From brian at 8ball.wox.org  Sun Dec  1 05:14:26 2002
From: brian at 8ball.wox.org (Brian Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:44 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
Message-ID: <20021201131426.GA2214@8ball.wox.org>

In honor of Mailman Day, here's a joke:

One day a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel
attached to his crotch. So the bartender says to him,
"You know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?"

And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!"




From unknown at panax.com  Sun Dec  1 08:10:58 2002
From: unknown at panax.com (Patrick McFarland)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:44 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <20021201131426.GA2214@8ball.wox.org>
References: <20021201131426.GA2214@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <20021201161058.GC1228@panax.com>

On 01-Dec-2002, Brian Hicks wrote:
> In honor of Mailman Day, here's a joke:
> 
> One day a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel
> attached to his crotch. So the bartender says to him,
> "You know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?"
> 
> And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!"


What is Mailman Day? Seems suckdot doesnt have a news entry for it.
(Must not be 31337 enough.)

Oh yeah, and arr matey!
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2000/06/14pirates.html

-- 
Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd 
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989


From jdub at perkypants.org  Sun Dec  1 08:14:48 2002
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:44 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <20021201161058.GC1228@panax.com>
References: <20021201131426.GA2214@8ball.wox.org> <20021201161058.GC1228@panax.com>
Message-ID: <20021201161448.GX22853@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>

<quote who="Patrick McFarland">

> > And the pirate says, "Aaar, its driving me nuts!"
> 
> What is Mailman Day?

You do not belong here.

- Jeff

-- 
                Patches are like Free Software love letters.                


From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec  1 09:19:06 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:44 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021201171906.GN29351@zork.net>

HAPPY MAILMAN DAY YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

spud@goldenspud.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From ivo at o2w.nl  Sun Dec  1 14:39:21 2002
From: ivo at o2w.nl (Ivo Timmermans)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:44 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021201171906.GN29351@zork.net>
References: <20021201171906.GN29351@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021201223921.GB9520@juarez>

Nick Moffitt wrote:
> HAPPY MAILMAN DAY YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE

I think he got fed up with the usual pirate jokes.  Maybe it's time
for a new one?

http://www.askmen.com/jokes/2001_jan/january24.html


	Ivo

-- 
... a Perl module would prefer that you stayed out of its living room
because you weren't invited, not because it has a shotgun.
	- Programming Perl, O'Reilly


From mikael at pawlo.com  Sun Dec  1 14:49:35 2002
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
 unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021201223921.GB9520@juarez>
References: <20021201171906.GN29351@zork.net>
 <20021201171906.GN29351@zork.net>
Message-ID: <v03007817ba104272bf4f@[10.0.1.2]>

At 23.39 +0100 02-12-01, Ivo Timmermans wrote:
>Nick Moffitt wrote:
>> HAPPY MAILMAN DAY YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE
>I think he got fed up with the usual pirate jokes.

Me too, its driving me nuts!

M


_________________________________________________________________________

  ICQ:35638414                              mailto:mikael@pawlo.com
  +46-704-215825                              http://www.pawlo.com/




From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Sun Dec  1 15:00:41 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] No, that's Information Adjustments...
In-Reply-To: <1038454043.3de58d1b633a1@mail.spamcop.net>
References: <20021128014635.GG29351@zork.net> <1038454043.3de58d1b633a1@mail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <20021201230041.GQ29351@zork.net>

begin  Bob Bernstein  quotation:
> Quoting Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>:
> 
> > http://www.darpa.mil/iao/index.htm
>  
> > 	Anybody wants the divx for the gilliam fillum, just mail me
> > off-list.
> 
> Ok, I'll bite: what's the connection 'twixt the one and t'other?

	Instead of the Ministry of {Love,Truth,etc}, Brazil had these
faceless bureaucratic offices named things like "Information Retrieval"
or "Information Assessment".

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Sun Dec  1 15:19:25 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Citizen Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021201223921.GB9520@juarez>
References: <20021201171906.GN29351@zork.net> <20021201223921.GB9520@juarez>
Message-ID: <20021201231925.GA2899@8ball.wox.org>

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commence  Ivo Timmermans  quotation:
> Nick Moffitt wrote:
> > HAPPY MAILMAN DAY YOU UNGRATEFUL SWINE
> 
> I think he got fed up with the usual pirate jokes.  Maybe it's time
> for a new one?
> 
> http://www.askmen.com/jokes/2001_jan/january24.html

Except that joke's even worse and even older.

Do you know how much work I'd have to go through to change the script?
Very little, but that's beside the point!

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From mvw at wave.co.nz  Sun Dec  1 17:34:23 2002
From: mvw at wave.co.nz (Mark van Walraven)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021201231925.GA2899@8ball.wox.org>; from hick0142@tc.umn.edu on Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 05:19:25PM -0600
References: <20021201171906.GN29351@zork.net> <20021201223921.GB9520@juarez> <20021201231925.GA2899@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <20021202143423.A22194@wave.co.nz>

On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 05:19:25PM -0600, Citizen Hicks wrote:
> Do you know how much work I'd have to go through to change the script?
> Very little, but that's beside the point!

I'm profoundly disappointed that you aren't doing it manually.  You might
just as well put the joke the template.  Now all the meaning has gone out
of mailman day.

Mark.


From montaigne at att.net  Sun Dec  1 21:12:41 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <20021201161448.GX22853@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
References: <20021201131426.GA2214@8ball.wox.org> <20021201161058.GC1228@panax.com> <20021201161448.GX22853@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
Message-ID: <20021202051241.GB574@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 03:14:48AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:

> You do not belong here.

You belong up your ass where your head is. Who the fuck died and left you
arbiter of who "belongs" where? Fuck you and your silly ass opinions.

ha ha Jeffy.

-- 
montaigne


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Sun Dec  1 13:27:14 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <20021202051241.GB574@localhost.localdomain> (Michel de
 Montaigne's message of "Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:12:41 -0500")
References: <20021201131426.GA2214@8ball.wox.org>
	<20021201161058.GC1228@panax.com>
	<20021201161448.GX22853@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
	<20021202051241.GB574@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <87ptslmnv1.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MdM" == Michel de Montaigne <montaigne@att.net> writes:

    JW> You do not belong here.

    MdM> You belong up your ass where your head is.

SWEET COMEBACK!!!!!1!!!

    MdM> Who the fuck died and left you arbiter of who "belongs"
    MdM> where? Fuck you and your silly ass opinions.

You, sir, are an unpleasantly literalist fuckhead.

    MdM> ha ha Jeffy.

Let's put this on a flag with a picture of a koala bear.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "A mandrill's behavior is mysterious." -- Mask of the Mandrill
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Sun Dec  1 21:48:01 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <87ptslmnv1.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021201131426.GA2214@8ball.wox.org> <20021201161058.GC1228@panax.com> <20021201161448.GX22853@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net> <20021202051241.GB574@localhost.localdomain> <87ptslmnv1.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021202054801.GT29351@zork.net>

begin  The Mighty Silverback  quotation:
> Let's put this on a flag with a picture of a koala bear.

    <Michel> But sir!  Siiiiiiir!  The koala is not a bear!

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Sun Dec  1 21:53:16 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <20021202051241.GB574@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20021201131426.GA2214@8ball.wox.org> <20021201161058.GC1228@panax.com> <20021201161448.GX22853@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net> <20021202051241.GB574@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20021202055316.GB2899@8ball.wox.org>

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commence  Michel de Montaigne  quotation:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 03:14:48AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > You do not belong here.
> 
> You belong up your ass where your head is. Who the fuck died and left you
> arbiter of who "belongs" where? Fuck you and your silly ass opinions.

Oooohhh... look at me, I'm Michael the Mon-Tag-En-Ee and I'm oh so
Yooropean!  My suggestion that you make inferior decisions about
inclusion sub-tile-ee suggests that I make superior decisions on the
matter.

> ha ha Jeffy.

Now look at me steal and mangle another meme, like the pirate jokes and
orange dicks before it!  Next I will refer to items as "emad"!

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From jmorris at intercode.com.au  Mon Dec  2 05:54:18 2002
From: jmorris at intercode.com.au (James Morris)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030052310.22955-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au>
Message-ID: <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030053320.22965-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au>

> Let's put this on a flag with a picture of a koala bear.
> 
> ~Mr. Bad

http://www.intercode.com.au/jeff.png

I had this done by a professional.


- James
-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@intercode.com.au>




From carton at Ivy.NET  Mon Dec  2 07:34:13 2002
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] educational access channel
Message-ID: <oq7kes4eq1.fsf@balthasar.nat>

Did anyone else see the movie _O_ on channel 15 last night?  I had to
turn it off because I couldn't take it any more---it was just too
intense.  That hasn't happened to me since like seven years ago when I
tried to read _Lolita_ and had to keep putting it down because it
reminded me too much of my father.  wow.  what a fantastic Teen Movie,
though I only saw like 20% of it.

-- 
Speaking of Cornell (a.k.a. "Big Red") Feminists, have I already
mentioned that during my years there (88-93), the "underground"
feminist newspaper was titled "The Big Red Rag"?
		-- TJIC


From dmarti at zgp.org  Mon Dec  2 12:18:51 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Gifs and world domination
In-Reply-To: <20021128000328.GV10059@linuxmafia.com>
References: <20021127213651.GA3671@localhost.localdomain> <20021128000328.GV10059@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org>

begin Rick Moen quotation of Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:03:29PM -0800:

> December 10, by the way.

The expiration isn't June 20, 2003?

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Mon Dec  2 12:38:10 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Gifs and world domination
In-Reply-To: <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org>
References: <20021127213651.GA3671@localhost.localdomain> <20021128000328.GV10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20021202203810.GA3803@8ball.wox.org>

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> begin Rick Moen quotation of Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:03:29PM -0800:
> 
> > December 10, by the way.
> 
> The expiration isn't June 20, 2003?

Oh great, now we're gonna descend into another sell by date vs. 
expiration date flamewar.  

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From rick at linuxmafia.com  Mon Dec  2 12:51:57 2002
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Gifs and world domination
In-Reply-To: <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org>
References: <20021127213651.GA3671@localhost.localdomain> <20021128000328.GV10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20021202205157.GS10059@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting Don Marti (dmarti@zgp.org):

>> December 10, by the way.
> 
> The expiration isn't June 20, 2003?

Being a lazy git, I simply pulled that from an old e-mail, rather than
looking up the patent.  I have no specific reason at this late date to
think the old e-mail was correct, so please go with any better sources
of information you might have handy.

-- 
Cheers,                     Errors have been made.  Others will be blamed.
Rick Moen
rick@linuxmafia.com


From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu  Mon Dec  2 12:51:55 2002
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Gifs and world domination 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:38:10 CST."
             <20021202203810.GA3803@8ball.wox.org> 
References: <20021127213651.GA3671@localhost.localdomain> <20021128000328.GV10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org>
            <20021202203810.GA3803@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <200212022051.gB2KptD9010345@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:38:10 CST, Brian Danger Hicks said:

> Oh great, now we're gonna descend into another sell by date vs. 
> expiration date flamewar.  

So which date did Hitler's crew tatoo on the concentration camp victims?

(Let's invoke Godwin and get it over with already)


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Mon Dec  2 14:34:22 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Gifs and world domination
In-Reply-To: <200212022051.gB2KptD9010345@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
References: <20021127213651.GA3671@localhost.localdomain> <20021128000328.GV10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org> <20021202203810.GA3803@8ball.wox.org> <200212022051.gB2KptD9010345@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
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> On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:38:10 CST, Brian Danger Hicks said:
> 
> > Oh great, now we're gonna descend into another sell by date vs. 
> > expiration date flamewar.  
> 
> So which date did Hitler's crew tatoo on the concentration camp victims?

Actually, all inmates in Nazi concentration camps were tattooed with RC5
code, preventing them from leaving the country.

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec  2 16:42:39 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021203004238.GF31284@zork.net>

ha ha exams week.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

m.c.schrijver@student.utwente.nl has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From babaracus at bellsouth.net  Mon Dec  2 17:16:40 2002
From: babaracus at bellsouth.net (babaracus@bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FreeBSD part of 'Axis of EEEEEEVIL'
Message-ID: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.music.makers.bass+freebsd&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=883314807837016238%40news.bcn.ttd.net&rnum=1


-- 
B.A., foo'!



From dep at linuxandmain.com  Mon Dec  2 18:19:17 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FreeBSD part of 'Axis of EEEEEEVIL'
In-Reply-To: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
References: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
Message-ID: <200212022119.17720.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  babaracus@bellsouth.net's  quote:
| http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.music.makers.bass+freeb
|sd&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=8833148078370162
|38%40news.bcn.ttd.net&rnum=1

i guess this is a big season for you, what with the movie where 
they're going to turn loose jesus or somebody else and the crowd 
screams "give us babaracus!" this is because television programmers 
are either jewish or so addled with drugs that they don't know the 
difference between christmas and easter. which is why the theme 
ingredient on iron chef december 20 will be rabbit, but come spring 
it will be infant.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Mon Dec  2 18:33:50 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FreeBSD part of 'Axis of EEEEEEVIL'
In-Reply-To: <200212022119.17720.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of
 "Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:19:17 -0500")
References: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
	<200212022119.17720.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <87ptsjal0x.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "d" == dep  <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

    d> this is because television programmers are either jewish or so
    d> addled with drugs that they don't know the difference between
    d> christmas and easter.

I'd like to point out that it's pretty cool to be:

    a) drug-addled
    b) Jewish

...and not necessarily in that order.

Oh, and as a pre?mptive comeback: shut up, fanboy. Yeah, I know you
have something to say on the matter.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "A mandrill's behavior is mysterious." -- Mask of the Mandrill
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From aelmore at interwoven.com  Mon Dec  2 19:19:31 2002
From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FreeBSD part of 'Axis of EEEEEEVIL'
In-Reply-To: <87ptsjal0x.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost> <200212022119.17720.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87ptsjal0x.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021203031931.GM31476@interwoven.com>

On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 06:33:50PM -0800, Mister Bad wrote:
> 
>     d> this is because television programmers are either jewish or so
>     d> addled with drugs that they don't know the difference between
>     d> christmas and easter.
> 
> I'd like to point out that it's pretty cool to be:
> 
>     a) drug-addled
>     b) Jewish

I feel compelled to add, that it's pretty cool to:
      c) not know the difference between christmas and easter.



From helpdesk at fuck-everything.org  Mon Dec  2 22:30:40 2002
From: helpdesk at fuck-everything.org (Reference Desk)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FreeBSD part of 'Axis of EEEEEEVIL'
In-Reply-To: <20021203031931.GM31476@interwoven.com>
References: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
	 <200212022119.17720.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87ptsjal0x.fsf@pigdog.org>
	 <20021203031931.GM31476@interwoven.com>
Message-ID: <1038897038.1070.97779.camel@amory.vnetworx.net>

On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 22:19, Andrew Elmore wrote:
>       c) not know the difference between christmas and easter.

Q: What is the difference between Christmas and Easter?
A: Many millions of dollars.

New Marketing Encyclopedia & Frequently Asked Questions
Volume I, Page 172




From rick at linuxmafia.com  Tue Dec  3 00:28:40 2002
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021127011117.GB2158@panax.com> <20021127070032.GI10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com> <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting Mister Bad (mr.bad@pigdog.org):

> By this I mean: could we take a single site with 100,000 software
> projects hosted, like SourceForge, and change it into a thousand sites
> with 100 projects apiece? AND keep all the benefits that SourceForge
> has? e.g., searchability, etc.?

Well, for all the people who want to try, as of this past weekend we
suddenly have exactly the right software to do it with:
http://gforge.org/

In other words, Tim Perdue is back, he's cleaned up the mess that VA
Software made of his source code, and it looks like he'll get the main,
open-source codebase moving forward again.

-- 
Cheers,                        My pid is Inigo Montoya.  You kill -9    
Rick Moen                      my parent process.  Prepare to vi.
rick@linuxmafia.com


From magnus at bodin.org  Tue Dec  3 00:48:30 2002
From: magnus at bodin.org (Magnus Bodin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Gifs and world domination
In-Reply-To: <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org>
References: <20021127213651.GA3671@localhost.localdomain> <20021128000328.GV10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021202201851.GB21523@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20021203084830.GI285@bodin.org>

On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 12:18:51PM -0800, Don Marti wrote:
> begin Rick Moen quotation of Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:03:29PM -0800:
> 
> > December 10, by the way.
> 
> The expiration isn't June 20, 2003?

YES. 

<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1='4,558,302'.WKU.&OS=PN/4,558,302&RS=PN/4,558,302>

-- 
http://x42.com
                  There is 110 types of people.
                  Those who understand negabinary, and those who don't.


From rick at linuxmafia.com  Tue Dec  3 02:28:26 2002
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Contr-o-o-o-ol
In-Reply-To: <v03007805ba0d8d4f4de7@[10.0.1.2]>
References: <87ptsrpweu.fsf@pigdog.org> <874ra50z1e.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021126043033.GJ19596@linuxmafia.com> <20021126162105.GA32209@alternex.com.br> <20021127013210.GV19596@linuxmafia.com> <87hee33huy.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021127023849.GZ19596@linuxmafia.com> <87ptsrpweu.fsf@pigdog.org> <v03007805ba0d8d4f4de7@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <20021203102826.GV10059@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting Mikael Pawlo (mikael@pawlo.com):

> Did you try submitting an URL?
> 
> I think this is pretty clear:
> 
> Submission Agreement

Hmm, thanks for pointing that out.

> In exchange for ODP's consideration of the site I am submitting, I agree
> To be bound by the ODP's Terms of Use.

Which is where you purportedly hand over title to your copyright.  

Which brings me neatly back to my original point.  

So, I'm glad to write to the primary category maintainer for SCM software, 
telling him he's welcome to borrow material from my information
collection and use it as he sees fit.  But I'll be damned if I'm going
to sign over ownership of what I create to the ODP site owners.

-- 
Cheers,                        My pid is Inigo Montoya.  You kill -9    
Rick Moen                      my parent process.  Prepare to vi.
rick@linuxmafia.com


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Tue Dec  3 03:55:47 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FreeBSD part of 'Axis of EEEEEEVIL'
In-Reply-To: <87ptsjal0x.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost> <200212022119.17720.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87ptsjal0x.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <200212030655.47117.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Mister Bad's  quote:

| I'd like to point out that it's pretty cool to be:
|
|     a) drug-addled
|     b) Jewish
|
| ...and not necessarily in that order.

please. i have no objection to either; some of my best friends are 
drug-addled and i've been known to partake of judism a few times 
myself. but when it comes to santa sliding over the snow on a norelco 
razor or anything involving anything named old spice gift set, either 
of those states of being is bringing a skilsaw to the debutantes 
ball.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec  3 10:18:01 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [gary@acmevaporware.com: Russian Scientists threaten to halt Space War]
Message-ID: <20021203181801.GK31284@zork.net>

So I have heard the microwave oven story several times now.  I first
heard that they were used as dirt-cheap radar station decoys, since
the oven element ran at the same frequency as most radar stations in
the area.  Supposedly they laid out tens of thousands of the things,
so that the whole country looked like a big radar field.  

