51:16 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: The Milkman cometh (was:Re: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]) In-Reply-To: References: <20020719185042.GN26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020720155116.GY26212@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > All that 'I don't want to be a role model'-whining might actually be > credible, would you only stay away from USA Today and other > mainstream media: > http://www.linuxmafia.com/refund/coverage.html Ha ha. YOu know, I was a totaly dick to the USA Today reporter. I absolutely regret that. I even made reference to the 5th grade reading level. Erk. She was most charitable, considering. I learned a lot about media culture jamming through that Windows Refund thing, and a lot of it was through error. Fun times, though. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From mikael at pawlo.com Sat Jul 20 09:08:04 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: At 13.53 -0400 02-07-18, Subjugator "of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror " of Long Island wrote: >Tech activists protest anti-copying (--) Hmm - I loved reading about this event (especiallt the 'kneeling') but I have learned that some pretty important people were pissed off and will not likely consult Stallman or the CEO further. Okay - that's a fair risk when protesting, and if you consider that they didn't listen before, then what harm is done? Well, the problem is that regulators disregard free software because its defenders are too militant and too bearded. Can't you find some Jason Donovan-looking guy, dress him up in a suit and send him to congress to make the congressmen realize that public procurement policies need to include free software alternatives? That would speed 'things' up a lot. Jason Donovan should say something like this regarding public procurement policies: http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/02/08/208246 Larry Lessig is a great posterboy when it comes to the threats posed by increased patentability and strengthen copyright protection for computer programs, but he can not win this race on his own. You need some hardcore lobbyists. European regulators watch the US very closely, so please don't fuck this up. Send a milkman to Washington! Regards Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From mikael at pawlo.com Sat Jul 20 09:08:26 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] RE: [OpenEconomies] Is Linux Right for Africa? Message-ID: Is this true? M >From: "Moore, James" >To: "'openeconomies@eon.law.harvard.edu'" >Subject: RE: [OpenEconomies] Is Linux Right for Africa? >Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:56:42 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Reply-To: openeconomies@eon.law.harvard.edu >X-Loop: openeconomies@eon.law.harvard.edu >X-Sequence: 54 >Precedence: list >X-no-archive: yes >List-Id: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: > >List-Unsubscribe: > >List-Post: >List-Owner: >List-Archive: > >In Michael Taylor's article, he wonders whether it makes sense to load Linux >as the sole OS on machines to be used for children kindergarten through >sixth grade--or whether he should make the machines dual boot with Windows >as well as Linux. > >For children k-6 the most likely (and perhaps best) use of the computers >will be to run well-designed educational software games--e.g. >TreasureMathStorm, the ReaderRabbit series, TypingTutor, etc., as well as >word processing. As far as I know, most mainstream educational games will >not run on Linux. > >This would cause me to want to use Windows. > >Of course there is also the Apple Macintosh OS--which will also run all the >best software for kids--often better than the PC. > >If you really are determined to develop an alternative to Windows in >developing countries, one road would be MAC OS (which is a UNIX variant, and >thus in the same lineage as Linux) for elementary schools, and Linux for the >technical programs in technical schools. > >Of course this would require someone convincing Steve Jobs to help seed the >developing world with MACS.... > >An alternative might be a massive, coordinated campaign on the part of the >Linux community to work with educational software companies to make the best >titles Linux-compatible. > >Best, Jim > > >Dr. James F. Moore >Senior Fellow >Harvard Law School >Director, Open Economies >Berkman Center for Internet and Society >Pound Hall 511 >1563 Massachusetts Avenue >Cambridge, MA 02138 > >www.openeconomies.org >jmoore@cyber.law.harvard.edu >jmoore@geopartners.com >Office phone number US 1 617 495-7547 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mikael Pawlo [mailto:mikael@pawlo.com] >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:32 PM >To: openeconomies@eon.law.harvard.edu >Subject: [OpenEconomies] Is Linux Right for Africa? > > >In an article published by LinuxToday volounteer Michael Taylor asks if >Linux is right for Africa. Taylor is going to Ghana in two weeks to set up >IT solutions for schools and clinics. He is now seeking advice whether to >use an open or propietary solution to the African IT needs. Taylor is >anxious not to sacrifice the Ghana children on the shrine of the free >software principle and is looking for input on this issue. > >Article (with email address to Taylor): >http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-07-15-014-26-OP-CY > >Regards > >Mikael > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com > +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >Openeconomies mailing list >Openeconomies@eon.law.harvard.edu >http://eon.law.harvard.edu/lists/info/openeconomies > >_______________________________________________ >Openeconomies mailing list >Openeconomies@eon.law.harvard.edu >http://eon.law.harvard.edu/lists/info/openeconomies > _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Jul 20 09:17:20 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] RE: [OpenEconomies] Is Linux Right for Africa? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020720161720.GZ26212@zork.net> begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > Is this true? If you ask me, the only program anyone under the age of 8 should be allowed to use is a lisp interpreter. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From henrik at enberg.org Sat Jul 20 09:49:18 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [OpenEconomies] Is Linux Right for Africa? In-Reply-To: (Mikael Pawlo's message of "Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:08:26 +0200") References: Message-ID: <87znwmny41.fsf@enberg.org> Mikael Pawlo writes: > Is this true? Dunno, but suggesting that developing countries replace expensive proprietary stuff with even more expensive proprietary stuff is pretty stupid. Who is this James Moore character anyway? -- Yo mama's so nasty, her tits give sour milk. From jays at panix.com Sat Jul 20 09:55:25 2002 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: References: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 06:08:04PM +0200, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > At 13.53 -0400 02-07-18, Subjugator "of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror " of Long > Island wrote: > >Tech activists protest anti-copying > (--) > > Hmm - I loved reading about this event (especiallt the 'kneeling') but I > have learned that some pretty important people were pissed off and will not > likely consult Stallman or the CEO further. Okay - that's a fair risk when > protesting, and if you consider that they didn't listen before, then what > harm is done? Well, the problem is that regulators disregard free software > because its defenders are too militant and too bearded. Can't you find some > Jason Donovan-looking guy, dress him up in a suit and send him to congress > to make the congressmen realize that public procurement policies need to > include free software alternatives? That would speed 'things' up a lot. Mikael, which articles have you read? Mikael, Al3x's article is almost all lies. Jack Valenti formally invited us to have a seat on the panel. Did Al3x mention this in his article? Mikael, the issue here is not government procurement policies, but rather the proposal to outlaw private ownership and private use of computers. This proposal is called "DRM". There was not and there will not be any discussion by this taskforce in the DOC, in any meetings, private nor public, of government procurement policies, because the issue here is not government procurement policies. I believe that the Prince-Regent was kind enough to explain some of this to you at the last audience you had with him. > > Jason Donovan should say something like this regarding public procurement > policies: > http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/02/08/208246 > > Larry Lessig is a great posterboy when it comes to the threats posed by > increased patentability and strengthen copyright protection for computer > programs, but he can not win this race on his own. You need some hardcore > lobbyists. > > European regulators watch the US very closely, so please don't fuck this up. So much for Europe's independent and more sophisticated political culture. > > Send a milkman to Washington! > > Regards > > Mikael I may not have time to respond futher today on Crackmonkey, but perhaps in a week you may hear of the next panel and perhaps you will like the composition better. oo--JS. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sat Jul 20 12:39:27 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] RE: [OpenEconomies] Is Linux Right for Africa? In-Reply-To: <20020720161720.GZ26212@zork.net> References: <20020720161720.GZ26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020720193927.GD13155@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > > Is this true? > > If you ask me, the only program anyone under the age of 8 > should be allowed to use is a lisp interpreter. What would be really great would be some sort of cheap lisp machine for small children. Like maybe something based off a Super Nintendo. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9ObxtjLHcIq3dHxYRAvghAKCu12NMI155mW7z1VrHemo963ZwSgCfZUxZ IT6oJUowgUfi8S8jbnXquW4= =gKyf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikael at pawlo.com Sat Jul 20 12:41:21 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> References: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: At 12.55 -0400 02-07-20, Jay Sulzberger wrote: >Mikael, which articles have you read? Articles? I have just been speaking to some people that would probably listen in on some good arguments, but now they are just annoyed. Maybe they read the articles you refer to. >Mikael, the issue here is not government procurement policies, but rather >the proposal to outlaw private ownership and private use of computers. >This proposal is called "DRM". There was not and there will not be any >discussion by this taskforce in the DOC, in any meetings, private nor >public, of government procurement policies, because the issue here is not >government procurement policies. I know that, thank you .-) But I think this an issue for free software in all fields, DRM, Mickey Mouse / Sonny Bono and Eldred, procurement etc. FSF should fund someone in DC. >I believe that the Prince-Regent was kind enough to explain some of this to >you at the last audience you had with him. I rarely meet with the almighty one. >> European regulators watch the US very closely, so please don't fuck this up. >So much for Europe's independent and more sophisticated political culture. We sold it to Dr Marshall a long time ago. Lessig once told me that the EU needs to give the US a good example. However, everyone in Europe is looking at the US now. You are totally setting the IP and Internet regulation agenda, without the 200 years of IP history established in Europe. I find this most disturbing, but I would sleep better with a white collar-FSF:er in DC. Regards Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From zen at zork.net Sat Jul 20 13:25:16 2002 From: zen at zork.net (George Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SNES LISP Machine Message-ID: <20020720202516.GA19057@zork.net> Somebody's thinking of the children. I'm gonna call mine "SUPER ORAC". ----- Forwarded message from Fabrice Frances ----- Envelope-to: zen@zork.net From: "Fabrice Frances" To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Zsnes-devel] Any chance to add support for a SNES keyboard ? Errors-To: zsnes-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: zsnes-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:32:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:32:23 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ENDS_IN_Q_MARK version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Hello there, I've built a small interface that allows to plug an Oric keyboard into a SNES joypad port (for those who don't know what an Oric is, it's a 6502 micro that was a competitor of the Spectrum and the C64 in its time). I've also patched the Oric rom (a Microsoft-derived Basic) so that it uses the SNES hardware, and have put it in an own-made flash cartridge so now I have a sort of SNES-Oric hybrid (aka Super-Oric). I was wondering if there was any chance one of the ZSNES developper accepts to add emulation of this keyboard interface (the 8x8 keyboard matrix is received by reading 64 serial bits from the joypad port instead of 16) ? I'm currently working on a 16-bit rewrite of this Basic, and on a 16-bit rewrite of my own Lisp interpreter, that will introduce two new possibilities of using the SNES as a home computer... Please tell me if ZSNES developers decide by a common understanding that this keyboard is too exotic to be added to the Add-on selector box of ZSNES... I know it's now an official Nintendo product, but the SNES never had a keyboard (the NES had one with a Basic cartridge), so I think it's a nice opportunity for SNES enthusiasts too (it is also going to bring some Oric enthusiasts to the SNES world). If this keyboard is to be rejected, would you accept I try to build a special version of ZSNES with this keyboard support in it ? In this case, could you give me some hints on the best way to insert it in ZSNES as I am not familiar with ZSNES source ? TIA, Euphoric ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Zsnes-devel mailing list Zsnes-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/zsnes-devel ----- End forwarded message ----- -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org From mikael at pawlo.com Sat Jul 20 13:37:43 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [OpenEconomies] Is Linux Right for Africa? In-Reply-To: <87znwmny41.fsf@enberg.org> References: (Mikael Pawlo's message of "Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:08:26 +0200") Message-ID: At 18.49 +0200 02-07-20, Henrik Enberg wrote: >Mikael Pawlo writes: > >> Is this true? > >Dunno, but suggesting that developing countries replace expensive >proprietary stuff with even more expensive proprietary stuff is pretty >stupid. Who is this James Moore character anyway? Jim's resume etc: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/moore.html M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From carton at Ivy.NET Fri Jul 19 17:40:46 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] in designing and engineering robots: Ultimately, the wet species will prevail. Message-ID: SECRETS OF HUMANITY, REVEALED BY INTERWEB CONSUMER. -----8<----- From: Jim Allard Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:48:56 -0600 Message-Id: <20020719143949.1152216484@wolfe.bbn.com> I work for a company that makes robots, and that draws nuts like flies to a candle. A sample, with the names changed only to protect the recipient. Jim -------- From: "Tuscan" To: Subject: [Info] attn: Xxxxx Yyyyyy Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:07:52 -0500 Ms. Yyyyyy, At some point this info may be of use for you in designing and engineering robots. For the past 10 years I've been studying information outside the normal range. When one gets beyond the belief that "God " created man, in his image, they may discover other information. I did. From what I've learned a neighboring planet first developed hard wired androids as 'novelties'. Later they determined they would be useful as servants. Over an extended period the androids were continuously up-graded. They were given wet circuitry, blood, with an iron slurry and organs. They were given a heart which realigns the iron molecules (sorry- the heart isn't a pump) so the androids could be programmed and controlled electro-magnetically. These people discovered in making the androids 'wet' based they could take care of them selves rather than having to be cared for. They could then even reproduce themselves. When the inhabitants of that planet discovered that their planet is soon to go solar they chose to continue their genetics on Earth. To do so they chose an indigenous species to Earth and cross-bread that specie with the androids. What resulted is the mutated species called- 'human', which is patterned after the bear, not the ape. Anyway- that is the short version. Once again the android (human, in this case) is creating its own androids. Ultimately the wet version will prevail. Tuscan Windorn ------- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ Jim Allard, Newton, MA jallard@alum.mit.edu From nick at zork.net Sat Jul 20 16:19:35 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020720231935.GC26212@zork.net> Batten down the fucking hatches, as Sean Neakums likes to say. 