[CrackMonkey] [gkm@petting-zoo.net: How not to win a war.]

Nick Moffitt nick at zork.net
Wed Nov 14 13:53:57 PST 2001


----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm at petting-zoo.net> -----
Forwarded-by: Nev Dull <nev at sleepycat.com>
Forwarded-by: "cshl" <cshl at computer.org>

LBJ:    All right. We'll just go with it.... My answer [on whether to
	send the Marines] is yes. But my judgment is no. When are you
	going to issue the order?

McNamara:
	We'll make it late today so it will miss some of the morning
	editions...  I'll handle it in a way that will minimize the
	announcement. But there's going to be a lot of headlines on it
	when it comes out.

LBJ [chuckles darkly]:
	You're telling me!

	-- Lyndon Johnson to Robert McNamara, on whether to escalate
	to using ground troops in Vietnam, March 6, 1965.

	From a just released set of tapes transcribed and published
	in Newsweek, November 12, 2001, from the upcoming book "Reaching
	For Glory" by Michael Beschloss. It also includes LBJ stating
	that even as he was committing troops to war that "I don't see
	any way of winning."


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