Probably cooked everyone's genitalia, too.

----- Forwarded message from Gary Clemenceau <gary@acmevaporware.com> -----

this is actually quite amazing.

-g.

***********************************************************************
Anti-weapons: Russian Scientists threaten to halt Space War
by Vladimir Bogdanov

Rossiyskaya Gazeta (Moscow) October 18, 2002
 globalresearch.ca , 23 November/ novembre 2002

Is it possible for one eccentric professor to neutralize the enormous
years-long labors of thousands of highly skilled scientists,
engineers, and workers to develop precision "smart weapons" at the
cost of tens of billions of dollars? "Easy," as they say in Russia. A
St. Petersburg scientist, Dr. of Technical Sciences Valentin
Vladimirovich Kashinov, has managed to do just that. With his
inventions he has virtually "shut down" western efforts to create 21st
century weapons, precision "smart" weapons which find targets based on
information from satellites, and thus are today considered nearly one
hundred percent effective. Valentin Kashinov made his "contribution"
to the defense capability of the US and NATO, practically knocking out
the latest, multi-billion dollar military space system, and at the
same time raising doubts about the advisability of Washington's
development of a national ABM defense.

Summoning Missiles to the Oven

In the heat of massed missile strikes on Belgrade and Yugoslavian air
defense radar positions in the spring of 1999, the telephone rang one
night in a St. Petersburg apartment.

It was the chairman of the radio club of Yugoslavia, Khranislav
Milocevic.  Valentin Kashinov answered. The Yugoslav described the
great destruction and casualties caused by strikes of NATO aircraft,
"HARM" air-to-ground missiles, and Tomahawk cruise missiles. Milocevic
asked for help in fending off these bombardments. Valentin
Vladimirovich immediately inquired if they had any microwave ovens.
This was followed by a puzzled silence, and then: "Of course!"
Kashinov advised that they get some ordinary microwave ovens and aim
them upwards, with doors open, around an installation they wanted to
protect, and then turn them on. Khranislav understood at once. The
fact was that an American HARM missile would home in on any strong
source of radio emission in the 400-10,000 MHz range, exactly the
range of conventional household microwave ovens. Literally the next
day following this conversation, NATO forced bombed their own
embassies in Belgrade.

NATO pilots were fooled, and bombed microwave ovens instead of Serbian
tanks for nearly half the time of the air attacks.

According to a British officer who spent six months in the region and
offered his own assessment of bombing damage, the Serbs lured the NATO
planes using household microwave ovens to simulate the emissions of
armored transport systems.

The NATO propaganda machine initially announced that more than 100
tanks, 250 APCs, and 389 cannon had been destroyed. These damage
figures have since been revised, since independent observers found
only 13 tanks knocked out. As it turned out, the same targets were
targeted (and destroyed) repeatedly by different pilots.

A NATO officer who gave an anonymous interview to the British Herald
stated that only three tanks were found. "The Serbs use a lot of
tricks to elude NATO bombs. The use of microwave ovens from houses in
Kosovo to thumb their noses at the alliance was only one of their
ruses."

The beauty of Serbian countermeasures lay in the fact that it demanded
nothing of them, since they used 100-dollar decoy devices (microwave
ovens) which were available in every household. And the guided bombs
cost around 30,000 dollars.. They also studied Iraq's experience in
the "Gulf War" (or rather, "Desert Fox," when they jammed the American
GPS satellite system).

As for the military operation "Desert Storm" against Iraq in 1991, it
is now clear that the Americans almost lost it, again thanks to the
inventions of Russian scientist Valentin Kashinov. According to
information from the Reuters agency, at the time American planes in
Iraq were able to hit less than a third of their marked targets. Most
of the bombs dropped on Iraq failed to hit their targets. Most of them
"hit the sand," as they say.  According to reports from US Navy
representatives, the bombs fell at a distance of several tens of
meters from the target. Of twenty-five radars, only eight were
destroyed. Nearly all the guided AGM-154A bombs deviated sharply to
the left. According to Navy representatives, this was because of an
error in the guidance software system. But again the Americans
prevaricated. The simple fact was that the entire space guidance
system didn't work.

A Mini-Jammer for Bombs and Satellites

In the last ten years, America has tried to fight by the contact-free
method, without shedding the blood of its soldiers. The US beat the
Taliban regime in six weeks without a single casualty! In these six
weeks they achieved political and strategic goals which the USSR was
unable to achieve in 10 years of ground war in Afghanistan losing tens
of thousands of soldiers.

America is quietly cutting its ground forces. Divisions remain only on
paper. The US no longer needs an infantry. The Navy and Air Force
remain, but only as carriers of munitions to theaters of military
action. The US is building itself an ABM system, but as a secondary,
half measure. Their chief goal is to create a space infrastructure, in
the guise of an ABM system, to fight future contact-free wars.

Precision "smart" weapons now take center stage. These find their
targets from information transmitted by satellite, and thus, their
creators believe, they are nearly one hundred percent effective. "But
that is only in the minds of the creators," Valentin Kashinov
believes. "What is the actual case? Some of the Tomahawks flew off
into Macedonia and Bulgaria in the Yugoslavia campaign, and some
self-destructed in the air."

After the famous telephone conversation, the Petersburg scientist
e-mailed a plan to Yugoslavia for a simple radio device which could
suppress the signals of the American NAVSTAR GPS satellite navigation
system. Deprived of their satellite guide, the missile was "blinded."
Result: about 10 percent of the cruise missiles failed to reach their
target. According to a BBC report, 28 missiles self-destructed in the
air in a single raid.

The American NAVSTAR GPS satellite navigation system is the NATO
standard for all types of weapons-ships, aircraft, including cruise
missiles and guided bombs, tanks, and even individual soldiers. It has
been been successfully developed for ten years now. The system is
reliable and user-friendly, and all combat arms have gotten used to it
and trust it without question. The GPS accuracy is 10 meters and its
operating zone is the entire planet.

The US has even tried to introduce the GPS as the standard for the
International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), but this did not
happen for many reasons, particularly because of its extremely low
resistance to the slightest interference.

Without going into the technical details, let us say only that Russian
scientists conducted an experiment with Ashtech GPS receivers of the
OEM "Sensor" type (which can easily be purchased in Moscow). The
experiment showed that inference in the form of a carrier wave of any
frequency between 1576 and 1578 MHz with a radiated power of -55 dB
blocked reception of satellite signals by a receiver located nearby.
If we do the math, a few watts of power, about what a flashlight uses,
is enough to jam GPS signals within line of sight at a distance of up
to 500 km.

Thus so-called GPS mini-jammers can have a power of a few watts. The
jamming area is line of sight, and for a Tomahawk cruise missile
traveling at a height of 25 meters is 20 kilometers.

The Storm Hits the Sand

Today, when the Americans are intensifying preparations for a new
military operation against Iraq (which, according to some data, will
cost the US 200 billion dollars), Kashinov's mini-jammers may again be
in demand.  Especially since, it turns out, Baghdad has used them very
successfully since 1991.

Valentin Kashinov relates: "Before Desert Storm began, I sent a
registered letter to Baghdad suggesting that they use such rudimentary
transmitters for electronic warfare (EW) against the American GPS
navigational system.  The Iraqis immediately adopted this suggestion.
An organized team of specialists traveled through the desert setting
up transmitters. US and British planes hunted this team, and continue
to do so, for the war against Iraq has not halted even for a minute. I
learned from the mass media that more than 100 Tomahawks have
self-destructed in the air en route to Iraq.  These missiles have
built-in receivers and control computers. Before flight, a program of
the flight trajectory and target coordinates are entered in the
computer. The job of the mini-jammers is to create interference on the
airwaves which prevents reception of satellite signals.  The
phase-modulated signals used in the GPS are still considered the
height of interference resistance, but that is not the case. It is a
serious miscalculation. The optimal interference for jamming
phase-modulated signals is simply a detuned carrier wave. A simpler EW
device could not be imagined. A self-destruct program is included in
the computer for just this case. And this means that the Tomahawk is
by no means a flawless weapon, as the Americans have assured the
entire world. Nor is the widely trumpeted American NAVSTAR GPS
satellite navigation system, which consists of 24 satellites on orbit,
and compact palm-sized receiver/ displays. They show the location of
an object in any coordinate system, as well as the speed and height of
displacement. But the higher-tech the weapon, the more easily it can
be suppressed. Western scientists have generally forgotten how to
think; the computer is supposed to think for them."

Stealth Armor Covers the Whole Country

It should be noted that during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, the
Russian scientist sent Brussels a description of the anti-weapon
against the NAVSTAR GPS system, warning that if they did not cease
their outrages, he would publish methods for "rubbing out" other
navigational systems as well, for example TACAN, DME, LORAN, etc.

And these means enormous losses for the West. It has been calculated
that because of Kashinov's mini-jammers, which virtually put the
NAVSTAR system out of commission, the Americans lost 80 billion
dollars and 20 years of work by their scientists. According to
available information, today they are trying to develop a new system,
since the GPS system cannot be improved, and this will require time
and money. So the US will hardly be able to develop an ABM system with
guaranteed effectiveness.

You see, the arsenal of anti-weapons includes devices which create
short, or as they are called, "nanosecond" pulses of electromagnetic
radiation of enormous power, exceeding the power of a nuclear burst.
When they act on modern high- tech microcircuits (transistor diameter
less than the thickness of a human hair), in the best case these
emissions create system glitches, and in the worst case they put the
microcircuits out of commission. Naturally, the weapon controlled by
the computer which is destroyed by the pulse is also knocked out, be
it a missile, ship, or tank.

Portable space navigational system jammers produced by a Russian
company were first displayed at the Moscow International Aerospace
Show in 1997, provoking genuine shock and horror among military users
of these navigation systems.

Of course, as they say, it is impossible to shut down America, and
this is the normal course of the rivalry between armor and projectile.
But today "Russian armor" can reliably protect, for some time, any
country which desires it.

--


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
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Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec  3 10:22:13 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021203182213.GL31284@zork.net>

Woo.  You are edgy and modern with your ironic domain name.  Let's all
start a zine or something.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

rwhe@ludism.org has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey.



----- End forwarded message -----

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Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From unknown at panax.com  Tue Dec  3 12:39:03 2002
From: unknown at panax.com (Patrick McFarland)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com>
References: <20021127070032.GI10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com> <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com>

On 03-Dec-2002, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Mister Bad (mr.bad@pigdog.org):
> 
> > By this I mean: could we take a single site with 100,000 software
> > projects hosted, like SourceForge, and change it into a thousand sites
> > with 100 projects apiece? AND keep all the benefits that SourceForge
> > has? e.g., searchability, etc.?
> 
> Well, for all the people who want to try, as of this past weekend we
> suddenly have exactly the right software to do it with:
> http://gforge.org/
> 
> In other words, Tim Perdue is back, he's cleaned up the mess that VA
> Software made of his source code, and it looks like he'll get the main,
> open-source codebase moving forward again.

Let me be the first to say that is pretty fucking cool. I dont hate VA
(especially since I remember when VA was still .. cool) but VA should have
their collective asses kicked for doing what they did with not releasing any
future code releases.

-- 
Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd 
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989


From sam at dasbistro.com  Tue Dec  3 14:03:37 2002
From: sam at dasbistro.com (Sam Phillips)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [Bram@moolenaar.net: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <87ptst17kw.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021124080719.GE11779@kroah.com> <20021124184735.GA23625@zgp.org> <20021124195449.GA20253@kroah.com> <20021125082255.GK27201@linuxmafia.com> <20021125190439.GC23580@kroah.com> <87bs4d30qo.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021125193615.GD23580@kroah.com> <877kf12z4d.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021125231700.GD25269@kroah.com> <87ptst17kw.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021203220336.GB20181@dasbistro.com>

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:46:23PM -0800, Mr. Bad wrote:
> P.S. Mmm... Zangband. Think I'll go throw away some freedom right now.
> 

http://www.langband.org/

-- 
Sam Phillips <sam@dasbistro.com>             http://www.dasbistro.com/~sam
Das Bistro Heavy Industries                       Histogram Valley, Nevada


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec  3 14:14:36 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com>
References: <20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com> <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com>
Message-ID: <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net>

begin  Patrick McFarland  quotation:
> Let me be the first to say that is pretty fucking cool. I dont hate
> VA (especially since I remember when VA was still .. cool) but VA
> should have their collective asses kicked for doing what they did
> with not releasing any future code releases.

	Eh, their asses were kicked *before* they did that.  OSDN is
pretty much the only side of the bicameral VA that's doing anything
worthwhile, and they're making money at it to boot.  The VASW folks
are just wanking around and spending OSDN's money.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Dec  3 15:01:42 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net>
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org>

begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 02:14:36PM -0800:

> 	Eh, their asses were kicked *before* they did that.  OSDN is
> pretty much the only side of the bicameral VA that's doing anything
> worthwhile, and they're making money at it to boot.

+1 Insightful d3wd!!!!

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec  3 15:13:23 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org>
References: <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20021203231322.GD28604@zork.net>

begin  Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere  quotation:
> > OSDN is pretty much the only side of the bicameral VA that's doing
> > anything worthwhile, and they're making money at it to boot.
> 
> +1 Insightful d3wd!!!!

	Yeah, and they make 5 cents everytime someone follows a banner
from a "Software patents sukkk!" or "Norwegian university students
build 500' Lego[tm] penis" article.

	But you'll notice that SourceForge.Net is on the OSDN side.
They've also resisted using the latest braindead "we sold 30 licenses"
copy of the proprietary sourceforge fork.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From rick at linuxmafia.com  Tue Dec  3 15:45:09 2002
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [gary@acmevaporware.com: Russian Scientists threaten to halt Space War]
In-Reply-To: <20021203181801.GK31284@zork.net>
References: <20021203181801.GK31284@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021203234509.GE10059@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting Nick Moffitt (nick@zork.net):

> So I have heard the microwave oven story several times now.  I first
> heard that they were used as dirt-cheap radar station decoys, since
> the oven element ran at the same frequency as most radar stations in
> the area.  Supposedly they laid out tens of thousands of the things,
> so that the whole country looked like a big radar field.  
> 
> Probably cooked everyone's genitalia, too.

I'm hoping George Smith won't have a tizzy about my posting his
newsletter contents:

 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:56:55 -0500
 From: George Smith <70743.1711@compuserve.com>
 Subject: Crypt News: Weapon of the week, a letter


Crypt News special:

December 3, 2002

An Angry Letter on last week's "Self-Healing Minefield:"


--Perhaps you might think differently if your children lived in 
Seoul, 20 miles from 175,000 North Korean troops.  (Troops that 
are commanded by a government that just let 600,000 of its own 
people starve to death) However, since you are just another Leftist 
puke living safely in New York, and protected by others, you can 
afford to sneer at the people, the weapons and the tools used 
to protect the citizens of South Korea.  God knows you're not going 
to do anything to help.

-- Pacsand

Read the object of ire:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0248/smith.php 

Don't miss the groovy DARPA Flash animation of the "Self-healing
minefield" because "Now it's your move!"



Weapon of the Week: The Pentagon's Microwave Phaser

The Pentagon has always craved a phaser. Now it's turning 
to microwaving as a potential means of singeing the enemy. 

The Department of Defense's bland name for this electronic 
heat ray is the Vehicle-Mounted Active Denial (VMAD) system, a 
mouthful of jargon that yields few clues about the weapon's nature. 
Allegedly designed for an Orwellian task -- "humanitarian 
missions" -- the VMAD is a giant version of your microwave oven, 
without the safety box surrounding it. The generals want to move 
it around on a humvee. 

Official propaganda on the device is that it makes one's skin only 
lightbulb hot, enough to force a person to run but not enough to 
cook him. Of course, there is no proof this can be achieved, 
because the results of tests on people are classified. It's safe, 
insist the inventors, the air force's Directed Energy Directorate 
in Albuquerque. 

But anyone with first-hand experience broiling hot dogs and 
other non-robust meats in their tabletop microwave might be 
chary of such an assertion. Struck by the heat ray, "Sssss," went 
the eyeball. 

What is the microwaver's target? It must be unarmed civilians, 
because as described, the VMAD wouldn't seem to offer much a
gainst terrorists or regular soldiers ready to fire back with 
conventional weapons. What is certain is that the Pentagon's 
microwave projects lack oversight and common sense. In one manic, 
grandiose claim, the Defense Department calls VMAD "the biggest
breakthrough in weapons technology since the atomic bomb." 

The lust for military microwaving has also been a sinkhole for 
tax dollars. While much of the work remains deep in the shadows, 
the Directed Energy Directorate does allow that $40 million went 
out the door for the VMAD over the last decade. An additional $15 million
was awarded to ITT Industries for research on high-power
microwaving applications in bombs and other types of ray guns. 

Microwaving facilities pictured as part of the Directorate also 
look to have cost a small fortune. One 27,000-square-foot 
concrete monolith is worth $9 million, resulting in a 
"cost-effective and timely capability." 

Vendors capitalizing on the VMAD include Raytheon, CPI 
(Communications and Power Industries), and Veridian Engineering
-- a tech firm menacingly cited for its part in researching 
"biological effects." 

For the pretty pictures and to knock the pagehit counter
up:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0249/smith.php 

-- George Smith


 



From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec  3 17:33:22 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Players are encouraged to make monkey jokes throughout the game.
Message-ID: <20021204013322.GB21168@zork.net>

----- Forwarded message from Chris Goodwin <archer7@attbi.com> -----

Space Monkeys

An Icehouse game for two players.  Inspired by a pair of pajamas worn
by my almost ten month old son, Andrew.

Various factions of space monkeys have come to Earth to perform
experiments on humans.  The space monkeys have been discovered, and
must get to their ships and leave as soon as possible; one brave
monkey from a team will be left behind to be captured, because a ship
cannot be launched without both a pilot and ground crew.

Players are encouraged to make monkey jokes throughout the game.

Materials required:

* Five small and four large stackable Icehouse pieces of one color for
each player.  Small pieces are monkeys, and large pieces are ships.

* A chessboard.

Space Monkeys can be played with only a Black Ice set.

Object:

To launch your four ships.

Setting up:

Place four of your monkeys on the white spaces in your third row, and
your ships in the black spaces in your opponent's second row (your
seventh); your opponent's ships will be placed in the black spaces on
your second row.  There will be a fifth monkey; place this on any
white space of your choice in your second row (your opponent's ship
row on your side of the board).  Each player's first row is known as
the Bad Monkey Place (see below).

[Note:  Soon there will be a picture illustrating placement of the
pieces.]

Playing the game:

Decide in an equitable manner who goes first.

Players take turns; each player moves one piece on his or her turn.
Monkeys and occupied ships move diagonally one space forward or
backward, and may jump pieces belonging to the opponent; monkeys can
jump other monkeys, and ships can jump other ships, but monkeys can't
jump ships and vice versa.  Note that the monkeys are placed on the
white spaces and the ships on the black spaces, so they generally
won't interact (but see below).  (Jump means the same as it does in
checkers, though double or multiple jumps are not allowed.)

