[CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs
Paul J Collins
sneakums at eircom.net
Fri Aug 25 11:12:57 PDT 2000
>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Jennings <mej at valinux.com> writes:
Michael> On Friday, 25 August 2000, at 01:17:05 (+0100),
Michael> Paul J Collins wrote:
>> I'm not a zealot. I am someone who realises that "open source"
>> is a distraction, and a term that is more open to
>> misinterpretation that the supposedly confusing term "free
Michael> "Open Source" is not a distraction at all, and from a
Michael> business standpoint, it is vastly superior to the term
Michael> "free software." Note how acceptance of Open Source
Michael> software in the world of business has increased
Michael> drastically since the term was coined. This is at least
Whether businesses use free software or not is of no consequence to me.
Michael> due in part to an increased understanding by businesses
Michael> of how Open Source works, and *that* is due in part to
Michael> the term's coinage.
Michael> And don't even think of referring me to that
Michael> free-software-for-freedom page at gnu.org. I've read it
Michael> several times. It's mostly crap.
I disagree with that assessment.
Michael> Anyone who spends any time at all reading the OSD will
Michael> understand that it's really about preserving the freedom
Michael> of the user through open code and open development. It's
Michael> no accident that the Debian FSG and the OSD are nearly
As you said below, that's because the first version of the OSD is the
DFSG with a few edits.
>> That's why "open source" is so insidious. It is easy to write
>> a definition that encompasses anything you like.
Michael> They didn't write a definition in an attempt to encompass
Michael> something insidious. The OSD was refined from the DFSG.
I said the term itself is insidious, not what it encompasses.
Michael> If you're saying that the FSG is insidious, that's
Michael> another argument entirely.
Michael> The definition of "Open Source" comes directly from the
Michael> Debian definition of "Free Software," so when you insult
Michael> one, you insult the other. I find this amusing.
I don't have a problem with any "open source" that is free software.
I don't have a problem with the definition. It is the term and its
use that I object to.
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