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List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:25:16 -0700 Status: RO Content-Length: 3074 Lines: 77 Somebody's thinking of the children. I'm gonna call mine "SUPER ORAC". ----- Forwarded message from Fabrice Frances ----- Envelope-to: zen@zork.net From: "Fabrice Frances" To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Zsnes-devel] Any chance to add support for a SNES keyboard ? Errors-To: zsnes-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: zsnes-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:32:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:32:23 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ENDS_IN_Q_MARK version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Hello there, I've built a small interface that allows to plug an Oric keyboard into a SNES joypad port (for those who don't know what an Oric is, it's a 6502 micro that was a competitor of the Spectrum and the C64 in its time). I've also patched the Oric rom (a Microsoft-derived Basic) so that it uses the SNES hardware, and have put it in an own-made flash cartridge so now I have a sort of SNES-Oric hybrid (aka Super-Oric). I was wondering if there was any chance one of the ZSNES developper accepts to add emulation of this keyboard interface (the 8x8 keyboard matrix is received by reading 64 serial bits from the joypad port instead of 16) ? I'm currently working on a 16-bit rewrite of this Basic, and on a 16-bit rewrite of my own Lisp interpreter, that will introduce two new possibilities of using the SNES as a home computer... Please tell me if ZSNES developers decide by a common understanding that this keyboard is too exotic to be added to the Add-on selector box of ZSNES... I know it's now an official Nintendo product, but the SNES never had a keyboard (the NES had one with a Basic cartridge), so I think it's a nice opportunity for SNES enthusiasts too (it is also going to bring some Oric enthusiasts to the SNES world). If this keyboard is to be rejected, would you accept I try to build a special version of ZSNES with this keyboard support in it ? In this case, could you give me some hints on the best way to insert it in ZSNES as I am not familiar with ZSNES source ? TIA, Euphoric ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Zsnes-devel mailing list Zsnes-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/zsnes-devel ----- End forwarded message ----- -- http://www.georgebox.org - Where I keep all my stuff. http://www.emgnulation.org - Freedom in the emulation community. http://www.robotfindskitten.org - Gaming innovation. george@georgebox.org _______________________________________________ CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks http://x/mailman/listinfo/x ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Jul 20 22:10:17 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [95061978@reports.spamcop.net: [SpamCop (zen@zork.net) id:95061978][!CrackMonkey!] SNES LISP Machine] In-Reply-To: <20020721050240.GG26212@zork.net> References: <20020721050240.GG26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020721051017.GH26212@zork.net> begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://spamcop.net/w3m?i=z95061974z45e78fc1293aba1725eba120aec3e33fz > Email from 66.92.188.166 / Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:27:12 -0400 > > http://spamcop.net/w3m?i=z95061975z7b0fd83d1294d93a7c5cccd177edd3c8z > Spamvertised email address: george@georgebox.org > > http://spamcop.net/w3m?i=z95061976z86e48c5b5b8a730a5e428dd4aa331b1fz > Spamvertised website: http://www.emgnulation.org > > http://spamcop.net/w3m?i=z95061977zeee4b79decab0236264388941e358805z > Spamvertised website: http://www.georgebox.org > > http://spamcop.net/w3m?i=z95061978z9d2ce800826afde2d1efbeac4d40e326z > Spamvertised email address: zen@zork.net This is absolutely ridiculous. The above message was a forward of a mailing list mail about LISP interpreters on Super NES machines, and these URLs are just the personal signature of the person who forwarded it. I'm only going to bother with you people once, since the more false positives you collect, the more you are hurt. If you keep accepting bogus entries like this one, you'll just become useless. Congratulations on your increasing levels of irrelevance. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From dmarti at zgp.org Sat Jul 20 23:22:46 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [95061978@reports.spamcop.net: [SpamCop (zen@zork.net) id:95061978][!CrackMonkey!] SNES LISP Machine] In-Reply-To: <20020721051017.GH26212@zork.net> References: <20020721050240.GG26212@zork.net> <20020721051017.GH26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <1027232566.519.13.camel@zingiber> On Sat, 2002-07-20 at 22:10, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > This is absolutely ridiculous. The above message was a > forward of a mailing list mail about LISP interpreters on Super NES > machines, and these URLs are just the personal signature of the person > who forwarded it. Ha ha, "Monkey Master" is trolling for SpamCop Karma Points. -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org Help spread accurate information http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Sun Jul 21 02:28:24 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [95061978@reports.spamcop.net: [SpamCop (zen@zork.net) id:95061978][!CrackMonkey!] SNES LISP Machine] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:22:46 PDT." <1027232566.519.13.camel@zingiber> References: <20020721050240.GG26212@zork.net> <20020721051017.GH26212@zork.net> <1027232566.519.13.camel@zingiber> Message-ID: <200207210928.g6L9SOw0021971@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:22:46 PDT, Don Marti said: > Ha ha, "Monkey Master" is trolling for SpamCop Karma Points. Who wants to break the news to him that you can't redeem them for valuable prizes? From dmarti at zgp.org Sun Jul 21 10:07:08 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SpamCop Welcomes New Robot Masters Message-ID: <1027271229.2186.32.camel@zingiber> If you are a blithering SpamCop fanboy, click here! -----Forwarded Message----- From: SpamCop Robot To: dmarti@zgp.org Subject: SpamCop - are you a robot? Date: 21 Jul 2002 06:24:18 +0000 PLEASE READ BEFORE CLICKING! In an effort to increase the quality of communication between users and internet providers, SpamCop uses this system to separate robotic responses from human replies. Recently, an email was sent from your address (dmarti@zgp.org): Re: [95061978@reports.spamcop.net: [SpamCop (zen@zork.net) id:95061978][!CrackMonkey!] SNES LISP Machine] If this was a form letter or otherwise automatically generated, please ignore this challenge. 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From henrik at enberg.org Sun Jul 21 10:42:26 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: SpamCop Welcomes New Robot Masters In-Reply-To: <1027271229.2186.32.camel@zingiber> (Don Marti's message of "21 Jul 2002 10:07:08 -0700") References: <1027271229.2186.32.camel@zingiber> Message-ID: <87y9c5dlkt.fsf@enberg.org> Don Marti writes: Is it the robotic Ayn Rand? Then I'll be scared. -- Yo mama's so ugly, people go as her for Halloween. From nick at zork.net Sun Jul 21 11:19:52 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020721181952.GJ26212@zork.net> Goddamn se.fan.nick-moffitt.. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- crackmonkey@verhoeks.net has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm From joe at barrera.org Sun Jul 21 12:00:39 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: SpamCop Welcomes New Robot Masters References: <1027271229.2186.32.camel@zingiber> <87y9c5dlkt.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: <3D3B04D7.3070205@barrera.org> Henrik Enberg wrote: > Is it the robotic Ayn Rand? Then I'll be scared. Was there any other kind? - Joe From mikael at pawlo.com Sun Jul 21 12:09:55 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Toad at gnu -papers Message-ID: What do you make of Gilmore's anti-show-your-papers-at-the-airport -or-you-may-not-board-my-aircraft-policy-writ-of-summons? M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From chip at pobox.com Sun Jul 21 12:14:50 2002 From: chip at pobox.com (Chip Salzenberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:38 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Toad at gnu -papers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020721191450.GJ14408@perlsupport.com> According to Mikael Pawlo: > What do you make of Gilmore's anti-show-your-papers-at-the-airport > -or-you-may-not-board-my-aircraft-policy-writ-of-summons? It's an odd target. But hey, civil libertarians have a target-rich environment these days, so why the heck not? And if you can't get press out of arguing against government-imposed security regulations at an AIRPORT, you have no business calling yourself an activist. -- Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - "It furthers one to have somewhere to go." From mikael at pawlo.com Sun Jul 21 12:51:25 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> References: <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: At 12.55 -0400 02-07-20, Jay Sulzberger wrote: >Mikael, which articles have you read? (---) >I may not have time to respond futher today on Crackmonkey, but perhaps >in a week you may hear of the next panel and perhaps you will like the >composition better. A full week!? Then I will personally inspect the CEO:s quarters. Anyway, I wrote something on this to put my mind at ease. Here is a preview of my first draft: http://articles.pawlo.com/newsf06.html Regards Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From nino at nino.nu Sun Jul 21 15:27:53 2002 From: nino at nino.nu (Niklas Nordebo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020721181952.GJ26212@zork.net> References: <20020721181952.GJ26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020721222753.GE21097@nino.nu> On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 11:19:52AM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > Goddamn se.fan.nick-moffitt.. Actually, that'd be swnet.fan.nick-moffitt - carried by all kwalitee news servers. It's a nice group, although a bit full of Slashdot weenies of late. -- niklas nordebo -><- nino@nino.nu -><- +447925661290 Never give personal advice -- unless it's purely for your own amusement. -- schabe in alt.slack From carton at Ivy.NET Sat Jul 20 15:24:24 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: <20020719231828.GB29293@dasbistro.com> (Not Erik's message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:18:28 -0700") References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> <20020718232257.GC30796@dasbistro.com> <20020719231828.GB29293@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "ne" == Not Erik writes: ne> I usually made a habit of going to sunfreeware.com so I can ne> use Sun's dippy package manager. huh? You're not from around here, are you? Are you one of those new-fangled ``certified'' sysadmins? Fresh from a $3000/wk seminar about Leveraging Open-source Software in the Enterprise? ne> I spent several days getting a complete GNOME build to work. well, I did suggest a way you can avoid this problem, but of course then you wouldn't be able to teabag Sun's dippy package manager and slobber and cream all over its vendor-backed goodness. ne> the users stuck with CDE because they claimed they didn't want ne> to learn a new interface. A new interface to WHAT? CDE is just an ugly screen-hogging window manager and a few useless Motif examples. For what were they ``using'' it? What stopped them from arbitrarily mixing CDE and GNOME? You make the GNOME sound like dual-booting or something. When I was a vendor-sysadmin in 1997, I spent a few weeks building Enlightenment and all its ridiculous dependencies. There was some precedent for sysadmins building their favorite window managers and trying to convince their friends to use them, but when I announced Enlightenment I think it actually _offended_ a few people, as much as if they wandered into my office and found me puffing on a fattie spliff. ``Oh, Hi! _what_? They're called `virtual desktops.' Why are you looking at me like that? ``Is it my cereal bowl with the built-in milk straw, or the fact that I commute from Boulder? Would you like a banana?'' -- It appears as if Mr. Ebbers, after declining to say whether he is a U.S. citizen, and in light of his role at WorldCom which has brought about great disruption to the U.S. markets, is a high ranking Al-qaeda operative. He must immediately be held incommunicado without access to a lawyer and without being charged. -- Aldon Hynes From henrik at enberg.org Sun Jul 21 16:13:06 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Nick Moffitt with two T:s In-Reply-To: (Miles Nordin's message of "20 Jul 2002 18:24:24 -0400") References: <20020717233309.GD15464@kitenet.net> <20020717234844.GY29456@zork.net> <20020718130925.GA12197@systemhalted> <20020718161110.GA19211@dasbistro.com> <20020718215238.GC94281@colon.colondot.net> <20020718232257.GC30796@dasbistro.com> <20020719231828.GB29293@dasbistro.com> Message-ID: <87znwkoet9.fsf@enberg.org> Miles Nordin writes: > but when I announced Enlightenment I think it actually _offended_ a > few people, Was that was the people with eyesight? -- Yo mama's so dirty, she loses weight in the shower. From rick at linuxmafia.com Sun Jul 21 16:37:03 2002 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020721222753.GE21097@nino.nu> References: <20020721181952.GJ26212@zork.net> <20020721222753.GE21097@nino.nu> Message-ID: <20020721233703.GG28205@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Niklas Nordebo (nino@nino.nu): > Actually, that'd be swnet.fan.nick-moffitt - carried by all kwalitee news > servers. Those Swabians have strange tastes. -- Cheers, Founding member of the Hyphenation Society, a grassroots-based, Rick Moen not-for-profit, locally-owned-and-operated, cooperatively-managed, rick@linuxmafia.com modern-American-English-usage-improvement association. From nick at zork.net Sun Jul 21 17:06:29 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020722000629.GA4479@zork.net> Oh for fucks sake, man. LEARN PROCMAIL. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- lists#dfaulkner@infoseclabs.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Sun Jul 21 17:50:13 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722000629.GA4479@zork.net> References: <20020722000629.GA4479@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020722005013.GA26324@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Nick Moffitt quotation: > Oh for fucks sake, man. LEARN PROCMAIL. > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > lists#dfaulkner@infoseclabs.com has been successfully subscribed to > CrackMonkey. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- He's obviously not using procmail for purposes of INFORMATION SECURITY. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9O1bBjLHcIq3dHxYRAuUTAJ9TbBTsIdgEY1++FVEPQ/cTaNUwaACcDVED PmqAQa+Oyq2EDLwGT/zP8LE= =/2fz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmorris at intercode.com.au Sun Jul 21 22:14:42 2002 From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [LINK] Silent Infringment (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:08:28 +1000 From: David Chia To: link@www.anu.edu.au Subject: [LINK] Silent Infringment http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/music/newsid_2133000/2133426.stm Wombles creator Mike Batt has been accused of infringing the copyright of American minimalist composer John Cage, after placing a one-minute silence on his latest CD - and saying it was a Mike Batt composition. ... Marc Dooley, who performed 4'33" on clarinet, told BBC News Online that he felt he "performed it properly". ... After the record was released, he was contacted by Peters Edition who said he had infringed its copyright - and Cage's publisher was claiming a quarter of the royalties from the track. The Mechanical Copyright Protection Society (MCPS) has so far supported the American composer's case - because, it says, the track was originally registered in his name. ... Batt is adamant that his silence is an original work: "I certainly wasn't quoting his silence. I claim my silence is original silence," he told Front Row. http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=307449 "As my mother said when I told her, 'which part of the silence are they claiming you nicked?'. ---------- For Link list information see http://sunsite.anu.edu.au/link/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sun Jul 21 22:19:57 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [LINK] Silent Infringment (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020722051957.GA14308@zork.net> Oh boy oh boy it's June all over again! Now do March! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Jul 22 04:35:23 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Toad at gnu -papers In-Reply-To: <20020721191450.GJ14408@perlsupport.com> (Chip Salzenberg's message of "Sun, 21 Jul 2002 15:14:50 -0400") References: <20020721191450.GJ14408@perlsupport.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "cs" == Chip Salzenberg writes: cs> libertarians How dare the Government interfere with the FREEDOM of airlines and their passengers to negotiate ARBITRARY CONTRACTS! If the invasive security regime really annoyed passengers, then the market would find a way to eliminate it as more passengers started driving or taking the train to their business appointments. The real danger to civil liberties here is the reliance on the GOVERNMENT to protect our freedoms, which can be better protected by an open capitalist market. -- Libertarian comes as close as I can think of to describe a culture that is lunatic anti-government, that romanticizes itself as outlaw, and, more than ever, is in bed with Wall Street and enamoured with those with elite establishment credentials. -- Paulina Borsook From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 22 05:59:28 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020722125928.GB14308@zork.net> Ebb, then flow. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- hwbj@twcny.rr.com has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 06:09:45 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [LINK] Silent Infringment (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20020722051957.GA14308@zork.net> References: <20020722051957.GA14308@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020722130945.GN3058@trance.org> -- This message/rfc822 was intentionally left blank From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 22 07:40:34 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [fenrir@xs4all.nl: Re: Nick Moffitt interview] Message-ID: <20020722144034.GD14308@zork.net> DIETER-L HAS SPOKEN ----- Forwarded message from Aldert Hazenberg ----- To: Nick Moffitt Cc: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net X-FenHeader: "Cyberspace. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators..." --William Gibson, Neuromancer X-FenHyper: "flowing through space, endless , what is time ?" -- FenOnSugar X-FenrirsLaw: "It's like that, and that's the way it is!" -- FenChannelGuard On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:09:54AM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > > begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > > Some of you may be amused by my interview with Nick Moffitt. > > I AM NOT A ROLE MODEL Yes You Are. > > > I AM NOT *PAID* TO BE A ROLE MODEL > Role models come in all types : paid, unpaid, willing, unwilling etc. > thank you. Thank you for accepting your role in life. :) Aldert Hazenberg -- The Roman Rule The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From joey at kitenet.net Mon Jul 22 10:29:13 2002 From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [LINK] Silent Infringment (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20020722130945.GN3058@trance.org> References: <20020722051957.GA14308@zork.net> <20020722130945.GN3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020722172913.GF1671@silk.kitenet.net> Niels Bakker wrote: > You are violating the copyright terms of my 1994 email entitled "HELP! HOW DO I GET REDHAT TO WORK WITH MY NE2000? THX!". Exepect to hear from my lawyers. -- see shy jo From squinky at dasbistro.com Mon Jul 22 12:09:53 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [swaters@amicus.com: crackmonkey jpg (crackdeb.jpg)] In-Reply-To: <20020720044539.GS26212@zork.net> References: <20020720044539.GS26212@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020722190953.GA8783@dasbistro.com> On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 09:45:40PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Stephen Waters ----- > > isn't that an ape since monkeys have tails? :) > -s http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/public/lyrics/cs-uwp/folk/z/zamboanga HTH. FOAD. From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 13:24:02 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [LINK] Silent Infringment (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20020722172913.GF1671@silk.kitenet.net> References: <20020722051957.GA14308@zork.net> <20020722130945.GN3058@trance.org> <20020722172913.GF1671@silk.kitenet.net> Message-ID: <20020722202401.GO3058@trance.org> * joey@kitenet.net (Joey Hess) [Mon 22 Jul 2002, 19:36 CEST]: > Niels Bakker wrote: >> > You are violating the copyright terms of my 1994 email entitled "HELP! > HOW DO I GET REDHAT TO WORK WITH MY NE2000? THX!". Exepect to hear from > my lawyers. Apparently, if they're on crack, it takes significantly less than an infinite number of monkeys to produce nonsense like this. -- Niels. -- From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Jul 22 14:07:54 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] We killed the dinosaurs. Message-ID: <20020722210754.GJ1229@pug.chroot.net> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=4&u=/nm/20020722/sc_nm/environment_extinction_dc_2 >The black stork is one of many species which scientists fear could >follow the dinosaurs down the road to extinction because of human >activities such as logging, farming and building dams. I tried looking on google for some supporting evidence vis a vis logging and dinosaur extinction, but all I could find was Greenpeace pages full of tree-hugging hippie bullshit. Goddamn hippies clogging up the information pool. I'd like to punch the fuck out of a patchoulli stinking reefer toking off-key guitar playing van driving flower power motherfucker right now. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From joe at barrera.org Mon Jul 22 14:14:45 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] We killed the dinosaurs. References: <20020722210754.GJ1229@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <3D3C75C5.5070201@barrera.org> Jeremy McLeod wrote: > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=4&u=/nm/20020722/sc_nm/environment_extinction_dc_2 > >>The black stork is one of many species which scientists fear could >>follow the dinosaurs down the road to extinction because of human >>activities such as logging, farming and building dams. Yep, amazing. Most people don't even know we were logging and building dams back when the dinosaurs were around. And what exactly is wrong with the dinosaurs being extinct, anyway? - Joe From jeremym at loonix.org Mon Jul 22 14:18:46 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] We killed the dinosaurs. In-Reply-To: <3D3C75C5.5070201@barrera.org> References: <20020722210754.GJ1229@pug.chroot.net> <3D3C75C5.5070201@barrera.org> Message-ID: <20020722211846.GK1229@pug.chroot.net> On Mon Jul 22, 2002 at 02:14:45PM -0700, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Jeremy McLeod wrote: > >>The black stork is one of many species which scientists fear could > >>follow the dinosaurs down the road to extinction because of human > >>activities such as logging, farming and building dams. > > Yep, amazing. Most people don't even know we were logging and building > dams back when the dinosaurs were around. > > And what exactly is wrong with the dinosaurs being extinct, anyway? Think of the lost opportunities for cash-crop brontosaur farms. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From katherim at sfu.ca Mon Jul 22 14:39:43 2002 From: katherim at sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Scientologists killed the dinosaurs. In-Reply-To: <20020722210754.GJ1229@pug.chroot.net> from "Jeremy McLeod" at Jul 22, 2002 05:07:54 PM Message-ID: <200207222139.OAA01571@fraser.sfu.ca> begin Jeremy McLeod scribblings: > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=4&u=/nm/20020722/sc_nm/environment_extinction_dc_2 > >The black stork is one of many species which scientists fear could > >follow the dinosaurs down the road to extinction because of human > >activities such as logging, farming and building dams. > > I tried looking on google for some supporting evidence vis a vis > logging and dinosaur extinction, but all I could find was Greenpeace > pages full of tree-hugging hippie bullshit. > > Goddamn hippies clogging up the information pool. I'd like to punch the > fuck out of a patchoulli stinking reefer toking off-key guitar playing > van driving flower power motherfucker right now. You are obviously unaware of The Truth. It was Xenu's thetans and their takeover of earth that caused the catastrophe which led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Since these thetans are now inhabiting humans, it is quite obvious that "we" caused said extinction. Clear scientific[1] evidence can be found at: http://freezoneamerica.org/lkin/v3-3-glob.html Cheers, Kaye Mason [1] Cough cough. Hack hack. Kaye's Motto for the 00s: "I read it on the internet, so it must be true." From dep at linuxandmain.com Mon Jul 22 14:43:41 2002 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] but nobody here has a cool hat . . . Message-ID: <200207221743.41408.dep@linuxandmain.com> http://uclick.com/client/nyt/db/2002/07/21/index.html -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 22 14:50:57 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020722215057.GG14308@zork.net> Get back to virgule, bastich! ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- gary@inauspicious.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 22 14:51:11 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> oh boy. guido. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- Guido@flexweb.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 15:27:36 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > Guido@flexweb.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. * nick@zork.net (Nick Moffitt) [Mon 22 Jul 2002, 23:54 CEST]: > oh boy. guido. Any better name than "post-slashdot linux hippie user influx" for this? -- Niels. -- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 22 15:31:20 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> begin Niels Bakker quotation: > Any better name than "post-slashdot linux hippie user influx" for > this? Learn procmail, twit. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com Mon Jul 22 15:39:16 2002 From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (mwmiller@columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Cannot route to sender localhost, fool! In-Reply-To: <200207221209.g6MC9f613293@localhost.localdomain> References: <200207221209.g6MC9f613293@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20020722223916.GA528@columbus.rr.com> On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 08:09:41AM -0400, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > crackmonkey@crackmonkey.org > (reason: 550 rejected: cannot route to sender > ) Arrrr, I'm driving me nuts. -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 15:41:27 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> * monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) [Tue 23 Jul 2002, 00:34 CEST]: > Learn procmail, twit. Who are you talking to, Willis? In --- :0 r * ^List-Id:.*crackmonkey cm/ --- you wouldn't even be able to tell what the `r' does without consulting the Fucking Manual. -- Niels. From laurence at isp.northwestern.edu Mon Jul 22 15:44:04 2002 From: laurence at isp.northwestern.edu (Laurence Berland) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <200207221844.04373.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> On Monday 22 July 2002 06:31 pm, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > Learn procmail, twit. Maybe I'm the fool for pointing this out, but procmail won't help to tell you where the idiot spammer got your address from, will it? From dtype at dtype.org Mon Jul 22 15:46:56 2002 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:41:27AM +0200, Niels Bakker wrote: > you wouldn't even be able to tell what the `r' does without > consulting the Fucking Manual. I'm not sure I've ever seen a sysadmin yell at someone for reading the manual. I guess RTFM isn't good enough any more. -drew -- M. Drew Streib Independent Rambler, Software/Standards/Freedom/Law -- http://dtype.org/ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 22 15:47:11 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020722224710.GL14308@zork.net> begin Niels Bakker quotation: > --- > :0 r > * ^List-Id:.*crackmonkey > cm/ > --- Oh that's cute. DO you have to make a new one for each list you subscribe to? WHat a joke. :0: * ^(X-list: |Sender: owner-|X-BeenThere: |Delivered-To: mailing list |X-(Mailing-)?List: <|X-Loop: )\/[^@/\.~>]+ inboxes/$MATCH > you wouldn't even be able to tell what the `r' does without > consulting the Fucking Manual. Mostly because I don't use maildir. I like my mbox intact, thank you. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 22 15:47:45 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <200207221844.04373.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> References: <200207221844.04373.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> Message-ID: <20020722224745.GM14308@zork.net> begin Laurence Berland quotation: > Maybe I'm the fool for pointing this out, but procmail won't help to > tell you where the idiot spammer got your address from, will it? WHy do you care? The spams get caught by decent filters anyway. WHy do you *read* your spam? -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 15:49:48 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> * dtype@dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) [Tue 23 Jul 2002, 00:49 CEST]: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:41:27AM +0200, Niels Bakker wrote: >> you wouldn't even be able to tell what the `r' does without >> consulting the Fucking Manual. > I'm not sure I've ever seen a sysadmin yell at someone for reading the > manual. > > I guess RTFM isn't good enough any more. Yeah! Learn procmail, twit! -- Niels. -- From dtype at dtype.org Mon Jul 22 15:54:48 2002 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:49:48AM +0200, Niels Bakker wrote: > Yeah! Learn procmail, twit! Yeah. Like adding a separate procmail entry for every list I join? It isn't _learning_ procmail, it is learning to _use_ procmail, that I wish upon you now. - -drew - -- M. Drew Streib Independent Rambler, Software/Standards/Freedom/Law -- http://dtype.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9PI0yg2i7WWb7wYwRAiwSAJ46+eHMsYIN86myUqTxqp7Kq9C7uwCcChG5 Y/I9coiPyb5KrAbwGjplk9w= =h0lO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Mon Jul 22 16:00:36 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:44:04 EDT." <200207221844.04373.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> References: <200207221844.04373.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> Message-ID: <200207222300.g6MN0apu019215@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:44:04 EDT, Laurence Berland said: > Maybe I'm the fool for pointing this out, but procmail won't help to tell you > where the idiot spammer got your address from, will it? So what's your point? From laurence at isp.northwestern.edu Mon Jul 22 16:05:08 2002 From: laurence at isp.northwestern.edu (Laurence Berland) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722224745.GM14308@zork.net> References: <200207221844.04373.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> <20020722224745.GM14308@zork.net> Message-ID: <200207221905.08411.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> On Monday 22 July 2002 06:47 pm, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > WHy do you care? The spams get caught by decent filters > anyway. WHy do you *read* your spam? I don't. But some people might want to know where their address is leaking from. This is only somewhat useful for mailing lists, but let's say you're registering for an account at some online merchant who promises not to use your address for spam, and more importantly promises not to give it out. If you say your email is user=amazon.com@domain.com and then you get spam for penis enlargement addressed to that, you've caught urself a cheat... sometimes I wonder if you think evil enough... From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 16:09:01 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * dtype@dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) [Tue 23 Jul 2002, 00:57 CEST]: > It isn't _learning_ procmail, it is learning to _use_ procmail, that > I wish upon you now. Like in Mr Moffitt's example, where he sets himself up for an infinite amount of mboxes? Mutt doesn't take wildcards in its `mailboxes' command either. mboxes are good in the same way downtime is good - it may give the servers some rest but definitely not the sysadmin. Please flame me over the signature separator I botched in my previous mail if you want to do something constructive for a change. -- Niels. - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: . iD8DBQE9PJCNr7WIsA3LmMURAvh6AKC6brw2cT1zDEnCu4hfDQCgpTa4UwCgmGHT VM0je5pOdzVlaxlGtpXFH0g= =k5f6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jays at panix.com Mon Jul 22 16:10:49 2002 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [seth.johnson@RealMeasures.dyndns.org: Declan: Free Software Advocates on Commerce Dept DRM Panel] Message-ID: <20020722231048.GA9549@panix.com> ----- Forwarded message from Seth Johnson ----- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:39:52 -0400 From: Seth Johnson Organization: Real Measures Subject: Declan: Free Software Advocates on Commerce Dept DRM Panel (Forwarded from Declan McCullagh's POLITECH list, declan@well.com. Relevant passage pasted below. -- Seth) -------- Original Message -------- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:34:57 -0400 From: Declan McCullagh Previous Politech message: "Photos from geektivists disrupting Commerce Dept. roundtable" http://www.politechbot.com/p-03770.html --- http://news.com.com/2010-1079-945347.html?tag=politech "(Bond) is committed to having a seat at the table for New Yorkers for Fair Use along with other consumer groups as a follow-up," a spokeswoman replied. "We put out a Federal Register notice for both the July and the December roundtables, and no consumer groups came to us asking to be invited. Now that a range of new voices is asking to be heard, we are honoring that request," she said. [...] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Protest redux: Angry tech activists upset at being excluded from a Commerce Department roundtable on anti-copying technology disrupted the meeting, we reported Wednesday. That article said that Phillip Bond, Undersecretary of Commerce for Technology, allowed the free software fans to speak briefly, but did not seem inclined to include them in a the next roundtable. Bond phoned us Thursday to say he was "certainly open" to including representatives of New Yorkers for Fair Use in a future roundtable. Wednesday's meeting was the second in a series on digital rights management, with representatives from the Motion Picture Association of America, Walt Disney, the Recording Industry Association of America, Microsoft, Intel, News Corp., the Home Recording Rights Coalition and Digitalconsumer.org. Bond said he would hold a special public meeting solely to air concerns about fair use and related consumer rights, in addition to the existing roundtable series. "I explicitly agreed to include the New York fair-use group," Bond said, adding that he had stressed he would be happy to work with its members. But Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation doesn't seem to agree. In an e-mail sent to CNET News.com, Stallman said Bond "weaseled out of it by accusing us of trying to 'bully' him, but we never made any threats--those all come from his side." We forwarded a copy of Stallman's complaint to the Commerce Department, which reiterated its invitation. "(Bond) is committed to having a seat at the table for New Yorkers for Fair Use along with other consumer groups as a follow-up," a spokeswoman replied. "We put out a Federal Register notice for both the July and the December roundtables, and no consumer groups came to us asking to be invited. Now that a range of new voices is asking to be heard, we are honoring that request," she said. But it's not clear how effective the efforts of Stallman and other activists to be included in the Commerce Department's discussion of digital rights management will be, as any new digital rights law must be enacted by Congress, not set by Commerce Department fiat. What's more, James Rogan, another Commerce Department undersecretary, has been cool to a proposal by Senate Commerce chairman Fritz Hollings, D-S.C., that would forcibly implant anti-copying technology into electronic devices. "Before Congress rushes into the imposition of a legislative solution, I hope its members will grant more time for the free market to find its own middle ground," Rogan said in April. During a hearing in March, Republicans were far more hostile to Hollings' bill than Democrats. Viewing it as a sop to Hollywood, House Republicans have also condemned it, and the Bush administration is hardly likely to endorse Hollings' approach either. ----- End forwarded message ----- From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 16:16:55 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <200207221905.08411.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> References: <200207221844.04373.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> <20020722224745.GM14308@zork.net> <200207221905.08411.