When a monkey is jumped, the jumping player places the jumped monkey
in a space of his or her choice in its owner's Bad Monkey Place.  If a
player's Bad Monkey Place is full, that player's monkeys may not be
jumped.  There are no restrictions on moving into or out of the Bad
Monkey Place, nor are there any restrictions based on being sent there
(i.e. no loss of turn or anything); the monkey just moves to the Bad
Monkey Place, and may then move out next turn.
 
Nothing happens to a ship that is jumped.
 
A ship can't move unless it has a monkey on board.  A monkey that is
orthogonally adjacent to a ship of its own color may board the ship as
a move; stack the monkey on top of the ship piece.

A player may launch one of his or her ships as a move.  (Rocket sounds
and motion are optional but recommended.)  In order for a ship to
launch, it must have a monkey of the same color on board, and there
must be a monkey of the same color in a space orthogonally adjacent to
it.  A ship that is launched is removed from the game.  When one
player has launched his or her four ships, that player wins; this
means that there will be one lone monkey left on Earth to face the
wrath of the Earth military. . . .

[Consider this a mid-to-late beta.  It has been playtested and so far
doesn't seem broken.]

-- 
Chris Goodwin
archer7@attbi.com

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-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From carton at Ivy.NET  Tue Dec  3 17:33:40 2002
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org>
 (Don Marti's message of "Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:01:42 -0800")
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com>
 <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com>
 <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com>
 <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org>
 <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com>
 <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "dm" == Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> writes:

    dm> +1 Insightful d3wd!!!!

yeah, well, Linux still sucks because its ``free'' license is a virus
that denies you your freedom to do what you like with the code that
you write.  Also, it is not quite ready for prime-time in today's
competitive enterprise deployments.  If Linux wants to compete, Linus
is going to have to make some big changes.

-- 
viva la Juniper, fux0rz


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec  3 18:06:17 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20021204020617.GC21168@zork.net>

begin  Trolldozer for Hire  quotation:
> Also, it is not quite ready for prime-time in today's competitive
> enterprise deployments.  

	DO NOT USE THE LINUX BETWEEN 19:00 AND 23:00!!!!

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Tue Dec  3 18:40:22 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Miles Nordin's  quote:
| >>>>> "dm" == Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> writes:
|
|     dm> +1 Insightful d3wd!!!!
|
| yeah, well, Linux still sucks because its ``free'' license is a
| virus that denies you your freedom to do what you like with the
| code that you write.  Also, it is not quite ready for prime-time in
| today's competitive enterprise deployments.  If Linux wants to
| compete, Linus is going to have to make some big changes.

linux is an operating system and it therefore does not want 
*anything.* linux would be perfectly happy as the magnet pencil in an 
iron filing magic slate. you were no doubt misled by the 
anthropomorphic assignment of a desire for liberty on the part of 
information, which also in reality has neither wants nor needs.

-- 
dep
national chairman, patio: people for the adequate treatment of 
inanimate objects

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Dec  3 19:58:11 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021204020617.GC21168@zork.net>
References: <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat> <20021204020617.GC21168@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021204035811.GC7168@zgp.org>

begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 06:06:17PM -0800:

> 	DO NOT USE THE LINUX BETWEEN 19:00 AND 23:00!!!!

<a href="http://gforge.org/">sourceforge</a>

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec  3 20:37:39 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20021204043739.GD21168@zork.net>

begin  dep  quotation:
> linux is an operating system 

	Linux is a kernel.  GNU is an Operating System.

	Linux is part of an operating system like Count Chocula is
Part Of This Complete Breakfast.  Yeah it's full of carbs, but it's
the orange juice and the eggs that make it more than just a bunch of
drivers.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From jesux at unix.tm  Tue Dec  3 20:22:49 2002
From: jesux at unix.tm (James Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource
 initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021204035811.GC7168@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212041522180.463-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au>

On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Don Marti wrote:

> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 06:06:17PM -0800:
> 
> > 	DO NOT USE THE LINUX BETWEEN 19:00 AND 23:00!!!!
> 
> <a href="http://gforge.org/">sourceforge</a>
> 

+3 Offtopic


-- 
James Moffitt

      "The Internet is a great way to get on the Net." 
                               -- Bob Dole




From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Dec  3 20:48:18 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:45 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021204043739.GD21168@zork.net>
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021204043739.GD21168@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021204044818.GA10601@zgp.org>

begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:37:39PM -0800:

> 	Linux is part of an operating system like Count Chocula is
> Part Of This Complete Breakfast.  Yeah it's full of carbs, but it's
> the orange juice and the eggs that make it more than just a bunch of
> drivers.

Guile is the orange juice, and Texinfo is the eggs.

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From carlos at baldric.uwo.ca  Tue Dec  3 21:27:34 2002
From: carlos at baldric.uwo.ca (Remember 1984?)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021204020617.GC21168@zork.net>
References: <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat> <20021204020617.GC21168@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021204052734.GA9730@systemhalted>

> 
> 	DO NOT USE THE LINUX BETWEEN 19:00 AND 23:00!!!!
> 

No no...

 Don't feed it after midnight.
 Don't spill water on it.

c.



From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec  3 22:02:12 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021204044818.GA10601@zgp.org>
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021204043739.GD21168@zork.net> <20021204044818.GA10601@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20021204060212.GF21168@zork.net>

begin  Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere  quotation:
> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:37:39PM -0800:
> > 	Linux is part of an operating system like Count Chocula is
> > Part Of This Complete Breakfast.  Yeah it's full of carbs, but it's
> > the orange juice and the eggs that make it more than just a bunch of
> > drivers.
> 
> Guile is the orange juice, and Texinfo is the eggs.

	libc is the plates and silverware.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Dec  3 23:41:38 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021203231322.GD28604@zork.net>
References: <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <20021203231322.GD28604@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021204074138.GA16094@zgp.org>

begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:13:23PM -0800:

> 	Yeah, and they make 5 cents everytime someone follows a banner
> from a "Software patents sukkk!" or "Norwegian university students
> build 500' Lego[tm] penis" article.

Man, you sure get a lot of Google ads when you search for "lego
penis".

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From vipvop-cm at musesick.org  Wed Dec  4 00:39:38 2002
From: vipvop-cm at musesick.org (MC MeatFlaps)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] monkey knife fight
Message-ID: <20021204083938.GA5685@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>

I was watching a repeat of the simpsons tonight - the episode where
Homer house sits for Burns, and ends up throwing a party on Burns'
yacht. At the party there is a monkey knife fight going on - is this
what those girls got it from?

sorry if this is old news...

-------------------------
http://www.haikusrus.com


From carlos at laviola.org  Wed Dec  4 04:10:08 2002
From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021203231322.GD28604@zork.net>
References: <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <20021203231322.GD28604@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021204121008.GA1345@laviola.org>

On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:13:23PM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
> begin  Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere  quotation:
> > > OSDN is pretty much the only side of the bicameral VA that's doing
> > > anything worthwhile, and they're making money at it to boot.
> > 
> > +1 Insightful d3wd!!!!
> 
> 	Yeah, and they make 5 cents everytime someone follows a banner
> from a "Software patents sukkk!" or "Norwegian university students
> build 500' Lego[tm] penis" article.

apt-get install privoxy

-- 
Carlos Laviola <carlos@laviola.org>


From jdub at perkypants.org  Wed Dec  4 06:48:17 2002
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030053320.22965-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au>
References: <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030052310.22955-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030053320.22965-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au>
Message-ID: <20021204144817.GG1312@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>

<quote who="James Morris">

> > Let's put this on a flag with a picture of a koala bear.
> > 
> > ~Mr. Bad
> 
> http://www.intercode.com.au/jeff.png
> 
> I had this done by a professional.

http://perkypants.org/misc/jdub.png

I had this done by a professional.

- Jeff

-- 
           "It's weird being without white noise." - Catie Flick            


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Wed Dec  4 07:47:51 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <20021204144817.GG1312@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
References: <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030052310.22955-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030053320.22965-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <20021204144817.GG1312@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
Message-ID: <200212041047.51356.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Jeff Waugh's  quote:
| <quote who="James Morris">
|
| > > Let's put this on a flag with a picture of a koala bear.
| > >
| > > ~Mr. Bad
| >
| > http://www.intercode.com.au/jeff.png
| >
| > I had this done by a professional.
|
| http://perkypants.org/misc/jdub.png
|
| I had this done by a professional.

a professional what?
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From jdub at perkypants.org  Wed Dec  4 07:56:58 2002
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <200212041047.51356.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030052310.22955-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030053320.22965-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au> <20021204144817.GG1312@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net> <200212041047.51356.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20021204155658.GH1312@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>

<quote who="dep">

> | > http://www.intercode.com.au/jeff.png
> |
> | http://perkypants.org/misc/jdub.png
> 
> a professional what?

Yes!

- Jeff

-- 
     "Stick that in your analogy pipe and smoke it!" - On returning the     
                            bulletproof analogue                            


From carton at Ivy.NET  Wed Dec  4 16:50:26 2002
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com>
 (dep's message of "Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:40:22 -0500")
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com>
 <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
 <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <oqu1hte1bg.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "d" == dep  <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

     d> linux is an operating system

YHBT.  YHL.  HAND.  GTFOML.

-- 
To ensure our security tomorrow, we will have to be sure that the poor  
of the world have a future. Social inequality will erode the legitimacy  
of the global capitalist system over time just as surely as the absence  
of freedom eroded communism from within.	-- Mikhail Gorbachev


From jv at zork.net  Wed Dec  4 17:08:29 2002
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: There Is No Walrus (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] FreeBSD part of 'Axis of EEEEEEVIL')
In-Reply-To: <200212030655.47117.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost> <200212022119.17720.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87ptsjal0x.fsf@pigdog.org> <200212030655.47117.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20021205010829.GB15499@zork.net>

dep plumbs a line:
> ... when it comes to santa sliding over the snow on a norelco razor or
> anything involving anything named old spice gift set, either of those
> states of being is bringing a skilsaw to the debutantes ball. dep

Santa, Founding Fathers, Ronald McDonald, Coke-Bear Polar-Iced Family
Values... ?what part of advertisement's adverse enticement through
cognitive dissonance rings so specially harsh on South Solstice.  -jv



From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Wed Dec  4 18:03:18 2002
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021204044818.GA10601@zgp.org>
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021204043739.GD21168@zork.net> <20021204044818.GA10601@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20021205020318.GA22609@callisto.jtan.com>

On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:48:18PM -0800, Don Marti wrote:
 
> Guile is the orange juice, and Texinfo is the eggs.

Then my brain on drugs would like this list?

-- 
Bob Bernstein   
at
Esmond, Rhode Island
USA


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Wed Dec  4 18:06:47 2002
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20021205020647.GC22609@callisto.jtan.com>

On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:33:40PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote:

> yeah, well, Linux still sucks because its ``free'' license is a virus
> that denies you your freedom to do what you like with the code that
> you write.

But what about the children?! It's for the children, dammit!

-- 
Bob Bernstein   
at
Esmond, Rhode Island
USA


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Wed Dec  4 18:12:20 2002
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021205020318.GA22609@callisto.jtan.com>
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat> <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021204043739.GD21168@zork.net> <20021204044818.GA10601@zgp.org> <20021205020318.GA22609@callisto.jtan.com>
Message-ID: <20021205021220.GD22609@callisto.jtan.com>

On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 09:03:18PM -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote:

> Then my brain on drugs would look like this list?
                               ^^^^
duh

-- 
Bob Bernstein   
at
Esmond, Rhode Island
USA


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Thu Dec  5 03:25:10 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource
 initiative]
In-Reply-To: <200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of
 "Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:40:22 -0500")
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
	<200212032140.22408.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <87isy8yag9.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "d" == dep  <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

    d> you were no doubt misled by the anthropomorphic assignment of a
    d> desire for liberty on the part of information, which also in
    d> reality has neither wants nor needs.

As an informational entity, I want and need to tell you that you are
mistaken.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct
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From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Thu Dec  5 03:28:31 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] monkey knife fight
In-Reply-To: <20021204083938.GA5685@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> (MC MeatFlaps's
 message of "Wed, 4 Dec 2002 00:39:38 -0800")
References: <20021204083938.GA5685@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
Message-ID: <87el8wyaao.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MM" == MC MeatFlaps <vipvop-cm@musesick.org> writes:

    MM> I was watching a repeat of the simpsons tonight - the episode
    MM> where Homer house sits for Burns, and ends up throwing a party
    MM> on Burns' yacht. At the party there is a monkey knife fight
    MM> going on - is this what those girls got it from?

No, of course not! I remember monkey knife fighting back when it was,
like, UNDERGROUND and shit. Before the Simpsons got hold of it and
made it something cheap and tawdry.

Anyways, everyone knows that bearfighting is where it's at nowadays.

~Mr. Bad

P.S. Monkey knife fighting still has a long way to go before it's
ready for the enterprise.

-- 
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Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Tue Dec  3 17:13:27 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
 subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021203182213.GL31284@zork.net> (Nick Moffitt's message of
 "Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:22:13 -0800")
References: <20021203182213.GL31284@zork.net>
Message-ID: <87isyawpqg.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "NM" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:

    NM> Woo.  You are edgy and modern with your ironic domain name.
    NM> Let's all start a zine or something.

You make that sound like a bad thing.

Hey, so, umm, is it a misspelling of "luddism", or does it have
something to do with Magister Ludi, or some kind of qaalude reference,
or am I being a big literalist fuckhead?

~Mr. Bad

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 "A mandrill's behavior is mysterious." -- Mask of the Mandrill
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Tue Dec  3 17:24:44 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] FreeBSD part of 'Axis of EEEEEEVIL'
In-Reply-To: <200212030655.47117.dep@linuxandmain.com> (dep's message of
 "Tue, 3 Dec 2002 06:55:47 -0500")
References: <20021203011640.SUFY1218.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
	<200212022119.17720.dep@linuxandmain.com> <87ptsjal0x.fsf@pigdog.org>
	<200212030655.47117.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <87el8ywp7n.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "d" == dep  <dep@linuxandmain.com> writes:

    d> please.

Thank you.

Hey, check us out! Mr. Bad and Dep Doggy Dogg! We're the rappin'
Kourtesy Kidz! Dropping phat polite rhymez that are right on time!
Because promptneZZ is kourteouZ and kourteouZ is k00l!

    d> i have no objection to either; some of my best friends are
    d> drug-addled and i've been known to partake of judism a few
    d> times myself.

I tried Judaism but I didn't inhale.

    d> but when it comes to santa sliding over the snow on a norelco
    d> razor or anything involving anything named old spice gift set,
    d> either of those states of being is bringing a skilsaw to the
    d> debutantes ball.

C'mon, man! You have to be Jewish to really grok Christmas. And drugs
are the only thing that make Old Spice bearable.

I wrote a kourteouZ rap about the whole situation:

          p-p-p-b-t-bbb-t!
          ppt-bt! pbt-bit!
          My honorable colleague,
          I humbly submit
          That on this issue
          You are grievously mistaken
          You were way II polite
          Because the best points were taken!
          Break it down! Watch me dance!
          It's KOURTEOUZ TIME!!

          [drum solo]

In conclusion, all politicians should be like Hans Blix, Bailey's
Irish Creme is pretty damn tasty, and Kartago detruenda estas.

~Mr. Bad
          
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Thu Dec  5 03:24:05 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource
 initiative]
In-Reply-To: <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat> (Miles Nordin's message of "03
 Dec 2002 20:33:40 -0500")
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com>
	<20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021128032429.GB731@panax.com>
	<20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org>
	<20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021203203903.GA446@panax.com> <20021203221436.GE31284@zork.net>
	<20021203230142.GB26050@zgp.org> <oqr8cy36vf.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <87n0nkyai2.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MN" == Miles Nordin <carton@Ivy.NET> writes:

    MN> If Linux wants to compete, Linus is going to have to make some
    MN> big changes.

If Linux just wants to fuck off and drink beer and talk dirty on IRC
and play xbill, though, things are just fine as they are.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Thu Dec  5 03:31:59 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Happy Mailman Day!
In-Reply-To: <20021204144817.GG1312@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net> (Jeff
 Waugh's message of "Thu, 5 Dec 2002 01:48:17 +1100")
References: <Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030052310.22955-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au>
	<Mutt.LNX.4.44.0212030053320.22965-100000@blackbird.intercode.com.au>
	<20021204144817.GG1312@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
Message-ID: <878yz4ya4w.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "JW" == Jeff Waugh <jdub@perkypants.org> writes:

    JW> http://perkypants.org/misc/jdub.png

Ha ha! You _LOOK_ Australian, man.

    JW> I had this done by a professional.

You should try to get your money back.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Thu Dec  5 04:00:27 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource
 initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> (Rick Moen's message of
 "Tue, 3 Dec 2002 00:28:40 -0800")
References: <20021127011117.GB2158@panax.com>
	<20021127070032.GI10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com>
	<20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com>
	<20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021128032429.GB731@panax.com>
	<20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com>
	<20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org>
	<20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <87smxcwu90.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "RM" == Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> writes:

    Me> By this I mean: could we take a single site with 100,000
    Me> software projects hosted, like SourceForge, and change it into
    Me> a thousand sites with 100 projects apiece?

    RM> Well, for all the people who want to try, as of this past
    RM> weekend we suddenly have exactly the right software to do it
    RM> with: http://gforge.org/

Sweet-ass. That's just great, man. Jabber stuff is totally cool.

So, anyways: is there a gforge instance installed on crackmonkey.org
yet? If not, why not?

~Mr. Bad

P.S. Somebody should work on putting some Arch support (version-wise,
not podiatric) into Gforge. That'd be great.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mr. Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org> | Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From sayler at thewalrus.org  Thu Dec  5 06:20:04 2002
From: sayler at thewalrus.org (Matthew Sayler)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] monkey knife fight
In-Reply-To: <87el8wyaao.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021204083938.GA5685@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <87el8wyaao.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021205142004.GA29236@cesum.speedsite.com>

On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:28:31AM -0800, Mister Bad wrote:
> Anyways, everyone knows that bearfighting is where it's at nowadays.

http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/10/17/boll/

Matt


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Thu Dec  5 10:57:12 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GForge! [was: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <87smxcwu90.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com> <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021203082840.GN10059@linuxmafia.com> <87smxcwu90.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021205185712.GN21168@zork.net>

begin  The Mighty Silverback  quotation:
> Sweet-ass. That's just great, man. Jabber stuff is totally cool.

	It's the chat system of the future, and always will be.
It looks like jabbur is more suited for replicating information from
gforge server to gforge server, or distributing the installation.
It's just no IRC, and that's that.

> So, anyways: is there a gforge instance installed on crackmonkey.org
> yet? If not, why not?

	A ban on SQL servers is in place at crackmonkey.org.  If you
want to do SQL flibburmajigs, use gadfly or something.  I'm not
installing some hyooj-azz daturbase servur just to let crackmonkeys
rate each other with a badly-implemented trust web or take surveys on
random bullshit.

> P.S. Somebody should work on putting some Arch support
> (version-wise, not podiatric) into Gforge. That'd be great.

	I would agree.  I think that sourceforge was the one thing
that made CVS as ubiquitous as it is.  Before, it was really sort of
this esoteric system that casual projects would see as too much
overhead.  It was only the big projects like guhnome or sambur that
had the know-how.  

	But with easy repository setup, and an actually fairly decent
reference-card introduction to getting to your repository (and web
tools already set up), suddenly everyone started learning CVS and
realizing how easy it was to install.

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From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Thu Dec  5 11:14:19 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] monkey knife fight
In-Reply-To: <87el8wyaao.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021204083938.GA5685@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <87el8wyaao.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021205191419.GO21168@zork.net>

begin  The Mighty Silverback  quotation:
> P.S. Monkey knife fighting still has a long way to go before it's
> ready for the enterprise.

	Just wait until I release my NEW MONKEY KNIFE FIGHT TWO POINT
OH with pointy ears and a fake lowlands accent!

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From nick at zork.net  Thu Dec  5 13:38:43 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021205213843.GT21168@zork.net>

FLOWERY TWATS

Hey Vernon.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

vmarshall@fartytowels.org has been successfully subscribed to
CrackMonkey.



----- End forwarded message -----

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From nick at zork.net  Thu Dec  5 15:49:52 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Sqrat Monkey protection agency
Message-ID: <20021205234952.GY21168@zork.net>

----- Forwarded message from Josh Greenman <joshg1973@yahoo.com> -----

   Naples council moves forward with squirrel monkey protections
   http://www.naplesnews.com/02/12/naples/d867963a.htm

   Naples council moves forward with squirrel monkey protections

   Thursday, December 5, 2002

   By DIANNA SMITH, dlsmith@naplesnews.com

   The Naples City Council's monkey business was for real Wednesday.

   Council voted 4-3 to pass the first reading of a proposed ordinance
   that would protect squirrel monkeys normally spotted near the
   Collier Athletic Club off Seventh Avenue North. Council will vote
   on the second and final reading of the proposed ordinance next
   month.

   Mayor Bonnie MacKenzie said there needs to be a rule in place to
   stop people from harassing and trapping the primates.

   "We would remove all doubt there is any opportunity for anyone to
   receive special permission to trap the monkeys," MacKenzie said.
   "The city is very serious. We will find you. We will arrest you,
   and we will prosecute you."

   "Big Daddy," a squirrel monkey, sits in a tree where he lives
   behind the Collier Athletic Club. Jason Easterly/File The monkeys
   were hunted by a local animal trader to be sold as pets or lab
   animals in the late 1990s. She said she has heard laboratories pay
   $1,500 for the squirrel monkeys.

   MacKenzie said some fire tranquilizer darts at the monkeys. Nearby
   residents saw a person trying to trap one a couple of weeks ago and
   they notified police.

   Councilman Bill MacIlvaine said the owners of the property where
   the monkeys live should take the matter up with the police and not
   the city.

   The city doesn't need to be involved, he said.

   "The idea of protecting a monkey is monkey business," MacIlvaine
   said.  "The more rules we have, the more difficulty we're making
   for everybody. I think it's an item that should be forgotten."

   MacIlvaine voted against the first reading, along with council
   members Clark Russell and Tamela Wiseman.

   Wiseman questioned why the council should create a rule protecting
   squirrel monkeys when there aren't rules protecting other animals.

   "Shouldn't we have an ordinance for every other type of wildlife we
   don't want to see shot, killed or trapped?" Wiseman said. "Do we
   need to protect the puppies at the mall?"

   MacIlvaine said it sounded to him like the monkeys are a nuisance,
   but Natural Resources Manager Jon Staiger said that isn't true.

   Staiger called the monkeys an attraction.

   MacKenzie said there used to be about 20 squirrel monkeys living
   near the athletic club, but the number has decreased.

   Members of the athletic club noticed the numbers were dropping in
   early 2001.

   Although the athletic club seems to be the monkeys' unofficial host
   by feeding them, the club discourages its members from feeding the
   monkeys from the tables out back because they would grow bolder and
   grab food not offered.

   The 12- to 18-inch monkeys that have golden fur on their feet and
   hands and black masks around their mouths have been Naples
   residents longer than most people here.

   Local lore has it they escaped from the Caribbean Gardens zoo years
   ago, but officials there say it isn't so. More than likely a couple
   of the monkeys, which are native to South America, were released
   into the wild by a Naples pet owner who no longer wanted them. And
   they've propagated on the property since.

----- End forwarded message -----

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From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Thu Dec  5 22:52:47 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SPATHI!
Message-ID: <20021206065247.GA7095@8ball.wox.org>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

So, one time about ten years ago, my brother and I were over at a
friend's house.  This friend was one of the few other kids we knew who
had a computer, as his father also worked at IBM.  Anyway, when we were
over at his house, he introduced us to this game where you got to chose
from about a dozen different ships and fly around in 2D space shooting
and coasting and such.  I was rather good at using the ship with the
cloaking device and letting loose the flamethrower when the other ships
got in range.  Enjoying this game, I inquired into its name so I could 
purchase a copy for myself.  "Star Control" it was called.

A while later, I don't remember the exact scale, I was at the local
Software Etc. and noticed they had a box in the bargan bin.  The cover
featured an alien-looking hand attempting to grasp some points of light.
The title on the box said "Star Control" and I bought it.  After
installing it on the family computer, I discovered that what I had
played was merely the Melee function, and there was a whole strategy
campaign where the Alliance of Free Stars battled the Ur-Quan Hierarchy
for control of the cosmos, or something like that.  I wasn't really
impressed with the campaigning, and so my brother and I played the melee
on our old classic PC joysticks with the red and yellow square buttons.

Years passed, and we played the melee less and less.  Then, on another 
excursion to our local Software Etc. I noticed a new box, "Star Control
II".  This promised more ships which I could engage in a new "Super
Melee".  I bought it, of course, and upon installation I found that the
old strategy campaign mode had been replaced with what I would now
categorize as a RPG.  The makers of the game had crafted an interesting
backstory and I enjoyed the game immensely.  Eventually, I bought my
first ever strategy guide and learned about the Doctrinal Conflict and
destroyed the Sa Matra, saving the day.

A few years more passed, and I discovered that Star Control III would be
coming out.  After a few months wait, it was in stores and I bought it.
I eventually bought the strategy guide for this as well, and beat the
game, but it wasn't as interesting, and they seemed to be running out of
ideas for the new ships.

Then, about a year or so ago, I was reminded of Star Control 2, and
attempted to get it running on my laptop under bochs.  Emulating a 386
was simple, getting sound and correct colors to work was not, however.
Eventually I gave up, meaning to try again.

This brings us to the present day, when I was informed of the good
people at http://sc2.sf.net  It's based off the 3do version, but my
deluxe Hyperspace map with Quasispace insert is still good, and I get to
threaten the Spathi, camp with the Orz, and make out with the Syreen all
over again!

So, I suggest you all download and play, play, play!

P.S.  Spathi!
- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From dep at linuxandmain.com  Fri Dec  6 06:45:53 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] well, i'm glad we finally got *that* out of the way
Message-ID: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com>

for once, it's the destination, not the journey:

http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/11/05/39145.html

"Secret American Space Planes to Dominate Planet Earth
". . . America is working on the first ever space army, which would 
provide the United States with complete domination in near-Earth 
orbit. It will not be possible for any anti-missile defense complexes 
to hit such planes, as they will be completely out of reach. The 
American space army will be able to hit any target on planet Earth at 
any moment."
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Fri Dec  6 07:21:28 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] well, i'm glad we finally got *that* out of the way
In-Reply-To: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org>

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commence  dep  quotation:
> for once, it's the destination, not the journey:
> 
> http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/11/05/39145.html
> 
> "Secret American Space Planes to Dominate Planet Earth
> ". . . America is working on the first ever space army, which would 
> provide the United States with complete domination in near-Earth 
> orbit. It will not be possible for any anti-missile defense complexes 
> to hit such planes, as they will be completely out of reach. The 
> American space army will be able to hit any target on planet Earth at 
> any moment."

Yes, yes, we went over this months ago in WiReD.

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From dep at linuxandmain.com  Fri Dec  6 07:45:51 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] well, i'm glad we finally got *that* out of the way
In-Reply-To: <20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org>
References: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <200212061045.52131.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Brian Danger Hicks's  quote:

| Yes, yes, we went over this months ago in WiReD.

if wired was writing about "the american space army," well, that 
explains *a lot.*
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From dmarti at zgp.org  Fri Dec  6 09:27:58 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 5 December 2002]
Message-ID: <20021206172758.GD1822@zgp.org>

Hello?  Doesn't anyone remember the "Look and Feel" case?  You can
copy UI with impunity!  Impunity, I say.

Word for the day: impunity

dict impunity

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       TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY

     "We've basically taken this as far as you can go without
     being prosecuted."

         Lycoris marketer Jason Spisak, on how closely his company's 
         Linux-based operating system mimics Microsoft Windows XP,
         CNN.com, 5 December 2002

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/12/05/sproject.hs02.cheap.pc.reut/

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KG6INA


From neale at woozle.org  Fri Dec  6 11:37:57 2002
From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] resurfacing
Message-ID: <w53isy7ym3u.fsf@woozle.org>

Hello, list.

Have all the slashdot weenies left yet?

Neale


From dmarti at zgp.org  Fri Dec  6 12:06:33 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [Bram@moolenaar.net: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021127011117.GB2158@panax.com> <20021127070032.GI10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com> <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021206200633.GA3935@zgp.org>

begin Mr. Bad quotation of Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 11:04:24AM -0800:

> By this I mean: could we take a single site with 100,000 software
> projects hosted, like SourceForge, and change it into a thousand sites
> with 100 projects apiece? AND keep all the benefits that SourceForge
> has? e.g., searchability, etc.?

The whole web has searchability.  All you have to go is get all the
mini-SourceForge sites to put the same magic word on their pages,
and Google becomes a project page search engine.

http://www.google.com/search?q=game+%2Bgforgeprojectpage

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From montaigne at att.net  Fri Dec  6 12:38:18 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] well, i'm glad we finally got *that* out of the way
In-Reply-To: <20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org>
References: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:21:28AM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote:

> Yes, yes, we went over this months ago in WiReD.

ha ha Wired.

No one reads Wired anymore. 

-- 
montaigne


From montaigne at att.net  Fri Dec  6 12:39:31 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] resurfacing
In-Reply-To: <w53isy7ym3u.fsf@woozle.org>
References: <w53isy7ym3u.fsf@woozle.org>
Message-ID: <20021206203931.GC14198@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:37:57AM -0800, Neale Pickett wrote:

> Have all the slashdot weenies left yet?

Ummm...we had our hopes up until just a few minutes ago!

-- 
montaigne


From simm at zork.net  Fri Dec  6 13:10:47 2002
From: simm at zork.net (Simm Al-Aekrib)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] resurfacing
In-Reply-To: <20021206203931.GC14198@localhost.localdomain>
References: <w53isy7ym3u.fsf@woozle.org> <20021206203931.GC14198@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20021206211047.GA6623@zork.net>

begin  Michel de Montaigne  quotation:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:37:57AM -0800, Neale Pickett wrote:
> 
> > Have all the slashdot weenies left yet?
> 
> Ummm...we had our hopes up until just a few minutes ago!
until a few minutes ago when "Michel De Montaigne" decided to reply to
the list. Damn bastards like him are still here!

-- 
Simm Al-Aekrib                          |   Optical Illusion Fun!!
"I have a prodigious quantity of mind;  |        )----------(
it takes me as much as a week           |        (----------) 
sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain |  Which line is longer???





From vipvop-cm at musesick.org  Fri Dec  6 13:21:35 2002
From: vipvop-cm at musesick.org (MC MeatFlaps)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] well, i'm glad we finally got *that* out of the way
In-Reply-To: <20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain>
References: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org> <20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20021206212134.GA15960@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 03:38:18PM -0500, Michel de Montaigne wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:21:28AM -0600, Brian Danger Hicks wrote:
> 
> > Yes, yes, we went over this months ago in WiReD.
> 
> ha ha Wired.
> 
> No one reads Wired anymore. 
I wish I still had that address of the old wired article talking about
how push technology is the next big thing and web clients are
obsolete - I'm too lazy to search for it, however it's funny reading
if anyone's bored...

-------------------------
http://www.haikusrus.com



From asf at void.at  Fri Dec  6 14:25:22 2002
From: asf at void.at (Andreas Fuchs)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 5
 December 2002]
References: <20021206172758.GD1822@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <E18KQuQ-0005Vf-00@eris.void.at>

Today, Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> wrote:
> Hello?  Doesn't anyone remember the "Look and Feel" case?  You can
> copy UI with impunity!  Impunity, I say.

When Linux UI projects get punished for stealing ideas from windows, imp
unions will be the last of your worries.

Hmm, imp unions abbreviate to IU. Didn't you mean to write this
instead? Instead, I say.

dict instead

-- 
Andreas Fuchs, <asf@acm.org>, asf@jabber.at, antifuchs


From nick at zork.net  Fri Dec  6 14:33:13 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021206223313.GE10259@zork.net>

Learn procmail, idjyt.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

crackmonkey@interform.org has been successfully subscribed to
CrackMonkey.



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-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Fri Dec  6 14:33:55 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 5 December 2002]
In-Reply-To: <E18KQuQ-0005Vf-00@eris.void.at>
References: <20021206172758.GD1822@zgp.org> <E18KQuQ-0005Vf-00@eris.void.at>
Message-ID: <200212061733.55905.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Andreas Fuchs's  quote:

| dict instead

of pussied.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From bker at yage.net  Fri Dec  6 15:05:22 2002
From: bker at yage.net (bker@yage.net)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021206223313.GE10259@zork.net>
References: <20021206223313.GE10259@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021206230522.GB3039@localhost.localdomain>

Apparently they don't want to learn the proper use of TLDs, either.

from http://www.interform.org :
                          ^^^
> INTERFORM, INC.
>
> Managing communications and content for your organization.
 


From aelmore at interwoven.com  Fri Dec  6 14:37:28 2002
From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] resurfacing
In-Reply-To: <w53isy7ym3u.fsf@woozle.org>
References: <w53isy7ym3u.fsf@woozle.org>
Message-ID: <20021206223728.GG38108@interwoven.com>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:37:57AM -0800, Neale Pickett wrote:
> Hello, list.
> 
> Have all the slashdot weenies left yet?
> 
> Neale


Hello?  Hello?  Anyone out there?  I can't seem

to get a dial tone on this thing.


From carton at Ivy.NET  Fri Dec  6 15:52:49 2002
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [Bram@moolenaar.net: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021206200633.GA3935@zgp.org>
 (Don Marti's message of "Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:06:33 -0800")
References: <20021127011117.GB2158@panax.com>
 <20021127070032.GI10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com>
 <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com>
 <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com>
 <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com>
 <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021206200633.GA3935@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <oq3cpaemcu.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "dm" == Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> writes:

    dm> all the mini-SourceForge sites to put the same magic word on
    dm> their pages, and Google 

This is not sustainable.  Google is controlled by the enemy.

-- 
Ignorance is always brave.


From dmarti at zgp.org  Fri Dec  6 16:07:38 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [Bram@moolenaar.net: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <oq3cpaemcu.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com> <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021206200633.GA3935@zgp.org> <oq3cpaemcu.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20021207000737.GB7038@zgp.org>

begin Miles Nordin quotation of Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 06:52:49PM -0500:

> This is not sustainable.  Google is controlled by the enemy.

Nothing is sustainable.  All is change.

Google depends on the goodwill of webmasters to remain accurate.
The more evil they get, the more people will fuck with their crawler
and with users arriving from their results pages.

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From nick at zork.net  Fri Dec  6 16:20:17 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net>

he's off to learn procmail, folks!


----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

crackmonkey@interform.org has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From squinky at dasbistro.com  Fri Dec  6 16:34:41 2002
From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net>
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:20:17PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote:
> he's off to learn procmail, folks!
> 

Don't let the doorknob get inserted into your rectum on the way out.

-- 
not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/


From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Fri Dec  6 16:46:22 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net>
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021207004622.GC7095@8ball.wox.org>

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> he's off to learn procmail, folks!
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----
> 
> crackmonkey@interform.org has been removed from CrackMonkey.
> 
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----

That's no way to talk to Christopher Raymond Ackmonkey!

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From montaigne at att.net  Fri Dec  6 18:53:03 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:46 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [Bram@moolenaar.net: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <oq3cpaemcu.fsf@balthasar.nat>
References: <20021127084045.GC6280@panax.com> <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021206200633.GA3935@zgp.org> <oq3cpaemcu.fsf@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20021207025303.GD14198@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 06:52:49PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote:

> This is not sustainable.  Google is controlled by the enemy.

This is a correct reading of the situation; the damn Mensheviks are
everywhere!

-- 
montaigne


From montaigne at att.net  Fri Dec  6 18:53:58 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [Bram@moolenaar.net: Microsoft funds OpenSource initiative]
In-Reply-To: <20021207000737.GB7038@zgp.org>
References: <20021127094424.GM10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021127112609.GA7196@panax.com> <20021127200803.GO10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128032429.GB731@panax.com> <20021128035610.GC10059@linuxmafia.com> <20021128180250.GA712@panax.com> <87smxkmc3r.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021206200633.GA3935@zgp.org> <oq3cpaemcu.fsf@balthasar.nat> <20021207000737.GB7038@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20021207025358.GE14198@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:07:38PM -0800, Don Marti wrote:

> Nothing is sustainable.  All is change.

ha ha change.

So you flunked metaphysics, huh?

-- 
montaigne


From montaigne at att.net  Fri Dec  6 18:54:30 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com>
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net> <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com>
Message-ID: <20021207025430.GF14198@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:34:41PM -0800, Not Erik wrote:

> Don't let the doorknob get inserted into your rectum on the way out.

Er...got lube?

-- 
montaigne


From montaigne at att.net  Fri Dec  6 20:15:06 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Krispy Kritturs Needed
Message-ID: <20021207041506.GG14198@localhost.localdomain>

Sign up now!:

http://iraqpeaceteam.org/pages/application.html

Canadians seem to have first dibs on the best spots inside Iraq!

-- 
montaigne


From joey at kitenet.net  Fri Dec  6 19:42:01 2002
From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SPATHI!
In-Reply-To: <20021206065247.GA7095@8ball.wox.org>
References: <20021206065247.GA7095@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <20021207034201.GA24507@dragon.kitenet.net>

Brian Danger Hicks wrote:
> backstory and I enjoyed the game immensely.  Eventually, I bought my
> first ever strategy guide and learned about the Doctrinal Conflict and
> destroyed the Sa Matra, saving the day.

Ha ha strategy guide.

> This brings us to the present day, when I was informed of the good
> people at http://sc2.sf.net  It's based off the 3do version, but my
> deluxe Hyperspace map with Quasispace insert is still good, and I get to
> threaten the Spathi, camp with the Orz, and make out with the Syreen all
> over again!