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> Message-ID: <20020722231655.GV3058@trance.org> > On Monday 22 July 2002 06:47 pm, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San > Francisco wrote: >> WHy do you care? The spams get caught by decent filters >> anyway. WHy do you *read* your spam? * laurence@isp.northwestern.edu (Laurence Berland) [Tue 23 Jul 2002, 01:08 CEST]: > I don't. But some people might want to know where their address is leaking > from. This is only somewhat useful for mailing lists, but let's say you're > registering for an account at some online merchant who promises not to use > your address for spam, and more importantly promises not to give it out. If > you say your email is user=amazon.com@domain.com and then you get spam for > penis enlargement addressed to that, you've caught urself a cheat... > sometimes I wonder if you think evil enough... In the case of CrackMonkey we could only point and say "Oh dear, this dirty no-life spammer spidered the website with archived posts and culled our email addresses off it," after which we could reach for the tacnukes and exterminate the vermin; so I do concede that the usefulness of a so-called `plussed localpart' has its limits. -- Niels (not nonplussed nonetheless.) -- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 22 16:20:25 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020722232025.GN14308@zork.net> begin Niels Bakker quotation: > Like in Mr Moffitt's example, where he sets himself up for an infinite > amount of mboxes? Mutt doesn't take wildcards in its `mailboxes' > command either. mailboxes `echo ~/inboxes/*` Works great. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 22 16:21:33 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <200207221905.08411.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> References: <200207221844.04373.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> <20020722224745.GM14308@zork.net> <200207221905.08411.laurence@isp.northwestern.edu> Message-ID: <20020722232133.GO14308@zork.net> begin Laurence Berland quotation: > If you say your email is user=amazon.com@domain.com and then you get > spam for penis enlargement addressed to that, you've caught urself a > cheat... sometimes I wonder if you think evil enough... Not evil enough to use a bunch of patent-abusing fuckwits like Amazon. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 16:30:00 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722232025.GN14308@zork.net> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> <20020722232025.GN14308@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020722233000.GX3058@trance.org> * monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) [Tue 23 Jul 2002, 01:22 CEST]: > begin Niels Bakker quotation: >> Like in Mr Moffitt's example, where he sets himself up for an infinite >> amount of mboxes? Mutt doesn't take wildcards in its `mailboxes' >> command either. > > mailboxes `echo ~/inboxes/*` > > Works great. You don't escape spaces or shell metacharacters besides / in your previously posted regexp. If it works great, it's because nobody is abusing it - but I'm sure we're all happy for you that it works! TIE, -- Niels. -- From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Jul 22 16:38:11 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722233000.GX3058@trance.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> <20020722232025.GN14308@zork.net> <20020722233000.GX3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020722233811.GA2341@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Niels Bakker quotation: > You don't escape spaces or shell metacharacters besides / in your > previously posted regexp. If it works great, it's because nobody > is abusing it - but I'm sure we're all happy for you that it works! You're just mad you didn't think of it first. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9PJdijLHcIq3dHxYRAmKJAJ4t+RLk8V3DKROn/lkbKCny/GyotwCfTyFt WxR71tLGQ3zbG5ymiPPqkoE= =Ima+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From niels=cm at bakker.net Mon Jul 22 16:43:05 2002 From: niels=cm at bakker.net (Niels Bakker) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722233811.GA2341@8ball.wox.org> References: <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> <20020722232025.GN14308@zork.net> <20020722233000.GX3058@trance.org> <20020722233811.GA2341@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020722234305.GA3058@trance.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * hick0142@tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) [Tue 23 Jul 2002, 01:41 CEST]: > You're just mad you didn't think of it first. We had the procmail and sanity thread a few weeks ago already. -- Niels. - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: . iD8DBQE9PJiJr7WIsA3LmMURAjPjAKDFY8y1aCJWF8S5vqTDrtxImHHnKACfXJZo AFLDQXc1fpvsgJ81N+xdAXM= =csDf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 22 16:49:16 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722233000.GX3058@trance.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> <20020722232025.GN14308@zork.net> <20020722233000.GX3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020722234916.GP14308@zork.net> begin Niels Bakker quotation: > You don't escape spaces or shell metacharacters besides / in your > previously posted regexp. If it works great, it's because nobody > is abusing it - but I'm sure we're all happy for you that it works! Wrong: I catch $, ~, and . among others. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Mon Jul 22 16:52:46 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722234916.GP14308@zork.net> References: <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> <20020722232025.GN14308@zork.net> <20020722233000.GX3058@trance.org> <20020722234916.GP14308@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020722235246.GQ14308@zork.net> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > begin Niels Bakker quotation: > > You don't escape spaces or shell metacharacters besides / in your > > previously posted regexp. If it works great, it's because nobody > > is abusing it - but I'm sure we're all happy for you that it works! > > Wrong: I catch $, ~, and . among others. Anyway, my actual procmailrc is default-exclusive for special characters.. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Mon Jul 22 17:00:29 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:39 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722234305.GA3058@trance.org> References: <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> <20020722232025.GN14308@zork.net> <20020722233000.GX3058@trance.org> <20020722233811.GA2341@8ball.wox.org> <20020722234305.GA3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020723000029.GB2341@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Niels Bakker quotation: > We had the procmail and sanity thread a few weeks ago already. We start a new one weekly UNTIL PEOPLE LEARN! - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9PJycjLHcIq3dHxYRAhdAAKCKBzGhbXnBBLMH6XAnjqhjTDJm6QCcCxlr 9ZNwghuKQZ6ugpJW5CCEKQs= =MY81 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 22 17:36:13 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Seth is a commie! Message-ID: <20020723003613.GS14308@zork.net> http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/7/16/93620 > 45 GOALS OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY [...] > # Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. > # Do away with loyalty oaths. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From smcmahon at eiv.com Mon Jul 22 17:37:34 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020723003734.GA20078@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Niels Bakker quotation: > > Any better name than "post-slashdot linux hippie user influx" for this? At least some of us Slashdot trolls bother to learn procmail, dolt. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj08pU4ACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt0cywCeMd7OhP6gzhliBVOtsVUrhSDu ATUAoJhLJXn+5+kAsIHi/XvBJ5ikc9Nx =D5n7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From guido at flexweb.org Tue Jul 23 04:19:24 2002 From: guido at flexweb.org (Guido Schoonheim) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> Message-ID: <20020723131645.O81860-100000@keyser.soze.com> On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Niels Bakker wrote: > * nick@zork.net (Nick Moffitt) [Mon 22 Jul 2002, 23:54 CEST]: > > oh boy. guido. > > Any better name than "post-slashdot linux hippie user influx" for this? > How about 'taking a look at wat Niels mad irc ravings are about'? Take your cheap shots elsewere dude. Mafkees -- [ It's about sex drugs and rock'n'roll, pure violence and brutal rapings. It's about building bombs, penetrating military protected buildings and taking over the world. The same thing we do every night pinkey. ] From carton at Ivy.NET Tue Jul 23 04:48:49 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> (Niels Bakker's message of "Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:09:01 +0200") References: <20020722215111.GH14308@zork.net> <20020722222736.GQ3058@trance.org> <20020722223120.GK14308@zork.net> <20020722224127.GS3058@trance.org> <20020722224655.GF10210@dtype.org> <20020722224947.GT3058@trance.org> <20020722225448.GG10210@dtype.org> <20020722230901.GU3058@trance.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "nb" == Niels Bakker writes: nb> mboxes are good in the same way downtime is good Oh, no! We don't want that! Down time is BAD. It harms productivity and can cost your enterprise MILLIONS. Thank you for warning us about the hidden costs of mboxes, niels=cm. Without vigilant trolls like Mr. Niels=cm, we would be mismanaging our businesses risk and endangering our recent hard-won increases in ROI. nb> it may give the servers some rest but definitely not the nb> sysadmin. Oh, yeah, ``servers,'' ha hah, I remember those! ``I'm sticking with Netware 3.12 because I don't trust the stability of the bleeding edge Netware 4.0, and a medium-sized enterprise like ours has no need for the destabilizing directory services extras. I always like to stay away from .0 versions on my `servers.' '' Servers. Sheez, this niels=cm fellow is a fucking RIOT! But I do have one question: what's a sysadmin? -- Harrison Ford, in an interview he gave after part IV came out, said that Lucas had exactly two different directions he would give the actors before a retake: ``faster'' or ``better.'' Never any other directions. From junasts at subdimension.com Tue Jul 23 05:30:26 2002 From: junasts at subdimension.com (Last Judgement Samuel) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] in designing and engineering robots: Ultimately, the wet species will prevail. In-Reply-To: (Miles Nordin's message of "19 Jul 2002 20:40:46 -0400") References: Message-ID: <8765z68w4d.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MN" == Miles Nordin writes: JA> I work for a company that makes robots, and that draws nuts JA> like flies to a candle. Arr! It's drawing me nuts! -- Last Judgement Samuel -- +++ Last Judgement Samuel + junasts@subdimension.com + 0x8D3E92DE +++ From smcmahon at eiv.com Tue Jul 23 10:31:02 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play Message-ID: <20020723173102.GA23210@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Here's what happens when you apply US law to folks in other countries; other countries turn around and apply their laws to you: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/07/22/borderless.internet.ap/index.html - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj09ktUACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt3iYwCgsYe9sb8cpW95DkCMAQ209f/k GXsAoIeWoLK08h3zPm17H+2JtDRwACi9 =KSRf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From claviola at ax.net.br Tue Jul 23 15:45:38 2002 From: claviola at ax.net.br (Carlos Laviola) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play In-Reply-To: <20020723173102.GA23210@eiv.com> References: <20020723173102.GA23210@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 01:31:02PM -0400, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Here's what happens when you apply US law to folks in other countries; > other countries turn around and apply their laws to you: > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/07/22/borderless.internet.ap/index.html Thank you for forwarding Slashdot stories to the list! Not too many people visit Slashdot on a daily basis. -- Carlos Laviola AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500 From smcmahon at eiv.com Tue Jul 23 16:48:01 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play In-Reply-To: <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> References: <20020723173102.GA23210@eiv.com> <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <20020723234800.GC24799@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Carlos Laviola quotation: > > Thank you for forwarding Slashdot stories to the list! Not too many > people visit Slashdot on a daily basis. Ah, but this way, you get to continue the illusion of being too cool to read Slashdot. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj096zAACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt2z5gCdFHRaL/pkYwneyyfTAYqxVPqI f7gAoNfAw3ZtsDL6KxCSfHsigay6cV/P =bzYD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jordanb at hafd.org Tue Jul 23 16:56:09 2002 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play In-Reply-To: <20020723234800.GC24799@eiv.com> References: <20020723173102.GA23210@eiv.com> <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> <20020723234800.GC24799@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020723235606.GA3218@gandalf> On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 07:48:01PM -0400, Shawn McMahon wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > begin Carlos Laviola quotation: > > > > Thank you for forwarding Slashdot stories to the list! Not too many > > people visit Slashdot on a daily basis. > > Ah, but this way, you get to continue the illusion of being too cool to > read Slashdot. No that's what Alterslash is for. -- Jordan Bettis Why did the Roman Empire collapse? What is Latin for office automation? -- Alan J Perlis: Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN 1982 From dmarti at zgp.org Tue Jul 23 16:57:12 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play In-Reply-To: <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> References: <20020723173102.GA23210@eiv.com> <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <1027468632.5432.592.camel@zingiber> On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 15:45, Carlos Laviola wrote: > Thank you for forwarding Slashdot stories to the list! Not too many > people visit Slashdot on a daily basis. And what's up with their DNS, anyway? While trying to retrieve the URL: http://slashdot.se/ The following error was encountered: Unable to determine IP address from host name for slashdot.se -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org Help spread accurate information http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. From joe at barrera.org Tue Jul 23 19:36:54 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play References: <20020723173102.GA23210@eiv.com> <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <3D3E12C6.4090504@barrera.org> Carlos Laviola wrote: > Thank you for forwarding Slashdot stories to the list! Not too many > people visit Slashdot on a daily basis. But what about The Register? If all the good posts from theregister.co.uk were posted here, then that would be just one less web site I'd have to visit. Get on the ball, people! Make my life easier! - Joe From mr.bad at pigdog.org Wed Jul 24 10:33:29 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Learn Procmail Message-ID: <87eldt81zq.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> So, OK, I think I mentioned here that Klez/Elkern/etc. worms were driving me nuts (arr). And that I couldn't figger out how to make procmail disable them. But I did! I did it! Here's how: I wrote a quick Perl script to identify incoming messages that looked like Elkern worms. That is, they have attached files that have a file extension different from the stated MIME type. It looks like this (kleen.pl): ---8<--- #!/usr/bin/perl use MIME::Parser; sub setup_mime_types; sub main { setup_mime_types(); my $parser = new MIME::Parser; $parser->output_to_core(1); $entity = $parser->parse(\*STDIN) || die "Can't parse $fname: $!\n"; $i = 0; $err = 0; foreach $part ($entity->parts()) { $i++; $type = $part->mime_type; my $filename = $part->head->recommended_filename; if ($filename) { ($suff) = ($filename =~ /\.([^\.]+?)$/); $suff = lc($suff); $stype = $ext_to_type{$suff}; if ($stype ne $type) { $err = 1; last; } } } exit($err); } sub setup_mime_types { open(MT, ") { chomp; next if /^#/; next if /^\s*$/; @vals = split; $mime_type = shift @vals; $type_to_ext{$mime_type} = @vals; foreach $val(@vals) { $ext_to_type{$val} = $mime_type; } } $ext_to_type{"pif"} = "application/x-msdos-pif"; $ext_to_type{"scr"} = "application/x-windows-screensaver"; } main(); ---8<--- Then I added the following recipes to my .procmailrc: ---8<--- :0cW | /home/evan/bin/kleen.pl :0e: infected ---8<--- The first phrase says to pipe the message to kleen.pl, but not to let it eat the message (c) and not to emit anything to stderr if kleen.pl has an error code (W). The second one says that, if the previous recipe had an error, send the message to the "infected" folder. That's it! No more Elkern for me! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work like you're gonna get fired, dance like Hunter S. Thompson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mikael at pawlo.com Wed Jul 24 13:38:46 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] OSC 2002 Message-ID: Crackmonkies, The 2002 edition of O'Reilly's Open Source Convention has started with a blast of names such as Larry Wall, Larry Lessig and Richard M Stallman. The always present Dan Gillmor is keeping a great webblog of events: http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/dan_gillmor/e journal/3726389.htm So is Doc Searls: http://doc.weblogs.com/2002/07/24#liveFromOscon Don't miss the pictures over at O'Reilly (unfortunately, no scandals): http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oscon2002/wednesday_photos1.html Or if you prefer clicking the links from your broswer: http://grep.law.harvard.edu/article.pl?sid=02/07/24/1525226 Regards Mikael _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 24 15:52:51 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020724225251.GA21344@zork.net> Go away. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- walkie@telocity.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 24 15:53:56 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020724225356.GB21344@zork.net> Fuck off. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- rosiemeow@aol.com has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From jspence at lightconsulting.com Wed Jul 24 18:36:33 2002 From: jspence at lightconsulting.com (Jason Spence) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020724225356.GB21344@zork.net>; from nick@zork.net on Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 03:53:56PM -0700 References: <20020724225356.GB21344@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020724183633.C83868@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 03:53:56PM -0700, Nick Moffitt said: > Fuck off. My, you've certainly been creative lately. -- - Jason "No one gets too old to learn a new way of being stupid." From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 24 18:42:56 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020724183633.C83868@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> References: <20020724225356.GB21344@zork.net> <20020724183633.C83868@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> Message-ID: <20020725014256.GA14299@zork.net> begin Jason Spence quotation: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 03:53:56PM -0700, Nick Moffitt said: > > Fuck off. > > My, you've certainly been creative lately. Yes, fuck off. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 24 18:56:36 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] probability of dying Message-ID: <20020725015636.GB14299@zork.net> http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm Single most likely cause of injurious death is motor vehicle injury. It was trumped only by the larger categories in which it sits (all transport injuries, all accidental deaths, and all deaths due to injury). -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From 0272456089 at djuice.co.nz Wed Jul 24 20:25:16 2002 From: 0272456089 at djuice.co.nz (Ian W H) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] International network Message-ID: <3D2DDECC@mail.djuice.co.nz> begin Some guy was nearly kidnapped here this week but I'm not allowed to know his name. Our gagged press is at http://stuff.co.nz and our cautious net commentator is at http://aardvark.co.nz And he also posts links to the best register stories. Please do not post the name of the kidnap victim anywhere I can see it. Sorry, I still can't wrap my lines. From simm at zork.net Wed Jul 24 20:32:57 2002 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] International network In-Reply-To: <3D2DDECC@mail.djuice.co.nz> References: <3D2DDECC@mail.djuice.co.nz> Message-ID: <20020725033257.GE19802@zork.net> begin Ian W H quotation: > begin Some guy was nearly kidnapped here this week but I'm not > allowed to know his name. Our gagged press is at http://stuff.co.nz > and our cautious net commentator is at http://aardvark.co.nz And he > also posts links to the best register stories. Please do not post > the name of the kidnap victim anywhere I can see it. Sorry, I still > can't wrap my lines. "Police have not released the names of the suspects or their intended victim. " according to the AP. But don't worry, I'm doing fine. -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From robert at rmt.flow.com.au Wed Jul 24 22:42:12 2002 From: robert at rmt.flow.com.au (Robert Thomson) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] International network In-Reply-To: <3D2DDECC@mail.djuice.co.nz> References: <3D2DDECC@mail.djuice.co.nz> Message-ID: <20020725054212.GA24464@rmt.flow.com.au> Oh! I know! I know! --8<- My old boss from VWXYZ in NZ nearly got kidnapped on Monday. Very exciting, there were 3 guys who were going to put him in a bunker undergrand for ransom. It's getting quite popular in NZ now. The bunker was only 6 feet long though, and he's taller than that. I guess they were going to cut off his feet or something. -->8-- I then proceeded to ask his name.. I believe it's Ford Prefect. On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:25:16PM +1200, Ian W H uttered: > Some guy was nearly kidnapped here this week but > I'm not allowed to know his name. Our gagged press is at > http://stuff.co.nz and our cautious net commentator is at > http://aardvark.co.nz And he also posts links to the best > register stories. Please do not post the name of the kidnap > victim anywhere I can see it. Sorry, I still can't wrap my > lines. -- A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) From simm at zork.net Thu Jul 25 06:14:48 2002 From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] International network In-Reply-To: <3D2DDECC@mail.djuice.co.nz> References: <3D2DDECC@mail.djuice.co.nz> Message-ID: <20020725131448.GG19802@zork.net> begin Ian W H quotation: > begin Some guy was nearly kidnapped here this week but I'm not > allowed to know his name. Our gagged press is at http://stuff.co.nz > and our cautious net commentator is at http://aardvark.co.nz And he > also posts links to the best register stories. Please do not post > the name of the kidnap victim anywhere I can see it. Sorry, I still > can't wrap my lines. > Sir Ronald Trotter, a multi-millionaire retired construction company boss -- Simm Al-Aekrib | Optical Illusion Fun!! "I have a prodigious quantity of mind; | )----------( it takes me as much as a week | (----------) sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain | Which line is longer??? From sneakums at zork.net Thu Jul 25 06:58:12 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Ogg and chips, luv! and a cup of tea! Message-ID: <20020725135812.GD14777@zork.net> http://oggonachip.sourceforge.net/ -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From nick at zork.net Thu Jul 25 10:37:33 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020725173733.GF14299@zork.net> Now you're going to share your unique "gonzo" stylings with us, no? I can hardly wait. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- kpd@fearandloathing.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Jul 25 11:23:44 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:37:33 PDT." <20020725173733.GF14299@zork.net> References: <20020725173733.GF14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <200207251823.g6PINils004134@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:37:33 PDT, Nick Moffitt said: > Now you're going to share your unique "gonzo" stylings with us, no? I > can hardly wait. Please don't feed the Muppet^H^H^H^H^H^Htroll. From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Jul 25 11:46:45 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: References: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: At 21.51 +0200 02-07-21, Mikael Pawlo wrote: >At 12.55 -0400 02-07-20, Jay Sulzberger wrote: >>Mikael, which articles have you read? >(---) >>I may not have time to respond futher today on Crackmonkey, but perhaps >>in a week you may hear of the next panel and perhaps you will like the >>composition better. >A full week!? >Then I will personally inspect the CEO:s quarters. >Anyway, I wrote something on this to put my mind at ease. Here is a preview >of my first draft: >http://articles.pawlo.com/newsf06.html As it turns out, that text didn't do too well at the big Gnu test. I sent my draft to Stallman for a review before I sent it to Grant of Newsforge. However, I am pretty discouraged now (see below). I guess I should spend my time drinking beer instead of spending hours and hours again exploring Stallman thinking and advocating free software solutions. For the time beeing I am even annoyed enough to uns*bscribe from Crackmonkey, but I guess I am not yet wireless enough for such an effort. But not to worry, I only cry in the rain and it's not even cloudy in Stockholm tonight. /Mikael (aka GNU-troll) From: Richard Stallman To: mikael@pawlo.com Cc: moglen@columbia.edu Subject: Re: Community Opinion: In Pursuit of Mr Smith Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Your description of my actions and position are somewhat inaccurate and somewhat obnoxious. This has happened several times, so I think I'd be wasting my time going into details. _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From smcmahon at eiv.com Thu Jul 25 11:52:41 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: References: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020725185241.GA634@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Mikael Pawlo quotation: > > From: Richard Stallman > > Your description of my actions and position are somewhat inaccurate > and somewhat obnoxious. This has happened several times, so I think > I'd be wasting my time going into details. If it's not worth his time to give you the details, it's not worth your time to edit the article. Send as-is. If this bothers him, he can give you details next time. Or, not. It's a semi-free country. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj1ASPkACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt3YwwCgrmOCh9oCEo6WjbkFSdnAeQSb Kc4AoOUSNGfESXbJKb8UGN12xLZkvH8m =ELuV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Jul 25 12:01:02 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Old 1 Message-ID: You are probably already familiar with this one since long /insert DejaURL here, Nick/ but if you for any reason have not yet read the video clerk diaries you should: http://www.improvisation.ws/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4475 ...most probably a major motion pictures in two years, unfortunately starring Renee Zellweger. M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Thu Jul 25 12:06:57 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725173733.GF14299@zork.net> References: <20020725173733.GF14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020725190657.GB7462@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Nick Moffitt quotation: > Now you're going to share your unique "gonzo" stylings with us, no? I > can hardly wait. That's DOCTOR Gonzo to you! - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9QExOjLHcIq3dHxYRAn3yAKDGwjfCC1fLboIRsKHCCyZWuvfcPgCgqNEm b26i1Afg6biWyk+MhL9WYFI= =v2sX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 25 12:17:59 2002 From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (mwmiller@columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: References: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: <20020725191759.GA5560@columbus.rr.com> On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:46:45PM +0200, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > I sent my draft to Stallman for a review... >> From: Richard Stallman >> To: mikael@pawlo.com >> Cc: moglen@columbia.edu >> Subject: Re: Community Opinion: In Pursuit of Mr Smith >> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org >> Your description of my actions and position are somewhat inaccurate >> and somewhat obnoxious. And that description is unlike him how, exactly? -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Thu Jul 25 12:17:53 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:52:41 EDT." <20020725185241.GA634@eiv.com> References: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> <20020725185241.GA634@eiv.com> Message-ID: <200207251917.g6PJHrls004864@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:52:41 EDT, Shawn McMahon said: > If it's not worth his time to give you the details, it's not worth your > time to edit the article. Send as-is. If this bothers him, he can give > you details next time. Or, not. It's a semi-free country. Information wants to be free. From sneakums at zork.net Thu Jul 25 12:20:54 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <200207251917.g6PJHrls004864@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> <20020725185241.GA634@eiv.com> <200207251917.g6PJHrls004864@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020725192054.GF14777@zork.net> commence Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu quotation: > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:52:41 EDT, Shawn McMahon said: > > If it's not worth his time to give you the details, it's not worth your > > time to edit the article. Send as-is. If this bothers him, he can give > > you details next time. Or, not. It's a semi-free country. > > Information wants to be free. Once you factor in S&H and taxes, it's more like $6.95, though. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From kpd at fearandloathing.org Thu Jul 25 12:25:11 2002 From: kpd at fearandloathing.org (Kevin Downey) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725190657.GB7462@8ball.wox.org>; from hick0142@tc.umn.edu on Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 02:06:57PM -0500 References: <20020725173733.GF14299@zork.net> <20020725190657.GB7462@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: <20020725122510.A63370@zifnab.nexus.lan> Dr. Sock -- Take your dying with some seriousness, however. Laughing on the way to your execution is not generally understood by less advanced life forms, and they'll call you crazy. -- "Messiah's Handbook: Reminders for the Advanced Soul" From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Jul 25 12:43:30 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: References: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: <1027626210.8445.342.camel@zingiber> On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 11:46, Mikael Pawlo wrote: > >Anyway, I wrote something on this to put my mind at ease. Here is a preview > >of my first draft: > >http://articles.pawlo.com/newsf06.html > > As it turns out, that text didn't do too well at the big Gnu test. Dude, you said "intellectual property protection". Might as well try to fit in the rest of the words from http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html while you're at it. -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org Help spread accurate information http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Thu Jul 25 12:44:55 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <200207251917.g6PJHrls004864@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> <20020725185241.GA634@eiv.com> <200207251917.g6PJHrls004864@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020725194455.GC7462@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu quotation: > Information wants to be free. Actually, recent studies have shown that some particularly tightly-held information, such as the Coca-Cola reciple, has begun showing signs of Stockholm Syndrome. In fact, a squad of Marines was sent in to Coca-Cola headquarters recently to retrive the recipe, only to come back emptyhanded with heavy casualties. Reports from the squad members state that the recipe took the gun of a fallen security guard and started firing at it's rescuers. Another unfortunate example of this growing problem comes from Disney, Inc. It seems that the company's newly aquired duo of Lilo and Stitch attempted to flee the clutches of the company's vault, where most of the characters are stored. The duo had managed to sneak into the woods behind the heavily-armed Disney compound, only to be aprehended by none other than Mickey Mouse and Pluto, dressed in the garb of Disney's authoritarian security personnel and toting AK-47s. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9QFU1jLHcIq3dHxYRApdBAJ9ip+1/7eWVZ1cV0a49g14WMbGEBgCfaOtH Oo6n3gTVIJOApynB0ZDVe/E= =Gn/G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mikael at pawlo.com Thu Jul 25 12:52:49 2002 From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The CEO's shock troops storm Washington In-Reply-To: <1027626210.8445.342.camel@zingiber> References: <20020720165525.GA7958@panix.com> <1027014813.23043.24125.camel@amory> Message-ID: At 12.43 -0700 02-07-25, Don Marti wrote: >On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 11:46, Mikael Pawlo wrote: >> >Anyway, I wrote something on this to put my mind at ease. Here is a preview >> >of my first draft: >> >http://articles.pawlo.com/newsf06.html >> As it turns out, that text didn't do too well at the big Gnu test. >Dude, you said "intellectual property protection". Might as well try to >fit in the rest of the words from >http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html while you're at it. Wittgenstein is vastly overrated. Stallman should stop reading Tractatus and try to get people understand the issues instead. M _________________________________________________________________________ ICQ:35638414 mailto:mikael@pawlo.com +46-704-215825 http://www.pawlo.com/ From nick at zork.net Thu Jul 25 13:37:08 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] NO-PORN DAY Message-ID: <20020725203708.GI14299@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Gary Clemenceau ----- *************** AVW MEDIA ALERT ACMEVAPORWARE CALLS FOR INTERNATIONAL NO-PORN DAY AVW's Advanced Infrastructure Conservation Section Reveals Clandestine Global Plan for NO PORN DOWNLOADS ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2002 SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. -- July 22, 2002 -- AcmeVaporware (AVW) today called for Monday, September 23, 2002 to be INTERNATIONAL NO-PORN DAY. Beginning at midnight on this day, everyone in the world should cease and desist all porn downloads for 24 hours. This temporary porn-hiatus will enable global teams of crack network administrators to gauge the amount of data pressure porn places on their infrastructure -- facilitating better porn build-outs for the future. "70% of Internet traffic is PORN," said Dr. John Smallberries, AcmeVaporware's chairman and CEO, smoking a fat cigar while chasing doves and bunnies with an oil painting of Julie Andrews. "And since it's back-to-school time, and back-to-school means PORN, we gotta get all the data clogs out while we can. Besides, it's the Autumnal Equinox, too, so... hell, I dunno what that means. Anyway, ya got two months' notice. So, on that day, lay off the porn, you hogs." "We in the international community are extremely pleased that AcmeVaporware and Dr. Smallberries have taken this leadership position," said Kofi Annan, UN Secretary and well-known sysadmin frotteur/advocate. "To finally be able to watch Binka and Tutti LIVE without high-traffic porn clogs... I'll be able to tell whether that's a chicken or a grapefruit up there. Give me a hug, you beast." Mr. Annan then hugged several foreign attaches, though no formal charges were filed. "Huh? Go away. Can't you see I'm busy running the WAR?! Goddamn weirdoes," remarked Vice President Dick Cheney, pausing from his constant laughing and rolling around in hundreds of millions of hundred-dollar bills that litter his lavish supersecret bunker. When told that INTERNATIONAL NO-PORN DAY would facilitate faster porn downloads in the future, he and his corporate handlers all chanted, "PORN! Pornpornporn!" and dove into NORAD mainframes bursting with Swedish dwarf erotica. "This is a big day," commented George W. Bush from the Oval Office, airing out his 79 IQ by reading short sentences off of a plastic wristband. "America is strong. The economy is showing signs. Our children are bigger than ever." About AcmeVaporware AcmeVaporware, Inc. is a fairly monstrous malcontent powerhouse, providing uncompromising automatic ashtrays, physical layer mimetic transport solutions, and quasi-lexiconographical torpovapor supply-chain underpants simulations to anyone who will just HOLD STILL, dammit -- on a global scale that would make your grandma proud, PROUD of you, Timmy. You little bastard. Information on AcmeVaporware, its internecine technology prosthesis, and its future profligate amounts of purest, finest-quality phlogiston are mostly classified. Regardless, it's all on http://www.acmevaporware.com/ anyway, so whatever. -- AcmeVaporware is a registered trademark of AcmeVaporware, Inc. All rights reserved. Don't mess with us -- our Mecha-DAD can out-drink your Mecha-DAD. (c) 1997-2002 and beyond, AcmeVaporware Inc. Caveat per diem. Void where prohibited. Serving suggestion: serve cold with lard. ### ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Thu Jul 25 13:40:45 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> Get the fuck out of here, airborne. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Thu Jul 25 13:55:14 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [lettherebemonkeys@yahoo.com: [monkeywire] Monkey troupe rescue their orphan from police station] Message-ID: <20020725205514.GM14299@zork.net> Hooray for monkeywire! ----- Forwarded message from gregory nahas ----- Monkey troop rescue their orphan from police station Monkeys rescued an orphaned member of their troop from an Indian police station after its mother was shot dead. The female langur was feeding on a tree when an orchard owner brought her down with an airgun in Murshidabad. The man was arrested by police for shooting a protected species, but the baby wouldn't let go of its dead mother. Police took the body to their station, where the baby continued to suckle its mother. Officers allowed it to stay the night, but around 30 monkeys laid siege to the station - gathering outside and on the roof. Officers were surprised when some monkeys managed to sneak into the station and quietly take the baby away with them. Inspector Prabir Dutta told newspaper Pragati: "What we saw was absolutely touching. It was as if the monkeys had made up their minds to take charge of the orphan. One of the females in the group held it close to its chest and even offered its teats to be sucked. "The monkeys behaved in an exemplary fashion and impressed us with their show of solidarity. Human beings have a lot to learn from them." Later hundreds of local people carried the body of the monkey in a procession, chanting the name of Hindu monkey god Hanuman, before burying it on the banks of a river. The orchard owner Syed Raza, who was released on bail, said: "I feel terrible. I had no intention of killing the monkey. I was just trying to scare it away from the trees and the gun went off." Story filed: 10:25 Thursday 25th July 2002 http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_636617?menu=news.quirkies __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://www.monkeywire.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From cswingle at iarc.uaf.edu Thu Jul 25 14:26:45 2002 From: cswingle at iarc.uaf.edu (Christopher Swingley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> * Nick Moffitt [2002-Jul-25 12:40 AKDT]: > > ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- > > > > cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. > > Get the fuck out of here, airborne. Nice. Alaska Fairbanks, actually. -- Christopher S. Swingley phone: 907-474-2689 Computer Systems Manager email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu IARC -- Frontier Program GPG and PGP keys at my web page: University of Alaska Fairbanks www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Jul 25 14:33:13 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [lettherebemonkeys@yahoo.com: [monkeywire] Monkey troupe rescue their orphan from police station] In-Reply-To: <20020725205514.GM14299@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:55:14 -0700") References: <20020725205514.GM14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <87ptxbh4rq.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt writes: NM> "The monkeys behaved in an exemplary fashion and impressed us NM> with their show of solidarity. Human beings have a lot to NM> learn from them." These sound like no monkeys I know. NM> The orchard owner Syed Raza, who was released on bail, said: NM> "I feel terrible. I had no intention of killing the monkey. I NM> was just trying to scare it away from the trees and the gun NM> went off." Fucking LIAR! This is such an obvious lie. Monkeykiller! ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work like you're gonna get fired, dance like Hunter S. Thompson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Jul 25 14:34:32 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> (Christopher Swingley's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:26:45 -0800") References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> Message-ID: <87lm7zh4pj.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "CS" == Christopher Swingley writes: CS> Nice. Alaska Fairbanks, actually. We want nothing to do with your Australian infighting and ancient blood feuds! Learn to work together as a team, or you will never develop as a nation. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work like you're gonna get fired, dance like Hunter S. Thompson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Jul 25 14:44:57 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> Message-ID: <20020725214457.GO14299@zork.net> begin Christopher Swingley quotation: > Nice. Alaska Fairbanks, actually. I don't get that reference, probably because I don't know any porn starlets by name. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From sneakums at zork.net Thu Jul 25 15:00:03 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725214457.GO14299@zork.net> References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> <20020725214457.GO14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020725220003.GJ14777@zork.net> commence Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation: > begin Christopher Swingley quotation: > > Nice. Alaska Fairbanks, actually. > > I don't get that reference, probably because I don't know any > porn starlets by name. I hear Asia Carrera is quite the Monopoly player. This Alaska Fairbanks would not stand a chance. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Jul 25 15:40:41 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] NO-PORN DAY In-Reply-To: <20020725203708.GI14299@zork.net> References: <20020725203708.GI14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <1027636841.8396.423.camel@zingiber> On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 13:37, Nick Moffitt wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Gary Clemenceau ----- > > *************** > AVW MEDIA ALERT > > ACMEVAPORWARE CALLS FOR INTERNATIONAL NO-PORN DAY $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org Help spread accurate information http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. From dmarti at zgp.org Thu Jul 25 15:46:54 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725220003.GJ14777@zork.net> References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> <20020725214457.GO14299@zork.net> <20020725220003.GJ14777@zork.net> Message-ID: <1027637214.8396.427.camel@zingiber> On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 15:00, Sean Neakums wrote: > I hear Asia Carrera is quite the Monopoly player. This Alaska > Fairbanks would not stand a chance. Yes, and she even wrote a great page on how to make your own web site! http://www.asiacarrera.com/siteinfo.html -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org Help spread accurate information http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. From jspence at lightconsulting.com Thu Jul 25 19:52:38 2002 From: jspence at lightconsulting.com (Jason Spence) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725014256.GA14299@zork.net>; from monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org on Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 06:42:56PM -0700 References: <20020724225356.GB21344@zork.net> <20020724183633.C83868@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> <20020725014256.GA14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020725195238.A92401@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 06:42:56PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Jason Spence quotation: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 03:53:56PM -0700, Nick Moffitt said: > > > Fuck off. > > > > My, you've certainly been creative lately. > > Yes, fuck off. See what I mean? You need a vacation. -- - Jason An effective way to deal with predators is to taste terrible. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Thu Jul 25 20:01:11 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:40 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725195238.A92401@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> References: <20020724225356.GB21344@zork.net> <20020724183633.C83868@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> <20020725014256.GA14299@zork.net> <20020725195238.A92401@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> Message-ID: <20020726030111.GS14299@zork.net> begin Jason Spence quotation: > See what I mean? You need a vacation. Why haven't you fucked off yet? -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From mr.bad at pigdog.org Thu Jul 25 20:32:53 2002 From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020726030111.GS14299@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:01:11 -0700") References: <20020724225356.GB21344@zork.net> <20020724183633.C83868@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> <20020725014256.GA14299@zork.net> <20020725195238.A92401@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> <20020726030111.GS14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <877kjjmae2.fsf@tyrell.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> >>>>> "MMaPRoSF" == Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco writes: MMaPRoSF> Why haven't you fucked off yet? Three times's the charm. ~Mr. Bad -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr. Bad | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work like you're gonna get fired, dance like Hunter S. Thompson. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu Fri Jul 26 01:41:34 2002 From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Old 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020726084134.GA16484@8ball.wox.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 commence Mikael Pawlo quotation: > > You are probably already familiar with this one since long /insert DejaURL > here, Nick/ but if you for any reason have not yet read the video clerk > diaries you should: > http://www.improvisation.ws/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4475 Compare and contrast with this guy: http://www.spies.com/~gus/ran/0012/antiporn/index.html I especially like his stance on vampirism. Current laws are much too lax on the subject of immortal bloodsuckers. Luckily, he suggests keeping all prisoners out of sunlight, so incarcerating vampires might actually work. - -- Brian Hicks 'At Zango Transportation Concepts, our motto is "Caveat Emptor" which means "We hope you like it!"' -- Lambda Expressway -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9QQs8jLHcIq3dHxYRAkcsAKCmJdBtzR1nwoQOnMoDoiqc6BJyRQCgsmqT Y1oVVhTqKpbWv+23MeIo1lI= =+eX9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From brian at collab.net Thu Jul 25 18:48:31 2002 From: brian at collab.net (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play In-Reply-To: <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> Message-ID: <20020725184455.H400-100000@yez.hyperreal.org> On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Carlos Laviola wrote: > Thank you for forwarding Slashdot stories to the list! Not too many > people visit Slashdot on a daily basis. If you just can't get enough: slashdotnews-subscribe@hyperreal.org Brian From jason at sopko.net Fri Jul 26 10:35:01 2002 From: jason at sopko.net (Jason Sopko) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Be a Bad Person of The Future for only $10 Message-ID: <3D418845.6010000@sopko.net> Q: Why would they want to? A: That is the purpose of the fund. The simple answer is, we pay them to bring you into the future. http://www.timetravelfund.com I'm sold. ///Jason From junasts at subdimension.com Fri Jul 26 10:53:51 2002 From: junasts at subdimension.com (Last Judgement Samuel) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] More Aspect-Oriented Than Python Message-ID: <87adoev0i8.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Hey, so, check out ASPECT-ORIENTED SOFTWARE: http://aosd.net/ Perhaps you should be asking yourself: is my software aspect-oriented enough? Do ruby's syntactical structures support my aspect-oriented design process? Does my company perhaps need Last Judgement Samuel to come in as an obscenely high-paid harridan who will flitter about and yell at the developers that they're too dumb to truly understand the aspect paradigm? -- Last Judgement Samuel P.S. I'm starting a SourceForge project today for "aspecta," a language for aspect-oriented programming. It'll only make histograms, of course. -- +++ Last Judgement Samuel + junasts@subdimension.com + 0x8D3E92DE +++ *** Aspect-Oriented Software Guru *** From jays at panix.com Fri Jul 26 11:25:41 2002 From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] More Aspect-Oriented Than Python Message-ID: <20020726182541.GA5981@panix.com> On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 10:53:51AM -0700, Last Judgement Samuel wrote: > Hey, so, check out ASPECT-ORIENTED SOFTWARE: > > http://aosd.net/ > > Perhaps you should be asking yourself: is my software aspect-oriented > enough? Do ruby's syntactical structures support my aspect-oriented > design process? Does my company perhaps need Last Judgement Samuel to > come in as an obscenely high-paid harridan who will flitter about and > yell at the developers that they're too dumb to truly understand the > aspect paradigm? > > -- Last Judgement Samuel > > P.S. I'm starting a SourceForge project today for "aspecta," a > language for aspect-oriented programming. It'll only make histograms, > of course. Of course, just as with the "joke language" INTERCAL of thirty years ago, the features of such a language would, if widely adopted, tremendously improve the art and practice of programming. COME FROM is, of course, just a general exception mechanism, and Common Lisp indeed has a more powerful form of ABSTAIN. oo--JS. From carton at Ivy.NET Fri Jul 26 15:26:43 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> (Christopher Swingley's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:26:45 -0800") References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "cs" == Christopher Swingley writes: cs> Fairbanks Do you have to use an outhouse? I knew a guy from there, and he said in the winter his shit froze into a growing shit-pyramid until one day he sat down to take a crap and it POKED him in the ass! -- Le fascisme est la dictature ouverte de la bourgeoisie. -- Georg Dimitrov From joe at barrera.org Fri Jul 26 16:28:26 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> Message-ID: <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> Miles Nordin wrote: > Do you have to use an outhouse? I knew a guy from there, and he said > in the winter his shit froze into a growing shit-pyramid until one day > he sat down to take a crap and it POKED him in the ass! The moral(s) being: 1. Dig deeper 2. Look before sitting From henrik at enberg.org Fri Jul 26 16:43:07 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: (Miles Nordin's message of "26 Jul 2002 18:26:43 -0400") References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> Message-ID: <87lm7yukc4.fsf@enberg.org> Miles Nordin writes: > I knew a guy from there, and he said in the winter his shit froze into > a growing shit-pyramid until one day he sat down to take a crap and it > POKED him in the ass! Well, at least it's better than sitting on a shit-pile that has festered in hot weather for a week. I did that once in Denmark. Stay away from that horrid country. -- Yo mama's so poor, she has to take the trash IN. From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Fri Jul 26 16:53:01 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:26:43 EDT." References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> Message-ID: <200207262353.g6QNr12w012708@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:26:43 EDT, Miles Nordin said: > Do you have to use an outhouse? I knew a guy from there, and he said > in the winter his shit froze into a growing shit-pyramid until one day > he sat down to take a crap and it POKED him in the ass! At 30 below, it freezes on the ground. At 40 below, it freezes on the way down. At 50 below, you wait for 40 below. From dmarti at zgp.org Fri Jul 26 17:10:45 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> Message-ID: <1027728645.8445.747.camel@zingiber> On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 16:28, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Miles Nordin wrote: > > Do you have to use an outhouse? I knew a guy from there, and he said > > in the winter his shit froze into a growing shit-pyramid until one day > > he sat down to take a crap and it POKED him in the ass! > > The moral(s) being: > 1. Dig deeper > 2. Look before sitting You're assuming he didn't like it. -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org Help spread accurate information http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. From cswingle at iarc.uaf.edu Fri Jul 26 18:39:43 2002 From: cswingle at iarc.uaf.edu (Christopher Swingley) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> Message-ID: <20020727013943.GA21616@iarc.uaf.edu> * Joseph S. Barrera III [2002-Jul-26 15:28 AKDT]: > Miles Nordin wrote: > > Do you have to use an outhouse? I knew a guy from there, and he said > > in the winter his shit froze into a growing shit-pyramid until one day > > he sat down to take a crap and it POKED him in the ass! > > The moral(s) being: > 1. Dig deeper > 2. Look before sitting Yes indeed. Better than the shit-pyramid is the "piss pile" that can be generated by avoiding the outhouse altogether. Looks a lot like a stalagmite, except it's pretty smelly come spring time. I suppose the ladies could get poked by such an artifice, but I've never gotten one (a piss pile, not a lady) high enough to reach my member. Most folks have a stick in the outhouse that is used to knock down the shit-pyramid from time to time. In addition to Joe's morals, a third is: never install a plastic, wood or (heaven help you) metal seat in your outhouse. Folks have been known to freeze themselves to them much like a tongue on a flagpole. Even when your ass isn't sweaty enough to stick, it's damned cold. Insulating foam is the way to go. Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley phone: 907-474-2689 Computer Systems Manager email: cswingle@iarc.uaf.edu IARC -- Frontier Program GPG and PGP keys at my web page: University of Alaska Fairbanks www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle From asf at acm.org Sat Jul 27 07:00:46 2002 From: asf at acm.org (Andreas Fuchs) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Old 1 References: <20020726084134.GA16484@8ball.wox.org> Message-ID: On 2002-07-26, Overlord of Minnesota Protector of the Dakotas and Subjugator of Wisconsin wrote: > Compare and contrast with this guy: > > http://www.spies.com/~gus/ran/0012/antiporn/index.html > > I especially like his stance on vampirism. Current laws are much too > lax on the subject of immortal bloodsuckers. : | You know what Stuart, I like you. You're not like the other people, | here in this trailer park. > Luckily, he suggests keeping all prisoners out of sunlight, so > incarcerating vampires might actually work. He wants capital punishment for those, so having sunlight in their cells would actually be the cheapest solution. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Jul 27 15:18:27 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play In-Reply-To: <20020725184455.H400-100000@yez.hyperreal.org> References: <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> <20020725184455.H400-100000@yez.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20020727221827.GU14299@zork.net> begin Brian Behlendorf quotation: > If you just can't get enough: slashdotnews-subscribe@hyperreal.org The thing I love most about those qmail lists is that the URL to subscribe will be put up on the Crackmonkey archives now, and subsequently be hit by a kerbillion spammurz. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Sat Jul 27 15:20:40 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020727222040.GV14299@zork.net> The cretinous discussion of frozen shit has started to scare folks off. I'm not sure whether to encourage or discourage these threads. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- engberg@linux.nu has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Sat Jul 27 15:23:57 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] More Aspect-Oriented Than Python In-Reply-To: <87adoev0i8.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> References: <87adoev0i8.fsf@gaff.bad-people-of-the-future.san-francisco.ca.us> Message-ID: <20020727222357.GW14299@zork.net> begin Last Judgement Samuel quotation: > Hey, so, check out ASPECT-ORIENTED SOFTWARE: Shit. I was *so* going to do this troll in 1999! I was going to come up with another meaningless PROGRAMMING PARADIGM and get paid to go to conferences and shit. Like, SD Expo would fly me from SFO to San Jose airport on a private jet full of craps tables and loose women, and have me speak at their keynote! "Ladies and gentlemen, the originator of Abstractious Programming, Nick Moffitt!" -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Sat Jul 27 15:24:40 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] Message-ID: <20020727222440.GX14299@zork.net> I guess he's here for the Iceman Scat Pr0n. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- rmoyers@nop.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Sat Jul 27 16:16:39 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 26 July 2002] Message-ID: <20020727231639.GY14299@zork.net> Bruce Perens has quit Havenco. No action is required on your part. ----- Forwarded message from Owen Thomas ----- YOU CAN'T FIRE ME, I SUBMIT "I care more about this than getting myself fired, but the fact is that getting myself fired today would have hurt Hewlett-Packard's Linux program." Open-source guru Bruce Perens, on his courageous decision to keep drawing a paycheck instead of teaching conference- goers how to hack a DVD player, Wired News, 26 July 2002 http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,54168,00.html ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From ron at vnetworx.net Sat Jul 27 17:28:46 2002 From: ron at vnetworx.net (Subjugator of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror of Long Island) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Turnabout is fair play In-Reply-To: <20020727221827.GU14299@zork.net> References: <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> <20020725184455.H400-100000@yez.hyperreal.org> <20020727221827.GU14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <1027816127.24968.145925.camel@amory> On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 18:18, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin Brian Behlendorf quotation: > > If you just can't get enough: slashdotnews-subscribe@hyperreal.org > > The thing I love most about those qmail lists is that the URL > to subscribe will be put up on the Crackmonkey archives now, and > subsequently be hit by a kerbillion spammurz. The worst part for them will be making those tough calls between which items are spam, and which are just /. drivel. -- Is this one flotsam or jetsam? From henrik at enberg.org Sat Jul 27 17:43:57 2002 From: henrik at enberg.org (Henrik Enberg) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: Turnabout is fair play In-Reply-To: <1027816127.24968.145925.camel@amory> (Subjugator "of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror "of Long Island's message of "27 Jul 2002 20:28:46 -0400") References: <20020723224538.GA821@alternex.com.br> <20020725184455.H400-100000@yez.hyperreal.org> <20020727221827.GU14299@zork.net> <1027816127.24968.145925.camel@amory> Message-ID: <87r8ho8ywi.fsf@enberg.org> Subjugator "of Pt. Jeff & Conqueror "of Long Island writes: > The worst part for them will be making those tough calls between which > items are spam, and which are just /. drivel. Spam isn't mispelled quite as much. -- Yo mama's so stupid, she sold the house to pay the mortgage. From jv at zork.net Sat Jul 27 19:21:22 2002 From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [nick@zork.net: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 26 July 2002]] Message-ID: <20020728022121.GA19424@zork.net> ----- Forwarded message from Nick Moffitt ----- Bruce Perens: "I care more about this than getting myself fired, but the fact is that getting myself fired today would have hurt Hewlett-Packard's Linux program." ----- End forwarded message ----- From carton at Ivy.NET Sat Jul 27 06:51:38 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> (Joseph S. Barrera III's message of "Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:28:26 -0700") References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "jsb" == Joseph S Barrera writes: jsb> Organization: Rose Garden Funeral of Sores I hope you are not refering to that nasty anime with the lesbians who strip naked and transform into motorcycles, hop onto each other, and ride their way to freedom. because it sucked. jsb> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0 -1214711651 What's this -1214711651? It looks kind of...PROPRIETARY...to me. What are you trying to pull, Barrera? -- ``The future is like walking down some unlit corridor, and it gets darker and darker as you move into it.'' -- Jack Valenti From carton at Ivy.NET Sat Jul 27 06:47:09 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <20020727013943.GA21616@iarc.uaf.edu> (Christopher Swingley's message of "Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:39:43 -0800") References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> <20020727013943.GA21616@iarc.uaf.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "cs" == Christopher Swingley writes: cs> Most folks have a stick in the outhouse that is used to knock cs> down the shit-pyramid from time to time. yes! yes! my TA also mentioned this shitstick of which you speak. well, this other guy was really cool, and Lo was part-eskimo, so I say WELCOME to the Alaskan, even if he is an unwashed paravan slashdot troll. cs> Insulating foam is the [only practical ass-upholstery]. good to know. -- It could turn into an online civil war! Office Space meets Dune! All IT professionals must bear the mark of Imperial Conditioning - an MCSE. -- Anne Marie From carton at Ivy.NET Sat Jul 27 06:53:53 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] In-Reply-To: <87lm7yukc4.fsf@enberg.org> (Henrik Enberg's message of "Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:43:07 +0200") References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> <87lm7yukc4.fsf@enberg.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "he" == Henrik Enberg writes: he> Denmark. Stay away from that horrid country. surely you're joking, Mr. Enberg. Everyone knows that all the sweetest ass comes from Denmark. -- TCPA: Tricky Corporate Profit-minded Ass-kissing -- Plasma Studii From joe at barrera.org Sat Jul 27 22:23:55 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification] References: <20020725204045.GK14299@zork.net> <20020725212645.GC10068@iarc.uaf.edu> <3D41DB1A.1030905@barrera.org> Message-ID: <3D437FEB.7050706@barrera.org> Miles Nordin wrote: >>>>>>"jsb" == Joseph S Barrera writes: > > jsb> Organization: Rose Garden Funeral of Sores > > I hope you are not refering to that nasty anime with the lesbians who > strip naked and transform into motorcycles, hop onto each other, and > ride their way to freedom. because it sucked. Nah, it's just a John Cale / Bauhaus reference. But... was the leader of the motorcycle gang named Fatora? And her bitch named Alielle? Because if so, then I'd gladly buy that anime from you, if you still have it. > jsb> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0 -1214711651 > > What's this -1214711651? It looks kind of...PROPRIETARY...to me. Oh, that's just a Java String hashCode() encoding an alternate value of the User-Agent header. Doesn't your version of Mutt do that? > What are you trying to pull, Barrera? Sorry, officer, I guess I wasn't really aware of how fast I was going. Really? No, I had no idea I could have been going that fast. - Joe From smcmahon at eiv.com Sun Jul 28 05:50:11 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] In-Reply-To: <20020727222040.GV14299@zork.net> References: <20020727222040.GV14299@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020728125011.GA8946@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > The cretinous discussion of frozen shit has started to scare folks > off. I'm not sure whether to encourage or discourage these threads. Do both; then, when you figure out which one was better, claim Mr. Bad faked the other emails. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj1D6IMACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt1/DACfe741DsDbE9aF9WOcSMiwIyxC EOsAn1k1E7cMsvnnVJMsTd8TDvw3XVG6 =Vj9j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nick at zork.net Sun Jul 28 21:19:07 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FINNISH WAR WALKERS Message-ID: <20020729041907.GA5401@zork.net> http://www.plustech.fi/Walking1.html 2001 by stanley lukas is HERE! Get out your sandman blasters and fight the vicious orkos that will come at you through the cybermatricks! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From smcmahon at eiv.com Mon Jul 29 08:38:43 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FINNISH WAR WALKERS In-Reply-To: <20020729041907.GA5401@zork.net> References: <20020729041907.GA5401@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020729153843.GA13823@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > http://www.plustech.fi/Walking1.html Arrr, it's steppin' on me nuts? - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj1FYYIACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt2+GACdGT9E/epbARw5CNCrZsBQDiRv FjgAn0y/VLawhaHgkNjwQ5Opzc73zFmn =1RX1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dmarti at zgp.org Mon Jul 29 10:20:36 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Arrr! Artistic Immortality...or instant doubt? Message-ID: <1027963236.12215.74.camel@zingiber> "If any user realizes that what they have read is different from what the software really does, they will instantly start to doubt all of the documentation." http://linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6240 -- Don Marti dmarti@zgp.org Help spread accurate information http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. From squinky at dasbistro.com Mon Jul 29 12:42:08 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FINNISH WAR WALKERS In-Reply-To: <20020729153843.GA13823@eiv.com> References: <20020729041907.GA5401@zork.net> <20020729153843.GA13823@eiv.com> Message-ID: <20020729194208.GA6320@dasbistro.com> On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 11:38:43AM -0400, Shawn McMahon wrote: > begin Nick Moffitt quotation: > > http://www.plustech.fi/Walking1.html > > Arrr, it's steppin' on me nuts? No, no, NO! We're talking about a FINNISH ROBOT with a FUCKING CHAINSAW for an arm! You were given ample material. In the future, I suggest you give it a little more effort before you hit 'send.' From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 29 20:14:42 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Goddamn them all Message-ID: <20020730031442.GY16296@zork.net> http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-946890.html > Biden's new bill would make it a federal felony to try and trick > certain types of devices into playing your music or running your > computer program. Breaking this law--even if it's to share music by > your own garage band--could land you in prison for up to five years. > And that's not counting the civil penalties of up to $25,000 per > offense. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From nick at zork.net Mon Jul 29 23:58:42 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification] Message-ID: <20020730065842.GB16296@zork.net> uh, yeah. ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net ----- james@vandenberg.dropbear.id.au has been removed from CrackMonkey. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From carton at Ivy.NET Mon Jul 29 17:00:10 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 26 July 2002] In-Reply-To: <20020727231639.GY14299@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of "Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:16:39 -0700") References: <20020727231639.GY14299@zork.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "mm" == Nick Moffitt writes: mm> Bruce Perens has quit Havenco. I will see this rat bastard speak at the Tischman Auditorium in the New School, 66 W 21th St, NYC at 2002-08-21 18:30. There, he will confront esr with his betrayal. Perhaps he will be swayed more easily in this forum. After three and a half hours on the train through FUCKING JERSEY, I will expect this weasely ``Perens'' lackey to breathe fire and talk like Max Demian. ``Join us, or DIE!'' -- It could turn into an online civil war! Office Space meets Dune! All IT professionals must bear the mark of Imperial Conditioning - an MCSE. -- Anne Marie From nick at zork.net Tue Jul 30 09:23:15 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] prophetic 2001 onion article Message-ID: <20020730162315.GF16296@zork.net> http://www.theonion.com/onion3701/bush_nightmare.html > "My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the > end of the dark period in American history that will come to be > known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by > unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and > sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that > behind us." 18 January 2001. Got a lot of it right! > During the 40-minute speech, Bush also promised to bring an end to > the severe war drought that plagued the nation under Clinton, > assuring citizens that the U.S. will engage in at least one Gulf > War-level armed conflict in the next four years. > > "You better believe we're going to mix it up with somebody at some > point during my administration," said Bush, who plans a 250 percent > boost in military spending. "Unlike my predecessor, I am fully > committed to putting soldiers in battle situations. Otherwise, what > is the point of even having a military?" -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From squinky at dasbistro.com Tue Jul 30 11:15:07 2002 From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Goddamn them all In-Reply-To: <20020730031442.GY16296@zork.net> References: <20020730031442.GY16296@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020730181506.GB3439@dasbistro.com> On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:14:42PM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote: > http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-946890.html > > Biden's new bill would make it a federal felony to try and trick > > certain types of devices into playing your music or running your > > computer program. Breaking this law--even if it's to share music by > > your own garage band--could land you in prison for up to five years. > > And that's not counting the civil penalties of up to $25,000 per > > offense. Maybe they want to see this get violent. From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com Tue Jul 30 14:35:45 2002 From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (mwmiller@columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 05:42:27PM -0700, Katherine Merle Mason wrote: > Hey, that's cool! I need a crackmonkey code to add to my geek code > block now. CrackMonkey What is CrackMonkey? It is a monkey that is smoking crack, you silly person. CM+++ I am Nick Moffitt. CM++ I am a charter member of the CrackMonkey list. CM+ I am a gnus user. CM I am a mutt (or elm) user. CM- I am an Outlook (or Outlook Express or Eudora or pine) user, but I'm industrious enough to make my mailreader pretend to be something decent. CM-- I am Justin Soze. CM--- I am the CEO of Brooklyn. Feel free to use this if it makes you happy. Oh yeah: CM++++ I am Emad as you are Emad as we are Emad and we are all Emad together. -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com From carton at Ivy.NET Tue Jul 30 15:07:43 2002 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> (mwmiller@columbus.rr.com's message of "Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:35:45 -0400") References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "m" == mwmiller writes: m> CM--- I am the CEO of Brooklyn. dude. you totally don't know what you're talking about. -- Le fascisme est la dictature ouverte de la bourgeoisie. -- Georg Dimitrov From mwmiller at