Yeah, but they didn't open source the code to the slylandro probe.

-- 
see shy jo
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From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Fri Dec  6 21:56:57 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SPATHI!
In-Reply-To: <20021207034201.GA24507@dragon.kitenet.net>
References: <20021206065247.GA7095@8ball.wox.org> <20021207034201.GA24507@dragon.kitenet.net>
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> > This brings us to the present day, when I was informed of the good
> > people at http://sc2.sf.net  It's based off the 3do version, but my
> > deluxe Hyperspace map with Quasispace insert is still good, and I get to
> > threaten the Spathi, camp with the Orz, and make out with the Syreen all
> > over again!
> 
> Yeah, but they didn't open source the code to the slylandro probe.

Look in lib/uqm/content/comm/slyhome/slyhome.txt


    IF (no current target).
    THEN (select New target from Current Targets list, using specified priorities).
    IF (Current Position is AT Current Target).
    THEN (Set Current Behavior to New Behavior, based on Behavior Priority Settings).
    PERFORM (Current Behavior).
Okay, that's the basic program... I said it was simple
and here are the tables used by the program.
    TARGET LIST (with associated Target Priority).
        Space Vessel (5).
        Transmission Source (4).
        Astronomical Anomaly (3).
        Planet Bearing Life Signature (2).
        Raw Replication Materials (1).
    PROBE BEHAVIORS (With assigned priorities).
        Communicate (5).
        Record Data (4).
        Analyze Data (3).
        Seek Replication Materials (999).
        Move to Current Target (1).


- -- 
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From joey at kitenet.net  Fri Dec  6 23:20:20 2002
From: joey at kitenet.net (Joey Hess)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SPATHI!
In-Reply-To: <20021207055657.GE7095@8ball.wox.org>
References: <20021206065247.GA7095@8ball.wox.org> <20021207034201.GA24507@dragon.kitenet.net> <20021207055657.GE7095@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <20021207072020.GA28419@dragon.kitenet.net>

Brian Danger Hicks wrote:
> Look in lib/uqm/content/comm/slyhome/slyhome.txt

    The content -- voiceovers, dialogue, graphics, and music -- are
    copyright (C) 1992, 1993, 2002 Toys for Bob, Inc. or their
    respective creators.  The content may be copied freely as part of
    a distribution of The Ur-Quan Masters.  All other rights are reserved.

For now anyhow.

-- 
see shy jo
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From montaigne at att.net  Sat Dec  7 10:07:35 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021207025430.GF14198@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net> <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com> <20021207025430.GF14198@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20021207180735.GH14198@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:54:30PM -0500, Michel de Montaigne wrote:

> Er...got lube?

It never fails! Just mention "lube" and discussion on this list folds up
like a cheap suit. Ha!

-- 
montaigne


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Sat Dec  7 14:08:21 2002
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Let's go!
Message-ID: <1039298901.3df271553510c@mail.spamcop.net>

http://www.ccc.de/congress/2002/

" The congress not only addresses the techno geek but also those who are
interested in appliances and aftermathes."

"aftermathes"?

-- 
Bob Bernstein
at
Esmond, Rhode Island
USA


From montaigne at att.net  Sat Dec  7 10:07:35 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021207025430.GF14198@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net> <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com> <20021207025430.GF14198@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20021207180735.GH14198@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:54:30PM -0500, Michel de Montaigne wrote:

> Er...got lube?

It never fails! Just mention "lube" and discussion on this list folds up
like a cheap suit. Ha!

-- 
montaigne


From squinky at dasbistro.com  Sun Dec  8 01:49:12 2002
From: squinky at dasbistro.com (Not Erik)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021207180735.GH14198@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net> <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com> <20021207025430.GF14198@localhost.localdomain> <20021207180735.GH14198@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20021208094912.GB22754@dasbistro.com>

On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 01:07:35PM -0500, Michel de Montaigne wrote:
> It never fails! Just mention "lube" and discussion on this list folds up
> like a cheap suit. Ha!

No, it's just that I'm the only person left who hasn't put you in
their twit filter.

-- 
not erik - squinky@dasbistro.com - http://www.dasbistro.com/~erik/


From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Sun Dec  8 07:39:14 2002
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] http://library-usability.org
Message-ID: <E18L3WU-0007ii-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

http://library-usability.org


From carton at Ivy.NET  Sun Dec  8 18:27:03 2002
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Squinky the Jiz Mopper
In-Reply-To: <20021208094912.GB22754@dasbistro.com>
 (Not Erik's message of "Sun, 8 Dec 2002 01:49:12 -0800")
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net>
 <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com>
 <20021207025430.GF14198@localhost.localdomain>
 <20021207180735.GH14198@localhost.localdomain>
 <20021208094912.GB22754@dasbistro.com>
Message-ID: <oqy970c4g8.fsf_-_@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "ne" == Not Erik <squinky@dasbistro.com> writes:

    ne> I'm the only person left who hasn't put you in their twit
    ne> filter.

yeah that's cool.  You should like, stop quoting him, though, because
I end up forced to jiz-mop his sticky self-stimulation dripping out of
your quoted text.


NYC 2600 is great.  It's sort of like band camp.  And if you ask any
woman how old she is, the answer is always, always ``eighteen.''
never less.  rarely more.  Weird, that.  It wasn't like that in
Boulder, believe it or not.  I swear to god I am going to start
xeroxing IDs.

I've taken to saying irc the way you say WinCE, not the usual
eye-Arr-see, because that's what it does to me.  I'm the only guy left
without irc.  and it's not because I never used irc on tsoft, you
know?  irc is on its way DOWN, man.

[SETTING:  2600 afterparty; Brooklyn, NY.

           A group has gathered here temporarily indoors to drink
           liquor.  Most are dressed in clothes that are inexpensive
           and designed to attract attention, but with minimal
           selectivity in what kind of attention and from whom it's
           attracted.  Some of these ``peeps'' sit in front of  3
           computer consoles.  Others are sitting on beds, couches,
           and floors.  One is incompetently throwing a 4" knife at
           the drywall.  The air is thick with cheap tobacco smoke and
           the tang of kinky sex and broken promises.

           there are  14  people here.
           there are some spent cardboard pizza boxes here.
           there is a mop bucket filled with a potable orange liquid here.
           there is a small throw-pillow here.]

carton: I think irc is fascist.

contrary 18-year-old girl: wait, wait a minute.  w.t.f.  Did you just
  say, ``fascist''?

carton: yes.

contrary 18-year-old girl: [silence]

unemployed goth OpenBSD sysadmin: I was on irc the other day, and
  [IMPROV, blah blah blah] stupid annoying asshole [IMPROV, blah].

[you hear the J train slowly crawling the elevated toward 
  Jamaica center.]

contrary 18-year-old girl: [silence]

carton: instead, we should use gale.

everyone: [silence]

carton: but I can't get it to work, myself.

carton: I think it's a bohem-gc/MIPS bug.  because---?ph

other 18-year-old girl: fuzzy pillow!  Attack of the fuzzy pillow!

[you hear the J train slowly crawling the elevated toward 
  the Williamsburg Bridge.]

-- 
c-th, c-th.
c-th, c-th.
c-th, c-th.
c-th.


From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec  8 22:10:38 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021209061038.GD10259@zork.net>

Go on.  Surprise me.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

rschumak@speakeasy.net has been successfully subscribed to
CrackMonkey.



----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From schoen at loyalty.org  Sun Dec  8 23:50:09 2002
From: schoen at loyalty.org (Seth David Schoen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] I am speechless.
In-Reply-To: <20021019062315.GN20811@zork.net>
References: <20021019062315.GN20811@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021209075009.GB16520@zork.net>

Nick Moffitt writes:

> ----- Forwarded message from "N. Thomas" <nthomas@cise.ufl.edu> -----
> 
> * Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> [2002-10-18 22:30:10 -0700]:
> > -- 
> > A: No.
> > Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
> 
> hi,
> 
> Please explain your .sig.
> 
> thanks,
> thomas
> 
> -- 
> N. Thomas
> nthomas@cise.ufl.edu
> Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----

So I know I'm two months late here, but your interlocutor's own .sig
(though not in Latin) happens to be the epigraph to Borges's eerie story
"Deutsches Requiem".

-- 
Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | Reading is a right, not a feature!
     http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/   |                 -- Kathryn Myronuk
     http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/     |


From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Mon Dec  9 06:12:18 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SPATHI!
In-Reply-To: <20021206065247.GA7095@8ball.wox.org> (Brian Danger Hicks's
 message of "Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:52:47 -0600")
References: <20021206065247.GA7095@8ball.wox.org>
Message-ID: <87lm2zb7st.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "BDH" == Brian Danger Hicks <hick0142@tc.umn.edu> writes:

    BDH> So, one time about ten years ago, my brother and I were over
    BDH> at a friend's house.  This friend was one of the few other
    BDH> kids we knew who had a computer, as his father also worked at
    BDH> IBM.  Anyway, when we were over at his house, he introduced
    BDH> us to this game where you got to chose from about a dozen
    BDH> different ships and fly around in 2D space shooting and
    BDH> coasting and such.  I was rather good at using the ship with
    BDH> the cloaking device and letting loose the flamethrower when
    BDH> the other ships got in range.  Enjoying this game, I inquired
    BDH> into its name so I could purchase a copy for myself.  "Star
    BDH> Control" it was called.

    BDH> A while later, I don't remember the exact scale, I was at the
    BDH> local Software Etc. and noticed they had a box in the bargan
    BDH> bin.  The cover featured an alien-looking hand attempting to
    BDH> grasp some points of light.  The title on the box said "Star
    BDH> Control" and I bought it.  After installing it on the family
    BDH> computer, I discovered that what I had played was merely the
    BDH> Melee function, and there was a whole strategy campaign where
    BDH> the Alliance of Free Stars battled the Ur-Quan Hierarchy for
    BDH> control of the cosmos, or something like that.  I wasn't
    BDH> really impressed with the campaigning, and so my brother and
    BDH> I played the melee on our old classic PC joysticks with the
    BDH> red and yellow square buttons.

    BDH> Years passed, and we played the melee less and less.  Then,
    BDH> on another excursion to our local Software Etc. I noticed a
    BDH> new box, "Star Control II".  This promised more ships which I
    BDH> could engage in a new "Super Melee".  I bought it, of course,
    BDH> and upon installation I found that the old strategy campaign
    BDH> mode had been replaced with what I would now categorize as a
    BDH> RPG.  The makers of the game had crafted an interesting
    BDH> backstory and I enjoyed the game immensely.  Eventually, I
    BDH> bought my first ever strategy guide and learned about the
    BDH> Doctrinal Conflict and destroyed the Sa Matra, saving the
    BDH> day.

    BDH> A few years more passed, and I discovered that Star Control
    BDH> III would be coming out.  After a few months wait, it was in
    BDH> stores and I bought it.  I eventually bought the strategy
    BDH> guide for this as well, and beat the game, but it wasn't as
    BDH> interesting, and they seemed to be running out of ideas for
    BDH> the new ships.

    BDH> Then, about a year or so ago, I was reminded of Star Control
    BDH> 2, and attempted to get it running on my laptop under bochs.
    BDH> Emulating a 386 was simple, getting sound and correct colors
    BDH> to work was not, however.  Eventually I gave up, meaning to
    BDH> try again.

    BDH> This brings us to the present day, when I was informed of the
    BDH> good people at http://sc2.sf.net It's based off the 3do
    BDH> version, but my deluxe Hyperspace map with Quasispace insert
    BDH> is still good, and I get to threaten the Spathi, camp with
    BDH> the Orz, and make out with the Syreen all over again!

    BDH> So, I suggest you all download and play, play, play!

Sylvia, take your meds.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Mon Dec  9 06:14:33 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] monkey knife fight
In-Reply-To: <20021205191419.GO21168@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince
 Regent of San Francisco's message of "Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:14:19 -0800")
References: <20021204083938.GA5685@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
	<87el8wyaao.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021205191419.GO21168@zork.net>
Message-ID: <87hednb7p2.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MMaPRoSF" == Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes:

    Me> P.S. Monkey knife fighting still has a long way to go before
    Me> it's ready for the enterprise.

    MMaPRoSF> 	Just wait until I release my NEW MONKEY KNIFE FIGHT
    MMaPRoSF> TWO POINT OH with pointy ears and a fake lowlands
    MMaPRoSF> accent!

The fact is that it's 2002, and I still can't take my Mom to a monkey
knife fight.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "Monkey knife fighters _are_ user-friendly. They're just
         particular about who they make friends with."



From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Mon Dec  9 06:15:35 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] well, i'm glad we finally got *that* out of the
 way
In-Reply-To: <20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain> (Michel de
 Montaigne's message of "Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:38:18 -0500")
References: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org>
	<20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <87d6obb7nc.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MdM" == Michel de Montaigne <montaigne@att.net> writes:

    MdM> ha ha Wired.

    MdM> No one reads Wired anymore.

The joke's on you, fanboy: W I R E D is so out, it's IN again!

Not reading W I R E D is _so_ 1999.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Mon Dec  9 06:16:49 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey
 unsubscribe notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com> (Not Erik's message of
 "Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:34:41 -0800")
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net>
	<20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com>
Message-ID: <878yyzb7la.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "NE" == Not Erik <squinky@dasbistro.com> writes:

    NE> Don't let the doorknob get inserted into your rectum on the
    NE> way out.

Talk about your graceless departures.

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu  Mon Dec  9 07:56:56 2002
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] monkey knife fight 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:14:33 +0100."
             <87hednb7p2.fsf@pigdog.org> 
References: <20021204083938.GA5685@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <87el8wyaao.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021205191419.GO21168@zork.net>
            <87hednb7p2.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <200212091556.gB9Fuu3J003756@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:14:33 +0100, Mister Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org>  said:

> The fact is that it's 2002, and I still can't take my Mom to a monkey
> knife fight.

You're gonna be waiting a lot longer than just 2002 before it will be
socially acceptable to have a family tree without branches.  Ewww.


From gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk  Mon Dec  9 09:00:39 2002
From: gilbertt at linuxbrit.co.uk (Tom Gilbert)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] monkey knife fight
In-Reply-To: <87hednb7p2.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <20021204083938.GA5685@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <87el8wyaao.fsf@pigdog.org> <20021205191419.GO21168@zork.net> <87hednb7p2.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021209170039.GI20143@fs.tomsflat>

* Mister Bad (mr.bad@pigdog.org) wrote:
> The fact is that it's 2002, and I still can't take my Mom to a monkey
> knife fight.

She's good with a knife then? Set one up, I'll back her all the way!

Tom.
-- 
By GAR, it is a shallenge: I will cut his troat in dee park; and I will
teach a scurvy jack-a-nape priest to meddle or make. You may be gone; it
is not good you tarry here. By GAR, I will cut all his two stones; by
GAR, he shall not have a stone to throw at his dog.


From jdub at perkypants.org  Mon Dec  9 09:49:54 2002
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Sneakums + Bowie
Message-ID: <20021209174954.GH1695@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>

 The End (Score:1)
 by Sneakums on Saturday October 30, @11:00AM (#1575458) (User #2534 Info)
 I don't like Revelation at all. If Bowie isn't doing the tiles anymore,
 this is the end of Propaganda for me.

Haw haw haw.

- Jeff

-- 
       "A rest with a fermata is the moral opposite of the fast food        
           restaurant with express lane." - James Gleick, Faster            


From dmarti at zgp.org  Mon Dec  9 10:12:23 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] well, i'm glad we finally got *that* out of the way
In-Reply-To: <87d6obb7nc.fsf@pigdog.org>
References: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org> <20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain> <87d6obb7nc.fsf@pigdog.org>
Message-ID: <20021209181222.GB10541@zgp.org>

begin Mr. Bad quotation of Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 03:15:35PM +0100:

> The joke's on you, fanboy: W I R E D is so out, it's IN again!
> 
> Not reading W I R E D is _so_ 1999.

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the Muggles!
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20021209.html

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Mon Dec  9 10:17:28 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] not available in stores!
Message-ID: <200212091317.28856.dep@linuxandmain.com>

http://www.storeharbor.com/lapd/default.html
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec  9 12:55:18 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021209205517.GG10259@zork.net>

Ha ha evolution and opera.

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

dale.thatcher@evolution.net has been removed from CrackMonkey.

ee@opera.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.


----- End forwarded message -----

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Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec  9 14:06:32 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] AOLism through perpetual revolution
Message-ID: <20021209220632.GJ10259@zork.net>

http://bourdrez.org/~atob/asli/

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From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec  9 15:03:48 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Found in someone's .sig
Message-ID: <20021209230348.GL10259@zork.net>

----- Forwarded message from Rolf Kulemann <kulemann@gmx.de> -----

The following quote is from page 4-27 of the MSCP Basic Disk Functions
Manual which is part of the UDA50 Programmers Doc Kit manuals:

As stated above, the host area of a disk is structured as a vector of
logical blocks.  From a performance viewpoint, however, it is more
appropriate to view the host area as a four dimensional hyper-cube, the
four dimensions being cylinder, group, track, and sector.
	. . .
Referring to our hyper-cube analogy, the set of potentially accessible
blocks form a line parallel to the track axis.  This line moves
parallel to the sector axis, wrapping around when it reaches the edge
of the hyper-cube.

----- End forwarded message -----

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From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Mon Dec  9 15:55:22 2002
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] well, i'm glad we finally got *that* out of the way
In-Reply-To: <20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain> (Michel de Montaigne's message of "Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:38:18 -0500")
References: <200212060945.53956.dep@linuxandmain.com> <20021206152128.GB7095@8ball.wox.org> <20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain> <20021206203818.GB14198@localhost.localdomain> (Michel de Montaigne's message of "Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:38:18 -0500")
Message-ID: <1039478122.3df52d6a52aeb@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Mister Bad <mr.bad@pigdog.org>:

> The joke's on you, fanboy: W I R E D is so out, it's IN again!

And, how very Lenny Bruce of you to say so!

-- 
Bob Bernstein
at
Esmond, Rhode Island
USA


From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec  9 16:19:49 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Photos Kissinger doesn't want you to see.
Message-ID: <20021210001949.GN10259@zork.net>

http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/kissinger-nose.htm

ewwww

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From jv at zork.net  Tue Dec 10 15:46:56 2002
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: ?Had Cannabis, Eden (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification])
In-Reply-To: <20021209205517.GG10259@zork.net>
References: <20021209205517.GG10259@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021210234656.GD20535@zork.net>

begin  Nick Moffitt quotation:

> Ha ha evolution and opera.

Ha ha... cannabis and everything:  

> dale.thatcher@evolution.net has been removed from CrackMonkey.

... [hempevolution.org]

> ee@opera.com has been removed from CrackMonkey.

... [www.pot-tv.net].  -jv... this is my brain on terror



From jesux at unix.tm  Tue Dec 10 18:02:25 2002
From: jesux at unix.tm (James Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Tabs Induced WASTE-Lands
Message-ID: <20021211130225.A4790@blackbird.intercode.com.au>

From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec 10 18:38:20 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:47 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Tabs Induced WASTE-Lands
In-Reply-To: <20021211130225.A4790@blackbird.intercode.com.au>
References: <20021211130225.A4790@blackbird.intercode.com.au>
Message-ID: <20021211023820.GD10259@zork.net>

begin  James Moffitt  quotation:
>    In Summation...
>        -  If you want to use tabs to the right of  the  code,
>           go-for-it.  But  PLEASE,  not  ever  in the C-source
>           code-space, thank-you- kindly.  Just use three little ol'
>           spaces (exactly 3,  no-more, no-less) where you WOULD have
>           stuck a stinkin' tab.

#-*- mode: Fundamental; tab-width: 3; -*-
# ex:ts=3

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Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From montaigne at att.net  Tue Dec 10 21:34:43 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Squinky the Jiz Mopper
In-Reply-To: <oqy970c4g8.fsf_-_@balthasar.nat>
References: <20021207002017.GG10259@zork.net> <20021207003441.GI28316@dasbistro.com> <20021207025430.GF14198@localhost.localdomain> <20021207180735.GH14198@localhost.localdomain> <20021208094912.GB22754@dasbistro.com> <oqy970c4g8.fsf_-_@balthasar.nat>
Message-ID: <20021211053443.GA9815@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 09:27:03PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote:

> You should like, stop quoting him, though, because
> I end up forced to jiz-mop his sticky self-stimulation dripping out of
> your quoted text.

You never minded mopping up before; so now what? The thrill is gone out of
our romance?

(And to think we used to relate on such a high level...all platonic and
shit.)

-- 
montaigne


From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec 10 23:30:09 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021211073009.GG10259@zork.net>

Ha ha MULTICS!

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

jaroslav@multicians.org has been successfully subscribed to
CrackMonkey.



----- End forwarded message -----

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From nick at zork.net  Wed Dec 11 02:10:14 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ha ha pr0n
Message-ID: <20021211101014.GM10259@zork.net>

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=171988

Looks like the "about" box had some pr0n pre-loaded!

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Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From christian.surchi at gmx.net  Wed Dec 11 05:28:07 2002
From: christian.surchi at gmx.net (Christian Surchi)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] ha ha pr0n
In-Reply-To: <20021211101014.GM10259@zork.net>
References: <20021211101014.GM10259@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021211132805.GF3365@mclink.it>

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 02:10:14AM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=171988
> 
> Looks like the "about" box had some pr0n pre-loaded!

Now it has only cactus pr0n!

-- 
www.debian.org - www.softwarelibero.it - www.firenze.linux.it 
Vax Vobiscum


From nick at zork.net  Wed Dec 11 12:10:58 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021211201058.GO10259@zork.net>

Anguilla was a failure!  Give up!

----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----

f00b4r@hush.ai has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey.



----- End forwarded message -----

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From f00b4r at hush.ai  Wed Dec 11 14:55:46 2002
From: f00b4r at hush.ai (f00b4r@hush.ai)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:10:58 -0800 Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> wrote:
>Anguilla was a failure!  Give up!
>
>----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----
>
>f00b4r@hush.ai has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey.
>
>
>
>----- End forwarded message -----
>

Fucking top-poster.
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=SmNP
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Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get
FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 

Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: 
https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Wed Dec 11 15:02:21 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com>
References: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com>
Message-ID: <20021211230221.GR10259@zork.net>

begin  f00b4r@hush.ai  quotation:
> Fucking top-poster.

	I guess in Anguilla they do GPG backward:

gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
gpg: BAD signature from "[?]"

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Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org  Wed Dec 11 15:07:27 2002
From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription
 notification]
In-Reply-To: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com>
Message-ID: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0212111505450.14378-100000@vax.hanford.org>

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, f00b4r@hush.ai wrote:

> Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program:
> https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427

MMF BIG $$$!!!! This is not a H04X.  s00n U w1ll b b1g p1mp1ng y0




From hick0142 at tc.umn.edu  Wed Dec 11 15:13:14 2002
From: hick0142 at tc.umn.edu (Brian Danger Hicks)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021211230221.GR10259@zork.net>
References: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com> <20021211230221.GR10259@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021211231314.GA5184@8ball.wox.org>

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commence  Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco  quotation:
> begin  f00b4r@hush.ai  quotation:
> > Fucking top-poster.
> 
> 	I guess in Anguilla they do GPG backward:
> 
> gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
> gpg: BAD signature from "[?]"

To this I would just like to add the following:

Ha ha, Hushmail.

- -- 
Brian Hicks               <mailto:hick0142@tc.umn.edu>
   <http://eight.dhs.org> <ham:KC0OIH> <PGP:0xADDD1F16>
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From jv at zork.net  Wed Dec 11 15:48:23 2002
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: Fucking euphemist (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification])
In-Reply-To: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com>
References: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com>
Message-ID: <20021211234823.GD2480@zork.net>

begin  f00b4r@hush.ai quotation:

> On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:10:58 -0800 Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> wrote:
> >Anguilla was a failure!  Give up!
> >----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----
> >f00b4r@hush.ai has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey.
> >----- End forwarded message -----

> Fucking top-poster.

Fucking nit-wit... hush, fubar.  -jv

---
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Q:  ?Commentary leading forwarded text different from reply leading quote.   



From aelmore at interwoven.com  Wed Dec 11 15:05:18 2002
From: aelmore at interwoven.com (Andrew Elmore)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com>
References: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com>
Message-ID: <20021211230518.GM296@interwoven.com>

Consistency is the balrog of weak minds.

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 02:55:46PM -0800, f00b4r@hush.ai wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:10:58 -0800 Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> wrote:
> >Anguilla was a failure!  Give up!
> >
> >----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----
> >
> >f00b4r@hush.ai has been successfully subscribed to CrackMonkey.
> >
> >
> >
> >----- End forwarded message -----
> >
> 
> Fucking top-poster.
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Consistency is the balrog of weak minds.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Wed Dec 11 16:31:32 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021211230518.GM296@interwoven.com>
References: <200212112255.gBBMtkKM001254@mailserver2.hushmail.com> <20021211230518.GM296@interwoven.com>
Message-ID: <20021212003131.GV10259@zork.net>

begin  Andrew Elmore  quotation:
> Consistency is the balrog of weak minds.

	This is an obvious non-sequitur troll, but of course I
top-post *forwards*.  I'm creating an introduction for previously
unseen material, instead of responding and quoting for context.

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From tduffy at directvinternet.com  Thu Dec 12 17:38:42 2002
From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Tom Duffy)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] not available in stores!
In-Reply-To: <200212091317.28856.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <200212091317.28856.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <1039743521.8269.50.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com>

On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 10:17, dep wrote:
> http://www.storeharbor.com/lapd/default.html

Does it come with a Rodney King accessory?

-tduffy

-- 
YOO-ESS-AYE! YOO-ESS-AYE!



From tduffy at directvinternet.com  Thu Dec 12 18:04:10 2002
From: tduffy at directvinternet.com (Tom Duffy)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 5
	December 2002]
In-Reply-To: <200212061733.55905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
References: <20021206172758.GD1822@zgp.org> <E18KQuQ-0005Vf-00@eris.void.at>
 <200212061733.55905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
Message-ID: <1039745049.14962.4.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com>

> begin  Andreas Fuchs's  quote:
                 ^^^^^^^
> | dict instead
> 
> of pussied.

what an unfortunate last name for this post...

-tduffy

-- 
YOO-ESS-AYE! YOO-ESS-AYE!



From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Thu Dec 12 18:37:43 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] not available in stores!
In-Reply-To: <1039743521.8269.50.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com>
References: <200212091317.28856.dep@linuxandmain.com> <1039743521.8269.50.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <20021213023743.GG21730@zork.net>

begin  Tom Duffy  quotation:
> On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 10:17, dep wrote:
> > http://www.storeharbor.com/lapd/default.html
> 
> Does it come with a Rodney King accessory?

l0lz 
kthxbi!

	hi, asl

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From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Fri Dec 13 00:59:17 2002
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] 537 degrees Fahrenheit / 281 degrees Celsius
Message-ID: <E18MlfB-0001zV-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

Sent To: cecil@chicagoreader.com
Straight Dope Message Board
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150076


The numbers lack randomness.

ABCNews World News Now National Temperature Index does follow a
pattern that makes sense rising and falling with the seasons.

It must be calculated in some manner or it wouldn't rise and fall
so relatively well.

Somebody actually does calculate and gives the numbers out to whomever
puts the numbers up on the screen. So, the question is who's actually
the source of the numbers and precisely how does he or she get those
numbers that do actually appear to have some relative relationship to
temperature readings.





Exactly, who?... at ABC or for ABC calculated the numbers
537 degrees Fahrenheit / 281 degrees Celsius
for the ABCNews World News Now National Temperature Index?...


3:35am, 4:05 EDT broadcasts on WCVB-TV Needham Boston Channel 5
ABCNews World News Now National
Temperature Index

fri dec 13
537 degrees Fahrenheit / 281 degrees Celsius

wed dec 11
510 degrees Fahrenheit / 266 degrees Celsius

mon dec 9
494 degrees Fahrenheit / 257 degrees Celsius

fri dec 6 
501 degrees Fahrenheit / 261 degrees Celsius

thurs dec 5
469 degrees Fahrenheit / 243 degrees Celsius



a. In detail, how did he make the calculation?...


b. Precisely, what cities were used?...




Speculative information
Some of the ideas people have come up with so far,
for example
[ http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=temperature%20index&safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&lr=&as_scoring=d&hl=en ]

[ http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=temperature+index&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=m3&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=off ]

[ http://images.google.com/images?q=+%22temperature+index%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&as_qdr=m3&sa=N&tab=wi ]

[ http://wnn.abcnews.com ]

[ http://listserv.dom.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S2=stumpers-l&L=STUMPERS-L&q=fahrenheit&s=&f=&a=1+December+2002&b=9+December+2002 ]


Straight Dope Message Board
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150076


From nick at zork.net  Fri Dec 13 18:14:47 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Schadenfreude for the ABM crowd
Message-ID: <20021214021447.GL21730@zork.net>

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/99595_software12.shtml

	Ha ha .NET

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From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org  Fri Dec 13 20:27:05 2002
From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Schadenfreude for the ABM crowd
In-Reply-To: <20021214021447.GL21730@zork.net>
Message-ID: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0212132026550.18682-100000@vax.hanford.org>

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Nick Moffitt wrote:

> 	Ha ha .NET

.NET is lovely




From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Fri Dec 13 22:26:11 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Schadenfreude for the ABM crowd
In-Reply-To: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0212132026550.18682-100000@vax.hanford.org>
References: <20021214021447.GL21730@zork.net> <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0212132026550.18682-100000@vax.hanford.org>
Message-ID: <20021214062611.GP21730@zork.net>

begin  #2 of Berkeley  quotation:
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Nick Moffitt wrote:
> > 	Ha ha .NET
> 
> .NET is lovely

	Do you mean .NET, or do you mean "The .NET framework", or do
you mean "passport and some press releases" or what?  I can't even
figure out what the hell it's supposed to BE.

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Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From nick at zork.net  Fri Dec 13 23:23:30 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] PLEASE EXPLAIN THE JAPANESE
Message-ID: <20021214072330.GR21730@zork.net>

http://www.chax.net/gloomy5.html

	Thanks.

-- 
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Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From joe at barrera.org  Sat Dec 14 04:27:01 2002
From: joe at barrera.org (Joseph S. Barrera III)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Schadenfreude for the ABM crowd
Message-ID: <3DFB2395.5040001@barrera.org>


Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:

>	Do you mean .NET, or do you mean "The .NET framework", or do
>you mean "passport and some press releases" or what?  I can't even
>figure out what the hell it's supposed to BE.

.NET is OLE 4.
.NET is DDE on PCP.





From dep at linuxandmain.com  Sat Dec 14 04:52:39 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Schadenfreude for the ABM crowd
In-Reply-To: <20021214062611.GP21730@zork.net>
References: <20021214021447.GL21730@zork.net> <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0212132026550.18682-100000@vax.hanford.org> <20021214062611.GP21730@zork.net>
Message-ID: <200212140752.39292.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco's  quote:
| begin  #2 of Berkeley  quotation:
| > On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Nick Moffitt wrote:
| > > 	Ha ha .NET
| >
| > .NET is lovely
|
| 	Do you mean .NET, or do you mean "The .NET framework", or do
| you mean "passport and some press releases" or what?  I can't even
| figure out what the hell it's supposed to BE.

bo, BE is from an entirely different company. .NET is a microsoft 
thing. dunno what it does, though.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From jesux at unix.tm  Sat Dec 14 08:00:25 2002
From: jesux at unix.tm (James Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Primordial Hipness
Message-ID: <20021215030024.A25121@blackbird.intercode.com.au>

Best description of BSD EVER.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:56:27 -0600
From: Mike Shaw <mshaw@wwisp.com>
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: What is OpenBSD ?

At 08:35 AM 12/14/2002 +1100, jonathan michaels wrote:

>take care and remember you could have been me but for a few genes or an
>"accident" of birth.
>
>retarded and proud

Please understand I'm not making fun or being insensitive...

...but my goodness...If I didn't use OpenBSD, I would subscribe to this 
list just for it's over-the-top moments.  Linux Shminux.  Free, Functional, 
Secure, and Freakin' Funny as heck.

The complaints about satanic daemons,
The accusations of racism vs. terrorist spam,
And now an impromptu manifesto for the differently abled.

This community is as close as a guy like me can get to hangin' in the 
primordial hipness of the eccentric hacker communities in the 60's and 
70's.  Please don't ever go away.

-Mike

----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
James Moffitt.

         <a href="http://gforge.org/">sourceforge</a>


                      \ Tabs Induced / 

                      + WASTE-Lands! +

                      + Not a Living +

                      + line-of-code +

                      / To Be Found! \



From unknown at panax.com  Sat Dec 14 13:14:12 2002
From: unknown at panax.com (Patrick McFarland)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Schadenfreude for the ABM crowd
In-Reply-To: <3DFB2395.5040001@barrera.org>
References: <3DFB2395.5040001@barrera.org>
Message-ID: <20021214211412.GA500@panax.com>

On 14-Dec-2002, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
> .NET is OLE 4.
> .NET is DDE on PCP.
 
Hrm...
PHP is Perl with its gonads cut off.


-- 
Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd 
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." --Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
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From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Sun Dec 15 00:28:48 2002
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] forum
Message-ID: <E18NU8m-00031z-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

I just started a discussion forum at QuickTopic for our topic
Guide to Problematical Boston Public Library Use.
To join in or just to read use your web browser to go to
http://www.quicktopic.com/18/H/LvNZqHdLNB8

You don't have to register or sign in,
and you can choose to receive email for newly posted messages
just click the Subscribe button when you get there.
QuickTopic is a free, extremely easy discussion space.
You can start your own topic or document review in about 20 seconds
by visiting:
http://www.quicktopic.com


From asf at void.at  Sun Dec 15 02:01:43 2002
From: asf at void.at (Andreas Fuchs)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [owen@ditherati.net: D I T H E R A T I for 5
 December 2002]
References: <20021206172758.GD1822@zgp.org> <E18KQuQ-0005Vf-00@eris.void.at>
	<200212061733.55905.dep@linuxandmain.com>
	<1039745049.14962.4.camel@repaper.eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <E18NVah-0000kG-00@eris.void.at>

On 2002-12-12, Tom Duffy <tduffy@directvinternet.com> wrote:
                   ^^^^^
>> begin  Andreas Fuchs's  quote:
>                  ^^^^^^^
>> | dict instead
>> 
>> of pussied.
> 
> what an unfortunate last name for this post...

Tragic. I feel that I must duck for cover now.

-- 
Andreas Fuchs, <asf@acm.org>, asf@jabber.at, antifuchs


From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org  Sun Dec 15 09:54:53 2002
From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Schadenfreude for the ABM crowd
In-Reply-To: <20021214062611.GP21730@zork.net>
Message-ID: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0212150954210.29060-100000@vax.hanford.org>

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:

> 	Do you mean .NET, or do you mean "The .NET framework", or do
> you mean "passport and some press releases" or what?  I can't even
> figure out what the hell it's supposed to BE.

.NET is all your greatest dreams coming true, except for the part about
Princess Leia.



From mikael at pawlo.com  Sun Dec 15 15:35:41 2002
From: mikael at pawlo.com (Mikael Pawlo)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Me and my dog
Message-ID: <v0300780bba22c1daff9d@[10.0.1.2]>

Heard on the Internet, Northern Hemisphere today:

Patrik Wallstrom: For a second, I thought your email was a cron job.

Mikael Pawlo: Well, how do you know this is not my dog writing?

Patrik Wallstrom: Because my dog is smarter than yours!


_________________________________________________________________________

  ICQ:35638414                              mailto:mikael@pawlo.com
  +46-704-215825                              http://www.pawlo.com/




From adam at flounder.net  Sun Dec 15 16:19:00 2002
From: adam at flounder.net (Adam McKenna)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Me and my dog
In-Reply-To: <v0300780bba22c1daff9d@[10.0.1.2]>
References: <v0300780bba22c1daff9d@[10.0.1.2]>
Message-ID: <20021216001900.GP18024@flounder.net>

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:35:41AM +0100, Mikael Pawlo wrote:
> 
> Heard on the Internet, Northern Hemisphere today:
> 
> Patrik Wallstrom: For a second, I thought your email was a cron job.
> 
> Mikael Pawlo: Well, how do you know this is not my dog writing?
> 
> Patrik Wallstrom: Because my dog is smarter than yours!

OH MY GOD THAT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!! LOL!!@# ROFLMAO!~!!!@#!@#%%%


From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec 15 18:39:40 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TOP TEN
Message-ID: <20021216023940.GV21730@zork.net>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64420-2002Aug9?language=printer
> There's nothing like abundance to reveal repetition, and there's an
> astonishing abundance of cultural criticism these days -- in
> magazines and newspapers, on Web sites and blogs, even (if you cast
> a broad net) on television. High demand has led to mass production,
> with a few basic archetypes of the cultural essay dominating the
> field. If you removed the five or 10 most abused forms of criticism,
> there would be a deafening silence. Or perhaps room for other kinds
> of commentary to grow. Some basic archetypes of the form, or
> Cultural Commentary in 10 Easy Lessons:

My personal favorites are the "THERE ARE PEOPLE STARVING IN AFRICA"
and "The Revival".

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From carlos at laviola.org  Sun Dec 15 20:29:18 2002
From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Me and my dog
In-Reply-To: <20021216001900.GP18024@flounder.net>
References: <v0300780bba22c1daff9d@[10.0.1.2]> <20021216001900.GP18024@flounder.net>
Message-ID: <20021216042918.GA12646@laviola.org>

On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 04:19:00PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:35:41AM +0100, Mikael Pawlo wrote:
> > 
> > Heard on the Internet, Northern Hemisphere today:
> > 
> > Patrik Wallstrom: For a second, I thought your email was a cron job.
> > 
> > Mikael Pawlo: Well, how do you know this is not my dog writing?
> > 
> > Patrik Wallstrom: Because my dog is smarter than yours!
> 
> OH MY GOD THAT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY!! LOL!!@# ROFLMAO!~!!!@#!@#%%%

Humourless DJB fanboy.