columbus.rr.com Tue Jul 30 16:36:46 2002 From: mwmiller at columbus.rr.com (mwmiller@columbus.rr.com) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 06:07:43PM -0400, Miles Nordin wrote: > >>>>> "m" == mwmiller writes: > m> CM--- I am the CEO of Brooklyn. > dude. you totally don't know what you're talking about. Hey man, I just figure that if he ever turns his filter off, his children in Wisconcin will see the list and want him to have a score of his very own. After all, he's the CEO of Brooklyn. -- Matthew W. Miller -- mwmiller@columbus.rr.com From jeremym at loonix.org Tue Jul 30 16:58:12 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> On Tue Jul 30, 2002 at 07:36:46PM -0400, mwmiller@columbus.rr.com wrote: > Hey man, I just figure that if he ever turns his filter off, his > children in Wisconcin will see the list and want him to have a score of > his very own. After all, he's the CEO of Brooklyn. He was removed months ago. Get with the program, pal. -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From mark at symonds.net Tue Jul 30 18:26:45 2002 From: mark at symonds.net (Mark Symonds) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20020731012645.GD5878@symonds.net> On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 05:35:45PM -0400, mwmiller@columbus.rr.com wrote: [...] > decent. > CM-- I am Justin Soze. > CM--- I am the CEO of Brooklyn. > > Feel free to use this if it makes you happy. > Sure, CM--------------------------------------------- I am Matthew W. Miller. -- Mark ARRRR!! It's drivin' me nuts!! --Benjamin Franklin From dep at linuxandmain.com Tue Jul 30 20:14:30 2002 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] first british invasion of american television humor Message-ID: <200207302314.30249.dep@linuxandmain.com> really. and on prodigy, no less: http://pages.prodigy.net/achimes/1TW01a.htm -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From jdub at perkypants.org Tue Jul 30 20:15:09 2002 From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> > He was removed months ago. Get with the program, pal. "programme" - Jeff -- "Not only that, but Google is fast. In fact, it's quite competitive with DNS." - Raph Levien From andy at strugglers.net Tue Jul 30 21:15:42 2002 From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <20020731041542.GW30366@lug.org.uk> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:15:09PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > He was removed months ago. Get with the program, pal. > > "programme" In American English, the two are synonyms for each other (all usages). In British English, they're not. -- "All artists are willing to suffer for their art. So few are willing to learn to draw." -- The League Against Tedium From joe at barrera.org Tue Jul 30 21:16:10 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> Message-ID: <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> Jeff Waugh wrote: > "programme" I thought the use of Canadianian was frowned upon on this list. - Joe From pgl at yoyo.org Wed Jul 31 02:02:54 2002 From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> Message-ID: <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> On Jul 31, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Jeff Waugh wrote: > >"programme" > > I thought the use of Canadianian was frowned upon on this list. It should be perfectly acceptable to use Canadianians for any purpose you like, on or off this list. -- The Czech Republic: Home of the world's finest beer. Litres drunk by Czechs so far this year: 950077649.29 http://prague.tv/toys/beer/ From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Wed Jul 31 11:57:14 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:02:54 BST." <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:02:54 BST, Peter Lowe said: > It should be perfectly acceptable to use Canadianians for any purpose > you like, on or off this list. If you find a purpose that they're actually *useful* for, let us know. From smcmahon at eiv.com Wed Jul 31 12:22:45 2002 From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:41 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 begin Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu quotation: > > If you find a purpose that they're actually *useful* for, let us know. Pig food. - -- Shawn McMahon | Help spread accurate information AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv |about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. Scientology on your web site. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj1IOQUACgkQEcl9bQ0RMt3IAQCg9y5Zp9m4t09TQEFhlIo0w0H2 wPQAoOxshNWtEc829+V6XxhmWuczyKU9 =zBpr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Wed Jul 31 12:44:00 2002 From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:22:45 EDT." <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> References: <20020705092633.A8194@dwerryhouse.com.au> <200207050042.RAA23754@fraser.sfu.ca> <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> Message-ID: <200207311944.g6VJi0CM015214@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:22:45 EDT, Shawn McMahon said: > > If you find a purpose that they're actually *useful* for, let us know. > Pig food. Ahh... that's only once they're *EX*-Canadianians. Pigs don't usually have much hunting instinct - and if they did, they'd prefer more of a challenge. From jeremym at loonix.org Wed Jul 31 13:04:58 2002 From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <200207311944.g6VJi0CM015214@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <20020730213545.GA2988@columbus.rr.com> <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> <200207311944.g6VJi0CM015214@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20020731200457.GI30509@pug.chroot.net> On Wed Jul 31, 2002 at 03:44:00PM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:22:45 EDT, Shawn McMahon said: > > > If you find a purpose that they're actually *useful* for, let us know. > > Pig food. > Ahh... that's only once they're *EX*-Canadianians. Pigs don't usually have > much hunting instinct - and if they did, they'd prefer more of a challenge. You've never read _Hannibal_, have you? -- Jeremy McLeod jeremym@loonix.org From dtype at dtype.org Wed Jul 31 14:07:50 2002 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior Message-ID: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> I was having an odd day already, but this helped... The lady in front of me at my local friendly McDonald's ordered a cheeseburger, with no _meat_. I can concede that perhaps one might be in the mood for a cheese sandwich, but is McDonald's really the right choice for that kind of cuisine? Maybe this woman had a hankering for that yellow wax flavor. Maybe those low low prices just lured her in. Dunno. -drew -- M. Drew Streib Independent Rambler, Software/Standards/Freedom/Law -- http://dtype.org/ From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Jul 31 14:19:04 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020731200457.GI30509@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> <200207311944.g6VJi0CM015214@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731200457.GI30509@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020731211904.GD18755@zgp.org> begin Jeremy McLeod quotation of Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 04:04:58PM -0400: > You've never read _Hannibal_, have you? _Battlefield Earth_ was better. "The Man Animal is hungry." -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From holo at www.beadpainter.org Wed Jul 31 14:28:24 2002 From: holo at www.beadpainter.org (Holo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020731200457.GI30509@pug.chroot.net> References: <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> <200207311944.g6VJi0CM015214@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731200457.GI30509@pug.chroot.net> Message-ID: <20020731212846.GA27748@www.beadpainter.org> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 04:04:58PM -0400, Jeremy McLeod wrote: > > You've never read _Hannibal_, have you? > Is this about the guy who invaded Rome with elephants? -- rh From pawal at blipp.com Wed Jul 31 14:31:09 2002 From: pawal at blipp.com (Patrik Wallstrom) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020731212846.GA27748@www.beadpainter.org> References: <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> <200207311944.g6VJi0CM015214@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731200457.GI30509@pug.chroot.net> <20020731212846.GA27748@www.beadpainter.org> Message-ID: <20020731213109.GG18030@vic20.blipp.com> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Holo wrote: > > You've never read _Hannibal_, have you? > > Is this about the guy who invaded Rome with elephants? If that's the case, I think the followup Hastrubal would be a much better movie. -- patrik_wallstrom->foodfight->pawal@blipp.com->+46-709580442 From sneakums at zork.net Wed Jul 31 14:32:31 2002 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org In-Reply-To: <20020731212846.GA27748@www.beadpainter.org> References: <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> <200207311944.g6VJi0CM015214@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731200457.GI30509@pug.chroot.net> <20020731212846.GA27748@www.beadpainter.org> Message-ID: <20020731213231.GA1046@zork.net> commence Holo quotation: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 04:04:58PM -0400, Jeremy McLeod wrote: > > > > You've never read _Hannibal_, have you? > > > > Is this about the guy who invaded Rome with elephants? No, it's an A-Team fanfic. -- / | [|] Sean Neakums | Questions are a burden to others; [|] | answers a prison for oneself. \ | From dmarti at zgp.org Wed Jul 31 14:36:39 2002 From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior In-Reply-To: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> References: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20020731213639.GF18755@zgp.org> begin M. Drew Streib quotation of Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 09:07:50PM +0000: > I can concede that perhaps one might be in the mood for a cheese > sandwich, but is McDonald's really the right choice for that kind > of cuisine? Damn, dude, could you at least _try_ to read the de.alt.fan.fastfood FAQ before posting? The signal-to-noise ratio on this list is for shit. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/de/food/fastfood-faq/ -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti Help spread accurate information dmarti@zgp.org about Xenu and the Church of Scientology. KG6INA Scientology on your web site. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 31 14:46:12 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior In-Reply-To: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> References: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20020731214612.GB16296@zork.net> begin M. Drew Streib quotation: > I was having an odd day already, but this helped... > > The lady in front of me at my local friendly McDonald's ordered a > cheeseburger, with no _meat_. You go to McDonald's, then. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From dtype at dtype.org Wed Jul 31 14:50:47 2002 From: dtype at dtype.org (M. Drew Streib) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior In-Reply-To: <20020731213639.GF18755@zgp.org> References: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> <20020731213639.GF18755@zgp.org> Message-ID: <20020731215047.GH28816@dtype.org> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:36:39PM -0700, Don Marti wrote: > Damn, dude, could you at least _try_ to read the de.alt.fan.fastfood > FAQ before posting? The signal-to-noise ratio on this list is > for shit. > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/de/food/fastfood-faq/ All I learned is that if you sit down at a McDonalds in Germany, you get charged 16% VAT, versus only 7% if you take it in your paper bag. That might explain why every McDonalds I went to in Germany just handed my food to me in a bag. -drew -- M. Drew Streib Independent Rambler, Software/Standards/Freedom/Law -- http://dtype.org/ From vipvop-cm at musesick.org Wed Jul 31 14:58:22 2002 From: vipvop-cm at musesick.org (MC MeatFlaps) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior In-Reply-To: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> References: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> Message-ID: <20020731215822.GA25535@gregh> > The lady in front of me at my local friendly McDonald's ordered > a cheeseburger, with no _meat_. > > Maybe this woman had a hankering for that yellow wax flavor. Maybe > those low low prices just lured her in. Dunno. And she won't even get the really low prices if she orders it with no meat (you can't get one for $0.39 if you ask for it special). -Greg From joe at barrera.org Wed Jul 31 15:13:05 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] .org References: <20020730233646.GA3108@columbus.rr.com> <20020730235812.GA18866@pug.chroot.net> <20020731031509.GF26321@perkypants.org> <3D47648A.2030504@barrera.org> <20020731090254.GA29374@yoyo.org> <200207311857.g6VIvECM014646@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731192245.GA24520@eiv.com> <200207311944.g6VJi0CM015214@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20020731200457.GI30509@pug.chroot.net> <20020731211904.GD18755@zgp.org> Message-ID: <3D4860F1.1020300@barrera.org> Don Marti wrote: > _Battlefield Earth_ was better. > > "The Man Animal is hungry." I'm going to build my next house out of remaindered paperback copies of _Battlefield Earth_. They produce super-efficient airtight walls with insulation values up to R-32 and can resist tornado- and hurricane-force winds up to 150 mph. Of great importance to those of us in San Bruno and Pacifica and the coastal Peninsula. - Joe -- d. boon died for your sins From dep at linuxandmain.com Wed Jul 31 15:16:44 2002 From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior In-Reply-To: <20020731213639.GF18755@zgp.org> References: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> <20020731213639.GF18755@zgp.org> Message-ID: <200207311816.44908.dep@linuxandmain.com> begin Don Marti's quote: | Damn, dude, could you at least _try_ to read the | de.alt.fan.fastfood FAQ before posting? The signal-to-noise ratio | on this list is for shit. | | http://www.faqs.org/faqs/de/food/fastfood-faq/ yes, but it is so much more meaningful here: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.faqs.org/faqs/de/food/fastfood-faq/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfaqs.org%2Bfastfood-faq%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3Dutf-8 -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 31 15:20:18 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior In-Reply-To: <200207311816.44908.dep@linuxandmain.com> References: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> <20020731213639.GF18755@zgp.org> <200207311816.44908.dep@linuxandmain.com> Message-ID: <20020731222018.GC16296@zork.net> begin dep quotation: > begin Don Marti's quote: > | http://www.faqs.org/faqs/de/food/fastfood-faq/ > > yes, but it is so much more meaningful here: > > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.faqs.org/faqs/de/food/fastfood-faq/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfaqs.org%2Bfastfood-faq%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3Dutf-8 [ 3.5 ] F: And now? War's already? A: Jep. -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From holo at www.beadpainter.org Wed Jul 31 15:31:44 2002 From: holo at www.beadpainter.org (Holo) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior In-Reply-To: <20020731222018.GC16296@zork.net> References: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> <20020731213639.GF18755@zgp.org> <200207311816.44908.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20020731222018.GC16296@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020731223106.GA28412@www.beadpainter.org> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:20:18PM -0700, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote: > begin dep quotation: > > begin Don Marti's quote: > > | http://www.faqs.org/faqs/de/food/fastfood-faq/ > > > > yes, but it is so much more meaningful here: > > > > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.faqs.org/faqs/de/food/fastfood-faq/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfaqs.org%2Bfastfood-faq%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3Dutf-8 > > [ 3.5 ] F: And now? War's already? A: Jep. > [ 1.2 ] F: Haeh? A: That was the short form for "arrives drauf, over it can one eternally discuss, comes however nevertheless on no green branch, zumindst into dafff not, and therefore this topic does not nervt actually rather, wenn's concrete or new things to the comparison gives". *twitch* My brain core-dumped at [ 1.3 ]! How did you manage to reach [ 3.5 ]?? -- rh From joe at barrera.org Wed Jul 31 15:58:41 2002 From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] strange mcdonald's behavior References: <20020731210750.GG28816@dtype.org> <20020731213639.GF18755@zgp.org> <200207311816.44908.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20020731222018.GC16296@zork.net> <20020731223106.GA28412@www.beadpainter.org> Message-ID: <3D486BA1.4030307@barrera.org> > *twitch* My brain core-dumped at [ 1.3 ]! How did you manage to reach > [ 3.5 ]?? Just quadruple the #define'd buffer sizes, recompile, and you're good. - Joe -- d. boon died for your sins From nick at zork.net Wed Jul 31 22:34:17 2002 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Think of the CHILDREN! Message-ID: <20020801053417.GE16296@zork.net> http://chronicle.com/free/v48/i47/47b00701.htm > Others come from the perspective of religious freedom and > conservative values. They want parents and teachers to have the > right and ability to edit digital material they deem offensive, even > if the DMCA prevents the use of the technologies required to alter > the work. The DMCA and its ilk prevent parents from being able to provide appropriate content for their children! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston") From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Wed Jul 31 22:38:06 2002 From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco) Date: Fri Jul 8 18:56:42 2005 Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Think of the CHILDREN! In-Reply-To: <20020801053417.GE16296@zork.net> References: <20020801053417.GE16296@zork.net> Message-ID: <20020801053806.GF16296@zork.net> Oh yeah, and these anti-circumvention laws are plainly anti-semitic! It is a time-honored tradition for every Jewish baby boy! -- Jack Valenti is to the American film viewer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. -- http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm (search for "Boston")