-- 
Carlos Laviola <carlos@laviola.org>


From adam at flounder.net  Mon Dec 16 00:40:51 2002
From: adam at flounder.net (Adam McKenna)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Me and my dog
In-Reply-To: <20021216042918.GA12646@laviola.org>
References: <v0300780bba22c1daff9d@[10.0.1.2]> <20021216001900.GP18024@flounder.net> <20021216042918.GA12646@laviola.org>
Message-ID: <20021216084051.GD17414@flounder.net>

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 02:29:18AM -0200, Carlos Laviola wrote:
> Humourless DJB fanboy.

Carlos, you devil!  You were lying in wait, for weeks, just waiting for 
me to post again so you could ROAST me with your razor sharp wit!  And 
you have succeeded my friend!

Hats off to Mr. Laviola, boys, for a hand well played!  Drinks are on me
tonight!


From claviola at ax.net.br  Mon Dec 16 07:29:51 2002
From: claviola at ax.net.br (Carlos Laviola)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Me and my dog
In-Reply-To: <20021216084051.GD17414@flounder.net>
References: <v0300780bba22c1daff9d@[10.0.1.2]> <20021216001900.GP18024@flounder.net> <20021216042918.GA12646@laviola.org> <20021216084051.GD17414@flounder.net>
Message-ID: <20021216152951.GA1241@alternex.com.br>

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:40:51AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 02:29:18AM -0200, Carlos Laviola wrote:
> > Humourless DJB fanboy.
> 
> Carlos, you devil!  You were lying in wait, for weeks, just waiting for 
> me to post again so you could ROAST me with your razor sharp wit!  And 
Message-ID: <20021204121008.GA1345@laviola.org>

> you have succeeded my friend!

ohah

> Hats off to Mr. Laviola, boys, for a hand well played!  Drinks are on me
> tonight!

Can you ship overseas?

-- 
Carlos Laviola <claviola@ax.net.br>
AlterNex S/A - (21) 2515-0500


From leklund at tastytronic.net  Mon Dec 16 07:33:40 2002
From: leklund at tastytronic.net (Lukas Eklund)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TOP TEN
In-Reply-To: <20021216023940.GV21730@zork.net>
References: <20021216023940.GV21730@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021216153340.GL20740@tastytronic.net>

Quoting Nick Moffitt:
> My personal favorites are the "THERE ARE PEOPLE STARVING IN AFRICA"
> and "The Revival".

I hear bowling is popular in the inner city.

-- 
Lukas Eklund
leklund@tastytronic.net


From jordanb at hafd.org  Mon Dec 16 08:17:26 2002
From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TOP TEN
In-Reply-To: <20021216153340.GL20740@tastytronic.net>
References: <20021216023940.GV21730@zork.net>
        <20021216153340.GL20740@tastytronic.net>
Message-ID: <32356.163.191.47.226.1040055446.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org>

Lukas Eklund said:
> I hear bowling is popular in the inner city.

With all of those starving people in Africa, how can you care?

-- 
Jordan Bettis <http://www.hafd.org/~jordanb>
This message has been written using my webmail system.




From jeremym at loonix.org  Mon Dec 16 09:38:33 2002
From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TOP TEN
In-Reply-To: <32356.163.191.47.226.1040055446.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org>
References: <20021216023940.GV21730@zork.net> <20021216153340.GL20740@tastytronic.net> <32356.163.191.47.226.1040055446.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org>
Message-ID: <20021216173833.GF26166@pug.chroot.net>

On Mon Dec 16, 2002 at 10:17:26AM -0600, Jordan Bettis wrote:
> Lukas Eklund said:
> > I hear bowling is popular in the inner city.
> 
> With all of those starving people in Africa, how can you care?

There are people in Africa?  I thought they all got run out.

Things would have been so much better in South Africa if Strom Thurmond
had been President instead of Nelson Mandela.

-- 
Jeremy McLeod
jeremym@loonix.org


From crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org  Mon Dec 16 10:13:26 2002
From: crackdonkey at donkeyshow.org (#2 of Berkeley)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TOP TEN
In-Reply-To: <20021216173833.GF26166@pug.chroot.net>
Message-ID: <P1n3R3wlz.4.33.0212161012590.7424-100000@vax.hanford.org>

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Jeremy McLeod wrote:

> Things would have been so much better in South Africa if Strom Thurmond
> had been President instead of Nelson Mandela.

Strom Thurmond is a talentless hack.

Orange dicks are sweeping the nation.




From carton at Ivy.NET  Mon Dec 16 14:35:46 2002
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] TOP TEN
In-Reply-To: <20021216173833.GF26166@pug.chroot.net>
 (Jeremy McLeod's message of "Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:38:33 -0500")
References: <20021216023940.GV21730@zork.net>
 <20021216153340.GL20740@tastytronic.net>
 <32356.163.191.47.226.1040055446.squirrel@trillian.hafd.org>
 <20021216173833.GF26166@pug.chroot.net>
Message-ID: <oqadj5zj5p.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "jm" == Jeremy McLeod <jeremym@loonix.org> writes:

    jm> Things would have been so much better in South Africa if 

WELCOME TO THE KRAUTSPHERE.

-- 
Ignorance is always brave.


From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec 17 00:58:28 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021217085828.GL14400@zork.net>

Do us all a favor and unsubscribe now.  This list sucks goats lately,
and you won't be helping any.

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From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec 17 10:55:44 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021217185544.GN14400@zork.net>

Denied.

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From jv at zork.net  Tue Dec 17 12:45:05 2002
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:48 2005
Subject: : [!CrackMonkey!] PLEASE EXPLAIN THE JAPANESE
In-Reply-To: <20021214072330.GR21730@zork.net>
References: <20021214072330.GR21730@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021217204505.GC1086@zork.net>

begin  Nick Moffitt quotation:
> http://www.chax.net/gloomy5.html

[http://www.chax.net/hizageri.html].  !Animate All GIFs.  -jv  



From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Tue Dec 17 15:11:41 2002
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] How to view online a .doc link converted to html without making a file on the computer locally.
Message-ID: <E18OQsH-00087p-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

Would there be online a mechanism where you give a .doc URL and
view the URL as html ?...

Google does it sometimes but didn't work for the link at
http://www.bpl.org/mbln/MBLNRFI.doc

Alternately, how would you forward a .doc URL to a yahoo account?...
Yahoo sometimes will display it without making a file on the computer locally.


From rick at linuxmafia.com  Tue Dec 17 17:29:11 2002
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] How to view online a .doc link converted to html without making a file on the computer locally.
In-Reply-To: <E18OQsH-00087p-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>
References: <E18OQsH-00087p-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <20021218012911.GB8679@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting Don Saklad (dsaklad@zurich.ai.mit.edu):

> Would there be online a mechanism where you give a .doc URL and
> view the URL as html ?...

Why bother?  Has wvHtml suddenly stopped working?




From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Dec 17 18:47:41 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] How to view online a .doc link converted to html without making a file on the computer locally.
In-Reply-To: <20021218012911.GB8679@linuxmafia.com>
References: <E18OQsH-00087p-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu> <20021218012911.GB8679@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <20021218024741.GG19258@zgp.org>

begin Rick Moen quotation of Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 05:29:11PM -0800:

> Quoting Don Saklad (dsaklad@zurich.ai.mit.edu):
> 
> > Would there be online a mechanism where you give a .doc URL and
> > view the URL as html ?...
> 
> Why bother?  Has wvHtml suddenly stopped working?

The number one "resume.doc" on Google is:

http://www.contractmcse.com/resumes/resume.doc

Search Google for that URL, and you get a "View as HTML" link,
which comes out of Google cache, not the original site -- so (1)
the server is probably faster and more reliable and (2) only the
HTML, not the entire original MS file, has to make the trip to you.

-- 
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti
dmarti@zgp.org
KG6INA


From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec 17 21:12:44 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021218051244.GA11175@zork.net>

He posted without subscribing.  Now maybe he thinks that subscribing
will help.  We'll see.

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From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec 17 22:36:20 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021218063620.GB11175@zork.net>

fucking wandas.

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From nick at zork.net  Wed Dec 18 20:25:40 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021219042540.GG11175@zork.net>

Fuck off.

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From mail4hh at pobox.com  Wed Dec 18 21:54:09 2002
From: mail4hh at pobox.com (Mail4Me)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Come and Get Me
Message-ID: <20021219055238.XJLZ6027.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@[207.6.36.168]>

It's so quiet in here, that I figure I should
throw a stick onto the fire:

If you believe in god, it's because of the devil.

H



From dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu  Thu Dec 19 02:31:46 2002
From: dsaklad at zurich.ai.mit.edu (Don Saklad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Of interest http://trainedmonkey.com/
Message-ID: <E18Oxxy-0000GO-00@nestle.ai.mit.edu>

Of interest
http://trainedmonkey.com/





cheer and season's greetings,
 oo__  don@saklad.org

http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories


From mrbad at sqrat.pighaven.org  Thu Dec 19 09:43:43 2002
From: mrbad at sqrat.pighaven.org (Mr. Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] That Time Again
Message-ID: <20021219174343.28127.qmail@mail.pighaven.org>

Beaujolais!

http://www.pigdog.org/auto/sappy_christmas_shit/shortfeature/2754.html

~Mr. Bad


From dmarti at zgp.org  Thu Dec 19 12:20:11 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] That Time Again
In-Reply-To: <20021219174343.28127.qmail@mail.pighaven.org>
References: <20021219174343.28127.qmail@mail.pighaven.org>
Message-ID: <20021219202011.GD22203@zgp.org>

begin Mr. Bad quotation of Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 05:43:43PM -0000:

> Beaujolais!
> 
> http://www.pigdog.org/auto/sappy_christmas_shit/shortfeature/2754.html

Double Beaujolais!


Jury Rejects DMCA. Freedom Lovers Party.

On Saturday, December 21, 2002, freedom-loving
people will have a party in San Francisco to
celebrate a total acquital in the first criminal
prosecution under the controversial Digital
Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

The "not guilty" verdict in the trial of Russian
software company Elcomsoft clearly shows that
Americans do not accept attacks on legitimate fair
use in the name of copyright.  Elcomsoft made no
illegal copies of anything. Their software simply
provided for converting proprietary, restricted
"e-books" to open formats.

To quote the jury foreman, Dennis Strader, "Under
the eBook formats, you have no rights at all,
and the jury had trouble with that concept."

We The People have spoken: It's time to bring
moderation and sanity back to copyright law.

Who:   Freedom-loving people (that's you)

What:  Party to celebrate the Elcomsoft verdict

Where: Electronic Frontier Foundation
       454 Shotwell Street
       San Francisco CA 94110-1914 USA

When:  Saturday, December 21, 2002, 8:00 PM

Why:   DMCA reform isn't just about computer
       programmers any more.  12 randomly chosen
       American people say the DMCA has gone
       too far.

Contact: Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> 
         650-967-1840




From ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca  Thu Dec 19 12:26:38 2002
From: ebourg at cs.mcgill.ca (Erik Bourget)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: : [!CrackMonkey!] PLEASE EXPLAIN THE JAPANESE
In-Reply-To: <20021217204505.GC1086@zork.net>
References: <20021214072330.GR21730@zork.net> <20021217204505.GC1086@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021219202638.GB4723@mjollnir.odinnet>

On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:45:05PM -0800, Juggler Vain wrote:
> begin  Nick Moffitt quotation:
> > http://www.chax.net/gloomy5.html
> 
> [http://www.chax.net/hizageri.html].  !Animate All GIFs.  -jv  
> 

Don't worry, there ARE paths which the kid survives.  Don't blame the
Japanese if you chose to wander into the jaws of the pink thing.

-- 
       erik bourget  | "emacs outshines all other editing software in
ebourg@cs.mcgill.ca  |  approximately the same way that the noonday sun
---------------------/  does the stars. It is not just bigger and 
   brighter; it simply makes everything else vanish." - Neal Stephenson


From nick at zork.net  Thu Dec 19 15:14:44 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] The Beer Fairy
Message-ID: <20021219231444.GR11175@zork.net>

http://www.ingram.co.jp/inter/newchara/new61.html
> I hope Beer chan be loved by everyone !!  It can be going to be a
> favorite of your beer lover father !?

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From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Fri Dec 20 02:15:02 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Come and Get Me
In-Reply-To: <20021219055238.XJLZ6027.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@[207.6.36.168]> (Mail4Me's
 message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:54:09 -0700")
References: <20021219055238.XJLZ6027.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@[207.6.36.168]>
Message-ID: <873cotdmjd.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "M" == Mail4Me  <mail4hh@pobox.com> writes:

    M> It's so quiet in here, that I figure I should throw a stick
    M> onto the fire:

    M> If you believe in god, it's because of the devil.

I find your provocative ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe
to your newsletter.

~Mr. Bad

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From nick at zork.net  Fri Dec 20 13:31:44 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021220213144.GF12443@zork.net>

Ha ha pobox.

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From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec 22 14:31:07 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GARNOME 0.19.5: "Intergalactic War"
Message-ID: <20021222223107.GO12443@zork.net>

Brilliant release announcement!  Monkeys take note!

----- Forwarded message from Jeff Waugh <jdub@perkypants.org> -----

GARNOME 0.19.5: "Intergalactic War"
===================================

GARNOME - the bad-ass, bleeding edge GNOME distribution for testers
and tweakers everywhere. If you're dying to test the latest GNOME
development releases, but don't want to fall into the depraved
addictions and co-dependencies of testing from anonymous CVS, then
GARNOME is for you.

[ In other words, GARNOME is a build tool for GNOME which includes the
developer platform and desktop releases, as well as a host of other
kickarse software. Everything is as easy to build as 'make install'.
We call it a 'distribution' because it's sanity-tested and often
patched before release, for your convenience, enjoyment and testing
pleasure! ;-) ]


Random
------

  <jdub> fifty-seven-million people ask me every day when garnome is going
         to be released
  <jdub> on every possible medium
  <jdub> seriously
  <jdub> it's insane
  <jdub> my friends phone me:
  <jdub> "dude, when is the next garnome coming out?"
  <jdub> email
  <jdub> personal, *and* on mailing lists
  <jdub> gnomedesktop.org
  <jdub> slashdot
  <jdub> irc...
  <jdub> "dude, when is the next garnome coming out?"
  <jdub> i got a fucking fax the other day:
  <jdub> "dude, when is the next garnome coming out?"
  <jdub> I DON'T EVEN *HAVE* A FAX MACHINE!
  <jdub> i fully expect a UFO to land in my very small backyard one day
  <jdub> and a little green man to walk out
  <jdub> and say
  <jdub> "dude, when is the next garnome coming out?"
  <jdub> and i swear to god
  <jdub> i will start an intergalactic war
  <jdub> after kicking the crap out of said little green man


What's New?
-----------

  * Updated to GNOME 2.1.5 unstable development release, and lots of other
    stuff.
  
  * This changelog has been intentionally left lame [ run a diff or
    something, I just want to get this sucker out ;-) ].


Where Do I Get It?
------------------

The tarball and documentation [1] are available on the GARNOME website:

  http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/


Enjoy! :-)

- Jeff

[1] People who don't read the documentation tend to look pretty silly on
garnome-list and in #garnome.

-- 
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                       heart as never to express it.                        
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garnome-list@gnome.org
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From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec 22 14:36:27 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [monkeywire] Man given 57 days jail over monkeys in trousers
Message-ID: <20021222223627.GQ12443@zork.net>

----- Forwarded message from gregory nahas <lettherebemonkeys@yahoo.com> -----

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_731345.html?menu=news.quirkies

Man given 57 days jail over monkeys in trousers 

A man who smuggled a pair of endangered pygmy monkeys into the US in
his trousers, has been sentenced to 57 days in jail.

Robert John Cusack was also found to be carrying four endangered birds
of paradise and 50 protected orchids Los Angeles International Airport
on June 13.

He'd arrived in the country from Thailand.

The 45-year-old has pleaded guilty to smuggling the tiny monkeys and
was sentenced to 57 days in jail - time already served.

He has been ordered to donate more than ?7,000 to a Texas facility for
primates and to pay more than ?1,800 for the primates' board while
quarantined.

The Los Angeles Times says the stubby-tailed creatures are now in the
nursery at Los Angeles Zoo.

Story filed: 11:03 Friday 20th December 2002

__ 
The #1 source for news about monkeys and apes http://www.monkeywire.org


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From jdub at perkypants.org  Sun Dec 22 14:51:27 2002
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GARNOME 0.19.5: "Intergalactic War"
In-Reply-To: <20021222223107.GO12443@zork.net>
References: <20021222223107.GO12443@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021222225127.GD10635@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>

<quote who="Nick Moffitt">

> Brilliant release announcement!  Monkeys take note!

Dude, I'm like, totally honoured and shit.

- Jeff

-- 
    "Not to mention that there's simply no way to explain what a 'window    
   manager' is without descending into 'PC Load Letter?!' technobabble."    
                             - Havoc Pennington                             


From pgl at yoyo.org  Sun Dec 22 16:01:53 2002
From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GARNOME 0.19.5: "Intergalactic War"
In-Reply-To: <20021222223107.GO12443@zork.net>
References: <20021222223107.GO12443@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021223000153.GA23475@yoyo.org>

On Dec 22, Nick Moffitt wrote:
> ----- Forwarded message from Jeff Waugh <jdub@perkypants.org> -----

...

> GARNOME - the bad-ass, bleeding edge GNOME distribution for testers

...

> kickarse software.

I sense an inconsistency in the force.

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From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec 22 21:23:22 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021223052322.GW12443@zork.net>

\/\/hatever.

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From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec 22 23:35:57 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Beaujolais 2002
Message-ID: <20021223073557.GY12443@zork.net>

http://homepage.mac.com/dsneddon/PhotoAlbum7.html

Man, you all missed a great Beaujolais night, even though 2001 was
better.

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From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec 23 00:08:33 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021223080833.GZ12443@zork.net>

You know, I forget which filter this guy's mail hit first.

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From thaytan at mad.scientist.com  Mon Dec 23 02:21:29 2002
From: thaytan at mad.scientist.com (Jan Schmidt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GARNOME 0.19.5: "Intergalactic War"
In-Reply-To: <20021222223107.GO12443@zork.net>
References: <20021222223107.GO12443@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021223102129.GA19175@oven>

<quote who="Nick Moffitt">

> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Jeff Waugh <jdub@perkypants.org> -----
> 
> GARNOME 0.19.5: "Intergalactic War"
> ===================================
> 

At the risk of hovering indecisively between weak ad-hominem and bad pun,
shouldn't that be the Intergalactic Waugh release?

J.
--
Jan Schmidt                                  thaytan@mad.scientist.com

ENOSIG


From carlos at laviola.org  Mon Dec 23 04:57:53 2002
From: carlos at laviola.org (Carlos Laviola)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] GARNOME 0.19.5: "Intergalactic War"
In-Reply-To: <20021223102129.GA19175@oven>
References: <20021222223107.GO12443@zork.net> <20021223102129.GA19175@oven>
Message-ID: <20021223125752.GA21478@laviola.org>

On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 09:21:29PM +1100, Jan Schmidt wrote:
> <quote who="Nick Moffitt">
> 
> > 
> > ----- Forwarded message from Jeff Waugh <jdub@perkypants.org> -----
> > 
> > GARNOME 0.19.5: "Intergalactic War"
> > ===================================
> > 
> 
> At the risk of hovering indecisively between weak ad-hominem and bad pun,
> shouldn't that be the Intergalactic Waugh release?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

-- 
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From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec 23 13:20:48 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Holiday sentiment
Message-ID: <20021223212048.GB12443@zork.net>

And a merry Shut Up to you all!

----- Forwarded message from "Josef S." <comradejosef@yahoo.com> -----

 
 "Chris Foulds <cfoulds@yahoo.co.uk>" <cfoulds@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Just want to say to everyone
> "Have a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year" and I hope all
> your tinycam dreams come true.

 

shut up



-- 
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From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec 24 11:09:45 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021224190945.GF12443@zork.net>

NO KEVINS

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CrackMonkey.



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From dep at linuxandmain.com  Tue Dec 24 12:18:56 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
In-Reply-To: <20021224190945.GF12443@zork.net>
References: <20021224190945.GF12443@zork.net>
Message-ID: <200212241518.56357.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Nick Moffitt's  quote:
| NO KEVINS
|
| ----- Forwarded message from mailman-owner@zork.net -----
|
| kevins@pac-software.com has been successfully subscribed to
| CrackMonkey.
|
|
|
| ----- End forwarded message -----

damn straight: fahrenheit only. maybe the occasional celsius.
-- 
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the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.


From nick at zork.net  Tue Dec 24 21:10:47 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Burn all GIFs with Iraqi incendiaries
Message-ID: <20021225051047.GM12443@zork.net>

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1553626.php
> Who sold weapons to Iraq? The US stole the report and tried to
> whitewash these names out, but they were leaked and published in a
> German newspaper. Enjoy.
[...]
> Unisys 
> Blue Bell, Pennsylvania 19424 

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From nick at zork.net  Thu Dec 26 23:09:44 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021227070944.GD30256@zork.net>

New SeaLand Wave Communists!

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From nick at zork.net  Thu Dec 26 23:19:26 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] se.fan.rick-moen
Message-ID: <20021227071926.GE30256@zork.net>

----- Forwarded message from LiquorPig <liquor.pig@pigdog.org> -----

Rick Moen was interviewed recently, and a link to the interview is
Slashdot's top story at the moment.

As I write this, hundreds of bored geeks are falling over themselves
to make fun of him:

http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/27/0214238.shtml?tid=106

I'm glad I'm not famous.

-LiquorPig

_______________________________________________
pigdog mailing list
pigdog@pighaven.org
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From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Fri Dec 27 10:24:49 2002
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] se.fan.rick-moen
In-Reply-To: <20021227071926.GE30256@zork.net>
References: <20021227071926.GE30256@zork.net>
Message-ID: <1041013489.3e0c9af170b0c@webmail.spamcop.net>

Quoting Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net>:

> pigdog mailing list

pigdog. Ew....ick...

Suddenly I want to get really clean all over.

-- 
Bob Bernstein                  I would have a man's wit rather like a
at                             fountain, that feeds itself invisibly, 
Esmond, Rhode Island           than a river, that is supplied by several
USA                            streams from abroad.          (Swift)


From carton at Ivy.NET  Fri Dec 27 10:52:28 2002
From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] se.fan.rick-moen
In-Reply-To: <20021227071926.GE30256@zork.net>
 (Nick Moffitt's message of "Thu, 26 Dec 2002 23:19:26 -0800")
References: <20021227071926.GE30256@zork.net>
Message-ID: <oqfzsjnvkj.fsf@balthasar.nat>

>>>>> "mm" == Nick Moffitt <nick@zork.net> writes:

    mm> http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/27/0214238.shtml?tid=106
        http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/12/26/1040511127721.html

nicely done. especially for a chartered accountant.

-- 
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commander, will rise up to mete out determined and merciless
punishment to the US imperialist aggressors
		-- Defence Minister Kim Il-chol


From rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us  Fri Dec 27 14:37:24 2002
From: rs at bernstein.providence.ri.us (Bob Bernstein)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Fool's Paradise
Message-ID: <1041028644.3e0cd6244b138@webmail.spamcop.net>

From nick at zork.net  Sat Dec 28 11:24:08 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey unsubscribe notification]
Message-ID: <20021228192408.GA8197@zork.net>

Useless dross.

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From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec 29 00:29:27 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [rescuemuni-announce] Happy Birthday, Muni!
Message-ID: <20021229082927.GB2609@zork.net>

BORING TRANSIT GARGARGAR follows!

----- Forwarded message from Andrew Sullivan <andrew@sulli.org> -----

Dear Rescue Muni Member:

Today is Muni's 90th anniversary!  On December 28, 1912, the San
Francisco Municipal Railway began service on the A and B lines, which
ran on Geary.  (Rescue Muni is currently recommending the restoration
of the Geary streetcar line.)

For more information on Muni's history, read:

http://sfmuni.com/aboutmun/geninfo.htm#history

Also - don't forget, FREE MUNI RIDES this New Year's Eve.  Don't drink
and drive - take transit instead!  See sfmuni.com for details.

Thanks,
Andrew Sullivan
Chair, Rescue Muni

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From nick at zork.net  Sun Dec 29 21:34:55 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] How Harpo Marx ran top secret documents past Josef Stalin
Message-ID: <20021230053455.GC28079@zork.net>

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5726824%255E401,00.html
> Although Harpo went on to entertain US troops during the Korean
> war, his family believes he felt his spying days were behind him. 

	Genius!

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From dmarti at zgp.org  Mon Dec 30 00:28:01 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] transit news
Message-ID: <20021230082801.GA29190@zgp.org>

December 28, 2002 -- A Queens man busted 16 times for impersonating
a subway motorman has been arrested again - and said he won't
give up his masquerade until the Transit Authority hires him,
cops said yesterday.

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/27681.htm

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dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From dep at linuxandmain.com  Mon Dec 30 03:49:21 2002
From: dep at linuxandmain.com (dep)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:49 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] transit news
In-Reply-To: <20021230082801.GA29190@zgp.org>
References: <20021230082801.GA29190@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <200212300649.21878.dep@linuxandmain.com>

begin  Don Marti's  quote:
| December 28, 2002 -- A Queens man busted 16 times for impersonating
| a subway motorman has been arrested again - and said he won't
| give up his masquerade until the Transit Authority hires him,
| cops said yesterday.
|
| http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/27681.htm

a manifestly clear case of unfair discrimination, in that the t.a. 
currently employs hundreds and hundreds of people who impersonate 
subway motormen.
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From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec 30 21:10:48 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] [mailman-owner@zork.net: CrackMonkey subscription notification]
Message-ID: <20021231051048.GT28079@zork.net>

Well if it isn't Dr. Geddyn himself.

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From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec 30 22:21:22 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] LNX-BBC needs testing!
Message-ID: <20021231062122.GY28079@zork.net>

http://advogato.org/article/602.html

Tell all your friends!

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From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec 30 22:27:19 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] SuperStarlet AD
Message-ID: <20021231062718.GZ28079@zork.net>

http://www.bigbroad.com/Superstarlet/Superstarlet.html
> Superstarlet A.D. is a feature length romp packed with the sex and
> violence of a soap-bath opera. It picks up early in the
> post-apocalyptic next millenia in the lost city of Femphis, where
> the world has returned to the order of nature. All men have
> de-evolved into deadly Neanderthals,  whereas womankind has gained a
> chromosome - all women are physically beautiful, but wear only
> vintage undergarments (other clothes not having withstood the
> disaster). All gay men are dead and there are no gay cavemen so it
> will take millions of years for the clothing industry to evolve. 

Just in time for Armand to subscribe, too.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From nick at zork.net  Mon Dec 30 23:34:44 2002
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Quite the offer
Message-ID: <20021231073444.GC28079@zork.net>

http://douglas.min.net/ha-ha-vibrator.png

Hurry!  60 minutes!

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From unknown at panax.com  Tue Dec 31 00:48:49 2002
From: unknown at panax.com (Patrick McFarland)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] Can Rob Levin actually get a life?
Message-ID: <20021231084849.GA891@panax.com>

Seriously, is it actually possible for lilo to get a life? I think it may be
possible, if he gets his head out of his ass, and quits with the *sighgrin*
shit. 

He also may be able to get a life if he quits cheating on his wife, with
MysticOne, or having those threesomes with him and Chip, or that anime chick
oper whos really a guy.

</rant>

-- 
Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd 
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989


From vipvop-cm at musesick.org  Tue Dec 31 10:08:35 2002
From: vipvop-cm at musesick.org (MC MeatFlaps)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
Message-ID: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>

http://www.tuckermax.com/Tardblog/tardblog.html

A web log written by a special ed teacher (supposedly). I'm not sure
if it's real or not, but it's damn funny either way.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec 31 10:25:13 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
Message-ID: <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net>

begin  MC MeatFlaps  quotation:
> http://www.tuckermax.com/Tardblog/tardblog.html
> 
> A web log written by a special ed teacher (supposedly). I'm not sure
> if it's real or not, but it's damn funny either way.

	THat's not a web log; it's a diary.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From vipvop-cm at musesick.org  Tue Dec 31 11:02:14 2002
From: vipvop-cm at musesick.org (MC MeatFlaps)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>

On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 10:25:13AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
> begin  MC MeatFlaps  quotation:
> > http://www.tuckermax.com/Tardblog/tardblog.html
> > 
> > A web log written by a special ed teacher (supposedly). I'm not sure
> > if it's real or not, but it's damn funny either way.
> 
> 	THat's not a web log; it's a diary.

Is there a difference?


From montaigne at att.net  Tue Dec 31 10:55:10 2002
From: montaigne at att.net (Michel de Montaigne)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021231185510.GA17845@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 10:25:13AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:

> 	THat's not a web log; it's a diary.

Is that truly significant? Hasn't it been determined that blogs are
_extremely_ uncrackmonkey? 

-- 
montaigne


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec 31 11:07:16 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
Message-ID: <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net>

begin  MC MeatFlaps  quotation:
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 10:25:13AM -0800, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
> > 	THat's not a web log; it's a diary.
> 
> Is there a difference?

	A Web log is like the old public bookmark files on the
exturnet.  It's a collection of links with commentary.  A diary is
just writing about your day, your life, your experiences.  

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From pgl at yoyo.org  Tue Dec 31 11:17:24 2002
From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org>

Happy New Year!

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
                                                   -- Nick Moffitt


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec 31 11:22:18 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org>
Message-ID: <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net>

begin  Peter Lowe  quotation:
> Happy New Year!

	And happy mailman day.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From dmarti at zgp.org  Tue Dec 31 11:28:19 2002
From: dmarti at zgp.org (Don Marti)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021231192819.GE21194@zgp.org>

begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:07:16AM -0800:

> 	A Web log is like the old public bookmark files on the
> exturnet.  It's a collection of links with commentary.  A diary is
> just writing about your day, your life, your experiences.  

And if you spend the whole day dicking around on the Web, what's
the difference?

-- 
Don Marti                  Even if we don't get DMCA reform, loudly
http://zgp.org/~dmarti     demanding DMCA reform is going to get the
dmarti@zgp.org             injustice of the DMCA in front of the next
KG6INA                     jury.  Make noise.  It counts.


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec 31 11:32:31 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231192819.GE21194@zgp.org>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231192819.GE21194@zgp.org>
Message-ID: <20021231193231.GJ11839@zork.net>

begin  Don Marti Lives Three Hours from Nowhere  quotation:
> begin Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco quotation of Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:07:16AM -0800:
> > 	A Web log is like the old public bookmark files on the
> > exturnet.  It's a collection of links with commentary.  A diary is
> > just writing about your day, your life, your experiences.  
> 
> And if you spend the whole day dicking around on the Web, what's
> the difference?

	Web logs can indeed be autobiographical or diary-like.  But a
diary isn't a "Web log", "weblog", or "blog" unless it has links to
external sites.  And no, that phony link in the "tard" diary doesn't
count.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From jv at zork.net  Tue Dec 31 12:30:31 2002
From: jv at zork.net (Juggler Vain)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: Irving's Cold Dead Links (Was: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog)
In-Reply-To: <20021231193231.GJ11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231192819.GE21194@zgp.org> <20021231193231.GJ11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20021231203031.GF10506@zork.net>

Served with Beyond-Sour 'kraut & moldy-gray mustard on a Bomb-Shelter 
brand bun.  -jv... ?what, sure I'm hungry, ?why do you ask



From mr.bad at pigdog.org  Tue Dec 31 18:20:23 2002
From: mr.bad at pigdog.org (Mister Bad)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231193231.GJ11839@zork.net> (Monkey Master and Prince
 Regent of San Francisco's message of "Tue, 31 Dec 2002 11:32:31 -0800")
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
	<20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net>
	<20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net>
	<20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231192819.GE21194@zgp.org>
	<20021231193231.GJ11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <87r8bxk3vc.fsf@pigdog.org>

>>>>> "MMaPRoSF" == Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster@crackmonkey.org> writes:

    MMaPRoSF> 	Web logs can indeed be autobiographical or diary-like.
    MMaPRoSF> But a diary isn't a "Web log", "weblog", or "blog"
    MMaPRoSF> unless it has links to external sites.  And no, that
    MMaPRoSF> phony link in the "tard" diary doesn't count.

You know, it's fairly obvious that all this close parsing is just you
trying to wiggle your way out of being a BLOGGER.

Which you are! BLOGGER! BLOGGER! BLOGGER!

~Mr. Bad

-- 
X-Email:  mr.bad@pigdog.org
X-Jabber: MisterBad@pighaven.org 
X-Pigdog-Journal: http://www.pigdog.org/
X-Quote: "I may not have class, but I have style." -- Miss Conduct



From pgl at yoyo.org  Tue Dec 31 19:00:07 2002
From: pgl at yoyo.org (Peter Lowe)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org> <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org>

On Dec 31, Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco wrote:
> begin  Peter Lowe  quotation:
> > Happy New Year!
> 
> 	And happy mailman day.

hahaha! this drink stuff is GREAT! HAPPY NEWWWWWWWWWWW
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
                                                   -- Nick Moffitt


From jeremym at loonix.org  Tue Dec 31 20:10:29 2002
From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org> <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net> <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org>
Message-ID: <20030101041029.GA27646@pug.chroot.net>

On Wed Jan 01, 2003 at 03:00:07AM +0000, Peter Lowe wrote:
> hahaha! this drink stuff is GREAT! HAPPY NEWWWWWWWWWWW
> YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking lightweights.

-- 
Jeremy McLeod
jeremym@loonix.org


From thaytan at bigpond.net.au  Tue Dec 31 20:18:54 2002
From: thaytan at bigpond.net.au (Jan Schmidt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20030101041029.GA27646@pug.chroot.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org> <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net> <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org> <20030101041029.GA27646@pug.chroot.net>
Message-ID: <20030101041854.GD11745@oven>

<quote who="Jeremy McLeod">
> On Wed Jan 01, 2003 at 03:00:07AM +0000, Peter Lowe wrote:
> > hahaha! this drink stuff is GREAT! HAPPY NEWWWWWWWWWWW
> > YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Fucking lightweights.
> 

On New Years Eve? When they're drunk? You opportunist bastard.

--
Jan Schmidt                                  thaytan@mad.scientist.com

"Don't Panic" -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy


From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org  Tue Dec 31 20:21:06 2002
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20030101041854.GD11745@oven>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org> <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net> <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org> <20030101041029.GA27646@pug.chroot.net> <20030101041854.GD11745@oven>
Message-ID: <20030101042106.GS11839@zork.net>

begin  Jan Schmidt  quotation:
> On New Years Eve? When they're drunk? You opportunist bastard.
> 
> --
> Jan Schmidt                                  thaytan@mad.scientist.com
> 
> "Don't Panic" -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

	You have three hours and thirty-nine minutes to fix your
goddamn signature delimiter.

-- 
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?


From jdub at perkypants.org  Tue Dec 31 20:28:36 2002
From: jdub at perkypants.org (Jeff Waugh)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20030101042106.GS11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org> <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net> <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org> <20030101041029.GA27646@pug.chroot.net> <20030101041854.GD11745@oven> <20030101042106.GS11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030101042836.GD1690@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>

<quote who="Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco">

> 	You have three hours and thirty-nine minutes to fix your
> goddamn signature delimiter.

Yo' momma wears desert boots.

  :0 fBw
  * ^--$
  | $SED -e 's/^--$/-- /'

- Jeff

-- 
    "... Of course, compared with Holly Valance, who has beams of light     
     shooting from her nipples, it all seems rather quaint now." - Rove     
                       McManus on Olivia Newton-John                        


From jeremym at loonix.org  Tue Dec 31 20:31:20 2002
From: jeremym at loonix.org (Jeremy McLeod)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20030101042836.GD1690@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
References: <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org> <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net> <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org> <20030101041029.GA27646@pug.chroot.net> <20030101041854.GD11745@oven> <20030101042106.GS11839@zork.net> <20030101042836.GD1690@lazarus.home.spankyhouse.net>
Message-ID: <20030101043120.GB27646@pug.chroot.net>

On Wed Jan 01, 2003 at 03:28:36PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
>   :0 fBw
>   * ^--$
>   | $SED -e 's/^--$/-- /'

So what's this mutt config option to chop out the sig during replies?

-- 
Jeremy McLeod
jeremym@loonix.org


From thaytan at bigpond.net.au  Tue Dec 31 20:33:27 2002
From: thaytan at bigpond.net.au (Jan Schmidt)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:57:50 2005
Subject: [!CrackMonkey!] tard blog
In-Reply-To: <20030101042106.GS11839@zork.net>
References: <20021231180835.GA8445@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231182513.GC11839@zork.net> <20021231190214.GA8715@gregh.ilan.cogent.net> <20021231190716.GG11839@zork.net> <20021231191724.GA16230@yoyo.org> <20021231192218.GI11839@zork.net> <20030101030007.GA23297@yoyo.org> <20030101041029.GA27646@pug.chroot.net> <20030101041854.GD11745@oven> <20030101042106.GS11839@zork.net>
Message-ID: <20030101043327.GG11745@oven>

<quote who="Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco">

> begin  Jan Schmidt  quotation:
> > --
> > Jan Schmidt                                  thaytan@mad.scientist.com
> > 
> > "Don't Panic" -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
> 
> 	You have three hours and thirty-nine minutes to fix your
> goddamn signature delimiter.

I blame jdub and his stupid procmail rule for me never having noticed that
:)

On with the hangover!

-- 
Jan Schmidt                                  thaytan@mad.scientist.com

"Karaoke bars combine two of the nation's greatest evils:
people who shouldn't drink with people who shouldn't sing."
 -Tom Dreesen